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Hi, I'm here to pick up my son, Milo. There's no Milo here. Who picked up my son from school.
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Streaming only on Peacock. I'm gonna need the name of everyone that could have a connection.
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You don't understand. It was just the five of us.
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So this was all planned. What are you gonna do?
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I will do whatever it takes to get my son back.
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I honestly didn't see this coming. These nice people killing each other. All her fault. A new series. Streaming now only on Peacock. So a lot of people cuz I had that came out these oh yellow snitch or he Wy woo. I never got nobody convicted. I never sent nobody. I never testified on nobody that's a snitch. You have a conversation you. Nowadays you can't even People think you get pulled up by the police. You say some they going to call everything snitch or you conversated with them. Okay? Sometimes you conversate with the police and run them in circles to see what they know so you can know how to move what's wrong, what they doing. You know what I'm saying? But a lot of people not from the streets, they don't understand how it go. They going to think oh you said this or wy woo woo. That mean you telling. All right, whatever. Call it what you want to call it. That's your opinion.
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All right guys, we got King Yella in the building. Let's go.
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Man, what's the big old deal, man?
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What's Hannah, you've been staying busy.
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Yeah, man. Trying to stand out the way.
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You staying out of trouble?
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Yeah, yeah.
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These days, right?
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I had got us a little bullshit. But I'm all right man. I'm all right. If it ain't nothing I can't handle. As long as I ain't in prison. As long as I'm out here to be able to take care of my kids and you know, be a father and you know, stay out the way.
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Six kids, right?
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Six. Six. I got six. That's biological mind. Then four, which was my girl. But I'm all my kids.
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Damn. 10 kids. You want more?
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I ain't stopping until God stop it when he ended. And it is what it is.
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All right, all right.
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I mean, you know, we meant to produce and you know, you know, keep it. Keep it going, man. You know, when I leave, I want my legacy to be here. I don't understand what people. I don't want no kids. Well, when you die, you just gonna die. And no legacy left behind. I mean, unless you got Other stuff going on, but you still want to be able to. You know, that's the purpose. That's what God did. If he didn't want to be all.
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Us here 100, you know what I'm saying? Did having kids change your perspective on life?
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Yeah, I had my first kid when I was 17.
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So damn, that's young.
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Yeah. Even though I was still doing stuff, it still gave me a way to. Damn, I gotta. You know, it motivated me to. I gotta get some money. I gotta stay free. I gotta stay out the way. I gotta, you know, be on my. But when I was in the streets, it was like what you know. You know, when people in the streets, they don't really think like that. You feel me? So like I went from selling drugs, you know, robbing, doing everything, whatever, to. To survive my life, you know what I'm saying? So that's what you know, and that's majority. You know, they ain't. Even if like young, they ain't giving nobody no jobs. And I was filling out applications before I even had tattoos and all that, before I even had felonies. And it still was. Wasn't getting. Wasn't getting hired. So it be like, what. What am supposed to do? And at that time, you know, your parents get to buying you what they want to buy you and doing like that, then you. Man, you know, I want the best of the best. You know, Georgia's coming out, we still in school. People. Other people wearing them so that, you know, that force people and other people don't understand. They look at a person as like a person, a bad person because he's selling drugs or he. Oh, it's to survive. To survive. It's not really at. When you know, you're not thinking that it's harming someone is doing stuff like that, you know, not. Not thinking like that even like. Even when robbing people are doing. That really wasn't my mo. But it doesn't happen before though, but, you know, or it probably was like somebody flashing. I'm up and I ain't got into you showing out and da, da, da, da, da. And then, you know, just being ignorant at the time and being, you know.
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Yeah.
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Then like that happened. But, you know, even though it's not a good thing, it's not now that I'm older, you know, all that shit is, you know. But even for the drugs, I ain't gonna say it's a. Life is so hard. It gets so hard. I understand why people do do drugs. It's not like life get hard shit, get tough, you know what I'm saying? And people back, you know, people lose. You lose people. You, you go through so much trauma. And that's how I realized that people like, I like, damn, they smoking crack and. Or they doing this and not realizing. People do things to. To cope and run and hide from reality. You know what I'm saying?
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Numb the pain, right?
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Yeah, numb the pain. So, you know, I understand. I understand when folks. Grandma. Somebody was smoking, cracking, doing that probably at first, she probably was going through something and then didn't realize it was going to either alive like that or, you know, do what it did. But yeah, with kids, stay away from the drugs. It's not a good thing.
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I was a dealer in college.
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You was?
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Yeah.
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See, you know, I was broke. Yeah, I gotta. It's the survival. I gotta eat.
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Yeah, I learned a lot of business skills doing it. Yeah, I learned a lot.
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That's what I'm saying. That's the. From drugs. People don't react, don't realize. Okay. From selling drugs. Okay. If I could do this, which is illegal, if I take the formula of what I know from doing this and put it into something positive or something that's legal, what's the difference? What's the difference? And that's how a lot of people do. That's why a lot of people that do be drug dealers or whatever they be, they turn out to. Oh, real estate, okay. I was flipping birds. Now I can flip houses or I could do this. You learn it's still a skill. At first it might be illegal. And I ain't going to say that because. What you going to say that it's just from drugs on the street, but the pharmacy and all that shit, still selling all type of drugs that got people fucked up. Legal drugs, it's legal drugs. Percocets and all that. That shit is killing people. All these drugs that they selling over the counter, everything. And this shit just the business. And the only reason that is illegal because they're not making money off of it. If they found a way to make money off of it and to legalize it, they will. The same way they did with weed. Oh, everybody smokes weed now. They legalize it. Come on, man.
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Yeah, there's people in prison for weed. That's crazy to me.
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I don't think they is now. Unless you were doing it like on the. Yeah, on the street. But like the people that Gotty Wap. Fatty Wap in prison for weed. Yeah, he probably was selling bowl.
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Yeah, there's People that sold it years ago, they're still in prison, you know.
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Well, a lot of people. Shit got overturned. I saw a lot of people like that had life because you can't. How could a person sit in jail for hella time? And y' all legalize this? If this legal now, that means it's.
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Not federally legal, though.
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It's not federally legal.
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Yeah. So.
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So the people in the feds. It's people in the feds. Yeah, the people in the state. Then them. The ones that probably done came home. Right?
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But, yeah, were you in Fed or were you in State when you were.
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Both. You both. Yeah.
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Fed was worse.
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I bet Fed was worse, but more militant and more structured and more make you be like, I don't want to go back to jail.
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Oh, so it's real bad.
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I was in Victorville, usp, and, you know, I just saw. I saw shit, man. People don't like. They don't play. You got niggas, and niggas got life. You know what I'm saying? The politics is very, very, very strong.
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In what way?
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Meaning you see everything. You know, it's different, like, seeing all races that you, like, probably don't see. Like, okay, damn, you got the Indians, you got the whites, or you got, you know, the. You seeing people and you just seeing how they move and seeing how I done saw whites kill each other stab. I saw different shit that I never saw before, and I'm like, damn, I didn't know they. You know. Well, now some motherfuckers be like, okay. Or people say people racist or what? Okay, now I'm seeing, okay, they saying black on black. Well, these other motherfuckers killing. Killing theyself the same way, too. But you just wasn't around that to see it.
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So there was a lot of infighting within the.
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See one thing, like, with the other races. Yeah. They just don't. Damn sex offenders, snitches. They stand. You know, the fed stand strong on paperwork, so. And that's all racist, though. Like, once you hit the yard, you can't. You. You got like, 45 days to show that.
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To show up that.
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Show that you not hot damn if your paper. You know, some people get through the cracks, and then somebody be like, boy, that got rolled up over there. But it was just hella different. I saw crazy shit, man. I told him I did it on Cam Capone, where he ain't want to talk about it. I saw the black. I never knew what it was. It's called a black hand. The black hand. Hit the yard. And this one man has so much power. It's like this man is like God to the Mexicans or to the Spanish or whatever they want, you know, you just see all of them respectfully, like, they all just. To this one man, what the. Like, I swear, like, you know, and then Black Hand, I guess he's the man with the power that run everything from no matter what. What, what part of what, what you is a gang or what part of what part of the country or wherever you from as being a Spanish person. Like, it's, it was just. It's crazy. Damn.
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He's like the mob boss.
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Yeah.
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Basically. What does he do? Is he like the leader of the cartel or something?
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I guess so. Probably so.
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Jeez. And he showed out to your prison?
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Yeah, I ain't meet him, but he showed up and they, they just. Oh, whoa. And you see everybody cooking and making food and doing and going to the car and they all came to the yard from every, every part of the prison. They, they all came out, they went over there and met with them. But you see, like that, you don't know because he might come and tell me, hey, kill that. Like that. You don't know it. Well, you know. Damn.
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Did they have the biggest numbers, the Mexicans in there?
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Victorville is like a Mexican shout out.
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Prison for sure. And it's so crazy on my way once that they told me I was going to federal prison from being in a holding which is in pahrump Nevada. So everybody. I'm on the bus. It was a lot of blacks. Hella blacks, right? So we go, everybody. They drop people off to the prison. We slide. So then they drop to the. The camp, the medium, the camp. You know, they calling people. I'm on the bus. They f. To call me. I'm going to go to camp. No. Lewis get called, okay. I ain't going to camera. I don't know. I gotta be going to the medium. It. No. Lewis get called. What the Pull up. Hey. Drive around a circle. Walls all the way in the sky. This. I never saw prison like this. This real? You the. Oh, hell no. You. Oh. Then I peep game. I looked on the bus. I'm on that. And then look at me. Tax everywhere. Every motherfucker on this bus. Then it look like this. They all Mexican, though. I said, what the. I'm gonna keep it gangster. Nigga could play and say, like, you hear the stories, like. And I'm a man and I stand on all. Yeah, I got butterflies when I got there. Damn. Yeah. Cause I'm like, damn. I don't know. I heard these stories. People died in this. And, you know, now I'm like, I ain't no blacks on this bus. Like, I'm by myself. Like, you know, that's how I'm looking at. I'm. I get fake nervous, huh? Shit. They calling everybody. Lewis, come out. I don't know how this is gonna be. This is my first time in a fair yard. I don't. I mean, I heard stories, but then you hear these stories about certain prisons where niggas don't make it out of us. So, I mean, anyway, when you go to prison, I don't care any play. You gonna get butterflies or whatever. Nervous, you know, and it ain't like, damn, I'm scared. Scared. Cause I get scared I'm gonna attack you. I get nervous.
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Fight or flight?
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Yeah. I get scared that it's really. I'm gonna go into that mode anyway. But I still get nervous. And look, look. Damn, I got a. Or something. Every time I know what's going on. But no, did I go. It was crazy because it was quarantined. So they. We would lock down as we went through. Like, people wasn't even tripping. Boop, boop. Wasn't Latin Kings, man. One of the Latin Kings from Chicago. Once they put us in this thing. Yeah, man. I'll be cracking up here, man. You want a knife, Man, I don't need no knife, man. You won't have to Take this knife, man. It's get wild up here. Now that man had a knife from a plastic ch. Cut the bottom. You know the plastic chairs.
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Plastic chairs.
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Just like a. Not a metal chair, just a. Any plastic chair. Yeah, but like a. All plastic. Just think of it. He took the. Cut the bottom of the leg and sharpened that bit and tried to give me some. I don't want this, man. This bitch just. I'm quick. You finna get caught, you going down, man. This is gonna be ugly, man. I ain't, man. Hell no, man. I'm straight, man. Keep that. I'mma just have to fight and do whatever I got to do. But once I came out, it wasn't like that, cuz the politics was different. Even like in regular prison, if you in tour with somebody like, I'm like the Feds, like gds, bds, Vice Lord, Stones. Let any gang that was from the Midwest or that came from that way. We all was together, really. Every gang. Even if this is a opinion somebody that I don't fuck with. We all are together because we are from that way. You got to think about it. The Fed is made, basically. It's federal, The DC niggas together, the down south people together. California Crips, Bloods, they rock together. You feel me? So that's how it is. So it's like, you know, if you're on gang time, then you on man time. You on man time by yourself. Some people might be like on, well, I'm on Midwest time. Well, you really on your own. But there's a lot of people from the Midwest that probably not in game. So they still thick, but they still under our umbrella because they're from the Midwest. Feel me?
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Yeah. So you didn't get any fights because of that?
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No, I ain't getting no fights, man. I don't be mad. I don't be having no fights like that I have in prison, but not in the Feds. Like especially just like now at this time. I'm king yellow too. Yeah, a lot of people was fanned out big sucks and trying to rap, doing like, you know. And then it's like I was a gang member, so you can't. And another thing, you can't just fight nobody. So whatever happens has to be like lined up. Unless a nigga just crash out.
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You got to get it approved, right?
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You have to get it approved. So like, I got a problem with fool. His car, don't talk to his car. What I'm saying, that's gonna. It can't happen. You can't just go bust on a. Because it's gonna send it up and then it's gonna. Everything got, you know, got going on. Might be selling this or doing this or get that or get this. So you can't just do that, Cuz now you gonna be. You did something to it up. They gonna kill you. And it ain't gonna be, no, you getting a dp. They're gonna kill you up there. So it's gonna be. It's just like that. You're gonna die. Damn. Yeah. Instantly you're gonna die. You up there playing with niggas that got 10 life sentences. Tupac daddy was up there. Really? What's her name? I forgot Tupac Daddy, man. Tupac daddy was up there.
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His actual dad was up there?
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Yeah. What's the name? Shakur. I forgot his name. He was an old man. He just walked the yard with his hand behind his back, long ass dress. He just came home. Oh, wow. He just walked circles. It was. I was up there with actually the like. Like a lot of the top people. Some that hijacked like some chips. It was all type of crazy people up there. You just seen like multi millionaires. Other people.
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You still talk to any of them?
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I got a couple of my homies. I got a couple of my homies that's still in prison. Pooh Shiesty was up there.
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No way.
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Yeah, he actually was. I was in for 5B. He was in 5B too. Wow. He went right when I left. He went exactly to my. My building.
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That's nuts. How were they treating him? Because sometimes they treat them the opposite.
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You know, he from down south, he's not a gang member, so he was on the. The. The south car. And the south car is kind of a little. They're a little different.
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We'll leave it at that.
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Yeah. Cuz, I'm gonna tell you, they called gunners, like they like to jack off to ladies a lot.
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Really?
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And they might be groups of them. I'm serious.
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What?
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Like they stand there, somebody might got the eyes shot and like they was play with they dick and jack off.
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What the fuck?
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I'm serious. People do that I'm telling you, you can't do. I couldn't do it. I'm on. Game time, folks. Put your dick in the door and slam that. You can't do that. But like, that's what the down south car do. Like even if. Cause there's people from down south that might be GD or might be BD or whatever. Vice Lord. So they're on gang time with us. But the people that don't gang bang and they're on that, they own that type of time. They doing what they want to do. They go. They go to the hole and come back out. See, we can't do shit like that. You get caught doing that, they're going to roll you. And once you get put up, kick, go to the hole. You can't even come back on the yard. You leaving the yard, you got to go to another prison. Not going to accept you. Like, say, if he go up there. If he go up there, like, say somebody go to the hole or whatever. And I don't accept, like, anybody. Like, if I don't accept or I don't agree with them sending my homie up there and what they did. If I feel he wrong, I could go up there and talk to the people, get him out of there. Oh, wow. Back on the yard, you know what I'm saying? And we just got to stand on the business with the niggas, you feel me? But yeah, the down south con cold. The D.C. niggas cold, too. They be mad. They could be mad. They be freaky. They going. They. They killers. And they be. They killers. But they like. But. And I ain't going. Dc niggas be mad. I ain't going to say all y'. All. But you got to understand, D.C. they don't. They whole state is federal. They don't go to state prison for tickets. They going to the feds. Holy shit. Anything they do. Speeding tickets, anything they do. There's not a state that's the capital or the United States. So anything they do, they the only ones that see the parole board and the feds. Because that's their state. So the D.C. niggas, like, override more majority. Like wherever, like the Midwest, east coast and shit like that. There is gonna be more D.C. niggas. Because everything they do is federal. So that's nuts. But, yeah, them will kill you and you at the same time. Holy.
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Hey, yeah, I'll pass on that. You ever end up in the hole?
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I've been to the hole. Not in the fez, though. I was cool. Like, know I ain't. No. You know, I'm a big dog, man. You like. There's a lot that come with playing with somebody. Like, they might talk crazy on the Internet like it ain't real. Life ain't happening.
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You got a lot of people that got your back.
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Yeah. And I'm a scared of business myself. But they were like, I'm Gonna I'm get you attached before you think you something.
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Yeah, you've taken a step back from that though, right now you're more, more casual.
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But I'm saying if I. I'm respectfully like all my life, like I've never been that person where I'm not a bully. But if you come for me and you come for mine and I have to. Everything like in my life like nigga was like, oh, even from jumping around with guns and doing shit like that, all this shit was always meant for protection. It's not that we're trying to harm you, but you got people that's trying to harm us or you got people trying to take from us or take from my kids or take from my mouth or take from my brother or do whatever we gonna fuck you up. Like that's just gonna be that. Like. But I never been the type where I'm bullying and da da da, da da da da. Like no, I'm a good hearted person, you feel me? Like I said before, like I done did some shit and we all done did some shit, but just cause you did some so up. Do that make you a bad person because you made a bad mistake, a bad choice?
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No, that's just the environment you grew up in, right? That's all you knew at the time.
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That's all you knew. So you adapt to your. Yo, I'm a product of my environment. But I always been more smarter than the average person. I always saw the future. I always thought ahead, I always been ahead of my time on a lot of shit, you feel me? It's like, man, you know, a lot of shit I did because I had to do it, it wasn't. Oh, that's really what I wanted to do. This was like, this was what was going on. And then when you young too, you, you trying to be cool, you trying to impress your homies, you doing shit. If you don't do it, you a ass nigga. Like, you know, so a lot of the you doing, you know, even if you, you don't want to do it in your head you might be like this. But you know, these your guys. Like, damn, I gotta slide with my guys. I gotta do this. You know, just being honest. I ain't never been a crash out. Like, even if a situ. If I ain't like the situation, I'm not. If I don't like it, I ain't doing it. Really. If I feel like we no we not. I'm not doing it. You, I'm gone. Y' all can go crash out. And a lot of times that happened now homies, that's not coming home or they're dead. And, you know, I'm a Pisces, so I. I see. I don't know, like, people. Me, I like. I think I see a lot of visions. I see ahead of time. I see shit before it happened. I see a lot of shit that people don't like.
A
No, you got a spiritual side to you.
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A big spiritual.
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Have you always had that?
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Yeah, yeah. That's a key, really. Since a kid probably when I was a kid, I really didn't notice, but I understand. Like, I beat a lot of. And I moved like I got caught or I like. But a lot of that could have been way worser.
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Yeah.
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Like I could be dead right now. I could easily doing life right now. For me to still be here talking to you and moving, to be able to be a father and take care of my kids. Like, I beat the odds. All my homies dead. A lot of people I tell don't do this or don't go. There they go. My homies come out here, I got you. I'll put you in a position to live your life in Vegas. Don't worry about it. They say, oh, you scared. You a bitch. Okay. It is what it is. You're alive to be a father. Your kid, niggas go back and they just die. Niggas die. And that'd be like. I see a lot of that shit. That's why I don't even really go. I don't go home no more.
A
You don't go to Chicago anymore?
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For what? My kids stay out here with me. You know, I love my family, but, you know, my life, I got my own life. Like, I can't, you know, y' all got y' all life, you know, respectfully. I live in Vegas. So if you want to see me, this is a place where everybody take a trip. You miss me, come see me, then come hang out. I'm going to hang out with somewhere I got to look over my shoulder or I know I got to adapt back to that soon I get off the plane, what a Glock with the switch, with a stick. I need it, you know what I'm saying? And I don't want to have to be like that. So. So for me to stop that happening before, to be cool or to prove a point to a motherfucker, I'm not finna let my kids down. I'm not finna let my girl down. I'm not finna let My family down, going back and something happened to me. I'm taking care and I'm the breadwinner. I'm the muscle of everything that's going on. So when I lose, if I go to prison, I do this and I fail my kids, I fail my family, I fail. So you know, when don't realize you died, you do all that, you fail. You leaving your responsibility on other people. You fail. You a loser gang that shit become you a loser. Because niggas want to be at these places and be in these places parties and doing all this and being cool. And man, listen, man, I'm from the streets, man. When we die, them streets still going to be there. Same streets that you don't even own if you don't. We don't own none of this. We don't own none of this. That still gonna be there. My don't understand that like that. Like I had to learn that, man. I had to learn, man. It was a time in my life when 70, 38 is all I knew. I ain't give a about going out of town nothing. All I want to do is wake up, sell crack, get drunk. Hoes post on this block, my block was. And still to this day, this one of the partiest. It was just you feel love when you on your block and your and our blocks. Like we don't really have these neighborhoods where I grew up at, it's like it's not no new people really. Yeah, certain careers become like Section 8 houses. But half of these people that lived in this neighborhood have been there since like I was born in the 90s. So the people that was living there, been there since the 60s, the 60s, the 50s, you feel me? These are families my mom and them grew up with. You know, my daddy grew up with, they, they daddy, they mama, you feel me? So we all knew each other all our life. It ain't like, oh, we moving every year or we here, oh, 1238 West 74th street been the address I was born at. And until I was. Well, my Grandma died in 2014 and then the house still was there. You feel me? It's abandoned now, but I was like, you know, that's all the knew this. We in one house. You know, I lived in different places because my mom and, well, my grandma been in the same exact house my entire life. My son was made in this, the same house.
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Crazy. So not a lot of people escape that poverty right in those neighborhoods.
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They don't. I grew up still selling crack with my daddy homies. That was on the block, you was hustling with my daddy. And at that time, like, that showed me. But, like, my mama live in California. She moved in to California in 2000, so. And growing up, like, even though coming from that, my auntie and I, we. We went to Orlando. We went to, you know, great America. We been. We, you know, we was going traveling and seeing different places. But for my mama to move to California, you know, Minnesota, different places I lived as a child, it opened up my mind young to know that there was more than Chicago. Maybe if I was a nigga that was just stuck in Chicago and never went nowhere. But my family took us on trip. We went on vacation to different places and saw different things. Yeah. So camping, just different shit. Like, I ain't just, you know, even though I'm from the trenches, I saw more like I was the one that could. On. On the block, that could tell these different stories. Oh, you ain't never been around a white person?
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Well, I have.
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Because in Chicago, you don't have that. Yeah, it's so segregated, the city, the blocks, everything is segregated.
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Damn.
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Even in schools, there was all blacks.
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In the whole school.
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You don't go. When I went to California, that's my first time at Sacramento. My first time ever seeing an Asian talking. And, you know, they from Bay Area, like, of Asian talk. Hey, what the. It was crazy to me. This. He talking like he black. I'm thinking he black then. Now I get older. How can somebody talk like you black? You can't talk like a color.
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You talk like an environment that's deep.
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Talking like an environment. You talk about. You talk. That's why you went. Oh, why a black person? Why you. You. You act white. No, he's. Where he's from, right? The area he went to school. He's uppity, probably. Uppity, classy, you know, shit like that. So you. You talk like, where you from? So that's everybody. You from down south. You're gonna sound like that over there or you can't talk like a color. Oh, you talk white. You can't. You can't talk white?
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Yeah, skinny from the nine, right?
B
It's getting white.
A
And he drops the N word.
B
Oh, but skinny ain't white. Skinny like Puerto Rican, Cuban. Yeah, you know, they. Majority of them, like they're black. If that's. I don't know. You know, the world crazy. I don't know. But you call Skinny white, he gonna have a heart attack. Skinny, you white?
A
Yeah, white. I don't get caught up in the Race stuff, dude. I think it's a distraction.
B
It is, it is. A lot of that is for sure.
A
I know Unk talks about it a lot, but. Yeah, a lot of people use it as, like, hatred these days.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah. Did you used to think that way? What, like racism and stuff? Like, did you feel like you were being the system was against you?
B
The system, Really? I, I, I don't feel like I'm not a racist. I got, you know, I got mixed kids and stuff like that, too. Got little Asian babies. I got white babies.
A
You got Asian baby.
B
My baby mama. Black and Asian. Let's go blacks and Japanese. So then I got a white baby mama, too. I got black baby mama. So it ain't no, you know, ain't no. But for sure, the blacks is definitely always. And then people be like, oh, I mean, you could be better. Whoopi, whoop, whoop, or whatever. But that don't matter because people just be targeted. You know, white cop pull over a black man. Oh, whoa. You see the videos? They kill us. They, you know, they just treat us like shit. And I'm not saying every white person is like that or whatever, but I say these people that take on these jobs, they go to the first, they be in the armies. Then after the army, they become officers. Some of them don't be. They just be. And they raised like that. A lot of be bloodline, you raised like that. Them ain't no way you gonna tell me that. I could watch a video. He pulled a white person out the car, and he got a gun, a knife in his hand. Y' all don't shoot him one time. Soon a got him. He done got nothing. He ain't got a phone. He ain't even had nothing. He had a pen. He ain't even had nothing. Look like it. Hey, shoot him out. And the reason I could preach on that, my first time going to prison, 2010, and I did have a gun in my hand. You know what I'm saying? I went to prison. Aggravated. Aggravated assault, aggravated discharge on the police with a firearm, which the police lied and said that I upped the gun on them. In reality, I saw them and I started running. So the gun in my hand, I never dropped the gun at the time. So me running the gun, probably as me running they behind me. I pull the garbage cans down, try to they behind me. I make them fall and everything. They pulling me down. Boom, boom, boom. And this why I be always like. Like, I just, I know, like, I'm the chosen one. I'm different this situation. I'm supposed to be dead. Oh, I got a lot of situations where I supposed to be dead. The police is trying to kill. He's running behind me. Two police officers shooting at me.
A
Damn.
B
I had dreads at the time. Dreads shut off through the side. My shit short. Boop. That could have been my whole head. He missed. He missed. I throw the gun. Boop run, try to get out. They got me surrounded. Tried to kick the door in. Boop get caught. But what I'm saying is, automatically when I started running, they bitch ass shot at me instantly. It wasn't no nothing to talk about. I'm not. This had nothing to do with Judge. Y' all pull up. I had the gun. I'm finna do something to somebody else. And y' all pull up. Cause y' all the police. But the first thing you do is shoot your gun and try to kill me. So this. I know, I know. And I watch a lot of videos. Everybody like, everybody. You feel me? So just from everything that they done did, they don't. They killed a lot of people. A lot of. A lot of people die. And you don't even know what's going on. Some people got. What if these guns legal? Because he got a gun. You pulling somebody over that probably got licensed for his gun, you know, concealed and carry everything. Y' all killing them, but the system, I just know the difference, bro. I know the difference of how they just treat other people, man, when they treat their own. You know what I'm saying? They're not gonna watch them see a video of a white officer doing nothing wrong to a white person. It's probably shoot very slim. But it's gonna be like so big of a white. A white officer doing something to a black man. You know, and the proof is in the pudding. Just go on the Internet and see. So, man, even Vegas, there's a lot of shit in Vegas that they do to niggas too. Really.
A
Vegas cops look up killing.
B
Police killing in Vegas. That gonna show you damn, run this down.
A
Vegas hides a lot of the. The deaths on the Strip. They don't want bad.
B
Yeah, they don't want bad because there's.
A
A lot of deaths on Strip, bro.
B
You know, they not going. They're not gonna publicize that. They're not gonna put it out there to the world because it's a tourist state. They don't want to their money up. Yeah, they don't want to their money up. They do a lot of up shit here too. You gotta understand this Shit was built on the mob. Everything, all this shit, everything in cahoots out here. From the jails to the, like. If you go back, I caught a case out here, right?
A
Yep.
B
I don't know if you looked it up. The police found the gun in my pants.
A
Was this the recent one or the.
B
This 2018. Okay, the police around this, I'm telling you, they target people. They knew who I was already. I had a situation with Cardi B Offset, the Migos, all that type of shit. I get pulled over, I got the gun. They tell me to get out the car. I put the gun in my drawers. Yeah, the man pulled me over because I was parked in a handicap spot. Okay? If you pull me over in a handicap spot, that's a parking citation, right? It's a ticket. So you come to my car and telling me to stop. I mean, step out. No, you told me. You just clearly said this is for a parking citation. So now, like, I'm into all this shit. Okay? You prolong the stop. That's illegal. You can't do that. You can't tell me and force me out the car. Nothing. Everything these people did was bogus. They came 100 deep. That's the only reason I upped. Got out the car. They put guns to the window, 100 of them. Man. You. The video on YouTube, you pull it up, it ain't no secret it's up, man. They put pulling. They searching. You can't. If you don't. Once you do a frame search, pat down, you don't feel nothing. You can't catch. Keep searching. Nobody. They can't overly search you. Especially on a public place. I'm on the street. You gotta take somebody into custody. And if you don't have a reason to take a person into custody, you can't take them into custody. They sat there over searching. Boop. Then a man did this. What's that? The man touched my nuts. What's that? And stuck his hand in my pants. That's illegal. You can't do that, no matter what. I got license and insurance. I'm not on parole. I'm not on probation. It's called fruits from a poisonous tree. Any I could have 20 bricks in that car. It doesn't matter what I had in that car. If you didn't get this shit out my car legally. This shit's supposed to get dropped. It was dropped in the state, right? So who go pick it up? The feds? Pick it up.
A
Damn.
B
But even with the feds, it was weak. It was weak over There they really couldn't even do nothing to me. I got out on pre trial, called another case. I put a suppression here and there and people would be, oh, on the Internet, yellow. You put a, something in to, you know, to cover up. No, a suppression hearing. I put in. They violated my fourth amendment, my fifth amendment, my sixth amendment. They did all type of shit. And I put the suppression here. And then the judge put it on docket. The docket that same day, put it in because what they did was bogus. So soon they did that. He go to DA they coming every day. Oh, oh, they're calling. Ooh, they want a deal. They got a deal. They want because they knew they was in the wrong and they know they lose. I'm gonna get a lawsuit, I'm gonna get all this and that. So they did all type of shit, but it still end up. I end up still going to feds because I got out, they sat my. They did some bogus. They trick my baby mama to doing some weird ass shit, end up putting another case on me that up my fed case and end up sending me to prison for that shit.
A
But feds don't lose, man. 98% conviction rate.
B
Even if they lose, they're gonna come get you.
A
Yeah, if you beat them.
B
See, and this is another reason why I made my own deal up. I took time served and probation for like a year. Low right? And the reason I did that, because in my head I was like, I don't want to beat these people. And then they find something just. They cold. They will back though and do anything to get you back in their system. I was like, I don't want to do nothing. Well, I beat them and they, I get pulled over. Next thing you know, I look up, I got 10 bricks in my trunk or something. You feel me? Yeah, they do that. You got to think about it, man.
A
They did that to my brother in law.
B
They take everything, everything from the richest people in the world. The richest people. At first they used to target the drug dealers. Now look who all in the feds now. All rappers. All the rappers is in the feds. All of them. The people that little. Oh, you a game banger now. Now you making money from whatever you making money from and doing that, what you doing. They coming to take everything from all the rappers, man. Look at Lil Durk and all them man who came and got them? The feds, man, from everybody. The fans is coming, man. They ain't playing. They.
A
Yeah, I know they plan stuff though. They got my brother in law yeah, yeah. They planted some in his car.
B
Dude. Yeah, that's what.
A
I'm crazy.
B
I know. I know what they do, bro. I know what they do. They cold they back, though. Yeah. All the money. They take money. Then you got to think about. Okay, they snatch you. Okay, Give us this information, we'll let you go. Especially they want the big fish. You a small ball would tell us girls everything you know about dudes. We let you go. See how they play. But they. They just call him with 10 breaks. Little dirt daddy say, man, they grabbed him and took him to a secret spot and told him to tell on Larry Hoover. He a tell on Larry Hoover. He went to prison for 30 years.
A
Damn.
B
Come on, man.
A
I'm sure they offered you some, too.
B
No, they ain't.
A
They didn't offer you a deal.
B
I mean, I really ain't do. I ain't do. No, you gotta. You know, they tried like, dude. Like, it was a dude named Brigandi. Matter of fact, he. He. I ain't a lot. Matter of fact, yeah, he did, now that I think about it. Detective named Burgundy. You right. I forgot about that. So a lot of people, because I had some shit that came out these. Oh, yellow snitch or he wooty woo. I never got nobody convicted. I never sent nobody. I never testified on nobody that's a snitch. You have a conversation, you. Nowadays, you can't even. People think you get pulled up by the police. You say some they gonna call everything. Yeah, but you conversated with them, okay. Sometimes you conversate with the police and run them in circles to see what they know. So you can know how to move what they wrong, what they doing. You know what I'm saying? But a lot of people not from the streets, they don't understand how it go. They gonna think, oh, you said this or wy woo woo. That mean you tell him, all right, whatever. Call it what you want to call it. That's your opinion.
A
Yeah, I saw that with Adam 22. A lot of people are calling him a snitch.
B
Yeah, Adam has. Adam is a snitch.
A
Oh, he is Adam.
B
Adam Platform is. Adam Platform is getting niggas indicted.
A
You were on there a few times, right?
B
Adam Becdo. He's not genuine. He's just smiling. He's a snake. He's a smile on your face again. You got to realize, Adam family is Adam Daddy was pardoned by Bush or Clinton or one of them. Yeah. Do the background check on who that man is. He ain't. That's why he act the way he act like he do that. That's where his money come from. His. His family is a tie with the presidents and shit like that.
C
Wow.
A
So it's all a psyop.
B
Yeah.
A
Holy crap.
B
Yeah.
A
I didn't know that.
B
Well, yeah, he just brain. You see, majority of the people he brings, he bring black people from, you know, poverty and people that's, you know, about more killing and like that. Just negative shit. You're not going to go on there. He's not going to ask you nothing. Ever going to ask you nothing positive one time. It's not going to ask you nothing about your career or this or that, your kids, what's life like. Nothing. So, yeah, I hope so. And so shot what's her name? Or this person, killed this person. Or oh, he dissed him. And it's just always negativity. It's like, that's like a devilish like. And people. That's why. And I. With Adam, I liked it until I realized the platform, what he was doing. He's just a user. And he started playing with me, calling me a snitch. And every time he. He brought somebody on his thing, he'll. Well, they say King Yellow snitch. Like, why is you. You keep bringing my name up? Like, what are you talking about?
A
Like, because he knows you drive clicks and views.
B
Yeah.
A
That's why he does it.
B
Yeah.
A
He gets money off that.
B
Yeah. You know, I mean, that's what I'm saying. So everything is about the bag. But still, in all, like, that's like, me and you, we develop a relationship, right? And we got a relationship. Yeah. You not gonna sit on this podcast and downplay me if we develop a relationship. You know what I'm saying? And like, I. I really with King Yellen in real life and be like, oh, that's bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? So it was like, okay, now I see what he was doing now. It was like a lot of he was doing. I started taking them first I wasn't. Then I just started taking it personal. He disrespected my female cousin. It was just a lot of now was like, not only is you doing Internet, you talking about real life. And it's not. Basically, you disrespected me as a man.
A
Yeah, yeah, there's a line here. Yeah, there's a line for sure.
B
I understand the cloud, what people do, but it's just certain shit you don't do. Like, you just keep dragging it on and you doing this and you mentioning my name and get other people from other places. We got niggas from Florida, Florida, California. I'm not even in these politics. Why is you bringing these up? Talk about some California, talk about some Florida. Don't talk about me to these. You know what I'm saying? Because now you storing up. Cause people crash out. Now you got other. Oh, yeah, that rat or this. Now you got me finna tweak with these people that you speaking on. You know what I'm saying? Or got speaking on me.
A
It makes you wonder if there's some people that have lost their lives because of stuff set on that for sure.
B
You got to think a so many people that went on that man platform that went to prison, that's fighting murders right after they went on his right. A lot of them die. All that, man. That's why I'd be like, man, you gotta pay attention, man. Gotta pay attention. Adam is not for the people, man.
A
I believe in karma. So, like, when you're putting out messages like that, that's a dangerous game.
B
Don't come around to him. That's why look what he do. He have no morals. He sealed his wife. You let your man, your. Your wife get for a living. Yeah, and she Arabic.
A
Really?
B
I didn't know that she's. Stop it, man. Did you know they don't even play like that? So you got a Arabic woman and sucking on the end. Like, think about what her family really thinking about. You know, they don't play that. They not. What the. They disowning that they not playing. Come on, man. Oh, you ain't. I ain't never really. I don't know this. I didn't even know this. Now I'm looking at her. But you would tell if she put the on and did all that. You could tell if she put this on you, then okay, yeah, you want to know, but like, come on, man. Ain't no way possible I'm selling my wife and my wife sucking dicks. As long as these microphones in this thing right here.
A
No amount of money.
B
And then come in the house and you kiss me in my mouth. That just. She has no morals at all, and he has none. Y' all can't respect each other. That lets you know right there. But then guess what that break down is. Everything is about the money with him. Everything he used. He using the black people for they shit for the money. He using his wife for the money. Oh, man, it's all about the Bagram. He don't give a fuck. He probably don't care about himself. He probably suck dick himself, man.
A
That's nuts, dude. You've been on Vlad too. What do you think of him?
B
Vlad cool. To tell you the truth. Vlad the first. Before I started doing interviews, I did a song with. I don't know if you know, Slim Jesus is heard of him. Slim Jesus looked up to me. I'm on a remix drill time. I'm like one of the people that influenced him. So Vlad, like before all these other people. Vlad was the first person that really interviewed me that I did an interview probably 5, 600,000 views in 2015 back then. You feel me? So yeah, I fuck with Vlad. But they say Vlad should a little police E2. But I sit back and like I understand people got a job to do. And if you fall just like right now, if you ask me some police shit, if my stupid ass. That's if the police ask you some shit, if your stupid ass sit there and answer that way, then that's on you. You the fucking one that did. You know. So you know, a lot of people do their job, man. You know what I'm saying? I with Vlad, he just stingy. He don't want to get my. He make a lot of money off people. He don't want to give him a. No. No money at all, man.
A
There's some money in this space. I just saw Charleston. Charleston white. You know he's getting paid millions for getting interviewed these days.
B
Millions.
A
Yeah.
B
Get the out of here.
A
Who's that guy? Say Cheese has paid him over a mill.
B
Say yeah. Because all the money they say Cheese platform really turned to a Charleston. All Charleston do millions on once a.
A
Month on say Cheese. Yeah. First week of the month and say Cheese.
B
It's so crazy. I'm like the first person that brought. He'll tell you me billionaire black, even 600 breezy. I think we the first people that brought say Cheese to Chicago.
A
Damn.
B
Say Cheese to tell you he gonna always man, if it wasn't for yelling, I wouldn't be in it.
A
Yeah, that's big time, man.
B
A lot of these people you don't know you should be able like ah. I helped create. And I ain't saying it as I'm trying to tell because Sean Cotton, my boy, that's my boy and his love. He don't play anytime he ain't gonna yell it. I got this money for you come do the interview. And that's how he gonna come. It ain't gonna be no I just want you to Whoopi woo woo. Respectfully. But we started. We like one of them. We started together, like when he was not where he in the position that he in now. He's in a position to put people in position to win, to get a lot of money. Now he's signing people. We got say Cheese Records, all type of shit like that. That's why he probably is giving Charleston that bag like that.
A
Damn. So you've been in the social media game for a minute then.
B
Yeah, I was doing this shit when I didn't even know what I was really doing. Like, I didn't even know a lot of people. I'm not getting on nobody platform unless they pay me, you know what I'm saying? Unless I, you know, if I feel that it's beneficial or I feel that, you know, especially like the first time coming, I showed. That's why I'm different. I'm. I'm so love and you know, but like, hell no. Because I know the bag that's in a lot of this shit. And hell no, I. I got kids to feed. I'm coming up.
A
Yeah, you got 10 kids feed.
B
But a lot of these niggas, man, I help, you know, start they. I help create with them. I help, you know, and not saying I did everything, but, you know, I balanced a lot of these niggas and put niggas in a lot of situations and know and help, you know, uprise a lot of people, you know, I made a lot of money in this too myself.
A
Yeah, you on a show now. You're doing some big stuff. Tell people. Tell people what you're working on right now. Got a little reality show, huh?
B
Yeah, me and Auntie unc. I mean, 607, auntie. 607, auntie.
A
You guys go hella viral together.
B
Yeah, that's my boy, man. Lot of people and people be doing, man, I understand and I look at from different angles. Even from Charleston White. Charleston White did a lot of disrespectful disrespect. He called the police on me while I was on federal parole.
A
Damn, I didn't know that.
B
Tried to get me locked. He did some, but he do real too. I like a lot of the that he like me and my interviews and when I talk like the caption might be, I might make it seem up, but when you get in, it is a real message. And I see that a lot of people don't see a lot of people just see Charleston for the bullshit that he do. But I understand you have to put tactics because I could be around this you don't pay attention. I smack everything in this. You got something to say, right? You paying attention, right? But when I'm around this regular. No, that might be paying attention. They want the rah rah crazy. That's what they looking for.
A
You gotta hook her.
B
Yeah. So. And that's all he did. Not saying that Charleston. That's probably not gonna be Charleston. But Charleston tricked you and made you think that. Or he got your attention. Now you paying attention to him. Now. I could get y' all this now y' all listening now. Y' all paying attention. You feel me? And 607unc too. UNC the same way, man and his more spiritual. He puts you in a different shell. But 607 UNC giving you messages in a different way. That only woke people. You hear that? Woke. So a lot of you brain dead will never understand. A lot of brain dead people ain't gonna understand Charleston White. They just gonna think what doing is. It's because you're not paying attention to the message. Yeah, you're not paying attention to the message. It's deeper than what you think. A lot of this is deeper than what people think. 607. Oh, definitely deeper than what people think too.
A
Way deeper. I'm trying to unite them, man. They both agreed to come on here and have a conversation.
B
Charleston and them. Yeah, I mean, you gotta make sure I'm here me and say she's supposed to put something Charleston said on the thing. Charleston, I will. Only person from Chicago I sit down and talk with is King Yellow.
A
Really?
B
The only nigga that got some real sense.
A
Damn. So you and him are cool now?
B
I ain't gonna say we cool, but maturity, growth, you know, I'm still gonna call him out. Bitch ass. Disrespect my child. You know, I should have smacked the shit out you, but, you know, I'll be the bigger person, you know? You know, God forgive, You know, God forgive. So I gotta forgive, you know, And I feel like. I don't feel like it was. I don't feel like he was serious with a lot of shit he was saying. I feel like he was trolling even though he said it, but I feel like he was just. At that time, my YouTube was popping. That's what Charleston do. He attacks the person that coming up to keep him going. So you know what I'm saying? Even now, he not doing it because he got all these deals, endorsements, he got a lot of shit going for. So. Which was the goal?
A
Yeah.
B
Make sure I'm setting. I get some money. I'm getting some paper now. That's what it's about. Now I ain't got to troll and do all this no more. I'm really doing this to get a bag.
A
Yeah, he's toned it back a bit lately.
B
Yeah. Yeah, I noticed that because they gave him his paper. He need. I ain't gonna be talking either. I'm a multi millionaire. Where you at? I'm in B, some pool.
A
I'll help you get there. Oh, man. I'mma set up a combo with you and Charleston then, if you're cool with that.
B
Yeah, we can put it together.
A
I'll get them out here. Yeah, let's do it.
B
We can put it together for sure.
A
Where else can people find you in the meantime?
B
King Yellow, so blessed on Instagram, man. King yellow. What's my YouTube channel?
A
I don't just search King Yellow. I'm sure it'll pop up.
B
King Yellow. You'll find me. Shout out the guys, man.
A
Brought the squad.
B
I got my youngest there. Come get on camera, man.
A
Come on, let's go. Oh, this your son?
B
My little brother. Oh, it's my son right here.
A
Yeah, this is the camera here.
B
I get it now. Here. Y' all know what's going on, man? Check me out, man. Damn. BK1, man. What your head now? Can't see.
A
Family is everything.
B
I'm fucking.
A
Check them out, guys. See you next time. Peace.
C
I hope you guys are enjoying the show. Please don't forget to like and subscribe.
B
It helps the show a lot with the algorithm. Thank you.
Guest: King Yella | Host: Sean Kelly
Date: November 20, 2025
Title: “They Tried to Bury Me”: King Yella on Street Life, Survival & Growth
In this raw, unfiltered episode, Sean Kelly hosts rapper and former Chicago gang member King Yella for a wide-ranging conversation about street life, survival, trauma, and transformation. Yella details his tumultuous past, discusses the complexities of navigating prison and the criminal justice system, and reflects on personal growth and fatherhood. The episode dives into race, policing, snitching accusations, the machinery of social media, and the spiritual side of survival. Expect vivid stories, blunt honesty, and hard-won wisdom.
“When you young too, you trying to be cool, you trying to impress your homies... even if you don’t want to do it in your head you might be like this. But... damn, I gotta slide with my guys...” (21:48, King Yella)
“When I leave, I want my legacy to be here... That’s the purpose. That’s what God did.” (01:59, King Yella)
“Life gets so hard... people do things to cope and run and hide from reality.” (04:03, King Yella)
“You can’t just fight nobody. So whatever happens has to be lined up... They gonna kill you. It’s just like that. You gonna die.” (16:27, King Yella)
“I'm the chosen one. I'm different... For me to still be here... I beat the odds. All my homies dead.” (23:32, King Yella)
“People not from the streets, they don’t understand how it go... that’s your opinion." (40:46, King Yella)
"Adam’s platform is getting niggas indicted... He brings Black people, poverty... about more killing... It’s like a devilish like." (41:03–42:29, King Yella)
“You gotta forgive, you know... maturity, growth... I don’t feel like he was serious... I feel like he was trolling.” (51:43–52:32, King Yella)
On Fatherhood:
“When I leave, I want my legacy to be here... That’s the purpose.” (01:59, King Yella)
On Survival in Prison:
“You can’t just fight nobody... They gonna kill you. It’s just like that. You gonna die.” (16:27, King Yella)
On Escaping the Cycle:
“When we die, them streets still going to be there. The same streets you don’t even own...” (24:09, King Yella)
Critique of Adam22:
“That’s like a devilish like... He brings black people... about more killing... just always negativity.” (41:30, King Yella)
On Spirituality:
“I always thought ahead, I always been ahead of my time... I’m a Pisces, I see a lot of visions. I see ahead of time.” (21:52, King Yella)
King Yella brings an unguarded, reflective analysis of the streets, hip-hop culture, and American systems. He offers both cautionary tales and motivation for transformation, urging listeners to focus on legacy, learn from trauma, and act with integrity.
Where to find King Yella:
Family is everything. (53:46, Sean Kelly)