This Machine Uses Light to Heal Your Body...| Dr Richard Albright & Dr Phil Harrington | DSH #1893

Summary

Digital Social Hour: “This Machine Uses Light to Heal Your Body…”

Guests: Dr. Richard Albright & Dr. Phil Harrington (Sumus Medical Laser)
Host: Sean Kelly
Episode: DSH #1893
Date: March 30, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Sean Kelly welcomes Dr. Richard Albright and Dr. Phil Harrington, pioneers in medical laser technology from Sumus Medical Laser. The conversation dives deep into the development and application of an innovative whole-body laser pod, which uses light to stimulate cellular regeneration and support proactive health optimization. The episode explores the science behind photobiomodulation, the transition from reactive to proactive healthcare, and the future of non-invasive light therapies.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introduction to Sumus Medical Laser and Their Technology

• Background:
  • Sumus has over 22 years’ experience in Class 4 laser therapy, historically focused on treating specific body parts with portable devices ([00:59]).
  • Demand from clients for a full-body solution inspired the development of the new “laser pod,” termed a “cellular regeneration suite” ([01:44]).
• Innovation:
  • The pod is the first fully synchronized, unattended Class 4 laser system designed for whole-body exposure ([01:44]).
  • The device utilizes seven wavelengths (e.g., 810nm, 1064nm) for selective tissue penetration ([01:48]).
  • Unlike LED panels, these lasers reach deeper tissue and offer true, systemic, coordinated treatment ([01:48]-[03:01]).

2. How the Laser Pod Works

• Patient Experience:
  • Users lie inside the pod for approximately 15 minutes for a whole-body treatment ([03:54]).
  • Treatments are quick enough for use before/after workouts or during daily routines ([03:54]-[04:09]).
• Outcomes & Feedback:
  • Reported benefits include reduced brain fog, improved athletic recovery, and overall competitive advantage ([03:15]-[03:43]).
  • Two years of in-office testing yielded “awesome” feedback and garnered pre-orders at conferences ([04:32]).
• Non-Invasiveness & Accessibility:
  • The pod is safe, unattended, and designed for both high-end consumers and B2B applications (e.g., medical offices, wellness centers) ([08:13]).
  • “It’s hitting the button, jumping in…and in and out in 15 minutes…makes it very safe.” — Dr. Albright [08:13]
• Adaptability:
  • Advanced sonar calibrates treatment dose for the user’s body size and skin color ([08:38]).
  • Integrated temperature monitoring for safety ([08:51]).

3. Mechanisms & Scientific Foundations

• Mitochondrial Function & Energy:
  • The key to photobiomodulation is flooding cells with optimal light frequencies to recharge mitochondria, supporting ATP production, reducing oxidative stress, and boosting repair mechanisms ([05:17]-[06:16]).
  • “Biology responds to energy. And what the laser pod does is it floods the cells with those light frequencies that they need to recharge and regenerate.” — Dr. Harrington [05:17]
• Systemic Health Impacts:
  • Benefits are not exclusive to athletes; everyday people afflicted by EMF, pollution, poor diet, or stress can also benefit ([06:16]-[06:36]).
• Zeta Potential & Blood Flow:
  • The pod helps restore the “zeta potential” of blood, improving red blood cell flow and oxygen/nutrient delivery ([14:16], [14:52]).
  • “Exposure to the right frequencies, the right wavelengths of light restores that zeta potential. And that’s one way that this laser pod is going to restore health.” — Dr. Harrington [14:52]
  • Potential for supporting sexual health due to improved blood flow and nitric oxide release ([15:10]-[15:24]).
• AI and Diagnostics:
  • The pod leverages AI for diagnostic feedback, including body composition, posture, and metabolic health ([00:00], [20:11]-[20:37]).
  • “You can use that as your initial start before even getting in the pod, and then you can see the changes...” — Dr. Albright [00:00], [20:37]

4. Healthcare Paradigm Shift: Proactive Optimization

• From Reactive to Proactive:
  • The pod represents a move from symptom management to system optimization and longevity ([07:01]).
  • “Now you’re moving from a symptom management to a system optimization. Yes. Which we think is the future of medicine.” — Dr. Albright [11:27]
• Empowering Physicians and Patients:
  • Automated, unattended treatments free up practitioner time and generate additional practice revenue ([17:03]).
  • Designed for both healthcare professionals (B2B) and high-end consumers (B2C) ([08:13]).
  • “The pod puts the control back in your hands. It's one system every stage of life.” — Dr. Albright [22:59]

5. Addressing Skepticism & the Rise of Longevity Culture

• Evidence-based Approach:
  • Emphasis on 22 years of research, global scientific input, and real-world outcomes with both people and animals ([10:11]).
  • “Animals don’t lie, people do. And so when you see an animal limping and then…he’s running one or two treatments afterward, it shows you what’s really happening...” — Dr. Albright [10:11]
• Skepticism is Healthy:
  • Decades of scientific validation supporting light’s biological effects ([17:59]-[18:42]).
  • “Biology isn’t about belief. Biology responds to this energy...” — Dr. Harrington [18:42]
• Longevity Movement:
  • The wellness and longevity field is catching up, with early adopters like Brian Johnson creating buzz ([09:09]-[09:29]).
  • Transition from being “ahead of the curve” to now actively targeting the growing longevity market ([16:16]).

6. Practical Integration & Future Outlook

• Applications Beyond Pain:
  • Transition from targeted pain management to holistic, full-body wellness and performance for all ([10:01], [16:16]).
• Long-Term Vision:
  • Anticipate mainstream adoption in next 5-10 years, especially as AI-driven personalized treatments become standard ([19:11]-[19:18], [20:01]).
• Connecting with Sumus Medical Laser:
  • More information at thelaserpod.com ([21:59]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “No gaps, all gains. So you got a multi wavelength device that does this in a hands free way. Really helps the doctor to scale their practice.”
  Dr. Phil Harrington ([03:01])

• “People come out less. Brain fog, athletes’ recovery. So as we evolved and practiced… the athletes, the high-end consumer, they don’t want a treatment, they want a competitive advantage.”
  Dr. Richard Albright ([03:15])

• “The pod actually has sonar in it to measure the body…to deliver the exact data dose for that particular person and knows their skin color.”
  Dr. Richard Albright ([08:38])

• “Animals don’t lie, people do…if you can actually treat [an animal] and all of a sudden he’s running one or two treatments afterward…it shows you what’s really happening with the cellular side of the laser.”
  Dr. Richard Albright ([10:11])

• “Now you’re moving from a symptom management to a system optimization. Yes. Which we think is the future of medicine.”
  Dr. Richard Albright ([11:27])

• “Biology isn’t about belief. Biology responds to this energy.”
  Dr. Phil Harrington ([18:42])

• “We’re not promising miracles, we’re just actually restoring energy into the area. So the pod puts the control back in your hands. It’s one system every stage of life.”
  Dr. Richard Albright ([22:59])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Introduction to Guests & Sumus Medical Laser: [00:47] – [01:44]
• How the Laser Pod Works (Technology, User Experience): [01:44] – [04:12]
• Rapid Recovery & Use Cases: [03:15] – [04:12]
• Scientific Mechanisms: Mitochondria, ATP, Systemic Health: [05:17] – [06:16]
• AI, Sonar, and Safety Features: [08:38] – [09:03]
• From Pain Management to Longevity: [10:01] – [11:27], [16:16] – [17:45]
• Discussion of Zeta Potential & Blood Flow: [14:16] – [15:24]
• Handling Skepticism and Evidence-Based Practice: [17:50] – [18:42]
• Proactive Health Optimization & Future Outlook: [19:11] – [20:37]
• Website and Contact Info: [21:59]

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Conclusion

This episode offers a revealing, in-depth look at emerging technology in the intersection of light therapy, longevity, and proactive health optimization. Dr. Albright and Dr. Harrington emphasize the significance of true laser over LED alternatives, share their journey from pain management devices to a fully automated, diagnostic-driven regeneration suite, and frame their innovation as a key component in the evolving future of medicine.

For more information visit: thelaserpod.com

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Transcript

[Dr. Richard Albright]

It also gives some AI input of, based on your curvature, your spine, this is what you're looking like. The cool thing about that is you can use that as your initial start before even getting in the pod, and then you can see the changes that are going on, because the whole thing is diagnostic is great, and especially AI is very good, and it'll be eventually better than us.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

Well, if you're under oxidative stress, if you have poor nutrition, physical stress, there's many things that cause that zeta potential to be lost, and your blood does not flow as well. And what's really cool is exposure to the right frequencies, the right wavelengths of light, restores that zeta potential. And that's one way that this laser pod is going to restore health.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Okay, guys. Dr. Richard Albright and Dr. Phil Harrington from Sumus Medical Laser. We've never had guests specialize in this field, so thanks for your time, gentlemen.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Yeah, well, thank you for having us.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah. For those that don't know what Sumus is about, could you explain what's going on?

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Well, you know, we've been doing this for about 22 years in Class 4 laser therapy, and that's more of the portable targeted area. And so we. We would basically treat a neck, a shoulder, a knee. But over the last three, three to five years, everyone kept asking us, they feel so good that they wanted to, you have something that you can do, a whole body. And the technology wasn't available yet. And so we have just launched ever came out with the first fully synchronized laser pod that's unattended. It's a Class 4 laser that basically we're positioning it as a cellular regeneration suite.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Wow, that's exciting. So, Phil, break that down. What exactly is happening for the common source to understand?

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

I know it's really awesome the way it is. And, you know, seeing this start out with laser therapy and seeing how well that works and now to have the technology available to do this. So really what we're doing is the patient will land there in the laser pod, and it really delivers full body photonic energy to the entire body. So there's seven different wavelengths working at the same time. Some of those wavelengths will be fairly shallow in penetration. Some of them, like 8, 10, and 10 64, will penetrate much deeper into the body. But the really important thing to always remember, we're going to say this many times, it's laser. It is true laser. This is the first laser pod, first laser bed, and that hits the mitochondria in the body. You get that systemic energy production. So really what you're doing is helping with the body's energy and natural repair processes. And you know, you see all of these LED panels and things like that, they're fine, but that red light and with it being light emitting diodes, it just doesn't penetrate as deeply. And there's really no coordination of those treatments. So the laser pod really fills that gap. You get that full body systemic treatment for a true whole body system effect. And so there's really, there's no gaps, it's all gains.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Wow.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

No gaps, all gains. So you got a multi wavelength device that does this in a hands free way. Really helps the doctor to scale their practice.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah, that's exciting. I'm pumped to try it out actually because I use the red lace on a lot. But you're saying this gets even deeper than that?

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Yes, deeper. It's non evasive. You know, people come out, people come out less. Brain fog, athletes recovery. So you know, as, as we evolved and practiced and then being doing this for 22 years as a manufacturer, you know, the, the athletes, the high end consumer, they don't want a treatment, they want on a competitive advantage.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

And so this gives them that competitive advantage. And again it feels soothing. It's a great patient experience and people will actually love this thing.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah. How long do you have to stay

[Dr. Richard Albright]

inside of it for average is we've got about 15 minutes. So, so you can just get in and out. So if you're an athlete before a workout, after a workout, an executive in between a meeting, or if you have one at your house, it could be your daily ritual.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Wow. Yeah. That's way quicker than I thought actually.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Right.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Sometimes with the red light, you gotta stay in front of it for a long time.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Exactly. Yeah. No, because we're dealing, we're changing it like Dr. Phil had said from LED, which doesn't penetrate as deep. So now we're creating a lot more, they call jewels into the body so you don't need as much time.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Nice. What's the feedback been so far? I know it's new, but have people been using it?

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Yeah, we've been using it in our office. We've been testing it for. It's been about two years we've been working on this particular project. Feedback's awesome. People just absolutely love it. So we're really excited. We were just here this week at a conference to show it off and, and we've got several pre orders already.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Wow.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

So it works out well. Yeah.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

That's not easy to do. No.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

I know, yeah.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Because it's a high ticket price, it's

[Dr. Richard Albright]

a high ticket item. But we have such a great reputation in the industry that now we're just taking what we've done for many years in the handheld lasers and now shifting it into the laser pod.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Nice. Does it affect other parts of the area other than muscle, like the brain too?

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

Yeah. So it's, you know, again with it getting that whole body exposure, getting that full systemic effect. And you know, there certainly is mitochondria in the tissues and the cells in the body. There's also free floating mitochondria in the bloodstream. So what this is with the laser pod, it's about giving the cells the right light inputs to help boost that mitochondrial ATP production and that helps to reduce oxidative stress and it helps to encourage the body's own repair mechanisms. So, you know, you don't have to be an overcharging elite athlete to need this repair. Everyone needs it. Everyone in daily life needs this. And you get that full body coverage, you get that systemic effect. So everything from recovery to daily energy, you just feel more balanced and more sustained. All right. So you stick with it all day long. And really the point is, biology responds to energy. And what the laser pod does is it floods the cells with those light frequencies that they need to recharge and regenerate.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah, yeah. The bodies are being attacked by so many different angles now. It's not just if you're an athlete.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

You got emf.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah. You got WI fi, microplastics, pollution diet, stress, life. Yeah, I'd be. I track my stress. It's crazy how stressed. We're just right all the time, like six hours a day.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Yeah. Especially living out here in Las Vegas.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

The air is so dry. Yeah, yeah. Vegas can destroy you. You guys are here for a week and you kind of get a little taste of it.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

Right, Right.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Yeah, yeah. My lips are chapster air.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

I'm the chap for years, ever since I moved here. So you also talk about shifting from a reactive healthcare to proactive optimization. Right? I think that's a big movement these days.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Absolutely. And so it's, you know, longevity is systemic. And so you, you, you change the mindset of the physician to, you know, from reactive medicine to proactive. You know, the laser POV is laser pod. As Dr. Phil was saying it, it has complete cellular energy throughout the body for total body optimization. And, and it leaves no biological gaps.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah, that's the issue.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

It is, yeah.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah. Because a lot of stuff does have Gaps or side effects these days.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

Right. Yeah. Or you know even with the treatments that we started with, you know like if somebody had back pain we will be using the laser on their back. Well but if you think about. If you're looking at it from an injury pain management standpoint, if let's say you sprain your knee, well that's going to affect you know downstream down in your leg and upstream up into your hip, you know. Now with the laser pod we can do that whole body treatment to, to. To hit everything.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Wow.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah. I've been having wicked back pain lately. I really want to try this. Is there any in Vegas yet?

[Dr. Richard Albright]

A very high end consumer right now at the moment but. But not yet. But, but they'll be. They'll be coming in pretty soon.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

You guys want to go the B2B route mainly like well centers and doctor

[Dr. Richard Albright]

offices or B2B and then B2C for the high end consum that that usually you know has the. Has the income and all. Some of these guys have their own particular physical therapists that, that but again like we were saying it's very. It's unattended. You know it's. It's going to. Hitting the button jumping in and then in and out in 15 minutes and which, which makes it. And it's very safe. It.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Wow.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

The pod actually has sonar in it to measure the body to know the size they are to. To deliver the exact data dose for that particular person and knows their skin color.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

What.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

And will monitor any temperature if it got over a certain degree.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

That's impressive.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Is that AI that. No, that's normal. That's just normal cell. Yeah. That's built in into. Into all our devices.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

That's really incredible. I haven't heard of something like this.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

You know what I mean?

[Dr. Richard Albright]

We're trying to make it very safe and very easy to use.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah. Well done. We got to get one to Brian Johnson.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Funny you should say that or. Oh, you're in talks.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Wow. I had no idea. That's. That's funny. I know he's on the cutting edge of stuff like this so.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

Definitely.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Yeah. Yeah. From, from what we understand he's also on the. The. He'll be on the COVID soon on one of the big famous real scenes.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Wow. Shout out to him, man. Yeah, he's got a lot of people interested in health.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

Right.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

I think he's. And he's. I think he just started in 2023.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Pretty new to the space. Yeah. I know guys like Osprey and Ben Greenfield have Been around for decades, but.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

Right.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Ryan really made a scene quick.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Yeah. I mean we're old hats. I mean, but we've been literally even with the, the, the, the targeted lasers with, you know, we've been doing it for 22 years.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Wow. And I feel like you were ahead of your time with that.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Yes. Because back then they would stare at you differently. Look at recyclists.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Longevity wasn't cool back then.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Longevity wasn't cool. It wasn't the next thing, but it, but we were targeting more for pain. And interesting enough, where it really caught onto was in the veterinarian field.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Really.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

And the vets were using it for their animals. And our saying in our, in our offices, animals don't lie, people do. And so when you see an animal limping and then you can actually, you know, treat that particular animal and all of a sudden he's running one or two treatments afterwards. It's, it shows you what's really happening with the cellular side of side of the laser.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

That's a big cell.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

It's really been an advancement of the, you know, the research behind the mechanism this works. How does the light interact with the tissues? How deep does it go? What, what chromophores is it hitting? What's happening inside the body? So, you know, in the past 22 years, we've had researchers around the world developing these mechanisms. Now that helps us as equipment manufacturers put that into our technology. And that's, you know, one thing. Sumus Medical Laser, we've always been a very science based company. So we're going to take all of that relevant science and put it into our equipment to get the best outcomes.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

That's exciting. Yeah. Sometimes in the wellness space, that science

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

part gets lost or it kind of goes backwards or they make something and try to fit the science to it.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

So yeah, there's a lot of even supplements. You know, you think you're doing the right thing and then you look what's actually in them. Right, right. They're not really checked by a third party. So I've been navigating that space.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

And from the. Yeah. From the physician side though, now you're moving from a symptom management to a system optimization. Yes. Which we think is the future of medicine.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Really. So elaborate more on that. What do you see going on with that?

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Well, you know, everyone, and I think this is probably since COVID you know, when the government would tell us that we have to have this shot to make us feel better. They forgot that we have an innate ability to heal ourselves and So I think it woke a lot of people up. We've been in this space for a long time, so we knew the body heals itself.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

So now more and more people are rushing in to learn more about, hey, you know, there's all these particular devices or tools or nutrition that's, that's available that I need to get on the, on, on the stick and my body needs to perform better because as we age, you know, it's declining cellular power, you know, and so, you know, what this pod does and is to increase more energy into that area. Thus, you know, you're going to work more on a, on a peak performance opposed to always feeling, you know, tired.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

Right?

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah. Yes, that makes sense. I love what you said about the body healing itself too, because I think growing up I didn't think that way at all.

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[Dr. Phil Harrington]

Yeah, and it's such a strange mindset, you know, we as former chiropractors, that that's what we're taught in chiropractic school is that the body can heal itself. You know, above, down, inside out the body, the body has the ability to heal itself. And, and now that we are able to use technologies like this to help the body to heal itself, you know, we're not, not putting any, any drugs in, not doing any surgery. We're using light in such a way that it stimulates healing in the body.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Right.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

And one really cool thing, and this is a topic that I just got interested in in the last few months is the term is called zeta potential of the blood. And so you have the blood flowing throughout the body and normally red blood cells should have a little bit of negative charge so that they should repel each other. When you get down to the capillary level, so they can flow through the capillaries carrying the oxygen and the nutrients. Well, if you're under oxidative stress, if you have poor nutrition, physical stress, there's many things that cause that zeta potential to be lost and your blood does not flow as well.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Wow.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

And what's really cool is exposure to the right frequencies, the right wavelengths of light restores that zeta potential. And that's one way that this laser pod is going to restore health. It really is.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

So that being said, because a lot of guys have issues in bed. Right. And you're saying a lot of blood flow.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

Right.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Could this potentially help Ed.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

Potentially help that too. So blood flow, another effect, another mechanism. And again, thank goodness to the researchers that studied this, this technology is. You do get a release of nitric oxide. Nitric oxide is a vasodilator that's going

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

to further help with blood flow.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

So that. That' another way that. Yes, it. It can help.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah. There's whole nitric oxide companies.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

Right.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

You know, definitely because of that blood flow issue. Right now, a lot of people seem to be having even younger people, people in their 20s.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

Right. And. And why is that?

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Right. Yeah, that's the real question.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Yeah. The food they're eating, or is it the microplastics? I think it's everything, right? Yes.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah. There's so many things going on.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

Getting hit by so many things.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

And now here with the laser pod, that's a way to address those things.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah. Wow. So you guys are like, on the cutting edge of the chiropractic space. That's exciting.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

You seem to always be ahead of it, Aaron, in that. In that form, but not even just chiropractic, but now it's more going into the longevity space. These guys get it. You know, they're. They're. It's been exciting for us to be more. We've always been in it, but we're, you know, but we haven't.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

But now we're really targeting this longevity space and. And these, you know, consumers and being on a podcast like you that are preaching, you know, type of stuff that we do.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Get the information out there. Yeah, that's the key. Right. Because just isn't really taught anywhere.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

Right.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Correct. People find out about it for that.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

This platform with you, Sean?

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah, absolutely. Have you guys been going to a lot of longevity conferences and events?

[Dr. Richard Albright]

We, we probably the last year and a half, but now it's. It's more exciting because if we were showing our portable lasers, they, they were like, it takes Time. Right. And so this is another big thing for a physician, is now he can be doing his other stuff, putting someone in the. In the pod unattended. He doesn't need additional staff.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Right.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

And so that he's also, if you're going into income, he's making additional revenue off of that without having to utilize extra people to hire. Good plan. And. And that's been a bigger thing. And so back to the longevity doctors is they're so busy doing other things, they don't have another person to wave, you know, a laser on them.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

That's a good point.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

So they can go in there.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Same with chiropractors. There's. There's so much manual work. This could really help.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Sure. And. And a lot of times in chiropractic, we teach them. It's like, hey, you don't get those additional therapies that are unattended that they're working for you. Opposed to you having to do everything. Yeah.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

How are you guys dealing with the skeptics? Because this is such a new technology. Are you getting any hate or criticism?

[Dr. Richard Albright]

You know, it's not really new technology. You know, a laser in general has been. What would you say, is it, 50 years, 60?

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

How long is long ago is when

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

the laser device was invented. And, you know, skepticism is healthy. That's great. We face skepticism all along our pathways. You know, I remember my early days of using these devices in my own office that people would ask me, you're crazy. You shine light on somebody and they feel better. And again, going back to that understanding of mechanisms and in showing them how it works, once you can explain how it works, then the skeptics will be, okay, I get it. Now, there is still some skepticism, and that's healthy. But what we find, you got decades of research in this topic of using light to have a biological effect on tissues. And what it proves is that these treatments do help with mitochondrial function and resolving inflammatory stress.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

All right?

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

And those are two big things when it comes to health, wellness, longevity, energy, and so on. And so, you know, what we're doing with this laser pod that we're introducing, you got that precision. You've got the depth, you've got the dosage control, you get that full body synchronization to really, really help the body. And, you know, now it's not. Biology isn't about belief. Okay. Biology responds to this energy, all right? And so that's the way we're able to get the outcomes with the laser pod.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Nice. Yeah, that's cool. Where do you See this thing going in the next five to 10 years. Do you think this is going to be mainstream by then?

[Dr. Richard Albright]

We hope so, yeah. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, I, I think it starts again. The physicians and the, the, the ones that are the earlier adopters and then once they jump on, then I think starts to, you know, move up in, in the rankings.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah. I mean, everyone's got stress, inflammatory stress especially, I feel like.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

Yeah. And then, you know, things to look for in our laser pod. You know, right now we were talking about the way it's able to measure the patient and catch. Check their skin tone and things of that nature, but checking markers to the response to the treatment and using AI to analyze those results and then build custom protocols. I love the machine. That's, that's part of our future.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah. I just went to the dentist. He's using AI now, so he does the scans, the cone beam scans, throws it in the AI. I love that. I think that's the future. Same with blood work too, for sure.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Yeah. Yeah. We have a, another device and it's called the visbody. And it basically measures your metabolic health, measures posture, and then what, what we get out of that is you can see where they're at for their metabolic health from body fat percentages, extracellular. That one's cool. We had that here this weekend.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

You should have come to the show

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

and you know that. I know my posture is so bad I want to talk about.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

But then it gives, it also gives some AI input of what? Based on that, based on your curvature, your spine, you know, this is what you're, you're looking like. And then the cool thing about that is you can use that as your initial start before even getting in the pod and then you can see the changes that are going on. I love that because the whole thing is, you know, diagnostic is great and especially AI is very good and it's going to be eventually better than us.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Oh, it might be already, but yeah, sure. For sure. It'll be way better in the future.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Right.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Even with surgeries are saying they're going to be better.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Sure.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Which is crazy. But I definitely want to try that because I have scoliosis. I also have arthritis in my back and neck.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

And what is arthritis? Inflammation.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

So if we remove inflammation, you know, the healing, you know, starts taking place.

[Podcast Announcer/Promoter]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

I've had chronic inflammation in my back for, I think, years. My lifestyle. I sat down all day.

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

You know, Richard, we found a patient.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Yeah. Well, they say sitting is terrible for you. Right. So when you're sitting down all day,

[Dr. Richard Albright]

working out, you know. You know and you know having that healthy lifestyle is definitely helps but I'm not saying you're not healthy. It, it's, it's part of the everything, you know and this is a piece of the puzzle of everything that, that, that we're, that that's out there.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Absolutely. For people watching this, how can they learn more and check out the stuff and everything.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Yeah. So our site is lase the laser pod.com it we put the in front of it because it is the first and then I'm sure we're going to have some video of the pod rolling that we're going to send to you and, and be able to put this on the, on the screen.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Beautiful. Anything else guys you want to close off with here?

[Dr. Phil Harrington]

Well, I guess I'll just say that, you know, we've been at this a long time. I know we're a little bit older than you, but you know, I think that part of having this, you know, both of us using photobiomodulation devices in our, in our own healthcare as has helped to keep us healthy and the ones around us all, you know these, using these light devices. But then also, you know, this is a non invasive treatment. It feels good but it has all of these tremendous systemic benefits for health. So it's definitely something to look at and it's something that is really going to be a part of that trend towards proactive healthcare as we move into the future.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Absolutely.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Yeah. And you know, and we're not promising miracles, we're just actually restoring energy into the area. So the pod puts the control back in your back in your hands. It's one system every stage of life.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Well said. We'll link the website below and your social media handles. Thanks for coming on, gentlemen.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

All right, thank you.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Look forward to trying it myself.

[Dr. Richard Albright]

Yes, for sure.

[Podcast Host (Sean)]

Awesome. Check them out guys. Link in the description. See you next time.

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