
| DSH #2045 What if the stories dismissed as conspiracy theories are the ones people should question most? In this Digital Social Hour episode, Sean Kelly sits down with Maverick and DeVon from The Maverick Approach to discuss political power, assassination attempts, Hollywood influence, artificial intelligence, government surveillance, Neuralink, UFOs, cults, the Epstein files, and why they believe the public is being distracted from bigger questions. They explain how their podcast gained 100,000 subscribers in one month by challenging mainstream narratives and asking questions other shows avoid. The conversation moves from Key & Peele and alleged Hollywood handlers to elections, rising gas prices, disease outbreaks, AI privacy, gravity, Antarctica, and hidden technology. Later, they discuss Alex Jones, Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, brain chips, universal basic income, Scientology, religious extremism, interdimensional theories, congressional secrecy, and the idea that both political ...
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Davon
What's going on?
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Maverick
So you have three guys, three assassination attempts, and they're all on tv.
Host
What are the odds of that?
Maverick
What are the odds? Everything that we see when it comes to technology, all these technology companies are arms of the government. Then you move the goalpost and be like, well, let's put chips in everybody's brains. Don't you want to be smarter?
Davon
Don't you want to.
Maverick
This and that. And now we have chips in our brains. Now he's going to run ads.
Host
All right, guys, got Maverick and Davon back on the show. Six time on the show. These guys just keep going viral. Fastest growing podcast in the world right now. Congrats, fellas.
Maverick
Thank you.
Host
Appreciate it.
Davon
Thank you. Appreciate it, brother.
Host
Yeah, I think the first time you guys came on, you didn't even have a show yet. No, no, we didn't see this. Growth has been nuts.
Davon
Yeah.
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Davon
We've been doing it like barely a year. Almost a little bit under a year, too.
Maverick
Same. Yeah, we have 100k subs in one month.
Host
Nuts. So, yeah. You guys expect this takeoff, man.
Maverick
Not. Not this fast. You know, I mean, I've been doing content for about three years on Instagram.
Host
Yeah.
Maverick
But, you know, the YouTube is where, you know, the king's gold is at. It's hard to grow on there.
Host
Oh, yeah.
Maverick
So to see that growth on YouTube, you know, is.
Host
It's a blessing.
Davon
It was crazy. It's crazy.
Host
Yeah. Why do you think it's been hidden so hard for you guys?
Davon
People resonating with the truth, man, the people want the truth right now.
Host
Yeah.
Davon
You know, they're. They're tired of celebrities and their. And all the fakeness and.
Maverick
And all the truth. And all the media outlets are, you know, BS too. So I think. Yeah, like you said, just, it's. It's time for the truth.
Host
Yeah. You guys stay pretty objective, pretty factual on the show.
Davon
Right, man? Yeah, we just.
Maverick
Yeah, we don't try to paint a narrative. You know, we try to. We just. All we do is just ask questions. Questions. That's it. Just ask the right questions.
Davon
Question everything.
Host
That's it.
Maverick
So on the.
Host
Some guests like it, some don't.
Maverick
Exactly, exactly.
Host
We'll leave it at that. Yeah, but the latest thing you guys just talked about is the Key and Peele stuff, right?
Maverick
Yeah, man. Have you seen it?
Host
No.
Maverick
So it's crazy. Now, think about this Peel, great director. He went to the horror genre and whatnot. And obviously people know them from King Pill and then to, you know, an earlier degree, Mad tv. So since then, you haven't seen them work together. Why is that? So something just recently came out. A comedian. Her name is Akilah.
Davon
Akilah, Absolutely.
Sean Kelly
Or what's it called?
Maverick
Yeah, akilah, absolutely. On YouTube. She came out with a special and she worked with Key. And in short, she says the. The fact that Key and Peele don't work together anymore is because of Key's wife. Now, Peele just made a. Well, he made a movie about what? That was about eight years ago or so. Get out.
Host
Yeah.
Davon
Who's that about?
Maverick
That was about a white woman with a black guy. Keith's wife is white, he's black. And essentially it is a psychological thriller. If people don't know to wear. The wife takes over, you know, his mind and whatnot. The whole family wants his body and his mind. So she alludes to, oh, maybe that movie was actually about Key, because Key's career, you know, he has done well for himself, but they're saying that he could be a lot further along, which makes sense because, you know, Peele, he's killing it. He's box office, blockbusters, Oscars, all types of stuff. And his wife actually has inserted herself into Kee's career. They're saying that she's killing deals. That's what Akilah said. Akilah said, hey, I worked on a, you know, a show that we were going to get Greenlit back in 2020. Key's wife was involved and she wanted to have her 2 cents and input. Mind you, Key actually was already successful after the fact, so.
Davon
Mad tv.
Maverick
Mad tv, exactly.
Jimmy Conrad
Yeah.
Maverick
So then he meets his wife, she becomes a writer and director, and I've never heard of her. And she starts to kill deals.
Host
Damn.
Maverick
And Akilah said that when they were working on that show, they were trying to film the pilot. The wife put in her two cents. She. She thought she was a comedic genius, wanted to put in her two Cents. And then nobody paid her any mind. Then fast forward, you know, they're actually supposed to do the show. Then she wants to turn around and sues the network.
Davon
She calls the mouse. She sues the mouse because it was, you know, it was by the mouse. Yeah, yeah. D word. And. Yeah.
Maverick
So she wanted to sue them. And then it just. And then that. That at that time, it was around, I think she said, 2022, there was a strike going on. Everything was getting rocky in the whole industry, as you know, as you know it, with the writer strike and all that. So then she says, yeah, they ixnade the whole entire deal because of the wife.
Host
Jeez.
Maverick
So it makes sense. So if you look at get out, maybe that was kind of like some type of clue to say, hey, get away from your wife. Get out.
Host
Yeah.
Maverick
You know, get away from your wife. And she's killing all your deals. And even. Even the wife, Peel's wife called Akilah and said, hey, I wish I knew that you were actually working with her, because I would have warned you sooner.
Host
Wow.
Maverick
She said the fact that you're working with her, you're going to lose the deal. She cost key millions of dollars.
Davon
She gives me witch vibes.
Maverick
She does.
Davon
She gives me witch vibes. Have you ever seen her?
Host
No.
Davon
Okay, bro. Like, for one, she just has this. It's a look that she has. Like, it's. It's kind of like that.
Maverick
It's always soulless look.
Davon
Yeah.
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Maverick
She looks like a handler.
Host
There's a lot of those in Hollywood.
Maverick
A lot of those in Hollywood to where you think that's your significant other. Somebody's putting up to it, like, say, hey, watch over this person. Even Kanye talks about that all the time. Where his, you know, his Harley Passionate. His trainer. He said he was a handler.
Host
Yeah.
Maverick
So I think he may have a handler.
Host
It is weird how they never talk about each other. Yeah.
Davon
At all.
Host
Like, when you see their interviews, they never reference the other person.
Maverick
Exactly. Isn't that weird? They had a whole successful show. They were like brothers.
Davon
And then they should be like the Wayans brothers.
Carvana Customer
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Host
Oh, they had the most successful comedy show of all time.
Maverick
Yeah.
Davon
Literally.
Maverick
Yeah.
Host
Like, those YouTube skits are at hundreds of millions of views. Right.
Maverick
And then they just never work together. Never talked about each other ever again. So it's like, what really happened? And now we see. Yeah, it's kind of interesting. So I think handlers are still very prevalent in Hollywood.
Host
Yeah, still works. Because people don't suspect it.
Maverick
Right, right, Exactly.
Host
Because significant other I think people are starting to catch on to. But it'll be your trainer, it'll be a friend, it'll be a manager. Right. It'll be more discreet.
Maverick
Right. I mean, even, you know, to a further degree. Even in politics. There's probably handlers in politics, 100%.
Host
I'll say.
Maverick
Erica Kirk. You can say she might be a handler.
Host
Her videos have been weird lately.
Sean Kelly
Very weird.
Host
Did you see the one dressed in black?
Davon
She looked like Sonya Blade.
Maverick
Why is she dressed like that? Like she's about to go on a tactical hit? Yeah, I don't like that. Doesn't help her case at all.
Host
Doesn't humanize her.
Davon
No, at all.
Host
It makes it seem like there's an agenda.
Maverick
Yeah, she cried more at, you know, the last assassination attempt for Trump then we saw her for Charlie Kirk.
Host
Yeah. What do you guys think about the recent assassination attempt? Because that's the third one they're saying now, right?
Maverick
So here's the thing. So that's the third one, right? And they caught this guy named Cole Allen. He was actually staying in the hotel, okay. So this, that's how he got past the security and all these other things. So here's the thing. When, you know, when a president comes into town or does any kind of major event, they take a week before out to surveillance the entire area. Secret Security or Secret Service. They go all around, you know, who's staying at the hotel, you know, down the street, they do a whole, you know, unit to where they. They secure the entire block. So they don't know who this guy is. And so people were saying that it might be staged.
Davon
How does somebody run through security of that level of train security, Secret Service, and not get shot? Yeah, I'm just saying. I'm just like, where does that happen?
Maverick
Yeah, he doesn't get shot. And everybody's like, yeah, they're trying to figure out what's going on. So mind you, this guy, Cole Allen is the third guy, right? Now there's a trend happening. So if you look at the first guy, Thomas Matthew Crooks, he was on a BlackRock commercial. Ryan Routh, he was on Newsweek talking about, you know, mercenaries, gang mercenaries for Ukraine. Okay. This guy, Cole Allen, he was filmed a few years ago with abc. So you have three guys, three assassination attempts, and they're all on tv.
Host
What are the odds of that?
Maverick
What are the odds? Right? So three times is a trend. So I find that pretty interesting that each time they're, you know, the precursor is they're on tv. We have all this information about them. And you know, for one Thomas Matthew Crooks, nobody still doesn't know too much about him. He gets offed.
Davon
And that was the guy with the glasses? Yeah, yeah, he just disappeared on the
Jimmy Conrad
face of the earth.
Maverick
He disappeared. Then Ryan Rouse, he's on Newsweek. And now we have this guy with abc. And then mind you, that that ABC clip where he's. He was actually showing how he made some type of mechanism for wheelchairs and whatnot at that event. JD's. JD Vance's wife was a speaker too, which is weird.
Davon
Wait, what?
Maverick
At the same event? Yes. This is in 2027 or 2017. Sorry.
Host
Wow, that's crazy.
Maverick
Isn't that weird? Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. It's just like how all these instances lining up and then these things happen.
Davon
What do you think that read like? Why would they. What's the point for staging? Is it just to create more chaos? Just. Just to keep curating diversions from Epstein's files?
Maverick
Well, two things can be true. One, it's a distraction.
Sean Kelly
Right.
Maverick
Two, what year is it? 2026.
Davon
Right.
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Maverick
Buyer's remorse. Buy a new car.
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Maverick
Let's get started.
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Davon
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Maverick
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Maverick
See our seven day return policy@carvana.com okay, so every time you think about election time midterms, you have to galvanize. You have to really get the people going. You have to start pulling in who you want in office. Right. So all these things, you know, the last assassination attempt, that was right before Trump got in office.
Host
Yeah.
Maverick
So, you know, that helps push that.
Host
Who knows?
Maverick
Who knows, right?
Host
So do you think you guys are ever going to vote again? No, I don't think I'm ever going to vote.
Maverick
I'm ever going to.
Host
You're giving your power away.
Maverick
Yeah, it's a circus.
Host
I think it's like a spiritual thing, but also just like straight bs.
Maverick
Yeah.
Host
It doesn't really matter.
Maverick
It's two wings, same bird at this point and I think a lot of people are starting to see that. And the fact that, you know, Trump is doing a 180 now to where he said no new wars and this and that, and gas right now is
Host
five, six dollars, seven dollars in California, bro. I just paid 160 for my tank.
Maverick
That's crazy.
Host
Should not be like that.
Maverick
Yeah, they say in LA right now the average gas price is like 6, 7 bucks.
Host
Oh my. That's like 200 for a tank if you're using premium. Yeah.
Maverick
So it's crazy right now they just
Davon
intentionally being crashed though.
Maverick
This is a system crash. I mean, they just closed the straight of her muse again. So.
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Host
So it might hit 10 then.
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Maverick
JP Morgan is saying that they are actually projecting the national average price to be six bucks.
Host
Flying is going to be more expensive.
Maverick
That's why all these airlines are crashing.
Host
Spirit's done for.
Maverick
Spirit is done for.
Host
And I used to take Spirit to Burbank all the time. Yeah, it's like 80 bucks.
Maverick
Right.
Davon
And the thing like Spirit got a bad rap, but they never had any crashes.
Maverick
Yeah.
Host
In 33 years, first class on Spirit was not bad. Yeah. I'm gonna just, I'm gonna just say it like it's not bad at all.
Maverick
Right, right. And the fact that it had no fatal crashes, what does that say? That says yay. It may be a little rocky. People are making, making jokes about it, about the hard, you know, seats and whatnot, but they never had any fatal crashes in 34 years.
Host
Wow.
Maverick
Yeah. Well, actually 30. It almost made 30. 34 years.
Sean Kelly
It actually.
Maverick
33 years.
Davon
Oh, interesting.
Maverick
There's that number again. Right. So find out. Pretty interesting. I think the Spirit is dying in America and it dies at 33.
Host
Damn. Because usually the government bails them out, but not this time.
Maverick
And they blocked it. So Elizabeth Warren actually blocked that deal, that merger with Spirit and JetBlue.
Host
So people aren't going to be able to afford flying then.
Maverick
No. So that's 17,000 jobs loss.
Host
Oh my God.
Maverick
Yeah.
Davon
But you got to kind of tie it back into AI and everything that's happening, know, Elon. And they're all, they keep saying that the jobs are going to be gone. Like everybody's going to be UBI Universal Basic Income. Like that's, that's the thing. It's happening.
Host
I'm seeing more electric cars in Vegas every single day now. Self driving cars.
Maverick
Yeah, yeah. It's, it's a sign of the times, I think that with AI and kind of the economy where it's at, that's what they want. They want AI to completely be taken over. 15 minute cities. So everything is controlled in a bubble.
Davon
Did you guys hear about the, the trucks in Texas that drive like by themselves? There's like a shit ton of them,
Maverick
like fully 18 wheelers.
Davon
They put a bunch of them on the road and they're on the road now.
Host
No way.
Maverick
Yeah, they're fully autonomous.
Davon
That shit is, that's dangerous now here's
Maverick
the thing about that. So they just had some footage, speaking of airlines, to where a bakery truck got hit by a actual airliner landing. I think it's in Jersey.
Davon
In Jersey.
Maverick
Newark. Yeah, saw that. Yeah. So I think that was on purpose too, to show, hey, this is kind of dangerous. You know, maybe we shouldn't have truck drivers. And now we have the autonomous vehicles.
Host
Damn. Some truck drivers are next.
Maverick
Yeah. Oh yeah, for sure.
Host
That's crazy.
Davon
Yeah. You see, they're slowly chopping every way way everybody's jobs like.
Maverick
Sure.
Davon
One by one.
Host
And by 2027, all vehicles have to be AI integrated, right?
Sean Kelly
Correct.
Maverick
So a bill that was signed back in 2021 by Biden, the infrastructure investment bill, snuck in some language to where every vehicle by 2027 has to have AI system to see if you're actually, you know, not drunk or you know, impaired of some sort. To where it can gauge or make the decision for you. Say, hey, I don't think you should drive. You're too tired or you're too drunk. So you're having a system that is not human. Making human decisions.
Host
Crazy.
Davon
What does that sound like? What's that movie Mercy? It's always in the movies how they make decisions. AI is making decisions for us already.
Maverick
Yeah. So this is already done. This is not something that passed.
Davon
It already passed. Yeah, it's passed already.
Maverick
So any. That's why I said anything after 2026. I'm not buying any new cars.
Host
Hell no.
Davon
But then what do you do when that car gets old though? Eventually you're just gonna have to keep that like tip top shape cars might
Host
appreciate the older ones.
Davon
Oh yeah, for sure.
Maverick
This is why they did the Cash for clunkers deal back in 08 after the crash. So the Cash for Clunkers deal was a government program to where they wanted all the cars that were fuel efficient to, you know, giving them like, you know, a rebate of like three, four or five grand. And in turn, they were giving you less fuel efficient cars. But you know, they were, you know, safer for the road and better for the environment. Yeah, but they were really taking out all the fuel efficient cars to where now it's leading up to this, you know, they want all the old cars to go away. So that's that. That was at least a million cars off the road.
Host
Holy crap.
Maverick
Yeah. Through that program.
Host
Yes. Stock up on old cars, guys. Yeah, get like two or three. Should be enough for your lifetime.
Maverick
Exactly, exactly. So, yes, it's. It's crazy.
Host
Speaking of gas prices, cruises are going to go up, but also there was a cruise with some virus outbreak. Did you guys see that?
Maverick
I saw that. Yeah.
Host
Yeah.
Maverick
It was a Dutch cruise line to where the hantavirus, which is essentially come, comes from rodents and it's from, you know, rodent rat droppings. You know, they're, they're, I think even through their urine as well. So they're saying that hantavirus was not supposed to be airborne.
Host
It is.
Maverick
Now the CDC is starting to step in because this cruise line has hundreds of people on it. And I believe it was trying to dock in Cape Verde. And now they're saying that they had a few deaths. Now it's, you know, a complete, you know, it can go into a pandemic. So now they're saying the hantavirus. Fun fact. Hantavirus was actually the thing that killed Gene Hackman's wife. Huh. So you remember that whole thing, right? Remember Gene Hackman and his wife died?
Davon
Yeah.
Maverick
So his wife died from hantavirus. So that's kind of like a precursor because that's. Before that nobody's really heard of hantavirus. Right. So we see it in, you know, a celebrity. Right. First, then we see it on a cruise line. Oh, now it's happening to everyday people.
Carvana Customer
Right.
Maverick
This is the same thing that happened with COVID because the first person, the first celebrity that caught Covid was who? Tom Hanks. And then it went into the population. So. Oh my God, look at this person. They actually caught Covid. So now we're kind of seeing the same thing with hantavirus to where, you know, a couple, we had a couple of casualties on the ship to where I believe it was one or two people from Britain, some other people, so no Americans yet. But now they're saying like, oh, well, if people dock off, you know, they have to have, they have to be quarantined, whatnot, because to see the effects of hantavirus can last up to eight weeks before you have any symptoms.
Host
Eight week quarantine, that's crazy.
Comcast Business Announcer
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Maverick
So I don't know.
Host
But on steroids.
Maverick
Exactly. So it's kind of weird that we're kind of seeing this now.
Davon
Then the ticks, then we have the, the ticks that they've been leaving out.
Host
That stuff's been crazy. These dead animals that I'm seeing with thousands of ticks on them.
Maverick
Yeah.
Host
Big ticks.
Maverick
Big ticks. And they're saying that. I think Bill Gates is behind it. I'll say allegedly, but I think he's, he's always behind some like that.
Davon
Fuck Bill Gates.
Arsh Manning
Yeah.
Maverick
But if you look into the ticks, they're finding these boxes of ticks all around Texas, Nashville, certain places they're not native to.
Host
Yeah.
Maverick
And these ticks are giving people Alpha GAL syndrome, which is a condition to where you can't eat meat anymore.
Host
Damn.
Maverick
Yeah. And this, this, you know, condition to where if you're not eating red meat anymore, what else can you eat? Oh, synthetic meat. Who's making synthetic meat? Bill Gates. So, so yeah, it's a. It's a kind of its own little pandemic to where people are getting alpha gal syndrome right now. And these random ticks that people were finding boxes of ticks on, they're like, what's going on?
Host
Jeez.
Davon
Yeah, yeah.
Host
The synthetic meat stuff scares me.
Maverick
Yeah, it's kind of like Operation Mongoose. Have you heard of that?
Host
No.
Maverick
So Operation Mongoose is a precursor to this, what we're seeing now. Operation Mongoose is something that they did in Cuba to where they wanted to get Fidel Castro out of there. And where we got today, as we know as Lyme disease. Lyme disease actually started in Lyme, Connecticut. That's where they got the name from. So if you look in a plum island that's a, you know, a bioengineering weapons facility to where they bioengineered these ticks.
Arsh Manning
Wow.
Maverick
To give people Lyme disease. And they started showing up first in Lyme, Connecticut and then they dropped these ticks. Where do they wanted to get Fidel Castro out of there?
Host
It does seem like ticks and mosquitoes are a good way to transmit disease for sure. You know, you could just throw. Throw them everywhere.
Maverick
Exactly. So they call, they call it the poor man's nuke because you can get, you know, the people out of there, but not destroying all the. The crops and resources.
Host
That's nuts.
Maverick
Exactly.
Host
Have you guys found anything effective for ticks or is there anything people can put on their body or something?
Maverick
You know what, I haven't seen anything yet to where, you know, we have any. I'm pretty sure this type some type of repellent or something. But yeah, people gotta watch out for that for sure.
Sean Kelly
Man.
Host
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Davon
Oh, yeah.
Host
Because we grew up in Jersey, so there's a lot of ticks out there.
Arsh Manning
Oh.
Host
But when you look into it, it just, it's disheartening seeing that it was a man made disease.
Maverick
Yeah. Yeah. Did you see that guy who actually. His dog with a no in Australia.
Davon
He.
Maverick
His dog on Chat gbt.
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Maverick
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Wow.
Maverick
Oh, I heard his dog.
Host
That's crazy.
Arsh Manning
Yeah.
Host
You think they're going to start censoring
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Host
These AIs like the answers you get from them.
Maverick
I think they already started.
Davon
Yeah, they've started doing that.
Maverick
Yeah, I think they already have. I think that especially chat gbt if you use it for as a therapist or a lawyer, they can actually send that data to law enforcement.
Host
No way.
Maverick
Yeah.
Host
That's crazy.
Maverick
That's why I don't use chat GPT.
Host
You don't use that one.
Maverick
No.
Host
You trust any of the AIs right now?
Maverick
I trust Claude.
Host
Claude?
Maverick
Claude is good.
Host
Anthropic.
Maverick
Anthropic, yeah. So the government was using anthropic and they actually lost a current contract with the government because they were trying to use it to spy on the American public.
Host
Wow.
Maverick
So they said, no, we're not using our technology for that respect. Yeah. So I really like anthropic. And so they're, they say, seem like they're pretty on point.
Host
So I just found out in divorce court they can use your AI search history.
Davon
Really?
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Host
So guys are getting screwed right now as they're searching up how to hide their money, hide their assets.
Maverick
Oh, no.
Host
Pulling it up in court. And now they just revealed to the AI how much money they have.
Maverick
That's what I mean. Yeah. Anything tech wise, you have to be really careful because all the tech we're using is from darpa, which is arm of the government.
Host
Yeah.
Maverick
So anything were the phones and now AI. That's just a way to spy on us and get our data more.
Host
You guys think AI is Antichrist, it's a tool.
Maverick
But again, it's a double edged sword. So to bring in the Antichrist, you could do it through AI, because again, it's a tool. Right now if you look at cern, what they're doing with cern, they're opening up microscopic black holes, portals. So in order to, you know, do these types of things and use AI to synthesize, you know, it's a spectrum to where it can be used for good or bad. But I think that it can be used for something like that if it, I mean we have quantum computers now, you know, so the way they explain it, the head of Google AI quantum computing, states that their quantum computers right now, how he explains it goes into parallel universes, gets the answer that we don't have, you know, the solutions to of our problems right now and brings us solutions back to us.
Host
Wow.
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Maverick
That's what he said. That's how it works.
Davon
No, I'm serious. Like how, like they say, like they just say shit like this. But how?
Maverick
Well, they have quid bits. So there's something called quantum bits where they're using quantum bits for, you know, quantum computing.
Host
Yeah.
Maverick
So they have ones and zeros, which is, you know, you know, binary code. And then we have quid bits, which is quantum bits now for quantum computing. And that actually makes, in theory, I guess, how you said it, to use quantum computing, go into parallel universes.
Host
Holy Crap.
Maverick
All this kind of things.
Host
So that proves simulation theory, then.
Maverick
Oh, yeah, that. That's again, I think we are in a highly advanced supercomputer. The way things line up, you know, think about it, you know, the conspiracies or coincidences, these things mathematically can't happen. Right, right. Even going back to Cole Allen. If you think about Cole Allen, the guy who tried to assassinate Trump.
Sean Kelly
Yeah.
Maverick
His name was tweeted three years ago on an account on X.
Host
What the hell?
Maverick
One tweet. That's it.
Davon
Oh, yeah, yeah, the.
Host
Oh, the banner. Right.
Davon
The banner was frog. It was a frog, but it had a suit just like Trump.
Maverick
Yeah, yeah. And even in the banner that he used, it was like a colorful banner. It was from a screenshot from a website called Time Travel eu. Yeah.
Host
That proves time travel exists.
Maverick
They're alluding to it.
Host
Holy crap.
Maverick
Yeah. So how was that guy three years ago? His name was tweeted on this X account. And the X account was Henry Martinez. Right. And Henry Martinez was actually an employee of NASA. He worked with Lockheed Martin. And there's a document that came out related to NASA. Right. So at the same time that he was there, how was Cole Allen an intern at NASA?
Host
That's wild. I didn't know he was an intern.
Maverick
Yeah. So this person who tweeted this had a direct connection to Cole Allen. So kind of weird.
Host
I mean, when Tesla disappeared, they say he had the time travel documents taken, right?
Maverick
Exactly. And Donald Trump's uncle took the papers, Right? Took all his work.
Host
What are the odds of that?
Davon
All the scientists are missing, you know, besides the ones that showed up, you
Host
know, and a lot of them are looking into time travel, right?
Sean Kelly
Yeah.
Maverick
So anti gravity is a lot of what a lot of scientists were working on.
Host
And I know you don't believe in gravity, right?
Maverick
No, I don't think it's actually real. I think it's created.
Host
Yeah.
Maverick
Yeah.
Host
So there's fourth force in the.
Maverick
Yeah. So gravity is the weakest force of. Out of the four forces. It disappears when you go into low Earth orbit. It doesn't react the same way as the other forces. And then a graviton is what makes gravity possible. How come scientists have never seen a graviton ever? So any kind of other particles, when it comes to protons, electrons, neutrons, on a subatomic level, they can see that what makes those things actually work? You know, a proton and whatnot, with light, A graviton, in theory, exists, but they say they've never seen it, and they're still searching for it to this day.
Host
Wow.
Maverick
So how does gravity actually work? How does it exist?
Host
So do you think that's what's in Antarctica? Some sort of machine that's creating gravity?
Davon
Could be.
Maverick
If you look at Bob Lazar, he was talking about element 115 years ago, about two decades ago, and he said this is the element that makes anti gravity possible to where you can manipulate gravity. So if you can manipulate gravity, it's the weakest force. I think something or someone is using it to keep us here on the ground.
Host
I do think it's weird. They teach us about gravity so early, so young in school force and they like shove it down our throat. That's the one thing everyone remembers about science, right? Gravity.
Maverick
Gravity. Oh, it's got to be real, right? You know, this is how everything just stays on the ground. But how they never seen a graviton. Now we have element 115 which they say they didn't exist because Bob Laur said this back in the 80s. Then fast forward. Some scientists in Russia, they're like, oh yeah, just, just kidding. Element 115 actually exists.
Host
Wow.
Maverick
Yeah, they discovered that in like oh three.
Host
Holy crap.
Arsh Manning
Yeah.
Davon
Then he has the, the. I don't know if you've seen the Babar documentary.
Host
Not yet.
Davon
I've seen that.
Maverick
Amazing.
Davon
So there's mountains that he said there's a mountain that he worked under. It's literally in the middle. It's in Nevada actually, not far from here. And basically they said it wasn't real. And it turns out they went on Google Maps and he's like, he pointed out exactly where it was at and you literally see it.
Maverick
The outline.
Davon
The outline.
Host
No way.
Maverick
Yeah, because Google Earth got caught. They tried to like recolor grade it, but by doing that you all you have to do is remove the contrast and it shows the lines of the actual hangar.
Host
Yeah, I don't trust Google Earth. Yeah, it's a CIA operate, right?
Maverick
Yeah, for sure. Everything that we see when it comes to again, you know, technology, all these technology companies are arms of the government. You know, you have Lifelog was the precursor to Facebook. You have Oracle. You know, that was a CIA project with the same name with Larry Ellison. He was actually had a client which was the CIA and they're working on a project called Oracle. Fast forward, we have Oracle.
Host
I don't think you can have a big company in America without some sort of government involvement.
Maverick
Of course.
Host
You know what I mean?
Maverick
You get to a certain point and they're like, okay, you Have a lot of data, a lot of information on American public. You know, you're gonna come work for US World 100. That's how they work, you know, either that or you go missing like a scientist.
Host
Yeah, right. What are they on now? 16 of them.
Davon
Are we including the ones in China too?
Host
Oh, I didn't even know about that.
Davon
Yeah, there's like nine of them. Yeah, nine of them are missing there too.
Maverick
Oh, yeah, nine scientists.
Host
Yeah, it's a worldwide thing. It's on.
Davon
Oh, yeah. Well, I think it's a superpower thing. Those are the two superpowers of the world.
Maverick
Yeah. You know, I think China and America are the only entities that actually have this anti gravitic technology.
Host
Really?
Maverick
That's why we're. We have missing scientists over there too.
Host
Holy crap.
Davon
I wonder if they're missing or did they intentionally go missing.
Maverick
Well, yeah, yeah, some of them went missing. Some of them are dead. You know, three of them got hit, you know, in a car accident.
Host
I saw a plane crash. Took out two of them at.
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Maverick
And then a couple of. I think like two or three had a mysterious illness.
Host
Yeah, yeah.
Maverick
So another coincidence. I'll say.
Host
Just the recent one was Wilcox. That one spooked me. I texted you guys about that one. Yeah, this one does not sit right with me.
Maverick
Right, right. And he was a big UFO researcher. He was exposing a lot of things. He was saying that the American government is pretty much a satanic culture. A lot of different things he was saying. And wasn't he close with.
Davon
Was he close with some scientists?
Maverick
A lot of them, yeah, I think so, actually. And then. Yeah, then you can add him to the list and whatnot. And it's weird because we're. We're seeing that the government wants to do disclosure.
Host
Yeah, right.
Maverick
So now we have all these scientists missing and dead. And, you know, now we have Wilcock, that.
Host
And Wilcock was working on Mach 4. I don't know if you guys saw that. Yeah, yeah, no one's achieved that yet. And he said he was close.
Sean Kelly
Dude.
Maverick
There you go. There you go. So I, I don't think anything's a coincidence when it comes to that.
Davon
I think the most dangerous job in America is being a scientist.
Maverick
At this point.
Host
At this point.
Maverick
UFO researcher.
Host
There's a meme if you're on a flight with someone and they say they have the free energy.
Davon
Oh, no, I saw that.
Host
You saw this.
Maverick
All that was hydrogen car.
Host
And you're sitting right.
Davon
I made the hydrogen car. And then the government said they'll Fly me out, man.
Host
I know everyone's called Alex Jones crazy for not flying, but he's looking like he was, right.
Davon
Yeah.
Host
Drives everywhere.
Maverick
He does, you know.
Host
Blame him.
Davon
Yeah. Blame him at all.
Maverick
Yeah. We just went to the Infowars facility and man, it was amazing to see that whole.
Host
He's og and they just shut down last week.
Davon
Yeah, they did. Yeah.
Maverick
We were one of the last people to film there.
Host
Wow.
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Davon
I'll be moving in.
Maverick
Let's get started.
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So there's no.
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I guess I'll let myself out.
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See, our seven day return policy at
Host
Carvana fair is a scary thing.
Maverick
Yeah. So they hit him with that lawsuit. I've never seen a billion dollar lawsuit.
Host
Billion dollar judgment.
Maverick
Yeah.
Host
Not even lost. Like settled.
Maverick
Settled.
Davon
Yeah.
Host
Owes a billion dollars.
Maverick
Yeah. So, yeah, Infowars is in limbo. That actual building. But then he started the Alex Jones network, so.
Host
Oh, gee, man. He kind of was. He a big inspiration for y' all because your shows are kind of similar, right?
Davon
Oh, I mean, yeah, for sure, man. He's like, he's. He's the Michael Jordan of it. You know, he. He was one of the. The first.
Host
Yeah. He's, you know, him and Rogan, I feel like early, Early Rogan, Early Al Rogan.
Sean Kelly
I don't know.
Maverick
Oh, you don't like Rogan now?
Host
No, I like him a little bit. But he signed some big contracts.
Davon
Yeah.
Host
And he doesn't have on the same edgy guests as he used to.
Maverick
Gotcha.
Host
You notice that?
Maverick
Yeah, I want to talk to Rogan. I want to talk to him, man.
Davon
I've talked to. I've talked to somebody pretty close to him.
Host
Oh, yeah?
Jimmy Conrad
Yeah.
Maverick
We went out to Nashville and you know, hung out with some of his like his good friends interviewed at play.
Host
He's the go. No doubt.
Maverick
Yeah.
Host
But I feel like, like we said earlier, once you make so much money, you have so much power.
Davon
Certain level.
Host
Certain level. Are you still independent at that level? Right. I'm curious.
Maverick
Yeah, I'm curious too. I want to talk to him for sure.
Host
Yeah.
Davon
So Rogan, when it comes to. Down with these.
Host
Let's talk about Walmart. So they announced digital price tags, right?
Maverick
Yeah, yeah. It's crazy because again, I think it all goes into the agenda 20, 30 plan. 15 minute cities. Now we have digital price tags where they can change the price of an item at the drop of a hat due to demand.
Host
Right.
Maverick
So you can buy a loaf of bread, it can double in price by the time you're done shopping. So I don't think that's sustainable. I think that goes into carbon credits. What's happening now in the uk, your carbon footprint is an issue. How they say is an issue. Now you can only buy so much cheese. Only Buy so much milk. So because your carbon credits is eating up, you know, your carbon emissions and it's causing, you know, greenhouse gases and whatnot. So they say. So I think that all that goes into the digital price tags. So what that's going to do is drive up demand. It is going to price a lot of people out and you only like it's going to be has and have nots at that point. That's why they're doing it. The 15 minute cities, the digital price tags, it's all one big plan to where they want to control everything and you own nothing and be happy.
Davon
Do we hear the shit that we're talking about? Like, this shit sounds like Black Mirror. Like literally all this. If you would have told me this shit five years ago, I would have. I wouldn't have believed you.
Host
You're crazy.
Maverick
All this stuff that we're seeing has always been in the movies. Five, ten years ago.
Davon
We always say.
Maverick
And then it happens.
Davon
It's always in the movies.
Host
They got to give you the heads up. Right. They give you the karmic law.
Maverick
Exactly. So they show you before they do it, karmic debt, you know, karmic retribution.
Host
You know, Black Mirror always felt so real to me. Like, in the back of my head, I'm always like, this is probably going to happen.
Maverick
Yeah, Yeah.
Host
I mean.
Maverick
I mean, there's so many episodes I can think of that happen. The one with streamberry, right? That one Cyrus one? No, that was the one where their quantum computer was recreating this lady's life because she sold her likeness.
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Sean Kelly
Yeah.
Davon
And that's just.
Maverick
So she goes home that night and sees her entire life on streamberry, which is like their version of Netflix. And she's like, what the hell is this? I didn't even do that today. And it was the quantum computer that took her likeness and recreated a show.
Host
Nuts.
Maverick
Yeah.
Host
And that's gonna happen with dead celebrities?
Jimmy Conrad
Yeah.
Host
They're gonna clone.
Davon
Oh, yeah. They already sold all their likeness. I mean, a lot of them have.
Maverick
Yeah.
Davon
Sold it early on. Yeah.
Maverick
Tom Brady, Kylie Jenner, all of them. They actually did it.
Host
Justin Bieber.
Sean Kelly
Right?
Maverick
Justin Bieber, Yeah.
Host
I feel like they'll do Morgan Freeman's voice or whatever.
Maverick
Right?
Jimmy Conrad
You know?
Maverick
Yeah. So that's. That's IP to where, you know, if they're dead and gone, you know, they're still monetizing.
Host
The one I remember is the one where they cloned the dead person because the woman lost her husband. Oh. And then he left him. And then he started Acting up.
Carvana Customer
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Davon
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I do, right?
Carvana Customer
Yeah.
Host
Creepy, bro.
Davon
Yeah. That felt real, man.
Host
Yeah. Cloning.
Maverick
Yeah. I don't know if I've seen that one.
Davon
You didn't see that one?
Maverick
I don't know.
Host
I stopped watching because it just felt so real, bro.
Maverick
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Davon
Then the one with the. You remember the. The lady had the illness.
Host
Illness.
Davon
Remember she was sick and she had
Host
to get a brain chip.
Davon
Yeah, she could get a brain chip. And then they start running ads in the brain chip.
Host
And then. She couldn't afford it, Right?
Davon
She couldn't afford it. And they didn't tell her that. They were like, well, you got to upgrade. You got to upgrade because every time she go out of a certain mile radius.
Host
Neural link.
Davon
Neuralink.
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Maverick
I was going to say that.
Davon
And they mass produce that shit. Yeah, I think this year. No, didn't they mass production?
Maverick
They did. So what they're doing is they're. They're rolling it out as something good, something that helps humanity, you know, Quadric, prolegics, they can't, you know, walk. They can't do anything with their hands
Davon
or seem like an asshole if you're like, oh, yeah, well, fuck that. They want to. They want to walk. Fuck that. Like, yeah.
Maverick
So that's how you target, you know, certain. A certain demographic to seem like a humanitarian. Right, Right. Oh, looks. It's great. Then you move the goalpost and be like, well, let's put chips in everybody's brains. Don't you want to be smarter? Don't you want to. This and that. And now we have chips in our brains. Now he's going to run ads. He takes you to a planet like Mars, to where there's no laws, so you have chips in your brains. He has his Optimus robot building civilization because that's what he wants. First to send Optimus first, like, to Mars to build a civilization. Then we go there with chips in our brains.
Host
Crazy.
Maverick
Come on, now.
Host
I'm not getting an Optimus.
Maverick
No, I'm good.
Host
I got rid of my alexa. I got rid of my ring interest. Technology, man. Yeah. It's always listening to you, for sure. Even your computer and tv, it's like, Jesus.
Maverick
Yeah. I mean, that's. Why is there a patent on your tv, to where they can control you through frequencies.
Host
Yeah. Like, I feel like privacy, we don't have anymore.
Maverick
No, that's gone. That's an illusion. I think that's gonna, you know, continue to disappear. And what is happening is that our compliance, our privacy is going to be traded for comfortability. Right. It's going to be traded for, you know, how easy and how accessible things are.
Davon
Ubi.
Host
Yeah, for sure. I think UBI is coming.
Maverick
Yeah.
Davon
Oh, it's always here.
Host
AI is taking too many jobs.
Davon
Yep.
Host
The average person screwed.
Maverick
Yeah. The average person. I mean, for one. There, there. I mean, we see that a lot of jobs, you know, cut. But a lot of the average American isn't just tech savvy at all. So going into these sectors with AI, blockchain, crypto, they can't compete. They can't compete. The learning curve is too high. And, you know, if you have a robot that works 24, 7, 365, how can you compete?
Host
Good luck.
Davon
Idiocracy. Seen Idiocracy?
Host
That's a good one. That's what we're headed to, is that one.
Davon
Yeah.
Host
They've already shown the IQs dropping.
Davon
Yeah.
Host
Usage. There's a direct correlation.
Davon
Oh, yeah.
Maverick
Yeah.
Davon
And it's. It's only. It's only worse. I mean, because you got a whole generation growing up on it.
Host
Yeah. So we're getting dumber. And the school system doesn't teach critical thinking.
Maverick
Right.
Host
So by the next generation, I wonder if they'll have their own thoughts.
Maverick
Yeah. 50, 56%. Almost 60% of Americans read below the ninth grade level.
Host
Holy crap.
Maverick
Yeah.
Host
That's wild.
Maverick
Yeah.
Davon
On the flip side, you know, they say ignorance is bliss.
Host
So it's like the dumbest people are the happiest.
Davon
That's what I'm saying. So. So people may appear to be more
Maverick
happy, so they're trading that for convenience. That's what people want. They want.
Davon
It's psychological as fuck.
Host
Some people get too deep in the rabbit hole and they're not happy people.
Davon
Now that, that too. That.
Host
There's both sides of it.
Davon
Yeah.
Maverick
Right.
Host
You got to find your balance, find your peace.
Maverick
Yeah. That's why I tell people to reskill. That's the main thing is reskill, because we're going into a sector, the greatest wealth transfer is upon us because it happens every 25, 35 years to where, you know, the Silent generation and the boomers are trading $100 trillion to Gen X and millennials and Gen Z. That's what's happening right now.
Host
Right.
Maverick
So if you're reskilling and getting your, your, your position to where these new technologies. I've seen one guy build an entire tech company by himself with AI and sold it.
Host
Damn.
Maverick
So that's what's happening right now.
Host
Yeah.
Davon
What about the guy that had the Vending machines. He built a vending machine that makes its own commercials.
Maverick
Yeah.
Davon
Like, literally runs its own commercials and has its own bank account.
Maverick
Wow.
Davon
Yeah.
Sean Kelly
Yeah.
Maverick
So this guy built a vending machine business for an AI agent, and the AI agent was made with open claw. And what happened was the AI agent set parameters to not only create its own commercials, but set the, you know, the marketing plan, the price of the items. Has a bank account, and she has her own bank account. She can spend whatever however she wants. And the AI agent, it was just a project that this guy was doing, but just to show how powerful AI agents are. So. Yeah, so I think that's the future. Yeah.
Host
Have you guys looked into Scientology yet?
Maverick
I have. I have.
Davon
Shout out to the Scientology run all the kids.
Maverick
It's crazy.
Davon
Yeah, they're. They're. They're.
Host
Some of them get deep in there.
Davon
Yeah, yeah.
Jimmy Conrad
Keep.
Host
Keep doing it.
Davon
Yeah, Keep. Keep that going. Keep that going. Yeah. Scientology, that's something I think that I can get behind, like, with the kids.
Host
I've been at that building.
Davon
Which one?
Host
The one they're in.
Davon
Oh, yeah, In Hollywood.
Host
Yeah, the one in Hollywood.
Davon
Oh, the blue one.
Host
Yeah. I didn't even know what Scientology was when I was there.
Maverick
Oh, yeah.
Host
So they were giving me a whole tour about it. I was like, this is cool. I like science.
Davon
So they try.
Maverick
They go like, science.
Davon
They try to. They try to recruit my mom.
Host
Oh, really?
Davon
Yeah.
Host
Damn.
Davon
So, yeah, they tried to recruit me. Yeah. So she. She had a job interview, like, next door.
Host
No way.
Davon
And she walked in there by accident, and they're like, oh, come in. Anyway, we'll show. She's like, oh, these people are nice. You know, My mom is like.
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Davon
She's. She doesn't know the fuck Scientology is. This was maybe like 2010. And she goes in there and she's like, okay, this is weird. You want me to hold this little thing and do this? You know? So she does all of this audit. The audit. Right. So then when she. When she leave or when she's about to leave, they're like, okay, well, you know, do you have kids? She's like, yeah. Like, were they entertainment? Oh, we can help. You guys can live here. We'll give you a car. We'll give you this, we'll give you that.
Host
What?
Davon
Everything. A car they offered.
Maverick
Oh, yeah, everything. They're like, move out. They're like, out. Move in. Yeah.
Host
How do they make money, then?
Maverick
Well, you work for the. Your labor.
Jimmy Conrad
Yeah.
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Maverick
Slave yeah, so if you look into the sea org, that is the you know, they're kind of like their boot camp and there's levels to it, but you're basically, you know, a labor slave
Host
for them unless you're high up. Right, Right. Because Grant Cardone is high up.
Sean Kelly
Right?
Host
Yeah, he's part of that. Tom Cruise, I believe, is part of that.
Maverick
Right.
Davon
He's a big dog in there.
Host
So they donated a lot?
Maverick
Yeah, yeah.
Host
Grant donated over 10 million, I believe.
Maverick
Damn.
Davon
Damn.
Maverick
Well, it's a requirement, too. So a part of your income actually has to go to Scientologies.
Host
Yeah, I don't like that part.
Davon
And then they offer you a billion dollar contract. They offered her a billion year contract, not billion dollar. Billion year contract.
Maverick
Yeah.
Host
Why?
Maverick
Yeah, yeah. So it's.
Host
It's.
Maverick
Yeah, it's documented to where if you sign up with them, you're. You're signing essentially your labor, your allegiance for a billion years.
Host
What? You're signing your soul.
Sean Kelly
Exactly.
Host
Because you're going to reincarnate.
Maverick
Translation, you're selling your soul because nobody lives for a billion years. What does that really mean? Wow. Right.
Host
So they believe in afterlife?
Maverick
Oh, for sure. They believe in this. This God named Zeno.
Davon
Shout out to Zenu.
Maverick
Yeah, Xenu is essentially what. This is how they explain it. They take human beings from another planet. He dropped us off here and dropped us off in a volcano. And then we reincarnated and we have to get the thetans off. And these things are things that, you know, kind of float around you. And however many thetans you have. Yeah, you know, that's why you got to get audited, to see where you are.
Host
It's crazy wild.
Davon
It's loopy. It's loopy.
Maverick
It's very. Yeah, it sounds like science fiction. Why is that? Because L. Ron Hubbard, he's the one that created Scientology. Now, who was he?
Davon
Who's Elron Hubbard?
Maverick
L. Ron Hubbard is a science fiction writer who created Scientology. And if you look into his background, him and Jack Parsons were actually apprentices of the. None other than Aleister Crowley.
Davon
Who's Aleister Crowley?
Maverick
The greatest occultist of all time.
Davon
Okay, then.
Maverick
Okay.
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Maverick
So if you look into Aleister Crawley, Jack Parsons, and El Ron Hubbard, they all used to do rituals in Pasadena, California, and imagine sex rituals, right? So Jack Parsons, which, you know, he worked with L. Ron Hubbard, he was a rocket scientist himself. He was a physicist rocket scientist. Guess what he started.
Davon
What do you start?
Maverick
Jpl. Jpl? The Jet Propulsion Lab, which is a part of NASA.
Host
Wow.
Davon
Oh, shit.
Maverick
Okay, now a lot of those missing and dead scientists who do, they work for jpl, The Jet Propulsion Laboratory. So we have an occultist in our government. Surprise, surprise. Which is still running today.
Host
Wow. Yeah. As a kid, they taught us to really look up to NASA.
Maverick
Yeah, exactly.
Host
Look at their recent mission. Everyone's exposing it.
Maverick
Yeah.
Host
No one buys it anymore.
Maverick
No. NASA stands for not a space agency.
Davon
Never.
Host
I wanted to be an astronaut when I was a kid. That's how much they influenced me. Yeah.
Davon
Yeah.
Host
I thought it was awesome, but then I was too tall. You need to be like, under six two.
Davon
Oh, really?
Host
For the suit? Yeah. Oh, I don't know if that's changed, but.
Maverick
Interesting.
Host
Crazy. Right now. People are waking up to NASA.
Maverick
Yeah. NASA actually means to deceive in Hebrew, so.
Host
Wow.
Maverick
That's all.
Host
They got to hide it with the text, too.
Maverick
Yeah.
Host
You know, when you look at some of the meanings of these words, it's in plain sight.
Maverick
Oh, always. I mean, that's why they call it spelling. How come Spelling, which is actually word construction. How. How can we don't call it that. How can we don't call spelling letter assembly. That's what it is. Right. But we call it spelling. Why is that? It's casting a spell. It's in the words.
Host
Yeah.
Maverick
What you're speaking is not what you're really speaking. It's the meaning behind it.
Host
Absolutely. Witchcraft, man. You guys are both agnostic though, right? You're not tied to a religion?
Maverick
No, I'm not religious. I definitely believe in God, but I think that what we've been told is a bad bag of goods when it comes to religions, man. And I think it's something that's being revealed right now. And then if you look into Jesus himself, he wasn't religious. Where does it say to go to church in the Bible for what Jesus said? Where does he say Actually read the Bible. Right. He says, where is the kingdom of heaven? Within.
Host
Right.
Maverick
Which actually contradicts God because it's outward. He's saying, look within. So I think it's very convoluted. I think it's very. They use it to weaponize.
Host
Yeah.
Maverick
And to. To control people with their money and whatnot. Their allegiance scare people. And if you look into what Jesus said, I don't think people realize who Jesus really was. So if you really look at. To what he was saying, he was more saying that we have the power within Christ consciousness. This is why we have 33 vertebrae in our. In our spine, because going from the bottom to the top arcundi is, you know, essentially Christ consciousness.
Host
Right.
Maverick
So when we all ascend, when we all rise up. That is Christ consciousness. So that's what he was telling us.
Davon
I feel like that's what's kind of happening right now. Like, some people were ascending and then some are descending. Like, I feel like that's, that's what
Arsh Manning
the world is for.
Host
Sure.
Maverick
Exactly.
Host
What do you think about Tazariak? I know you just had him on. Yeah, Captain.
Maverick
Yeah, yeah.
Host
Is it him or did you just.
Maverick
A little bit. I, I, I had some questions for him because he says he hates white people. He thinks all white people.
Host
He loves the Bible, though.
Maverick
Yeah, he does.
Host
Interesting mix. I've never seen that in a person.
Maverick
Well, yeah, he brought up a great question on our podcast, and he said that because he was, he says black people are the original Israelites. Right. By that logic, does that mean black people kill Jesus?
Host
Did I stump him?
Davon
No, he answered, he answered honestly. He said, yeah.
Host
Oh, so he said, yeah.
Davon
He said, yeah, yeah. Which, I mean that, I mean, it just makes sense. Like a one plus one equals two.
Maverick
Yeah.
Host
Okay.
Davon
Which kind of, kind of makes sense on, you know, like, today's world or how it's like a crab in a barrel mentality.
Host
Yeah.
Davon
With it's, I see it changing, though, but like, yeah, with a lot of black people, it is that crabs in a barrel, like, you know, take your own out type of thing.
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Maverick
Yeah.
Host
You know, would you consider his religion a cult? Black Hebrew Israelites?
Maverick
It could be. If it gets too extreme, I think that anything where you have to have a certain type of label on it to where you are alienating a certain type of people, whether, you know, their ID ideas or, you know, their race, that can get dangerous because somebody may interpret that wrong, but, and may not have the, the intellect that you do and then go out and just start committing violent violence. No, that's that, that it can get slippery.
Host
I just wonder as his community grows, because right now there are a few thousand of them, but if that gets to the millions, what would that do?
Maverick
Yeah, you know, it'd be interesting to
Host
have millions of black people hating white people like that.
Maverick
Yeah, you don't want to, want to do that. So, yeah, we, we definitely had a nice discourse. And, you know, some things I agree. Some things I didn't agree. Yeah, I think that, you know, it's important to have those conversations, but just say, oh, there's one thing like him
Davon
just like, you know, just telling the truth of history and having some historic data to back it up.
Host
I'm all for that. I don't mind.
Davon
I'm all for that just.
Host
The whole racism thing.
Davon
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Host
That's a low. Like.
Davon
Yeah. I can't. I can't really get. I can't really get behind that.
Host
Yeah. I don't see racism as. I don't even think about it. Yeah.
Maverick
It's a construct, and I feel like.
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Davon
And it's. And it's kind of like. I feel like the place we're in as a society now is like we're kind of. We're kind of moving past the race.
Host
I hope so.
Maverick
Yeah, we are.
Davon
You know, it's kind of.
Maverick
A lot of people aren't.
Davon
People are starting to look up like, oh, it's these. Who's the real these up at the top of the ladder, like, yeah, of course. This is their little game to keep us doing this, like, this race, this gay, straight shit, whatever the. It is like this, you know, division.
Maverick
It's all division.
Host
Yeah.
Maverick
It's a tactic. How is it that black and white. How is that a race when there are colors first? Right. So do you see anybody else calling themselves yellow or red or blue? Doesn't make sense.
Sean Kelly
Right.
Maverick
But we call these two polarizing races black, white. Because people don't know. Black actually means. If you look into Noah Webster's American Dictionary for the English Language, what it actually means. Black. Black, bleak, and bleach are all the same word. And it means to make pale.
Host
Interesting.
Maverick
Yes.
Host
So black means to make pale.
Maverick
Yes.
Arsh Manning
Wow.
Maverick
So if you look.
Davon
Almost mean like. Like dead.
Maverick
It's lack. Yeah. It means dead. In black's law dictionary, it actually means dead.
Host
Wow.
Maverick
And if you look into Norris Webster's version of it to where he wrote all of our, you know, dictionaries, black actually means to make pale.
Host
Holy crap.
Maverick
Yeah.
Host
So it means death.
Maverick
Yeah, Death, lack thereof. And then all of a sudden, now it's a race.
Host
That's weird.
Maverick
Right? And then white, of course, peer. You know, all that. So that was weaponized.
Davon
It was constructed. It's constructively.
Host
Everything is right.
Davon
Exactly.
Host
You have to unlearn to get to a certain level these days.
Maverick
Exactly. Unlearn and relearn.
Host
Let's end off with Epstein. Do you guys see him as just a pawn, or do you think he was pretty high up in the grand scheme of things?
Davon
I think two things can be true. I think he was upon. He was a sacrificial lamb, but he was definitely their spokesman. He was definitely their liaison. If the shit hit the fan, he's going down. You know, not those 13 bloodlines, because they're. They're they're like. They're not even mentioned. Like, nobody even talked. Like, they.
Maverick
They're still around. Yeah. I mean, in the Epstein files. He says in the files himself that he represents the Rockefellers.
Host
Really? Yes. I didn't know that.
Sean Kelly
Yeah.
Maverick
So to say that you represent the Rockefellers and the rothschilds and the 13 bloodlines, all these people, that means you're still working for them, Right? So if you represent them, you know, he's part of the Trilateral Commission to where David Rockefeller actually founded. That commission himself, invited Epstein into that faction. Right. So that means you are being initiated, you are being included in their, you know, nefarious activities, but definitely a fall guy when everything, you know, falls apart.
Host
Do you guys even think these elites reside on Earth at this point? Do you think they're off planet? Do you think they even live amongst us?
Maverick
Yes and no. I think that the words that we're constantly hearing during congressional hearings is interdimensional. Interdimensional beings. Right. So if these people aren't fully human beings, are hybrids or whatever you want to call them. Reptilians. To be interdimensional means that you exist in this plane and another plane.
Host
Right.
Davon
They're from hell.
Maverick
Well, if you look into the Book of Enoch, the fallen angels and whatnot, to where they're having these fallen angels mix their blood with humans. Now we have giants and all these other things, the Nephilim. So, I mean, even Rep. Luna, she tweeted out the other day, read the Book of Enoch.
Host
Yeah.
Maverick
Why would she say that?
Davon
Damn. She tweeted that?
Jimmy Conrad
Yes.
Host
She's pretty woke for a congresswoman.
Maverick
Yeah, she was the first one.
Host
Yeah. She's been on twice. I think she was the first one to talk about UFOs and aliens, I think, in Congress, man.
Maverick
I would definitely love to have her on.
Host
I want to talk to her for y'. All.
Maverick
Yeah.
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Host
I feel like most people in Congress are compromised.
Jimmy Conrad
Yeah.
Host
She seems to be talking about stuff that, like, no one else is willing to talk about.
Maverick
Yeah, for sure.
Host
Which I respect. But when you look at who funds the congress people. Oh, my God.
Maverick
They didn't want to release their own files. They had the. They had the Congress files, which all. You know, in those files, it said they were releasing all their sexual misconduct.
Davon
Why would they do that?
Maverick
Guess who voted on it. Congress. Wait, so, yeah, they're gonna, you know, turn the camera back on themselves, like, oh, yeah, let's vote on this. Well, they all blocked it. Democrats and Republicans.
Host
Nuts.
Davon
That should have told everybody, right?
Arsh Manning
There.
Davon
There's.
Maverick
They're all full of shit. They're all on the list.
Davon
And you guys keep falling for it. Keep fucking falling for it. It's the same shit. There's no left. Right. There's. It's clear as day. If it's not as clear as day now, then it never will be. Motherfuckers are stupid.
Host
Have you guys ever ordered something off Wayfair?
Maverick
I used to, before they started selling weird cabinets for $10,000 named after missing victims. So there's that. And then that was in Epstein files too. Why is it that in the Epstein files? Wayfair. Which, you know, the Wayfarer conspiracy. Now, it may not be a conspiracy because Wayfair is mentioned over 389 times in the Epstein files.
Arsh Manning
Wow. OK.
Maverick
Ask me why Epstein was sending Wayfair chairs to none other than Woody Allen.
Davon
Oh.
Maverick
Who married his stepdaughter.
Davon
Right.
Maverick
Ok, so we have missing kids that have the same names at these as these expensive desks and chairs and cabinets. Interesting. And now it's in the Epstein files. And now he's sending chairs to woody Allen.
Davon
But UFOs, everybody.
Maverick
UFOs. Yeah, but UFOs, right. Interesting.
Host
Pizza was mentioned thousands of thousands of.
Davon
Pizza is just like a regular thing.
Host
Yeah. And jerky.
Maverick
Yeah, Jerky, hot dogs.
Host
You know, weird.
Maverick
All that stuff. So I mean.
Davon
I mean, I can't even say the F word. Fd. FD word.
Host
Oh, yeah.
Maverick
No. Yeah. So, I mean, why did Hillary Clinton hack him during her deposition? She didn't want to talk about pizza. Gate and frazzled.
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Maverick
She said, cut the cameras. I'll answer that question, but cut the cameras. Let's go off the record.
Host
Convenient.
Davon
Hey, two days after that. War happens.
Maverick
War happens.
Host
Wow.
Davon
I said it, though. I was like, the Clintons.
Host
Bill was something.
Davon
Yeah. Bill was literally having fun.
Maverick
He was reminiscing. He was like, damn, I remember that. I was in the tub.
Host
There's people that are above the law.
Maverick
Yeah.
Host
Let's be honest.
Davon
Oh, 100%.
Host
When you have so much money in power.
Maverick
Well, I think that that goes to. That adds more credence to the shadow government. Because if you think about the potency, he's only there for, you know, one term or two terms. Eight years, four years. He's only there to do what he does and then leaves. Right. So there's a shadow government that never goes away. So I think that's what we're dealing with.
Host
Yeah. Well, guys, where can people find the channel? Keep up with y'. All.
Maverick
The maverick approach on YouTube and maverickapproach.com get your question everything shirts question everything shirts.
Davon
Yeah.
Host
To get one of those.
Maverick
Yeah for sure. And then all the other handles same maverick approach on you know, X and Instagram.
Davon
Rat Bat is the brand the brotherhood no other hood.
Arsh Manning
Yes sir.
Host
Let's go. Peace. Thanks for watching to the end guys. Please comment below your thoughts on the episode if you agree. If you disagree, I'd love to hear. I read every single comment. Means a lot to me. Thank you so much.
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Host: Sean Kelly
Guests: Maverick, Davon
Date: July 3, 2026
In this bold, fast-paced episode, Sean Kelly sits down with recurring guests Maverick and Davon—hosts of the viral Maverick Approach podcast—to unpack the recent wave of assassination attempts on Donald Trump, the increasing prevalence of conspiracy and control in politics and tech, and the disturbing overlaps between government, media, and big tech. The discussion weaves together questions of surveillance, Hollywood handlers, AI’s societal impacts, shadow governments, racial constructs, religious control, and the legacy of Epstein. The tone is raw, questioning, and often skeptical, with each host pushing one another for deeper connections and insights.
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On Truth in Media:
“People resonating with the truth, man, the people want the truth right now.” – Davon [03:51]
On Hollywood Control:
“She gives me witch vibes.” – Davon [08:00]
“A lot of those in Hollywood to where ... somebody's putting up to it, like, say, hey, watch over this person.” – Maverick [08:15]
On Political Theatrics:
“How does somebody run through ... Secret Service and not get shot?” – Davon [10:32]
On Government Surveillance via Tech:
“All the tech we're using is from DARPA, which is arm of the government.” – Maverick [28:03]
On Social Programming:
“They show you before they do it, karmic debt, karmic retribution.” – Maverick [41:58]
On Institutional Control:
“It's two wings, same bird at this point.” – Maverick [15:29]
On Language as Spellwork:
“That's why they call it spelling ... It's casting a spell. It's in the words.” – Maverick [55:15]
On Race as a Construct:
“Black, bleak, and bleach are all the same word. And it means to make pale.” – Maverick [60:11]
“In Black’s Law Dictionary, it actually means dead.” – Maverick [60:18]
On Epstein as a Fixer:
“To say that you represent the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds ... that means you’re still working for them.” – Maverick [61:24]
This episode captures the spirit of the Maverick Approach’s skepticism and relentless questioning. By connecting dots across domains—assassinations, entertainment, AI, shadow elites, public health, language, and more—the discussion paints a picture of a world increasingly shaped by hidden hands and technological control, where public narratives often serve deeper agendas. The tone mixes intrigue, indignation, and dark humor, always doubling back to challenge what’s accepted as reality.
“Unlearn and relearn.” – Maverick [60:49]
This summary captures the core themes and major beats of episode #2045 of Digital Social Hour, for anyone needing a comprehensive overview without listening in full.