What They’re Not Telling You About Iran...| Nathan Cornacchia | DSH #1991

Summary

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Digital Social Hour – "What They’re Not Telling You About Iran..."

Guest: Nate Cornacchia (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)
Host: Sean Kelly
Episode: DSH #1991
Date: June 1, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this intense and wide-ranging episode of Digital Social Hour, Sean Kelly welcomes retired Green Beret and YouTuber Nate Cornacchia. The conversation centers around modern American foreign policy, the web of intrigue surrounding high-profile right-wing figures and organizations (notably Turning Point USA and the Charlie Kirk shooting), the real dynamics behind the coming conflict with Iran, and broader cultural disillusionment with media and political elites. Nate's military background and independent investigative work provide a candid, fiercely critical assessment of official narratives—particularly on the Charlie Kirk assassination, U.S. interventions, and America's true global threats.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Nate’s Background and Journey to YouTube Fame

• Rapid Rise on Social Media:
  • Retired from the military in late 2023; started a YouTube channel to initially support his firearms instruction business.
  • Saw early growth with veteran/military content, then exploded in popularity after producing content on Special Forces and exposing Stolen Valor cases.
  • “430,000 subscribers... just long form YouTube content. No Twitter account.” – Nate (05:06)
• Exposing Stolen Valor:
  • Investigated and exposed high-profile instances of Stolen Valor using official military records as evidence.
  • Approach was unique at the time: “We bring receipts. Right. So everything was backed by military records or lack thereof.” – Nate (06:52)

The Charlie Kirk Shooting: Unanswered Questions and Theories

Major Segment: [10:27–28:52]

Dissecting the Official Narrative

• Discrepancies and Skepticism:

  • Outlined the implausibility of a “lone gunman” theory:
    • The accused, an unremarkable 22-year-old, supposedly infiltrated the venue undetected, carried out a brazen assassination, and exfiltrated with sophisticated precision.
    • Use of a .30-06 high-powered rifle—unusually powerful for an assassination—allegedly caused only minor wounds, contrary to Nate’s military and ballistic experience.
  • “...the official narrative is so bad. The official narrative is almost the biggest conspiracy.” – Nate (11:15)

• Eyewitness Oddities and Reaction:

  • Multiple people were behaving strangely during and after the shooting, including Turning Point staff.
  • “Nobody reacts that way to being shot. Nobody slowly pulls the phone up and then just turns and casually walks away... Your adrenaline's out of control.” – Nate (24:07)

Alternative Theories and Ballistic Discrepancies

• Competing Hypotheses:
  • Explored conspiracy theories: drone-fired bullet, exploding microphone/battery, involvement of shape charges similar to Israeli pager bombs.
  • “Nothing I watched with that Charlie Kirk shooting matches anatomically what I have seen a high powered rifle round due to the human body... Especially the neck.” – Nate (19:13)
• Ballistics Testing:
  • Nate’s own testing: “We took our own .30-06s out... shot everything from cow neck vertebrae... explodes everything. Not only that, we ended it by shooting straight through steel plates.” (19:47)
  • Odds of the official wound description happening: “One in a hundred thousand chance.” (20:33)

Turning Point, Lawsuits, and Financial Questions

• Turning Point’s Legal Moves:

  • Nate and fellow investigators received a cease-and-desist after probing Turning Point’s finances—rather than after covering other controversies.
  • “Why now is Turning Point trying to sue people? ... It's over investigations into the financials.” – Nate (31:09)

• Life Insurance and Donations:

  • Sketchy financial arrangements for Charlie Kirk’s life insurance, and large donations flowing into Turning Point after his death.
  • “His life insurance policies were being paid by Turning Point as a loan... massive cash influxes that have come in since he's been killed.” – Nate (25:46)

• Erica Kirk as CEO:

  • Nate criticizes the move as “emotional blackmail”—using her widow status to shield the organization from criticism.
  • “They wanted to make Erica Kirk the CEO so that way they would have this grieving widow defense...” – Nate (32:04)

Impact on Conservative Media

• Declining Influence and Viewership:

  • Both Turning Point and Daily Wire are losing market share and trust, especially among young and America First audiences.
  • “Charlie was the face... if you go to their [Turning Point’s] channel now, they're averaging 2,000 to 5,000 views... It's dead in the water.” – Nate (33:36)

• Daily Wire Scandal:

  • Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire allegedly caught buying video views.
  • Marked shift in conservative audiences away from “mainstream” right-wing personalities who support endless foreign interventions.

Broader Political and Foreign Policy Critique

War and U.S. Interventionism: [37:11–42:56]

• War as Big Business:
  • U.S. military increasingly deployed for economic interests (oil, geopolitical control), with little benefit to ordinary Americans.
  • “We would go out, I don't know how many, you know, get in a big gunfight and drop $10 million worth of ordinance.” – Nate (52:43)
• Trump and ‘America First’:
  • Critiques the disconnect between political rhetoric around avoiding foreign wars vs. reality of ongoing/proposed interventions in Iran, Venezuela, etc.
• The Evolution of the World Order:
  • Predicts a return to a “three-superpower” era (U.S., China, Russia) with increasing regional confrontations and spheres of influence.
  • U.S. will not defend Taiwan: “We will let China take Taiwan willingly and then we will basically destroy all of the super chip manufacturing capabilities... give China Taiwan and maybe impose sanctions at most.” – Nate (42:34)

America’s True Threats: China & the Erosion of Domestic Focus

• Islam and Iran Are Not the Top Threats:
  • “Biggest threat long term to America is by far China — and that is not just militarily, but economically.” – Nate (44:16)
• America’s Wealth Outflows:
  • Massive aid to other nations, lack of investment at home, and rampant fraud/kickbacks facilitated by poor oversight.
  • “America is the one country that doesn't look out for its own people, we just give money away to everyone.” – [paraphrased] Nate (49:12)
• Military-Industrial and Political Corruption:
  • Both parties profit from forever wars and government contracts, e.g., Halliburton under Cheney, Trump family defense contracts.
• Collapse of U.S. Manufacturing:
  • Deindustrialization and reliance on AI/tech bubbles as illusory economic strength.

Iran: Myth vs. Reality [57:31–61:38]

• No Real Capability to Challenge U.S.:

  • “Iran has no capability of striking the United States... Even to Israel, no.” – Nate (57:40)

• Root of Hostilities:

  • U.S. interventions in Middle East follow “Clean Break Strategy” (toppling, destabilizing all regional powers opposed to Israel).
  • “Iran is the last hegemonic superpower in the Middle East that is in direct, indirect opposition to Israel.” – Nate (59:56)
  • The goal: destabilization, not democratization or liberation.

• Refugee Crises Are American-Made:

  • U.S.-led wars produce enormous refugee flows, then spark culture war controversies domestically about immigration/integration.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Charlie Kirk Assassination:
  • “Thousands of conspiracy theories... because the official narrative is so bad. The official narrative is almost the biggest conspiracy.” – Nate (11:15)
• On Ballistics and the Kirk Case:
  • “Nothing I watched with that shooting matches anatomically what I have seen a high powered rifle round do to the human body.” – Nate (19:13)
• On Turning Point’s Legal Threats:
  • “Why now is Turning Point trying to sue people? ... It's over investigations into the financials.” – Nate (31:09)
• On U.S. Intervention:
  • “For example, Venezuela...$25 million a day just to park that aircraft carrier strike group off the coast of Venezuela for six months.” – Nate (53:06)
• On the Myth of ‘Iranian Threat’:
  • “Iran has no capability of striking the United States... Iran is the last hegemonic superpower in the Middle East that is in direct, indirect opposition to Israel.” – Nate (57:40, 59:56)
• On The Real Threat to America:
  • “I think the biggest threat long term to America is by far China. That is not just militarily, but... economically.” – Nate (44:16)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 05:06 – Nate describes YouTube channel growth and anti-Stolen Valor efforts
• 10:27 – Host asks what Nate has recently been investigating; deep dive into the Charlie Kirk shooting
• 13:32 – Nate breaks down .30-06 ballistics and why the official story makes no sense
• 19:13 – Ballistic testing and the “one in a hundred thousand” chance official theory
• 24:07 – Analysis of Turning Point staff’s “bizarre” reactions during shooting
• 25:44 – Financial controversies, Turning Point legal threats, and sketchy insurance
• 32:04 – Critique of making Erica Kirk CEO for PR/emotional reasons
• 33:36 – Declining numbers for Turning Point and the Daily Wire
• 37:11 – Systemic problems with U.S. foreign policy/empire, war as business
• 42:34 – U.S. will not defend Taiwan; future of U.S./China competition
• 44:16 – “Biggest threat by far is China…”; not Islam or Iran
• 49:12 – U.S. gives money to everyone, but not its own citizens
• 52:43 – “Ten million dollars of ordnance in one firefight…”
• 57:31 – Deep dive: Myths about Iran’s military capabilities and American war aims
• 61:38 – U.S. military actions causing refugee crises, and the bipartisan role in this

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Tone and Style

• Candid, often blunt; laced with skepticism toward official narratives and institutions
• Empirical, drawing on firsthand experience and independent research
• Unafraid of controversy, both guest and host balance hard-hitting questions with nuanced, critical thinking

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Where to Find Nate

• YouTube & Instagram: Valhalla VFT

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This summary captures the essential controversies, investigative insights, and hard questions that shaped this unfiltered and timely conversation—a must-listen for anyone seeking to understand the deeper forces and hidden stories behind America’s foreign policy and cultural upheavals.

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[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

in Las Vegas in town for shot show. Let's go, baby. We just found out you're only two years retired, which is crazy.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah, yeah, Retired out of the military two years, two months ago.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Because I feel like I've seen your stuff for a while now.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

But yeah, yeah, we got, we got very, very lucky that, you know, started the YouTube channel right after I retired. And I mean, we didn't blow up that fast in the first year. Yeah, in the first year we did probably maybe 40 or 50,000 subscribers, which was pretty good. And then the, the second year recently has been a ton of growth. Nice.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

What are you at now? Like 404.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

430,000 subscribers. That's impressive after, you know, two years on YouTube. So.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah, and that's only doing long form, by the way, guys. Just.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Just long form YouTube content. No Twitter account. There is a tick tock account of me that's got I think 60 or 70,000 subscribers. It's not mine. Yeah, just some random, some random guy that. That's farmed all my clips and stuff. But yeah, we're just on YouTube and Instagram, so.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

So by choice, huh?

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah, I mean, I guess I think really what it was is, you know, I retired, retired Green Beret. So got out of the military late, late 2023 and started a firearms instructor business. And everybody was like, dude, you have to have social media because I didn't. I had a, A Instagram page with like a hundred followers, you know, with like my friends and family.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

As a green bra should I feel like.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah, yeah, because we just don't. Yeah, I mean, we're not, you know, with the stuff that we're doing, it's, it's a very low profile job going into foreign countries, potentially areas you're not supposed to be. Yeah. And so yeah, it's a low profile social media or low social media signature job. And then everybody was like, yeah, but you have to market your, your business. And so started the YouTube channel with, you know, just thought I was going to be marketing the business and then did a little bit of firearms content. Did okay. And then started talking about army special forces content. And then the. That a lot of that just went viral. And two years later, all of a sudden, this is, this is what we do. Yeah. So yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

And then you started exposing some people.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah, yeah, we've definitely done some stolen valor expose.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Those are hot as well.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

There's been. Was controversial at the time For a few of those people now, not so controversial because, I mean, we were, we were. Right.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

But, yeah, so there's been some of that as well.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

I mean, it was hard to argue with your points because you would go to the database. Right. And pull up their record seats.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah, we bring receipts. Right. So everything was backed by military records or lack thereof. Right. I guess you could say claims of, you know, awards that people didn't have or things like that.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

So I think that's why you were so effective, because no one was doing that back then. I feel like.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

No, especially in the veteran space. And you know, it's, it's, it's one of those things of like in, during the global war on terror, especially in like early 2000s to, you know, 2015, 16, when social media started building up, the vast majority of, you know, global war and terror veterans were still in the military, still fighting the war. And so you had a few, a few big names get out and start, you know, channels and start doing the podcast tour and start telling a lot of war stories. We've, we've learned since were, were not true. But that's really what it was, is I think a lot of it wasn't until the global war on terror ended and a lot of people started getting out like me and started entering the social media space and started looking around going like, these stories don't really sound as true as they could be.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

So that's where a lot of that exposing of Stolen Valor has, has happened over the last couple years.

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Have any of them reached out to you after you exposed them?

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

No, no, no, no, no, no. And you know, the thing is, is like me, Brent Tucker is another. Have you had Brent on?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

He's coming on next week, actually.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Oh, is he okay?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah. Small world.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah. So Brent, one of my good buddies, obviously one of the other, the other content creator in the space that's been big in that we reached out to these guys beforehand just to be like, hey, here's. We know that you're lying about all these things. We know that you built your, your profile or your built your brand off of Stolen Valor and lies. And if you want a chance to, you know, come clean, come forward, you could do it on our channel. Like, we're nice, kind guys. We're not going to beat you up on it. And Radio Silence, no interest. Well, worse than Radio Silence for, for one of them, you know, for your audience. Tim Kennedy, I'm sure, who's been on the show, by the way, his response when we first reached out to him about this was, I have 1.5 million followers. It won't matter what you guys do. And so turns out, you know, that wasn't the case when it, you know, everybody found out that, uh, there was so much stolen valor being committed there. But, but yeah, so that's, that's been, you know, but that's been actually like some of the stories we've done, but it's been a, a small part of, of the channel overall.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

What I've seen in that regards is like, sometimes it's the reaction that makes it worse because I moderate a lot of debates.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Exactly. Yes.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

And like, objectively, people are always trying to see who wins and who loses, but sometimes it's the person doubling down on their, their bad takes that gets them more hate.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

You know, I think what we have a huge lack of in America and in the content creation space is just the willingness to say that, like, I was wrong.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

And I've done actually quite a few videos where I've come forward and been like, I was wrong about this. And I think that's like, it's easy to do if you could just, you know, have the integrity to be like, I. I got this one wrong.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

But to your point, the, the people that decide to, like, I'm going to triple down on this. And it's like, I'm going to. Not only am I gonna try to double down on this, I'm gonna attack the people who are exposing me.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Right.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

And that one is, is usually where it goes real poorly if you're, if, you know, you better have a clean record if you're gonna attack people that are, that are exposing you. And.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah. So what have you been spending a lot of time investigating lately?

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

The Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk shooting has been. Our channel has done a lot of stuff on the, on the ballistic side of that. The odd discrepancies with the FBI, the security detail failures and trauma medicine. There's a thousand different things with the, the Charlie Kirk shooting that, that we've been looking into with the channel. So that's, that's been a big one recently. Is, is, you know, I don't have any answers on it, but, you know, I think all of us looking around at that case are like, something doesn't feel right about this entire story. It's like, that's been a big part of this recently.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

It's like a giant puzzle. I feel like there's pieces everywhere.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Thousands.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

So many creators are trying to, whether it's from your tactical angle or Candace Owens spiritual angle or whatever you want to call that.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah. Well, and the reason for that, the reason why there's a thousand different conspiracy theories you might call them, is because the official narrative is so bad. The official narrative is almost the biggest conspiracy. The idea that this 22 year old kid whose character profile consists of Magic the Gathering and playing video games on Discord, which nothing wrong with that. But the idea that he randomly out of nowhere drives to the UVU campus for an event, having never been there before, knows exactly where he needs to go to get on. You know, infiltrate into the scene undetected, get to the roof with a rifle we've still never seen.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Like pull that assassination off and then get away, get out of the situation. So he exfiltrates the situation successfully, but then also ditches his weapon in the, in a chicken coop on his way out for no reason. And then, you know, messes it, Messages his furry boyfriend admitting to the entire crime, but then gets home and no. And then says he's not guilty. You know, so like there's so many pieces to that. Also you have all the people, like different people in the crowd. As soon as the shot goes off, you've got George Zinn who drops his pants and says, I'm the shooter, I did it, I did it.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

The old guy.

[Sean Kelly]

Right.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah. And then you got another curly haired guy turning around cheering on it. You've got the week before the shooting, you've got five, six, seven different people posting on Twitter that Charlie Kirk is going to be killed next. Saw that. And so we know, we know that there's at a minimum multiple people involved in this. But the FBI's narrative is no, this is a lone gunman who acted 100% autonomously by himself and pulled this entire thing off. When we know that's not true.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

And so that is. And then you add in like the idea with the.30 06 and, and I don't know if your audience is versed in that, but the idea that a 3006 high powered rifle, we was used to carry this out when it's a weapon system that's typically used for killing moose. Right. And elk. The idea is it's such a powerful weapon that it's going to blow through 30 inches of elk carcass to be able to kill these, these big game animals.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

That weapon gets used from 140 yards and hits Charlie in the neck and barely causes any damage with no exit wound. All of those things together have just led, I think everybody watching this in all of America to just be like, we know something's not right here. We don't know what the answer is, but it's not what you're feeding us.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

And so the conspiracy theories I think start to fill in the gaps because we're inquisitive. Right. People want to know like we want to know what happened.

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[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

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[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

we're being lied to.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah. As more time passes, I, I feel like it'll be another JFK situation.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

It feels exactly like a JFK situation

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

because it's been a while now. I feel like if we were to get an answer, it would have happened already.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah. We're not, we're. We're never going to get a real answer, I don't think.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah, I agree.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Have you seen the drone theory?

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

What's it which probably I've covered pretty much all of them.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

What's.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Which drone theory?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

I guess, I guess the one that they said the drone fired the bullet.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah, that one. So some of them, you know, I've actually done a lot of content sort of debunking some of the theories. I think some of the ones like the drone theory are harder to believe because it gets super complicated. Or you have like the exploding microphone theories, you have exploding battery theories. You have shot from behind theories. And so I honestly, I tell everybody, I'm like, I don't know. At this point, four months later, I'm still open to a lot of different possibilities because again, the official narrative and that this lone gunman used a 3006 and basically created what and for us especially like global war and terror veterans and someone like me that's treated high power rifle wounds like in combat myself. And it's like nothing I watched with that Charlie Kirk shooting matches anatomically what I have seen a high powered rifle round due to the human body. Wow. Especially the neck. Right. You. You would 100% that 30 odds. You would 100 figure that 30.06round is going to hit him in the neck and rip half his neck off, if not his entire head off. Yeah. And I've done a bunch of ballistic testing on the channel showing where we took our own 300 sixes out and we shot everything from cow neck vertebrae which are 10 times as thick and strong as human cow femurs. Right. Which is holding up a 4,000pound animal wrapped in 8 inches of beef and it explodes everything. Geez. Not only that, we ended it by shooting straight through steel plates.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Holy crap.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Half inch steel plates that thick. That 3006 is going to blow right through. But the idea that Charlie's neck with the softest bones in your body because your neck vertebrae actually malleable and they have to be able to flex and bend. The idea that that neck Vertebrae somehow stopped a 36 round. It's not possible. Well, it's like a one in a hundred thousand chance that, that, that actually

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

maybe like the edge of the bullet, like glazed.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah. We don't know. But even like the real like ballistics experts that have really broken this down, like what's the odds that what we saw there happened to Charlie Kirk? And some of the, some of the most well known ballistic, ballistic scepters have said about one in a hundred thousand chance. Wow. So it's possible like did, did the, did Tyler Robinson hit the Powerball lottery that day? Maybe. Or it's something else that could be

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

some advanced weapon that we just have no idea about too. Right?

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah. And there's, there's a lot of theories right now. The new exploding microphone theory, the idea that he actually had a battery pack that was hooked to his chest to his microphone that was actually rigged with a shape charge, which is like an IED shape charge. That's. That one is actually, I'm not going to say that I'm putting my eggs in that basket. But it's very, very interesting. But again those, these are all just theories that are like trying to fill in the gaps because the official narrative doesn't work. And so what's interesting about the, the battery pack theory is it matches what the Israeli pager bombs did. No way. If you knew. And I'm sure you've heard about the walkie talkies, right? Yeah, the walkie talkies and the pagers that the Israeli used in against Hezbollah. And it's a very, very similar idea that potentially that's what was used against Charlie is that, I mean again, we've been looking into that. It's probably the best theory so far, but there's also, there's a lot of problems with that too. Right. You still, now you have a gunman that you can see on the roof, you've got, you could hear a high powered rifle gunshot go off. But you know, so again, I wish I had answers. I, I still don't have answers for it. But we're, we're trying to figure things out.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

The part that creeps me out the most about it was the guy that took the camera footage right after.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

He's actually, and that's not the creepiest thing he did. I forget, I forget his name.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

He was part of Turning Point.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Turning Point. So there's a bunch of, bunch of really sketchy things done immediately by Turning Points from their executives. There on the ground from the security detail. But the guy you're talking about was one of their audio engineers. And who you're talking about, he didn't just. He. That was later that he came down. He yanked all the Cambridge footage out. The first thing he did, the second Charlie Kirk was shot, and you can watch this back. Charlie Kirk gets shot. You see him get hit. The same guy we're talking about, he immediately runs around the corner of the building, pulls his phone out and starts filming himself going, they just killed Charlie. They killed Charlie. And you're like, we can watch that back. And be like, dude, you have no idea where he would have been shot at this point. You have no idea what could have happened to him in that split second for that to happen. How do you automatically know he's dead? And then you have Mikey McCoy, who is, I believe, the chief of Staff, returning point.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

He is standing right next to the same guy. The second Charlie is shot within. Within Under a second, 0.83 seconds, he has the phone to his ear, on the phone with someone. As he turns around and slowly, I don't know if you've seen this footage, slowly walks off. And I tell people, I've been. Trust me, I've been shot at in a lot of situations in combat. No one. No one reacts that way to being shot. Nobody slowly pulls the phone up and then just turns and casually walks away. His guns are your adrenaline. Yeah. Your adrenaline's out of control. You're in an active shooting situation right now. Nobody acts that way. And he just walks off into the.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

He was super calm, and they were super. They were actually really close, too. They were together for many years.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

So what does that mean? Does that mean they're involved? Not necessarily. But, like, everything you're looking at, you're going, this is super sketchy because this is not how people react in a active shooter scenario.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

While being shot at. I mean, being shot at. It's very normal human reaction. And that is not to just be, like, casually walking away. You're going to seek cover. Right. And that doesn't matter if you're a combat veteran or that'd be anybody. If you were to. Somebody were to come in here and start lacing rounds, like, we would both try to seek cover. We wouldn't just be like, yeah, what's going on in here? 100%, you know, so there's a lot of bizarreness watching that as well.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Is part of you worried to keep covering this story? Because you. I'm sure you saw the season Desist Turning Point sent out, I think two

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

days ago for me. No, I am not worried. Like, yeah, Turning Point. You want to try to sue me? You could try to sue me. Look, the reality is the truth is always gonna protect you when it comes to doing content. And so all I'm doing is talking in my content is really breaking down a lot of the tactical side of things, the ballistics, the security detail failures, different stuff like that. I think where the new Turning Point lawsuits that are coming, the cease and desist, these are the people that are investigating the financials of Turning Point, which there's a lot of very, very sketchy stuff going on with the financials as well, with everything from the life insurance policies.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Oh, did he have life insurance?

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah. Yes. And it's like very sketchily set up the way it was. It was basically being paid. His life. Life insurance policies were being paid by Turning Point as a loan. So Turning Point was loaning him the money to pay off these huge life insurance policies, which then he would, I'm sure, not pay back to Turning Point because, yeah, he owns Turning Point.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Oh, so the company was paying for his personal life insurance policies.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah, and just tons of other bizarre stuff too, as well as like massive cash influxes that have come in since he's been killed. There was obviously the big controversy of, you know, everybody thought that Charlie Kirk was the biggest Pro Israel guy in the world. And he was in a lot of ways. But then we also saw with what Candace Owens put out of the actual text messages of Charlie saying, 48 hours before he was killed, like, I'm tired of being bullied by my Jewish donors and I have no choice but to leave the Pro Israel cause like, Charlie Kirk said that, wow, 48 hours before he was killed. Does that mean necessarily they're involved? No. But at the same time, if you're

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[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

What we do know is that certain groups were also trying to invest tons of money into Turning Point that was being turned down by Charlie. And as far as I know, as soon as he was killed, those cash, those donations were then accepted from, from our greatest ally. So, you know, a lot of that's bizarre. A lot of the financials are very, very bizarre. And I haven't gotten super deep into that. A lot of my buddies have Jesse on fire who had on recently, who I'm good friends with. He's been doing a lot of content covering like a lot of the bizarreness with the actual financials going on at tpusa. But again, what does that actually mean? I don't know, like, does it have anything to do with him being killed? Who knows?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah, right.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

But it's bizarre. It's a whole lot of bizarre.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Very deep rabbit hole.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah, dude, it's the deepest rabbit hole we've seen in a long time.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah, I'm hearing crazy numbers, like allegedly like over $100 million, $140 million I think they've raised. I've been hearing that that's a lot.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah, you're looking at a sixth of a billion dollars.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

I mean, you could run the company for the rest of your life and be fine.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah, yeah. So I mean, at the same time, like that amount of money is, is the type of thing where you're like, and an assassination is in play. And it's like we don't know what the answer.

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[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

But. But it's also like why now is Turning Point trying to sue people? Not for there's, there's a thousand different things Turning Point could have been suing people for because they've been taking a lot of, a lot of heat. Erica Kirk as well. Yeah, but the, the finally when they decide to sue people, it's over. Investigations into the financials. Interesting.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

And you're like yeah, because a lot of people thought they would go after Candace.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

That's my point. You would have thought Candace of all people would have been sued for some type of defamation or something before then. Not that I think. I think Candace has been right about a lot of stuff she's looked into. But. But to your point or to my point, it's like it wasn't until the financials start getting investigated that they're like, not. Not. We got to put it in.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah. It's crazy how that was there.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah. That was their. That was their final. Their breakpoint.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Now don't talk about our money. Yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

It wasn't like Erica might be involved. It was. Oh, the financials. That's going to do it for us.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah. And I don't think the whole Erica is involved. I'm critical of Erica Kirk just because what I don't like is what I think Turning Point did is Turning. Turning Point decided it was strategic. They decided they wanted to make Erica Kirk the CEO of the company so that way they would have this grieving widow defense, which is. And this is where I say you lose your ability to not be criticized when you're the CEO of a company. So when you decide to put her in the. In as the CEO. Well, they did that so that. That way they can say, hey, you cannot criticize Turning Point USA because this is a grieving widow. So it's kind of like emotional blackmail in a lot of way. In a lot of ways. And I think people are just sick of that. Of, you know, if, if she wants to be a grieving widow, I'm all about that. But, like, don't put her in as the CEO of the company. Don't put her as. In the face of the company. Don't put her in that position to have to, like, do all of these things that look terrible for the. For TP usa. I mean, like, their brand is not doing well because of it as well.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Well, Charlie was the face. Like, oh, yeah, he drove all the eyeballs.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah. You know, and you can see that in their viewership. And it's, It's. It's kind of sad to see because they continue to put content out on Charlie Kirk's channel. But if you go back and watch, you know, the last episodes of what Charlie was doing, I mean, everything he put out did half a million to 5 million views.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

And that's on the long form, long for the clips. Every video is getting billions of views.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

And if you go to their channel now, they're averaging 2,000 to 5,000. Wow.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

That's crazy.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

On Charlie Kirk's channel, that's crazy. I mean, it's. It's dead in the water. And so to your Point, like, Charlie was the face of that.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

And so what are they going to do now? I don't know. But they're embroidered in the assassination, the financials, and, like, all of the sketchiness that's going on with that. So we'll have to wait and see.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah, there's a. There's definitely a counter movement right now. I mean, Daily Wire, similar numbers. They used to pull a lot Daily Wires.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

They're burning in hard, too.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

They just got exposed. I don't know if you saw. For Buying Views.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

So my video coming out tomorrow is literally an entire video on James Lee. Oh, yeah. His big expose. Yeah, yeah. My whole video tomorrow is on Ben Shapiro and Daily Wire being caught buying views. And it's very, very obvious that they are. When you actually look at how, how they're working it. Yeah. And it's, it's. I don't know, you know, with the Daily Wire and Ben Shapiro, it's just one of those things that I think American culture is shifting right now. And it's funny because if you go back to, like, 2016, I was a fan of Ben Shapiro in the day.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

I think, like, a lot of people were.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Everybody in the conservative space was. And now, now when you have this sort of America first sort of push, and people are just kind of sick of people like Ben Shapiro. You know, Ben Shapiro comes out and I've got a like 10 clips in the, in the video I'm putting out of, you know, him coming out and saying, young people, young Americans, like, if you can't afford to live where you're at, you need to move. Old Americans, like, you never deserve to, to retire. You know what I mean? And like, yeah, he's, he's trying to push to like, hey, bomb Iran, like, everything you're looking at. So he's, you know, foreign interventionalism. Our tax dollars going to every other country in the world other than, you know, being used on Americans. And I think Americans are just getting sick of that.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

I think a lot of us are looking around at America right now and we're going, look, the economy is not good. Even if we want to pretend like, oh, GDP is kind of high because we have this artificial six companies in the tech market, in the stock market that are all, you know, you've got Nvidia, Microsoft, Oracle, all the AI bubble companies that are all just selling each other their product in a circle to artificially jack this GDP up and make the stock market artificially high. Well, all of us are living in the real world with the real economy, or like, the economy is terrible, the labor market's terrible, people can't afford groceries, and we're still sending hundreds of billions of dollars to every other country while we've got a homeless crisis, fentanyl crisis. Like, there's a thousand problems in America. Yeah. And I think Americans are like. Americans are like, we're fucking tired of listening to people tell us why we need to support all of these other foreign countries. And it's not just about Israel or Qatar or Saudi Arabia or Argentina. It's all of it.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Mm.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

And most Americans are just sick and tired of, like, why are we sending hundreds of billions of dollars to countries with, for example, like Israel, who have free education, who have universal health care, but Americans don't have any of that.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yep.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

You know what I mean? And I think that's people like Ben Shapiro. That's why in the Daily Wire, that's why they're losing in the market, they're losing in the freedom, free enterprise of. Of open ideas, is that Americans are sick and tired of listening to people like Ben Shapiro explain why, you know, if you're a young American and you can't afford to live here, you. But at the same time, yeah, we need to send all your tax dollars to foreign countries. You know what I mean? It doesn't make any sense, at least for me.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

You know, so.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

And war has become such a business, too, now for our country. Right.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

It always has been. I mean, obviously, war has always been big, big business. But it's just why it's so bizarre now is you have within MAGA and Donald Trump. Donald Trump ran on the campaign of, like, no more forever wars, no more foreign interventionalism. We want to get back to nationalism. And then now, even like the first two weeks of 2026, we threatened to invade, like, six different countries.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

You know what I mean? And bombed them. I mean, we bombed Venezuela, we kidnapped Maduro. We're 100% going to bomb Iran. That's going to happen. And we're going to try to regime change Iran with. Within the next, probably month or two months. Right now we're just waiting because Israel's defenses weren't built up enough. So we actually called those strikes off last week. That's going to happen. You're going to have the, you know, the war in Gaza is going to continue. Like, it's. All of this is. And potentially we're going to, you know, bomb Cuba, we're going to overthrow Colombia, we're going to start bombing the cartels in Mexico, Greenland.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Canada.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah, Greenland. We're talking about. Yeah, we're talking about, like, invading a NATO ally right now.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

If I was serving in the military now, I'd be like myself, honestly.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Well, and this is the crazy thing, though, is when you're in the military, this is this weird juxtaposition when you're. When you're actually active duty and you're in the military, at least combat arms. I mean, like, guys want to go to war. They want to go to combat.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Oh, they want to go to war.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah, we did. And I don't ever glorify it. I'm very, very anti. Glorifying war with my platform because, you know, I went and fought it. I've had teammates that have killed themselves afterwards, lost teammates in combat. It's an ugly business. But at the same time, it is war. Fighting is what war fighters sign up and train to do. So if your entire job as a Green Beret or an ABCL is to, you know, train, and then the entire purpose of your career is to close with and destroy the enemy, well. And you're also very, very good at it, because the United States military is the best in the world at it. I don't want to call it like an enjoyable thing, but it is. It's like an NFL, like playing an NFL football game or a UFC fighter. Right? Like, you get in the cage and it's. It's exciting. The adrenaline's there. You love to do it. However, there is heavy consequences to be paid, especially on the. On the warfighter coming back from that. And that's what I've watched over the years is, is all the damage, emotionally, psychologically, PTSD buddies that have had their legs and arms blown off, eyes blown out. I've seen all of that. And as the result of these forever wars. And so I'm not somebody that's ever going to, like, support the United States getting in these weird foreign interventional wars for no reason, which. Which I think is what we're doing right now. It's almost. It's almost like we have the fall of the American empire slowly happening, and we're lashing out at the world right now because we do have the most powerful military in the world. But is this, you know, It's. It's in 2026, is this the type of world that we want to develop ourselves in? And what I see happening right now is you have a big push to sort of build this three superpower, Soviet Union era style Cold War, where the United States basically takes the Western Hemisphere which you see what's happening right now, it's kind of with the Monroe Doctrine and that we basically just give Russia the North, Northeast, or, excuse me, Northeast hemisphere. Right. So Europe, Russia, all that. And then we just hand China the south eastern hemisphere of the world with the South China Sea. And they want Taiwan, Cambodia, Thailand, Japan eventually. And so it's almost like you see this new rise of regionalism where you're going to have the three big superpowers essentially jostle, almost like imperialism again back from the 1900s. And I think that's why you see this big push of wanting to secure Latin America through places like Venezuela, Colombia, Cuba, but then also Greenland. Right. Greenland is the top side of that western hemisphere that we're basically trying to completely control for the United States. Is that what we want going forward in the future, where we want this big? There's three superpowers in the world that just do whatever they want. I don't know, because Americans are cheering this on now, but are you going to cheer it on when China invades Taiwan? Are you going to cheer it on when Russia takes the rest of Ukraine? Because that's what's going to happen. Right. Because the United States is setting the precedent of like, hey, we control this hemisphere, we do what we want. Well, China is going to start doing that, too. They're going to go say, hey, the South China Sea is ours, then Taiwan's ours, and there's nothing you can do about it. And we won't do anything about it. I want people to know I can't talk too much about it because I was in 1st Special Forces Group and we primarily handle the Asian theater. And one of our main strategic implications there is preparing for the potential invasion of Taiwan and China.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

And while I can't get too deep into what the reaction would be, I can tell you that the plan is there's, there's going to be. We are not going to stop China from taking Taiwan.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Wow.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

We will let China take Taiwan willingly and then we will basically destroy all of the super chip manufacturing capabilities. We'll take all the Taiwanese scientists and then we will pull them out and then basically redevelop it in the United States, give China Taiwan and maybe impose sanctions at most. Wow.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

So this has been planned already.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. The United States is not going to do anything to stop China from taking Taiwan.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Damn.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

There's no, there is no plan to stop China.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Taiwan has no chance.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

No, absolutely not. So it's, that's, that's all depending on when China Decides they want to do that because they think long term.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

China.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah. Thousand, a thousand year plan. And I think right now for China, I think they're probably looking at it with like, Donald Trump in power of like, wild card. He's a wild card. Right. So if any US President may be like, nah, fuck you, China, we're actually going to get involved. Militarily, it is Trump. And so I think China is probably just going to wait. They'll probably wait till 20, 28, get a, you know, a less wild card president in, and then that's probably what they'll do too. And then I wouldn't be surprised to see Russia continue to annex, you know, areas in Eastern Europe and Ukraine because that's what we're, that's what we're changing the world into right now. Man is three superpowers and everybody else just kind of has to play ball on the chessboard.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

With, with what we have going on.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

So, so that being said, I love asking guests this question. I've never asked a Green Beret this question. When you hear of the biggest threat to America, what comes to mind for you?

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Oh, biggest threat to America. Everybody's going to give you something different. Right. Biggest threat to America right now, the one Fox News will tell you is Islam. Of course.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yep.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

I don't believe that at all. Personally, I think, you know, what we have, 0.5% of the US population is, is Islamic. You know, is Islamic extremism a problem around the world? Yes. I mean, I went and fought the wars, but at the same time, I tell people I went and fought the global war on terror in, in Afghanistan as a Green Beret. Everybody that I fought the war with was Muslim. Outside of my 11 other teammates, we lead 50, 60 partner force to go fight. It's as Green Berets. We're not like Navy seals or Rangers or infantrymen where we go out as a huge American military unit. Green berets. There's 12 guys and we actually train a partner force or a host nations force, Afghanis, Iraqis, and we actually lead them out in combat. So there's 12 of us on the ground with 60, 70. Wow. You know, Afghans as we go fight the Taliban or Iraqis to go fight ISIS or whatnot. And so with that, I spent my entire career being fighting alongside Muslims, Afghanis, Saudis, Kurds. So is Islam the biggest, biggest threat to America? I just don't see it when you talk about Iran. Like, is Iran the biggest threat to America? No. Is it the biggest threat to Israel? Yes. And then so by extension the United States get involved. I think the biggest threat long term to America is by far China. And that's, that is not just militarily, but that is economically. And I think because of China's massive increase in their manufacturing capability, their technology, they're, they're starting to become a world dominant superpower. And so it's not just about like China being a threat in a direct military conflict, which if the United States, China went to direct military conflict to be the end of the world, like nuclear. Yeah. We would either, you know, you'd have, you'd have 100 million people die before nuclear war.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Oh my God.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah, because it's the two, it's the two major superpowers going in a first world peer to peer war.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

I mean the technology is insane. Drones, drones, everything. Everything. And we're seeing that in Ukraine and Russia. The, the, you know, you have, the, the casualty rate is so high there because you have two first world nations with like the best technology in the world.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Right.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Fighting against each other. And so I think China in the long term, even, maybe not even through militarily, but just China's ability to become the world's superpower in the Eastern hemisphere. And what does that mean for America as we continue to, you know, send, send all of our manufacturing overseas as we continue to lose all of our jobs to AI? Like what, what made America great after World War I and World War II is we were the manufacturing capital of the world. You know, we built everything.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

And now that's completely sort of disintegrated and disappeared. And it's going to be interesting to see in the next 20, 20 to 30 years what that means for, you know, China and the United States on the world scene. But I don't think any other country poses anywhere near a threat just as a superpower that, that China does.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

I actually agree with you. I'm half Chinese, my mom's from China. But I agree with you. A lot of people say Israel. A lot of people.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Oh, so. Well, that's an interesting one because I'm very critical of Israel. Obviously. Israel. Israel has very, very, when it comes to its influence on American politics and American politicians, Israel, I think is a very, very big problem. But there's a lot of countries that are a big problem too. Qatar is a big problem with their foreign influence. So it's not just Israel. Yeah. So I do think politically, obviously through APAC and everything that's happening, Israel is a big issue. But like for the long term, for the United States. Yeah. We're talking about, like, China as a superpower. There's, there's, there's nowhere. There's no comparison there. If, you know, you know, as we look forward in the future, as you know, things shift and jostle. If America moves away from its alliance with Israel. Israel, one of the first places they're going to run to is an alliance with China and Russia.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Damn.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Right away. I mean, they already do. Like, a big part of our criticisms with Israel. Criticisms with Israel is if you talk about technology, they take our technology with our F35s and a bunch of our jets and military technology, and they sell it to China.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Wow.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

So, I mean, that's like a very, very normal thing. So Israel is not like a. They're kind of neutral. Right. Like, Israel is concerned with Israel. And I actually don't even have that big issue. I don't have that big of an issue with. With the way Israel operates because Israel looks out for its own people in its own country. You know what I mean? And you would expect that China does that as well. Russia does that as well.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Not us, though.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah. America is the one. Is the one country that doesn't do that. I mean, you think about just the money we give away, right. Is like, is. Is Zambia or Zimbabwe or Nigeria. Like, are they giving America billions of dollars? No, but we're giving them billions of dollars. Like, you could go down the list and look at all of the countries we give money to and it's. It's everybody.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

You know, and it's even countries that, you know, it doesn't like Somalia, Sudan. It's like we're giving half a billion dollars to Somalia. Just straight out of USA crazy. It's like, for what?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

How do you think it's got to this point? Like, do you think it was a slow buildup or do you think it was?

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

I think what we're starting to see, I think a lot of it is embroiled in fraud. There's just a ton of money washing that goes into the USAID situation. And we're kind of seeing that in the United States right now with the welfare system.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Where there's just. There's no checks and balances to this. And like, even. Even with our own government, the Pentagon. Right. I don't know if you saw, but the Pentagon just failed its eighth audit

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

in a row, and nothing's going to happen from that.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah. And so that's trillions. Trillions of dollars that are what we're trying to boost the Annual Pentagon budget to $1.5 trillion. But the Pentagon has no idea where any of the money goes. And so what does that also look like? If we can't keep track of our own money at the Pentagon, where do you think all this money, this billions and billions of dollars that we give to all these foreign countries? Do you think we're tracking any of that? No, of course we're not tracking any of that. So we have no idea where the money's going. But I do think it gets washed. I think there's a lot of kickbacks with politicians that are, you know, making sure that that money continues to flow.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Whether it be through, you know, businesses that they own. For example, during the global war on terror, Halliburton. Who. Who was the CEO of Halliburton? Dick Cheney, the Vice President of the United States.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Interesting.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Was the CEO of the company that ran all the infrastructure for the military bases that made trillions of dollars off of the global war on terror. Wow. So that's like literal, like the, the actual Vice President was making. Making billions of dollars off of that war.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

How is that allowed? Because I know Trump had to seize all control of his businesses when he became president, Right?

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah, but I mean, at the same time, Trump seized all control of his businesses into a family trust.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Right.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

So he's Trump's also. The Trump family has made what, they've made $4 billion this year. A lot. Yeah, they've like doubled the Trump family net worth in one year. And so, yeah, while Trump doesn't have direct access over that, his. His kids do and Kushner does. And like, all of. They're still, you know, his son, Don Jr. Just got, what, a 620 billion dollar drone contract for his drone company for the United States military. So this stuff is. And again, I'm not here just to, like, beat up on the Trump family for what they're doing. This stuff is always happening. Politicians are always doing this. Like, and, and even companies that they own, if, even if they don't own, they may be invested in. Right. In the stock market, which is a lot of that. Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

It happens on both sides.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Just natural human greed, I think.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah. It's. It's just crazy when it gets in the trillions and the billions and. Yeah, you know, we're out here paying 50 tax, and I feel like I'm living paycheck to paycheck these days, honestly, like, it's crazy.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Well, and, you know, and you think about, especially with like, the Military industrial complex. It's such big money. I mean, we would go out even on combat operations, you know, just my 12 man team, you know, we would go out, I don't know how many, you know, get in a big gunfight and drop $10 million worth of ordinance.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

In one fight?

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah, in one fight. You know what I mean? It's like, and that's just happening constant, constantly, non stop. Right? Like all of those airstrikes. These bombs are not cheap. Like a lot of these bombs, like hellfire rockets and GBU 57s and all these 500 pound bombs, everything you're seeing being used from drone strikes, this is millions and millions and millions of dollars. Wow. Every single time you're going to see this. And for example, Venezuela, which I was, I was just talking about this the other day. People don't, people were cheering on the idea of like, hey, we removed Maduro and Now we own $16 trillion in oil. It's like, no, well, no, we don't. First of all, because we removed Maduro from power, we left his regime in charge. His military still is in control of everything. We control no oil. But what did it cost for us to do that? We parked an aircraft carrier strike group off the coast of Venezuela for six months. It costs $25 million a day. No, just to park that aircraft carrier strike group off the coast. That's not inclusive of when we actually go into airstrikes, tactical operations. $25 million a day just to park that aircraft carrier strike group off the coast of Venezuela for six months. Wow. And so if you extrapolate out how much that cost the American taxpayers for six months before we ever did the operation or movement, it was, I don't know, $10 billion probably more and more. That was just parked outside. Right. Then you add in all the airstrikes, everything else that's going on, you're probably looking at $50 billion that went into securing Maduro, like holistically, like over the entire span of that. And what did we get out of it? We got supposedly $500 million in oil that's being split half and half between the United States and Venezuela. It's like, does that really, does that really make sense? Like for America first? Is that, is that really where you want your taxpayer dollars going?

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Not at all.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

What is that actually giving the American people? Even if we were to secure all that oil, what would that do for, for you and me and your viewers? Are you guys going to see any of it? Are you going to see lower gas prices? Probably not. Because in Venezuela, what we really is going on, and even the oil executive companies have come out and said is they've told Trump, like, we are not investing in Venezuelan oil. And the reason for that is, is because all of the American oil companies and conglomerates already have. Let me back up. Venezuela has heavy crude oil. Okay. And the reason why this is important is because Canada also has the next largest amount of heady oil crude, heavy crude oil. And so with the American oil conglomerates, they've already built out the trillion dollars in infrastructure for the refineries and everything they need to refine all that heavy crude in Canada. Yeah, that they don't, they don't want to spend a trillion dollars to build all that infrastructure out in a Latin American country that they don't know if it's going to be like, toppled. The government's going to topple and you're going to have a massive insurgency. And so they're not even going to be invested in Venice, Venezuela. But what they're going to do is they're going to limit all of the oil coming out of Venezuela. All the heavy crude is going to be throttled and limited so that way they can ramp up and maximize profits from the Canadian heavy crude that they already have the infrastructure built out for. And so what that means is by invading Venezuela, we're now going to stop the production and the facilitating sell of oil from Venezuela to us to Russia to China. And the Venezuelan people will be a thousand times worse off because now we've come in, we've left the Maduro regime in power, but we're also going to embargo your oil and not let the Venezuelan people sell their own resources. That way, the American oil companies that are already running all this out of Canada can throttle their profits through the region. Wow. So that's what's happening in Venezuela.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

So it wasn't an oil play then.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

It.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Because technically it doesn't make.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

It is an oil play. But the idea with the oil play is to stop the production of oil coming out of Venezuela.

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[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

So, but you also stop it going to China, you stop it going to Russia, you stop it going to Iran, while also maximizing the profits of the US Oil companies that have already built out all that infrastructure for the Canadian heavy crew. So that's really what's happening with Venezuela. And so for Americans to think like, oh, we got $13 trillion in oil in Venezuela. No, we didn't, and no, we won't, and you're not going to see lower gas prices because of that. And the Venezuelan people are not going to be liberated because of that. But the American oil companies are going to love that. Yeah. Now their profits get ramped up. So.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Interesting. What do you think the play with Iran is? It might be. We might already bomb them by the time this airs.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Iran.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah, Iran.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

So the reality is, here's what's going on with Iran, because a lot of people are like, iran's the greatest threat to the United States.

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Why?

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Because Iran says death to America. Yeah. So does. So does everybody in the Middle East. Right. It's. It's posturing. They do what they do. But Iran has no capability of striking the United States. You might hear they have ballistic missile capabilities that strike the United States. They don't. They enrich, especially when it comes to nuclear capabilities. They're enriching uranium. Uranium is super, super heavy. Typically, every a uranium nuclear bomb, you have to drop that out of a plane because it's a heavy bomb. Now does Iran have the capabilities of flying a plane to New York City to drop a bomb? No. Even to Israel? No. So the big thing with Iran is that Iran is the last hegemonic superpower in the Middle east that is a direct indirect opposition to Israel. And so if you look at all of the countries that the United States has destabilized since the global war on terror, really, this all stems back to 1997, when Israel and the United States came up with what's called the clean break strategy. The clean break strategy was essentially a strategy that we would go in and topple and destabilize seven different countries in seven years. That was in 1997. Then 9, 11 just conveniently happens a couple years later. And then right after that, Bibi Netanyahu comes to Congress in 2002. He basically pitches the clean break strategy, which also I'll explain here in a second to the US Congress, which is if we go in and we topple the governments of Iraq, Sudan, Somalia, Lebanon, Libya, and then the final one, Iran, that will basically ring democracy and freedom through the Middle East. And so what we went and did was invaded Iraq, overthrew Saddam, overthrew Gaddafi, and Libya overthrew Assad, and Syria overthrew the governments at Sudan, Somalia. And we've, we've overthrown every government or even though whether we put in a pro United States, Israel puppet, you could say, doesn't really matter. What really matters to Israel and the United States is that we destabilize the superpowers. And so we did that with Iraq. We removed Saddam, Yeah, we completely destabilized the region, basically created a massive power vacuum, leads to the rise of isis. We can, we have to fight that with Al Qaeda and Syria. So it doesn't matter necessarily that we get allied countries like would be Egypt and Jordan. Those are two countries that we basically pay off with money to keep allied with with us and Israel. But Iran is the last standing Islamic sort of superpower that is in direct contention with Israel becoming the hegemonic superpower of the Middle East.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Got it.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Israel being the only superpower that has nuclear weapons in the Middle East. As soon as Iran is toppled and at least the regime is removed, it doesn't even matter if you get Pavlovi to come in there and you have a pro American puppet. They don't care as long as they can destabilize that country as well. Then Israel and the United States now have hegemonic, hegemonic control over the entire Middle east. Which when it comes to, you know, taking oil out of the Middle east and all these different things, that's really where the United States and Israel are so interested in overthrowing the current regime of Iran is not because Iran is attacking anyone, because outside of Iran does use their sort of terrorist back proxies with Hamas and Hezbollah, things like that in Yemen, the Houthis to sort of cause problems. But for the most part, Iran is not like bombing all its neighbors.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Like we are, Israel is. But like Iran's not bombing anybody outside of Israel or when they're in conflict with Israel. So that's what I think really is what's, is what's going on with Iran is it's that final last linchpin that, that we need to topple to basically have completely destabilized the Middle East.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

It is pretty crazy seeing all the war started from 911 though.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Yeah, I mean that's still happening. Yeah. And that's been the goal. I mean, I think we've, we're supposedly leaving Iraq finally. We'll see if that actually happens. But I mean we're still, still in Iraq, still in Syria. I mean, there was just, just a couple US service members killed in Syria last month.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Geez.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

And so yeah, I mean it's, it's, it's one of those things where, and this is my big thing with like everybody says, you know, Islam is such a problem and we're, you know, importing Islam into, into the west and it's like, yeah, but why, why are we doing that? Well, because we went in and killed at least, at bare minimum, a million people, and then created a 25 million person refugee crisis in Iraq and Afghanistan and Syria and Libya and Lebanon. And then we forced that refugee crisis into Europe and the United States. And so this is where this really is. Like, you have the left wing and the right wing are all part of the same bird.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

As you have the right wing neocons that go in, destabilize these countries, create war, create the refugee crisis. And then you have the left wing who says, bring all the refugees in. We need to take care of these people. And so we've. We've basically artificially created this refugee crisis in Europe, in the United States, ourselves. Like nobody else created this but us.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah. So crazy, man. Well, Nate, it's been great having you on. Where can people watch your show and Support you?

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Valhalla. VFT on YouTube and Instagram. Instagram. And that's what we got.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Check them out, guys. Thanks for your time, man.

[Nate (Retired Green Beret, YouTuber)]

Good to meet you, brother.

[Podcast Host / Interviewer]

Yeah, good to meet you. See you guys.

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