Trap Lore Ross: How Rappers Snitch on Themselves in Their Own Songs | DSH #1701

Summary

Podcast Summary: Digital Social Hour

Episode: Trap Lore Ross: How Rappers Snitch on Themselves in Their Own Songs | DSH #1701

Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Trap Lore Ross
Date: December 23, 2025

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Overview

In this episode of Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly sits down with YouTuber and hip hop documentarian Trap Lore Ross to discuss the darker intersections between rap music, street culture, and the internet. The conversation explores how online communities solve crimes faster than police, the phenomenon of rappers “self-snitching” in lyrics, memorable confrontations with artists, and the evolving role of media in hip hop. The episode is candid, occasionally comedic, and pulls the curtain back on both the highs and dangerous lows of documenting street culture.

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Key Discussion Points

1. The Rise of Reddit Crime Communities and DIY Investigations

• Trap Lore Ross explains that nearly every major city with an active drill/gang rap scene now has its own dedicated subreddit (e.g., Shyrackology, Duval County, Torontology) where users actively investigate gang activity and murders, often ahead of police (00:00-00:18, 21:14-22:16).
  • Quote:
    “There’s a subreddit for it … and they're solving the murders before the police doing there.” – Trap Lore Ross (00:00)
  • Sometimes, the police themselves use Reddit threads to identify suspects.
  • Ross combines Reddit info with police reports, lyrics, and interviews to piece together narratives.

2. Behind the Scenes: Long-Form Content Creation in Hip Hop

• Ross shares about his massive projects (some reaching six hours), detailing the research, editing, and obsession required (02:52-03:39).
  • Quote:
    “My Youngboy video … took me three whole months solid. Research every day, working the weekends … It's maybe an unhealthy obsession, but it is what it is.” – Trap Lore Ross (03:14)
• Discusses the surprising appetite for in-depth content on controversial figures.

3. Reception from Artists: Clout, Conflict, and Misunderstanding

• Ross receives a range of responses — some artists appreciate the attention and clout, while others react defensively (04:34-05:54).
  • American rappers often view increased notoriety/business positively, but UK artists can be more territorial.
  • Tension with Central Cee’s manager after a documentary aired, while Central Cee himself was “a sweetheart” (06:29-08:27).
  • Quote:
    "I'm a nerd. I'm a professor. There's nothing tough about pressing me. Let's fight it out with words." – Trap Lore Ross (07:36)

4. Confrontations and the Power of Dialogue

• Firsthand clashes with figures like Tay Savage led to eventual understanding and collaboration.
• Ross notes that American rappers adapt more quickly to media exposure, while UK scenes are newer to this landscape (08:27-09:44).

5. International Gang Wars & Dangerous Cities

• Ross outlines why Toronto is now one of the most serious hip hop battlegrounds, discussing Top5, Pressa, and Drake’s indirect involvement (13:00-15:00).
  • Quote:
    "Toronto is dangerous as hell ... you gotta be careful." – Trap Lore Ross (14:54)
• Other cities discussed: St. Louis (“by far” the most dangerous), Chicago, the Bronx, and London (15:51-21:10).
  • Stories include coordinated shootings where all participants died, and UK gang members evading law enforcement internationally.

6. How Rappers Self-Snitch in Lyrics

• Lyrics as confessions: Rappers like Lil Durk and Bobby Shmurda have given prosecutors material through explicit references in their songs (22:16-23:53).
  • Quote:
    “If you can just not do the murder, that's the best way to start. But if you do, for the love of God, man, don't rap about it.” – Trap Lore Ross (22:34)
• The “power of the tongue” and the underestimated consequences of braggadocious lyrics (23:27).

7. Impact and the Ethics of True Crime Content

• Ross emphasizes he creates content from an “unbiased opinion,” aiming to inform and contextualize rather than sensationalize (06:03).
• His work sometimes aids real investigations, and he acknowledges the importance — and dangers — of documenting this world.

8. Upcoming Projects and How to Follow Trap Lore Ross

• Announces forthcoming deep dive into the Young Dolph case with new, exclusive information (23:56).
• Encourages listeners to check out his YouTube channels (Trap Lore Ross, Trap More Ross) and Instagram.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• "Those guys on Reddit, man, they really be solving the murders before the police."
  – Trap Lore Ross (00:18, 21:14)
• "I just lock in ... I'm obsessed with their music, man. Maybe it's an unhealthy obsession, but it is what it is."
  – Trap Lore Ross (03:14)
• “You make all this money, but I help them make more money.”
  – Trap Lore Ross recounting King Von’s manager’s words (05:26)
• "Toronto is dangerous as hell ... you gotta be careful."
  – Trap Lore Ross (14:54)
• "If you can just not do the murder, that's the best way to start. But if you do, for the love of God, man, don't rap about it."
  – Trap Lore Ross (22:34)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:00-00:18 – Subreddits outpacing police in solving murders
• 02:52-03:39 – How and why Ross makes long-form videos
• 06:29-08:27 – Confrontation with Central Cee’s manager
• 13:00-15:00 – Toronto’s gang scene, Top5’s story, and Drake’s peripheral role
• 15:51-17:07 – St. Louis as the deadliest city in rap’s gang wars
• 18:05-21:10 – London’s knife and gang culture, the Suspect/CGM saga
• 22:16-23:53 – How rappers incriminate themselves in music

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Tone and Style

Ross balances gritty, detailed street knowledge with humor and self-awareness. He calls himself a “nerd” and “professor,” framing his obsession as a passion for hip hop storytelling. Throughout, he’s mindful of the human cost behind the stories, expressing hope for less violence in the scene.

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Conclusion

This episode offers a raw, insightful look at the intersection of music, crime, and digital media. Trap Lore Ross provides a unique perspective as an investigative fan-turned-documentarian, revealing both the fascination and the risks of covering street culture. The stories shared underscore not only the dangers of the hip hop world but also the digital communities analyzing — and sometimes affecting — real-world events.

Transcript

[A]

Every major city that's got a drill music and a gang music scene, there's a subreddit for it, sometimes two or three. Chicago, they got Chi Racology. Jacksonville, they got Duval county in uk, they got R. Ukdrill In Toronto, they got Torontology. Damn near every city you can think of, there's a subreddit, and they're solving the murders before the police doing there.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So I'm part of those communities, and I'm quite active in those communities, but also, like, I do my own research, I take what people are saying in those communities, and then I look at police reports, I look at interviews, lyrics, and try and piece together the truth from that. But, yeah, those guys on Reddit, man, they really be solving the murders before the police. And sometimes it takes the police the Reddit, so they see what's going on on the Reddit and then they swoop in.

[B]

No way.

[A]

Yeah, man.

[B]

All right, guys, Complex con day two.

[A]

We got trap.

[B]

Laura Ross here today. Had a little incident yesterday, but thanks for coming.

[A]

I appreciate it, man. I'm still out here. I'm still outside, so, you know, I'm not too discouraged.

[B]

Yeah, I know. We were trying to set this up, and then I saw that viral video and I was like, oh, let me hit up to Come on. So it worked out.

[A]

Yeah. It's epic that you're out here, man. We've been meaning to do something for a minute and, you know, this is a great way to do it.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely. How's the event been for you?

[A]

It's been amazing, man. I've had such a good time. Like, it's been good music, good food, good people, like, great merch, all kind of cool stuff getting given away. I love it. It's my first complex con, and it's fire, and, you know, I'm so grateful that I was on the complex list, you know, the last two years. I went up in the rankings last year, so I'm hoping to keep that going and just show love to complex, because I've. I've been rocking with what they do. Legendary. What's. What's your ranking right now? I think I was 13.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I got the unlucky number, man. So I don't know how I was feeling about 13, but I think before I was like 19 or something, so. Something like that. But I'm blessed, you know, I'm so grateful to even be on the list, just to get that recognition, you know, I love what I do. I don't do it for that kind of thing, but I feel like what complex are doing with this list is really important, you know, I feel like maybe it could grow one day. This might end up becoming like a Oscars for hip hop content creators or something, so. I really love what they're doing, man. Sounds complex.

[B]

How is that list based off. Is it off views or is there a formula?

[A]

I don't actually know, to be honest. I feel like maybe they kind of, you know, pick their favorite, so maybe they have a little ball. I did. I did notice that Adam22, was absent from last year's list, so I thought maybe that was a little bit of a snob. Maybe they're not rocking with him, man, but that's. That's my homie. But I don't know what the algorithm is for working that out. I would love to know, because if. If you tell me what gets you rising up that list, I'm gonna do it.

[B]

I feel though you've known Adam for a minute.

[A]

Yeah, I connected with Adam in 2020, back in the pandemic. You know, I was just doing my thing before anyone showed me love in the uk. Adam was the first person to hit me up. And, you know, if his guy. House phone that was on the pod, he kind of like tapped Adam in with me on a pod. They were talking about my stuff. And then we know, we got on a phone call, we did like a digital interview in Covid. And then when Covid ended, I was able to go out there and do no jumper. And he's just been a friend ever since, you know, I know he gets a lot of hate, but he's just been a mad supporter. He's just a nice guy offline, you know, there's a lot of crazy stories about him over the years, but to me, he's just for me. That's a nice. Yeah.

[B]

I could tell with your videos, you put in a lot of effort and time.

[A]

I try, man. I try. Some of them are two hours long. I got six hours, my longest one.

[B]

Holy crap. Yeah, it's like a movie, bro.

[A]

I see it like a box set, like a whole miniseries, like a six, seven seasons, you know, I got a young boy video that's six hours, and I got a video about a gang called 600 that was exactly six hours, 00. I just nerded out. I was like, it's 600. We're gonna make this video six oo.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So, yeah, I'm just a nerd with it, man. I'm. I'm a psycho. I don't know how I Do it. Sometimes I look back, I'm like, how did I make six hours? How do I even do that? But I just lock in, you know, the Youngboy video. That took me three whole months solid. Research every day, working the weekends, and my editors working around the clock to do that. We're just super passionate about what we do, man. Like, I love the music. I love youngboy. I love all the people I talk about. Like, I'm obsessed with their music, man. It's, you know, it's. Maybe it's an unhealthy obsession, but it is what it is, man.

[B]

I mean, there's a market there. You're getting a lot of views. People want to know, I guess, the personal side of these rappers, right?

[A]

Honestly, sometimes I find myself surprised that that many people are even interested in this. When I got started on YouTube, I used to do stand up comedy. I used to make rap music and make skits. You know, I was never getting any views. And then once I started getting views, it was like I went from zero to hero quick and was getting millions of views. And even now I still pinch myself. I think, how is that real? Like, I can't believe 3, 4 million people want to hear me waffle about Youngboy for six hours. But I think people relate to the passion. People that are passionate about Youngboy, they want to sit and learn about him for six hours. And, you know, I sat there and learned about him for three months and gave that to people as something they could enjoy. So I like to think I'm kind of helping artists, like connect with the fans and people that understand their music more. Because that's what made me fall in love with the music, man. The stories and the characters and everything behind the media. You just fall in love with these rappers once you know their backstories, no pause, but like fall in love from a spiritual sense, you know what I mean? But I just. All the people I talk about, I just, I love their music. I love the culture, man. That's what it is.

[B]

Is the reception from the rappers usually pretty positive?

[A]

It's mixed, man. It's mixed. You know, I ran into Central Sea yesterday. That was definitely a. A mixed reaction, to say the least. But to be honest, I find that the. Especially the American artists, a lot of guys I've done videos on, a couple of the guys from 600 I did videos on, I've met them and they've been cool. Because I think especially in America, a lot of rappers understand the media and they understand how important it is to get your name out there and to raise your notoriety. So a lot of people, I mean, it's so sad, man, but rest in peace to thf Bezu just passed away yesterday, but he was somebody who did an interview with no Jumper, and they asked him, what do you think? All these documentaries. He was one of King Von's really close friends, and he kind of said, oh, man, it's mixy. But I rate what he's doing and he's spreading the word and he's building us up and he's bringing us clout. So rest in peace to Bezu, man. But, you know, I never got a chance to meet him, but he was somebody who, you know, showed some. Showed some respect and said he rocked with the content. And I feel like it, you know, it's easy for everyone to kind of act tough and hate, but I feel like it's actually, you know, really respectable for him to say, look, just to keep it real. Like, you're making us more notorious. You're bringing us streaming numbers. I spoke to king Von's manager, 100k track, and he said, look, after you made that documentary about King Von, the streaming numbers shot up. So people saying, you make all this money, but I help them make more money. So, you know, it's not why I do it, but I thought that was really interesting. And I'm really just trying to push the culture. I want more eyeballs on this music I love. So that's it.

[B]

Well, yeah. Attention's currency, right? You just got to figure out how to channel it and monetize it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Even if it's coming in negative at first. Look what Jake and Logan Paul did. They turned it into tens of millions of dollars.

[A]

Yeah. You know, it's funny because sometimes I make stuff and it's kind of like I don't know if I'm going to get a positive or negative response. And, you know, sometimes I've done stuff where I'm like, people are going to hate this, but they love it. And then there's other times I've been like, oh, this will be cool. And it's gone completely left. So it's really out of your hands once you release that video. But my thing is I just try and focus on the truth, the facts of the situation, and really just give people like, my unbiased opinion and facts and research on a situation. And sometimes it's positive, sometimes it's negative. But you can't say I don't keep it real.

[B]

Absolutely. So the Central C incident, it looked like he was cool with you. And then I don't know who that guy was. Was that his manager?

[A]

Yeah, that's his manager, ybs, man. So he's a very notorious guy in the uk. He used to be a rapper and then he kind of didn't really make it with the rapping. So he got into managing, he found Central Cee and kind of back when Central Cee was making kind of kind of music for girls with the auto tune, he basically said, no, you need to get in the streets. You need to put on the Nike tech and basically start rapping about the gangster stuff that's really popping right now. This is like 2018, 2019, when UK drill really first had a resurgence. You know, we had the number one UK Drill song during those years, a song called Body. And basically Drill gangster music was the biggest thing at the time. And the story goes, YB's basically got central Cee and turned him into this sort of gangster rapper. And, you know, I talked about YB's in the documentary. He wasn't happy with what I said about him. He usually covers up his face, but I showed his face in the documentary because he was a rapper back in the day. His face is all over, but he's got this kind of new Persona. So I don't think he was feeling that, man. He tried to press me, but at the end of the day, nothing really happened. And, you know, it was. It was a crazy moment. But I think it just goes to show, man, like, look, I'm not. I'm not scared of people. Like, I'm not a tough guy. He was saying he was going to punch me. I'm not a tough guy. There's nothing tough about pressing me. I'm a nerd. I'm a professor. All right? So there's nothing tough about pressing me. Let's fight it out with words. I said, let's have a conversation. We had a brief conversation. I just dropped the clip on my. My YouTube channel with the second part of that conversation. People didn't see and, you know, it is what it is, man. But I really don't take it to heart. Central C was actually a lovely guy. Like, he was a sweetheart to me. So I feel like he was actually super nice guy. I think his manager took issue and Sench said it himself. He said, look, it's not even me. He said, I'm running a business. I see where the promo. I see the benefit of this, but the people around me, they don't like the way you put me down. They're really Just trying to, you know, show what they're willing to do for him and really show that. Show them their best so that they can show their loyalty, show their loyalty to Central Seas. So I understand it, but, you know, no, I didn't get touched. It wasn't a problem. I'm not taking it to heart. And a lot of people making jokes, making memes of bellow, shouting, get out the booth. Get out the booth. So is what it is, man. But, you know, I don't know. I don't know if we're gonna squash that one anytime soon.

[B]

Was that the first time someone's came up to you in person, man?

[A]

No, not the first time. I had a little altercation with Tay Savage a while back. I did a video about him and his double murder case that he beat like a few years ago. But it was an interesting one because we bumped into each other, we had some tension, there was a clip, but then we kind of squashed it afterwards and we kind of became friendly. I explained to him, look, I'm a fan. I'm really just trying to push what you got going on. I can't sugarcoat it. You know, all of this stuff out you, the paperwork's out there about your case and all that kind of stuff, people want to know it. And once we had a dialogue, I think he understood, look, you're really trying to push what I'm doing. I did some promo for him, I did a few more videos just pushing his new music, and he kind of understood it and respected it. And then we did an interview. So I don't know if it's going to go that way with Central Sea. I think the problem is, I think the American rappers, because Americans are a lot more capitalistic and they understand the game, that even if it takes a bit of time, they recognize it. But I think in the uk, there's just like a different attitude. In the uk, people feel like you shouldn't even be allowed to talk to each other, and everyone's very territorial. So I don't think it's going to go that way with Central Sea. But most Americans I speak to, even if we have a little issue, we kind of find our understanding after a point, especially when they realize, like, I'm still trying to promote you, like, I'm trying to keep talking about what you've got going on, keep your name alive so people understand that.

[B]

I think in America, I think in America there's more of you here, more people that do your type of content. And in the uk, maybe you're one of very few people, right?

[A]

Yeah, it's a new thing, man. And shout out to all of the people coming up in the UK that are doing their thing. My guy Honcho's house, bouncer tanks, you know, all of the content creators in the uk, Billy the Goat, Cremo, they're really doing their thing. I think the UK is a little bit stuck a few years behind America. You know, I was just really lucky to be one of the first people doing hip hop documentary content and I just so happened to be from the uk. Thankfully, America's really embraced me, probably more than the uk, but a lot of people in the UK have shown me love now. You know, like I say, Adam was the first person to put me on, but, you know, I've heard from all kind of people afterwards, you know, it's the Charlie Sloth, Show Me Love. You know, different interviewers from the uk, Young spray, that's my guy. You know, it's controversial now, but Tim Westwood, show me Love. You know, if it's. It's a tricky one for him right now, but, you know, even for someone like that who's an og, I grew up listening to his stuff. You know, I appreciate it that he would reach out, but it's a, you know, it's unfortunate situation right now. But yeah, no, I just really appreciate all the support that I'm getting from the UK now and I'm trying to support that new generation of people coming up in the uk, people like Tang to bounce the Honcho. So, yeah, I just love to see it.

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[B]

6Ix9Ine seems like he's making a comeback to social media. Have you ever made a video about him?

[A]

I made a whole bunch of videos about him, but it was very early in my career. You know what's funny? I actually ended up getting on a FaceTime call with 6ix9ine the other day because I'm close with Vlad and Adam and all that kind of thing. Everybody's kind of getting their content with him. So I tapped in with 6ix9ine and you know what was crazy? He said, yeah, I love your stuff. I watched all your Chicago documentaries and I said, you see the one I did about you? He said, no. And then I realized, oh, I made. I made about eight videos about 6ix9ine back when he was on trial. And he would have been in jail in the feds the whole time. So he never really clocked the videos I made about him. So, you know, I'm hoping I might be able to do some content with him soon and maybe get him to react to some of the stuff that I've done. Because I dyed my hair rainbow back in 2019 when I did a video about him. And you know, I'm a big fan of 6ix9ine, man. I don't care what anyone says. I think he's a genius marketer. You know, he makes good music and you know the Persona he's. If hip hop is WWE wrestling, man, he's stone cold out there.

[B]

He's on the Mount Rushmore facts. I'm rooting for his comeback, honestly.

[A]

Me too, man. And those Vlad clips have been going crazy.

[B]

Crazy Vlad, he's just one on Fresh and Fit. I think he's going on Adam soon, so.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I'm waiting for the Adam interview. I'm hearing there's a few other names that might be going to interview with him soon, man. So stay tuned.

[B]

Let's go. Six nine. You also just made a video on Top five. What do you think about him?

[A]

Cuz he.

[B]

He's coming on my show, actually.

[A]

No way. Met him, man. All right, you got. Yeah, if you haven't, check out that video I done on Top five. So look, Top five. All right. He is a notorious gangster in. In Toronto. Okay. He's been known as one of the most terrifying gangsters. He's part of this crew called the ggg, the Go Get Em Gang. And allegedly they really go and get him. Top Five's Name's been associated with about three murders that I could find in, in, you know, in Toronto. You know, that last murder that he got caught up on, he was looking like he was potentially facing life on that. But apparently Drake got him the best lawyer. He ended up beating that case. They had a one year window to refile it. That's just passed Top five. Said he was celebrating. They can't charge him with that murder now and now he's out here becoming a streamer. So I, I respect what Top five's doing, man. And he's really got the personality for this stuff. You know, he goes live on kick, he gets 10, 000 viewers, he goes crazy with the content, he does all these interviews, he doesn't duck any fades or questions. So I really respect what he's done. But man, it just breaks my heart because he used to be really close with another amazing rapper from Toronto, Pressa. They had a little falling out and now there's, you know, there's a civil war going on in Toronto in it. It breaks my heart because when Pressa and his brother Boondock and Top Five and YG is another great rapper from Toronto were all together, that was like a golden era for Toronto music, man. So I'm just hoping maybe there's a way for them to squash it. But you know, shout out to Top five, shout out to Pressa, shout out to Wide Yellow on no problems with these guys. I know how to serious. Shout out to Bundok too. But man, Toronto is real. For anybody thinking Toronto is not serious like that, man, you got a reality check because Toronto is dangerous as hell.

[B]

The only way to mediate that sounds like Drake has to get involved, right?

[A]

I know, but I think this might be a little bit out of Drake's like out of Drake's remit, you know what I mean? This like it's devolved into real street business. You know, there's been seemingly incidents on both sides going on and you know, I feel like it might be at a point where Drake's kind of saying, look, I kind of got to stay out of this because he was cool with both of those sides. But I don't think it's going to be able to be squashed. And I'm hearing the weekend as part of the whole beef that was going on too. So yeah, the law gets deep with that, man. I got. Holy crap. Put you on some of the Torontology subreddit where you can find out what's going on.

[B]

I didn't know it was like that.

[A]

In Toronto it is, man. A lot of people don't. A lot of people think they're soft and they think the accents, but bro, they get busy in Toronto, man. You gotta be careful.

[B]

Yeah. So when you think of most dangerous cities right now in the hip hop scene, you would put Toronto up there in that conversation?

[A]

I would say, I would, I would put it quite high, man, because a lot of people are getting hurt out there. You know, there was a. Unfortunately there was a, you know, a guy by the name of dbk that was kind of the street name. He was, you know, quite close to top five impressive them he ended up losing his life in a shooting recently. I mean, top five got stabbed in the neck in London. You know, it's such an unfortunate situation. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. I'm so glad that he pulled through.

[B]

And you think that was connected to Toronto? Allegedly? I guess.

[A]

Allegedly. That's what some people say. I might have said that once or twice and I got a few phone calls. So I'm not saying it now, but yeah, get on Torontology, on Reddit and you know, you're going to hear what they're saying over there. But yeah, I just want to stop the violence, man. Everyone's a talented artist, great musicians. Like, we want to just focus on peace and music and positivity. But hey, it's. It's easier said than done, man.

[B]

Yeah. What other cities are pretty dangerous right now, man?

[A]

I mean, Chicago historically has been one of the most famous cities for its gang warfare. You know, it's so unfortunate, man. Rest in peace to thf Bayzu. He just passed away. He was a legendary rapper and kind of street figure that came up with Lil Durk and King Von. You know, I just did a video about him and his crew, thf the trigger happy family recently. They're really not to be played with, so. And he was a very, very serious guy, but unfortunately he just lost his life. You know, the Bronx I think in New York has been quite vicious recently. You get a lot of these young guys that they're just getting younger and younger and younger, getting into these beefs and that, you know, that's very serious. I think a lot of kids are getting dragged into it, but I would say realistically, number one, most dangerous city I've ever covered by far, St. Louis. I did a video on the St. Louis gang war about all the different gangs. The beef in St. Louis, they've got all kinds of different national gangs. Bloods, Crips, even Hoovers. They've got that have come from LA and they've set up shop in St. Louis. There's like drug distribution networks that go through St. Louis and a lot of gangs have had a real stronghold there. But I did a video about the gangs of St. Louis and there was a really vicious beef between these two crews. You know, this crew's 57 Floyd and this crew 26 Solway. And you know, they. All these different gangs are all connected. And there was, in this video that I covered, there was an insane shootout where about four or five ops ran into each other and everyone shot it out and everyone died. And so it was like, crap. That was a real eye opener because it's like one of the few situations I've seen where nobody came out on top.

[B]

Everyone's dead.

[A]

You all each other out? Yeah. Guys getting shot and then taking another shot before they pass away. And then the police are just turning up to like four or five dead bodies. Just. I've never seen anything like that, man. So St. Louis. But at the same time, St. Louis have got a lot of popping rappers. You know, shout out CTS, Lil Wick, 30 deep grimey, big bucks Von Big Bucks Trey. You know, a whole lot of people, man. Hot head Capone, man. Man 6 I'm trying to think who. I don't want to forget any names, but St. Louis, really popping right now. They got a lot of really good eyes. They've got Rambo. Whole bunch of people killing it in St. Louis, Man. C4 murder. So yeah, man, like St. Louis, definitely one of the grimiest cities out there, but they're making some great music and again, a lot of new attention now. There's been a few things going on, so yeah, it's. But it's serious out there, man. And you know, I, I hope that the violence can stop, man. You know, he would see in all this stuff about Trump sending National Guard in and who knows if that's going to do anything, but man, we want music, not murders. Yeah.

[B]

What about London? Because in America we see headlines of stabbings out in London. Is. Is that actually a big problem over there?

[A]

Yeah, no, it's a big problem. They trying to tell me Central Sea is the biggest stepper in London, man. But no, I mean, I covered, I covered the gang war between, you know, this gang called the 1212 World or 12 Ante and another gang called 1011 or CGM. And you know, the story goes is that kind of once Central C was having some success in the music, he got around these guys from this gang called the 12th and they beef with the 11. It's kind of postcode wars. So they bang the gangs that are their postcodes on their zip code, right? And obviously Digga D is probably the most notorious rapper from cgm. CGM is a very notorious crew. There's been loads of murders that they've been involved with. They beef with a whole bunch of different gangs. And Digga D was in prison. He just got out recently. And a lot of people are saying he's about to save the rap game in the UK because, you know, he really been through it. He's had real cases. You know, he had a firearms case where he shot someone in the face. Fortunately, they survived. I think he blinded them and he ended up beating that charge. But he ended up going to jail for a drug importation scheme. And it's crazy because he was at the top of his game, making millions, but he was still tied in with the streets. But fortunately, he's just come out of prison and he's back to music. He's been in the studio. But London gets crazy. I did another video about a rapper called Suspect from Active Gang and his story is wild. So he was in a massive gang war in an area called Camden and sort of the northern side of London. And he basically, you know, he was getting busy with the knives. We got these things called ZK knives. They're called zombie killer knives and they're giant blades which are serrated edges. They're super illegal. But, you know, story goes, you know, Suspect and his gang, he basically got busy and they killed two people in the gang war. And then all of the guy there was like six of them involved in the murder and they all fled to different countries. So one of them tried to go to Egypt, but he got caught trying to get out of the country. Another guy got caught in England. Suspect and his guy S Wavy, they fled to France. Then they managed to get to Kenya. And he hid out in Kenya for two years and kept making music. But unfortunately he slipped up and posted a picture of himself in his kitchen. And Reddit and the cops worked out. They could see the oven in the kitchen and the plug sockets. They said, yo, that's Kenya. No way. They triangulated where he was and they raided his house in Kenya. He got extradited back to England and he ended up getting, I think, 27 years for murder. But the crazy thing is there was another guy called Sy who was involved in that murder. He made it to Somalia. There's no extradition treaty. He's disappeared and has never been seen again. So suspect and S Wavy are doing like 27 years in prison. Sy got away. So that, to my, my opinion, is one of the craziest stories in the uk. And suspect's very demonic. He's almost like a. A King Von of the uk. Very disrespectful music and super young when this was going on, man. You know, these guys are just teenagers when this was going on. So, you know, I'm not, I'm not condoning the murders, but at the same time, these guys are a product of their environment and they really been through hell, you know, the way that they grow up. You know, suspect was in foster care. He went missing as a child. They're saying that he got, you know, taken and sent elsewhere to work on drug distribution networks. We got this thing called county lines in the UK where they take young kids and they send them to other places to go and sell drugs. And like London's the hub and they go to small towns and you know, that ends up leading to violence in these small towns that never really had this kind of, you know, London based gangs over there waging war. So it's a sad story, man. I think a lot of people get sucked into the streets and, you know, they don't realize how deep they're in it until it's too late. But yeah, the UK is definitely not to be played with either. You know, there's a lot of violence and right now the UK is kind of out of control. There's been a lot of, a lot of gang wars going on, especially South London.

[B]

Damn, with your investigative work, I feel like you could solve some unsolved murders.

[A]

I've sold a few of my. I solved a few of them. Oh, I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, there's been a few that I've solved kind of before the police. I don't even want to take all the credit because on Reddit, every major city that's got a drill music and a gang music scene, there's a subreddit for it, sometimes two or three. Chicago, they got Shyrackology. Jacksonville, they got Duval County. In UK they got R UKdrill. In Toronto, they got Torontology. Damn near every city you can think of, there's a subreddit and they're solving the murders before the police doing there. So I'm part of those communities and I'm quite active in those communities. But also like I do my own research, I take what people are saying in those communities and then I look at police reports. I look at interviews, lyrics and try and piece together the truth from that. But yeah, those guys on Reddit, man, they really be solving the murders before the police. And sometimes it takes the police, the Reddit, so they see what's going on on the Reddit and then they swoop in.

[B]

No way.

[A]

Yeah. That's crazy. Well, you know, it's so sad, man. This guy thf Bezu just died. Y now I'm seeing a post on Reddit just now. They're saying the guy that did it's already on Instagram talking about he did it. And that's circulating on the Reddit. So I'm just seeing that and the police are probably two, three steps behind.

[B]

That is nuts. Yeah.

[A]

So crazy.

[B]

The fact that you're looking at their lyrics is pretty nuts too. They're kind of self snitching on themselves sometimes, bruh.

[A]

The worst one's Lil Durk, man. People really hate them. People really hate on me for talking about Lil Durk. But I've said it before. He's got this album called Loyal Bros. It was released just a few months after the murder of Quando Rondo's cousin. Lil Pab shouts Quando Rondo. I got my Quando shirt on today.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Okay, but you know, within just a few, three, four months of that murder happening, that Dirk's now facing murder for hire charges. He released this album called Loyal Bros. For his OTF record label. He's got all of his guys, he's got guys that are there on the conspiracy of murder to hire on there on songs. They've got a song on there called, you know, that We Did It. I'm serious. They've really got like, there's a bunch of stuff, there's so, so, so many lyrics where he, him and his whole crew are telling on themselves. And then people get mad at me for talking about it. So look, I've said it before, look, if you can just not do the murder, that's the best way to start. But if you do, for the love of God, man, don't rap about it. Like, I'm, I'm here after the fact. I didn't get in the booth and tell you guys to rap about the murder, talking about, you know, that we did it. But yeah, man, you know, people do be telling on themselves, man, and then they want to cry foul to the media afterwards, but it's really not the Reddit's fault, man. And you know, I feel like people got to make better decisions and think about the future because Lil Durk's looking at his face in life now, and I don't think the chances are looking too good for him, unfortunately.

[B]

Yeah, that's how they got Bobby Shmurda.

[A]

All right. Robbie Shmurda had a whole song talking about who caught a body, who was doing. Selling dope since the fifth grade, you know, fortunately, he wasn't implicated personally in a murder, but there were murders in his crew and stuff like that. And, bro, you just got to be more careful on the mic sometimes. I think the power of the tongue is very underrated. People don't realize what they're putting out there, man. So it's really sad, but at the end of the day, hey, these guys, you're a grown man. If you want to get in the booth and talk about, you know, that we did it, that's you.

[B]

Yeah. Well, Ross, this has been fun, man. What are your next videos? Where can people find you and everything?

[A]

Appreciate that, man. Yeah, I'm about to do a big video on young Dolph. Obviously, very unfortunate how young Dolph lost his life in Memphis. There's been a whole bunch of back and forth. There's been about two. Two trials so far. You know, somebody's been convicted. Somebody, Hernandez governed, was acquitted. So, you know, now that the trials happen, I got a lot of new paperwork, so I'm going to do a big Dolph deep dive with information people have not heard before. So that's going to be crazy. So, yeah, check me out Trap law Ross on YouTube. I'm being active on my second channel, Trap Mole Ross. So I'm just doing daily update updates there. I just did a reaction to the whole Central Sea thing. So if you want to know what really happened behind the scenes with that, go check me out on my second channel. Trap More Ross Instagram Trap Lord Ross. And, yeah, I'm just gonna keep doing my thing, man. But thank you so much for having me, bro. I really appreciate that.

[B]

Yeah, great time, man. Check them out, guys. Peace.

[C]

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[A]

Thank you.