What He Learned In Palestine Changed His View Of Netanyahu... | Clyde Bosch | DSH #1992

Summary

Podcast Summary: Digital Social Hour – “What He Learned In Palestine Changed His View Of Netanyahu…”

Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Clyde Bosch
Episode: DSH #1992
Date: May 31, 2026

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Overview

In this thought-provoking and candid episode, host Sean Kelly sits down with activist and military veteran Clyde Bosch to discuss his personal transformation after visiting Palestine, his disillusionment with Israeli policies under Netanyahu, and the broader cultural, political, and religious contexts of the Israel-Palestine conflict. Clyde recounts his military background, including surviving a near-fatal plane crash, his journey into advocacy, first-hand insights from traveling in Palestine, and his take on Christian Zionism and its Western roots. The conversation is bold and unfiltered, offering both personal stories and deep dives into controversial topics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Censorship, Free Speech, and AI Safety Bias

• Sean opens by noting that an AI (Claude) flagged Clyde as a risky guest, sparking a discussion about modern censorship and the boundaries of controversial dialogue.
• [00:50 | Sean]: "Personally, I think it was the anti Semitism of the week. That’s just my opinion on why it flagged you."
• Clyde muses on increased censorship in AI platforms, contrasting ChatGPT’s higher degree of filtering to alternatives like Grock and Claude.

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2. Clyde’s Military Experience and Transition

• Clyde shares his background: five years in the US Marine Corps with roles as an infantry rifleman and Marine Security Guard at US embassies in Tokyo and Riyadh.
• [05:10 | Clyde Bosch]: “Half my time I was a Marine security guard...and my other job was in the infantry.”
• Describes the 'frat boy' reputation of Marine embassy guards, clandestine embassy life in restrictive countries, and exposure to the workings of US agencies like the CIA and State Department.
• Survived a harrowing Osprey aircraft crash during an Australian training exercise—a life-altering experience that reinforced his sense of fate and purpose.
• [16:54 | Clyde Bosch]: “It was a miracle. But also, it was the way the pilots brought us down...they put themselves in the biggest point of friction in the crash.”

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3. The Awakening: Palestine, Gaza, and Leaving Apathy

• Clyde describes how the events in Gaza, particularly the Israeli bombing of Rafah after promising it would be a safe haven, prompted him to shift from apathy to advocacy.
• [03:05 | Clyde Bosch]: “That kind of, like, red pilled me or pissed me off. And that made me realize I need to do something. So I literally grabbed my phone...looking up things I could do to help.”
• His advocacy began after his military service: “I can't speak, you know, about this stuff. In the military, you have to be very apolitical.”
• His first public content focused on Palestine, especially as a political outlier—a conservative, ex-military American—addressing what he saw as left-dominated advocacy.
• [19:24 | Clyde Bosch]: “A white guy from the military who's, you know, conservative talking about it. I feel like that's one of the reasons why my account blew up so quick.”

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4. First-Hand Experiences in Palestine

• Clyde visited Palestine for a week, staying in Jerusalem and making multiple trips into the West Bank.
• He highlights the intense segregation in Jerusalem and the stark contrast between Palestinian towns and Israeli settlements in the West Bank.
• [22:49 | Clyde Bosch]: “The West Bank is Palestine undisputedly, but Israel occupies it and they're running an apartheid state out of Palestine...”
• Notes on severe travel restrictions, different license plates for Palestinians and Israelis, and economic suppression.
• [26:00 | Clyde Bosch]: “The one thing that was ubiquitous between all the families is they didn't have income. There's like no economy there.”
• Israeli policies, including denial of building permits and the demolition of Palestinian villages, lead to internal refugee camps.
• [26:36 | Clyde Bosch]: “Where those people go is to refugee camps in their own country, bro. In their own country.”

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5. Media Narratives, Occupation, and Suppression of Palestinian Identity

• Clyde and Sean lament the lack of coverage in Western media about the conditions in the West Bank and Gaza and critique narratives that frame Palestinians as inherent aggressors.
• [27:03 | Sean]: “I don't see the media covering this.”
• [27:03 | Clyde Bosch]: “When I come out and say these things, what they say is, oh, we have to do this because the Palestinians are terrorists. And if we don't occupy them and control them, they're going to attack us...The aggressor has always been Israel since 1948.”

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6. Christian Zionism: Western Theology and Modern Politics

• Deep dive into the rise of Christian Zionism and its hold over American Christianity, tracing theological roots back to John Darby and C.I. Scofield.
• Clyde distinguishes between biblical Israel and the modern nation-state, challenging common “Christian Zionist” interpretations.
• [28:43 | Clyde Bosch]: “I think the new Israel is the church. You know, God's people is the church.”
• He argues that Christian Zionism is a distinctly Western development, not present in Eastern Orthodox tradition.
• [36:39 | Clyde Bosch]: “It is not an Eastern ideology. It is not dogma in the Eastern church. And I'm Eastern Orthodox. And that notion was never in the church.”

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7. Israel’s Relationship with Christians and US Support

• Skeptical about Israeli government’s purported alliance with Christians, especially in the US.
• [37:56 | Clyde Bosch]: “Netanyahu always talks about, like, oh, Christians are our brothers and we love you guys and we're allies...but he could not give a damn about the Christians in Palestine. I mean, he's bombing them, they're taking their churches.”
• Sean brings up free trips offered to US pastors and political figures to maintain support.

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8. Tribalism, Assimilation, and Power Dynamics

• Lengthy discussion of historical Jewish assimilation challenges, perceived tribalism and organizational strength in global politics, and the persistence of anti-Semitic tropes.
• [40:49 | Clyde Bosch]: “Because they think that they are a higher race of people and they're also very tribalistic.”
• Both host and guest stress not all Jewish people share these views, but discuss how powerful lobbying and community networks can shape US and global politics and narratives.

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9. Conspiracies, The “Matrix,” and The Limits of Control

• The conversation turns to conspiracy theories, referencing the release of the Epstein files, Pizzagate, and the idea of a global elite controlling society (“the Matrix”).
• Clyde encourages personal agency despite systemic inequalities.
• [46:35 | Clyde Bosch]: “We are in a literal matrix...But I'm trying to get men to understand that even though you're in this matrix...there is still some power that you hold.”
• Discusses stoic philosophy (Epictetus and the dichotomy of control) as a path to personal empowerment.

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10. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On bombing of Rafah:
  • [03:05 | Clyde Bosch]: "That kind of, like, red pilled me or pissed me off. And that made me realize I need to do something."
• On the crash:
  • [12:13 | Clyde Bosch]: "I just had this feeling, this dark, eerie feeling that something bad was about to happen. I couldn’t shake it."
  • [16:54 | Clyde Bosch]: “It was a miracle. But also it was the way the pilots brought us down...they put themselves in the biggest point of friction in the crash.”
• On apartheid in the West Bank:
  • [22:49 | Clyde Bosch]: "The West Bank is Palestine undisputedly, but Israel occupies it and they're running an apartheid state..."
• On Christian Zionism:
  • [28:43 | Clyde Bosch]: "...The new Israel is the church...there’s no more need for this ethnic chosen race."
• On the role of organized minorities:
  • [42:10 | Clyde Bosch]: “A well organized minority will always beat a disorganized majority. What is a population? 2% of the world… and they control our politicians and government…”
• Balancing critique and personal responsibility:
  • [49:58 | Clyde Bosch]: “Yeah, it is. They're living in a victim mentality. Like, there's still things you can do to get yourself out of the matrix as much as possible.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:50-01:30] – Censorship and AI flagging guests
• [03:00-04:15] – Clyde’s awakening to the Palestine issue: Gaza and Rafah
• [05:10-07:44] – Military background, embassy security, exposure to agencies
• [07:51-16:10] – Near-death Osprey crash in Australia
• [18:29-19:24] – Transition to activism and rapid audience growth
• [20:34-26:36] – Week in Palestine: segregation, settlements, family interviews
• [27:00-28:01] – Media silence on Palestinian suffering
• [28:43-34:01] – Christian Zionism and interpretation of Israel in scripture
• [36:39-37:56] – Christian Zionism as a Western (not Eastern) concept
• [37:56-39:29] – Israel’s real relationship with Christians, focus on American support
• [40:49-43:43] – Tribalism, assimilation, power, and conspiracy tropes
• [46:35-49:58] – The “Matrix” metaphor and personal empowerment

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Final Thoughts

This episode, rich in personal testimony and challenging discourse, threads Clyde Bosch’s firsthand military and activist experiences with historical, religious, and political critique of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict and US policy. Unflinching in tone, the conversation oscillates between on-the-ground reporting, deep dives into theology, and blunt appraisals of power dynamics, all the while urging individual agency even in the face of vast systemic challenges.

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For more or to follow Clyde’s work:

• Instagram: @the_real_clyde
• YouTube: The Real Clyde
• X/Twitter: @TheRealClyde

Transcript

[Clyde Bosch]

The west bank is Palestine, undisputably, but Israel occupies it and they're running an apartheid state out of Palestine and they're pushing more and more Israeli settlers into the West Bank. Netanyahu always talks about, like, oh, Christians are our brothers and we love you guys and we're allies and all this stuff, but he could not give a damn about the Christians in Palestine. I mean, he's bombing the people. They're the most tribalistic people on the planet.

[Podcast Host]

Okay, guys, Clyde Bosch here today, believe it or not. AI told me not to have this man on for some reason. Claude, AI calling you guys out. That doesn't happen, by the way, often.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, I don't know what it is. I. Like I said before, I think you've definitely had more controversial people on than me.

[Podcast Host]

I have. I think it's the anti Semitism of the week. Personally, I think it was that.

[Clyde Bosch]

Have you had any people who are on that list?

[Podcast Host]

Fuentes has been on that, right?

[Clyde Bosch]

I'm pretty sure he has, I think. Have you had Jake Shields on?

[Podcast Host]

I've had Jake on, but I don't think I used Claude when I was preparing for that one.

[Clyde Bosch]

Okay.

[Podcast Host]

I just started using it a few months ago.

[Clyde Bosch]

You mentioned to Claude that I got that award.

[Podcast Host]

No, all I typed was a. It was a brand new prompt. And I said, what should I ask Clyde Bosch on a podcast? That would be an interesting conversation. And it said, don't have them on. And I've. I've on chat gbt. If you ask like for a list of Epstein survivor names, it won't give that to you.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, no, Chat GPT is like. Because I. I use that one sometimes, but it's. It seems the most censored.

[Podcast Host]

Very.

[Clyde Bosch]

For sure.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Because I was trying to interview some survivors.

[Clyde Bosch]

You've got like Grock and Claude. Yeah, like, are more.

[Podcast Host]

I like. Grog's pretty good.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Shout out to Elon for Grock. I go back and forth on Elon, how I feel about him, but I think I'm up on him at the moment.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, same on some things. He's been a net positive, but same. He's. He's controversial.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. But I think overall he was good for social media.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, of course. Especially, I mean, at least for X. For X and having that open platform for free speech. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Were you even speaking out years back or. When did you start speaking out on social media?

[Clyde Bosch]

No, I've been aware. I mean, I started this like conspiracy theory journey, like down the rabbit hole over a decade ago. Like when I was in high school, but I didn't start speaking out publicly till a little over a year ago. Probably about a year ago, actually. My come up has been pretty quick.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Very quick.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah. Because I was in the military and I can't speak, you know, about this stuff. In the military, you have to be very apolitical.

[Podcast Host]

Right.

[Clyde Bosch]

And so it was really. It was all the Palestine stuff, it was all the Gaza stuff that made me realize that's what moved me out of apathy. It was Rafa. I remember that was the first time where I said. That was the first time where I grabbed my phone and I started looking up things that I could do to help because I was tracking, you know, what was going on in Gaza, and I knew they were, you know, getting slaughtered and stuff, but I was one of those people who was just busy with my own life and wasn't really looking into it and was like, what can I do to help? Anyways. But then when Rafah happened, I don't know if you remember, but it was the summer of 2023, I believe the Israeli government had dropped leaflets and they had told the Palestinian people to kind of cordoned down in the southern portion of Gaza, which was Rafah. And they were told this was going to be a safe space for you guys, like a refugee camp. We'll leave you alone, stay out of the battlefield. And people did that. Civilians all went down there to Rafah, and then they started directly bombing Rafah day after day after day. And I was like, okay, I have, like, that kind of, like red pilled me or pissed me off. And that made me realize I need to do something. So I literally grabbed my phone. I remember very distinctively. I was in my car in some parking lot, and I grabbed my phone and I started looking up, like, charitable organizations or nonprofits that I could donate to or even looking, you know, I was a veteran at this time. I had just gotten out of the Marine Corps, you know, less than a year prior to this. And I was looking up, like, contracts that I could go on and maybe go help or something, but there was nothing. There was no way to get into Gaza. And even when I went to Palestine during the height of the genocide, there was no way for me to actually get to Gaza. So I went to the West Bank. But, yeah, that's when I kind of started not waking up, but, you know, getting out of apathy and talking about it.

[Podcast Host]

And did it make you want to leave the military after seeing all that?

[Clyde Bosch]

I was already out. Oh, you were out yeah, so I had already, you know, I did five years in the Marine Corps and I had already made up my mind. I wanted to get out and do other things with my life. So.

[Podcast Host]

But yeah, yeah, because five years, isn't it four year terms or how does that work? You were in the Marines, right?

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, I was in the Marine Corps. So you can sign a four year minimum. Five, or there's six year contracts.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Clyde Bosch]

Mine just happened to be a five year because I had two different jobs.

[Podcast Host]

Got it.

[Clyde Bosch]

So I half of my time I was a Marine security guard, basically a part of the Marine security guard detachments overseas at embassies. And I worked at the embassy in Tokyo, Japan for a year and then the embassy in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia for a year or 14 months at that embassy. And then my other job was I was in the infantry. So I was an 0311 rifleman. So I did both of those jobs for two and a half years and then got out.

[Podcast Host]

Which job did you enjoy more?

[Clyde Bosch]

Tough question, man.

[Podcast Host]

Oh.

[Clyde Bosch]

So they. MSG is one of the best kept secrets in the Marine Corps.

[Podcast Host]

Msg?

[Clyde Bosch]

Marine security guard duty.

[Podcast Host]

So you can't really talk about it.

[Clyde Bosch]

What's up?

[Podcast Host]

You can't really talk about it.

[Clyde Bosch]

I can. I mean, I had a top secret clearance for, for that job, but I can talk about, like what I did. Basically, you go overseas and you work at these embassies as the security element for the embassy and you work alongside the State Department. So I was under the operational chain of command of the State departments and the RSOs that work and manage the security there. But basically, like, you're the frat boys of the embassy. Because overseas at embassy, especially in more austere environments or places where you might not have, like, bars or, you know, places to go out, like in Riyadh, for example, you don't. It's, you know, alcohol is legal there. So what they would do is they had these bars at the Marine house. So the Marines live on compound and we have our own house. We have a gym, our bedrooms, a kitchen, all that stuff. But we actually have a legitimate bar in the house. And that would kind of be the way for the embassy people to let their hair down at the end of the week. So we would throw the parties.

[Podcast Host]

Wow. So you could drink there?

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, yeah, you. We could drink there.

[Podcast Host]

Holy crap. But it was banned in the country?

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, it was banned.

[Podcast Host]

So that was like a loophole.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, it was. Yeah, it's a major interesting loophole.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Clyde Bosch]

But, yeah, no, it was a great time I got great experiences. I got to travel the world. It gave me more insight into the world and how different agencies work, especially as well, which kind of helps me with what I do today.

[Podcast Host]

I bet it does. Yeah.

[Clyde Bosch]

Like, I got more of an understanding of the working relationship and how these three. Three letter agencies operate, especially overseas. Like the agency, the CIA. I got to see them and see how they operate to an extent, as well as the State Departments. And I got like a more inside scoop of the way the government operates in foreign affairs, which was nice and a nice perspective to have now.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. So these agencies have some power overseas, not just the U.S. yeah.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, for sure.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Clyde Bosch]

I mean, the CIA is not really. I mean, they do operate here, but they're not supposed to. They're supposed to be operating overseas against foreign adversaries.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Clyde Bosch]

So. Yeah, but it was a great time, great job, had a good experience. And then I transitioned back to the States and got orders to be in the infantry or what? I was going to the infantry, but I got orders to three. One, which is a unit in Camp Pendleton. Did that for two and a half years. Did one deployment to Australia and then got out after that.

[Podcast Host]

You had a crazy incident in Australia. I don't want to brush over that plane crash. How many people were on that?

[Clyde Bosch]

Uh, 23.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, so we were. It was a training exercise. It was the last training exercise of the deployments. And it was actually my very last training exercise in the Marine Corps. Like this. This was the last thing I was doing in the Marine Corps. And then I was getting out six weeks later.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Clyde Bosch]

So basically what we're doing was a massive joint operations training exercise with us, the Marine, the United States Marines, our US army, the Australian army, the Gurkhas, which is the Nepalese special Forces. I think the French and the Brits were there as well. So big dynamic operation, training operation. And what we were doing was we were flying on Ospreys, which. Are you familiar with what Osprey is?

[Podcast Host]

Not really. I heard of it, but it's a.

[Clyde Bosch]

It's a dual rotor, tilt rotor system. So it is a plane, but it's kind of like a hybrid. So it can take off and fly like a plane, but it lands like a helicopter and it can hover.

[Podcast Host]

Got it.

[Clyde Bosch]

So. But with the design, it is problematic. Automatic. They're notorious for having issues and. And going down, which is what happened to us.

[Podcast Host]

And we make them in the US or where are those made?

[Clyde Bosch]

I believe they're made in the U.S. yeah. They're contracted out to different, you know, defense contracting companies. I think the engine is built by like Rolls Royce.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Clyde Bosch]

And you've got like, you know, Raytheon and the other big companies that contribute to the design.

[Podcast Host]

And we got to get our. Together. The Boeings are crashing too.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

You know.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah. For real. But anyways, we flew from northern Australia to an island just off the coast. And it was like a 15, 20 minute flight. Very routine. I've been on Ospreys, I've been on plenty of, you know, military aircrafts before. Never had any issues, never was worried, never was, you know, fearful. Always thought it was cool and fun. But for some reason this one was different. We got on, we had a full, you know, full flights, all the seats were full and we were going out for like four or five days. So we had a decent amount of gear, like a heavy load. And as soon as we took off, I just felt this weird, eerie ESP feeling which I've never in my life felt before and never felt after.

[Podcast Host]

Like your stomach dropped or not.

[Clyde Bosch]

It's not. It wasn't even just like a roller coaster stomach drop. It was like, I'm gonna die. Like, it felt like. And I've explained this before because it's impossible to explain unless you felt something like this.

[Podcast Host]

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[Clyde Bosch]

to chime.com disclosures but it almost felt like there was a dark presence there. It felt like the angel of death was in the bird with us or something. I can't. I just can't explain it, but I knew something bad was about to happen. I just had this feeling, this dark, eerie feeling that something bad was about to happen and I couldn't shake it. And so as we took off, I was playing over scenarios in my head of imagining us crashing and what am I going to do if we crash? And so we had to fly over the ocean because we're going to this island. And I remember looking out the back hatch and I can see the ocean below us. And I'm looking out and I'm thinking in my mind, okay, if we crash in the water, we have these life vests on, like rinky dink life vests with an air tank that has like five minutes of air in it. And so I'm testing my air gauge, making sure I have, you know, air in there and stuff. And I'm holding it right here, just preparing myself if we do crash in the water, like just thinking irrationally, like, why would we crash? There's nothing wrong with the bird, but I'm just having these dark, eerie thoughts. And so eventually we get over the water and then we get over the island. And pretty soon after we get over the island, we start having, you know, complications with the bird, which I didn't rationalize at first. I thought we were just doing what's called evasive maneuvers, which is when pilots will basically do training scenarios where they'll act like we're getting shot at and they'll fly kind of like sporadically. And I've been in the bird when they're doing those training simulations. I thought that's what it was. But we were flying very much out of control and I was getting like sucked into my seat and stuff. And then we're flying like this at one point. Wow. And I'm sitting right here in the plane and so my back is like face like parallel with the ground. And I look over my shoulder and I can see it. There's a window behind me, like right here, and I look over and I just see a straight Shot to the ground, you know, four or five hundred feet below me. And then we're coming down. And as we're coming down, we're leveling out, coming straight, coming straight down. And I'm thinking, okay, we're going to land, but we're not slowing down. We're going still full steam ahead. And I'm looking out the back hatch because it's open, and I can see the top of. We're flying over, like, this wooded area, like this forest, and I can see the top of the trees, and they're just getting closer and closer and closer and closer and closer. I'm thinking, man, we're going to have, like, a really, really hot landing or something, because we're not slowing down. Trying to rationalize it in my mind, like, I can't rationalize that we're crashing, and then all of a sudden we start to clip the top of the trees. And then I'm like, okay, we're crashing, and then we start flying straight through, and we're just ripping down trees, and the rotors are going like this, going forward like this, and we're just chopping down trees. And at that point, I kind of just accepted my fate and realized, okay, I'm about to die. And my last split second thought, we probably had, like, I don't know, three to five seconds from that point till we hit the ground. And in that three to five seconds, I just had a thought pop up in my head, and I was just thinking and anticipating how I was gonna die. And I thought three scenarios were gonna happen. One, we're gonna hit the ground and blow up, and I'm just gonna blow up. Two, we're gonna hit the ground and we're gonna tumble, and I'm gonna, you know, crust in here like a soda can, or we're gonna get torn up and ripped apart, and I'm gonna get ripped from limb to limb or something. I'm just waiting and anticipating death. We hit the ground super hard, blow up on impact, and we slide about 100 yards through the. Through the forest, and we come to a stop. And I kind of come to. We're getting thrashed around. I come to and. And pick my head up, and you just see black smoke. And, like, you can't see anything. Like, put your hand in front of your face this close, you can't see anything. But I can see orange glimmer just coming closer and closer from my rights, from the cockpit. And so I just verbatim started shouting, get the. Get the out. Get the out. Everybody was screaming like, get out, get out. Unstrap myself. Because my next thought is, you know, I survived the impact, but I see the flames coming back. I'm about to blow up. Like the bird's about to blow up. I. I need to get out of here. So we're all just shouting, get the out. And we unstrap ourselves. I climb out. I can't see anything because there's just smoke and fog and dust and fire everywhere. But I can see a glimmer of light out the back hatch. So I just go towards that. I'm climbing over packs, I'm climbing over, you know, debris and shit. And then I jump out and I run probably 25 meters straight back. And I realize I gotta check and see where the other guys are. So I turn around. You can't even see the burr. It's just black plumes of smoke and flames. And I don't want to talk about. Take the whole time, but long story short, yeah, we got, we got out. 20 guys made it out. Three marines. Three marines did not. They, they died in the cockpit. It was the two pilots and the crew chief at the front. We believe they. And I hope that they died on impact because later the only remains left was a skeleton.

[Podcast Host]

Wow. So.

[Clyde Bosch]

And then we were on, we were on that island for four or five hours until we got rescued.

[Podcast Host]

Geez. Did you have a way of communicating?

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, we had radios, but radio signal was not good. So we were, you know, once we got the guys out that were alive, we pushed back and we were just doing what are called nine lines, like a casualty, that casualty evacuation protocol that we send up. And so we were just triaging guys, treating guys and doing nine lines. And there was a multitude of injuries. Guys were banged up, some guys were knocked out, Broken ribs, broken legs, internal bleeding, concussions. You know, I feel like for a

[Podcast Host]

crash that hard, the fact that 20 survived is, is impressive. You know what I mean?

[Clyde Bosch]

It was a miracle. But also it was the way the pilots brought us down. And I have to mention this because the way the pilots brought us down, they put themselves in the biggest point of friction in the crash.

[Podcast Host]

They landed head first.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, they landed almost like a plane would land on a Runway, but a plane would land like this with the back landing gear. Yeah, they landed like this. So they intentionally put themselves in harm way to give us the best chance of getting out.

[Podcast Host]

Crazy. Did they find out why the plane malfunctioned or.

[Clyde Bosch]

No, the report came out and they got the black box, but for some reason they didn't have the past hour of communication. Radio comms.

[Podcast Host]

That's weird, right?

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

That must be frustrating, you know.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Not knowing that.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah. But I. I chalked it up and assumed that it was just the aircraft because they're notorious for going down like that.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Was that a common thing where they. They went down pretty often?

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, there was one. I mean, there was one only two months after us in Japan. And then after that one, they grounded all ospreys for like six months.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. You think they'd call them all back, right?

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

And they're still using those now?

[Clyde Bosch]

Still using them.

[Podcast Host]

Holy crap.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

You know, why would you feel safe in that?

[Clyde Bosch]

For the defense contracting companies? They got to pay them.

[Podcast Host]

They got so much money, though, they can't make some newer ones?

[Clyde Bosch]

I guess not, man. They got to do what makes money for them.

[Podcast Host]

But the military industrial complex is a big money maker, you know.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

There's always wars and a lot of funding going towards that. It's crazy. So you have that incident and then six weeks later you said you. You left. Right. So what was that transition like after. After that?

[Clyde Bosch]

So, yeah, I had six weeks left after the crash. I was in the hospital for a couple days. I was amazingly, like, not injured much at all. I had a traumatic brain injury, a concussion, whiplash, bruises and bumps, but nothing major. And then I went back, did some, like, physical therapy for that six weeks until I got out and then transitioned out. Um, and I. I took the entrepreneurship route as soon as I got out. Started doing like, e commerce and stuff like that. And then, yeah, it was later that year, probably, I don't know, six, seven months after, when I started looking into the RAFA stuff.

[Podcast Host]

Wow. And that was your big breaking story.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, for me, that was like my wake up call to start getting involved, but I didn't directly get involved. Like, I didn't start posting content and start talking about it. I, like I said, I started posting content and talking about this stuff like a year ago.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Clyde Bosch]

And I've been out for two years now, so it was about a year after I got out when I started talking about it. And like I said, when I started this journey, I was talking about Palestine. I was just doing advocacy for Palestine because I was sick of what I was seeing going on there. And I felt like people in my sphere weren't really talking about it because if you remember, during the genocide, like, the movement was started by the left. It was started by a bunch of liberal people. And I'm not liberal and I'm not Left. And so a lot of people on the right didn't want to talk about it, or they just weren't talking about it. And so a white guy from the military who's, you know, conservative talking about it. I feel like that's one of the reasons why my account blew up so quick is because I was this unfamiliar face on the other side talking about this issue, and I was bringing, you know, more nuance and perspective to it. And then also, like a month or two after I started talking about stuff and posting content, I went to Palestine. I went there to go document it and to see what was going on for myself because I didn't want to just be another person online in the echo chamber, just, you know, regurgitating the same stuff. I wanted to go and see it for myself.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, not a lot of people went there, you know, physically. So what did you. What were the big takeaways from being there? How long were you there?

[Clyde Bosch]

I was there for a week. So I flew into Tel Aviv and then I stayed in Jerusalem my whole time. But I went to and from the West Bank a hand a few times.

[Podcast Host]

Did you feel safe? Like, what was the environment like?

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, so very interesting dynamic in general. And I mean, like Palestine, the Holy Land has been inhabited, been inhabited by the three Abrahamic religions for centuries. So you have that rich continuity of that culture and that dynamic of the three Abrahamic religions coexisting there. But it's very different in going there and feeling that for yourself, especially in this political climate today, because it's occupied and run by Israel, you know, Jerusalem was taken. That's East Jerusalem is still recognized as Palestine. But in, you know, 67 and second Antifa, they took that and then, you know, took the west bank and started, you know, encroaching more into Palestinian territory. But East Jerusalem is still recognized as Palestine. But everything in the Holy Lands and I, and I encompass, you know, Palestine and what people call Israel as the Holy Land. It's all occupied and run by Israel. So when you go there, even in Jerusalem, you'll see IDF soldiers, and I believe they're called magav, which is like their border patrol, homeland security type of enforcement. You see them everywhere, fully kitted out with rifles. You see machine gun pillbox bunkers in Jerusalem, and then it's segregated. So in Jerusalem you have the different quarters in the Old City, so you have like the Armenian quarters, the Christian quarters, the Palestinian quarters, the Muslim quarters, and then the quarters. And so in the quarters you have, like the Orthodox. That's where you See the Western Wall, the Wailing Wall, and the more like traditional, very strict, orthodox living people, very segregated. And you'll know when you're there. And then you have the Palestinian quarters and you'll know when you're there. So you have them kind of segregated, but they all do live together and they're occupied by Israel. But then when you go into the west bank, it's a totally different story.

[Podcast Host]

Free for all in one sense, like they're all mixed. They're not living segregated.

[Clyde Bosch]

They are living segregated because you have. I mean, that's Palestine. The west bank is Palestine undisputedly, but Israel occupies it and they're running an apartheid state out of Palestine and they're pushing more and more Israeli settlers into Palestine or into the West Bank. So when you go across the border into the West Bank, I mean, you're actually going into another country, but in a way it doesn't feel like it. Because when you come from Jerusalem and go into the west bank, no security checks, you just go right in. But if you want to come from the west bank back into Jerusalem, super strict security, they actually have cars, different license plate colors. So the white license plates are the west bank and the yellow is like the two and from. So if you have a white license plate, you can't go to and from. You have to get special access and like a permit or whatever to leave the west bank. You come to Jerusalem. But if you have that yellow plate, you can just freely go to and from.

[Podcast Host]

That's interesting.

[Clyde Bosch]

But when you get in there, I mean, you'll see the difference between refugee camps and Palestinian villages and towns to the Israeli settlements. And so I had a Palestinian Christian guy take me in there and he was kind of explaining everything to me. When you drive in there, you'll see very distinctively a Palestinian, Palestinian village or town. And it will be like run down brick and mortar buildings with a big barbed wire fence or wall around it. And that's to keep closed into their town. And then up on another hillside, you'll see a nice brand new development for the Israelis, for the Israeli settlers to go and move there and live there and have like, you know, barber shops and grocery stores and malls and, and you know, all these things. It's very like, you'll, you'll know the difference when you see it. But this is all Palestinian territory. It's all Palestine, but it's being encroached on. I think now there's over 200,000 Israeli settlers that live there and it's all condemned by the un they're not supposed to be there. Like the Israelis are not supposed to be there. But they're moving there more and more each year. So it's an interesting dynamic when you go over there. And what I did is, you know, one as a Christian, this was my first pilgrimage, pilgrimage to the Holy Land. So I wanted to see like Christian sites, the Holy Sepulcher, places where Jesus and the apostles were, all of those things. But I also wanted to document what I saw and what's going on there politically. And so what I did is I visited nine different Palestinian families that live in the west bank. And I just got their stories, I talked to them, I had a translator and just tried to figure out what life was like in the West Bank. What is it like living here? What is your living conditions, how do you make money, how do you survive, how are you treated here? All of those things. And the one thing that was ubiquitous between all of the families is they didn't have income. There's like no economy there. It's a big tourist economy. But during, especially the height of the genocide, there was, you know, a low number of tourists that were going to the Holy Land. And then I would talk to some guys who were like construction workers or they were electricians or some, some sort of like builder. But they can't get permits to build in their own country. They have to go and get permission from the Israelis to go build a house in their own country.

[Podcast Host]

And they're not approving them?

[Clyde Bosch]

No, they're not approving it because they want to push the Palestinians out. They're trying to get them to leave. So they're not going to give them permission to build infrastructure. So they can't build. And so they're just living in these, these run down buildings or houses with like sheet metal and broken concrete. Or you have the Bedouins who literally live in tents in the desert. So it's very slummy and run down. And then you have full on like refugee camps. Because what they'll do, the Israelis, they will come in and they will bulldoze and knock over whole towns and villages and then they'll build atop that with the Israeli settlements.

[Podcast Host]

Holy crap.

[Clyde Bosch]

But where those people go is to refugee camps in their own country, bro. In their own country. So like imagine if you live here in Vegas and somebody from another country comes here and they knock down your house and they say, we're going to knock down your house so we can build a house here and you're not allowed to come back and you're not allowed to go build a house anywhere else. So where do you go? You have to go live in a refugee camp in your own country, bro.

[Podcast Host]

That's nuts.

[Clyde Bosch]

That's how it works.

[Podcast Host]

Wow. Yeah. I don't see the media covering this.

[Clyde Bosch]

No. So, like, I visited some of the refugee camps. Like, I went there. I saw what it was like. Like that. That's the dynamic there for them. And they have no governing body. They have the. The pa, which really has no authority. It's all run by Israel even. The crazy thing, too, is, like, when you're driving down the streets and on the highways, bro, you're not allowed to fly a Palestinian flag. Like, people will get arrested for putting out a Palestinian flag on their balcony. Like, that's a real thing. And when you drive down the streets on the highways, you'll see the highways littered with. With flagpoles with Israeli flags just all over the West Bank. I mean, it's totally theirs. They've taken it. But it's not theirs. It's Palestine.

[Podcast Host]

That's insane. Yeah. You went straight to the source. You couldn't. You had the truth right. Right in front of you. You couldn't read it online and get.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, exactly.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Because Israel's controlled the media. Right. So they won't ever let this see the day of light in the traditional media, at least.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, of course.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I've never seen this covered on a news article or a TV network.

[Clyde Bosch]

And then if you do, like, when I come out and say these things, what they say is, oh, we have to do this because the Palestinians are terrorists. And if we don't occupy them and control them, they're going to attack us, they're going to bomb us, they're going to shoot us when that's not the case. The aggressor has always been Israel since 1948, since before 1940. It's always been people. Even before Israel was Israel, even before Israel became a nation state, it's always been the people oppressing the Palestinians, you know, back to the Balfour Declaration, even prior to that.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. And being, you know, Christian and Israel is mentioned in the Bible a lot, how do you. How do you balance that?

[Clyde Bosch]

Israel the country?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Like, do you see a difference with how it's mentioned in the Bible versus how it's portrayed now?

[Clyde Bosch]

Of course, yes. Yeah, of course. I think the new Israel is the church. You know, God's people is the church. And so when we talk about, like, Christian Zionism, they read that word Israel in the Bible and they Equate that to the current nation state of Israel, right? And so whenever they read that, and it might say something like, Israel is God's people, or whatever the case is, they think, oh, the Israelis, that's God's people. You must bless them. That's what the Bible is talking about right here. It's talking about, you know, the current nation state of Israel. But that's not the case. And when Jesus came, he fulfilled the second covenant. When Christ came, he died on the cross and he opened up salvation for everybody before, prior to that, when, when Christian Zionists come on and they say stuff like they refer to the verse in Genesis where it says, those who bless you, I will bless those who curse you, I will curse. That is God speaking to Abraham and his lineage, the Israelites, because God needed a nation state of people who were loyal to him and faithful to him to bring on the Messiah and transfer his message. So all of the writings of the prophets in the Old Testament, those were Israelites because those were God's people to bring forth his message. The world at that time was very corrupt. It was very evil. I mean, it still is today. But he had to have his people who he could speak through. He spoke through the prophets. Christ came through the Israelites. He came through the seed of David. And so at that time, Abraham was one of the only people on earth who was faithful to God. And so God told him, those who bless you all, bless those who curse you all. Curse. He promised to be with the Israelites. And but when Christ came, he fulfilled the law. He fulfilled the second covenant, okay? So there's no more need for this ethnic chosen race, okay? That's not the case. Those are not God's only chosen people. God loves the whole world, okay? And St. Paul speaks in Galatians that there is neither nor gentile, man nor woman, free nor slave. For you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are one in Christ, you are the seed of Abraham. So what that verse is basically saying is that there is no more nation state of Israel, there is no more Israelites. That's not a thing. It's all for Gentiles. No man or woman, gentile, free nor slave. It's all, you're all one in Christ. And Christ came and built his church. Now his people are the church. There's no more need for this, like, ethnic state of God's chosen people. So that's where I come in and talk to, you know, that notion of Christian Zionism, which also was never a thing in the church. This is a westernized concept that did not arise in the church. Christian Zionism did not come about until the late 1800s, early 1900s. Theodore Herzl was the, you know, the father of Zionism, which by the way he was an atheist, but he came about in the late 1800s. And then shortly after him came a very influential man named John Darby. Are you familiar with him?

[Podcast Host]

No.

[Clyde Bosch]

So John Darby is really the guy that we can thank for Christian Zionism because he, he invented a theology called dispensationalism. And what dispensationalism is, is basically there's two dispensations. There is, he believed that he was a, a, a man who was very equipped to understand biblical end time prophecies. And he was very anti church establishment. This was during much of the, you know, the Protestant Reformation in the west in like trying to revitalize the church. So he was very anti Catholicism, anti orthodoxy, anti church establishment. And he thought that he had some foreknowledge or, you know, ability to understand biblical prophecy. And so he invented dispensationalism, which basically is this notion that there's two groups of God's chosen people. There are the, and the church. And God would have two different plans for the, and his church, but they're both God's chosen people. Okay. That's what John Darby believed. And so he believed that the actual like bloodline ethnic still were in this, you know, specific special covenant with God and they were like a protected class of people and that therefore Christians must bless those people. And his theory was that when Christ returns, he will come back in a secret rapture and he'll secret, this is where we get the rapture from. He'll come back and he will have the secret rapture of the church. God will come back and he'll bring up the Christians, the church and we're all going to just ascend into heaven and then there will be a seven year tribulation period where he basically gives the second chance to choose him.

[Podcast Host]

Got it.

[Clyde Bosch]

And that's like God's grace period for the people who rejected Christ. That's what that is all is.

[Podcast Host]

I remember when people were talking about the Rapture last year, right?

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, I mean they've been talking about it for a long time.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, no, I think some, there was a group that believed it was going to happen last year. I remember it was pretty viral. But yeah, that makes a lot of sense now. And now how do you feel about the Christian Zionism movement? Like do you feel like it's growing. Where do you feel about. Like, it's heading right now?

[Clyde Bosch]

So Christian. I mean, the term Christian Zionism didn't really appear till, like, the past year or so. That was just a way to coin those people, like to put them into a box and kind of put them over here, like, these are who Christian Zionists are. But there. That notion has always been around since Darby, and it was popularized and kind of dogmatized by a man named C.I. scofield. So he's a very influential person in this whole process as well, because C.I. scofield was alive during some of the period of John Darby, and he was. He studied Darby and Darby's teachings in. In the early 1900s, around the same time of the Balfour Declaration, C.I. scofield wrote the first ever reference Bible, called the Scofield Reference Bible. And this is actually what kind of blew up Darby's message across the church and across Christian institutions. Because when Scofield wrote his Bible, basically he didn't rewrite the Bible, but he translated it into English and then he left footnotes. So he basically tried to make verses more black and white so there was less ambiguity. And he could, you know, you would read Scofield's interpretation of that verse essentially at the bottom of each page. And, you know, he was a. He was a staunch supporter. And. And he studied Darby and believed in his theory of dispensationalism. So in all the verses where it talks about Israel or the Israelites or Abraham, he equates that to the modern nation state of Israel and modern ethnic people. Okay. So when he wrote his reference Bible, it's then started to permeate throughout all of the Christian, you know, churches and institutions in the early 1900s. So when young men were going to seminary school to become pastors, they were learning from the reference. The Schofield Reference Bible. So they're therefore being indoctrinated into this dispensationalist theology or Christian Zionist theology, which wasn't coined Christian Science at the time, but they're basically being brainwashed into believing in dispensationalism.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Clyde Bosch]

And then therefore, they go out and start churches or preach at, you know, different denominations and parishes, and that notion that Christians have to bless the ethnic becomes ubiquitous amongst American Christians, and that permeates throughout the next hundred years.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Now they're looking into who made the history textbooks in School.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

McGraw Hill. Have you seen that?

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah. And Ghislaine Maxwell's father. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Interesting link there, right?

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. And how they teach about the Holocaust and how they word certain things and.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, but it's interesting, man, because like, I've traveled, I've been to like 27 countries, I think, and this notion of Christian Zionism is a very Western ideology. It, it is not an Eastern ideology. It is not dogma in the Eastern church. And I'm Eastern Orthodox. And that notion was never in the church. The church never looked at the, like they were God's chosen people or some special race of people that we had to bless.

[Podcast Host]

Interesting.

[Clyde Bosch]

That just didn't arise until the 1800s, late 1800s, early 1900s, and then it became quite ubiquitous in the American church. And coincidentally, coincidentally, it happened to be America that becomes the biggest funder and propagator and supporter of Israel. And that ties in to the. The support, I mean, or should I say the support of the Christian Zionists tie into that. That's why Israel is so obsessed with getting pastors to go over there and to these, do these hasbara tours and to maintain that Christian Zionist support in America. Distinctively, they do not care about Christians outside of America, really. No, no, no, no, they don't. So Israel, you know, Netanyahu always talks about, like, oh, Christians are our brothers and we love you guys and we're allies and all this stuff.

[Podcast Host]

We.

[Clyde Bosch]

But he could not give a damn about the Christians in Palestine. I mean, he's bombing them, they're taking their churches. And it's, you know, when I talk about Palestine too, as a Christian, sometimes I get attacked by the Christian audience because they think I'm like, you know, some Muslim supporter, which, you know, I love Muslims as, you know, people created in the image of God. I don't agree with it, but like, they'll attack me and say, oh, you're just fighting for Muslims. Why don't you fight for Christians? I'm like, I am, I am fighting for Christians in the Holy Land who are still staying there and dying, you know, maintaining the Christian roots in the Holy Land. And those people are being bombed and genocided and enslaved by the Israelis. Like the Israelis do not give a rip about Christians outside of America only because the American Christians support them and fund them.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I always thought it was weird how they give them a free trip. Didn't make sense to me. You know what I mean?

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Like, how is that, how are they the only ones doing that?

[Clyde Bosch]

And I think Netanyahu, don't quote me on this, but I think he just said something. You know, he was like attacking basically non Christian Zionists. So Christians who are not Christian Zionists. He said something lately to that effect?

[Podcast Host]

Wouldn't surprise me.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I've seen Brandon Tatum's experience in Israel. He mentioned how he got spit on.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So it doesn't seem like they're treated very kindly over there.

[Clyde Bosch]

No, they're really, really nuts. I mean, it doesn't. I mean, if you're not sure, you're not treated kindly.

[Podcast Host]

Let's just be blunt about it. Right.

[Clyde Bosch]

I've been there. If you're not. And then also if you want to go one step further, if you're not Zionist and most people in Israel are Zionists, but if you're not specifically and. Or Zionist, you are not. You are not treated well there.

[Podcast Host]

So are the Zionists the ones that support Netanyahu, in your opinion?

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, the Zionists, the Likud Party, and I would say mainly the Zionists, because you have, you do have a difference between people like non Zionist and Zionist people. My, my main thing is, you know, the Zionist. It's not just Zionism, have had an issue integrating and assimilating to other cultures for centuries, not just with the founding of Zionism, although Zionism is what a lot of people want to focus on and talk about. And it's a big problem and we need to address it. But there is a bigger elephant in the room, and that's the fact that people collectively have not been able to assimilate well in other societies for centuries, ever since their exile from Judea, in what year was it? 135 A.D. when Emperor Hadrian exiled them from Judea and there was a mass, you know, Diaspora out of Judea. They have not been able to assimilate in other cultures or societies for centuries. That Jewish question has been around for literally hundreds of years. It did not arise with Zionism.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Why do you think they have trouble assimilating?

[Clyde Bosch]

Because they think that they are a higher race of people and they're also very tribalistic.

[Podcast Host]

This is what they call other people.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah. And we see this. And again, here's the thing, man, like just a few months ago, and I talk about this because when I started, you know, coming after Israel for, you know, genocide in Gaza and stuff, everybody on the left wants to talk about Zionism. They want to say Zionism, Zionism. Don't say Jew, don't say Judaism, only address Zionism, otherwise you're anti. A literal, anti Semite. And no, it's not all. You need to understand that. And this is integral to the way that they live in their society and their culture. They're very, very, very that they're the most tribalistic people on the planet. Because for centuries, ever since, you know, even before 135 AD, they have been ostracized and kicked out of lands they cannot assimilate. Well and after 135 AD, when there was that diaspora and they would go into Europe and Asia Minor and Northern Africa and parts of the Middle east, they could not assimilate and they would get kicked out and banished from all these countries, you know, the 109 countries or whatever they've been kicked out of. What they do is when they get to a specific location, they work together to bring each other up and once they pull the other, their fellow pull up the ladder. So they're very good at organizing. And there's that saying a well organized minority will always beat a disorganized majority. What is a population? 2% of the world. 2% of the world, my man.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Clyde Bosch]

And they control our politicians and they control our government and they're. They're able to commit a genocide live stream. It's the most undeniable obvious genocide in human history. And get away with it and nobody's going to hold them accountable. And they can be talking in the Epstein files about how Goyum are these nation state cattle slave people who have to submit to us and people are smarter and if you're like 98 Jew, you're like super smart. That's what they're saying in the files. So they're literally vindicating the people like me who, who talk about that. Yeah, they actually genuinely think. And it's not all. I do have to preface that it's literally. It's not all, but there is that ideology within their culture that they do think that they're a higher race. And we can't ignore that. And it's not all of them, but it is, it is quite ubiquitous.

[Podcast Host]

It is. Well, they actually do, you know, believe it or not, have a slightly higher iq.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, they do.

[Podcast Host]

So I will give them that.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah. I mean they are smart, they're cunning.

[Podcast Host]

Good with money too.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, good with money. My lawyers are good at organizing. And I think, you know, to play devil's advocate in a way, I think they've kind of done that as a survival mechanism probably because they've been kicked out of so many places. They do kind of have to ban to together at the detriment of the GoAM 100%. Because they know that when they incorporate their schemes and their plans and their usury, the goam are going to come after them. So they need to covertly take control first before that can happen. And they've done that in America. Their full effect doing that in America.

[Podcast Host]

You think they're going to drag us into some more wars?

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, of course. I think we're on. On the brink. We've been on the brink of. Of a war in Iran.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Clyde Bosch]

I think is very, very close.

[Podcast Host]

That seems to be the next one. And that's like the. I think that was the final one in the 911 plan. Right. There was like a list of six or seven countries. So this has been pre written. I feel like.

[Clyde Bosch]

Like it has been pre written. Have you, have you read. Are you familiar with Albert Pike?

[Podcast Host]

No.

[Clyde Bosch]

And Morals of Dogma?

[Podcast Host]

Heard about.

[Clyde Bosch]

So I'll put some people on. Read the book Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike. He was a 33 degree Freemason. He was also a. An American Confederate general during the American Civil war and a 33 degree Freemason who wrote this book called Morals and Dogma, which he basically called it the Bible of Freemasonry. And in his book, in the 1800s he predicted three world wars.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Clyde Bosch]

And the first world wars that took place happened word for word the way he said it was going to happen.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Clyde Bosch]

And the last one he said was going to be between Israel and. I believe. I don't remember exactly, but something to the effect of Zionism and Israel against the other nation states.

[Podcast Host]

Holy crap.

[Clyde Bosch]

And he said this in the 1800s and the first two world wars played out how he predicted they would play out.

[Podcast Host]

That man's a time traveler.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, time traveler. Or he had. Or there is a global cabal that is just orchestrating all of this, which is what I think.

[Podcast Host]

That's what I think. The way Charlie was taken out makes me seem like that was very orchestrated, you know.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah. I don't think this is all by chance. I think everything is orchestrated by the Matrix.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Clyde Bosch]

I think they have a plan for everything and they're very good at making sure those plans come to fruition.

[Podcast Host]

I mean, look at the files. What's been released so far. That's not even all of it. How planned everything was.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

It was like systematic almost, you know. It's crazy.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So there's been a lot of conspiracies that have been debunked in the past month because of the files getting released.

[Clyde Bosch]

Mm. Pizzagate.

[Podcast Host]

Pizzagate. Wayfair. Adrenochrome.

[Clyde Bosch]

Adrenochrome, bro. I remember talking about that because I was, you know, I was going into conspiracy theories back in like 2015, 16, but I wasn't talking online. I was like in high school. But I remember talking about Pizzagate and Adrenochrome and just people calling me crazy.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, 100% like bad.

[Clyde Bosch]

Like bad shit. Tinfoil hat wearing lunatic.

[Podcast Host]

I remember talking about astral projection, which was mentioned in the files. And people were like, this kid's insane. Like people literally stop being friends with me because of it.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah. But I think the other thing with the files is it proves that there. I don't think it literally does. It proves that there is a global cabal of elitist class people who are running everything, every system. The monetary system, the financial system, the education system, governments, the military, industrial complex, trade, everything.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that's how he made his money, allegedly. Right? Trade.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, trade. And what was his name? Wexner. Yeah, Les Wexner.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Clyde Bosch]

Who donated like $500 million to him.

[Podcast Host]

Pocket money for him, I bet. But yeah, it's a lot to the

[Clyde Bosch]

ordinary person, but it is just more evidence that there is the system is all being controlled. And I talk about it like we are in the Matrix, like we are in a literal matrix. And I tell people like, you need to imagine it as if this is a video game server and you are a player character in the server, just like Grand Theft Auto. Like you have free will, you can go out and get a job, you can go get a hot wife, you can make money, you can be a criminal and go to jail, you can basically within the server do whatever you want. But you're limited by the matrix. And what you need to understand is where you're born is kind of your slot in the Matrix. So if you look at the Rothschild family, the world's wealthiest banking family, every Rothschild baby that's born, they're going to be in that elitist class forever. They're just born into it. But for me, or possibly for you or you know, anybody else, the Commonwealth people, like I come from humble beginnings. My dad was a carpenter. Like that's where I was born. I was born essentially to be a worker bee, to be that Goyam cattle to keep their machines running. We're batteries to the Matrix, to keep their machines going and running. And then they run everything and keep us in our place. Like Epstein said, this is how the makes money. Let the, let the goyum deal in the real world. And that's literally what happens. That's how the world works. We're all in this server playing this game. But I'm trying To get men to understand that even though you're in this matrix and you were born into the server at maybe a lower point than the 1% or the global elites, there is still some power that you hold. And I talk about like Epictetus, that stoic philosopher, and he. He has this philosophy called the dichotomy of control, which is the. The notion that you can only worry about what is in your control. Everything else outside of your control. Don't worry about it, don't pay any attention to it. And yet, even though we're in this matrix and everything is run and controlled by the architects of the matrix, there's still plenty of things in your control. Like for you, you sold a company, did very well. I'm an entrepreneur. I can speak online and build a platform. I can make more money. I can, you know, invest in, you know, put my money offshore so I can protect it or whatever the case is, build myself up physically. I can, you know, gain knowledge and, you know, understanding of how the world works, build networks, build a community. Like there are still things in your control. You don't totally have to be this goyum cattle slave to the system.

[Podcast Host]

I agree. Yeah. I do think, though, when you get to a certain level, whether it's from viewership or financially, you get some. Some interesting calls.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

You know what I mean?

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, I think so.

[Podcast Host]

You kind of have to find that sweet spot.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah. You know, but that's one of the other things is like, a lot of people, I feel, because, you know, the understanding of Israel or whatever has become mainstream and a lot of people are aware of it now, and I think a lot of guys are getting wrapped up into this pit of despair where they're just comfortable with apathy. They're like, well, what can I do? I'm just a man. You know, they're. They're going to control everything. I can't do much. It's all fault. Why? I'm fat and lazy and don't. Don't have a girlfriend. No, it's not like there's still things within your control. You can't just blame everything on the. Yeah, like, your life might be shitty, but it's not just somebody else's fault. Like, look within. There's still things that you can do to better your life.

[Podcast Host]

Agreed.

[Clyde Bosch]

And that comes with, like, the low iq, anti Semitism, where people are just making these memes, blaming everything.

[Podcast Host]

Like, that's the victim mentality.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah, it is. They're living in a victim mentality. Like, there's still things you can do to get yourself out of the matrix as much as possible.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Your brain actually attracts more negativity when you're living that way. There's studies on that now. You know what I mean?

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Your mind is very powerful. But, Clyde, this was great, dude. Where can people find you, man, and support you?

[Clyde Bosch]

Yes, you can find me on Instagram at underscore the real Clyde. Underscore YouTube the real Clyde, and X at the Real Clyde.

[Podcast Host]

Cool. Maybe a future debate.

[Clyde Bosch]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Stay tuned. All right, peace. Thanks for watching to the end, guys. Please comment below your thoughts on the episode, if you agree. If you disagree, I'd love to hear. I read every single comment. Means a lot to me. Thank you so much.