“This Is an Experiment on Kids” | Billboard Chris | DSH #1890

Summary

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Digital Social Hour DSH #1890

Episode Title: “This Is an Experiment on Kids” | Billboard Chris
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Billboard Chris
Date: March 26, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode of Digital Social Hour, host Sean Kelly sits down with activist Billboard Chris, known for his outspoken campaign against medical gender transition treatments for minors. The conversation centers on Billboard Chris' belief that the rise in youth gender transitions represents a dangerous, unprecedented "experiment" on children, driven by social contagion and systemic failures in healthcare and education. The dialogue spans Chris’s global advocacy, his clashes with institutions, the sociopolitical dynamics at play, and his call to action for legislative change and public awareness.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The “Experiment on Kids” Thesis

• Opening Claim: Chris asserts that medical transition for children, particularly the use of puberty blockers, is “an experiment on kids” (00:16, 12:21).
  • Quote: “We don't even know because this has never been done. This is an experiment on kids.” (00:16, 12:21)
• Chris references both U.S. and European contexts, sharing that at the European Parliament he presented a clip of a leading transgender health official admitting to unknown risks (00:16, 12:21).

Billboard Chris' Activism

• Chris began his activism during the COVID pandemic, first targeting Canadian campuses, later expanding internationally (01:10).
• His mode: wearing a sign reading “children cannot consent to puberty blockers” while engaging in open, face-to-face dialogue (01:27).

Explaining the Problem: Child Medical Transition

• The episode explores the prevalence and process of medicalizing children under the trans umbrella:
  • Estimates: “Tens of thousands of kids have received this” (02:36); over 700,000 U.S. youth identifying as trans or non-binary (02:39); 300,000 diagnosed with gender dysphoria (02:48).
  • Diagnosis: Chris argues that gender dysphoria is largely self-diagnosed (03:03), with little clinical gatekeeping.
  • “If a child says they're trans, we just let them self diagnose themselves as having gender dysphoria.” (03:03)
• Chris highlights the lack of screening for underlying issues (autism, sexual abuse, comorbidities) prior to the prescription of cross-sex hormones and puberty blockers (03:25, 03:46).

Social Contagion Theory & the Role of Schools/Social Media

• Chris identifies a “social contagion” primarily affecting girls, attributing it to peer influence, online culture (social media, anime), and affirming school environments (05:10, 05:32).
  • “Social contagions traditionally affect girls. Puberty is hard...especially in today's age, where they're being sexualized at a young age.” (05:10, 05:19)
  • LGBTQ and “gender and sexuality” clubs at schools, which Chris likens to cult-like environments ("love bombing"), are blamed for furthering this trend (06:04, 06:15).

The Parental Rights Debate

• Chris claims schools often “socially transition” children without parental knowledge or consent and that, in some states, legal rights over children's psychological/medical care are removed at age 13 (06:38, 06:42).
  • “Parental rights are being abolished...the policy of all these teachers unions is to keep it secret from parents.” (06:15, 06:38)

Financial Incentives and Institutional Support

• Chris distinguishes between the grassroots, relatively underfunded nature of his campaign and the significant institutional/NGO backing of transgender-supportive policies (07:13).
• He promotes his own charity, the We Speak Truth Foundation, supporting his activism (07:47).

Direct Confrontation with Authorities

• Describes being arrested in Brussels while demonstrating peacefully; contends that authorities target peaceful dissenters rather than hostile crowds (08:09, 09:09, 09:22).

Medical Outcomes and Risks

• Chris alleges severe consequences for children placed on puberty blockers/cross-sex hormones, citing sexual dysfunction, sterilization, potential IQ reduction, bone density loss, and higher surgical complication rates (12:21, 13:47, 17:24).
  • "When I was at the European Parliament...he [transgender health official] admits that none of the boys started on puberty blockers...none of them as adults even have ever had an orgasm." (12:21)
  • "They're destroying sexual function. They're sterilizing these kids." (12:21)
• He contends the full long-term impacts are unknown due to the novelty of the practice (12:21, 17:24).

Critique of Gender Identity Concepts

• Chris questions the validity and definition of “transgender,” arguing that diagnoses rely on regressive stereotypes (13:47, 21:38).
  • "No one can define what a transgender child is...unless they resort to what are really sexist and regressive stereotypes." (13:47)
• He proposes: “there are two sexes, zero genders, and infinite personalities” (20:00).

Legislative & Legal Developments

• Chris notes legislative progress in the United States:
  • 28 states have banned or restricted child gender transition; the Trump administration and some members of Congress are actively working to further limit these practices (02:04, 22:33, 23:01).
  • The Protect Children's Innocence Act is highlighted, which would criminalize medical transition procedures for minors if passed (24:01, 24:13).

Detransitioners and Lived Experience

• Chris shares the story of an adult who detransitioned after hearing his reasoning, emphasizing the value of asking basic questions few can answer, such as “What does it mean to be transgender?” (21:25, 21:38).
  • "Asking those questions is powerful, like the Socratic method of debate..." (22:08)

Positive Messaging and Call to Action

• Chris stresses the importance of affirming children's inherent worth (“children are perfect just as they are, no drugs or scalpels needed”) rather than complaint-based rhetoric (24:57).
  • "Children are perfect just as they are. No drugs or scalpels needed. Make some noise, because we need to, as parents, leave a legacy for our children, and it can't be this." (24:57)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Medical Experimentation:

  • Billboard Chris, 00:16 / 12:21:
    “This is an experiment on kids... We don't even know because this has never been done.”

• On Parental Authority:

  • Billboard Chris, 06:38:
    “The policy of all these teachers unions is to keep it secret from parents.”

• On Social Influences:

  • Billboard Chris, 05:10:
    “It's a social contagion, and social contagions traditionally affect girls... They get celebrated, they get attention, they get that endorphin hit...”

• On Diagnosis Procedures:

  • Billboard Chris, 03:03:
    “If a child says they're trans, we just let them self diagnose themselves as having gender dysphoria.”

• On Hospital Criteria:

  • Billboard Chris, 11:29:
    “The gender clinicians at these children's hospitals... say things like a little girl who tries to pee standing up...this is a sign that your child is transgender and can be treated.”

• On Long-Term Risks:

  • Billboard Chris, 12:21:
    “None of the boys started on puberty blockers... as adults even have ever had an orgasm.”

• On the Meaning of Gender:

  • Billboard Chris, 20:00:
    “There are two sexes, zero genders, and infinite personalities.”

• On Policy Solutions:

  • Billboard Chris, 24:01:
    “These people belong in prison... it would criminalize this and would send these doctors to prison.”

• On Positive Messaging:

  • Billboard Chris, 24:57:
    “Children are perfect just as they are. No drugs or scalpels needed.”

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Important Timestamps

• 00:00–03:25 – Introduction; the scope of Billboard Chris' activism and overview of gender medicine for youth
• 03:25–06:38 – Stats on gender dysphoria, comorbidities, and social contagion narratives
• 06:38–07:47 – School policy controversies and the claim of “parental rights” abolition
• 08:04–09:22 – Arrest in Brussels and encounter with authorities
• 12:21–14:27 – In-depth on medical consequences of puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones
• 15:01–17:18 – History of transgender medicine; origins of WPATH; linking to earlier sexual science history
• 17:24–20:00 – Irreversible consequences of blockers, surgical complications
• 21:25–22:33 – Detransitioners, logic-based advocacy, and questioning the concept of transgender identity
• 22:33–24:52 – Legislative efforts and what it will take to effect change in the U.S.
• 24:57–25:19 – Final call to action & promoting positive, affirming advocacy

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Takeaways

• Billboard Chris criticizes “gender-affirming care” for minors as an untested and dangerous social and medical experiment, with unknown and possibly irreversible long-term consequences.
• He links the phenomenon to social contagion, especially among adolescent girls, and raises concerns about parental oversight, institutional incentives, and scientific rigor.
• The conversation is forceful and unapologetic, featuring bold claims, direct engagement with policymakers and institutions, and a focus on legal and cultural pushback.
• Throughout, Chris champions a return to affirming children "as they are," and calls on listeners to get informed and use positive messaging in advocacy.

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For further reference and Chris’s resources:
wespeaktruth.com

Charity Mentioned:
We Speak Truth Foundation

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Summary prepared for listeners who want an in-depth, unfiltered account of this episode's critical discussions and arguments, capturing the language and tone of both host and guest.

Transcript

[Billboard Chris]

This is a sign that your child is transgender and can be treated. That's a verbatim quote from the leading pediatric hospital in the country, at Boston Children's Hospital.

[Podcast Host]

That is so crazy. I mean, just from a health point of view, these puberty blockers are probably taking a lot of years off these kids lives.

[Billboard Chris]

Yeah. And we don't even know because this has never been done. This is an experiment on kids. When I was at the European Parliament last week, I showed a clip of the president of the World Professional association for Transgender Health speaking where he admits that none of the boys school started on puberty blockers at what is called Tanner stage two, the beginning of puberty.

[Podcast Host]

Okay, guys, Billboard Chris here at America Fest, Final day. Man, you tired?

[Billboard Chris]

I have been tired. I'm a little sleep deprived, but I'm good right now. It's morning time.

[Podcast Host]

So I think today hit me the hardest because it's been what, four days now? Yeah, four days. It's like 7am There was a two hour line just to get in.

[Billboard Chris]

Yeah, it's mental.

[Podcast Host]

Crazy thing Charlie's built.

[Billboard Chris]

Amazing. The most important conservative organization in the world because it's tackling the problems where we need to because university campuses are ground zero for all of the major problems in the world.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Is that where you do a lot of your work? Universities?

[Billboard Chris]

Yeah. Before I'd even heard of Charlie Kirk or Turning Point. That's always been my goal. I've been going to university campuses since I was stuck in Canada during COVID and then as soon as I started coming in the US and now the world, university campuses are my favorite place to go.

[Podcast Host]

And for those that don't know, what are you trying to advocate for at these campuses?

[Billboard Chris]

So I. I'm known as Billboard Chris. I wear a sign that says children cannot consent to puberty blockers. And I just have conversations kicking it old school because we're supposed to talk to people face to face like you do.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that's how it should be. Right.

[Billboard Chris]

And I raise awareness about what I think is the greatest child abuse scandal in modern history. This business of trying to change the sex of children.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Billboard Chris]

And I've been at this for more than five years. I've had tens of thousands of conversations out on the street and at universities all over the world. Spoke at the un. I was just at the European Parliament last week. I was there earlier this year. Got thrown in jail in Brussels. So I get all sorts of adventures doing this. But we're winning. Some countries are putting a stop to this and especially in the United states.

[Podcast Host]

That's good.

[Billboard Chris]

28 states have banned this practice, and the Trump administration is doing everything they can to put a stop to this, even in the Democrat states.

[Podcast Host]

Do you lump birth control into this conversation or is that separate?

[Billboard Chris]

I don't lump it into this. That's a separate conversation. I'd say the birth rate in the world being as low as it is is of course, partly due to birth control, and that is presenting a problem. But that's a separate issue. Giving kids puberty blockers, cross sex hormones and surgeries because of this idea, they were born the wrong body. That's one of the most insane things human beings have ever done.

[Podcast Host]

How many kids are on that right now?

[Billboard Chris]

Tens of thousands of kids have received this.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Billboard Chris]

The most late, most recent data we have, more than 700,000 youth in the United States were identifying as trans or non binary.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Billboard Chris]

A few years ago, the New York Times reported over 300, 000 had been officially diagnosed with gender dysphoria.

[Podcast Host]

So that's a diagnosis. Wow.

[Billboard Chris]

But this is a social contagion primarily affecting girls.

[Podcast Host]

Gender dysphoria. How does that get diagnosed?

[Billboard Chris]

Great question. If. If a child says they're trans, we just let them self diagnose themselves as having gender dysphoria.

[Podcast Host]

So me and you could go in tomorrow and get diagnosed for it.

[Billboard Chris]

Yeah. If you went into a clinic and said you're actually a woman, they're gonna say, wonderful, we're so glad you discovered your gender identity. And they'll give you estrogen immediately.

[Podcast Host]

Any state in America, or is it just the liberal ones?

[Billboard Chris]

Well, for you as an adult, any state in America, for sure, women can walk into a Planned Parenthood as soon as they're 18 years old and walk out 20 minutes later with a testosterone prescription. They know nothing about them. They don't know if they've been sexually abused. They don't know if they have autism. They know nothing. And if you look at who shows up to these gender clinics and kids are my main focus.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Billboard Chris]

But we know from statistics from gender clinics that 70% of these kids have five or more other mental health comorbidities.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Billboard Chris]

Sexual abuse is prevalent in a majority cases. So is autism. Borderline personality disorder, eating disorders, abuse kids in foster care, kids who don't have a parent missing in the picture. Yeah, it's just the struggling kids. And now they're being told that, oh, it's really your gender identity that's the problem. And so now we're going to sterilize them with Puberty, blocking drugs, hormones send teenage girls into menopause, even do gender affirming hysterectomies at children's hospitals. This is crazy. It's a psychologically abusive message to tell a child they were born in the wrong body. What we should be saying, the actual affirming message is that they're beautiful just as they are, but they're told, oh, you don't conform to stereotypes. You were born wrong. Let's change your body. Little girl, little boy.

[Podcast Host]

Are more girls switching or more boys?

[Billboard Chris]

Way more girls.

[Podcast Host]

Way more girls.

[Billboard Chris]

And so gender dysphoria, it used to be called gender identity disorder. It used to affect almost exclusively boys, and it was maybe one out of 30, 40,000 kids. Today, it's three to one, girls versus boys going to these gender clinics. And of course, we got hundreds of thousands of kids struggling with this.

[Podcast Host]

Wow. I wonder why it's more girls.

[Billboard Chris]

It's a social contagion, and social contagions traditionally affect girls. You know, puberty's hard.

[Podcast Host]

It wasn't fun.

[Billboard Chris]

It's hard for girls, it's hard for boys, but I think it's mostly hard for girls, especially in today's age, where they're being sexualized at a young age. They got the Instagram models to follow. Social media makes it harder.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Billboard Chris]

And then they're on social media, or even they're playing video games, or even in the anime community, where this is talked about a lot. And they're struggling, and the solution for their struggles becomes, oh, you must be trans. And they get celebrated and they get attention. So they get that endorphin hit, and they go to school and they get taught that this is a thing. And they go to these LGBTQ clubs at school where they get love bombed, just like in a cult. And they come to believe that this is the source of their problems.

[Podcast Host]

This is all new to me. So, first of all, I didn't know about LGBTQ clubs. So that's at schools now.

[Billboard Chris]

Yeah. So they have. They'll call them the gender and sexuality clubs. They'll go on at lunchtime, they're going after school, and they might have pizza to lure kids in.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Billboard Chris]

And so you get these loner kids who have autism. They're already feeling different. They're already wondering why they don't fit in. And this is presented as a solution for them. And what's going on in schools, too, is parental rights are being abolished. They will transition a child at school with a new name and pronouns. We call this social transition. And the Policy of all these teachers unions is to keep it secret from parents.

[Podcast Host]

Wow. So schools have more power than parents now.

[Billboard Chris]

Yes. In Washington State, even medically, soon as the child turns 13, parents have no right to know what's going on with their own child. They don't need to have knowledge. They don't need to give consent for any psychological care after the age of 13. And so called gender affirming care, which is really sex rejecting harm that falls under that umbrella. So kids can get puberty blockers at 13 without the parents even knowing.

[Podcast Host]

That's insane. What's the link with anime? You mentioned anime earlier.

[Billboard Chris]

It's just popular in that community. Trans stuff is talked about a lot.

[Podcast Host]

There are some weird anime shows that do transy things.

[Billboard Chris]

Yeah. All throughout the media and publishing sector. If you make a program with an allegory to trans or a straight up message about trans, or you write a book about it, it's going to get published. You're going to get the money for it. Because there's so much money flowing into every sector of society. Whereas people like myself trying to tell the actual truth about this, I have a ton of support from people on the street. A ton of people love what I'm doing. But when it comes to financial support, there's not a whole lot of that. Whereas all the money from all these NGOs flows into the LGBTQ costs.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Well, you launched a charity now, right?

[Billboard Chris]

I did, yeah. It's called the We Speak Truth foundation. People go to wespeak truth.com support me if they want, they'll get a tax deduction in America. Yeah, but that's just to help me do more stuff all over the globe.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Billboard Chris]

We have to tackle this everywhere. You can't just try to fix it in America because every house has a thousand lines of communication coming into it by the Internet. So we have to fix this everywhere.

[Podcast Host]

That's nuts. Your. Your recent arrest, what happened?

[Billboard Chris]

So I was speaking at the European Parliament with some parliamentarians.

[Podcast Host]

You got invited to speak there?

[Billboard Chris]

I got invited to speak there. And I was just. Just there last week as well. But in my spare time, I went out on the street wearing my signs.

[Podcast Host]

Yep.

[Billboard Chris]

And a spokesperson for the Alliance Defending Freedom was with me as well. They represent people when their rights are violated. And they had helped me win a lawsuit against the Australian government earlier this year. So we were just talking to people on the streets of Brussels and we called the police because we were being so abused and harassed, especially Lois, the woman with me. And so police showed up 14 of them. Four police vans. They formed a circle around us to keep the mob at bay and decided we were the problem. I recorded all of it. People can watch this on YouTube. Go to Billboard, Chris. But they ordered us to take our signs off and leave. And I refused because freedom of expression is supposed to be guaranteed in the European Union. Union, yeah. And so they arrested us, put us in jail, strip search, held us for a few hours, then released us. No charge, no ticket.

[Podcast Host]

They just wanted to make a statement.

[Billboard Chris]

It. It's what has happened to me a few times. It's happened to me in Vancouver. I've gone to jail a couple times. Instead of dealing with the angry mob and the antifa people, they get rid of the peaceful people. It's easier for them.

[Podcast Host]

Crazy.

[Billboard Chris]

So I'm taking legal action against various Belgian authorities now as well.

[Podcast Host]

You think Europe has bigger problems than to arrest you? With all the immigration issues right now and all the terrorism.

[Billboard Chris]

Arresting a guy who's whose message is what children cannot consent to puberty blockers. Children should not be chemically castrated with what is a prostate cancer drug, a drug for endometriosis, for uterine fibroids, a drug given to this day to pedophiles to chemically castrate them before they're eligible for parole in certain states and countries. But we give this to kids off label because it happens to stop their bodies from developing. We're stopping the development of children. And they call this love crazy. It's totally insane. And I'm peaceful. I know my stuff. I know all the science. We've got systematic reviews that have been done by pediatric bodies all across the world that support my message. But the left want to conflate TQ with lgb and these are different things. This is actually the most homophobic movement in history. Cuz historically, if you look at all the data, and even now recently, all the data from gender clinics shows that a lot of these kids would just grow up to be gay.

[Podcast Host]

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[Billboard Chris]

So an effeminate little boy is just an effeminate boy? If he doesn't want to play sports with the other boys, if he wants to read books, maybe cook in the kitchen with mom, well, he's a boy. And that's the message we should be sending. And a girl who hates wearing dresses, who wants to climb trees and lay in the dirt, she's a beautiful girl. But the gender clinicians at these children's hospitals, the doctors, they say things like a little girl who tries to pee standing up or a boy, he's sitting down or trying on a sibling's clothing or playing with opposite gender toys. This is a sign that your child is transgender and can be treated. That's a verbatim quote from the leading pediatric hospital in the country, Boston Children's Hospital.

[Podcast Host]

That is so crazy. I mean, just from a health point of view, these puberty blockers are probably taking a lot of years off these kids lives.

[Billboard Chris]

Yeah. And we don't even know because this has never been done. This is an experiment on kids. When I was at the European Parliament last week, I showed a clip of the president of the World Professional association for Transgender Health speaking, where he admits that none of the boys started on puberty blockers at what is called Tanner Stage two, the beginning of puberty. None of them, as adults even have ever had an orgasm. What, so they're destroying their sexual function? They're sterilizing these kids? We have some data that shows it's lowering their iq.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Billboard Chris]

When you go into puberty and you produce your natural hormones, testosterone or estrogen for girls, those hormones are flooding every cell in your body. It's affecting your brain development. We're playing God with children's bodies. And if you don't believe in God, that's fine. This ideology is then teaching that evolution has failed. A billion years of the natural process, of the process of natural selection has failed. And now we need a pharmaceutical company to help kids be their true selves. We have a billion biological processes going on in our body every day. And now we're messing with it with this experiment because kids now believe that they were born in the wrong body, which nobody can even define, by the way. No one can define what a transgender child is. Ask them, the people watching at home. Ask anybody. What does it mean for a girl to be a boy? Nobody can tell you unless they resort to what are really sexist and regressive stereotypes. That's all this comes down to.

[Podcast Host]

I don't see the upside of this. You said you give up orgasms too?

[Billboard Chris]

Yes, they have said that. The boys in particular. None of them have ever been able to have an orgasm. So he said that in a video. He said that in email. I have this in leaked documents that have been released, known as the WPATH Files. You'll find these on my website, wespeaktruth.com so, yeah, they're just treating kids as guinea pigs. And in that same video, he says, what do we do? Intimacy is important in relationships. Do we delay the puberty blockers for a while? Do we take them off and let some puberty happen? We don't know. Wow. So they don't know what they're doing, but they keep doing it anyway.

[Podcast Host]

They 100% aren't telling the boys about that too.

[Billboard Chris]

Of course. And they also admit, of course, in all these videos they know that children cannot consent to this. They say it's like talking to a blank wall. You're Talking to a 10 year old about fertility.

[Podcast Host]

They don't even know what that is.

[Billboard Chris]

They don't even know what it is. They don't know if they're going to want to have kids. Most 20 year old women don't want to have kids. And then when they're 30, it's give me kids or give me a divorce, because that's instinct. And having a family is one of the most important things in the world. And now they're taking that away from kids who can't even possibly understand what they're signing up for.

[Podcast Host]

You said earlier there was a world transgender health organization.

[Billboard Chris]

Yeah, the World Professional association for Transgender Health.

[Podcast Host]

Is that a worldwide thing?

[Billboard Chris]

It is. It sounds scientific, but it's really just an activist body. It used to be called the Harry Benjamin Society. Harry Benjamin is a guy going way back who was friends with Magnus Hirschfeld, who was a doctor. Not even a doctor, but he opened this institute for sexual science in the Weimar Republic in Berlin in the pre Nazi era. And that's where they performed the first surgeries on men trying to become women.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, wow.

[Billboard Chris]

And it was actually a Nazi doctor named Erwin Gorbandt, who later did hypothermia experiments on Jews at the Dachau concentration camp, killing many of them. But he performed the first surgeries at this clinic where they even tried to transplant a uterus into a man. That man died. They performed the first vaginoplasty there where they completely castrate you and form this neo vagina. But Harry Benjamin was friends with this guy, Magnus Hirschfeld, and him and a couple other sexologists and a psychiatrist professor of psychiatry named Robert Stoller from ucla. That's the man who first coined the term gender identity back in 1964. So he always had an interest in this and he formed what was known as the Harry Benjamin foundation, which then in the 90s changed its name to the World Professional association for Transgender Health. And really, when you look at the history of this, it was men who were unhappy that they could not pass as women as adults because they developed, they have a deep voice, they've got a big man's jaw, they've got big broad shoulders. And so because they weren't happy, they decided they should do this earlier on. Kids where they can block their puberty and keep them looking more neutral and then give them the opposite sexes hormones. So for these activists, it's all about passing better as the opposite sex. But this has taken off. This is a social contagion spread via social media. It's now pushed in schools, it's pushed by all these leftist governments supposed by the un, by the World Health Organization and all these nos with billions of dollars who when gay rights were won, all their attention went to trans rights. And they've been successful in conflating what is a mental illness. They've been conflating that with being same sex attracted. And they've turned a mental illness into a civil rights movement.

[Podcast Host]

So if someone's on these blockers for a while and they stop taking them, what does the body ever fully recover, how that happened?

[Billboard Chris]

So if they went on them for only three months, puberty would resume for sure. Some short term damage is done there, like bone demineralization happens. But in practice, these kids stay on the blockers because they've fully bought into this idea that they were born the wrong body, that these little girls are really boys. So they stay on the blockers for years. Then they go on to testosterone for girls, estrogen for boys, and those years of puberty where you go through that window of puberty, that window's gone. An 18 year old boy who was on puberty blockers from 12 to 18. He's not going to go through puberty now. That window of opportunity is gone. So he ends up with a micro penis for life, a high voice for life. And if they want to do the surgery where they do the neo vagina. Pardon my language, this gets graphic, because their genitalia never grew, and they have essentially a micropenis, what they do is they'll cut out some of the boy's colon or some of his peritoneum, the lining of his abdominal cavity, and they use that to line the interior of his neo vagina. And guess what? It smells like colon. Because it is colon. And of course, there are so many surgical complications. Some of these young men, they've even done this on. Boys have died. They've developed necrotizing fasciitis that they can't stop, and they've died. Others have such complications, like they develop what's known as a fistula, where there's a passageway from the urinary tract right into their neovagina. So they're leaking urine all the time. They get infections. This is Frankenstein science being presented as actual science.

[Podcast Host]

Disgusting.

[Billboard Chris]

They don't know what they're doing, and it's just child abuse. So we have to stop it.

[Podcast Host]

I've had a few adult actresses on the show, they say whenever they have sex with transgender. Smells horrible.

[Billboard Chris]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. And what you're describing makes sense now

[Billboard Chris]

to me if they didn't in that case. But either way, it's just a wound. It's a wound that they actually have to dilate for life. Anyone can look this up right after the surgery. They have to dilate it several times a day to prevent it from closing, because that's what wounds want to do. Wow. But even after several months or years, they are supposed to keep dilating for the rest of their life because it's a wound that's going to try to close up. Geez.

[Podcast Host]

How does that work? They have to, like, keep opening it up.

[Billboard Chris]

Yeah. There's a dilator. There's a thing they insert to keep it open and to prevent the wound from closing over.

[Podcast Host]

The body's trying to close it, and you're trying to keep it open. It's.

[Billboard Chris]

And why do they need that?

[Podcast Host]

I can't believe people are doing this. Said almost a million people.

[Billboard Chris]

If genitalia doesn't define your gender or your sex, why does. How does cutting them off affirm it? Right, that's the famous line. Yeah. And I don't like the word gender. The left has corrupted the word gender to Mean just a feeling. So I say there are two sexes, zero genders, and infinite personalities. That just sums us all up. And no matter how you are, you are beautiful just as you are. That's a positive message. Everyone can get behind. There's no right or wrong way to be a boy or girl. You are what you are. And if we left them alone, they would grow out of this. And we know this from historical studies as well, that boys that had severe gender dysphoria. The most recent study that was done before they started drugging these kids, 87.8% of them grew out of it when they went through puberty.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Billboard Chris]

Puberty was and is the cure. Now we block the cure.

[Podcast Host]

I mean, even myself, I was definitely as a kid a little feminine, I think, because I grew up in a single parent mother household. But why would I be put on medication for that?

[Billboard Chris]

Great. Whatever testosterone comes, we grow up, we change, we mature.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Billboard Chris]

This is a standard story.

[Podcast Host]

That's nuts. I didn't know about the micropenis thing too. So. Yeah, they. They can't.

[Billboard Chris]

Yeah. Their genitalia doesn't grow.

[Podcast Host]

They can't have a good size, and

[Billboard Chris]

they're not going to go through puberty in their 20s.

[Podcast Host]

So many losses to this.

[Billboard Chris]

Yeah. And you can read all the stories of these detransitioners or even people who have transitioned, but they freely admit to this.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Billboard Chris]

I was in the University of Washington a couple months ago, and a man, he's about 35 years old now, his name's Arie. He came to see me because he saw I was there, and he actually detransitioned after watching some of my conversations at Portland State.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Billboard Chris]

Because I was asking this simple question. What does it mean to be transgender? Nobody can answer it. We should be able to define these terms. We can define what being gay is. It's same sex attracted. What is being transgender? What does it mean for a girl to be a boy? I asked this to someone on the boardwalk, and she said, well, you know, girls like long hair and pink and nail polish. I said, okay, so if a boy likes nail polish, does that make him a girl? Of course. That's absurd.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Billboard Chris]

And they know it's absurd. But asking those questions is powerful, like the Socratic method of debate or just saying things they agree with, like what I've told you today, there's no right or wrong way to be. Even the most radical leftist agrees with that. So then why are we telling kids that they need to look more like the opposite sex and they need to Medicalize themselves, sterilize themselves. This is it. This is pure insanity is what it is.

[Podcast Host]

I know. Trump banned the woman and are the men and women's sports. Is there any other legal bills being proposed right now in Progress?

[Billboard Chris]

Yeah. So 28 states have banned this. Trump wrote an executive order right when he got into power back in January, pulling federal funding from any hospital doing this to kids. So even in places like California, Los Angeles, the Children's Hospital of Los Angeles has now shut down their gender clinic. And that was the busiest clinic in the country. That doctor has now moved up north to San Francisco. And she's still doing it.

[Podcast Host]

Of course she did.

[Billboard Chris]

She's being sued by some people. We have a lot of lawsuits flying. The center for Medicaid is now pulling funding. The FTC is looking into fraudulent and deceptive trade practices because to get around the bands instead of coding it for insurance purposes as gender dysphoria, they'll say that the child has an endocrine disorder. And so then they get the blockers or the hormones that way. Or instead of calling it a double mastectomy on a 14 year old girl, they'll say it's just a chest reduction. And so they're getting around it in various ways. So the fight continues. And of course, even if they pull Medicaid funding, which they are doing now, people are still paying privately. NGOs are still funding this. The left are determined to die on this hill. And quite frankly, we need to let them. And we need to keep messaging on this because in the last presidential election, this was the number one issue for swing voters. Even more than immigration and the economy.

[Podcast Host]

Do you imagine being a doctor mutilating these children and sleeping at night? It's just mind blowing.

[Billboard Chris]

These people belong in prison. I just can't believe that Marjorie Taylor Greene, after years, she just had her bill passed the House. It's called the Protect Children's Innocence act and it would criminalize this and would send these doctors to prison.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Billboard Chris]

So the Senate should pass that bill. Of course, in the Senate with a filibuster in place, you need 60 senators out of 100. And they'll never get any Democrats to go along with this. So if they're ever going to kill the filibuster, which they can just do very easily, it should be for this, because we should not be living in a civilized society where children are being sterilized and mutilated. So I hope the Senate gets its act together, kills the filibuster and passes this bill.

[Podcast Host]

I hope so. But who knows if those same NGOs are funding some people in Senate, right?

[Billboard Chris]

Yeah. And to be honest, I don't have a lot of confidence they're going to do it. Republicans, when they have power, they're not very keen to use it. Whereas if Democrats have power, of course they would. They will.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Well, Chris, this was great, man. We'll link your charity. Anything else people could do to support

[Billboard Chris]

you, just really learn about this. You know, it's not that hard to talk about this when you learn the positive messaging. If you complain about things all the time, people don't want to hear complaining. People don't want to push that messaging. But again, the positive messages are children are perfect just as they are. No drugs or scalpels needed. Make some noise, because we need to, as parents, leave a legacy for our children, and it can't be this.

[Podcast Host]

Thanks for what you're doing, man.

[Billboard Chris]

Thanks, brother.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Check them out, guys. Peace. I hope you guys are enjoying the show. Please don't forget to like and subscribe. It helps the show a lot with the algorithm. Thank you.