This City Has Only 2 Cops For 100,000 People (SHOCKING) | Brandon Tatum DSH #1079

Summary

Digital Social Hour: “This City Has Only 2 Cops For 100,000 People (SHOCKING)” | Episode #1079

In episode #1079 of Digital Social Hour, host Sean Kelly engages in a candid and unfiltered conversation with Officer Smith, providing an insider’s perspective on the dire state of policing in overburdened cities. This episode delves deep into the challenges faced by law enforcement, the horrifying incidents encountered on duty, and the broader socio-political implications of understaffed police departments. Through raw dialogue and impactful anecdotes, Sean and Officer Smith shed light on issues often overlooked by the public.

1. The Alarming Reality of Understaffed Police Departments

Officer Smith opens the discussion by highlighting the severe understaffing in Tucson, Arizona’s police force. With only two officers covering vast swathes of the city, the strain is palpable.

Officer Smith (01:12): “They make it look like they care about police officers and they act like they're doing something for police officers to the public at large. Because most people don't call 911, right? So most people are out here saying, oh look what they're doing, they're doing. But when you do call, like you experience, you get terrible service.”

Smith emphasizes that the lack of manpower leads to delayed responses and inadequate service, not due to the incompetence of the officers, but sheer numerical insufficiency.

Officer Smith (07:44): “If something happened, you screwed and you better hope the two officers are good.”

2. Gruesome Incidents and the toll on Officers

The conversation takes a harrowing turn as Officer Smith recounts some of the most disturbing scenes he has witnessed on the job. From a gruesome beheading incident to a decaying body stuck to a pillow, the anecdotes are both shocking and distressing.

Officer Smith (02:11): “One of the guys that I work with told me a story about a lady who had passed away. ... everything came off the arm.”

Officer Smith (03:25): “The worst one that I saw was a guy... his face was still stuck to the pillow. And the face came off onto the pillow.”

These stories underscore the emotional and psychological burden carried by officers, exacerbated by inadequate staffing and resources.

3. Mental Health Support for Police Officers

Officer Smith discusses the mental health support systems in place for police officers in Tucson, praising the availability but noting the stigma that prevents many from seeking help.

Officer Smith (04:02): “In Tucson, we had a really good support system. The Only objection is officers objecting to it. ... anytime you get into a critical incident, ... you have to take time off.”

He highlights the importance of administrative leave and accessible counseling services, which are crucial for officers dealing with traumatic experiences.

4. Manipulation of Crime Statistics and Political Implications

A significant portion of the discussion focuses on how crime statistics are often manipulated to present misleading narratives. Officer Smith criticizes the reclassification of racial data and the intentional underreporting of crimes to align with political agendas.

Officer Smith (12:11): “There was shootings, but it's not reported. And so that's why the stats can be sort of misleading. ... departments and city council members, they know how to manipulate the stats to get the results that they want.”

He argues that such manipulations hinder effective policy-making and obscure the true state of crime in communities.

5. Recent Events: The Nick Fuentes Incident

The conversation shifts to a recent event involving Nick Fuentes, where an armed individual targeted his residence, resulting in fatalities. Officer Smith provides his perspective on the incident, emphasizing the importance of law enforcement’s role in ensuring public safety.

Officer Smith (19:54): “I might have the report on that. ... I'm glad that the cops got to that guy.”

He also touches on the broader issue of doxxing and threats against public figures, advocating for the protection of free speech without endorsing violence.

6. Campus Debates and the Political Climate

Officer Smith shares his experiences participating in debates on university campuses, notably with Turning Point USA. He describes the hostile environments, particularly in cities like Seattle, and the challenges of fostering productive dialogue.

Officer Smith (20:07): “They were nuts, man. I wear the Trump hat because I want to spark discussion.”

He reflects on the increasing intolerance and how ideological indoctrination leads to heightened tensions and breakdowns in communication.

7. Political Polarization and Voter Participation in the Black Community

A critical discussion unfolds around the political shifts within the black community, voter suppression, and the potential consequences of declining voter engagement.

Officer Smith (26:33): “Black people still 90 some percent Democrat women. ... maybe 60% of black people ain't voting anyway.”

He warns of the political marginalization of the black community and the impact of immigration policies on demographic changes, urging increased political participation to safeguard their interests.

8. Reflections on Political Figures and Institutions

Officer Smith touches upon recent political developments, including the challenges faced by Congressman Mike Johnson. He underscores the complexities within Congress and the disconnected perceptions of public figures based on limited information.

Officer Smith (27:33): “... is he doing wrong? Is he doing right? What is the real pressure that Congress is feeling?”

He advocates for a deeper understanding of political dynamics beyond surface-level judgments, emphasizing the importance of firsthand experience for comprehensive insights.

Conclusion: The Need for Honest Dialogue and Understanding

Throughout the episode, Officer Smith consistently calls for genuine dialogue, informed by firsthand experiences rather than polarized rhetoric. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the multifaceted challenges faced by law enforcement and the broader societal impacts of political decisions on policing.

Officer Smith (30:05): “... talk to them about their relationship with God and inspire them to be better people individually and be able to change the country moving forward.”

Notable Quotes:

• Officer Smith (01:12): “They make it look like they care about police officers and they act like they're doing something for police officers to the public at large.”
• Officer Smith (02:11): “... everything came off the arm.”
• Officer Smith (04:02): “In Tucson, we had a really good support system.”
• Officer Smith (12:11): “... departments and city council members, they know how to manipulate the stats to get the results that they want.”
• Officer Smith (19:54): “I'm glad that the cops got to that guy.”
• Officer Smith (26:33): “Black people still 90 some percent Democrat women.”
• Officer Smith (30:05): “... inspire them to be better people individually and be able to change the country moving forward.”

Conclusion

This episode of Digital Social Hour offers a stark and unfiltered look into the realities of policing in understaffed cities, the psychological toll on officers, and the intricate web of political influences that shape law enforcement. Officer Smith’s candid storytelling and critical insights provide listeners with a deeper understanding of the systemic issues plaguing modern policing and the urgent need for meaningful dialogue and reform.

Transcript

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[Officer Smith]

They make it look like they care about police officers and they act like they're doing something for police officers to the public at large. Because most people don't call 911, right? So most people are out here saying, oh look what they're doing, they're doing. But when you do call like you experience, you get terrible service. And it's not because the cops are terrible. It's because they don't have the manpower. And you a cop, call in sick, somebody gets hurt, you're done.

[Co-Host]

He is back. Three Pete.

[Officer Smith]

Oh yeah, man, I'm excited every time I come on the show.

[Co-Host]

Oh yeah, dude, we got to wrap up on those police stories. You had some crazy ones on the last one. Man, this guy's seen some stuff.

[Officer Smith]

Yeah, yeah, dude.

[Co-Host]

What else you seen?

[Officer Smith]

Well, you know what, I can say maybe some of the other crazy stories were a little more graphic. I think I told you about. Did I tell you about the guy on the freeway?

[Co-Host]

The beheading?

[Officer Smith]

Yeah, yeah, he lost his head. I gotta think of some other ones, man. Maybe. Maybe I'll think of em as we go, but I've seen a lot of crazy stuff, and I heard of a lot of crazy stuff. Well, I'll tell you one that I heard of.

[Co-Host]

Okay.

[Officer Smith]

I wasn't there to experience this one, but one of the guys that I work with told me a story about a lady who had passed away. And she had passed away. I don't know, maybe like she was gone for about a month or so. Nobody knew she was in there. She fell in between the crease of the bed and the wall. And when he went to grab her, to pick her out of the side of the wall, I mean, like a chicken wing. The bone, I mean, the meat, muscle, everything came off the arm.

[Co-Host]

Wow, that is nuts. So the body must have been there for months.

[Officer Smith]

It was there for. It was probably over a month. It was horrible.

[Co-Host]

Jeez.

[Officer Smith]

The worst one that I saw was a guy, unfortunately, he was stepping over. You could tell he was stepping over his table to try to step over the table to get on the couch. And he must have had a heart attack right there. One leg on the table, one leg on the floor, face in the couch. And he was green. He had a blister on his back that was about this big, Smelled horrific. And the craziest part of this is that when we tried to extract him from the couch because we had to get his body up, his face was still stuck to the pillow. And the face came off onto the pillow. So all his skin had decayed onto that pillow. And when we pulled it off, it pulled his face off with the. Oh, my God. With the pillow.

[Co-Host]

And the bodies are heavier when they're dead. And they shit the pillow, they glowed.

[Officer Smith]

And like, with that guy, he had. I found out that blood and urine don't mix. So he was bleeding, obviously, because he was sitting there. He was pooling blood and urine.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

And so all over the floor to get to his body, you had to step. And blood and urine.

[Co-Host]

Oh, my gosh.

[Officer Smith]

It was. It was horrific, man. And they popped too, because they. They get bloated.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

And if you. If they're old enough and their skin is very thin, if you go to move them the wrong way, you can bust the skin and then they fluid and.

[Co-Host]

Oh, my gosh.

[Officer Smith]

Absolutely horrific. So cops don't get paid enough. Yeah.

[Co-Host]

Just so you know, what's the mental support that is provided to police officers when they do stuff like this?

[Officer Smith]

In Tucson, we had a really good support system. The Only objection is officers objecting to it. Right. If they feel like it's stigmatized to go get help. But anytime you're in a critical incident, whether it's a shooting and a shooting, you have to take time off. They make you take time off. That's why when you see shootings online and they say the cop is on administrative leave. Administrative leave doesn't mean that you're guilty. Administrative leave is a. Is a process in which you could go home and kind of recover from a traumatic incident.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

So that was standardized. And then on our department, anytime you had any conflict whatsoever, anytime, any day, you could call the mental health line. And they were specifically hired to help police officers. So at any point you can go to counseling about anything, personal life or professional life.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Co-Host]

How overworked were you? Because when I called the cops in la, they wouldn't come for eight hours.

[Officer Smith]

Oh, yeah. It's insane. It's insane. What happens is police officers so underfunded, understaffed, that if you don't call for absolute emergency, they're not going to. They can't show up. When I would go to work, I work 21 07, which is 9 to 7 in the morning. When I would go to work, we would have 40 calls holding for service on our board. 40. And that's grandma that's been waiting 10 hours after somebody burglarized her house. And what happens is we build, it builds up. We only go to level one, level twos. And that's mean a person with a gun, a shooting, a fatality and things like that. So when you in a busy city and you're understaffed, that's what happens. And it's unfortunate because before I left the police department, we had a young lady that got raped.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

And we. She waited for seven hours. What cops still didn't show up. Her dad drove from San Diego to come get her and we hadn't showed up yet. And he just took her back home to San Diego. Didn't even meet with officers about the report.

[Co-Host]

Damn.

[Officer Smith]

So it got horrific in Tucson, Arizona at some height at one point when I was there.

[Co-Host]

You think that's been fixed by now?

[Listener]

No, no.

[Officer Smith]

It's still leftist out there. They're so Progressive.

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[Officer Smith]

Look like they care about police officers and they act like they're doing something for police officers to the public at large. Because most people don't call 911, right? So most people are out here saying oh look what they're doing. They're doing a But when you do call like you experienced, you get terrible service. And it's not because the cops are terrible, it's because they don't have the manpower and you, a cop call in sick, somebody gets hurt, you're done. We would go to work and the people in Tucson probably would not like to know that this is true. But every person who pays taxes should be asking their police officers who's on duty? I need an audit of who's on duty at what timeframe? I would go on from 21 to 07 we had a swing shift from 17 to 03. So from 5 to 3 o'clock in the morning and then we came home from 9 to 7 in the morning. There were times where we deployed two officers to cover from 3 o'clock in the morning to 7 in the morning. Two officers in the entire west side of Tucson.

[Listener]

Wow.

[Officer Smith]

If something happened, you screwed and you better hope the two officers are good.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

Because you're going to get a rookie and somebody else you can be screwed. So the public should be aware of how policing really is going in their city. Yeah, some cities do well, but this is the cities that are not performing.

[Listener]

Right.

[Co-Host]

What's the process if someone's living in a city and they want to audit their local police if they're being efficient?

[Officer Smith]

Well, you can have a four year request, you can request data, you can request case reports and different things like that.

[Co-Host]

Got it.

[Officer Smith]

And they have to disclose certain things to you. Now I'm not familiar because I've never done it. I don't know what the police department can actually withhold from your knowledge. But the police department and dealings and all of this is public record. Their budget is public record. The way they spend is all public record. So you can request the public records of what the police department is doing and that's quasi and audit. If you want to get a one to one experience on the police department you can do a ride along so you can go in, sign up as long as you're not a felon. I wouldn't sign up if you got warrants because they will let you do the ride along and then arrest you, right? Oh yeah, they will, they'll let you come in there, hey, how you doing? I'll put your hands behind your back so make sure you're clean before you go in there. But then you'll be able to ride with a police officer for an entire shift and you'll be to see firsthand radio calls, calls for service, how they deal with the public, how many officers are out there or not out there, how violent your city is. Yeah, because most people don't know how violent their city is because you don't experience.

[Co-Host]

Right.

[Officer Smith]

But people are getting raped. People are getting, I mean you, you name it. These things are happening to people on a day to day basis and the people who know about it are the police officers and not necessarily the citizens who are asleep at night when all this stuff is going on.

[Co-Host]

Did you get a lot of angry police officers Messaging you when the FBI lied about the crime. Crime statistics, yeah.

[Officer Smith]

Not a lot hit me up, but a lot of people I'm assuming were upset about it.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

One reason is because the administration is in office right now, thank God, that they're not going to continue. But they did it for political purposes. It wasn't an accident. It's not like they accidentally got the wrong stats. They knew and I honestly believe they coordinated with certain jurisdictions to not report the stats. So they can say crime is down, everything is better. When the people did not feel that people knew that the crime was up. You could feel it. The migrants and all this stuff, the illegal aliens, people can feel it. So then when the report came out, Donald Trump was right in the debate that he had mentioned it then people can feel, you know, they kind of align with what they really were experiencing and that is that the crime was out of control. And crime stats are often manipulated because crime happens and if you don't report it, it didn't happen.

[Co-Host]

Oh, true.

[Officer Smith]

So a lot of people who get their car broke into two, they're like, I'm not going to wait 10 hours for a cop to get here, man. I'm, I just take that as a loss. Yeah, your car still got broken into. But that, that doesn't show up in the stats.

[Co-Host]

Good point.

[Officer Smith]

People that get abused, people that get in assaults, shootouts. Nobody snitching. No. No victim. No.

[Co-Host]

Especially in certain neighborhoods, they're not snitching.

[Officer Smith]

They ain't snitching. So there was shootings, but it's not reported. And so that's why the stats can be sort of misleading. And departments and city council members, they know how to manipulate the stats to get the results that they want, which are, you know, in my opinion, should be criminal. Right.

[Co-Host]

That's a good point though. So the stats aren't as bad as what they actually are, is what you're saying.

[Officer Smith]

Yeah, either or. Right. Sometimes they're better. Sometimes the stats display something that's worse because it's not in context.

[Listener]

Right.

[Officer Smith]

And then there's cases where it act, it shows as if it's better, but it's much worse. Yeah, it's a much bigger problem. Especially the way they reclassify. They used to have race on a classification. I don't know how they do it now. I don't know how they count it now, but I know how they do it. It used to be white, black, Asian, Hispanic. Now it's non white, Hispanic or non white, non Hispanic or black, non Hispanic. And So I don't know how what concoction that they're putting together that can say what they wanted to say. Because they can say a person is white, Hispanic, or a person is white, non Hispanic. What does that even mean?

[Listener]

Right.

[Officer Smith]

And they can put numbers. If you ever look up statistical data and you see the other section, that's the ambiguous nature of the way they calculate the numbers. So they'll have a white section, a black section, a Hispanic, you always got to look at the other. And that other could be indicative of an overinflated number of one of those groups that they did not calculate properly because they do not want it to show up. You look at crime statistics, just say aggravated assault, you see black, white, you see other. You look at crime statistics with gun violence, you'll see handguns, AR15s and then you go down the list is other weapons. They have a way of manipulating the way they count the stats.

[Listener]

Right.

[Officer Smith]

To make other the overflow of the numbers so they can fix these numbers that you pay attention to.

[Co-Host]

So do you think the other should be removed from every poll?

[Officer Smith]

I think that they should. If they keep other there, they should be. They should have an asterisk next to what is other? When you're talking about race, what is another? Is that a person that did not identify or is that a person that identifies something that you. That's not in your box. But if you knew what they identified as, like, if you saw the actual form, you could predict that they may be a part of the black race, white race or Hispanic race. So what, what are you calculating in the other section is what I think that they should put on there? If not, they need to get rid of it.

[Co-Host]

100%. Some people are probably just filling it out because they don't want to tell what they are too.

[Officer Smith]

Right. 100%. You put they write in something. I mean, so it's wild.

[Co-Host]

How are police officers supposed to be handing handling the illegals? Like if they want to arrest an illegal person, like, what's the process with that?

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

And some of these liberal cities, and it happened to me in Tucson with SB 1070. What happens is the way it's supposed to work is that there's federal crimes. Local law enforcement should abide by assisting to detain people who commit federal crimes. Right. Robbing a bank is a federal crime. It's not a local crime. It's not a city code violation. It's a federal crime. Local law enforcement are involved in arresting, detaining, until FBI comes and does the full Investigation. We do it in that sense, if somebody commits an Internet crime. Internet crimes are federal because it's across jurisdictions. We still detain a person, we still take them into custody, and. And we notify federal authorities to come and finish the investigation. That's the way it should occur with illegal aliens. If you encounter a person who's undocumented or illegally in this country, we should detain them and let Border patrol ICE come and finish the investigation. But what's happening is that because of political reasons and the sanctuary status of some of these cities, they're telling police officers, you can't do anything about their status. You can't ask them, you can't do anything. If you get them and their only crime has been illegal, you got to release them.

[Co-Host]

Wow.

[Officer Smith]

And so if we had just changed that, we will see so many more arrests made and less crime by illegal aliens, and many of these people will be deported. There's over 1.4 million or so people with deportation orders.

[Co-Host]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

And that means that when Trump gets in office, he says he's going to deport. They're going to start with them.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

But it's almost impossible to do that if you don't have local law enforcement support.

[Listener]

Right.

[Officer Smith]

So the left, by and large, they're disempowering police officers to act, to actively go after people who should be held accountable on a federal level.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Co-Host]

Are you worried that with these deportations, it could get ugly? They could fight back with violence?

[Officer Smith]

I don't think so.

[Co-Host]

You think they'll go?

[Officer Smith]

I think there's a big delineation between illegal criminals and mom and them just trying to get a, you know, have a better life.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

People who are heavily involved in criminal activity are separate, in my opinion, from those people.

[Co-Host]

Right.

[Officer Smith]

So once we go after them, these people are habitually committing crimes. These people have criminal records. We could go after them methodically, arrest them and deport them in a very easy way. And I would argue that's the minority of the illegal. I mean, of people that are in this country illegally, is the criminal element. So I don't think you're gonna see a big backlash.

[Co-Host]

Okay.

[Officer Smith]

The people, if they're honest and they tell the truth, that we're not gonna deport every single person that's here illegally. They will be excited that you're getting rid of people who don't wanna be here, who's committing crimes and embarrassing the reputation of people who just wanna have a better life.

[Co-Host]

Agreed. Yeah. I think that distinction's important.

[Listener]

Right.

[Co-Host]

You don't wanna group everyone into one category, man.

[Officer Smith]

Being conservative. Sometimes conservatives go a little bit overboard with this. Yeah, you shouldn country illegally, but at some point we have to differentiate between the two. There's people here that just want to have access to the American dream like anybody else. They either got tricked or lied to on how to get here and that's why they came illegally instead of through a port of entry.

[Listener]

Right.

[Officer Smith]

If. If given the opportunity and we didn't have so many illegal people coming to this country, they probably would have an opportunity given the fact that we do allow the most immigrants in our country to any country in the world every year, over a million. So I think that those good hard working people would have an opportunity to be citizens if we wouldn't let these criminals and all these other people come into our country. I really think we do need to make that distinction though, because you begin to create a broad brush and alienate certain people that are actually benefiting America to a certain degree.

[Co-Host]

Agreed. Did you see what happened to Nick Fuentes yesterday?

[Officer Smith]

No, I didn't.

[Co-Host]

You didn't see this?

[Officer Smith]

No, man.

[Co-Host]

Someone pulled up to his house with a gun.

[Officer Smith]

Really?

[Co-Host]

Yeah, the guy ended up dying. The police shot him.

[Officer Smith]

Oh, that's crazy.

[Co-Host]

Yeah, because he got doxxed.

[Officer Smith]

Yeah.

[Co-Host]

So his address got leaked by some hater. Scary time.

[Officer Smith]

Well, good that the cops were there to support him. I'm not a big Nick Fuentes fan, but I don't think people should be doxed and killed because of their political beliefs. Agreed. You're free to say whatever you want. Yeah, Nick Fuentes says all kind of stuff I don't agree with, but he can say what he want. I don't care. If I don't care enough, then I should combat what he said say in debate. I don't believe in that counseling council culture or whatever the case may be, which I think that has happened to Nick Fuentes. Now, in a private setting, you know, if you accompany, you don't want any association with him. That's different. But on the public sphere, on social media, Nick Fuentes should be able to say whatever he want to say and represent whatever he want. I don't care if it's racist or not. I don't care if he say he don't want no black people on planet Earth, that's fine, you should be able to say that. But in the intellectual debate, I should be able to challenge you that way instead of wanting you to get counsel. So I. I'm glad that he didn't get killed over something like this.

[Co-Host]

He didn't get killed, but the guy killed two people and two dogs on the way to his house.

[Officer Smith]

I didn't hear about this.

[Co-Host]

Yeah, this happened yesterday.

[Officer Smith]

So this guy was just shooting people down the street, or the shot people related to Nick.

[Co-Host]

People in a separate incident, and then went to Nick's house.

[Officer Smith]

Oh, so this guy was on a rampage.

[Co-Host]

Yeah, but he was targeting Nick.

[Officer Smith]

That's crazy.

[Co-Host]

I don't know.

[Officer Smith]

Were any people associated with Nick?

[Co-Host]

No, I think they were just two people. But he killed two of his neighbor dogs when he was running away. So two innocent dogs died.

[Officer Smith]

Well, I'm. Yeah, that's very sad that somebody got killed. I'm glad that Nick didn't. Unfortunately, these other people got killed.

[Co-Host]

You got it on his video, on the. On the front door.

[Officer Smith]

Insane, dude. I didn't even see that.

[Co-Host]

Scary, man.

[Officer Smith]

I might have the report on that.

[Co-Host]

Yeah.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Co-Host]

Looking at that, man. That's not cool, though. That's a whole nother level.

[Officer Smith]

A whole nother level, man. And I'm glad that the cops got to that guy.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

Because I'm not trying to be. You deserve what you get if you go to try to kill somebody.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

So him losing his life at the hands of the police officers, that's what you get.

[Co-Host]

Absolutely. You've been doing any debates lately?

[Officer Smith]

No, I've been on campus a little bit, you know, for Turning Point usa, who runs this whole thing. Yeah, I go to campus every now and again, and they're. They're fun.

[Co-Host]

Which campus did you go to recently?

[Officer Smith]

Washington. University of Washington.

[Co-Host]

Are you seeing them get better as you've been going to more and more? The students?

[Officer Smith]

No. Oh, really?

[Co-Host]

I love the honesty, y'all.

[Officer Smith]

Oh, honestly, they crazier and crazier, man. Well, it depends on what city you go to, right?

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

Go to Seattle. They're nuts, man. I mean, I wear the Trump hat because I want to spark discussion.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

Most universities, like, when I went to Rucker, that's where I.

[Co-Host]

Like Rutgers.

[Officer Smith]

Yeah. I went to Rucker in Jersey. They were. Okay. Mixed. Mixed feelings. I forget the other place that I went. Memphis, University of Memphis. People didn't say nothing to me. I get to my booth, people come and debate in Washington. The moment I get out of the car, somebody said, f. Donald Trump stuck a middle finger up at me. They were. Every single person you pass is looking at you like, I can't believe he has a Trump hat on and he's black. I mean, I feel the hatred in Seattle more than anywhere else in the Country. So it's different. The group of people that come to these debates are a mixed bag. Right. You have the supporters of Turning Point that know that. They love to hear it.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

But then you have people who are crazy, but you have people who are crazy enough to ask a question, and that's. That's the difference. So I think that the campus is probably far worse than what we get with somebody knowing that it's there and having enough courage to actually put themselves in front of a camera and ask a question.

[Listener]

Right.

[Co-Host]

I didn't know Seattle was that bad. Damn. How's everybody there?

[Officer Smith]

It's insane. And there's certain places you go in the country and you. You can feel it in the air.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

That they're just soy drinking. Just crazy people that just are so intolerant.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

If somebody had a Kamala hat. I don't like Kamala Harris whatsoever.

[Co-Host]

I've never seen a Kamala hat.

[Officer Smith]

But if somebody wore it, I don't care. I wouldn't stick the middle finger up at you. I saw. I saw a lady today driving slow in the doggone HOV lane, which drives me crazy. I wish. I wish that I can run them off the road.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

And she had a Kamala Harris thing. I'm like, oh, yeah, typical. But I'm not going to stick a finger somebody or cut somebody out or get mad at somebody. They're not invited to my dinner at my house. I will never do that. I couldn't care less. You can believe who you want to believe. If you that silly to follow her, then that's on you.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

I'm not going to hurt anybody. They don't. They don't feel the same about us. They will kill me if they could. Many of them will try to fight me, but look at me. I don't think they really want to do that.

[Co-Host]

They don't want the smoke.

[Officer Smith]

They don't want that smoke. But they'll fight somebody else. I see them flipping tables over at Turning Point, throwing water on people.

[Co-Host]

I've seen that.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

It won't happen while I'm there, but that's how they do it.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Co-Host]

Do you think a part of that is they're being programmed to believe that way?

[Officer Smith]

100%, man. They get indoctrinated with hatred and they become entitled to where I'm more virtuous than the next person because I do these things that I've been indoctrinated to do, and it creates hatred. And I'll say this. The ungodliness of many of these people. Not everybody is bad. They don't believe in God. But I'm saying just the ungodliness of some of these people caused them to hate other people. More so than saying, I'm tolerant. I love you. Although we disagree because MAGA supporters and stuff. They're not racist Nazis and stuff that they say they are. But it's the intolerance and ungodliness that's in their heart that makes them feel that they hate you. And also when you have a good argument and you can articulate yourself kind of like a child. When a child can communicate, they're not. Is. Is. Is vitriolic.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

But when they feel suppressed and they can't find the words, they throw a tantrum. And that's what people on the left do many of the times. They can't beat you with an argument because they know their argument is wrong. They haven't thought it through.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

And the embarrassment that they feel. And they can't fight you any other way. So they rather just lash out.

[Co-Host]

Facts. Usually when they're projecting hate, they're dealing with some internal stuff too.

[Officer Smith]

It's what happens. It hurts. The truth will hurt you. Because they have to contend with, is my whole life a lie. Right. You go and tell a person, you say America is not racist, and that's been their worldview. Then they have to say, is my mama a liar, My daddy a liar, My professor, I love a liar. Have I been lying to other people? I've been pitching this agenda. I can't accept it. I can't accept it. You a liar, you'll sell out to your people. So instead of them internalizing and saying maybe, just maybe, this guy got a point. They have to lash out. But when they get to the level of maturity enough to say, let me think about it. I think that's when many people begin to be more conservative. Right.

[Co-Host]

You saw that this election. I've never seen so many people flip in one election 100%.

[Officer Smith]

And it's because you can only get exposed to the truth so much and denied before it becomes so apparent that you cannot deny it.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

Right. You can deny it when it's just on paper. You can deny it when it's a federal election. You can't deny it when your paycheck is looking skinny, when you can't go to the grocery store and you're like, I gotta choose between getting meat and cheese or just cheese by itself. You know, you can't deny that. And once you get to that point and it Start affecting you personally, people begin to wake up.

[Co-Host]

Absolutely. And you saw that and they weren't addressing it. The other side.

[Listener]

Right.

[Co-Host]

They skipped over the whole conversation about inflation and economics.

[Officer Smith]

They thought they could win on emotionalism, not logic. I'll tell you, you can only go so far before logic begin to kick in. You can always make that emotional appeal. Oh, the white man is against you. Oh. Black people feel. They start invoking historical segregation and slavery in the. In black people, and that makes them upset. You can't do that cultural stuff or the emotional stuff only for so long before people begin to say, that's not what I really see, that's not what I really feel. And that's not what's most important to me.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Co-Host]

I think the black men shifted the most Right. Out of the most.

[Officer Smith]

And I'm still quasi disappointed that it wasn't a greater number.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Co-Host]

It was 70%. Something like that.

[Officer Smith]

Yeah, something like that. I mean, we're still disproportionate and unbalanced. Every other group has a balance. Hispanics, white, Asian. It's like 40, 48, 51, somebody somewhere around there. I mean, black people still 90 some percent Democrat women.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

And then the men kind of moved a little bit. But I will say it's not indicative of the black community in totality because not everybody votes.

[Co-Host]

Right.

[Officer Smith]

The problem is probably 60% of black people ain't voting anyway.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

So you can argue that maybe 60% of black people out of the 60%, maybe majority of them are conservative. They just don't vote.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

So once we get people more active, we'll be able to see a more raw number. And I'm hoping that black people wake up because if they don't, and I think I said this on our last thing, they will be extinct politically. Once illegal aliens come in this country and they get amnesty or they get citizenship, their population number is going to supersede black people by far.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

Black people historically have been the majority minority, meaning we've been the most important minority group in the country.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

Now we're going to move below Hispanic and you could vote 100% for your candidate of your choice, but you're not going to never win an election.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Co-Host]

Last question. You think Mike Johnson will be able to come back from this? Who? Congressman Johnson from the omnibus thing.

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

I don't know, man. I. I would have to be on Capitol Hill and sit in these meetings to get a real glimpse of what's really going on. Right. Because we get all the noise from here.

[Listener]

Right.

[Officer Smith]

They loved him, they hated him last week, you know, and so you're like, is he doing wrong? Is he doing right? What is the real pressure that Congress is, is feeling? It seems very clear to me that we should not spend more money, we should not shut the government down. But why do Republicans and Democrats get into this gridlocked position all the time?

[Listener]

Yeah.

[Officer Smith]

So what I would say is I don't want to jump the gun and be like, oh, yeah, we're going to cancel him. And they never do because they were trying to not have him as a Speaker of the House anyway, but then he's in now and they loved him. Right. At first, I don't think he was very popular, but now Trump loves him and everybody else. I think in order for a person to understand fully, you can have an opinion, you can have a feeling about it. In order to understand fully, you have to be in Congress yourself and experience what those conversations are. Experience what's really on the line experience. Can you really come to a happy medium or will. Will they never.

[Co-Host]

Yeah, I like that take, because some people will see a clip of someone from a podcast and then judge them based off that 20 second clip.

[Officer Smith]

And I learned that being a police officer, people say, oh, the cops should have did this. And, and I'm like, if you actually was a cop for a day, you understand that all of this that you're saying makes absolutely no sense. That's not how this works. And I think that I'm just as ignorant in Congress. Yeah, I think a certain way, but I'm like, maybe I'll. Maybe I'm misconstrued. Maybe I'm, I'm flawed in this.

[Co-Host]

At least you have that awareness because there'll be a video of a cop arresting someone and then that cop will get a ton of heat on social media. But you don't know the full story leading up to what happened.

[Officer Smith]

Right. They know. Listen, man, I'm telling you, people don't even know the beginning of it. The way the calls come out, the way 911 dispatch, dispatch calls, all of that is so many things happening to lead to what you see in that video. There's training protocol, there's all of this stuff happens. 5,000 things happen before this short video. And I bet it's the same in Congress. There's 5,000 conversations that are happening. There's the government shutdown or not before we get to Mike Johnson criticism. So I think that it's good to have an opinion, but we have to understand that we're probably very novice in understanding this in totality.

[Co-Host]

Absolutely. What do you got next? What campuses are you hitting and what else are you working on?

[Officer Smith]

Well, I'm not sure. So wherever they send me, I'm gonna go and I'm and I'm gonna tear up the campus and when I say tear it up, I'm gonna give good dialogue and challenge people on the way they think. So I speak tomorrow at 120 here.

[Listener]

Yep.

[Officer Smith]

It's always fun. I try to be excited. I try to be motivational. I don't really care too much about politics. There's 50,000 people are going to talk to them about politics. I want to talk to them about their relationship with God and inspire them to be better people individually and be able to change the country moving forward. So I'm just trying to go where God called me, man, and just do the best that I can. So that's, that's my next step is.

[Co-Host]

That thanks for coming on again, dude. That was fun. My pleasure. See you guys.

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