What Started In 1993 Is Still Controlling Today... | Sacha Stone | DSH #1988

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Digital Social Hour – Episode Summary

Podcast: Digital Social Hour
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Sacha Stone
Episode Title: What Started In 1993 Is Still Controlling Today... | Sacha Stone | DSH #1988
Date: June 2, 2026

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Overview of Episode Theme

This episode features a wide-ranging, provocative conversation between Sean Kelly and activist/philosopher Sacha Stone. The discussion explores hidden forces behind global control systems, suppressed technologies, the manipulation of history and resources (especially in Africa), and humanity’s trajectory as we transition from what Stone terms a "Satanic age" to a "Luciferian age." Stone blends conspiracy theories, alternative history, metaphysics, and current events, posing challenges to mainstream narratives across government, finance, health, and spirituality.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Transition of Ages: Satanic to Luciferian (00:00, 17:24)

• Stone claims we're shifting from a 'Satanic age' to a 'Luciferian age', each marked by different forms of control and sacrifice. The current transition is seen as part of the Age of Aquarius, leading eventually to a more enlightened "angelic indigo" human.
  • Notable quote:
    • “We are departing a Satanic age and moving into a Luciferian age... the Satanic age is predicated on blood economy, war economy, blood ritualism, blood sacrifice, harvest of innocence. We're moving out of that now.” (17:24 – Sacha Stone)
• The Luciferian era is defined by power, dominion, and control – e.g., AI, transhumanism – but is seen as a necessary step before true awakening.

2. Global Control Structures and the Role of Money (03:40, 14:30)

• All wars orchestrated for fiat money: Stone claims every war is planned, driven by the need to harvest human time and energy into "coin," which cements the control grid.
  • Notable quote:
    • “Not most. Every single war... What is money? Money is a 3D totem of time and fear.” (04:09 – Sacha Stone)
• Four main nodes of control: Vatican, Crown of England, Bank of International Settlements (Switzerland), and Washington D.C.—all privately held entities orchestrating global events.
  • “Between those four nodes of power, that is dominion right there, that is going to be collapsing in the next five, I think three to five years.” (14:30 – Sacha Stone)
• The U.S. is portrayed as "innocent," but citizens are unwittingly the financial backbone of the war machine.

3. Suppression of Technology and Natural Remedies (09:46, 11:03)

• The 1937 Marijuana Tax Act:
  • Stone asserts this law was a pivotal point, crushing the hemp industry to protect oil/gas interests and the emerging plastics/synthetics industry.
  • “America would have been 300 years ahead of itself had that bill in 1937 not passed...” (11:03 – Sacha Stone)
  • Hemp is described as a miraculous plant with extensive applications that threatened existing power structures.

4. Africa – The Cornerstone of Future Global Shifts (06:01, 07:14)

• Africa’s resources as global leverage: Stone emphasizes that Africa will soon emerge as a global powerhouse thanks to vast untapped resources.
  • “The reclamation that is now taking place in Africa is going to turn the world upside down in the next seven years.” (06:01 – Sacha Stone)
• Colonial legacy and continued Western/Chinese struggles for dominance, but a new spirit of African unity among hereditary leaders is building.
• The global banking system is said to be underpinned by resources stolen from Africa.

5. The Weaponization of Chemicals and Frequencies (19:31, 21:37)

• Aluminum, glyphosate, and fluoride:
  • Stone discusses the health impacts of these substances, their deliberate introduction, and their role in making people vulnerable to "weaponized frequencies" like 5G.
  • “...creates a catalyzes half a dozen chemical reactions inside the human body, which ultimately calcifies the pineal and leaves it as a ticking time bomb waiting for... 5G activation.” (19:46 – Sacha Stone)
• Stone connects these themes to global pharmaceutical strategies and the suppression of bioenergetic healing technologies.

6. Disclosure, Suppressed Files, and the ET Angle (02:36, 12:55, 15:56)

• Epstein files and UFO disclosures:
  • Stone claims to have been early in exposing the Epstein case, tying the lack of full disclosure to hidden knowledge about extraterrestrials and advanced technology.
  • “The redacted ones are really the ones that are of interest. ...Those are going to take us almost certainly to extraterrestrials and lower-dimensional planes of existence...” (02:36 – Sacha Stone)
• The release of files is interpreted as part of a controlled demolition of the old world order, with only sanitized content becoming public.

7. New Earth Movement and Counterculture (24:15, 26:31)

• Stone describes building a parallel "New Earth" community and tribunal system to investigate and address injustices ignored by mainstream courts.
• Alternative communities are developing their own legal, scientific, and social systems as a counter to perceived global corruption.

8. The Power of Frequency, Genetics, and Healing (27:24, 31:36)

• Scalar physics and remote healing:
  • Stone devotes substantial time to the idea that advanced knowledge of frequency and wave genetics can transform medicine and consciousness.
  • Story of Russian scientist Peter Garyaev: healing the elderly via frequencies of their descendants’ blood.
    • “The song of the blood, the ancestral blood song, healed the grandparents. Wow. Time and time and time again.” (31:36 – Sacha Stone)
• Critique of mainstream science and universities for ignoring these breakthroughs.

9. History as a Fabrication (34:40, 35:07)

• Stone asserts much of accepted history, including the Renaissance, is fabricated.
  • “The Renaissance is a concoction.”
  • “I've done symposiums on this with academics... it was literally not possible, no way for them to have accomplished what they were purported to have accomplished in the time that they were purported.” (34:47 – 35:07 – Sacha Stone)
• Advocates for experiential learning by traveling and connecting with custodians of ancient wisdom.

10. The Suppressed Archaeological Record (36:19, 40:51)

• Control over ancient artifacts and knowledge:
  • Stone recounts visiting major archaeological sites (Nubian pyramids, Karahan Tepe) and describes how breakthroughs are quickly sequestered by military or elite interests (British Museum, Smithsonian, Vatican Library).
  • “Look to those three institutions for the sequestration of our true history and our true knowledge. And once those criminal organizations are cracked open... then we'll get back on track with learning.” (40:51 – Sacha Stone)

11. Escaping the Matrix (28:33)

• Stone’s answer to escaping control systems:
  • It's not about escaping, but “nesting perfectly into the geometry of the living moment.”
  • Advocates reclaiming innocence, living in the present, and personal individuation as spiritual emancipation.
  • “If I'm personally asked the question, how do you escape the Matrix? I would say there’s only one escape, and that is no escape—that you have to nest perfectly into the geometry of the living moment…” (28:33 – Sacha Stone)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Money is a 3D totem of time and fear... the time and motion of human beings gets harvested into coin.” (04:09 – Sacha Stone)
• “Africa is the cornerstone of the world economy, the emergent world economy.” (06:01 – Sacha Stone)
• “The hemp plant… was a gift from star nations.” (19:46 – Sacha Stone)
• “All roads lead actually to Geneva, not to Rome.” (14:30 – Sacha Stone)
• “Epstein is a proxy character that even now is being conflated into having almost supernatural importance... he was a turgid piece of shit human being. Yeah, that's what he was. He was a bankster proxy.” (12:56 – Sacha Stone)
• “History is a lie, right? His story, I mean.” (36:04 – Sean Kelly)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• Intro and transition of ages (00:00; 17:24)
• Exposure of Epstein & connections to power (01:14; 02:08)
• Fiat currency and war (04:07; 04:09)
• Emergent role of Africa (06:01; 07:14)
• Suppression of hemp/Marijuana Tax Act (09:46; 11:03)
• Weaponization of chemicals (19:31; 19:46; 21:37)
• Parallel legal systems & new Earth movement (24:15; 26:31)
• Linguistic wave genetics & frequency healing (27:24; 31:36)
• Critique of mainstream science/academia (32:14; 32:26)
• Fabrication of history, Renaissance as myth (34:40; 35:07)
• Suppression of archaeology/artifacts (36:19; 40:51)
• Escaping the Matrix (28:33)

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Tone and Language

The conversation is unapologetically polemic, blending the language of spiritual activism, alternative history, and conspiracy. Stone is unfiltered, often provocative, and alternates between poetic metaphysics and pointed critique of mainstream government, science, and finance. Sean Kelly, while frequently skeptical or surprised, maintains a tone of open curiosity and respect, providing the audience space to process Stone’s more controversial assertions.

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Closing Notes

• Sacha Stone describes his ongoing work, including international travel, new media projects, and archeological tours, all aimed at catalyzing what he sees as humanity’s necessary awakening.
• The episode ends with Sean’s invitation for listeners to comment their views, reflecting the show’s ethos of open, uncensored conversation.

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This summary captures all major topics, themes, and memorable quotes, providing a comprehensive, timestamped guide for listeners and non-listeners alike.

Transcript

[A]

We are departing a Satanic age and moving into a Luciferian age. America would have been 300 years ahead of itself had that bill in 1937 not passed the Marijuana Tax Act. If I'm personally asked the question, how do you escape the Matrix? I would say there's only one escape and that is.

[B]

Okay, guys, Roland here at Conscious Life Expo, Sasha Stone here today. And we're about to have some fun, aren't we?

[A]

Indeed.

[B]

Yeah. What's. What's new with you, man?

[A]

Well, just, you know, you know, here I am in the Saturnian apex of woke liberal intellectual United States. California. Los Angeles.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I, I think I'll exclude the Conscious Life Expo from that because I think there's a lot of very decent people here.

[B]

Yeah, they did pick an interesting city.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

To have a conference like this.

[A]

Indeed.

[B]

Maybe to offset the. The bad.

[A]

Yeah, something like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, you know, City of Angels and there's a whole Babylonian mysterium cult stuff connected to the genesis point of most of the cities in the United States and this one is no exception, Hollywood and all of that, you know. Yeah.

[B]

A lot of bad stuff goes down in Hollywood.

[A]

Well, it's by the grace of God being revealed right now. Yeah.

[B]

Epstein, f anything surprise you from it?

[A]

No, because I was one of those who exposed it eight, nine years ago in a judicial commission of inquiry which I commissioned and financed in Westminster, London. Wow. And we did that in 2018, the Westminster seatings and had secretaries of state and police chiefs and very powerful people coming and giving testimony at that time. But did anyone listen? No.

[B]

Did any of us come from that?

[A]

No. Well, I got visited in 2018, a few months after they came all the way to Zimbabwe. No, no, no. I was in, I was in London. Oh, God. Westminster, London. But I got visited by. By Supreme Command US whilst Trump was doing his visit to the Queen. No, he's visiting the Queen State visit. And they acknowledged what we'd done really, in those seatings a few weeks earlier as having been an opening of the cam, which is very important stuff. Yeah.

[B]

Well, so Trump was accepting of it.

[A]

Well, I didn't speak to Donald Trump personally. I spoke to head of Supreme Command at that time on his detail in. At that state visit. Yeah.

[B]

Wow. I mean, he has released it. Hate him or love him?

[A]

Well, he started at that time, curiously enough. I think one of the first executive presidential orders that he did sign in his first incumbency was connected to get the kitties out of the basement. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Well, I know a lot of people Hate him. But he did really, he did say what he was going to do at least, Right? He released the part. Part of the files.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know if he'll release all of them.

[A]

Who knows? He says three and a half million out of six ain't bad. But it ain't good either because the other 2.5 million files are already. And the redacted ones are really the ones that are of interest. Right, but those are going to take us almost certainly to extraterrestrials and lower. Yeah. Dimensional planes of existence and the interference that that's had on the psycho civilizational wheel since we split atoms back in the 1940s. Because it's all connected. I mean, everything is a fractal of everything. As you certainly know, your generation all were born with that knowing. But it's leading back to the understanding of cosmogenesis, archaeocosmology, and the genesis point of the human story, which is not just to do with this world, but to do with all worlds in this galaxy.

[B]

Whoa, that's deep. We're getting right into it. Cosmogenesis, I have never heard of that.

[A]

Oh, it'll become the biggest subject on Earth in the next three to five years. Really? Without a doubt.

[B]

What is that exactly?

[A]

It's the genesis of species. The fact that the human being is by distinction and definition the galactic genome. And the sooner we wake up to that and stop with the of war, disease and poverty, then we're going to get back in on track.

[B]

You see that happening in our lifetime?

[A]

Yeah, without any. No question of doubt, really. Before 3rd 2032, it'll all be no more.

[B]

Worse.

[A]

No more 2032. Wow.

[B]

It sounds pretty optimistic.

[A]

I grew up in a war. I studied war. I've lived for 26 years. So I'm on the front line of studying that in the trenches, at a multilateral level, in governments and dealing in backroom diplomacy, as well as being a shit stir, you know, in the trenches. So I'm pretty damn qualified to speak to it.

[B]

And have you found out that most wars are orchestrated?

[A]

Not most. Every single war.

[B]

Every single war. World War I, World War II.

[A]

Yeah, but you've got to understand what's behind war is fiat. And what is fiat? What is money? Money is a 3D totem of time and fear. It's an accreted third density totem of human harvest. The time and motion of human beings gets harvested into coin. Coin then becomes a false light measure of exchange when we move beyond fiat economics and step back into gifting to One another living in a. Well, utopian contributionism is a stepping stone toward that. But ultimately, do you think in the Pleiad or the other dimensional planes of existence, do you believe that they qualify reality through money or time for that matter? Almost certainly not. That's a unique ailment that afflicts the human beings on this plane of existence.

[B]

So it sounds like currency is the main issue then.

[A]

Yeah, because currency becomes the totem of third party intervention. Third party intervention means that I'm no longer sovereign, I'm not in control of this ship, I'm not the captain of my ship. Whereas in higher realms of expression we almost certainly are. For God's sakes. We plasma project our soul into incarnations and out of incarnations, and we've done it millions and millions of times. But this Earth plane seems to be a very uniquely distorted and dystopian plane where we are required to come in and learn duality and understand what that contrast is and what it represents at the level of the soul. And of course, it's always a good story in the end because it's all about raising frequency and raising our expression, dialing ourselves up.

[B]

Yeah. Growing up in America, you know, a capitalistic society, it's all I've ever strived for. I've been conditioned to really appreciate money and strive for it. That's how you kind of measure yourself here.

[A]

Well, that, that, that's the net, net of, of imperial dominion. But you know, at, at what expense? So we get into that piece. I'm, I'm a third generation white African. I'm working right now in Africa extensively in Africa with, with the government and with, with the royal establishments and the, the, the paramount chiefs, the hereditary leadership. The reclamation that is now taking place in Africa is going to turn the world upside down in the next seven years. Really? Well, Africa is the cornerstone of the world economy, the emergent world economy. Just ask Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump. They'll tell you what's going on in the Democratic Republic of Congo, in Zimbabwe and Botswana, Namibia, Angola. These countries and the mineral assets that they've got locked in the soil outflanks anything that they're dreaming about in Greenland right now. That's just a decoy. But when the story really hits, it's about Africa and about the resources in Africa. And Africa, of course, was always the preserve of the colonialists that the French, the Belgian, the Dutch and the English colonists went in and desecrated the bejesus out of all the black folk on that continent and stole the Resources. But those resources became the collateral behind the global banking system today.

[B]

Gold and silver.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, it goes back to King Solomon's gold. Yeah.

[B]

Wow. So aren't countries going to start fighting over those resources then?

[A]

Yes and no. I mean, the fight is already underway and has been underway. And the fight right now is between, in that sense, the Chinese and the Western adult. And the Chinese mindset, they are kind of pitted and there is a kind of war for vying for supremacy. But I think that what both the Chinese and the Americans are forgetting is that Africa is its own continent and the people of Africa are now unifying and the. They're all step stepping up. The hereditary leadership is coming back together again.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So they'll throw that imperial yoke off their shoulders soon enough.

[B]

Tides have turned, huh? Because Africa was always a laughing stock when it comes to finances. But they got the resources now.

[A]

Yeah, that's right, exactly.

[B]

Well, there's been a lot of suppression with Africa too.

[A]

Right? Purposefully so, yeah.

[B]

Yes, like definitely intentional.

[A]

Yes. I mean, I, I grew up in. In, in the. An extension of the Cold War being played out in my country, which was called Rhodesia, became Zimbabwe, but it was literally an extension of war playing out in Africa. And that was all about diamonds and gold and oil and gas.

[B]

Oh, was that the diamond war?

[A]

Well, that, that's all connected to that part of the world.

[B]

The Sunni and Shiite war. I saw that on a documentary. Growing up.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Was that Zimbabwe or.

[A]

No, no, that was something else that

[B]

was in Africa, though, I remember.

[A]

Yeah. You're talking about the, the Leonardo DiCaprio. Yeah, film D. Blood diamonds. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a good one. Yeah, it's that, it's that belt of Africa where the diamonds and the emeralds are kind of really locked in. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Bill Gates did some stuff out there too.

[A]

I did. I think that's called global depopulation.

[B]

Yeah, he did some nasty work out there.

[A]

Yeah. And. And the hiv, the aids, the aids, which was an extension also of the Sabbatian satanic basement. But that, that. And when I talk about that, I'm talking about really bad, bad chemistry coming out of the. The Babylonian basement, which was a genesis point of the pharmaceutical and the agrochemical industries, really, which locked and loaded, really, 1937 with the Marijuana Tax act of 1937, when Congress was bought by the oil and gas barons and they outlawed marijuana overnight and by extension, hemp. The entire hemp industry collapsed overnight in 1937 because the hemp industry at that time was about to go vertical and take over the American economy.

[B]

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[A]

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[A]

Chime.com disclosures America would have been 300 years ahead of itself had that bill in 1937 not not passed the Marijuana Tax act, but introducing that tax act. And prior to 1937 every farmer in the United States by law had to farm a minimum of 200 acres of hemp. Ah. And from the hemp fibers you can literally build buildings. It is 11 times stronger than steel. Really? Yes, the 10. Yes the 10.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

You can extract silicon, you can extract ceramics and you can extract gr. So we can make computers, we can make telephones out of one plant that grows three times a year yield times a year. So you grow hemp and I'm addressing parliaments on this in Africa. I'm sitting down with kings and kings of kings and parliaments and cabinet ministers talking this talk in the last 18 months, selling them on the idea of not playing white man's game any further. Allowing a marijuana and hemp to come back in or the hemp industry to come back in. And within three years they can lose all foreign. 97% of foreign exports.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Wow. And if that doesn't pull an economy and buoy it back up, nothing will. So that's part of the process of how African and the so called developing nations need to resurrect themselves from the fiat economy. Yeah.

[B]

Because fiat always crashes.

[A]

Yes, sure. The dollar, well, it's rigged. It's rigged to crash at cycles. As indeed people in the, in the crypto world are going to understand that soon enough.

[B]

You think crypto is going to crash too?

[A]

Same. Oh, without any question of doubt. Really. It has no choice.

[B]

Like when you say crash, what are we talking? 99 versus 90?

[A]

We get into a very abstruse subject here, Sean, and I'm happy to riff on it, but honestly I would need more than just a few minutes because it is pretty dark and turgid and deep when you understand the genesis point of crypto and who and what is behind Bitcoin.

[B]

Epstein.

[A]

No, Epstein is lite L I T E. Epstein is not the. Is not the issue really. Epstein is a, is a proxy character that even now is being conflated into having almost supernatural importance. He was a turgid piece of shit human being. Yeah, that's what he was. He was a bankster proxy.

[B]

So you think he was a part.

[A]

And he was also a very clever guy. Yeah, you know, he's very clever, very bookish, very clever. But he was nefarious and very, very nasty at the same time. But he's not the element. And he's a proxy. There are characters behind him that, that ought to get more focus. And will. And will do. But again, we've got to get back to those two and a half million files. And the redacted files are the ones that are of interest.

[B]

Well, I don't know if we'll see the redacted because even before they got redacted, they were redacted.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So I don't know if we'll ever have the true files.

[A]

Well, that this becomes in a sense the critical issue. And if Empire is falling either way, the Dominion of Washington, District of Columbia and it's direct connection to the Vatican conspirators in the Vatican City and the Crown of England and the bank of International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, between those four nodes of power, that is dominion right there, that is going to be collapsing in the next five, I think three to five years. But for sure, by my reckoning, by the year 2032. All of those principalities which are privately owned principalities. Be clear.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So you said they own every government on earth by extension. So you know, you talk about Rwanda or Mozambique, and the Mozambique is a privately owned corporation masquerading as a government. And its treasury, it's a treasury is owned and contained and cleared to the US treasury and then ultimately the bank of Household Settlements in Switzerland. All roads lead actually to Geneva, not to Rome. Wow.

[B]

So you said the Vatican Crown of England, bank of International Switzerland.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And the U.S. or the forestry revival.

[A]

Well, washing. Not. Not the U.S. the U.S. is. Is the most innocent of all. You know, the people of the United States have been the harvest of humanity is their talks, tax dollars of middle America that has sustained and orchestrated a quadrillion dollar thermonuclear war machine unwittingly. But that was conducted and orchestrated through the basement, which is to say Washington, District of Columbia. Again, owned and contained principality in the United States, but very separate from the United States.

[B]

It's privately owned.

[A]

Washington Dusa. Yes. It's not owned by the people. Interesting. 1776 is not what people think it is, or was.

[B]

Now I'm curious how it should be.

[A]

But again, that's stuff that is going to also come out and I rather suspect the stuff on the back end of the Epstein files and the true kind of release of the X Files from the Pentagon. Not that I believe that that's going to happen for a second, despite what Trump just said. This.

[B]

You're talking about the UFO ones or.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. You don't think those Glenn.

[A]

That's really light stuff that's going to be released. But the real hardcore extraterrestrial stuff is connected to Majestic 12 and to what happened at the time of, you know, Oppenheimer. And again, it's a very, very abstruse subject. It's worth going into. And I pray, if I do pray, I pray to your generation that you'll be the generation to actually crack that nut and go full tilt into it. Because we need absolute, full disclosure that the human biotechnology, this body temple, is designed for pure truth. It's designed for completely unfiltered, unfettered pure truth, which is to say euphoria and bliss. Ecstasy, not synthetic molecules and all that shit. I'm talking about real undiluted bliss that'll come about when the flame of pure truth or Kundalini activates in all of us. Interesting. And that's going to happen only when we crack this nut of empire. But it has to be the Will the collective will of the people to, to do that. And we see that underway right now.

[B]

Yeah, a lot of people are outraged.

[A]

Well, they're learning about the kiddies in the basement. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

A lot of dark stuff. They're, they're. That's being exposed right now. And because of social media, it's spreading so fast.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

You know, before it would take a while to assimilate all these people. Yeah. And unite them. But I think the files got released because of everyone speaking out.

[A]

Well, I. That and also it also tallies. The release of the Epstein files tallies perfectly with a kind of controlled demolition of the old order of things. So what I'll say next is somewhat shocking and I know that to your platform, it probably make a great deal of sense to a lot of people. But I was asked to break down on a panel early this morning that the synthesis of my three hour lecture into five minutes or less. And I think I got to four minutes and 20 seconds. But essentially I ended up with the fact that we are departing a Satanic age and moving into a Luciferian age. And that's not a bad thing. And there's been a conflation and a misunderstanding of Satanism and ritual Satanism and Luciferianism. So Satanic age is an age predicated on blood economy, war economy, blood ritualism, blood sacrifice, harvest of innocence and sacrifice of innocence. We're moving out of that now into Luciferian age where it's still power and dominion, control, you know, the Elon Musk kind of Iron man, you know, fantastic transhumanism, Donald Trump, all of that stuff thrown in, AI transhumanism. But the point being it doesn't desecrate God's creation. So moving from a Satanic age into a Luciferian era, which we're moving into right now, this is the early onset of the age of Aquarius. So we'll move through this Luciferic false light age very quickly as we play with chaos and reintegrate chaos at the galactic level, but we'll move through it very quickly and then land as the new human, which would. You could loosely refer to that as the angelic indigo Human Angelic indigo, which if you understand cosmogenetics and cosmogenesis, that will make sense. But again, I'm hoping and praying that your generation is a generation to really wake up in that particular dream and start doing the heavy work. But it's going to be difficult because your generation is entirely, almost entirely co opted and saturated by the source code of the Kingdom of the Devil, which is synthetic molecules.

[B]

I mean, we've been very programmed, right?

[A]

I'm talking about hard chemical drugs here. Really do the air from alcohol. Well, yeah, if we go into the aluminum and the glyphosates and the fluoride and just that trifecta of evil.

[B]

Well, I know we were talking positively about Trump, but he just approved a big glyphosate.

[A]

I'm aware. I've been talking today to pundits who want to want to interview me on that subject, explaining to them that the aluminum glyphosate and fluoride creates a catalyzes, you know, half a dozen chemical reactions inside the human body, which ultimately moves towards the pineal, calcifies the pineal and leaves it as a ticking time bomb. Waiting for What? Waiting for 5G activation. So the weaponized frequencies can now auto destruct the human physiology through simple frequency emission. Once you've got that trifecta of aluminum and fluoride and glyphosate locked into the system. So that's been a systemic intervention and a conspiracy certainly for the last hundred years. Again, it goes back to 1937. Why did the oil and gas barons introduce and by Congress to introduce the Marijuana Tax act to end the hemp industries. That's the question. They did it to destroy. They wanted to introduce derivatives of oil and gas. The plastics industry, which became the synthetics industry. So that was an intervention at a galactic level to bring synthetic reality into our entire plane of existence. So you outlawed hemp, which was a gift from the stars, incidentally, the hemp plant. Do you understand where that plant came from? And when it came to Earth, it was a gift from star nations. This is well understood. To the true wisdom keepers, the shaman and the aboriginal peoples. We lost sight of all of that shit because we're so fucking clever in the west, right? So point being, it was the oil and gas barons who wanted to introduce the plastics industry into the world, which has brought about the. The systemic poisoning of air, water and soil. And now every human body locked and loaded with these tons of.

[B]

Yes, There's a company upstairs. The line is out the hotel. He puts your blood under a microscope and everything you're saying is in this, everyone's blood, right?

[A]

As Dr. Minnelli knows, in our organization we do this work all the time and had done for many, many, many years. We've, you know, incubated technologies to get them out to Prot. When I made a film, 5G Apocalypse, the Extinction Event, about in 2017. Warning. Warning. The world about what was coming with the weaponization of the biosphere. Then we conducted the judicial Commission of Inquiry into the weaponization of the Biosphere in Bali, Indonesia, in 2019 with Del Big Tree, who was Bobby Kennedy's right hand, and all of the top guns in geoengineering and in GMOs and what have you, were all participating variously in that judicial commission, giving testimony. So we put this stuff out a lot many years ago. My. My organization. Yeah, but how many people picked up on it at that time?

[B]

Not many.

[A]

And we were also warning about the vaccines. And then five months later, bada boom, Covid kicks.

[B]

You were too early.

[A]

We were way too early.

[B]

Yeah. You were conspiracy theorist.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Back then it was. Yeah, people looked at you crazy. But now you're vindicated.

[A]

Almost entirely vindicated. I may have got one or two things slightly wrong, but in the main, in was a bullseye.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, if you're shooting that high of a percent, I think people should listen. Tune in.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

One or two wrong ain't bad. You made a lot of predictions.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You were talking about this years ago. You said 14 years ago.

[A]

No, I began 26 years ago. 99. I formed my foundation to begin the work in 1999, but I went public, so to speak, in 2012, 2009 and 2010. I was a director general in the United nations in the intergovernmental sector. But that was a hack job, and I hacked him to get there myself. And Dr. David Martin is now, you know, on the world stage and just one of the most remarkable minds out there. You should get Dave on your show. Dr. David Martin.

[B]

I'll definitely look him up.

[A]

One of the top guns on the planet. United nations, man alive. Yeah. And that time we hacked in and we were trying to concoct a plan to overthrow the petrodollar by bringing esoteric and vanguard technologies into the Gulf states and give them the advantage of creating a quantum revolution in the energy sector. And step back from oil and gas. We got caught with our knickers around our ankles at a given point, and the guns and the dogs were turned on us. So we bailed on that plan. But that was a long time ago. That was 2009. 10 was how many years? 16 years ago. 17 years ago.

[B]

It's a long time.

[A]

Yeah. And then I shut up for a little bit. And then 2012 came out of the closet and decided to start public speaking myself a bit. But obviously not Persona non grata on. On all mainstream platforms.

[B]

She got banned within a few Days,

[A]

Yeah, a few, few rocks at the head. But, you know, I've been doing it non stop. I mean, as Dr. Nelly runs my office. But you know, she knows, right? I do five interviews a week. Like I'm just constant. It's always, I'm interviewing, I'm being interviewed. Meaning to say the. That that alternative community, Truth and Disclosure and Remedy, is a burgeoning sub couture. It's out there. There are hundreds and hundreds of millions of souls who are now plugging into Truth and Disclosure. We have a huge community around the world. It doesn't matter where. I go in the world and get off a plane and I'll do a public talk within three or four days and it'll be a full theater. It doesn't matter which country, honestly. But we're a subculture, we're a sub couture. We're not in the mainstream, recognized, and we're bleached off social media in the main. Interesting, because that's the same, you know, it's twinned with the mainstream media, social media and all those data mining algorithms are all construing to ensure that the real truth of things is somewhat bleached out into the margins, 100%. So we've grown our own new Earth community, which we call the New Earth Project or the New Earth Initiative, the New Earth Nation. Over the years, we've called it many things, but that's how we set up our own court, the International Tribunal for Natural justice, and began our own investigation and, you know, had our own judges and our own heavyweight law commissioners, former heads of CIA and what have you on our commission and congressmen as well. And we've conducted our judicial commissions at inquiry. Nonetheless, if we ever make it to the pages of the Daily Mail, of course they take the piss out of us and say, oh, Stone and a bunch of cracker Jacks have set up another mock court. Of course they're going to say that. What else are they going to say?

[B]

Daily Mail. Who reads Daily Mail?

[A]

1&Q. Exactly. Yeah.

[B]

I've never read an article in Daily Mail. I mean, it's mind blowing that people do that, right?

[A]

But the point I'm trying to make here is not that we're so cool, it's just that we've consistently done what we've done and we have emerged now as a planetary community. It's a burgeoning community of hundreds of millions of people. So that's the New Earth movement, that's the new inertia, which is now systemically collapsing the basement of the Babylonian and blood cultures. Yeah.

[B]

It's like the counter to the new world order.

[A]

Yeah, exactly right. We're very well put. It's exactly what it is.

[B]

Yeah. The deep state, the deep population, whatever you want to call it.

[A]

The new Earth order.

[B]

Yeah, I mean that's a thing, but

[A]

call it new Earth chaos. I mean, I started my lecture last night with a big slide talking about chaos and saying that chaos is how you see it. This universe is chaos by definition, and yet behind the chaos is a template of perfection. So everything is fractal, is torsion, is scalar at the kind of micro scientific level, at the nano level, you get into torsion physics and scalar physics. Everything is interconnected. I am that thou art. Yeah.

[B]

Taylor is next level.

[A]

Next level. Yes.

[B]

I've had a few guests talk about it and they don't last long on social media. Yeah, they don't want scalar out there.

[A]

Right, yeah. No, because once you understand Scala and, and the, the calculus and the mathematics, you're into hyperdimensional travel, you're into activation of merkabah, distance healing you, all of that stuff. Exactly right. You're raising cancers in, in a quantum instant anti gravitation and so on and so forth.

[B]

Yeah. It's almost like defying the laws of the universe.

[A]

Right, right, yeah.

[B]

Everything we know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It would put big pharma out of business.

[A]

Well, I think they're doing a good job of that themselves. Roundabout, of course. I'm a little concerned to hear about this latest piece on the, on the gmo and I have worked with Robert Kennedy and I will try to find out what was behind this bill last week because I only found out about it actually the last two days.

[B]

Yeah, I'm surprised. Kennedy, I don't know if he was involved in that process at all. I'm assuming not.

[A]

They could be trolling. They go, they could be introducing a bill in order to see who jumps up and rushes the gate and then, and then introduce another bill. And that could, could be a dragnet.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Politics at a certain level does work that way.

[B]

You got to do that sometimes, right?

[A]

Sometimes, yeah.

[B]

Gotta bait out.

[A]

Well, Trump has proven to be a master at it.

[B]

Yeah, he's great. Yeah, he's the master of that for sure. The new Earth. And you teach people how to escape the control grid, right?

[A]

Well, you know, if I'm personally asked the question, how do you escape the matrix? I would say there's only one escape, and that is no escape that you have to nest perfectly into the geometry of the living moment. Meaning to say you have to become absolute Alpha Omega in your living testament, in your witness as a child of God. You have to awaken within the dream sufficiently in order to see the world through the eyes of a child, which is to reclaim innocence in the living moment and collapse perfectly into the here and now. That's your escape from the Matrix. There is no escape explicitly out there. And that's what we're kind of educated and taught to always extend ourselves beyond ourselves and idolize and worship things out there. It's how we manufactured Yahweh for Christ's sake, and literally for Christ's sake. It's how we manufactured the demiurge and the angry jealous gods of old who, what did they do? Ended up completely desecrating us and throwing us into psycho civilizational trauma patterns. So there is a point at which we need to put away Charlie's things and grow up. And that's to activate in the living moment and recognize our natural born eminence that we have the telephone to God, so to speak. But we are a direct extension of the Alpha and Omega and there is no salvation or redemption out there. It's got to become an individuated awakening. And that's going to happen at the collective level because it goes back to something you mentioned a moment ago about the, the, I can't remember the term you used, but we were kind of speaking about on the scalar side of things, the activation, remote healing. That piece. If I truly heal and activate that aspect of the bodhisattva in myself, then by extension anyone connected through the linguistic way of genetics, which is remote healing, and this is a measurable science in the laboratory, we can heal those around us that we love and can and will. Do you know an amazing doctor in, in Russia, who I was blessed to know before he died, Peter Garyev, he was the guy who put a laser beam through a frog and that went into a lizard and the lizard gave through the womb, through the spermatosa of a frog, into the womb of a lizard. So he sent a light beam, a laser. It carried the genetics from the spermatosa in the frog into the lizard. The lizard gave birth to a frog. That's insane. And, and once that, and that was a repeated experiment. Once he did that, he demonstrated one thing alone, and that was that light carries DNA, the signature. Right? So knowing that, as we do, we extrapolate off that and recognize that we can heal one another's cancers through the linguistic wave. Genetics coming out of an actualized human heart. Garyev went further, started healing very old sick people on their deathbeds by playing sound files of the frequency signature of their grandchildren's blood.

[B]

No way.

[A]

Yes way. And because the old people who were dying were simply listening to the frequency of their grandchildren's blood. The song of the blood, the ancestral blood song, healed the grandparents. Wow. Time and time and time again. So that linguistic wave genetics was discovered by Gareth many years ago. I was working with him. We were taking that science, science, trying to advance that science. But you ask the question, why the fuck is Yale and Harvard and Oxford and Cambridge and these other Masonic institutions, why are they not on the case with the real science and bringing that forward? All they've done is sequestered and suppressed it.

[B]

They're still trying to find it.

[A]

And I could name 50 different breakthroughs like Peter Garyev's in technologically speaking and biotechnology and so on, so forth, all sequestered and. And suppressed.

[B]

Well, it makes sense. When you look at imaging of disease in the body, it's darkness, it's void of light. Yeah, right. So to add some light to that. Yeah, it makes sense.

[A]

Simply put.

[B]

Yeah. Wow, that is some profound work. I need to look into that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because people are doing blood transfusions physically.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

They could just listen to their blood, you're saying? Yes, that's way easier way. I wouldn't want to do a blood transfusion with my.

[A]

Well, the smart thing would be to take your own blood when you're born. There should be a. If there's a blood bank. Blood banks are ghastly, but going to have a blood bank take, extract some of the blood from an infant when they're born and keep that blood on file so that later when they do get a metastasizing tumor, they can literally go back and listen to their own ancestral blood song in their primacy and it will restore Mars.

[B]

So blood has a frequency then?

[A]

Yes, Everything, everything is frequency.

[B]

Even though you can't hear it, it still is.

[A]

Yes, everything is frequency. I mean, this microphone, the stand, this everything has a unique frequency, which is what creates the tensegrity of the holding together of the atoms in a given arrangement, a given geometry. But it's all frequency contained in that sense.

[B]

And do you think that's been weaponized too?

[A]

Well, the ethers have been weaponized, the biosphere has been weaponized since that other reasonable Mason Edison masqueraded as being the inventor of the light bulb and the radio and all the rest of Marconi and so on. So when we introduced hot electrical values back in the day, Nikola Tesla was suppressed by at that time JP Morgan, which is a proxy of the Rockefeller, Rothschild Paesur clans. But the point being that it was hot electrical values that were introduced into the world which brought about instantaneously cancers and all of the afflictions that we've seen in the modern domain. You've got to go back to Grand Tataria and you've got to understand that we're missing huge chunks of our recorded history and that we fell from a golden age. You've got to go back to the Mahabharata to read that and see where we were. My talk last night was largely on this subject. Talk about the forgotten age when we were in our majesty as a civilization. All around the world it literally covered the entire planet. And there was a fall from that age. There was an intervention that occurred.

[B]

Is that when the plague started?

[A]

Well, the plague. And did the Renaissance actually happen? Happen? No, I've never heard. It didn't happen.

[B]

The Renaissance.

[A]

No. The Renaissance is a concoction.

[B]

Holy crap.

[A]

It's a concoction.

[B]

They spent two months of history class in high school.

[A]

Those Raphael and Michelangelo da Vinci. Please. We did the study on all of this stuff. It was literally not possible, no way for them to have accomplished what they were purported to have accomplished in the time that they were purported.

[B]

They didn't make Michelangelo.

[A]

It's just not what you think it is.

[B]

Is. Oh wow.

[A]

And I've done, I've done. I've done symposiums on this with academics in the Lazarus. My, my, my Lazarus symposium which I do every month to my community. And we have leading researchers and historians and archaeocosmologists and mathematicians and geometers coming in, hyperdimensional physicists, really heavyweight stuff coming in. And we study these subject. We've been doing that six. Our sixth year now, I think. Right. 20. We started in 20. 20. 20.

[B]

21.

[A]

Every month, five, six or seven hour symposium with leading brains coming in. Yeah.

[B]

And they've disproven that.

[A]

That's one of the subjects. One of the hundreds of subjects we've gone into. In great. In great.

[B]

Wow. So what would their rationale be for making up the Renaissance, son?

[A]

Again, I would love to do a deep dive on that piece.

[B]

That's a whole episode.

[A]

It's a whole. Believe me, it is.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Otherwise I just.

[B]

Next time. Next time. That's crazy though. Wow. Yeah. History is a lie, right? His story, I mean.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

I can't believe any of it.

[A]

It's a Devastating life.

[B]

Yeah. But they make you learn it for 18 years.

[A]

Yeah. So that's right.

[B]

We're all programmed to believe it, you know, and then we got to unlearn it.

[A]

Right, Exactly. Zero point learning. Yeah.

[B]

And every country has a different history they teach. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, I've. I've gone and hung out in the Nubian Desert, you know the place where, you know, King Solomon used to hang out. Oh, yeah. With the Queen of Sheba. Yeah. I've been to these countries and spent a great deal of time in these countries. I mean, just, just in last. In the last six months alone, I've been to most of these. Turkey and Cyprus. And where do we go? To Egypt. And going direct to the source. I mean, I lived in Egypt for three years. I know these. These parts of the world pretty well. Yeah, yeah. And yeah, there's a very different recorded history. I mean, well, Egypt, when I was in the. In the Sudanese desert a year before last, they. The. The. It was a hell of a journey getting there. But when we finally got there and I'd been invited in by the. The military general had overthrown the incumbency and I'd been invited in to go and look at the pyramids and to spark up a planetary conversation about the Nubian pyramids. The fact that there's over 200 of them, for a start. The fact that they are twice the size and the age of the ones in Egypt. Why is no one talking about that in academia? And it's fascinating. And meeting some of the desert people there at the pyramids and talking to them, and they were saying, oh, yeah, no, we've got libraries and shit underground and artifacts and stuff there. Same thing in Ethiopia. They are holders of arcane wisdom that has not. And the Coptic bishops, I was with them 23, 24 years ago in the desert of Sketis in Wadi Al Natrun, with the Coptic bishops underground, living in a citadel underground. I was taken in special dispensation for the military in Egypt to get to the them and had to have diplomatic passage. And I spent time with the Coptic bishops. These are the guys who threw up the Dead Sea Scrolls a few years back as a kind of little throw the dog a bone to the western gestalt, you know, but they've still got stuff under there they haven't even begun to release to the circles. And they've been there an awful long time, the Coptics. All I'm saying is, is that we're so clever in the west, so cultivated, so educated and so dystopian. And myopic. We just don't know anything at all. And the real wisdom of ages has been contained by certain cloisters. And that stuff is going to be surfacing as well very, very soon. Why did we invade Iraq? It wasn't to do with oil. It wasn't to take down a man with a bad mustache. It was something else entirely. It was to do with arcane technology, really. Yes. And Delta and these other elements, nefarious elements of the military industrial complex, have known full well. They've sequestered the true findings of Cleopatra's and Alexander the Great's tombs and antiquities like you wouldn't believe. In the desert of. In Jordan, in the Wadi Rum Desert in Jordan. Those were discovered the underground base in the Bucechi Mountains in Romania, which I was. I've been to multiple times to try to work to get the US Government and the Romanian government to step away the military and allow academia to get back into these places because they belong to humanity. Yeah. But they've been again, sequestered and locked down under military purview. You. It's always the same thing, you know, the British Museum will get the first phone call. They'll pick up the midnight Masons will call their buddies. The next thing, Delta flies in. It's black helicopters. It's locked down. I was in the oldest artifact on Earth, so I was told at. Not Gobekli Tepe, Karahan Tepe in Turkey. I was there just over two years ago on the. The week that they discovered the oldest artifact in academia that I showed on the. I can't remember if I showed this on the. On the ship when we went to the Mediterranean, but I was there with my mother in the desert at Karahantepi, known now to be a lot older than Gobekli Tepe, which hitherto we believe was the oldest remnant of a civilization on Earth. They just unearthed Karahan Tepe. We went there and they were pulling up this artifact from underground. And I happened to be there with my mom and with an old archaeologist was there and some military guys. And we went and stood over this hole and the archaeologist was doing something and he said, quickly, have a look at this. He said, because you're not gonna. You will never see this again. And he said, they'll send the helicopters in the next day or two, and this is gonna be taken. But he said, I can tell you this is the oldest artifact we've ever discovered here in Karahante, and this is the oldest civilization we've ever discovered. On earth. And it was a little figure, yay high, of a little wizened man carved in stone, clutching his little cock. Talk about the fall of empire. Talk about the end of patriarchy. What a revelation from the bowels of nature. In any event, the point I'm trying to make is that these things are constantly found, discovered, sequestered. British Museum, Smithsonian Institute, Vatican Library. Look to those three institutions for the sequestration of our true history and our true knowledge. And once those criminal organizations are cracked open and the basements are exposed and returned to the good tax paying, useless eaters that are us humans, then we'll get back on track with learning.

[B]

I would love to see what's under the Vatican. Yes, indeed, I would love to see it, but I don't know if that'll happen.

[A]

It'll happen, I hope. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

There's a lot of knowledge down there.

[A]

Oh, no question about it. Yeah.

[B]

Well, Sasha, this was great. You got any trips coming up? Any. Anything exciting?

[A]

I hope you wouldn't ask that question. Yeah, as it happens, we're heading to Lebanon later this year. We're doing Baalbek in Lebanon, Sinai, Jerusalem, and with the Bishop of Jerusalem will be accompanying me on that and taking our guests there. Egypt, we're doing the Nile down the Nile. What else? Documentary, I can't remember a bunch of co. Yes, I'm also doing one in. In. In near my home in Mexico on the Mayan Riviera in May. So we'll be having a lot of fun there. I travel pretty. Pretty much non stop. Yeah, pretty much non stop.

[B]

Anything else you want to close off with here? No, we'll link, link your stuff in the video. Thanks for coming on.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Yeah, check them out, guys. Peace. Thanks for watching to the end, guys. Please comment below your thoughts on the episode if you agree. If you disagree, I'd love to hear it. I read every single comment. Means a lot to me. Thank you so much.