Was History Always Controlled? | Dom Lucre | DSH #1967

Summary

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Digital Social Hour - Episode Summary

Podcast: Digital Social Hour
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Dom Lucre
Episode: Was History Always Controlled? | DSH #1967
Date: May 16, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Sean Kelly sits down with Dom Lucre, an outspoken commentator and conspiracy theorist, to explore the provocative question: "Was history always controlled?" The conversation dives into manipulation in historical narratives, orchestration behind major cultural events, celebrity dynamics, media programming, and the pervasive reach of elite powers—from Hollywood to modern social media and streaming platforms. Both Sean and Dom challenge conventional thinking, offering controversial perspectives on figures such as Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King Jr., Nicki Minaj, Donald Trump, and the broader entertainment industry.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Orchestration of History and Public Events

• Manipulated Historical Narratives

  • Dom asserts that many landmark historical events are not as spontaneous as presented, specifically referencing the Rosa Parks bus incident:
    • “Rosa Parks famously sat in the back of the bus, but that was an orchestrated event.” (00:00, 03:47)
    • Claims NAACP reps and photographers were intentionally staged at the event.
    • Suggests repeated attempts to stage the event before it became publicized.

• Questioning Historical Imagery

  • Dom points out the clarity and presence of photos for historic civil rights moments, arguing that such documentation wasn’t "organic":
    • “Negroes weren't supposed to be that interested back then to follow them with cameras. No one questions that.” (04:31)
    • Compares this to present-day major events with more tech but “less notable imagery.”

• Predetermined Power Structures

  • Insists that U.S. presidents and political outcomes are largely predetermined by unseen elites:
    • “We could assume at least 89%.” (08:02)
    • Claims Barack Obama and George Bush are cousins, underscoring the closeness of those in power and hidden familial ties. (06:34)

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The Entertainment Industry: Messaging, Manipulation, and Control

• Award Show Symbolism & Orchestration

  • Discusses the Grammys as an example of organized messaging:
    • Dom notes color themes, pins, and celebrities seemingly receiving "marching orders" to conform.
    • “Almost every celebrity that received an award…had to identify with being against ICE. It was inorganic...There was a quid pro quo thing.” (00:56)

• Paying and Programming for Civil Unrest

  • Claims that riots—especially during Republican administrations—are orchestrated, funded, or manipulated by powerful actors (e.g., George Soros). (02:28-03:36)
  • Suggests this is to maintain a narrative that Republicans cause division and chaos.

• Music Industry Manipulation

  • Asserts artists are rewarded for spreading certain messages (e.g., division, nihilism, sexualization).
    • “They are [rewarded]. A little baby...song bigger than black and white...Democrats wanted us to believe that there was true racial division...give it Grammys, make it the biggest song.” (13:38)
  • Explains the bait-and-switch: artists like Doja Cat and Lil Nas X start with ‘innocent’ branding, then pivot to controversial or provocative messages aimed at youth. (17:11-17:46)

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Power Players: Celebrities, Handlers, and Defectors

• Nicki Minaj vs Mainstream Industry

  • Dom outlines Nicki Minaj’s battle with Jay Z and Roc Nation, and her alliance with Trump after he pardoned Desiree Perez:
    • “Nicki Minaj has intentionally been going against Roc Nation, Jay Z...So it's not just like she's a Republican. There's a real battle going on behind the scenes.” (09:58)
    • Suggests Minaj is now "untouchable" and able to reveal industry secrets.

• Eminem, Drake, and Kendrick: In or Out of the Matrix?

  • Eminem is described as extremely intelligent but “still plugged in for his own safety,” forced to issue weak criticisms of Trump. (14:31-15:30)
  • Drake, while initially promoted, is seen as not pushing propaganda, and thus allegedly targeted by the industry. Kendrick Lamar is viewed as "perfect" for industry messaging due to his performative approach. (15:43-16:24)

• Escaping the System

  • Kanye West is cited as one of the few “out the matrix,” though most dissenters are less vocal. (18:31-18:47)
  • Discusses how major artists are disillusioned with labels, as streaming offers more financial freedom and independence. (18:55-19:46)

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The Rise of Streaming, New Media, and Elite Adaptation

• Industry Power Shifting to Streaming

  • Streaming is recognized as more lucrative for artists (T-Pain, Ty Dolla $ign) than record labels.
  • However, Dom warns the elites have already moved to dominate the streaming and social media space, citing the example of top streamers pushing controversial or sexualized content. (19:50-21:24)
    • “They've already realized that's where the youth is at...The elites have moved on from Hollywood.” (21:02)

• Programming and Perception

  • Hollywood and streaming both use narrative and symbolism to shape public perception— from casino movies glamorizing losing games to movies subtly pushing government-approved themes. (22:03-22:40)
  • Dom urges listeners:
    • “Everyone needs to...look in the mirror and can say, I can be manipulated.” (22:40)

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Surveillance, Influence, and the Reach of the Intelligence Community

• Mind Control: History and Today

  • Open discussion on MK Ultra, “5150 contracts,” and how agencies like the CIA and FBI have influenced entertainment and potentially the podcasting space itself. (24:01-24:36)
  • Dom details the “5150 contract”—allegedly used on celebrities like Britney Spears and Kanye West—to legally force psychiatric holds and control. (24:11-25:39)

• Handlers and Surveillance

  • Both discuss the prevalence of "handlers" for celebrities and notable internet personalities, used for deeper control and surveillance, referencing Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell as high-profile examples. (25:39-26:02)
  • Dom shares a personal anecdote about intelligence agents moving into his apartment complex after gaining popularity online, stating that “once you get a million followers, you get added to a specific list of intelligence agencies.” (27:15-28:22)
    • “If you go to the gym, them gonna go to the gym too. Like that's their actual job, dude. They're waking up, going to sleep just to follow you because of the tweets that you had.” (27:13)

• Spiritual and Psychic Influence

  • Claims the CIA even maintains a “psychic department” and can use remote viewing for surveillance. (28:51-29:06)
  • “There's a psychic department of the CIA. So yeah, that's self explanatory. There's no need for that. Unless they believe in it.” (28:56)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “History itself is manipulated. Rosa Parks...that was an orchestrated event.” – Dom Lucre (00:00)
• “Almost every celebrity that received an award...had to identify with being against ICE. It was inorganic.” – Dom Lucre (00:56)
• “Republicans should never have any type of weight in the culture because...we have rain that the country loses itself. But these things...they’re orchestrated.” – Dom Lucre (02:28)
• “Barack Obama is cousins with George Bush.” – Dom Lucre (06:34)
• “He [Trump] chose not to play the game with them...He said enough is enough and the American people need to start having some of the pie.” – Dom Lucre (08:23)
• “Nicki Minaj has intentionally been going against Roc Nation, Jay Z in the entire industry.” – Dom Lucre (09:58)
• “They want to initially get the kids. It’s a bait and switch...Literally giving Satan a lap dance. My, this ain’t fake. This is intentional.” – Dom Lucre on Lil Nas X and industry manipulation (17:11)
• “Streaming is killing the labels...one year of streaming is better than eight, nine years of being a rapper.” – Dom Lucre (19:02)
• “If they see something as a threat, they buy it. That’s just the reality of the world we live in.” – Dom Lucre (21:03)
• “The best people that are puppets, the best slaves, are the ones that truly don't believe they can be broken and can't be controlled.” – Dom Lucre (22:40)
• “Once you get a million followers, you get added...to a specific list of intelligence agencies. Whether you're a good or bad creator.” – Dom Lucre (28:22)
• “There's a psychic department of the CIA. So yeah, that's self explanatory. There's no need for that. Unless they believe in it.” – Dom Lucre (28:56)

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Selected Timestamps for Important Segments

• Rosa Parks Orchestration & Civil Rights: 00:00 – 05:50
• Music Industry Manipulation & Award Shows: 00:56 – 08:08
• Nicki Minaj, Roc Nation, and Trump: 09:58 – 11:56
• Celebrity Handlers, MK Ultra, 5150 Contracts: 24:01 – 25:39
• Streaming, Social Media & New Paradigms: 18:55 – 21:40
• CIA, Surveillance, Spiritual Influence: 27:15 – 29:06

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Conclusion

This episode of Digital Social Hour is a wide-ranging exploration of elite manipulation in history, entertainment, music, and modern media. Dom Lucre presents a worldview where nearly every significant public event or figure is carefully curated or orchestrated for a broader agenda, with celebrities both as pawns and occasional defectors. The conversation is energetic, controversial, and challenges listeners to question their assumptions about media, history, and reality itself.

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Transcript

[Dom Lucrate]

A lot of things. I mean, even history itself is manipulated. Rosa Parks famously sat in the back of the bus, but that was an orchestrated event. That bitch not only had a car, she had a husband that could drive. What did Nicki Minaj go do? She went to go work with President Trump. It's not just like she's a Republican. There's a real battle going on behind the scenes. Eminem seems like he's a very brilliant individual, but the things that he say against President Trump, and I'm not just being biased. It's almost kindergarten takes. That is forced.

[Interviewer]

Okay, guys, Dom Lucrate on the show got him out here in Vegas. Yeah, I don't think you've been out here in a while, right?

[Dom Lucrate]

Yeah, it's been some time. I haven't came since 2024.

[Interviewer]

Wow. Okay. What you doing out here?

[Dom Lucrate]

Coming out with Gary, man. You know, getting some wins at the casino. Gary's been killing it with numerology. Had to come out here and experience it myself.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, I saw you guys cash out the other day.

[Dom Lucrate]

Yeah, we did. We've been cashing out about every day, man. So every day has been a win.

[Interviewer]

Sports betting or what's the game?

[Dom Lucrate]

Sports betting. Yes. Nice.

[Interviewer]

Let's go, bro. A lot going on lately. Did you see everything that happened with the Grammys yesterday?

[Dom Lucrate]

Yeah, I did. I see that you have a lot of celebrities that's going out to attack Nicki Minaj, specifically at the Grammys. But one thing that I've noticed when I'm looking at the Grammys, that's the most interesting thing to me is how the fact that almost every celebrity that received an award or somewhat even a nomination, they had to identify with being against ice. And it feels like, to me, that it was inorganic. It wasn't organic at all. It appears as if they had marching orders that to receive this, it was a quid pro quo thing for them to receive a Grammy, they had to somewhat dis ice, disrespect President Trump and pretty much stand against the system as a whole. And you can see some type of uniformity among all these celebrities with the color themes. They were wearing, the weird masks, the weird type of outfits. They were wearing a lot of red, a lot of black, and a lot of white specifically. And Hollywood is somewhat weird. People will always dress weird. People always dress strange. But there was something very unique about last night. And most Americans, I think, could see that, that there was a different theme last night. They were there intentionally trying to look a specific way, and all of them had These ice out pins. So it was orchestrated. Who created the pins? Who told people to put them on? I mean, celebrities cost millions of dollars to even get them on TV or even have them in the building for five minutes. How could you convince all of them to wear a uniform pin? I mean, who has that much power, who has that much money that can afford all these celebrities that have the same messaging? So it's something coming from the very top of the industry itself.

[Interviewer]

It is interesting. A lot of the stuff in Minnesota seems to be orchestrated as well, with the ice, all the issues.

[Dom Lucrate]

Yeah, you definitely see it. You can see that. You can see the riots throughout America. And it's not random. Every time there's a Republican that becomes president, we'll have more riots, the city will be on fire, there'll be more civil unrest, and it'll lead the people to think that these people should never be in power. Republicans should never have a power. Republicans should never have any type of weight in the culture because it appears anytime that we have rain that the country loses itself. But these things, as you said, they're orchestrated. They're orchestrated attacks, they're orchestrated bombings, they're orchestrated stabbings, they're orchestrated lootings. That's going on in these riots. These things are orchestrated to make it look like the Republican Party causes division when they get elected. That's the reason why, you see George Soros takes years off when Joe Biden is there. And that's the reason why you see a whole lot less racial division online, is simply because as soon as Donald Trump or a Republican is president, they got to create the narrative that this is a racist party. And every time they get in control, that the minorities of the nation can't deal with them. But it couldn't be farther from the truth. They are creating these orchestrated hate campaigns, just as we just seen at the Grammys, to get the American people to stand up against the same systems that protect them.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it got exposed that some of the rioters were getting paid somehow.

[Dom Lucrate]

Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, they are. I mean, paid through manipulation, man. It's just weird.

[Interviewer]

That's crazy. When you look into actually riots in general, a lot of them are being paid in. In one way or another.

[Dom Lucrate]

For sure. A lot of things. I mean, even history itself is manipulated. Rosa Parks famously, you know, sat in the back of the bus, but that was an orchestrated event that not only had a car, she had a husband that could drive.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Dom Lucrate]

So when you look back and you and people can fact check this, if you look back and you see. Or Rosa Parks. They attempted to make this happen with her being pushed to the back of the bus and then being a. Some whole. Some big scenario.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Dom Lucrate]

They attempted to do this like two to three times prior to her having her big event. So there was a narrative they were trying to push about Rosa Parks being pushed in the back of the bus. People would ask, exactly. Why would they do that? Well, they understand that they have to have some type of frame in history to claim that's what it was. That people can feel like they are victims more than they are.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

They orchestrated. They had ins. They had ncaa, naacp. I mean, NAACP representatives out there waiting at the bus stops. They had a photographer there waiting for Rosa Parks. Didn't have cell phones. Why are there pictures of Rosa Parks during the event of her getting off that bus season? Negro. Negroes weren't supposed to be that interested back then to follow them with cameras. No one questions that. Why is it through all of these amazing parts through history, it's for. It's a photography. There's some photography. As if they was a. They were waiting on these events to happen. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Because back then you needed some time to take photos.

[Dom Lucrate]

Right.

[Interviewer]

They weren't as advanced with the technology.

[Dom Lucrate]

Yeah, you need time. Even now, when you see January 6th, we have all these PH phones, all these videos. More access to technology now than ever. But yet you have clearer photos of notable figures way back in the past, during the era of Rosa Parks, than even you do in January 6th. There were a lot of notable people that was at January 6th. But you know what you normally find regular American people, they're focusing on those that were more violent than others. But had this been in the past, you would see frames of black and white. Of who? All of the notable conservatives that were at January 6th. That's correct. So it makes me wonder if we have more technology, more accessibility to photos and to visualize our history, why do we see less of it? It's because it was never that organic. They orchestrated it from the beginning. The history itself, that's possibly a lie.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. They hyped up Rosa Parks. They hyped up mlk.

[Dom Lucrate]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Look at all the stuff getting exposed about him.

[Dom Lucrate]

Yeah, definitely. They hyped up Martin Luther King. And it's shown that Martin Luther King, he. He was taught through a communist school. He learned everything he know through working with communists.

[Interviewer]

They just released a lot. I don't know if you saw. They released some new information about him recently. Yeah, orgies and weird shit.

[Dom Lucrate]

I've been seeing that stuff. And it makes you wonder, I think, if I'm wrong, Martin Luther King was able to meet four to five presidents. I don't care how special you are, Ain't no can meet four to five presidents in their life unless you're at the very top.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

And you start to see these things. People, they don't believe that blacks could be put in these type of positions of power to where they're somewhat controlling the world. Barack Obama is cousins with George Bush.

[Interviewer]

Wow. I didn't know that.

[Dom Lucrate]

Yeah. Barack Obama and George Bush are cousins. A lot of times when Michelle Obama gets with George W. Bush, she would typically get a lollipop from George W. Bush. He would bring like a lollipop to George. Well, to Michelle Obama. Because when Barack was a child, George Bush's father would typically give Barack Obama a sucker. A lollipop.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Dom Lucrate]

Like, just like, you know, his little nephew. And Michelle Obama and George Bush. George W. Bush finds it so funny. And you can look this up on the Internet. Anytime they meet with each other, George Bush has this little ritual he does with her. He gives us her a lollipop and she just laughs. And just with that being said, it shows how the higher ups have their hands on a whole different reality than anyone that's beneath them, because everyone else, they might think it's some friendly banter of, you know, just the president, the former president, and the first lady sharing some candy just might seem friendly. But to them, it's much more. It's much more. It's like a show of force, a show of power that they don't understand that we're playing in their faces. It's a joke. It's a joke in itself. The fact that the American public don't know that they're cousins and don't know that he used to get those suckers as a kid. That's the joke. The joke is that, nigga, we had this plan from the very beginning. It's hilarious that it went through and they don't even see it. You see, we're dealing with real evil. And one thing about evil I noticed, when it gets away with something, it likes to brag about it.

[Interviewer]

Charlie Kirk makes you wonder how many presidents are predetermined.

[Dom Lucrate]

We could assume at least 89%.

[Interviewer]

I used to think Trump wasn't, but I don't know. With all the new stuff, it's hard to say, you know.

[Dom Lucrate]

Well, I do know for a fact President Trump, he stood against secret societies that we know. I know personally, majority of this fraternities, secret societies, absolutely hate them. Masons, really. The Hermetic Order of the golden dawn, even the Eastern sports.

[Interviewer]

What did he do to stand up against them?

[Dom Lucrate]

I think he chose not to play the game with them. Well, I think he chose to stop playing. More than anything, I think he chose to stop playing. I mean, Trump was always one of the most powerful people in the world. Hollywood accepted him. We all know how Hollywood get down. He had to somewhat have Hollywood's trust. I think the problem was that he said enough is enough and the American people need to start having some of the pie. I think that's the real problem, that he knew how much they were getting over on us. Nothing. President Trump just thought it was unfair. It's time for the American people to not only get the truth and start having some access to real freedoms.

[Interviewer]

I mean, he did release the files. Yeah, he said he would. And they got even.

[Dom Lucrate]

With his own name in it.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. That's just a lot of them. Right.

[Dom Lucrate]

Even with his own name, he's not trying to take his name out. He's giving people the documentation. His own. That's the shoes.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. That was a big dividing point. I noticed in the. Especially in the.

[Dom Lucrate]

Right.

[Interviewer]

The files. But now that they're released, seems like there's some unification and gun.

[Dom Lucrate]

Yeah, it is. And we're not even done yet. Hopefully before December, we could get the full release of all the files. But what we're at like 20%, 12% of the files being released.

[Interviewer]

Anything stand out to you from the current files that got released?

[Dom Lucrate]

Of course, the stuff with. I have to say what's very interesting

[Interviewer]

is Jay Z. Yeah, that one didn't shock me, actually.

[Dom Lucrate]

It didn't.

[Interviewer]

Jay Z. Nah. I mean, Jay Z, bro.

[Dom Lucrate]

What shocks me is that fact that people are waiting on it for so long and they finally get something with Jay Z. Which of course, Pusha T was more at fault from what it claims.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

But a girl alleges that she went to meet with Harvey Weinstein and she woke up and Jay Z was there.

[Interviewer]

And I've heard stuff about Jay Z for years, though.

[Dom Lucrate]

Yeah. Almost every creator has, like on the inside. But what I find so odd and interested, man, about Jay Z. I gotta sit up on this one.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

So it relates to Nicki Minaj. And I gotta drop this bombshell. Okay. When Nicki Minaj was beefing with Jay Z a few weeks, months before all of this happened, it was initially said that she was beefing with Jay Z over money that he owed her. Well, as you can see, over the past decade, Nicki Minaj has been taking shots at Jay Z, taking shots at Devil Worshipper and etc. But there's someone that's in Rock Nation that Nicki Minaj focused on and it's Desiree Perez. She's the CEO of Rock Nation and she was arrested for trafficking drugs. President Trump pardoned Desiree Perez during his last administration. She was trying to take down ROC Nation over the past six months. And then Jay Z was put in lawsuits against Nicki Minaj. He was turning the industry against her, which he verified. All these things happened behind the scene on Twitter. And what did Nicki Minaj go do? She went to go work with President Trump, who just pardoned Desiree Perez. President Trump has the most power in ROC Nation right now. Nicki Minaj has intentionally been going against Roc Nation, Jay Z in the entire industry. So it's not just like she's a Republican that's supporting the cause and there's a real battle going on behind the scenes. And let's believe that she got approval from the very top to be able to tweet and say that babies are being sacrificed. She got approval from the very top to say that there is true satanic origins in this industry. Because this is a actual process of an expose. People asking, where are the files? Where are the files? Well, this is how it's done. This is how you expose the truth to the people from the very top intelligence agencies. They work with celebrities to get this information out to the masses. It's not random that Nicki Minaj was just going back and forth with Jay Z, Desiree Perez, and now she's working with the individuals that quite frankly, they'd have to work for. ROC Nation wouldn't even exist if President Trump didn't part of them. They owe President Trump. Now she's untouchable. Wow. And now not only that, you can see that she got the gold card. Why the was Nicki Minaj one of the most powerful black women in the world, but yet couldn't be an American citizen? That's the leverage they had over her head to keep her in fear. She was always a slave. She seemed a whole lot more free than she appeared. This might be her first time in her life being free.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Dom Lucrate]

And what she's doing with that freedoms, she's exposing the truth. It's real Satanism going on out here. There's real people sacrificing babies to ball and Moloch. And whether people want to accept it or not, we're in an era where they're going to have to face those unconventional truths.

[Interviewer]

So she's out here playing chess.

[Dom Lucrate]

She's playing chess. Everything is completely strategic. They like to say that President Trump playing 40 chess. I would believe that Nicki Minaj is too.

[Interviewer]

I remember because she was speaking at the event. You and I were at America Fest, and they were trying to cancel her for that.

[Dom Lucrate]

Yeah, they have. And I think it makes you wonder. Nicki Minaj is being counseled for standing by President Trump. She was initially getting canceled by being by Erica Kurt. I've always loved Nicki, but she has pushed some of the most degenerative in this world. And that's not a knock. I'm sure she's aware of that. It is what it is. She's how she had to get paid. My question is this. Why the didn't the industry ever care about her manipulating the children? Why didn't the industry ever care about the sexual imagery that she was pushing? Why didn't the industry care about her being involved with gangster rap in the beginning, in the past, when she was with Gucci Maneuver, no one cared about any of these things. The only problem is that she's now on the outside about to tell everyone else what's going on on the end. That's the real problem. Because what they do is when they see that you're no longer with the shits, their first goal is to destroy your reputation. If that don't work, they'll destroy your spirit. And then they go for the kill. They'll go for the assassination because they know that she's getting ready to drop this information. So what can they do? Make her appear crazy. Make her seem like she's distrusted. Make it seem like she's broke. Make it seem like she's struggling. Make it seem like she's desperate. Because if you can add all these narratives to this individual, it can make her less credible when she drops what she drops.

[Interviewer]

That makes a lot of sense. It makes you wonder with the rappers specifically if they're rewarded for, like, having lyrics that are really.

[Dom Lucrate]

Well, they are.

[Interviewer]

You know what I mean?

[Dom Lucrate]

They are for sure. A little baby. When his career, he was already a hot rapper. But a lot of people forget Lil Baby. First real look in the industry was when he made the song bigger than black and white. And I like the song. It's a good song. It's about pushing away from division. But when you think about narratives, Democrats wanted us to believe that there was true racial division in America. So what would they do? They push this song bigger than black and white, give it Grammys, make it the biggest song in America of the year. That way can validate the false claims that this is a true problem. Because people ain't gonna be listening to music if ain't relatable. So you're gonna make this song the number one song in the world. So you can. Nate. People are relating to it. Like, the propaganda runs deep. They have to understand celebrities. They're only an extension of media.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

They're not separate from it. It's an extension of media.

[Interviewer]

Do you think any of these music artists other than Nikki have kind of escaped that system?

[Dom Lucrate]

Yeah, there are. There. There's a few that have escaped them. Maybe Eminem.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

Holy. Eminem escaped the system.

[Interviewer]

Do you think he has?

[Dom Lucrate]

I would think he's. I would think he's in it more than most. Really?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

I would think him and stopped going

[Interviewer]

to those award shows a while ago. That's why I bring him up.

[Dom Lucrate]

It finds it really hard. So at least from his political choices, because it's like Eminem seems like he's a very brilliant individual. But the things that he say against President Trump, and I'm not just being biased. It's almost kindergarten takes that is forced. I know he's smarter than that. So it's like, okay, who's paying you or who's threatening you not to speak in support? But it's not even like when I see Eminem speak on anything else. That ain't Trump. It's extremely intelligent with Trump is kindergarten. He's talking about his dick size. He's talking about. You get what I'm saying? He's talking about his hair. And this is the Eminem that's rapping. This is an Eminem that was trying to have a serious conversation. When they don't have anything that's legitimate to actually talk about. It makes me feel like these people don't even genuinely hate Trump if you're talking about President Trump's dick size. But you can have an educated conversation about the things you like and don't like in life. There's a problem with that because you don't actually have a true stance.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

It's easier to give out insults when you don't have a stance even at the top level, like Eminem. So I feel like he's somewhat. He's very aware of the matrix, but I think he's still plugged in for his own safety.

[Interviewer]

Still too deep in there. What about Drake?

[Dom Lucrate]

Drake's someone. I think this year they're going to see how much he's against the system. I think the system's been against Drake from the very beginning. I do. I think the system has been against Drake for a long time because they

[Interviewer]

definitely pushed him at first though, because

[Dom Lucrate]

he was the number one rapper, but he refused to get involved in politics. Tupac, people love Tupac. NWA People love niggas with attitude. But all these were political rappers. Let it be known. These people constantly talked about the state of the world. These people constantly talk about the police. They constantly talked about how the system was against the black man. All these things. These were political minded rappers that changed the status quo, the culture. Drake keeps the way it is. They wanted him to push propaganda. He's not a propagandist. The only issue is that he's more focused on money than a message.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

So I truly believe they're just trying to replace Drake with someone that's a propagandist who's perfect for that. Kendrick Lamar, kenj Lamar is one of the biggest performers and I'm not saying through his performances, I'm saying he's a performative. This does a lot of performing. We're talking about a. That walked into a performance being shackled with dancers.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

Or wearing the crown of thorns and making blood come off the bottom of his head or the top of his head. He's performative as. He's very, very, very performative. He's the type of celebrity that you need at the top of the industry to push propaganda. You need him and his entire crew. So it doesn't. It's not random that him, Sizza and Doshi, all these people win Grammys. No one's listening to their. But you need these people to be relevant. That way when you give them propaganda, more people could care about it.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. I'd put.in our group too.

[Dom Lucrate]

Yes. For sure.

[Interviewer]

She started off so like innocent almost and now it's just borderline demonic. Have you seen her new?

[Dom Lucrate]

I have seen it and that's intentional because they want to initially get the kids. It's a bait and switch. They want to first get the kid fans because they know when you first come out, parents are going to do what they're going to research. You got a new celebrity come out. Parents going to research, make sure they get a feel for them before they can be comfortable with the kids knowing them. Lil Nas X. Imagine how many parents felt safe when he was riding a horse. That ended up just less than two years. Literally giving Satan a lap dance. My, this ain't fake. This is intentional. You don't go on a shift that big unless it's intentional.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

He intentionally led the kids astray. There's a lot of parents that let their kids follow L N X. Went to work and never looked back. That's the goal. It's the bait and switch.

[Interviewer]

Yep.

[Dom Lucrate]

That's the way that the enemy use. They're using manipulation and they're using trickery to get their. To get our children and sexualize them.

[Interviewer]

Billy Eilish, too, right?

[Dom Lucrate]

Yes. Yes. All of these people. Billy is started off so innocent. Next thing you know, she's pushing out to motivate kids to kill themselves.

[Interviewer]

Jesus.

[Dom Lucrate]

Like, you know, President Trump put on blast for that. It's like her type of music and. And her tweets, she. I think she had to stop because she was about to be getting investigated for it. Her tweets and the way that her music was, it was leading to a lot of kids viewing suicide as a cool option.

[Interviewer]

Jeez.

[Dom Lucrate]

It was very, like, nihilistic type of approach to her marketing that was being pushed.

[Interviewer]

So do you think anyone's escaped? Maybe Kanye?

[Dom Lucrate]

Kanye's as in being like out the matrix.

[Interviewer]

Someone that's not controlled, not, like, influenced, not kind of doing their own thing.

[Dom Lucrate]

I think there's a lot of people like Kanye. I just think majority of them a whole lot less vocal. I think a lot of these things that happen on behind the Scenes.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

But very few like Kanye that's vocal. But I believe there's a lot of Kanye out there right now more than ever. I truly do believe there's a lot of people.

[Interviewer]

Well, labels are losing their power, I think.

[Dom Lucrate]

Yeah. I mean, you've had many artists here, and I'm sure they've told you behind the scenes, like, they hate labels.

[Interviewer]

Almost every artist I've had on has said negative things, honestly.

[Dom Lucrate]

And we're in the worst era right now. I think there are proceeds right now. Their returns have never been this low.

[Interviewer]

You could go viral without a label these days.

[Dom Lucrate]

Most people that are streaming now, like, I was just with someone that was telling me that Top Dollar Sign, he makes more money streaming than he does with his music.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, same with T Pain, I think. Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

T Pain than he ever did with music. So I don't think it really is a testament of how strong streaming is. I think it's only a testament to showing how shitty the labels are. Because there's no way that some of the top artists of my lifetime should say, man, as soon as I started streaming within Eight months. That's more than I made my whole lifetime of music. That tells us that they are living a pretty shitty life and people are being led astray about how good it might actually be. Because there's no way, no way that they should be saying that one year of streaming is better than eight, nine years of being a rapper.

[Interviewer]

Agreed. Now, that being said, do you think the elites will try to control the streaming world?

[Dom Lucrate]

Yes, and I'm glad you said that, because I'm seeing it now. You see Kasana. So what, what do they do? They typically want the kids to be violent or leaders or at least to be somewhat like, incels. They have these young men addicted. I see right now. They want men to be more feminine. They want females to be more masculine. And what Hollywood does, like I said, debate and switch. They got people with these massive kid audiences. I show Speed casa knot. Yeah. Mr. Beast, Aiden Ross. What I find so interesting, although these are the celebrities at the top of the world, at the top of their food chain, somehow they still have only fans. Girls come for promotions. They'll have many skits. Like, there's been plenty of skits for Costa Knot where only fans. Girls have came in, got a promo, etc. To me, I feel like that's the industry doing what the industry does. You got the top streamers in the world still being involved in industries. And if it ain't, they're doing what? Pushing gambling? Yeah, they're pushing degeneracy. No different than hip hop. I think that they've already realized that that's where the youth is at. And I believe the elites are already in instant streaming. I truly do. And I think they'll see it more and more. I think they own it. I don't see enough people talking about this. I think the elites have moved on from Hollywood. I mean, they've been here before Hollywood, they had a plan for Hollywood to exist. They have a plan for when streaming was this. I believe they got the money.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

If they see something as a threat, they buy it. That's just the reality of the world we live in. They have access to the money. There's nothing stopping. And if they ain't buy it, they bought the most important people. So if you can't buy the systems, you can buy the people that run it. And we're seeing that because the stuff that's being pushed, it's a lot of gay shit that's unnecessarily pushed on. And I fuck with Kai. It's a lot of gay shit that was Pushed on the streams. That's just like.

[Interviewer]

I like clavicular too, but yeah, yeah, there's some gay shit there for sure.

[Dom Lucrate]

Why is this being pushed? Why is the generously being pushed? It's no different in hip hop because it's being pushed from the very top. Because that's what they want the youth to be. Yeah, they need more slaves because people that have a good head on their shoulders, they can be the same people that can take down the system that keep us in shackles.

[Interviewer]

Agreed. The elites have mastered subconscious programming for sure. They've been in the CIA and FBI. Have been involved in Hollywood since the 40s, I believe. Yeah, that's what they've said. It could be even earlier. And they have to portray. All the movies. Have to portray them in a positive manner.

[Dom Lucrate]

Yeah, I believe so. Yeah. Everything that they see in, like, it's just so great how they do the movies. Everything that they have us focus on is pretty much the opposite of what we should be doing.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

Throughout movies. Something I noticed, like with movies that they'll have you focus in casinos. Almost every casino, they focus on like blackjack, Russian roulette. Some of the most dangerous games to play in a casino where you damn near guaranteed to lose your money. Why is that the one that's being promoted in Hollywood? There's a good chance that casinos is paying off the directors.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, they only want to show them winning too.

[Dom Lucrate]

Yeah, show the games. That's hard as. Show the games of people running slot machines. That way when they go to a movie, they can think that they got a big win waiting for them. This is the world that we live in. They understand how you perceive. And I think a lot of people need to be safer with their consciousness because they understand how you perceive reality.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

And they're able to bend your will by utilizing the information they know about your perception of reality itself. So they know what to put in movies. They know what you think when you see that we have. They know what to put in the music. They know what do you think when you hear that. So people need to be more aware of their surroundings. And more importantly, everyone needs to be able to say, look in the mirror and can say, I can be manipulated. Because I found out the best people that are puppets, the best slaves, are the ones that truly don't believe they can be broken and can't be controlled. Those are the best people to control for sure. A lot of people need to have the humility and say, I might be intelligent. I might have it figured out. I Can be manipulated. I can be controlled. The CIA could target me. These are people that have been doing it to people that. As great as you are, possibly even greater.

[Interviewer]

Absolutely.

[Dom Lucrate]

So they know how to manipulate even kings. If the CIA can create coups in other countries. Do you? It's almost hysterical for us creators to think that they couldn't target us and flip our shit. You feel me?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

There's presidents, rather, there's.

[Interviewer]

They kill, literally presidents.

[Dom Lucrate]

Yeah, yeah. Kill and create coups. Change the minds of. Make presidents start wars in other countries. Because we've manipulated their minds so much. Yeah, we're number one in intelligence. So I believe we're literally in an era where CIA, FBI, etc is controlling the narratives. They are controlling a lot of celebrities, they are controlling a lot of influencers because they understand that these people control the perceptions of reality 100%.

[Interviewer]

They've been working on mind control, MK Ultra, since the 40s.

[Dom Lucrate]

Yes, they are.

[Interviewer]

You know what I mean? I actually think they've infiltrated the podcast space too.

[Dom Lucrate]

I can see it.

[Interviewer]

I think there's a lot of guests and also host.

[Dom Lucrate]

Y' all can definitely see it.

[Interviewer]

Informants are infiltrated.

[Dom Lucrate]

I even see with like MK Ultra, they have these things up in California called the 5150 contract, where a lot of people are aware when Britney Spears shaved her head, that was the specific contract that she was under when she did. So it was a 5150 contract when Kanye west got picked up and they put all the drugs in them. It's a 5150 contract. And it's the main reason why they send people to Los Angeles, California, because that's legal there.

[Interviewer]

Is that the rehab center?

[Dom Lucrate]

Well, no, it's a specific contract that allows for your management, your guardian, whoever's like controlling your money to put you in a psychiatric. Yeah, psych ward. Yes. For a. What is it? What do they call, like a mental disorder? Like a reconstruction. A brain reconstruction. So they deconstruct, like your brain. Yes, but it's a. You can look this stuff up. A lot of people and like I said, they put these things in movies. They want people to say the word MK Ultra. They want people to look at these keywords so you can't find the truth. Your whole world, your whole perception, reality opens up. When you start looking Google for 5150, you will see a lot of celebrities that were crashing out and you'll see. Look at those news articles. You'll see 5150 be referenced. So most of the Time. The truth is in our face, but they make sure to have us focus on something else because they know how we perceive it. When Britney Spears was crashing out, everyone was focused on her shaving her head, having an umbrella, and going out or going crazy. No one focused on a 5150 contract. And they make sure you ain't focus on it because they know it would be coming up again because it's something that they constantly use. They can't afford for the American people to know the way they play this game because then it's over.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, she went crazy. Yeah. Handlers are something I actively think about because you and I have to keep an eye out for them. You know, we're targets of these handlers, and I think there's a lot of them.

[Dom Lucrate]

There's a real thing. Yeah. It's unfortunate. A lot of people that get. Get handlers. They didn't even know they were handlers.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

Before they get involved with them.

[Interviewer]

Epstein. Yeah, yeah. Him and Glenn.

[Dom Lucrate]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

No, I mean, that's a big example. But there's so many. Almost every celebrity you could argue has a handler.

[Dom Lucrate]

Yep, there's handlers. This is one thing I've learned. It's crazy how much just speech voice is restricted, and it lets me know how powerful the word is because it's the most restricted thing. There's people that lose their life, there's people that lose their careers all over what they say. And it's not really because you say something. It's because they fear someone listening. Yeah, they. You can say whatever the you want if they don't think no one's going to listen. And it leads you to wonder, why is people listening such a threat to the elites?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

That must mean they either want people's ears to be shut, only want them to hear who they want them to hear from.

[Interviewer]

And if they want to listen, they can listen to you from anywhere. By the way, I was just watching a pod. They could listen to your TV through your phone.

[Dom Lucrate]

Yeah, man, it's.

[Interviewer]

It's scary.

[Dom Lucrate]

It's crazy. Yeah, yeah.

[Interviewer]

I'm always, like, a little on edge, even when I'm out in public. Like, people come up to me and I'm just like, this could be a trap. You know what I mean?

[Dom Lucrate]

Complete surveillance state.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, dude, it's scary. Like, there's a former intelligence guy that came up to me at the park the other day and it was kind of weird.

[Dom Lucrate]

Just randomly. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

You're everywhere. And so they got the eyes on you.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

I found out and not to creep you out, but our government and foreign governments do have enough money. I got a close friend that, that I'll tell you offline, that actually experienced this. They send Mossad and CIA, sometimes FBI to move into your apartment complex to keep an eye on you.

[Interviewer]

No way.

[Dom Lucrate]

I was dropping certain stuff. So it happened to me in 2023. I've never even said this before 2023, there was an intelligence agency that had moved into my first apartment complex in Nashville. And bro, I don't know exactly if they listen to your phone, but these would know when I would go out to walk my dog. No, they would know when I had to go out to eat and everything. And I wouldn't known it unless my friend told me, like, this is what, look out for it. But you have these people that's following you. If you go to the gym, them gonna go to the gym too. Like that's their actual job, dude. They're waking up, going to sleep just to follow you because of the tweets that you had. They don't know what you associated with. They don't know if you're just a conspiracy theorist because some people post conspiracies and that shit be so right they got to keep an eye on you. So I, I had that problem myself. I was getting to learn some things about the world. There were some things I posted, I was like, that was actually 100% true. But they don't know that I don't know it's 100% true. They trying to verify that. Cuz if they find out I know it's 100% true. Now they have to find out where did he get it from?

[Interviewer]

Right?

[Dom Lucrate]

Did he get it from the person that we already killed? Did he get. You know, and that's just the reality of things. But they will send them there. And it could even happen to you. I learned that once you get a million followers, you get added, quote, unquote, to a specific list of intelligence agencies. Whether you're a good or bad creator.

[Interviewer]

That's crazy.

[Dom Lucrate]

There's nowhere on the Internet that can verify that. But they claim that intelligence agencies will add almost every American individual that gets a million followers and can achieve at least a million views at least once a month.

[Interviewer]

I could see that. Because there's not many people that get to that level. Like not probably only tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands.

[Dom Lucrate]

They don't have a really hard job. Yeah, it's not that hard. Not when you have a whole entire department and intelligence agency to keep their Eyes on influencers.

[Interviewer]

Dude, that's crazy. Yeah, they've. I think they've also on a spiritual level, they can enter your life too.

[Dom Lucrate]

Oh yeah. Viewing and whatnot.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. It's not just physical you got to worry about. You got to protect your energy.

[Dom Lucrate]

Yeah. You have psychic. There's a psychic department of the CIA. So yeah, that's self explanatory. There's no need for that. Unless they believe in it.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. They can remote view your house, your office, wherever they want. Right?

[Dom Lucrate]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Past, future, it's pretty unfortunate. Crazy like you can't get away with that.

[Dom Lucrate]

No, for real, there's nothing you can do. Like you're both.

[Interviewer]

You always catch up to you.

[Dom Lucrate]

You.

[Interviewer]

Like that's. I think that's how they get dirt on people. To be honest. Like that'd be pretty smart because it's

[Dom Lucrate]

so easy for them to know exactly what you did.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Dom Lucrate]

And they could even lie to you about my having some data they don't even have. But they just did it.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, man. Well, dude, this was great. What do you got coming up next?

[Dom Lucrate]

Just a lot of video content, man. People going to start seeing a whole lot on their Instagram. Tick tocks X Cool. Most people used to my tweets, they'll start seeing a lot of me on video.

[Interviewer]

Check them out, guys. Peace.

[Dom Lucrate]

Thank you.

[Interviewer]

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