What The Epstein Files Revealed About Power... | Ian Wendt| DSH #1990

Summary

Digital Social Hour – "What The Epstein Files Revealed About Power..." with Ian Wendt | DSH #1990

Date: May 31, 2026
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Ian Wendt

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Main Theme and Purpose

This episode of Digital Social Hour welcomes outspoken entrepreneur and commentator Ian Wendt to unravel the recent revelations from the Epstein files and what they suggest about global power structures. The discussion is raw and unfiltered, ranging from political polarization, societal demoralization, and media manipulation to AI’s role in shaping (or confusing) reality. Both Sean and Ian offer personal experiences, challenge mainstream narratives, and call for unity amid divisive times.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Pervasiveness of Politics and Media Manipulation

• Modern Politicization

  • Ian and Sean discuss how contemporary life is saturated in politics, a phenomenon magnified by the rapid spread of information and engagement-driven algorithms.
  • "Now everybody's so politically charged because of just the atmosphere in general now. ... It's like, you can't not talk about it." — Ian (01:15)

• The Two-Party System and Division

  • Ian criticizes America’s two-party system as tribalistic and divisive, arguing it’s engineered to keep citizens at odds.
  • Notable quote: "This two party system is the greatest cancer in our country. ... It's made every single part of our life revolve around politics." — Ian (03:02)

2. Epstein Files, Elitism, and Controlled Outrage

• Lack of National Focus on Scandal

  • Despite the Epstein files outing elite corruption, public outrage is minimal compared to trivial issues like NFL halftime shows.
  • "It's crazy that we now live in a world where there's more outrage for a Super bowl halftime show than there is for the Epstein files." — Ian (06:06)

• Intentional Information Overload

  • Ian cites former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov, positing that elites flood society with information to demoralize and paralyze the public.
  • "The whole point is to flood society with constant chaos and information and news and tragedy... and it gets to the point where people think, 'What the hell do we do?'" — Ian (06:35)

• Releasing the Epstein Files Amidst the AI Boom

  • The timing and format of the document release are seen as deliberate, ensuring skepticism in a world where AI can create fake evidence.
  • "If people don't think that they release those files the way they did on purpose, you're not paying attention because it is impossible to actually corroborate any of the things in there." — Ian (07:41)

3. Artificial Intelligence: Truth and Class

• AI as a Double-Edged Sword

  • Both acknowledge AI’s potential for good but fear its ability to further distort truth.
  • "AI is going to eliminate truth 100%, you know what I mean?" — Sean (09:40)
  • "I know it's going to create a lot of good... but at the same time, dude, there's a reason why so many of these executives... are coming out as whistleblowers." — Ian (12:00)

• Knowledge as the New Class System

  • Ian theorizes that AI will shift class distinctions from wealth-based to knowledge-based, with elites controlling access to information.
  • "The same people that control the monetary system... are now the ones that are controlling the knowledge." — Ian (13:10)

4. Demoralization, Social Isolation, and Control

• Indoctrination and Division Start Early

  • Ian points to educational indoctrination as a means to divide and isolate individuals.
  • "It starts in the schools. 10, 15, 20 years of constant re education and indoctrination..." — Ian (14:42)

• Social Fragmentation

  • Alarming statistics on loneliness, especially among men.
  • "The average man, like over 60% of the average men don't have one friend. That they could call if they needed to." — Ian (16:08)
  • Consequence: Less collaboration and activism, more compliance.

5. Consistency, Censorship, and Labels as Weapons

• Ian’s Experience with Opposition and Labels

  • Discussing attacks from organizations like Canary Mission, Ian expresses frustration at being labeled (racist, anti-Semite, etc.) for criticizing government or media narratives regardless of the group in question.
  • "I don't condemn any people for the sins of some or many of that people ever. ... That's just asinine." — Ian (18:48)
  • "Those labels are their weapons. Those labels are the way that they stomp out the opposition, any and all opposition." — Ian (24:38)

• Cancel Culture’s Waning Power

  • Being targeted can now strengthen one’s following instead of silencing dissent.
  • "People are done with it, man. ... That's actually what makes it even more scary, is they're getting desperate." — Ian (26:19)

6. Bread and Circuses: The Power of Distraction

• Trivial Debates as Distractions

  • Society is purposely kept arguing about superficial issues—sex, gender, left vs. right—while powerful actors operate unchecked.
  • "They want us arguing about the dumbest stuff. ... Bread and circuses." — Sean & Ian (31:01)

• The Real Battle: Unity vs. Division

  • "United we stand, divided we fall." (Repeatedly – notably at 15:27, 31:56)

7. Political Prognostications and Speculations

• The Post-Trump Era
  • Ian predicts a Vance-Kirk ticket, suggesting Republicans will leverage narrative and identity shifts (e.g., a Christian woman vice president) to revive their base.
  • "I think it's a Vance Kirk ticket. ... How else would you get that back than putting a woman in place? And a woman who is very Christian." — Ian (32:14)
  • Discusses the controversial circumstances around Charlie Kirk and Erica, referencing conspiracy theories and public skepticism.

8. Rituals, Sacrifice, and Historical Continuity of Evil

• On Adrenochrome and Ancient Rituals

  • Ian connects modern conspiracies about elites to ancient human sacrifice practices, arguing that evil simply "rebranded."
  • "Evil never went away. It just rebranded. ... Now it's just a bunch of people in suit and ties." — Ian (37:24)

• Election Cycle Patterns

  • Noted that major scandals resurface or "reheat" around election cycles to distract and fragment.
  • "It was the Podesta emails... then pizzagate... now it's the same story, just adding a little bit more." — Ian (38:48)

9. Gatekeepers, Compromise, and Authenticity Online

• The Case of "Compromised" Influencers

  • Discussing figures like Nick Fuentes, Ian and Sean speculate that widespread exposure leads to moderation or co-optation.
  • "Fuentes ... it's like a complete 180. ... Either he is compromised and they got to him right then, or ... he's just got to play the game to survive." — Ian (41:13)

• Scarcity of Genuine Voices

  • "There's not many of them. ... How many congressmen actually care about us as Americans? I bet you ... you could probably count them on one hand." — Ian (42:22)

10. Critique of Current and Past Politicians

• Skepticism Toward Politicians’ Motives

  • Both hosts criticize politicians for self-enrichment at the public’s expense, regardless of party.
  • "We have a bunch of politicians in power that don't give a rat's ass about any of us." — Ian (18:48)
  • "Kamala just bought a $8 million house in Cali. ... Who’s turning that down?" — Sean (42:51)

• Reflection on Trump

  • Ian, a Trump voter, openly questions what real improvements he (or any recent president) has delivered for ordinary Americans.
  • "Give me three ways how he's improved your personal life or the people around you. ... Not in any way, shape, or form." — Ian (43:56)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Political Division:
  “You can tell where somebody is politically aligned just based on how they dress. ... It's crazy that it's gotten to the point where politics have completely divided us in, every way.” — Ian (03:02)

• On Demoralization:
  “We’ve seen this process of demoralization slowly taking place in our country. The really scary thing about it is that... the demoralization process is almost complete.” — Ian (04:20)

• On Elite Corruption:
  “There may be elites and government officials in every... at the very top eating kids.” — Ian (05:00)

• On AI and Reality:
  “It’s scary. AI is going to eliminate truth 100%.” — Sean (09:40) "AI is going to radically change the world... once AGI hits, it's about creating new knowledge and alternate answers." — Ian (13:09)

• On Labeling Dissent:
  “During BLM, you're a racist. ... During COVID, you're a science denier. ... Now, I'm an anti-Semite.” — Ian (18:48)

• On the Futility of Today's Politics:
  “It's a movie, bro. ... This movie sucks. I want a refund.” — Ian (44:53)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:00 – 04:10: Opening remarks, ubiquity of politics, two-party system critique
• 04:10 – 09:57: Epstein files, demoralization, information flooding, AI's effect on truth
• 11:56 – 14:09: AI's impact on knowledge, class, and control
• 14:42 – 16:26: Indoctrination in schools, social isolation, effects on change-making
• 18:48 – 24:38: Ian’s personal experiences with censorship and being labeled
• 26:19 – 31:55: Cancel culture's decline, bread and circuses, power of distraction
• 32:07 – 34:31: Political speculation – Vance-Kirk ticket, controversy around Erica Kirk
• 36:11 – 39:03: Adrenochrome, ancient rituals, pattern of rebranded evil
• 41:13 – end: Influencer compromise, public cynicism of politicians, reflection on Trump

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Final Thoughts and Calls to Action

• Ian’s Simple Message:
  "Patriotism is not partisan... If you love your country and you love your people and you want it to grow and thrive and be free and you're willing to defend those things, you're a patriot." — Ian (45:24)

• Find and Support Ian:

  • Instagram & X: @IWenster
  • YouTube: The Ian Went Show

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This wide-ranging episode blends sharp criticism of America’s power structure with personal anecdotes and warnings about the future. Ian Wendt advocates for unity, critical thinking, and skepticism toward both mainstream and alternative narratives, refusing to accept division as inevitable or permanent.

Transcript

[Ian Went]

I do not believe that God put us on this earth to be constantly political. That is a man made thing and it's destroying us completely. People will be more concerned with an NFL halftime show than the fact that there may be elites and government officials and everybody at the very top eating kids. We've seen this process of demoralization slowly taking place in our country. The really scary thing about it is that foreign.

[Podcast Host]

Okay, guys, got Ian finally on the show. We've been talking for years. Got some important information to share today.

[Ian Went]

Yeah, man, thanks for having me. It's. Yeah, we've been talking for a long time.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, we made it happen. Both come from the entrepreneurial world, but now we're talking a lot of politics these days.

[Ian Went]

Yeah, yeah. It's kind of inevitable, though.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ian Went]

How do you avoid it?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, No, I was telling him I grew up not talking about it at all.

[Ian Went]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Literally at all. Like with my parents or anything.

[Ian Went]

And then I think that's how most people grew up. I mean, honestly, I think most people grew up in a world where it's. The whole idea of, like, politics was a very, like, you know, it was a very, like, taboo thing. You don't talk about politics at the dinner table. You know, it wasn't something that was widely accepted.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ian Went]

And quite frankly, nobody really cared. Because I don't feel like in this day and age of the information, how fast information travels. Now everybody's so politically charged because of just the atmosphere in general now. It's not even like a don't talk about it thing. It's like a. You can't not talk about it 100%. Like every single conversation goes to politics. But I think that's very calculated.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I agree. I think Trump at 16 brought a lot of the younger generation into politics.

[Ian Went]

Yeah, for sure. I think so. I think that definitely, because, you know, it was more of like a. It was more of a celebrity, more of a brand. And honestly, it was also just the crazy polarization of it.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ian Went]

But I think it's also just the world of social media has brought that out, you know, Cause media in general, mainstream media, social media, those are the things that they thrive off of. Politics. Politics are what create the engagement forum, create the, you know, the views or whatever.

[Podcast Host]

So algorithm rewards degeneracy and politics and fighting and debates.

[Ian Went]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

And it's become a weapon at this point.

[Ian Went]

100%. It's. I, I actually said the other day, I don't think there's anything. I actually encourage people being politically homeless. Like, if at this point, you are subscribing to either of the parties. And if at this point you are, you know, hitching your wagon to any of these, like, you know, tribal loyalists, slash any, any of these groups that are, that are completely based on, you know, licking the boots of whoever the politician is that's, that's running it like you're, you're missing the plot. Yeah. Because it's two wings of the same bird. And what matters now more than ever before is just that we look inward as a people and it has to get back to we the people.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ian Went]

Because our politicians and our system and the government have failed us completely and totally. And it's because of this two party system. This two party system is the greatest cancer in our country. I truly believe that because it's like you said, it has made everything tribal. It's made every single part of our life revolve around politics. I mean, people are to the point where you can tell where somebody or most of the time you can tell where somebody is politically aligned just based on how they dress. And people immediately start passing judgment to just based on how somebody dresses because, oh well, this person's dressing this way, so they're probably leaning more right or left or whatever. I can't be friends with them. It's crazy, bro. It's crazy that it's gotten to the point where politics have completely divided us in, in every way. You know what I mean? Like, we are not, I do not believe that God put us on this earth to be constantly political. Like it's a, that is a man made thing. We are not meant to just be political creatures and it's destroying us completely.

[Podcast Host]

100. And there's a higher game being played. Right. Because in the files it shows that even the highest levels of politics are

[Ian Went]

compromised on both sides.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ian Went]

It's not one party. It's not, it's not, you know, it's both parties. Both are involved in this unimaginable evil. And you know, we talked a little bit about this, but what's really happening right now is we are in a, we are in a state of demoralization. Those of us who have been watching this, you know, it's funny, I like, I hate the whole like, I told you so thing, but I have so many people that are now coming back that like unfollowed me in 2020 or whatever, and they're like, dude, you know, how did you know? It's like I called you a conspiracy theorist back there. I thought you were crazy. Now all this stuff is coming out. And it's like, how did you know? It's like. Because we were. We were paying attention to what was going on. You know, everything from the. The first Podesta and Hillary Clinton server and the wiener laptop and everything with Julian Assange. I mean, they buried Julian Assange in a hole because of what he put out, Right? And now people are just starting to wake up. But what I've been telling everybody is those of us who have been paying attention for the last decade, we've seen this process of demoralization slowly taking place in our country. The really scary thing about it is that everybody that's waking up right now there, it's all. The demoralization process is almost complete, but for them, it's just starting. They're just starting to recognize that. But it already has so much momentum. And so it's gotten to the point, dude, where people will be more concerned with a halftime show, an NFL halftime show, than the fact that there may be elites and government officials in every. You know, everybody at the very top eating kids. Like, in what world do we live? I had. I had somebody make that comment to me. They were like, I said something about. I made a post about outrage, and I said. I said, it's crazy that we now live in a world where there's more outrage for a Super bowl halftime show than there is for the Epstein files. And I had somebody comment and say, well, there's enough outrage to go around. I think we can be. I think we can be mad about both things because both things are important. And I'm like, I'm sorry, I. I thought that ritualistic child trafficking and sacrifice and murder, they probably fall a little bit higher in the priorities.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ian Went]

Like, the list of priorities. You know what I mean? Like, but that's how these people think and believe a lot of them, because they've been so completely demoralized. It's this. It's this idea. Yuri Besmanoff talked about this. I'm not sure if you're familiar. He was a. A former KGB agent that defected, basically, and he talked about this whole process, and he said the whole point is to flood society with constant chaos and information and news and tragedy and just everything you possibly can at an alarming rate. And it gets to the point where people think, what. How do they feel right now? You can probably tell. You see it online.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ian Went]

They're like, what the hell do we do? And then it's just like, the next day onto the next thing, oh, there's a shooting here. Oh, okay, that's crazy. Let's talk about that. Wait, then they bombed this country yesterday, the next day. Okay, that was crazy. Then we went into this country and took this dictator overnight. And like, it's just there's so much information and very little actual knowledge. And truth has become. You know, they say truth is the first casualty of war. We're watching it play out.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. There's no objective truth anymore.

[Ian Went]

None. You can't know what's real. You can't know what to believe. And now with even, like the Epstein files, right, none of that is really smoking guns, Right. Like, there's a lot of information in there and there's a lot of evidence, quote, unquote. But if people don't think that they release those files the way they did on purpose, you're not paying attention because it is impossible to actually corroborate any of the things in there. Like, it's just a bunch of information, it's a bunch of emails, but nobody can really say, oh, this is what happened, you know? And even with the videos and the pictures that are coming out now, isn't it kind of coincidental that it comes out right as AI is like growing at a speed that none of us can possibly comprehend.

[Podcast Host]

So you think they waited intentionally?

[Ian Went]

No doubt in my mind.

[Podcast Host]

There's no sense. Because Biden could have dropped it years ago, right? Yeah, easily.

[Ian Went]

Easily. So why didn't they? Well, I think it's. For one, it's because all of them are involved at some level, whether they're involved in being blackmailed or whether someone around them, you know, whatever. But I do think that it's very. It's very, you know, interesting that it happens right now as AI is like taking the Internet by storm, because how many things have come out already that have been AI? The. The thing about Epstein in, In. In Israel, right. Yeah, I definitely think the guy's alive. But that video and that picture were very much AI and you could tell, and it. It was debunked like six ways to Sunday right after it dropped. Right. So. But then again, the picture that. I'm sure you've seen, this one, the picture that surfaced like, I think it was like 2017 or something. The aerial view of him coming out of the car. Did you see that one?

[Podcast Host]

I think so, yeah.

[Ian Went]

That one, there was no AI back then. You can't fake that that was real. Right. But all this other stuff coming out, like, it's just. It's so easy to confuse the population. And I think that's it's it's bread and circuses.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. It's scary. AI is going to eliminate truth 100, you know what I mean? Because you're gonna see an image and I'll be scrolling on Instagram. I can't even tell anymore. At first you could tell like years ago.

[Ian Went]

Yeah. Yeah. Because it was like, it was pretty easy to tell. And even now if you're, you know, if you're paying attention, you can, you can kind of.

[Podcast Host]

You could tell on most. But the average person's not as savvy as us.

[Ian Went]

No. Well, and especially generation wise. Right. The older generation has no clue.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ian Went]

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[Ian Went]

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[Podcast Host]

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[Ian Went]

You know they're so funny. I've seen some that where they like prank their dad or something. Yeah, it's so funny.

[Podcast Host]

Have you seen the gay prisoner one the way? What dude, that one's hilarious. So he facetimes. Somehow he gets these prisoners on A zoom call. I don't know how he does it. And then he takes an AI of them kissing a fellow male inmate and he shows it to them on the call.

[Ian Went]

Oh, my gosh.

[Podcast Host]

And it's just AI and the prisoners believe it because they're all old. They don't know what AI is, dude.

[Ian Went]

And they. Well. And they're not in the world, so, like, they have no clue. That's crazy. No, you have to send that to me later.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I will. Crazy times we're in, though.

[Ian Went]

No, and you know what? I actually, I was talking a little bit about this on the last podcast I was on, but I'll. I'll mention it too. AI is like, easily one of the scariest things to me personally. I know it's going to create a lot of good. It's going to be like any other technology. There's going to be a lot of good that comes from it. Right. There's going to be a lot of amazing advancements in all different areas of our lives. But at the same time, dude, there's a reason why so many of these executives and, and like, people that have been involved in this for years and years and years are coming out as whistleblowers. They're like, we are opening Pandora's box and we do not understand what we're doing. And the way I look at it is AI is going to completely and radically change the world in the fact that it's going to give every single person access to unlimited knowledge. What happens when that happens? Like, how do we create value in the world if everyone has the same amount of knowledge, what becomes valuable?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, because knowledge is no longer valuable. It's crazy, right?

[Ian Went]

That's what create.

[Podcast Host]

I mean, that's right now, that's what creates wealth. Knowledge. Right, Right.

[Ian Went]

So then what creates. What creates wealth? And that's. I've said this a bunch of times. I think. I think the way we're headed is we are going to recreate the class system. I think the class system is going to go from being based on. On how much money you make, you know, lower class, middle class, upper class, whatever, to how much knowledge is available. And the same people that control the amount of money that you can make this, the same people that control the monetary system, those are now the ones that are controlling the knowledge, which is already kind of happening, right. With censorship and everything else. They already kind of control the amount of knowledge, information we're actually able to receive. But imagine that it's now actually gatekept and they control how much knowledge can be distributed amongst the classes? Because once AGI hits, we're gonna go from pulling information that already exists and giving you the best, fastest answer to creating additional information, new knowledge, and alternate answers.

[Podcast Host]

Wow, that's crazy. So they'll fake people out with answers, give the lower class shittier answers or false answers.

[Ian Went]

You can literally control the entire population however you want.

[Podcast Host]

Holy crap. That's crazy. That is. Our kids are gonna grow up in this society 100%.

[Ian Went]

And so think about it now. Like, we don't know what's true right now imagine if they had the ability to create the reality that they want and nobody knows the difference. That's some serious dystopian reality. But I think that's where we're headed.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I mean, they pretty much already did this with textbooks in school, right?

[Ian Went]

For sure.

[Podcast Host]

Now they're just amplifying it.

[Ian Went]

Well. And that's all part of this demoralization process. Right? It's all part of everything we've been talking about. Like, it. It starts in the schools. 10, 15, 20 years of constant re education and indoctrination of Marxist ideologies and things that ultimately, what it's doing is it's isolating us as a people. It's dividing us, but then it's also isolating us. It's making people feel like they have to rely on themselves because they can't rely on anybody else because everybody's divided and everybody's, you know, one way or the other or whatever. And so it's created a society that has become completely. Not only divided, but also isolated. And that's necessary if you want to actually, quote, unquote, conquer a people.

[Podcast Host]

Right? Yeah.

[Ian Went]

Because united we stand, divided we fall. There's 600 of them, and there's how many millions and millions of us. Right. That's very calculated. And so I. I think all of it is. You know, it's like. It's like the conspiracy theorist. I'm everybody's favorite conspiracy theorist. Right. I'm on the wall like this. Like, everything's connected, but literally, if you think about it, it really is. It's all connected. And it all leads to ultimately creating more control. More power, or I should say more. More power and then more control.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I can see that. We're definitely isolated. I think the average person has two friends now, according some new studies.

[Ian Went]

Dude. I heard. I maybe I saw something different, but I heard that regarding men specifically.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ian Went]

That the average man, like over 60% of the average men don't have one friend. That they could call if they needed to.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Ian Went]

One.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Ian Went]

That's cr. I don't. I think. I can't remember where I saw. I wish I could pull it up right now, but I believe that's what I read somewhere.

[Podcast Host]

And that's nuts.

[Ian Went]

Think about that, though, right? It explains a lot of why we are where we are. It explains a lot of why it's so hard to actually affect change in this world. Because if men are completely isolated like that, we are what actually move and shake the world when we get together. Right. But how many. How many men do you know of that are able to just, like, come together and actually make a. Make a difference, actually stand up to this?

[Podcast Host]

Not many at all, which is why

[Ian Went]

it's not happening, because everybody sits back and says, what do we do?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. This is what Tate spoke about years ago. They locked him up.

[Ian Went]

Imagine that.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ian Went]

Why?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Three, four years in Romanian prison because of this. When you're too early.

[Ian Went]

It's crazy, bro.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. What have the been some repercussions you face? I know you got attacked by a canary mission.

[Ian Went]

I mean, look, I. I've been outspoken about everything since, you know, 2019. I'd always been kind of a closet conspiracy theorist, whatever. Like, people knew that about me that were close ever since basically, like, 2000. I mean, really since, like, 2014. Because I. I grew up in upstate New York, and I experienced 9 11. And a couple years after that, I really started to, like, dive into the 911 conspiracies and everything. And that kind of just got me on this whole thing. But it was never something I really brought out, because I didn't need to more just kind of like, we know that this. We know this about Ian, but he doesn't really talk about it. But in 2019, 2020, I decided, like, I can't stay silent.

[Podcast Host]

Pandemic was the.

[Ian Went]

No, it was the BLM riots. When the riots were going down, I was like, dude, this is completely fabricated. Like, they are showing us one thing because they want us to again. It's another. It was another effort to divide us black and white. Right. And that was exactly what was going on. And that ushered in all the stuff with COVID That ushered in all the ability to do everything else, and I spoke about it, and that's kind of when I started to really, like, blow up. I won't go into that because I, you know, find any other podcast and I've talked about this story. But my. My point is, from the very beginning, anytime that I've spoken Out. I've been very consistent in my messaging. I'm very pro America. I am all about taking care of us. I don't want to send my tax dollars to any other country. I don't care what country it is. I was just as outspoken about Ukraine as I am about Israel.

[Podcast Host]

It.

[Ian Went]

I just. I want to take care of our people. I want America to grow and to thrive. I want my kids to grow up in a place where they're able to actually chase the American dream, build and create and live fulfilled lives. We cannot do that. The longer that we continue to try and pick people up off the ground with two broken arms. Like, we have to mend our arms first. And currently we have a bunch of politicians in power that don't give a rat's ass about any of us. And all they care about is lining their pockets and continuing to get more power and more control and doing it in a way that they're sending all of our money and all of our resources to other people in other countries. And it's like, I'm all about. I'm all about helping other people. Like, I am a big believer in the law of the harvest, right? And I believe that you have to give in order to receive. And that's not just a personal thing. That's on a major level. I also believe that countries, you know, function the same way. We need to be able to give if we want to be able to receive on a global scale as well. Right? But, dude, we are past the point of giving. We are more than ready to receive at this point. You know what I mean? Like, we are. We are past that. And so my. My consistent message has just been, for the love of all this holy, can we not get somebody that will actually care about us as Americans and will stop, you know, outsourcing all of our sovereignty and all of our resources to everybody else? That is to pay the highest bidder. And what's crazy to me, too, is all these politicians, they're in their, what, 70s, 80s? They got 10, 20 years left in this country or in this. In this world, right? Maybe less. And all of these people that lick their boots and continue to, like, become complete loyalists to them, Trump any. All of them, right? What do you think is going to come from that? Like, they don't care about your kids 40 and 50 years from now. They don't have to. They're leaving. They know that. They're on their way out. So why do we trust these people to make decisions on our behalf and in our best interests? If we know they don't have very much time left, like, in my opinion, they're getting theirs and they're ready to go. And it's like, you know, do what they can. Well, I don't know, man. I just, every time I've spoken out, I have been very, I guess just outspoken about whatever it is that's happening. And of course, it always comes with labels. During blm, you're a racist. No, I'm not. During COVID you're a science denier. You know, your grandma killer. No, I'm not. During the Ukraine thing. Right? You're whatever. All these different things, all these different labels, and now the most recent one is I'm an anti Semite. And it's like, what are you talking about? I don't, I don't condemn any people for the sins of some or many of that people ever. Because it's not fair to blanket statement any group of people. Like, that's just, it's. It's asinine to think that that's something people do. Right? So I never have. But just like I was loud about the fact that we were giving all of our money and resources and allowing Ukraine to occupy our country basically because of blackmail. It's the same damn thing happening right now with Israel. That doesn't make me an anti Semite. I'm not talking about the Jews. I'm talking about Israel. I'm talking about the people that are. That are committing a genocide on the world stage and then taking all of our money to do it. And, dude, Netanyahu shows up in our country for the seventh time in two years, right? Is this two years now?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ian Went]

Four minute standing ovation. Are you kidding me?

[Podcast Host]

Crazy.

[Ian Went]

26 standing ovations. One of them was four minutes long.

[Podcast Host]

Insane.

[Ian Went]

Have you ever seen Trump get a four minute long ovation?

[Podcast Host]

Never.

[Ian Went]

Me neither. Ever. And by the way, that was after they had a full motorcade escort shut down the entire highway for him the night before.

[Podcast Host]

This was in D.C. yeah. Wow.

[Ian Went]

And it's like, I just look at all that and I'm like, all of these people that were so loud during the Ukrainian stuff, right? When. I don't know if you remember this, but do you remember when the Ukraine flag was flying in Congress? They were Pelosi like, oh, yeah, held it up or whatever, dude. The right lost their minds over them. But now. Now what? Crickets. Why? Why? It's always. It always comes down to that. It always comes down to when I'm asking the question why it's Always about a group that supposedly you just cannot talk about. And it's like, why is that the case? Why. Why am I not allowed to criticize BLM if I think that it's just a corrupt organization taking advantage of black people?

[Podcast Host]

And you were right about them, and

[Ian Went]

I was right about that. Why is it that I can't question that the government and these. These. All of these elites are actually using Covid to get rich and to create the greatest wealth transfer in the history of the world and also to kill people?

[Podcast Host]

Yep.

[Ian Went]

And was I right about that? Sure was. There's a lot of people that are dying. These turbo cancers, all this crazy stuff. Okay, so why am I not allowed to talk about that? Nobody says, why am I not allowed to criticize Ukraine? Why am I not allowed to point out the fact that the Bidens seem to have some kind of connection with charisma and everything else? And that seems to be why they're making all these decisions that are in behalf of Ukraine and not on behalf of America. Right. So now why can I not question the fact that we are sending billions of dollars to Israel, who is not giving us anything back, and continues to steamroll their way across the Middle east doing whatever the hell they want? We know they have one of the most robust propaganda platforms on planet Earth. Right. And on top of that, we know that they literally fund most of our politicians. And then you watch something happen, like with Bibi Netanyahu, with the entire. It's not just one side, it's both sides. It's all of them standing ovation for four minutes. Why am I not allowed to question why that's happening? Why does that make me a Jew hater? Because those labels are their weapons. Those labels are the way that they stomp out the opposition, any and all opposition. And it's been that way since day one. It is the same playbook. It's just a different team in a different game that they're playing.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ian Went]

And, you know, I think that's everybody that can relate to that, understands that this is the game that they're playing. But I think that the most important thing we can always do is just stay consistent in our messaging. I've never wavered. Once when I got attacked by Canary Mission, it literally fell flat two days later. Why? Because there was nothing they had on me.

[Podcast Host]

Cancel. Culture's dead.

[Ian Went]

In my opinion, it is, bro. They. I literally told them. I was like. So, first of all, if you ever. If you saw the post, there was, like, six screenshots that they took from my ex or whatever. And the title was Blames Everything on the Jews. Yet not one of those. Not one of those posts ever said the word the Jews. It all talked about Israel or Bibi Netanyahu. That was it. And. And I literally. I made a comment, and I was like, hey, how about you? How about whoever's doing this come on my podcast and talk to me and actually figure out where I stand or. Or even better, go do a deep dive in my content. I dare you. You won't find one time where I've said the Jews talking about any of these issues, because I haven't.

[Podcast Host]

And they didn't respond to it.

[Ian Went]

Of course not. No. But I gained 8,000 followers. Yeah, bro. I mean, every single person. It was funny because you go down the comments, and all of them are like, well, thank you for telling me who to follow. Right.

[Podcast Host]

That's funny.

[Ian Went]

People are done with it, man. And that's the thing. That's actually what makes it even more scary, is they're getting desperate.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I mean, they have to. People are waking up. LeBron's getting on right now. Did you see that?

[Ian Went]

Oh, no, I didn't.

[Podcast Host]

LeBron made a comment about Israel at the All Star Weekend, and he said he wants to go there, and people are like, what the. This guy's out of touch, bro.

[Ian Went]

I went to jail for LeBron.

[Podcast Host]

What?

[Ian Went]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

What'd you do?

[Ian Went]

Yeah. I haven't told this story in a long time. It's the only time I've ever gone to jail. I was in. I was in Indiana when I was selling, and I was at. I think I want to say it was game three or game four of the finals. And long story short, dude, I was. Me and my buddies were there, and we were in. I. I used to be a huge LeBron fan. Like, massive. I have, like, six different jerseys of his.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Ian Went]

He's an amazing player. I mean, I was a big fan. And anyway, so I was there. I was wearing. I was in his Olympic jersey. My buddies were in the. You know, the other jerseys, whatever. And when the game was over, we were walking out. Have you ever been. I think it's called. I want to say it's called Bankers Field or something like that. I can't remember the name. But anyway, the way it's set up is, like, you have the doors where you walk out, and then there's, like, an open space, and then stairs and an open space, and then stairs and open space. So it's like a big, huge open place.

[Podcast Host]

Right.

[Ian Went]

Anyway, we come out the doors. And as we're walking out, remember, there's, like, hundreds of people filing out. And I remembered. I was like, oh, the. The post. The post game shows in there. Like, let's go. Let's go check it out, because Barkley was there. Let's go. Let's go see it. And I was younger back then. This was like, 2012, 2013.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that was against Oladipo. I think that was a while ago.

[Ian Went]

Yeah. And so anyway, so the way the doors work, though, is they close from the inside, so there's no handles on the doors. So basically, as these hundreds and hundreds of people are coming out with us, I just tried to slip back in so they could go see the post show. Right out of nowhere, this cop grabs my arm and pulls me out of the door. It's like, get out of here. And I was like, okay, my bad. Like, sorry, right? All I was trying to do is go see the show. But anyway, we walk down to the next set of stairs, and the same cop comes up, and he's like, you better leave right now, or I'm gonna arrest you for trespassing. And I'm like, trust? What are you talking about? There's, like, hundreds of people out here. We're like, what makes us different? Because they were all. We were all standing out there just talking, right?

[Podcast Host]

And.

[Ian Went]

And he's like, I don't have to give you an explanation. Anyway, long story short, it happened two more times where the guy came up to me after we walked farther and farther away. Finally, I'm on the sidewalk, and he comes up, and he just gets in my face. And I'm. And he's like, this is the sidewalk. It's for walking. I was like. I was like, bro, like, there's hundreds of people out here. Why are you picking on me? And anyway, he got my face again. I turned around, and I. Basically, I said. I think I, like, looked at my buddy, and I was like, oh, he's on a power trip. Before I know it, dude, I. This guy freaking picked me up from behind, slammed me on the pavement, Face to the pavement. Freaking handcuffs, paddy wagon.

[Podcast Host]

Holy crap.

[Ian Went]

Straight to jail. So I get in. I get in the holding cell that night, and I go up to the guy at the desk, and I'm like. I'm like, dude, I'm sure you get this all the time, but I feel like I was wearing the wrong jersey in the wrong place tonight. Like. Cause I'm not. I'm. I don't drink. I don't smoke. Like, I'm not. I wasn't being belligerent or anything. He's like, oh, tell me what happened? So I told him. He's like, yeah, you just picked the wrong cop of the wrong night, because I think they lost that night. I was like, what do I do? He's like, well, you just got to. You just got to wait it out. So I literally stayed 13 hours in that holding cell just for them to let me go chase. So, yeah. So, no, no, no. They didn't even bring me to the judge. It was literally just. Just to do it. Like, the cop just did it.

[Podcast Host]

I'd love to see the body cam on this, bro.

[Ian Went]

Is so stupid. And so anyway, it's funny because that was all for LeBron, because I was a big fan of his. And then sure enough, few later or a few years later, he starts. You know, he actually started saying some seriously racist things. Like, the first time I heard him on Is it called the Shop?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. His podcast with the barber.

[Ian Went]

Yeah. I can't remember exactly what he said, but he said something where it was, like, actually really racist about white people. And I'm like, this guy's out here crying, racism, and yet he's being the racist one, most racist one out of all of them. It's just crazy to me, dude. And anyway, so just going back to kind of what we're talking about. All of these labels and all of these, you know, these, I guess, categorizations that they create for people based on what they're talking about. It's been the same playbook. It's never changed. And their entire agenda is just to find ways to isolate and to divide anybody and anybody that comes off as opposition to what they're trying to accomplish.

[Podcast Host]

So that's what they want, right? They want us arguing about the dumbest stuff.

[Ian Went]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Sex.

[Ian Went]

I mean, breads and bread and circuses.

[Advertisement Voice]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Male versus female, red pill versus feminism. It's all a distraction, right?

[Ian Went]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

No, right versus left is the classic one.

[Ian Went]

Yeah. I mean, the right versus left thing is that's. It's a given. You know what I mean? But I. I think the number one reason why we are where we are, though, is it really comes down to something very simple. There's very simple. We are not united, and that's calculated. People cannot see past their differences. They've done such a good job of dividing us along every single line that people cannot see past that. And because we can't come together, we can never make a difference. Like, we. Because we can't do it alone. Right. And they know that. It's the whole idea of the. The ants and the. And the crickets. Right. There's so many more of us, but we just cannot come together because they continue to create more and more and more divide.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ian Went]

And that's why we are where we are. United we stand, divided we fall.

[Podcast Host]

Yup. What do you think is gonna happen after Trump? You think Vance is gonna take over? You think Newsom's gonna win?

[Ian Went]

I think it's a Vance Kirk ticket.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, Erica. Oh, my gosh. I do not like that. The sound of that.

[Ian Went]

Have you not heard that yet? Nobody said that. I haven't heard that. No one said that yet. No.

[Podcast Host]

Not on the show.

[Ian Went]

No. Just my opinion. Right. But I think at this point, the Republicans have a seriously big problem when it comes to midterms, when it comes to public support. Like, there's no question that people are not happy with the Trump administration. Everybody's calling them on their. On their lies, everything else. Right. How else would you revive that? How else would you get that back than putting a woman in place? And a woman who is very Christian. Right. Her husband was Charlie Kirk assassinated. All that. Right. That. I mean, it's a good story.

[Podcast Host]

Right?

[Ian Went]

For sure. And whether or not she would be. I think she would probably start out as vice president, but I don't think it would be long until.

[Podcast Host]

Wow. You think she could become president?

[Ian Went]

I think Charlie was meant to be president.

[Podcast Host]

Charlie was meant to be.

[Ian Went]

That's why they took him out.

[Podcast Host]

But Erica's under a lot of scrupulation. It would be hard for me to

[Ian Went]

picture, but I think. I think that was her. I think that was the entire point of her. I think. I think if you believe in the idea that she was honey pot, honey pot or whatever, it would make sense.

[Podcast Host]

Right.

[Ian Went]

And nobody knows. I mean, at the end of the day, everybody's. Everybody's speculating, but, like, you cannot deny that she's weird. Even like, you, dude. Even if she's not corrupt or something. Like, you cannot deny that it's freaking weird how she's acting. I made a post, like, a few days after Charlie. After Charlie passed and after she did that first, like, eulogy. And I basically said something like, all I hope is that if I'm ever assassinated in front of thousands of people, it takes longer than, like, four days for my wife to start working on my business. And, bro, I got so much hate from that. But it's funny, because all those people who are hating on me then, now they're like, okay, it's kind of undeniable, like, the amount of weird things that have come out about her past.

[Podcast Host]

The zoom call that got leaked, bro. Six days after.

[Ian Went]

Seriously, the was that. And I had insiders at Turning Point, literally since, like, the very beginning.

[Podcast Host]

Mine just got fired.

[Ian Went]

So did mine.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, we might have had the same one. We'll talk.

[Ian Went]

We'll talk about that. Yeah, because I had guys like, they were. They were literally telling me from the beginning that something was off. All of them felt it. Some. They. What's interesting too, is the one actually brought up everything about that audit, and he brought up the fact that the executive team was basically changed, like, right before it happened. But I, you know, it's just crazy, like, even just having this conversation. Think about this. How many topics can we talk about in 40 minutes with everything that's happening right now in the world?

[Podcast Host]

A lot.

[Ian Went]

There's so many. We're jumping all over the place. And I think that that going back, I think that that is the whole point. That is what these people want. They want the chaos. They want the absolute inundation of information and complete lack of actual knowledge and truth. And anytime we've gotten close to truth, like real truth, something else happens that completely divides us. Think about any of the times where it seems like our society started to kind of come together. And most of those times it was because all of us collectively recognized a truth. And then the minute that that happens, it's like they catch on and false flag event or false flag or something happens that completely divides us again, creates more polarization in the political sphere. And immediately, now, all of a sudden, it's like we're back to square one. And that's why for the last five years, that has been my message. Like, we have to figure out a way to see past those differences, and we have to be able to look at the true enemy, which is not each other. Yeah, like, not even close. Not even, dude. Not even close.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, the elites, whatever you want to call them, Deep state. They want us in a fear state.

[Ian Went]

100%.

[Podcast Host]

I mean, I know adrenochrome was a conspiracy for a while, but it's been proven now with the files. They want you in that fear state. Right.

[Ian Went]

I don't understand why people think adrenochrome is a conspiracy. I don't understand why people can't wrap their head around something like that. Maybe it just makes me like, I don't know. I don't know what it is, but I. I just simply base the fact that the, the idea of ritual sacrifice, the idea of like all these different satanic rituals and this kind of stuff, it's not new. Like this has happened since the beginning of time. The people sacrificing humans for better crops, right. Better weather, people sacrificing humans and even kids for better political outcomes or if there's like crazy unrest. That's what they believe, that if they sacrifice humans they would get power to be able to bring peace to the land or whatever. Right. Even to the point where there was actual child ritual sacrifice in. I forget what society was. It wasn't Mesopotamia one of those. But anyway, the, the whole idea was they believe that they could live longer. They believe that they could basically, you know, harness the fountain of youth if they could drink children's blood and sacrifice them to Moloch or ball or whatever.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ian Went]

So it's like, why is it that as a society or most people believe that that can't be a reality now? And I'll tell you, it's because it didn't go away. It rebranded. It went from being crazy, you know, like jewels and gold and like crazy looking figures that were standing on massive temples and doing all these crazy things out in the open, right. And being very, you know, just, just the, the overall dress and everything that happened in all these ancient cultures to now. Well, it's just a bunch of people in suit and ties. And so it's like, ah, they can't, they can't be evil. Right? Like, you don't expect the top leaders and elites and most important people in the country or in the world to be involved in this kind of stuff because of their suit and ties. That's what you're telling me. You're telling me that that's the reason why you can't believe that they're involved in the same things that all these other people in every other civilization has been. Evil never went away. It just rebranded. It just, it just moved with the times. And so for me, it's not hard to believe that that's what these people are involved in. And it's even, it's even easier for me to believe that there would be people that would capitalize on that and use it against them to gain more power and more control, which is what we're happening with, which is what we're watching with the Epstein files.

[Podcast Host]

Easily, when you look into a lot of celebrities and successful people, there's some weird family death. Always.

[Ian Went]

Always.

[Podcast Host]

Literally every time.

[Ian Went]

Always.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ian Went]

And it's the other thing too, is the very obvious thing. That I point out that many people don't seem to pay attention to is this always happens at election cycle, like 2015, 2016. What was it? It was the Podesta emails, right? It was the Hillary Clinton crap. It was the wiener laptop. Then 2019, 2020, pizzagate surfaces again. It was the same thing, but it was like a little bit more right. Then you have the documentaries that came out the out of Shadows, where. Yeah, thanks to Liz Crokin. Right. Liz Crokin was one of, like, the first people that really, like, brought Pizzagate to the forefront and all that stuff in 2020, and, like, kind of gave a voice to a lot of us that already knew what was going on, but also woke a lot of people up, right? And so it was like, okay, here's a little breadcrumb, and then here's a little bit more of that right before the two elections. And then now it's the exact same thing. It's the same story that they've been telling since 2016. The only difference is they're adding a little bit on a little bit more and a little bit more and a little bit more, but not enough for anybody to actually come to some real conclusions. And they've gotten to a point now where there's so much corruption and there's so much control in the system that they know people can't do anything about it. And they know they won't either, because they know that we've become such a docile, entitled, and apathetic society that most people just consume the content, move on to the next thing the next day. And the ones that could do something about it, the ones that actually do have a really powerful voice, well, most of them are employees.

[Podcast Host]

They're compromised.

[Ian Went]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Either they're being paid, or they've built their following and their whole world around being on this side or being this type of person or whatever. And they can't compromise because they just. They know that they'll lose everything. And, you know, it comes down to the same thing. Their selfishness and their own self preservation above taking care of all others trumps. Right. And that's. That's why we are where we are. There's not enough people that care enough about the truth and enough about actually sticking to a consistent message, regardless of what side, regardless of, you know, where you stand politically or whatever, but just being for truth.

[Podcast Host]

Well said. I also think when you get to a certain level of status, when it comes to viewership, you'll get a knock on your door, like, fuentes. Has completely changed, dude. You know what I mean?

[Ian Went]

Yeah, the Fuentes thing is really interesting to me. I don't know. Kind of to your point, though. I know there's a lot of people saying, oh, Fuentes is a fed. I've never met Fuentes, so I don't. I don't know. But I do. I have listened to him for a long time. And so. You're not kidding. It's like a complete 180. What's really interesting to me, though, is it happened right around the time where he started going on the bigger podcasts.

[Podcast Host]

Did you notice that?

[Ian Went]

Pbd. What were the other ones that he went on?

[Podcast Host]

He went on Piers Morgan, Pierce Morgan. There were some big ones. Candace.

[Ian Went]

Candace. Didn't he do Sean right? No, he didn't do Sean. Right on. Tucker, Tucker, Tucker. So it's Tucker, pbd, Sean Ryan, or I mean, Candace and Piers Morgan. Right around that time is where his messaging really started to change. So for me, it's like, okay, either he is compromised and they got to him right then, or, you know, he's just. He's kind of just gotten to the point where he's like, I need to play the game in order to survive.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ian Went]

You know, and it's like leaning into the content creation or whatever. But I don't know, man, I. I just, I really appreciate the creators that have stayed consistent with their messaging. And the ones that you can tell are not bought off. And you. And you can't.

[Podcast Host]

There's not many of them.

[Ian Went]

No, there's not.

[Podcast Host]

And it's just like kind of one hand.

[Ian Went]

It's just like Congress, bro. How many?

[Podcast Host]

Shout out to Dan Bazerian.

[Ian Went]

Yeah. How many. How many congressmen actually care about us as Americans? I bet you, you personally could probably count them on one hand.

[Podcast Host]

I know I had a few on the show and even those I can't even say care because the money's just too good these days, bro. Let's be honest. They're making hella money. They're making millions. Did you see the house Kamala just bought? I heard Gavin has a 16 million dollar house.

[Ian Went]

I don't doubt it at all.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, and that's one of them. He's got an 8 million dollar house too. Kamala just bought a 8 million dollar house in Cali. I mean, who's turning that down?

[Ian Went]

And it's just, it's just crazy though, because the amount of people that still think that these people are there to save them or still think that these people care about their well being and their families, and it's like, that's on

[Podcast Host]

you at that point. If you can't have your own discernment.

[Ian Went]

Even the Trump thing, like, I've had conversations with people and I voted for Trump.

[Podcast Host]

I would have voted for him. If I did vote.

[Ian Went]

I did, bro. And at the end of the day, like, I'm also willing to admit that I was wrong.

[Podcast Host]

Well, I think he was the better option for sure.

[Ian Went]

Yeah. The people that come at me like, whoa, you think? No, obviously Kamala wasn't a better option. Trump was a better option. But at the end of the day, I look at it and I'm like, he. I don't know, bro. I just. He has not. How has he improved your life? Give me three ways how he's improved your personal life or the people around you. Don't tell me about the border because, honestly, there's a lot of stuff coming out the border right now that isn't like your personal life. How has he improved it based on the administration?

[Podcast Host]

So far, he hasn't affected my life at all.

[Ian Went]

Not in any way, shape or form. Is it easier at all?

[Podcast Host]

No. The only thing I will say is maybe censorship.

[Ian Went]

Okay. Yeah, that's about it. Totally. And I can agree with that. I can agree that censorship is definitely far less than it was before, but it's not going to be forever. I mean, we know what's coming down the road, right? But other than that, actual policies, actual things to make American lives better. It's. It's the same thing we've dealt with everywhere else. It's just a different brand. Instead of focusing on the LGBTQ crap and all the woke stuff, now it's just focusing on the capitalistic stuff. Now it's just focusing on, like, dude, Pam Bondi, they bring up the Epstein files and the dow is over 50,000. Like, are you kidding me right now? How out of touch are you? Yeah, like, it's crazy to me. And it's a. It's a movie, bro. I mean, we're. I feel like we're. This movie sucks. I want to refund, like.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah. Crazy times run.

[Ian Went]

You know what I mean?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Well, dude, this is great. Where can people find you, support you and keep up with you?

[Ian Went]

Yeah. So Instagram and X I Winster I W E N D T S T E R My YouTube is the Ian Went show and Facebook, same as Instagram. But that's the best way to keep up with me and my business. The official Patriot gear.

[Podcast Host]

Been building that for about.

[Ian Went]

Yeah, dude, you're welcome.

[Podcast Host]

Absolutely awesome merch here. Got the hat.

[Ian Went]

Yeah, this.

[Podcast Host]

This is quality, bro. I got a lot of merch, but I could tell it's quality.

[Ian Went]

Yeah, you'll. You'll dig it. I know you like oversized stuff, so we try to. We try to be, you know, more trendy and everything, but the message of official Patriot gear is exactly what we've been talking about. Patriotism is not partisan. It is not an exclusive thing to one side, one. One type of person. If you love your country and you love your people and you want it to grow and thrive and be free and you're willing to defend those things, you're a patriot. And we have to remind people of that, because that message actually has the ability to unite people past all the division. If we can just get to that simple message.

[Podcast Host]

Love it. We'll link the merch store, too. Thanks for coming on, bro.

[Ian Went]

Cool, man. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Appreciate my guys. Peace. Thanks for watching to the end, guys. Please comment below your thoughts on the episode if you agree. If you disagree, I'd love to hear. I read every single comment. Means a lot to me. Thank you so much.