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Urijah Faber Reveals His Secret Struggle... | DSH #1963
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What does it really take to survive at the top of the fight game for decades? Urijah Faber sits down with Sean Kelly in Las Vegas for a raw conversation about fighting, business, fatherhood, health, fear, and what it takes to build a life after the cage. From coaching Song Yadong through a razor-close fight with Sean O’Malley to building Team Alpha Male into one of the most respected fight teams in MMA, Urijah breaks down the mindset that kept him in the game longer than most fighters ever last. He talks about the early days of MMA when fights paid $200, the sport was still illegal in California, and there were no real opportunities for lighter fighters. He also shares how he built businesses while fighting, why losses never broke him, and why focusing only on what you can control is the real key to longevity. This episode also goes deep into health, longevity, fatherhood, natural medicine, testosterone, peptides, AI, entrepreneurship, bullying, and why fear has never been some...
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A
Some of the losses ever get to you mentally, were they hard to bounce back from? Some of them.
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B
Looking back at it, I was just like, you know what? I'm only going to worry about the things that I can control. I'm only going to let the things that I can control affect me. I've always had a pretty good head when it came to just leaving the experience, taking the lesson. Fear is not something I could give. It's about anything that's scary. Doesn't scare me.
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A
All right, guys, Uriah here, AKA the California Kid. Let's go. Back in Vegas, your second home, right?
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B
Yeah, I've been here a lot lately.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Just out here for the Song o' Malley fight. And I mean, this is like killer's row of fight events in Vegas this next couple months.
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A
Yeah. Great fight, by the way. Well done. I didn't even know you were his coach, honestly. I'm so new to the sport, but I saw you there, and great fight.
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B
Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people thought he won, and obviously o' Malley is a beast, and he did a great job as well. It was too close for comfort, but I thought we got the W. Yeah.
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A
I feel like when you're the fan favorite, you have to win against those types of people more than normal, right?
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B
Yeah, unfortunately, Song's a fan favorite in China. He's massive in China, same as o' Malley is here. And we were happened to be in, you know, an o' Malley favored arena. And I mean, it was a close fight, you know, and especially the. The later. Later rounds, you know, o' Malley turned it on. And so it is what it is. We're happy for the. You take the lesson, leave the experience. We say, absolutely.
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A
How many fighters you got on the team right now?
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B
Geez, I don't know. I mean, throughout history, we've had probably you know, 110.
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A
Wow.
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B
UFC caliber fighters on the team. I think now. Probably active, maybe 20.
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A
Okay.
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B
We've got fighters from all over the world, so Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Chechnya, you know, we've got Russia, Ukraine, China, Japan, the uk, Australia, and then of course, good old California and in the US So people are in and out quite a bit, depending on their home base and when their fight camps are and whatnot, and. But we have a lot of fighters, man.
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A
Yeah. That's impressive. Yeah. Team Alpha male. Been around for 22 years now. Produced three UFC champions.
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B
Yeah.
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A
No easy task, right?
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B
No easy task. We had, you know, like Misha Tate. I know she. She's. She's around Vegas these Days she was on our team when she had a lot of success.
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A
Nice.
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B
You know, guys that have been parts of our team, touched our team that, that, you know, gone and done some big things. A lot of title, contention, fighting for titles and, and yeah, we become a staple in the, in the sport, which is awesome doing around the globe and you know, it was just started out just having fun.
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A
Yeah, that's impressive. It can't be an easy business with all the moving parts. Right?
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B
It's not an easy bit. I mean, well, you can make it very simple. It's guys and girls fighting each other, but there's obviously a lot of politics. There's a lot of, you know, things that are behind the scenes. There's, there's the business of it all. So it could be very simple or very complicated. It's one of the simplest sports in the world, one of the most basic. You know, people used to fight over, you know, women, shelter and food back in the day. And now we're, we're still doing it, to be honest. Yeah, it's at a higher level.
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A
Yeah, it feels like the sport is at a much higher level. Right. Because when you were competing you could kind of win with one, one or two styles, but now you got to be well rounded and everything.
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B
Yeah, I mean, at the very beginning of the sport, it was, it was basically that, it was Brazilian Jiu Jitsu versus Karate versus Boxing, etc. Um, I was like, you know, I've only been retired six years, five years or so.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So I, the, the latter half of my career was, you know, the blending, everybody was blending the stuff. But, and, and the common stuff is, is the mentality and the guys that are at the highest level. It's, it's, it's all in the mind. It's, you know, I, I, I joke with some of my guys because, you know, everybody talks about the evolution of the sport and this and that. Um, but I've got books from, you know, 1890s, early 1900s that are like thick with techniques and Jiu jitsu and, and all this high, high level technique that gets reinvented. I mean, people have been fucking each other up for a long time, man.
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A
Damn. I didn't know they were talking about this.
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B
In the 1800s, they used to do boxing matches with no time limits. They would go like, like days sometimes.
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A
Holy shit. Yeah, it's crazy days.
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B
Yeah.
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A
People get gas boxing in two minutes.
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B
Yeah, yeah. No, it was like back in the day there was like, you know, literally I, somebody pitched me a movie Concept on, on, on some of the old stories of the boxing guys, there's guys that would, they would just box till someone couldn't go anymore.
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A
That's nuts. Yeah, that's a method.
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B
Days might be pushing it, but we can fact check that one.
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A
I mean, even if it's ours, that's still crazy for a box.
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B
Yeah, definitely half a days, you know.
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A
Yeah. Because people get gas in the UFC ring in literally a minute, two minutes sometimes.
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B
Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, in the real world, being gas doesn't matter, you know, either gonna die or you're gonna keep going. I think some fighters need to remember that sometimes.
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A
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Now, you had a really long career. Is there any fight you regret taking or not taking?
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B
No, I, I pretty much took all the fights that were offered to me. Loved the whole process. Process. No regrets, as they say. Not even one letter. But, you know, for me, I think, you know, I was a guy that exhaust exhausted all, all opportunities. So, yeah, I would. If I got a short term, short, short notice fight for a title, whether I was a little injured or I was prepared fully or whatnot, I'm like, this may be the last one. I always had that mentality of like, you just take your opportunities, you take your opportunities. So I could have been more prepared for a couple fights. There's two fights that were title fights that, you know, I definitely wasn't at, at like the prime, like preparation and prime physical ability, but still took it because, you don't know.
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A
Short notice fights.
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B
Yeah, short notice fights. I filled in for Dominic Cruz, you know, when he got injured, I think twice actually.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And had short notice fights and. Yeah. So. But I'm glad I did because it's all part of the story and I was rolling the dice.
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A
Yeah. Now you never know. All it takes is one track.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Yeah. One land.
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B
Yeah. I always believed I was gonna win and. And so I don't have many regrets when it comes to the fight side.
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A
Did some of the losses ever get to you mentally? Did. Were they hard to bounce back from? Some of them.
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B
You know, I had an experience in college as a, as a wrestler at UC Davis, where I had a season where I won or I lost maybe like 10 or 11 matches by one point or overtime. And I remember just how it felt, whether I, it was the same effort, the same preparation. I go out there and compete and the one determining factor of how I felt was whether they said I won or not. And it's point based and everything else, but the next year I, I Had won about the same amount of matches in one point or overtime. And I remember both scenarios. I was training my butt off. I was giving my. My best effort. I did everything in my power to win, but it would affect me losing. Just. It would bring me down for the week. And so that second year and looking back at it, I was just like, you know what? I'm only going to worry about the things that I can control. I'm only going to let the things that I can control affect me. And so I've always had a pretty good, like, head when it came to just leaving the experience and taking the lesson.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Comes to wins and losses.
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A
That's an interesting point. So the margin of error is very small, it sounds like.
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B
Yeah. And I mean. And honestly, you can only control so much. You know, I've had fights where I've felt like I lost and I won, and I still feel really good. Cause they said I won and vice versa. Like, a fight that you feel like you won and they say you lost and you feel like crap. And so you just have to, like, take out other people's opinions on it and just focus on your preparation, your effort, and hold your head high on that. And so I was always pretty good at stacking those odds in my favor. And so I was able to walk away and not feel like, oh, you know, beat myself up too hard.
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A
Yeah, I mean, you had a really long career. I just found out yesterday the average career is three fights in the ufc.
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B
Yeah, someone said that. One of the. One of the staff just said, actually, it's two fights.
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A
Two fights. Wow.
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B
Yeah, two fights is the average.
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A
That's crazy, because these guys spend their whole lives to get into the UFC and then two fights.
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B
Yeah, it's crazy. It's. It's. It's a tough business, man. Kids, you know, keep studying.
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A
Now I see why you're so successful in business, because you defied all the odds in the ufc.
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B
Yeah. And for me, and I'm not sure, you know, you were talking about kind of the early stages of the fight game, but we're literally talking about. I mean, I get considered. I'm a fairly young guy, and I get considered a pioneer in the sport because I started when it was illegal in California. I mean, literally the only fights happening were on indie casinos. Uh, there was no weight class for me. There's no women in the sport. You know, the idea of a woman fighting in the UFC was like, it was never going to happen. Ana said it was never going to happen. You know, there was no lighter weights. So I got to be at the wild west of this thing, and, you know, being somebody that, you know, got $200 to show up, show up for this first fight. $200 to win. Sold a couple tickets to where it is now is pretty awesome.
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A
Wow. That's what they were paying back then. $200?
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B
Yeah.
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A
Holy crap.
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B
Yeah.
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A
That's crazy. We talk a lot on this show about making money online, building leverage, but most people still think you need a huge following to start. You don't. That's why I've been looking into Fanview. It's a platform where you can take content you're already making or content you want to start making, and actually turn it into income. And it's simple. You create content, upload it, and start building a direct relationship with your audience. From there, you can offer exclusive content subscriptions and basically build recurring income around what you're already doing. What I like is how accessible it is. You don't need a big audience. You don't need experience. You can start from zero and grow it into something real. And it works across niches, not just one type of creator. It's really just about starting and then scaling from there. So if you've ever thought about building something online but didn't know where to start, this is one of the easiest ways to do it. Are you ready to start your own creator journey and make it big? Visit www.fanview.com today and launch your career. No, I literally can't believe that. Yeah, like, the fact that you were doing it for that amount of money shows to me you weren't in it for the money.
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B
Yeah, absolutely. I mean. I mean, first off, it was illegal in California, so the only fights I was having were in casinos. I had my first eight fights on indie casinos. There's no weight class for me. There's no weight class in the ufc. The best guys that were winning championships in the ufc, and they're holding three events a year, were getting, like, a couple hundred grand. And for whatever reason, I set off on this journey to be a professional fighter and these visions of being rich and famous when no one was really rich and famous at the time, but. But I would forget that I was even getting a paycheck until it was all over. I'm like, oh, wow, 200 bucks. And eventually you started selling tickets on the lower region. And that's why I started doing business, was just to find a means to be able to fight. I started my first business when I was directly out of school. I Stayed on as wrestling coach at UC Davis. And I started tlc. Top of the line coaching, which I was coaching kids and working at some of the schools around there, doing camps and that kind of stuff, coaching wrestling for 7,000 bucks a year. And then started fighting. Wow. I mean, I have my emergency teaching credential, so I got like a. A little, you know, opportunity to go teach. It was going to be like 14 bucks an hour. I took my first fight, made 200 bucks to show up, 200 bucks to win. I sold tickets, so I made an extra a hundred bucks. It took me a minute and a half, and I was like, 500 bucks. I said, this is for me. That was a good money at the time. And, you know, I was busing tables and coaching at the school and. And that was my first business, tlc. And then I started doing, you know, alpha male clothing. I did a licensing deal before I even knew what licensing deals were. My buddy, Mark Manfreda, rest in peace, who, you know, started making alpha male shirts for the football team, and he'd give me a little cut. He'd do his own designs that are proven by me. And then, you know, I, I was like learning the hard way about business. I bought my first house, moved all my buddies in back when. Before the economy crashed. And, and you know, the reason the economy crashed, because people like me could buy a house. I had no money. The 08 crash. Yeah.
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A
Yeah.
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B
All the strippers and all the fighters were able to buy houses.
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A
You got a loan at 2% interest.
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B
Yeah. To the reverse, Mort. And, you know, proof of income. You, you're, you're. You just do a column, what your income was. There's no real proof of income. And I said, start on the real estate game. And, you know, kept on doing more. Open the first gym, my gym that's currently here. It's 20 years ago in Vegas. It's in Sacramento.
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A
Oh, in Sacramento.
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B
Yeah. But open that. So started managing guys. So, like, a couple of years into my fight career, I had like, four businesses enabled to be able to fight.
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A
Wow.
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B
Yeah. Which is kind of asked backwards, but,
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A
yeah, I don't see many fighters that can do that these days. I feel like they're all focused on their, Their craft now.
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B
Yeah, I mean, guys are getting more educated. There's some real heavy hitters when it comes to. To business in our sport, but it is far and few between.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Like now I could, I could name some of the guys and girls that I say are like, okay, these guys get business. And I've been Able to kind of mentor my guys throughout the years to become entrepreneurs. Like guys like Chad Mendez and Clay Guida and you know, actually T.J. dillashaw, he's a, he's a former champion and a business guy also. And Cody Garbrandt and Josh Emmett and Andre Feely and like all these guys that started fighting but also have the business acumen. And so it's been cool, man. I feel like it's been a fun, fun life and a fun process and I'm. And I'm still getting better at. At the business side. I'm still deeply involved in the fight game.
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A
Yeah, it is.
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B
Join myself.
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A
It is interesting when you study the most successful athletes in whatever sport and you look at their net worth, they actually make more money outside of the sport that they specialized in.
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B
Yeah, I'm definitely in that boat, unfortunately.
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A
I mean, I would.
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B
I was. And I was. I was like a. The poster boy and, and a champion and everything else. But the sport is. Has a long ways to go and had a really long way to go. Back of the day.
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A
You were too early. Yeah, yeah. People got to give you your flowers because, yeah, you were getting 200 bucks a fight. Now they got this Paramount deal, which is like a multi billion dollar deal.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Must be crazy to see that, right?
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B
Yeah, it's pretty awesome. Yeah. And I, and I, and I really have a lot of respect and admiration and, and. And really appreciate Dana White and Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta and Ari Emanuel and I mean, I'm watching these guys moves and you know, they are black. Black belts in business and obviously very passionate about what they're doing. So it's pretty cool and inspiring to see what they're doing. And I've taken my little success and tried to do my own little empire and you know, I've got all these other little things going and it's. It's been fun, man. It's been. It's been a blessing to be in the sport and at the beginning of it, to be in it at. At this point, I feel, I feel very.
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A
Yeah, yeah. You got a lot of stuff going on. A lot of businesses. You were showing me robot right before this. Do you see that one as the one with the most upside out of all your businesses?
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B
I mean, it's hard to say. So the robot robot bjj.com if you guys are looking for the world's best grappling dummy, that thing is incredible. We have patents and trademarks. It's. It's got an amazing utility that, that all the best in the world are raving about, you know, guys like Gordon Ryan and Demetrius Johnson and, you know, Conor McGregor has his out in Ireland and, you know, the list goes on. But I also have a distillery, Nine Rivers Distillery in Long Yun, China. And we're doing Team Alpha Spirit. So we're launching celebrity based brands. It's kind of an evergreen business. Shout out to all the, the Longan crew out in the Nine Rivers. But so we'll be doing some really cool stuff there that has a lot of potential.
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A
I mean, I've just seen what McGregor did, right?
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B
Yeah. And this is not just one alcohol. This is, you know, we have a massive distillery and then we have the ability and the knowledge and the team to create brands. We should do one for you. Actually.
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A
Might have to get one.
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B
I mean, I could see that hair. I mean, just seeing the marketing now, you know. Yeah, but, but yeah, we're doing some really cool, really cool stuff there. I have a, a franchise that I'm a part of, Hammer Nails. It's, it's men's grooming. You know, it's, it's, it's one of the coolest. You know, it's like for all those guys that get to see their, the girls go have the, the little daughters and their moms who have these special experiences. I've got a son and we go get our, our feet done and we both had our cornrows done there. You get your, your beard shaved and it's like a men's grooming business that I have the rights to, to the locations in Northern California. There's the bigger company, they've got 61 locations now. You know, the franchise business is a great business like that. I've got, you know, gyms are my everyday thing. Real estate, that's some of my, some of my passions. The things that I spend a lot of time on, mentoring the next generation of guys. That's why I'm here now. Yeah, we've got fighters coming from all over the globe and you know, I get to be a businessman but wear sweatpants every day.
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A
So say shorts or sweatpants. That's my thing. I hate wearing jeans. They're just not comfortable, you know.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Rather wear sweatpants.
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B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's. I, I'm like, I've. I'm like, I need a job. People were trying to get me to run for like, you know, run for the mayor of Sacramento. And I was like, why? I don't want to comb my hair, I don't want to put on clothes. I Don't want to do any. I don't want a job.
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A
So I do want to hear from you about Sacramento in the current state because I just had on Chad Bianco, who I'm sure you've seen. Right. He's running for governor in Cali.
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B
Oh, I don't know.
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A
Oh, you haven't seen him?
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B
No.
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A
Okay.
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B
I'm not in politics.
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A
Yeah, I'm not either. But he was talking about Sacramento and how there's some work that needs to be done. But what's your perspective on it? Living there and being there for a while?
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B
I myself, I love Sacramento in the greater Northern California area. I was born in Santa Barbara. But there are some big problems in Sacramento. I think. You know, Covid hit us hard. We were really on the uptick with business and the culture. You know, we're the farm to fork capital of the US like, the food there is amazing. It's a government town, so there's like a real community there. And it's not like la, where things sometimes seems a little bit artificial. Like what do you do, how much you make this and that?
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A
How many followers do you have?
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B
Yeah, how many followers? I mean it's very. And I've had places in la, but I get there for like two days and just go back to sack.
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A
Yeah, I'm in, out when I go there.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I don't want to be brainwashed up there. I don't know who needs to hear this, but a lot of people are still getting wrecked by their bank monthly fees, overdraft fees, paying just to use your own money. It makes no sense. That's why I've been looking into China. Chime is changing the way people bank. It's fee free banking built for you, not the bank. No overdraft fees, no monthly fees, and access to thousands of fee free ATMs. Like, why are you paying to get your own money? And it's not just about avoiding fees. There are real benefits. With direct deposit, you unlock the most rewarding way to bank. With members seeing up to $1150 in annual rewards, you could get 5% cash back on everyday category categories like gas or groceries and savings that grow way faster with a 3.75 APY. They've also got features like Spot Me, which lets you overdraft up to 200 with no fees and real customer support. Actual humans 24 7. Honestly, my younger self would have benefited from something like this. Chime is not just smarter banking. It is the most rewarding way to bank. Join the millions who are Already banking fee free today. Head to chime.comDSH that's chime.comDSH it only takes a few minutes to sign up.
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B
We got rivers and lakes and a lot of trees. So I think there's a lot of great stuff about Sacramento. The homelessness all throughout California is way out of control. I mean, you know, I don't know what the solution is to that per se, but there's got to be one.
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A
Dude, I just went to San Diego. I didn't really feel too safe out there. Yeah, it was bad. I was staying at a five star hotel like in downtown and just walking around, I just felt so unsafe.
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B
Yeah. And I mean in California we contribute a lot of money to the U.S. and we just get the, the not just the U.S. end of the stick, man. Honestly, it's. Yeah, it's literally. Yeah. Not just the US but you guys
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A
are the fourth biggest economy in the world.
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B
Yeah. And, and we don't take care of ourselves. I don't, I don't get it. It's like, you know, it's like having great genetics and then just smoking cigarettes and watching TV all day. It's like what the we doing?
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A
To be fair, if I was homeless and I had to pick a state, Cali's got the best.
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B
Yeah. Oh yeah. Dude, if I was going to be homeless, I'd be in San Diego right now, 100% not New York. Back at one of the, you know, those little Mexican restaurants, you know, Pueblo's taco shop, whatever. Just.
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A
Yeah, you guys got slamming Mexican.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Yeah. It wouldn't be the worst spot if I was homeless. I mean, I see the homeless in New York and they just look, you know, it's freezing there and it's. Yeah. Awful.
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B
Yeah. Yeah.
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A
But yeah, hopefully you guys can figure that out because you.
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B
Yeah, it's a great thing for, for Sacramento for me is a wonderful place for my kids. They, you know, and I'm all about this, you know, being a dad. I'm like full in on the dad life. So everything's taking a back, back door to, to, you know.
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A
Wow. So that's number one.
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B
Yeah. Big time. That's all, that's all, that's all I'm trying to find time for these days. So I like, you know, trying to get the passive income up so I can just hang out with my kids all the time. Cal. In Rome, 5 year old and 6 year old and my community is like awesome. In Sacramento, it's the, you know, the holidays, the streets are blocked off. We have parades and, and this and that. We have just up the hill in El Dorado Hills where they go to school. You know, you're, you're out in the, you know, beautiful surroundings and, and little foothills and that kind of stuff. So I like that and that and, and that's part of the reason I get into the, the longevity stuff. You know, I want, I'm trying to, you know, live and stay healthy forever. I'm an older dad.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So I've got. I don't know if I told you
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A
about100.com I think you mentioned it, but
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B
what is up100.com is basically, it's like a doctor in your pocket. It's coner service that basically you can have someone come to your house, give you your blood on your schedule, take your blood. They do 140 markers. You get updated real time results on your app. They mark down every single thing in your whole, like in, in your whole medical like history that you would be caring about your male health, your heart health, your, your nutrition, your, you know, even your urine. And it gives you all these different things that it breaks down. You can deep dive or you can just look at what they're doing and then it writes you a protocol and you can either take it or not, obviously.
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A
Yeah.
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B
But it'll, it'll give you exactly what you need to do to change for your lifestyle. More sleep, more of this, less of that. And I have a little vitamin pack. I just, I ate it right here before we got on air, my afternoon one. Because for me and my protocols change in the second time around. It's got a morning pack of vitamins, it's got an afternoon pack of vitamins, it's got a evening pack of vitamins. It gives you, you know, take this creatine at this time. It can give you suggestions on the peptides and if you need testosterone and all that kind of stuff. And then it has a marketplace and it's all on an app.
- [25:00]
A
Wow.
- [25:00]
B
And my buddy in my EO group, Tyler Smith, is like, he's like a guru operator when it comes to business. He sold his, his company Skyslope to fidelity in his 30s. And, and we came down and met with Dana White on one of our meetings.
- [25:16]
A
Yeah.
- [25:16]
B
And we sat in and literally Dana was just gushing about his process and his, here's his cold plunge and here's the hot thing. And this is what I'm doing with the 10x process. And my buddy Tyler, who has the means to copy him, just went deep into it, was Spending a ton of cash. And he built himself the same thing Dana had. And him and Dana hit it off. They're sending each other pictures with their shirts off.
- [25:41]
A
Yeah, I love it.
- [25:42]
B
Yeah, it's hilarious. And so. But then he, he did what he did in that, in the real estate business, which is Skyslope was like a paperless app for realtors. And he's created this, this hundred health. And so it's been huge for me. I put on a lot of weight, actually, but like healthy weight. I put on like 10 pounds from just being healthier. And I was always thought I was very healthy, but like, knowing for sure is a different animal. And for me, that, that kind of stuff is like all about my kids. You know, I'm, I'm doing, doing that feeling. The results for my kids, I'm up with them early. I'm. I'm getting down to their level. I'm playing with the kids. I'm, I'm, you know, I'm just, I'm all in on the dad life.
- [26:26]
A
Love it, man. Yeah. Health is a new wealth, I think.
- [26:28]
B
Yeah, absolutely.
- [26:29]
A
Yeah. Because you and I know a lot financially successful people, but if their health isn't right, there's the respect isn't the same. You know what I mean?
- [26:35]
B
The respect isn't the same. But more than that, they're. It's not going to be their wealth. They're going to die, and it's going to go to their. Whoever the hot chick that got them or the. Or their kid or however they set it up. You know what I mean?
- [26:47]
A
Yeah. You're not wrong.
- [26:49]
B
Yeah.
- [26:49]
A
Even me. I'm 28, but I'm already getting into all this stuff. I got a sauna.
- [26:53]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [26:54]
A
Yeah. I'm into that. I get blood work every. Every year.
- [26:57]
B
Yeah. I've got something called Dream Body Rx. So this is like a new. A new thing where like you could get your. Your gym could provide like anything you need, like prescriptions of them, access to doctors and whatnot. There's also something called live cap, which is really good. Like brain health, gut health. Gut health and brain health are like two of the most important things. So it's like a, like a super, super probiotic that also helps with like blood flow and this and that. That's something that I do. My mom has me taking this because on my results, on my doctor results, I had literally a, like an obvious issue in our family with heart health.
- [27:42]
A
Yeah.
- [27:42]
B
And I'm a great, A great athlete. You know, stay in good shape and My numbers and my results in the heart were just like terrible really. Which is just genetic.
- [27:51]
A
Wow.
- [27:51]
B
And so.
- [27:52]
A
Yeah. Because you're doing cardio every day. That doesn't make sense.
- [27:54]
B
Yeah, it's crazy. And so, and, and my, my father had a stroke when he was, you know, in his 40s and my grandfather had heart attacks. I mean he lived till he was 80, but. And I'm like, man, this is, this is real. So my mom's got me taken. I forget what it's called, but she has me taking some other Omega 3s. No, I have, I have on my vitamin packs. I have all that stuff to help with it. Yeah, my mom's been like outside the box, like, you know, natural health since I was a kid.
- [28:23]
A
Holistic. Yeah, that's, Yeah.
- [28:24]
B
I never had immunizations. I never had medicine. I never had any of that.
- [28:27]
A
Never had a.
- [28:28]
B
No, I've never type.
- [28:29]
A
No wonder you're such a good fighter.
- [28:32]
B
There's a lot of like, I'm open talking about it and it wasn't my choice, it was my parents choice back in, you know, in the late 70s.
- [28:40]
A
That wasn't a normal thing back then.
- [28:42]
B
No, it wasn't normal but they did the research apparently. And, and you know, I do my research and do my, my own decisions on, on.
- [28:51]
A
Well now there's any, there's like a hundred or seventy, I think. Yeah.
- [28:54]
B
I mean everything is, you got to research every single one. If you're, if you're a good parent, just take a look at each one individually and make your decisions. And they're changing rules and look at what they do in other, other, other countries and stuff because they do delayed schedules and everything else. But you know, my mom has been like a natural health. Like we used to. You did not, you did not want to get sick in my house. You're going to eat raw, you're getting enemas, homemade enemas. You're like, you know, garlic, carrot, beet, wheatgrass juice.
- [29:26]
A
Did she tie it to your feet at night? I've seen that.
- [29:29]
B
Tie it what to the feet?
- [29:30]
A
They tie onion or garlic to your feet at night.
- [29:33]
B
My brother got blisters from chopped up garlic in his socks. But I would, I mean, raw apple cider vinegar was like either in us and on or in us or on us or my whole life. It was like you're taking a bath in it. If you got something on your skin, you're drinking it, you're holding it on, you know, if on a, something that's bothering you on your on your arm vinegar. It's like.
- [29:58]
A
I mean, I prefer that than a pain pill.
- [30:00]
B
Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, I'm, I'm a firm believer in all that stuff. It's, you know, it's one of the reasons where, you know, I feel like I've aged well and I've been an athlete for so long, but now is there's the next stage of it. Now I can have a doctor in my pocket and I've got all these little things, you know, the probiotic, the yogurts and, and that kind of stuff. This, this live cat probiotic is literally like. There's a Dr. Yinka Davies, and she's a gastrointestinal doctor for kids, and this is her little baby and she happens to be in Sacramento, so I was lucky to link up with her, but, man, I've seen like a huge, huge benefit and like, high level endurance athletes are using the, the live cap also.
- [30:45]
A
Wow.
- [30:46]
B
And so you might have to come
- [30:47]
A
out of retirement, man.
- [30:49]
B
Yeah, I just did a competition last week.
- [30:51]
A
I saw that 46. That's impressive.
- [30:53]
B
Yeah. I got Henry Cejudo and at the
- [30:55]
A
end of the month, really?
- [30:56]
B
Raf.
- [30:57]
A
Oh.
- [30:57]
B
Because Real American freestyle wrestling.
- [30:59]
A
Wow. You're still going at it?
- [31:01]
B
Yeah. Just for fun, I have my, My own fight promotion. A1 Combat and UFC Fight Pass. That was what I did last week. We had a bunch of great fights, you know, and then doing this. Raf, the sport of wrestling is very important to all us wrestlers.
- [31:17]
A
Yeah.
- [31:17]
B
Like, it's like a big, it's a, it's a big part of people's success, like whatever you learn from it, like the experiences and whatnot. So I love that there's this. Raf. Have you seen that at all?
- [31:28]
A
I heard of it.
- [31:29]
B
Yeah. So they're, they're you. They've got some big matches. Yoel Romero and Bo Nickel and, you know, Clay Guida and Chad Mendez and all these fighters that are wrestlers first are going and competing there. Just, you know, it's, it's a, it's a great event. You get paid. But it's more about the wrestling mafia, we call it.
- [31:48]
A
Right.
- [31:48]
B
Like, you know, there's like a real, real bond there. The wrestling mafia.
- [31:52]
A
Do you think wrestlers get the respect they, they deserve at this point?
- [31:56]
B
Over the last 25, 30 years, since MMA has been prevalent. I mean, on a, on a bigger level. No, like at colleges and whatnot, we're always the first programs to get kibosh.
- [32:08]
A
Oh, really?
- [32:08]
B
Yeah. Right now, Cal Baptist University in Southern California. My wrestling coach took over that Program and got A Division, Division 1, and. And programs have died throughout the years because of Title 9, which is equal men to women. Schooling else like wrestling gets. Gets ripped out, especially in Cali. Yeah. And Cal Baptist is, like, fighting for the program right now.
- [32:33]
A
Damn. Is that a financial reason or why is that?
- [32:36]
B
Well, yeah, they're. They, they. I mean, supposedly you don't really know, but they're just. They're easy to pick on. Right. And so, you know, save CBU wrestling. If you guys are out there and want to help save a program, we need more programs in. In. In the wrestling world. But my. My coach from. From college took over that program. And now Mark Munoz, who fought in the ufc, and Derek Moore, who is a national champion for my alma mater, UC Davis. I was a coach when he, you know, was at UC Davis. They're the coaches now, and they just got a. Called in the office and they're cutting the program down and. And real American. I mean, that's an Olympic sport. In college, we just get to, you know, we get. We're the redhead stepchild, man.
- [33:19]
A
Jeez. Yeah. When I was in high school, the sport I chose got, like, the least amount of respect.
- [33:23]
B
Yeah.
- [33:23]
A
Track and field.
- [33:24]
B
Yeah.
- [33:25]
A
Runners got no respect. Yeah.
- [33:26]
B
You respect the ladies.
- [33:27]
A
The sprinters, they're very attractive. Yeah.
- [33:30]
B
Yeah. Goes in shape. Yeah. Little. You know, the sprinters motor in the back of the Haunted.
- [33:38]
A
The sprinters get more respect than distance runners.
- [33:41]
B
Yeah.
- [33:41]
A
100%.
- [33:42]
B
Yeah.
- [33:42]
A
Yeah. I was a distance runner, so we were like, bottom of the totem pole.
- [33:46]
B
Yeah.
- [33:46]
A
What.
- [33:46]
B
What Was your event?
- [33:48]
A
800, so the half mile and the mile.
- [33:50]
B
Oh, wow.
- [33:50]
A
Yeah.
- [33:51]
B
What was your mile time?
- [33:51]
A
4:40. Wow. Yeah.
- [33:54]
B
My best mile time was a 509.
- [33:55]
A
Damn, that's fast. Pretty good for a wrestler.
- [33:58]
B
Well, we had to do it in the mornings and it's freezing outside.
- [34:01]
A
Yeah. That's freaking fast.
- [34:02]
B
And we go out there. That was my bad. I was normally around 5:20.
- [34:05]
A
Well, with cleats, you probably could have broke five.
- [34:08]
B
We had two guys on our team that broke five.
- [34:10]
A
Yeah.
- [34:10]
B
I was not one of them. I mean, 509 was very good for your hype.
- [34:13]
A
It's very good.
- [34:14]
B
Yeah, I was.
- [34:14]
A
Because I had a bit of an advantage.
- [34:16]
B
Yeah. You're a length six.
- [34:18]
A
Six.
- [34:18]
B
Yeah.
- [34:18]
A
Yeah. But I look back at that, and if I knew what I knew now about dieting and nutrition, oh, my God, I think I could have ran like a 420.
- [34:26]
B
Yeah. What do you think about the peptide stuff and all that?
- [34:28]
A
Love it. Anything natural. I'm about peptides are pretty natural. Our body produces them. I've tried stem cells, I haven't tried peptides yet. I know everyone hypes up TRT and stuff.
- [34:37]
B
Yeah.
- [34:37]
A
But I'm still kind of.
- [34:38]
B
I've never, I've never done any testosterone or anything.
- [34:41]
A
Oh yeah? What' your T levels?
- [34:42]
B
At my T level on that. I forget what the, what the actual numbers were, but I was. For my age. I'm 46.
- [34:49]
A
Yeah.
- [34:49]
B
Was super. Was super, like, I think optimal. Okay. Like almost 700 and then. But the free testosterone for me was like off the charts. So I was like a free testosterone of like a 26 year old.
- [35:02]
A
Well, it makes sense because I feel like fighting. You're developing a lot of tea for that.
- [35:05]
B
I don't know, I mean, I, I have a lot of friends that. That their T levels were super low. I think it's more about the diet
- [35:11]
A
and really, as a fighter, their T
- [35:13]
B
level were low at, I mean, at my age.
- [35:16]
A
Oh, at your age?
- [35:16]
B
Yeah.
- [35:17]
A
Well, after 35, I think you start dropping pretty.
- [35:19]
B
Yeah.
- [35:20]
A
Pretty quick.
- [35:20]
B
So I never tested any of that stuff prior, but, and I, and I, I talked to my buddy Tyler when, when I did that 100 protocol. The first one. Yeah, it gives you like a biological age and tells you all the things you need to do. And he was like, called the doctor, like, how come your eyes not getting tested? Tests? And he. But there's available testosterone and there's free testosterone. And so the free is what you actually utilize and, and what really matters. And the available isn't as important.
- [35:46]
A
Yeah, I've heard that.
- [35:47]
B
So you could get your, your available up to like 1200, but somebody with much lower available testosterone is utilizing more of their available testosterone, if that makes sense. I think I'm saying that right. No, you are, you testosterone specialist. You can correct me, I have no freaking clue.
- [36:03]
A
So when you were like in the ufc, you weren't doing blood tests, you weren't tracking your zero. Wow.
- [36:08]
B
Which, yeah, my buddy Tyler couldn't believe it. And I was like, you know, literally. I mean, but I, but I, I gotta say, I didn't really need to. I was, I felt stronger than most people. I felt in better shape than most people. I was top, top three in the world for 12 years.
- [36:26]
A
Yeah, you had a long, you know,
- [36:28]
B
at the, at the top fighting for world championships and this and that. I didn't know. Some journalists actually let me in on the secret that there was a bunch of people cheating. I never know what. Yeah.
- [36:39]
A
Steroids or.
- [36:41]
B
Yeah. Especially before USADA was in. Apparently people were doing all sorts of stuff and then there's stuff after USADA that like EPO and, and like stuff that they can't track. So I had no clue about any of that stuff and anyone is doing on my team. They wouldn't tell me. I'm like the dad, you know, you snitch on them. I just would probably try to talk some sense into them. But in retrospect, you know, some of these guys that are cheating, it's like the get versus the, the get. The. It was a calculated risk, I guess.
- [37:10]
A
Yeah.
- [37:11]
B
I never did.
- [37:11]
A
Well, there's some long term effects to that too.
- [37:13]
B
Yeah.
- [37:14]
A
Like, are you willing to trade years off your life to take steroids every day?
- [37:17]
B
Well, also on the testosterone front, once you start implementing like a supplemental testosterone and maybe, you know, I, I probably will once I get a point where I need it just for quality of life and for health purposes and everything. But then you're, you need to, you need to continue.
- [37:33]
A
You got it for life.
- [37:34]
B
So the guys that do it early, like you're 28.
- [37:36]
A
Yeah.
- [37:37]
B
Like, if I were you, I would, I would do the100.com. I'll, I'll get you a membership for. Yeah, it's, it's really.
- [37:43]
A
I love taking tests like that.
- [37:44]
B
Yeah. And then, and then it'll tell you. But there's, there'll be a bunch of lists of natural things that you can do to try. All right, well, let me, you know, lift my lift legs or eat these foods or whatever to try to get it up yourself. But if you could postpone, you know, doing anything that isn't just what a 28 year old should be doing, then I would just wait 100. Yeah.
- [38:06]
A
Yeah. There's guys taking TRT in their 20s now, which is.
- [38:08]
B
Yeah.
- [38:08]
A
Mind blowing to me. Yeah, it's mind blowing.
- [38:11]
B
Well, I mean they're just, they better make some money.
- [38:14]
A
Yeah. Because they got to be paying for AI on the. Yeah, you better make some dough now a little worse. Yeah. AI is pretty scary, man. You've been playing around with any.
- [38:23]
B
Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. I mean it just makes everything so much easier.
- [38:27]
A
Yeah.
- [38:28]
B
Like, but I've, I've caught it up. Like, what do they say? Like AI is still trying to please you. So it'll come up with some.
- [38:36]
A
Yeah.
- [38:36]
B
And be wrong and, and like it'll have like phantom things that never existed and stuff. So you have to be careful with it. But I use it for, for functional stuff. And I mean it's so I need to pride. Dedicate a little more time to it.
- [38:50]
A
Yeah. You can't rely just on one. So when I use AI, use five different ones and I'll ask it the same question. Because like you said, some are wrong, some you got to fact check.
- [38:58]
B
What are the five that you use?
- [38:59]
A
Claude. Gemini Grock. My favorite is Claude Manus and Chachi Beat is like the worst these days. Is it really?
- [39:07]
B
Yeah, that's the only one I use.
- [39:08]
A
Yeah. I would try some other ones. Gro's pretty. I heard Grok, but that's the Twitter one.
- [39:12]
B
Okay.
- [39:13]
A
Gemini is Google's. Claude is some other company. Anthropic. I think Manus is pretty good.
- [39:18]
B
What do you use AI primarily for?
- [39:22]
A
It's actually surprisingly good at health advice.
- [39:24]
B
Yeah.
- [39:25]
A
You know what I mean? So, like, I'll import my blood test. I'll import my.
- [39:28]
B
Do you do blood tests?
- [39:29]
A
Yeah.
- [39:30]
B
Okay.
- [39:30]
A
And I'll ask for like, I put my MRI into it. I asked what can I improve?
- [39:34]
B
Once you did your blood test, did you do anything to act on it?
- [39:39]
A
Yeah, so I had some deficiencies. I had magnesium deficiency, vitamin D deficiency.
- [39:43]
B
I had both those as well.
- [39:44]
A
Yeah. So I took some. Makes you get third party tested. Supplements.
- [39:48]
B
Yeah. Ty. I trust my boy. Ty Cloud Tyler, like, whatever he's doing, they have a market on the app.
- [39:54]
A
Oh, okay. And so he privated those companies.
- [39:57]
B
He's a vetting machine.
- [39:58]
A
Yeah. Because there's a lot of BS Supplements. You got to be careful because when I was younger, you know, you want to cheap out on, but when it comes to supplements.
- [40:04]
B
Yeah.
- [40:05]
A
You can't do that.
- [40:05]
B
I never did any supplements. I never had caffeine or anything till I was like 30, 36.
- [40:12]
A
Holy crap. Yeah. The fact that you were at the top of the game without any supplements, any blood test is crazy. Hard work and good diet.
- [40:20]
B
Yeah. Yeah, good. A life, a lifetime of good diet.
- [40:23]
A
That's good. And no Jabowskis.
- [40:25]
B
Yeah.
- [40:26]
A
Got to be careful on YouTube. Shout out to the mom for that. Man, your mom was ahead of her time because that was. She must have got a lot of shit for that from other parents.
- [40:34]
B
Well, you know, back in the day, it wasn't as. There wasn't as much money behind it. So it was basically, you know, you just tell the school, I'm not going to do it, and you sign a waiver. But then as of late, like, it's gotten. It's gotten like now they forced you to get it. They're like, they're going to kick you out of the California especially California. California is like. I mean, California politicians are basically just for sale.
- [41:01]
A
The worst.
- [41:02]
B
The worst. The worst of the worst, man.
- [41:04]
A
How are you going to approach that with your kids when they want to do sports and they.
- [41:09]
B
I'm not worried about anything ever.
- [41:11]
A
Yeah.
- [41:11]
B
I'm just not.
- [41:12]
A
I love that mindset.
- [41:13]
B
Yeah.
- [41:13]
A
You can't live in fear.
- [41:14]
B
Yeah. I. When I was talking with Jaslyn about. About our kids, and I just said, she's like, what about the school? This and that? And. And we're not completely out of, you know, conventional medicine. Like, we're not, like, opposed to everything.
- [41:32]
A
It has its time and place.
- [41:33]
B
It has time and place. So. But, like, we can just do our things our own way. And she's like, well, what about this? What about that? The doctor trying to talk, like, heavily talking right when the baby's born. Like, I got, you know, the printout of a. Of one of the. I think it was a D tap, because. Talking about doing a delayed. Delayed thing, if anything.
- [41:53]
A
Yeah.
- [41:54]
B
And. And the late. And someone's like, oh, see if they'll give you the printout because the doctors won't give it to you. And this and that. And I. So I asked the doctors, can I get the print out of that thing? No. Like, that comes on the actual. And she was like, yeah, sure. He gave it to me. But they had never read it. And I read it, and it was telling us not to do it till she was two on the thing.
- [42:15]
A
What.
- [42:16]
B
And I was like. I was like, I wonder if these doctors ever read this stuff, you know, like.
- [42:21]
A
No. They give them those shots right away.
- [42:23]
B
Yeah. So I. So, you know, I just. I'm not worried about anything.
- [42:27]
A
Yeah.
- [42:28]
B
I just.
- [42:28]
A
You can't be, man. Too many people are living in fear and freaking out about the future.
- [42:32]
B
Fear is not something I'm. I could give two shits about anything. That's scary.
- [42:36]
A
Yeah.
- [42:37]
B
That didn't scare me.
- [42:37]
A
That's why you did well as a fighter, because you could see highlight videos of your opponents and get in your own head. Right?
- [42:43]
B
Yeah. Yeah. I'm not. Yeah. You got to have a little fear, fearlessness to get into the.
- [42:47]
A
Yeah. Because you could. You could lose the fight before you even enter mentally.
- [42:50]
B
Yeah.
- [42:51]
A
Yeah. And you probably seen guys where that's happened to. Oh, yeah.
- [42:54]
B
Yeah. And a lot of that, you know, I try to with my team because my team is one of the longest standing teams, which is very difficult because you're dealing with some, you know, people that have trauma in their lives. A lot of times that have become fighters. Not all of them, but I just try to create, like, a very healthy environment that is like a family environment that loves and supports you regardless of your ups and downs or this and that and is there in thick and thin and that kind of stuff. But a lot of these people need that.
- [43:27]
A
Yeah.
- [43:27]
B
Some of the. Some of the fighters that. That need the team the most didn't have the best family environment or have, you know, they obviously had something that made them a warrior and made them, you know, want to succeed and whatnot. But a lot of them need that stability and really enjoy the stability.
- [43:42]
A
I could see that.
- [43:42]
B
Yeah. And then I've got a lot of. A lot of tough fighters that do come from a very good family. I mean, the fight. The fight world, you get rich, poor, you know, great. You know, great families, crappy families. You have people from all walks that jump into that thing. But I will say, you know, a strong support system has been something that I've seen in. In champions throughout my time.
- [44:06]
A
Khabib's a good example. Right.
- [44:07]
B
Yeah. The support system is huge. Like, knowing that no matter what you've got, someone's got your back.
- [44:13]
A
Yeah.
- [44:13]
B
You know.
- [44:14]
A
Yeah. Because it's hard to navigate that space by yourself, I feel.
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B
Yeah.
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The fame, the spotlight, the money, the wins, the losses. You need someone to talk to about all that.
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B
Yeah. Some level heads. And I mean, and sometimes family is not the best. You might have to cut some family out or minimize them.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You know, for me, not as much. No. But I've seen a lot of people that have had to make some hard decisions about their family because they're too
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critical on their performances.
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B
Just all sorts of different stuff. You know, you got all of a sudden, the money, Everybody's hands are out. You got so many different things that can happen in people's ugly colors come out. Or maybe they had a lifetime of. Of unhealthy relationship and they just start to realize it when they get into more of a healthy environment or it starts to show its ugly face.
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A
Yeah.
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B
There's a lot of. A lot of. A lot of people. And I'm sure all sorts of industries have to, you know, protect themselves from negativity, you know.
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A
Yeah. Navigating the fame in the. These days, they call it cloud or whatever. Social media, followers. That's been an interesting thing to do.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know.
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B
Yeah. How's it been for you? What was your upbringing like? What did you. I grew up.
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A
Yeah. Middle class, half Asian, half Irish, dad was an alcoholic.
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B
What kind of Asian?
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A
Chinese oh, cool. So I had, like, best of both worlds, right? So my mom came from China, super hard worker, so I got the work ethic from her. My dad was just a genius IQ alcoholic. Like 160 IQ.
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B
Wow.
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A
So he was just, like, mad smart and didn't need to try in life, so I experienced both of that. Got bullied a lot growing up.
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B
Were bullied.
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A
What.
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B
What kind of? Just.
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A
Just like, just bouncing friend groups because I'm half Asian, half white, so I never really fit in with the Asians, and I never fit in with the white people. So I was, like, bouncing friend groups a lot, trying to fit in, trying to be cool.
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B
I just gave me goosebumps, man. Yeah, I hate to hear that.
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A
Really?
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B
That you were bullied?
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A
That's.
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B
Yeah, that pisses me off.
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A
I had a lot of trauma from that, for sure.
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B
I had a. I have a good friend, Chris McCarley. His son actually is doing a. The hey Henry show. I don't know if you're into ripping cards or what.
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A
Oh, yeah, I used to rip a lot of cards.
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B
Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'd like to have. Hey, I'd like to have Henry get on the podcast sometime. But they started the school. Chris is in my EO group. He's a businessman. He's a. You know, just like, when I look at his family, I'm like, wow, that's. That's. That's goals, you know, the way they treat each other, you know, the success that they have. Like, they have some pieces, like the faith that. That I really respect. And. And he started a school three years ago because his son was going to go into high school, and he was like, I'm not putting my kid in regular school. And. And our school that. Because I have my kids going there. It's all about, like, that would not fly.
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A
Wow.
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B
You being bullied would not fly. You'll be called out by the kids, would be called out by the teachers. It's like, it's a big focus on. On how you treat people.
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A
That's dope.
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B
And. And then. And also entrepreneurship. So you got some strong leaders. And. And those kind of schools are getting really popular. Like the. There's the. What's it called? The. I'll forget. I forget. They have a series of. Of schools that are kind of out.
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A
I've heard of these. Yeah, I've heard of these.
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B
Acton. Acton Academy. That's one also.
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A
Yeah, I think Elon or someone started one. There's one in Texas.
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B
I've heard of I think Zuckerberg just got in trouble for having one on his property. Oh, yeah, Hawaii. I just saw a meme about it. Like, he got busted for the traffic. He had, like, 14 kids and his own little school in Scom Pound.
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A
I mean, I don't blame him. Man, public school is a dangerous place. There's drugs everywhere. There's bad influences.
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B
So how'd you deal with that? I mean, how did it manifest?
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A
So it turned me to become really shy, really introverted, Never want to speak up, because I took the flight route where some people are more the fight route. They'll fight back. So I just, like, cornered myself and never really spoke up. And then, yeah, I had a lot of trauma from it, but now I feel like it's way worse for kids because they're getting bullied on social media too. So it's 247 now, whereas when we went to school, you know, once you got bullied in school, it was over when you got home. Unless you had bad parents.
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B
Yeah.
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A
That's another thing. A lot of these bullies come from bad parenting.
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B
Yeah, exactly.
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A
So you got to look at it from that perspective. And I just found out the kid that bullied me, like, now he's a heroin addict.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I honestly feel bad for him because I think he just had a really tough home environment, you know what I mean? And he was taking it out on me.
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B
That reminds me of Billy Madison, where he starts making phone calls and he calls. He calls the one guy, and he's like, hey, you know, I just. This is. I just want to call and say, I'm sorry, man, for everything I did. He's like, oh, that's okay. And then he, like, hangs up the phone, and. And then he puts lipstick on, and then he crosses off people to kill. And Billy Madison.
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A
I love that scene. It's. It's relatable, though. You know, you. You have this resentment.
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B
Yeah, no big deal, man. No, no sweat off my back, like.
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A
Yeah, but that resentment's not healthy.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know, so I had to get rid of that, because I definitely had it at first. It was actually a big reason I wanted to become an entrepreneur and become successful.
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B
Yeah.
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A
All the bullying.
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B
Yeah. They say success is the best revenge.
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A
Exactly. So, yeah, then I got some success, and I was like, this isn't healthy. I can't continue to have this resentment.
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B
Yeah. And so your first business is what?
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A
I did E Commerce. I did Jersey, similar to you, clothing, apparel. And that did. Our peak year was 1.2 million in sales. Wow. So Yeah. I was making like 50, 100k a year profit. And as a college kid, that's crazy money. You know what I mean? Like.
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B
Yeah, but how. How crazy is it how small the margins are in the clothing business?
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A
That's why I got out of it. It's like 15% margin. And you're working so hard.
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B
And restaurants, clothing.
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A
It's like I invested in a restaurant. I lost everything. So I won't do that again. But, dude, this was great. Where could people keep up with you and support you and all that, man?
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B
Yeah, just my social media is Uriah Faber and that's it. You'll see me cornering, guys. You can get me on Instagram or X, I think, and Facebook and all that good stuff.
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A
Awesome.
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B
And check out some of that stuff I talked about.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Safe. CBU wrestling. Let's get. Let's get the wrestlers the rightful opportunities to. To get education and compete and. And shout out to my babies.
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A
Cool.
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B
And Rome. Love you guys.
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A
Hunter.com. we got robot.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Hammering else distillery.
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B
Yeah. The. The. The team office beers. You guys are here that hear about that soon.
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A
Cool.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Stay tuned, guys. Peace.
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B
Let's go.
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A
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