
TikTok ban's hidden impact on women creators 🚨 Dive into this eye-opening discussion with Chrissy Clark on the Digital Social Hour! 🎙️ Sean and Chrissy unpack the latest news, from media settlements to mysterious drone sightings. But...
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A
Island about this. It's just like. It speaks volumes.
B
Yeah, it does. Have you been following this drone stuff?
A
Yes. Oh, my gosh. I have so many theories. I really do think I had. I heard somebody, I'm going to tell you this area. I didn't want to hear your feedback. Somebody said they're Amazon drones. I go, you seriously think that Jeff Bezos wouldn't be clickety clacking over at the Washington Post being like, look at what my drones can do. Like bullshit?
B
I don't buy that one. All right, guys, Chrissy Clark is back and we're in. We're in Phoenix this time.
A
Yeah, thank goodness. It's way better than D.C. especially this time of year.
C
Oh, yeah.
B
Better than Nashville, too.
A
Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's cool as it's balls, but I'm about to go up to Michigan after this, so it's like not going to be any better now.
B
Not fun there.
A
Yeah, exactly.
B
Well, this lawsuit just settled a few days ago with ABC News.
A
Yes, I know. It was really awesome to see. Mostly because, yeah, it's a settlement. So obviously it's not like a, well, we're guilty, but it's as close as you're going to get. And I was doing some analysis on this, really deep diving into why this happened. And, you know, I think it's part of it is. Is very exciting to see the news media have to pay a penance for what they've done. But also it really is just another example of what we've been seeing, especially for young people. As young people tune in, they see these talking points and they think if you ask anybody on the street, what was Trump convicted of, they will say, can I say R word? Yeah, R word. Grape, whatever. They will say grape. That is what they will say across the board. And that's not what he was convicted of. He has 34 felony convictions on like, not tax evasion, but like the way he cooked his books, allegedly. Right. That's what he was gone on. But yet you won't know that because when you turn into cnn, when you turn into msnbc, you see that Trump was a grapist, allegedly, when that's what Stephanopoulos is doing. I've actually heard rumors that Stephanopoulos is on his way out after I've heard been that bad, they haven't heard from.
B
Him in a while. Right.
A
That's kind of crazy. I mean, this guy has been. For this to be the thing to take him down, though, it's one of those falls from graces that is just like, it boggles my mind. You're telling me all of a sudden when we had him, like, doing dirty work for Clinton, that wasn't going to bring us down. When the interview that actually got him got on this was him asking a grape survivor about why she could support a grapest. Wow, that's nuts. That didn't bring him down, but this will. That's nuts to be.
B
Yeah, well, these traditional media outlets are struggling, so times are changing and it's.
A
It'S so interesting because I put. I don't know about you, but I put Fox News much in the category of like, traditional media. It's a cable news outlet. Right. And I don't necessarily call them like mainstream media, but they, they are in a pocket of mainstream more than other independent media outlets. They're not sinking the way cnn, MSNBC are sinking. And I don't think that has to do with, like, conservatives or old people that, you know, pay more attention to the mainstream legacy media. I just genuinely think that, like, when you don't lie to people, they'll stay.
B
Which is crazy to say because they had a way bigger settlement. Fox News almost paid a billion, right?
A
Yeah. For the Dominion settlement.
B
Yeah.
A
It's so interesting to watch. I have never been one to really cheer for the demise of media companies. Now I think you get what you deserve, 100%. But I don't want to cheer for the demise of people's jobs. It just feels icky to me. But when it came to watching other people, the way the left has just jumped on the settlement with Fox News and Dominion and then they are completely silent about this. It's just like it speaks value.
B
Yeah, it's usually. Have you been following this drone stuff?
A
Yes. Oh, my gosh. I have so many theories. I really do think I had. I heard somebody. I'm going to tell you this theory. I want to hear your feedback. Somebody said they're Amazon drones. I go, you seriously think that Jeff Bezos wouldn't be clickety clacking over at the Washington Post being like, look at what my drones can do. Like bullshit.
B
I don't buy that one. No, I like the one where their surveillance, like for nuclear weapons. I think that one's the most plausible that I've seen.
A
Well, have you seen the Iranian drone ship? That's been. Okay, so about. It would be like a month from now. A month ago, we found an Iranian container ship off the Persian Gulf coast and the container ship had been changed to be an Iranian drone launch pad. We haven't seen it. In a month, we have no idea where it is. And now all of a sudden there are drones flying over.
B
I'm like, that's weird.
A
Yes. That's convenient timing to say the least. I can't say it's causing it. I can't say it for sure. But hey, like, that's interesting timing.
B
Yeah. It's just weird that they picked those two states too. Jersey and New York.
A
Well, I heard that there were sightings in Palm beach as well, which makes my eyes go.
B
So they're all government building sightings, potentially. That's interesting, right?
A
Yeah.
B
Wow.
A
I know.
C
Trump made a video, didn't he?
A
Yeah. I think he made a press announcement that he wasn't going to his place in Bedminster because it was. He thought it was unsafe.
B
Yeah.
A
Which. That's my other thing. It's like, oh, Palm Beach, Mar a lago. Like, I wonder what they're surveying. I mean, there was. What is it? Piccatanny Arsenal is the military base over there. They could easily be running, you know, exercises over there. But why not say that? That we learn nothing from Ronavirus? You know, like, do we learn nothing about how to operate and tell the truth to the American people? Just tell the fricking truth and we're smart enough to level with you.
B
Meanwhile, TikTok might get banned. What's your take on that?
A
Yes. Oh, my gosh.
C
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A
First, I find it very difficult for TikTok to argue that they're advocates of free speech while simultaneously having hate speech policies like be for free speech or don't be for free speech, be like X or please just like. I don't really care as much. However, as a creator myself and as a woman. Like, the app has been dominated by women biological and it has been just dominated by women. It's where they're making money, they're growing, they're able to provide like college savings for their families while also being full time moms. It's awesome the opportunities that TikTok has provided for young women specifically. And so getting rid of the app and then watching women cheer the demise of the app, it's just interesting to watch the woman on women drama and finding it is ironic.
B
We'll see what happens. I don't think it's getting a band again. They always do this.
A
I know. I just saw that too. I think it was Chris Murray, two Democratic senators. I'm blanking on their names, but they were putting in an injunction to extend the TikTok ban. So give them another 90 days to make their appeal in the Supreme Court. Because I think the arguments start January 10, but then January 19, the ban is supposed to go in place. You can't make a decision. It'd be a really quick turnaround process.
B
Should the United States add Canada as the 51st state.
A
I just love watching Trump call Justin Trudeau governor. I've always called him a walking tampon, but I like governor too. Governor Tampon Trudeau. That's going to be his name from now on. I love the idea. In theory. My Canadian cousins, I don't know if they like the idea, really. They, they're very conservative relative to Canada. But even then I'm like, I don't know, like, how does that work in the voting block? Like, logistically, that's where my mind goes. I'm like, okay, I did the research. I guess California has 39 million people. Canada, the whole country has 41 million people. I'm like, okay, so do you give them one or like the electoral college votes that we have in California or do we, like, dice it up? Because some of the more some areas and provinces in Canada are a little bit more conservative than the others. I'm like, how do you do that? Like, I want to See the whole plan laid out and then I'll let you know my opinion.
B
Yeah, we'll see what happens. Either way, I think they respect us now.
A
I mean they're going to have to. Especially if they get a Conservative government or government over there where the Prime Minister Pierre Poiev has been considering running or I think he's stabbing his foot. Trudeau's considering resigning. It's all up in the air. I'm very interested to see what happens. But I know it's really sad because my Conservative cousins up there, you know, they're older than me, some of them are older than me and they're very successful, like very hard working people. But it's just really hard to get ahead. And like, I mean you don't want to compare lives but you know, comparing their life to like what we're doing here in America, it's just, it's a lot more difficult for them to succeed and I want them to have the flourishment that we have here in America for sure.
B
What would your advice be to Lily Phillips?
A
Oh, shit. My heart breaks for her. I don't know. Get good mentors because I can't say I haven't made. I haven't made mistakes of that magnitude, but I can't say I haven't made mistakes. But good mentors and good female mentors that genuinely care for you and genuinely can advise you should do that. Your mother should be there to do that. And it breaks my heart that it's not. Well, her mother's supporting, supporting and. No, I know. And I think that's what's really hard is like she needs female on female guidance and she's not getting enough.
B
Absolutely. I know our hearts are out for you. I hope you don't do the, the Thousand Men video.
A
I really hope she. I really feel like that conversation with Candace Owens was going to open her eyes and I feel like she just stood her ground and kind of was like, you can say whatever you want about me as long as I'm getting Internet attention.
B
And the money must be so good. It's like blinding her, you know, it's.
A
So fleeting though, that dries up eventually.
C
Yeah. She might not realize it until it's like years or months later.
A
I know, I know, but it's so difficult. It's like telling a teen like a kid, do you want an oreo now or $1 million next month? Like the delayed gratification. It's like talking to a toddler.
B
Yeah.
C
Where can people find you, Chrissy?
A
Yeah, of course you can find me over on Instagram or TikTok at the Chris Clark.
B
Boom.
C
Thanks for coming on.
A
Thank you.
Digital Social Hour
Episode: TikTok Ban: The Hidden Impact on Women Creators | Chrissy Clark DSH #1074
Release Date: January 8, 2025
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Chrissy Clark
In the latest episode of Digital Social Hour, host Sean Kelly welcomes back Chrissy Clark to delve into the multifaceted implications of the potential TikTok ban, particularly focusing on its effects on women creators. The conversation expands to encompass media integrity, surveillance technologies, and geopolitical musings, offering listeners a comprehensive exploration of contemporary issues.
Sean and Chrissy begin by discussing the recent settlement of a lawsuit involving ABC News. Chrissy expresses her thoughts on the settlement, highlighting its significance in holding traditional media accountable.
Chrissy Clark (00:44): "It's really awesome to see. Mostly because, yeah, it's a settlement. So obviously it's not like we're guilty, but it's as close as you're going to get."
She further critiques the media's portrayal of former President Trump, emphasizing the discrepancy between actual convictions and the narratives pushed by major news outlets.
Chrissy Clark (01:00): "He has 34 felony convictions on like, not tax evasion, but like the way he cooked his books, allegedly. Right. That's what he was gone on. But yet you won't know that because when you turn into CNN... they see that Trump was a grapist, allegedly..."
Sean adds context by referencing Fox News' larger settlement with Dominion, underscoring the broader challenges facing traditional media outlets.
Sean Kelly (02:42): "Which is crazy to say because they had a way bigger settlement. Fox News almost paid a billion, right?"
The conversation shifts to the burgeoning field of drone technology and its implications for surveillance and national security. Chrissy shares her skepticism about corporate drone initiatives, particularly those purportedly backed by Amazon.
Chrissy Clark (00:04): "I really do think I had... Amazon drones. I go, you seriously think that Jeff Bezos wouldn't be clickety clacking over at the Washington Post being like, look at what my drones can do. Like bullshit."
Sean counters with alternative theories, citing recent sightings and geopolitical developments.
Sean Kelly (04:00): "Have you seen the Iranian drone ship?... we have no idea where it is. And now all of a sudden there are drones flying over."
They discuss the timing of drone sightings in states like New Jersey, New York, and Palm Beach, contemplating potential government surveillance activities.
Chrissy Clark (04:09): "So they're all government building sightings, potentially. That's interesting, right?"
A central focus of the episode is the proposed TikTok ban and its repercussions for women creators. Chrissy underscores TikTok's role as a platform that has empowered numerous women, providing them with income, growth opportunities, and the means to support their families.
Chrissy Clark (06:01): "As a creator myself and as a woman... the app has been dominated by women biological and it has been just dominated by women. It's where they're making money, they're growing... it's awesome the opportunities that TikTok has provided for young women specifically."
Sean acknowledges the ongoing legal battles surrounding the ban, noting the injunction filed by Democratic senators to extend the ban.
Sean Kelly (06:46): "I think it was Chris Murray, two Democratic senators... putting in an injunction to extend the TikTok ban."
The discussion highlights the irony of advocating for free speech while enforcing hate speech policies, questioning TikTok's stance on moderation.
Chrissy Clark (06:01): "I find it very difficult for TikTok to argue that they're advocates of free speech while simultaneously having hate speech policies... it's just interesting to watch the woman on women drama and finding it is ironic."
The conversation takes a speculative turn as Sean muses about the hypothetical scenario of Canada becoming the 51st state of the United States. He playfully critiques Canadian leadership and explores the logistical challenges of such a transition.
Sean Kelly (07:11): "I just love watching Trump call Justin Trudeau governor... Governor Tampon Trudeau. That's going to be his name from now on."
Chrissy responds with thoughts on the political landscape in Canada, considering potential changes in leadership and the implications for North American relations.
Chrissy Clark (08:02): "Either way, I think they respect us now... it's all up in the air. But I know it's really sad because my Conservative cousins up there... it's just really hard to get ahead."
Sean turns the conversation towards offering support to Lily Phillips, presumably a public figure facing challenges. Chrissy emphasizes the importance of mentorship and female guidance.
Chrissy Clark (08:41): "Get good mentors because I can't say I haven't made... good female mentors that genuinely care for you and genuinely can advise you should do that."
She expresses concern over the lack of supportive mentorship, highlighting its impact on young women.
Chrissy Clark (09:11): "She needs female on female guidance and she's not getting enough."
Sean shares his empathy and hopes for Lily's resilience against potential negative influences seeking online attention.
Sean Kelly (09:16): "Our hearts are out for you... I hope you don't do the, the Thousand Men video."
As the episode wraps up, Chrissy provides listeners with her social media handles, encouraging them to connect with her on Instagram and TikTok.
Chrissy Clark (09:47): "Where can people find you, Chrissy? Yeah, obviously you can find me over on Instagram or TikTok at the Chris Clark."
Sean thanks Chrissy for her insights, concluding a thought-provoking episode that navigates through media critique, technological concerns, and the advocacy for women’s empowerment in the digital age.
Chrissy Clark (00:44): "It's really awesome to see... it's as close as you're going to get."
Chrissy Clark (06:01): "I find it very difficult for TikTok to argue that they're advocates of free speech while simultaneously having hate speech policies..."
Sean Kelly (07:11): "I just love watching Trump call Justin Trudeau governor... Governor Tampon Trudeau."
Chrissy Clark (08:41): "Get good mentors because I can't say I haven't made..."
This episode of Digital Social Hour offers a rich tapestry of discussions, blending media analysis, technological skepticism, and heartfelt advocacy for women in the digital creator space. Chrissy Clark's candid perspectives, coupled with Sean Kelly's incisive questioning, provide listeners with a nuanced understanding of the challenges and opportunities shaping today's social and digital landscapes.
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