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Jake Shields
It's being so heavily pushed the gay and trans things that a lot of people, people don't realize there's a lot more young girls are saying they're trans than boys. So they're going through this uncomfortable period through, you know, I don't know a boy, I can't relate but I still went through the uncomfortable through puberty. But I guess girls really hits them hard when they, you know, start developing and stuff and that's when a lot of these girls are switching over. They're having a hard time fitting in, finding identity foreign.
Co-host
Guys. Jake Shields is back man. A lot of drama lately.
Jake Shields
Yeah, it's been, been a busy, exciting week. All kinds of stuff going on.
Co-host
Geez, I know you.
Jake Shields
Thanks for having me back too.
Co-host
Yeah. Now I want to start with the Bryce Mitchell stuff because you had all those guys on your show individually, right?
Jake Shields
Yeah, well Bryce and Rampage, they're both friends of mine and I'm also friends with Bear the the other co host of the Rampage. So that was, you know I got to wear this product. I like, I like all those guys a lot but I saw that some clips in the interview and I really didn't like it. It really bad with me, you know. So I first I think I called up Bryce. I was like man that sucks when they talk to you like why? And Bryce is great guy like you know. No, they're great people. They treated me with respect. I'm like okay, that's good, you know.
Co-host
Yeah.
Jake Shields
Because Bryce's situation where whether you agree or don't agree with what he said, he can't really defend himself right now. So it's just not fair to sit there and, like, berate someone when they're already down. But I have tremendous respect for Rampage. Friend of mine had him on my show, you know, so I text him. I'm not going to share any private conversations, but we had a little conversation. I think publicly, he, you know, he doesn't really care what Bryce says. He had some prep. He was pressured by someone to treat him like that. And, you know, Bryce needs to understand, you know, who he might be working for later. But Rampage, great dude. And then Bear, also a guy I like, but I thought he did a terrible job handling it. You know, Bear actually called me after I talked to Rampage, kind of freaking out, and I'm like, bear, if you want my honest opinion, you look like an absolute. You look terrible. You know, you look, like, so fake and authentic. Like, you might not agree with what Bryce said, but in the scheme of things, you don't really care that much. You ran into him a bar. You want to treat him that way, you'd still go talk to him. A person person. So you should have either canceled or not braided them like that. You know, I. I understand your perspective you're coming from, you know, and he agreed. You know, like I said, I don't think he's a bad guy. So learning experience, I goes, what you should do is I would immediately, you know, delete the episode, call and apologize to Bryce, and then apologize publicly. Yeah, so he did delete the episode. I'm not sure if he called Bryce. I don't think there's no public apology. But again, you know, I think a lot of people are just bashing that guy. And people need to realize the world's complex. You know, I think he did a terrible job, but he's not a bad guy. It's like a learning experience experience, you know, and he did realize he up.
Co-host
Yeah.
Jake Shields
And same with Rampage. People are giv. Same with Bryce. All these guys, people are giving him, like, Rampage, you know, people need to make money. They have kids to feed. And people are calling Bryce a coward for not defending himself. But it's like he has tremendous respect from Rampage, one of the guys he watched as a kid. So he's in a tricky situation. You know, he has. He has a new kid he has to feed. So it's. The whole episode was a complete show. It was Taken down, you know, but again, it's three people that weren't bad people. Just sometimes things turn shitty.
Co-host
Yeah. Bryce took down his episode too, right? That was his first episode that started.
Jake Shields
All that was the first ever imagine starting off first episode of his podcast. Oh my God, that is so funny. Like, you know, Bryce is just. Is a good, good dude. And like, you know, this whole Hitler thing. Yeah, it sounds absurd, but people need to understand where that's coming from. That's not coming out of nowhere. You know, in the last 18 months, people have watched, you know, Gaza just be completely bombed, slaughtered. They've seen Israelis like, you know, celebrating, laughing at kids with arms blown off. They do like boat tours that you can go and watch them get bombed.
Co-host
Are you serious?
Jake Shields
There's literally a boat. You can, you can look this up. I don't know where you look it up at, but it's just a real thing where they have these boat tours. Well, not now, cuz it's ended. Where they'd go out at night and you could watch Gaza being bombed and they take their kids and stuff.
Co-host
And they were charging people to do.
Jake Shields
Yeah. And they take their kids. It's like a family outing. And like drinking beers on the boat thing. Like. Yeah, crazy. There was like. Did you see like they got caught? Separate subject, but they were. The IDF was gang raping prisoners in the torture centers and they got caught.
Co-host
Wow.
Jake Shields
So they made some arrest just for PR thing. The people there rioted, got the gang rapists out of prison, you know, and then if one of the guys went on TV and did like a tour talking about it, politicians were defending raping people. So they're doing the. That we were told the Nazis did. And then we see them lying like 40 beheaded babies. Mass raves, all debunk debunks. So people see that. And then, you know, Hitler was 80 years ago. We don't know what's true, what's not. Rube true. But it's making people question it. And these guys are doing what they said they do, so it's not coming out of a vacuum. You know, the truth is awesome, complicated. So it's. There's a reason why things are changing. And I'm not sitting there saying Hitler's a good guy, that's at all. I'm just saying people need to understand where this shit's coming from. It's not coming out of thin air.
Co-host
And then a few days after Bryce's incident, Kanye just popped off about it. I mean, that was so nuts.
Jake Shields
That was Kanye is an artist. People need to realize, you know, and I think this was a well calculated thought out, like performance art. I don't think this is him going insane. This is, you know, exactly what he's doing. He came out of nowhere right before the Super Bowl. Just tweet after tweet after tweet, after tweet puts a commercial on the Super Bowl. I think, what, $5 million?
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Jake Shields
There's on an iPhone. Terrible commercial. Yeezy.com strips the four down and puts swastika shirts. Absolutely insane. You know, but this is, you know, not random. This is thought out, plan calculated. He knows how to just take the tension, suck it up all for himself. And he also, most importantly, knows when to walk away because if he stayed here, people would get sick of him. Look, two years ago when he popped out, went on his thing, it was the same thing. This, this, this pushing, you know, maybe a little too extreme, but he's pushing some, some real issues. And he's coming from an emotional standpoint. He doesn't know all the points, but he's, he feels he's an artist. So he's been screwed over by multiple, you know, Jewish people in the record industry. And he doesn't say he hates all Jewish people. He's just pointing out who did it. And you know, of course I'm not going to say the swastika things I agree with, but it's pushing the Overton window. It's pushing what the boundaries acceptable are. It's making these, it's making people open up and have these conversations of maybe the, maybe the story of World War II is not exactly how we told it was. That doesn't mean guys are good. Maybe it's a little more of a. From a young age it was taught black, this most evil person ever. This is, you know, this was good versus evil. And the truth of the matter is maybe a little more gray area mixed in there.
Co-host
Well, overall, philosophy wise, I don't believe in good and evil. I don't believe it's just good and evil. I think everyone has both.
Jake Shields
Yeah, no, it's true. Some people definitely lean a lot more towards the evil and towards the better. So I'm not going to say all people are equal with their good and evil, but. But I think even evil people can do great things. You know, whether Hitler was or wasn't evil. One thing about him, he was a huge animal lover. He was a vegetarian. He was the first person, first country in the world to push massive animal rights rights things, you know, so he's obviously have some, some good aspects about him. So even most bad people can have, have good aspects.
Co-host
I didn't know he was a vegetarian.
Jake Shields
Yeah, huge animal rights advocate and everything was trying to push vegetarianism. And, and that's. So it starts. People get blurred with what's true versus what's lies and propaganda because there's the famous saying, winners write history, right? And he was written to be the most evil person that ever lived. And people are starting to question that. Like we have like Mal and Stalin, both communists. You know, allegedly Mao killed 50 million, Stalin 20 million. It's, it's. People can like praise these people and not get ostracized from society. But if you say anything about Hitler, you're ostracized. So like people trying to be like, well, why can I praise this guy but not that guy? And I don't think anyone should praise Mao or Stalin. But I'm not going to like sit there and lecture someone who does. You know, I had a guy on my show, a communist who was like, pro Stalin. I disagreed with him, think he's probably wrong, but in his mind, he doesn't believe Stalin did those atrocities. So I'm not going to sit there and berate him, call him a bad person for what he believes. And we should be able to have these conversations. People should be able to challenge and be like, maybe Stalin, maybe some of it was exaggerated, maybe some of Miles was exaggerated. Now I'm not making the argument it was, but we don't really know the truth about history. And you can, and you can debate every other genocide except one. And that's Just what people I think are getting fed up with.
Co-host
I could see that. Did you see Shopify took down Kanye's store yesterday?
Jake Shields
Yeah. Disappointing, you know, because it's like free speech. You know, I know that's the extreme end, but people decide what shirts they wear, including, like, you got to let go of the past at some point. You know, that. That Swaska sign originally was like, I think, a Navajo sign. It's still used. I think a Buddha sign as well. Like, if you go in Asia, you'll see it all over the place. So you definitely go. And also, like, the whole lifting your arm a certain way means you're Nazi.
Co-host
It's like, come on, they did that with Elon.
IRS Representative
Yeah.
Jake Shields
It's like, you got to realize, you know, this 80 years ago, you can't say you can't lift your arm a certain way. You can't have this sign. It's just time to, like, let go of the past. People don't hold. There's no other dictators that they hold their signs forever. And it just shows you the same people run Hollywood, the media, they came in with this barrage and just pushed this. It's the one thing you can't question. And I think it's that people are just fed up. And I think it's the boomers versus the zoomers. A lot of these people, they haven't caught up realizing we're not living in the same world as 18. A lot's change in 18 months. You know, Israel has really shocked the world with their brutality. And a lot of young people are seeing it on Twitter, Instagram, Tik Tok, these things. So they're seeing the. That these necessarily aren't the good guys. But it's tricky because, you know, you don't want to lump in to Jews or the bad guys either, because it's a whole group. These are, like, hard, tricky, complex, you know, topics and discussions to have, but they need to be had.
Co-host
Absolutely. You confident in Trump that'll put an end to that war?
Jake Shields
No.
Co-host
Really?
Jake Shields
Not. Not really. I think He's. He took $100 million from Miriam Alderson, which is. She was an ex IDF soldier, you know, Israeli citizen, gave him $100 million. I don't know how this is legal, but. Plus tons of money from apac. I think he's definitely, you know, Netanyahu seems to have a lot of power over him. So he came to the White House, Trump went and pulled out Netanyahu's chair for him, gave him the key to the White House. Netanyahu gave him a pager in return, which to me kind of seemed like a sign of we'll kill you if you get out of line.
Co-host
Damn.
Jake Shields
That's how I would take, you know, an Israeli person handed me a pager, what after the attacks they did and say, you know, Trump was literally pulling his chair out. Like, I don't know. I don't pull out chairs for other men unless it's like a grandpa or something person I have a ton of respect for. And I think the fact that he was pulling ass chair pushing it in for him, it shows I don't know what's going on with that. Which is unfortunate because I like Trump.
Co-host
You know, I wonder if he does that with other presidents and other leaders.
Jake Shields
Good question. I don't think he does, but that's actually a great question. Someone should go back and yeah, we'd.
Co-host
Have to find out because maybe it's just like a polite thing to do.
Jake Shields
Because I think people would have came up with a video showing it because he got mocked heavily on Twitter for it. But I can't say with absolute 100% certainty that he never has.
Co-host
Did you see Aiden Ross ask Vivek about APOC when Vivek came on a stream?
Jake Shields
I did. I can't remember exactly what he said. I saw the clip real quick.
Co-host
He kind of gave a political answer, you know.
Jake Shields
Yeah, no, APAC's a huge problem. It's not just a pack, but this, it's. Israel is the only foreign lobby that doesn't have to register. Foreign lobby, which is weird because it's literally a law about it. You know, JFK was actually trying to change this right when he got shot. The head of the IDF happened to be in Dallas right then, you know.
Co-host
Yeah.
Jake Shields
So that, you know, APAC is a huge problem. They foreign countries manipulating our democracy and they donate to both sides, the Democrats and the Republicans. It's like whoever, it doesn't really matter who wins. We're giving billions of dollars to Israel every year and they give us nothing in return. Not a single nuts. They're our top spy threat. They've attacked our ships and killed our military. They've, you know, this stage, false flag operations, the Levon Fair, if you could look up. It's like they don't offer anything in return. It's like all one way relationship.
Co-host
Do you think that will change Because Elon announced recently he's going to start investigating politicians that have deep pockets. Did you see that?
Jake Shields
Yeah, I don't think it's going to Change under Trump and Elon.
Co-host
Really?
Jake Shields
Yeah. Because Elon initially he said some negative. A few negative Israeli things about them slaughtering kids. And then something happened where he kind of went out, he apologized, he flew to Israel, got walked around and berated by Benjamin Netanyahu. Then he flew to Auschwitz, got a walking tour.
Co-host
Really?
Jake Shields
With Ben Shapiro.
Co-host
Wow.
Jake Shields
I don't think he believes it, but something happened to make him suck up to these people. Some. Probably some big government contract, you know.
Co-host
That's crazy. That's weird though, because someone like that, you think can't be bought off because he's got so much money.
Jake Shields
Yeah, it could be that. I mean, could be blackmail too. Israel runs massive blackmail operations. Epstein was a Israeli blackmail that was.
Co-host
Tied back to Israel.
Jake Shields
Yeah. Every aspect of that ties directly back to.
Co-host
Holy crap. I didn't know that.
Jake Shields
I know. Because the media doesn't cover it.
Co-host
Wow.
Jake Shields
Yeah. So they'll say, oh, it was a. It was a blackmail operation. But they never say for who, every step of it.
Co-host
Do you think Diddy had a potential tie there too?
Jake Shields
I think sounds crazy. Most likely. You look at his producer. I think was it. I'm getting to make sure. Not mix it. I think Clive Davis is his. Because they're all the producers of hip hop are all big Jewish moguls. You know, this way it gets tricky. It's not all Jewish people. It's a very small group of like the elites that are manipulating things.
Co-host
Yeah.
Jake Shields
Comes tricky conversations. So it's like, okay, but all the, all the record, all the hip hop industries, pretty much all Jews running it. They're the ones that push the gangster hip hop nwa bringing the N word back to popular, pushing black people to kill each other, making it cool.
Co-host
Yeah. I just saw you talk about this. You had a black nationalist on your show.
Jake Shields
He was extremely interesting. Yeah.
Co-host
Yeah. You two got along though.
Jake Shields
Yeah. You know, like he's always respects me. I don't care if he likes white people, you know, he doesn't have to like white people. If he treats me with respect. That's it. You don't. I don't have to agree with people on things. He treats me with respect, you know, like, I don't care if he dislikes white people. He treated me good and he had lots of. Lots of interesting. I'm open minded to listen. So, like, I'm hearing sides of the black side of things and black history and he has so many, so many great insights.
Co-host
Yeah.
Jake Shields
I'm willing to talk to people with different opinions as long as they're play and willing to have, like, a real conversation, not, like, a slimy, like, Weasley. Like, Destiny that's just gonna. Is not sharing their real opinions.
Co-host
Destiny's been going through some stuff, man.
Jake Shields
He has some bad stuff. He's accused of all, like, wiretapping his place, like, with girls who you have, like, wiretapped and filming their conversations.
Co-host
What?
Jake Shields
I think sharing naked pictures of girls that he'd had, like, sending to other people. And, like. Yeah, he has some serious allegations.
Co-host
Damn, that's not good. He always gets canceled and bounces back. He's one of those guys you can't really.
Jake Shields
Yeah. But he's. I could just feel the energy. The dude is a slime ball just being around him. I was gonna go on his show, and I'm glad I decided not to. I'm like, you know what? This guy's giving me creepy energy with him. Then I. I sent him to the Hodge twins, and I feel bad about that. And he got good numbers. Like. Yeah, that was our worst.
Co-host
I mean, you can't deny that he gets numbers.
Jake Shields
Yeah. But they were like. It was a terrible interview. He was so slimy. Not being honest. Damn. I just like having honest conversations. I should probably start debating more and stuff. But it's like, you're not being real. You're trying to, like, win a conversation. You're trying to win an argument at all means you're not trying to find the truth. I like talking to people trying to find the truth. Like, talking to. Like I said, I'll talk to a communist, even though I disagree with it. I'll talk to a Nazi. You know I disagree with it.
Co-host
Yeah.
Jake Shields
That's the thing. I've had, like, a white nationalist on, and people start, like, yelling, nazi. I just had a black nationalist on. It's literally the exact opposite. Clearly, I'm not a black nationalist. I just kind of enjoy talking to extreme personalities, trying to understand them, hear their perspectives.
Co-host
There's ways to debate intellectually. I think on Piers Morgan, it's just for show.
Jake Shields
Yeah.
Co-host
There's not really much productivity on that.
Jake Shields
Yeah. Because you're not, like, actually trying to understand each other.
Co-host
No. You're trying to go at each other.
Jake Shields
Yeah. You're just trying to win. By all means.
Co-host
And you only have, like, 20 seconds to talk.
Jake Shields
Yeah.
Co-host
That's really tough because there's, like, five people on it.
Jake Shields
Yeah. At least I'm gonna do a debate, or at least need, like, an hour so you can try to, like, really understand each other.
Co-host
Yeah. Does the new executive order Trump signed around anti Semitism scare you at all?
Jake Shields
It's really concerning. Yeah. Because like, we have a free speech to criticize everyone equally. And then anti Semitism, it has no clear definition. It's just. It's not hating Jews. That's not the definition of anti Semitism. The definition is being critical of Israel. It's talking about Jewish control. Like me pointing out that all the record labels are mostly, you know, Jewish. The Hollywood, the media companies. Pointing this out is considered anti Semitic. Even though it's true.
Co-host
Yeah.
Jake Shields
You know, saying Israel controls America, you know, like saying bad things about Israel is considered anti Semitic. So when they can pass an executive order saying you can't criticize a certain group or country. That's insane.
Co-host
Yeah. I think you should be able to speak facts. You know what I mean? If you're giving data and numbers.
Jake Shields
No, exactly. But then it could even include that. I think you should even be able to say hateful things. That's the First Amendment. Like, I don't have to. You know, people don't have to. Like white people. Someone should be able to say, I don't like white people. White people are shit white. They do say this all the time. White supremacy. White Cause pauses this. And they should be able to even. I don't agree with it. You know, people are racist against black people, which I don't agree with. But they. It's in our Constitution.
Co-host
Yeah.
Jake Shields
They're taking this one group and saying, you can't criticize this group. And it goes beyond that because there's no. It's not even saying you can't dislike this group, saying their whole country. We're talking about their control. And that kind of proves the point of they have separate rules. They have like, I don't know the exact number. I think about 30 states. You can't. Boy, if you're working in government, you're not legally allowed to boycott Israel or Israeli goods.
Co-host
Whoa.
Jake Shields
There's no other country that has this. You can boycott America, Other states, but you have to sign this petition, work for the government. So you can't boycott Israel. Why? Like, how does this beneficial to America?
Co-host
That's interesting.
Jake Shields
Yeah, we give them all these weapons. Trump's talking about ethnically cleansing Palestine to give to is to Israel. That's insane. Like, imagine if Trump was talking about ethnically cleansing Mexico. Like, everyone. What the you talking about?
Co-host
It's just nuts because Kanye went hard and that was after the order was signed. So I wonder if he's going to be the first one they go after.
Jake Shields
It's going to be very tricky to uphold because the First Amendment, that's what's great about America. The Supreme Court has to go along with it, and I'd be shocked if they do, because it's very clear we have the right to criticize, even hateful speech. Yeah, but criticizing Israel isn't hateful. You know, I think it's hateful than bombing children.
Co-host
That's a good point. Yeah. Still got to get through a lot of hurdles, right?
Jake Shields
Yeah. I mean, things are complicated in America. Good. And a bad thing. There's the huge, you know, the checks and balances, the Congress, the president, Supreme Court. So you can't. President can't come in and just totally change things.
Co-host
Yeah.
Jake Shields
I think it might have passed Congress, though, which kind of.
Co-host
Oh, it did.
Jake Shields
Wow. That they move fast for Israel.
Co-host
Yeah.
Jake Shields
The first thing when the Johnson was put in charge was the House. First thing he did was go and pass money to give money to Israel.
Co-host
Wow. Mike Johnson.
Jake Shields
Yeah.
Co-host
Damn, that guy gets a ton of hate. I can't believe he's still around.
Jake Shields
He deserves the hate. Yeah, he's terrible.
Co-host
He was getting hate when we were at AM Fest. I think he signed. I forget what happened, but he didn't even show face at that event.
IRS Representative
Yeah.
Jake Shields
He's clearly just like a weasel, you know?
Co-host
Yeah. It makes you wonder how many of these guys are paid off in Congress.
Jake Shields
A lot.
Co-host
You think It's a lot.
Jake Shields
A lot and a lot by Israel. But there's other factors too. There's pharmaceutical companies.
Co-host
Yeah. Bernie Sanders.
Jake Shields
Yep. That's crazy.
Co-host
Pharmaceutical.
Jake Shields
That's wild that. He's like one of the biggest.
Co-host
Yeah. Super ironic, this.
Jake Shields
And they give him like. I think it was the highest. Him and Elizabeth Warren, I think were the two highest paid people. So hypocritical.
Co-host
And they were calling out RFK for trying to like make everyone healthy.
Jake Shields
Oh, and RFK is great for. For America. Again, I don't like his chance in Israel, but he's great for the. For the medicine. And again, I'm not anti pharmaceuticals, but we way over prescribe them and lots of times they can be damaging. Oh, yeah, it's all about making money. But the healthcare system should be about finding the root of the cause. Instead, they just want to give you pharmaceuticals and keep you a customer for.
Co-host
Life because you make way more money.
Jake Shields
Exactly.
Co-host
I'm sure you got offered painkillers when you were fighting, right?
Jake Shields
Oh, yeah. Painkillers. Docked surgeries. I've had zero surgeries, but oh, wow. Every time I go to Doctor, they try to give me a surgery that's.
Co-host
Rare for a fighter not to have any. Right.
Jake Shields
They don't listen. Yeah, it is because I don't listen to the doctors.
Co-host
You know, Geez. You probably had some nasty injuries, I would imagine.
Jake Shields
Yeah. Completely torn. My acl, which you're not supposed to be able to recover without a surgery. And I'm fine.
Co-host
Damn.
Jake Shields
So three doctors told me no way it could recover. It was a bad injury. It took me like six months of rehabbing it, but the rehab from the surgery was a nine month recovery. So it's like.
Co-host
So it's actually more. It takes longer to recover if you get the surgery. Basically.
Jake Shields
Yeah. It's tricky because I'm not going to say all surgeries are bad, but I think, you know, probably 70, 80 do more harm when they, when they cut open you up and cut inside of you. You're yourself up a lot of times.
Co-host
Yeah. Damages you.
Jake Shields
Well, look at people that have like knee surgeries. They often get them again. It's rare that someone has one surgery especially.
Co-host
Same with back.
Jake Shields
No, like all these surgeries. Yeah. Back shoulder people get three and four surgeries. So clearly the surgery is not fixing the problem. Most cases, there's exceptions.
Co-host
Yeah. You've always been pretty holistic. I know you're vegetarian, right?
Jake Shields
Yeah, vegetarian, yeah. I've been a lifelong vegetarian, you know, for multiple reasons. Feel healthy this way, but also like animals a lot. I think factory farming is like disgusting.
Co-host
Disgusting. I'm not a fan of slaughter.
Jake Shields
Most slaughterhouses, people turned a blind eye to it because they don't want to see what's going on. It's like I don't prefer hunting but that's so much more humane and stuff than they need to pass some laws where they can have the cows a little more free range. They're just like stuffed in together. The pigs are stuffed in where they can't move. They take them, take them at birth. The slaughter methods, it needs some improvement, but it's an uncomfortable conversation. Most people agree that it's, you know, unless you have no empathy towards animals, you degree it's disgusting. But they just don't want to talk.
Co-host
About it because they're not exposed to it, I think. And if you try to like expose it on media, they'll censor it.
Jake Shields
Yeah, I think it's actually a felony if you work those places and you film inside the.
Co-host
Yeah, I had a guest do that and she's on angle monitor, everything.
Jake Shields
I'll get the information.
Co-host
Yeah, I think she might even Be in jail now, honestly.
Jake Shields
Wow.
Co-host
She went to Purdue, I believe. The chicken one.
Jake Shields
Yeah. I don't know anything about that story, but. But you're not. It's. I know it's super illegal if you work these places to film what they're doing to the animals.
Co-host
She didn't even work there. She was trespassing. But she got some videos and. Yeah, yeah, screwed.
Jake Shields
They don't want people to see what's going on there. That just shows you it's not, you know, if you. If you do it. The problem is it's more expensive to buy the way more.
Co-host
It's like triple the price.
Jake Shields
But, yeah, anyone that has money, you know, should definitely do that.
Co-host
Yeah.
Jake Shields
More humane stuff into your bodies and your kids and. But it's tough with the economy right now. I understand people are struggling. Like. Like, I'm doing well. And I'll look at the prices sometimes the grocery store, and I'm like, what the hell?
Co-host
Crazy, right?
Jake Shields
I gotta think, do I want to buy this? So what if. Pay people, you know, if you have three, four kids to feed, it's tough.
Co-host
I'm dropping hundreds every time I go to the groceries now.
Jake Shields
That's insane.
Co-host
And I don't have kids yet.
Jake Shields
No, like. And we're like, we're getting comfortable. We look at it and go like, what the. So imagine people barely getting guy. If a couple kids. If you have like one income, it's like. So I do understand why people get frustrated out there.
Co-host
Yeah. I mean, that was a big selling point with the past election.
Jake Shields
That was the biggest one for Trump. And it's like, I do think he's for inflation, but I don't think he's as good as people think. I think he also. He printed and overspent a lot. Just like. Just like Biden. And overspending is the biggest. And problem inflation, because it causes that. To print more money.
Co-host
Yeah.
Jake Shields
People don't understand. It's like, it's not just the taxes. It's when. It's when they print more money. More money in circulation that directly causes inflation. Everyone acts all dumb like, oh, we don't know why things are inflated. It's like, we know exactly why. It's because we're printing more money.
Co-host
They slowed it down, though, right?
Jake Shields
It slowed down right now.
Co-host
Thank God, man. Because I saw some crazy thing where like a million dollars 100 years ago is worth like 40k.
Jake Shields
I think. I think like 100 years ago. I think it's even more. I think like 20,000 be more. More than A million today or like.
Co-host
Yeah, it's crazy. Something stupid.
Jake Shields
Yeah. Since like, the Federal Reserve was. Since the Federal Reserve was created in 1913.
Co-host
Yeah.
Jake Shields
That's when they started to inflate money.
IRS Representative
Yeah.
Jake Shields
I think it was somewhere around, like, $20,000 would be worth a million equivalent.
Co-host
It basically showed me, like, saving money is stupid.
Jake Shields
Yeah, 90% of the money. Yeah. You have to invest. So if you're sitting money sitting in cash, you're, like, losing money.
Co-host
It's like the worst investment just to hold cash.
IRS Representative
Yeah.
Jake Shields
And it sucks sometimes. You don't know anything about investment. You don't know, like, when I first started making money as a fighter, I didn't know do my money. So I was just sitting there losing. You know, a lot of people don't think they know. They don't know what to buy. So it's complicated.
Co-host
Yeah. Did you figure out a good system for investing, though?
Jake Shields
Yeah, I do now. You know, I put it different places. Like, I, you know, I don't give people investing advice. Like, I buy individual stocks.
Co-host
But you got Derek Moneyburg in your corner, right?
Jake Shields
Yeah, he actually helps me out quite a bit. I do some stuff my own, but, yeah, money work helps me.
Co-host
Who is Jewish guys, by the way?
Jake Shields
No, that's Jews. Like, I work with Derek Moneyburg. Like, he's like, one of my really good friends. You know, we worked together for years. We're super close, and people are like, you hate Jews. I'm like, well, look how, like, loyal like this guy has been to me, and I'm to him. So that's why I got to be very clear, is tricky. And the Jews are good with money.
Co-host
Yeah.
Jake Shields
No, but the investing is hard. People don't know if you could buy in stocks. That's why I tell them just, like, you can buy the s and P500, and it'll just kind of follow the. The trend of that. It's probably better than picking individual stocks unless you know what you're doing.
Co-host
Yeah. I mean, yeah. I personally love working with Jewish people in business.
Jake Shields
Yeah, I know. It's.
Co-host
They know business well. They know money well. Like, they're solid.
Jake Shields
You know, Like, I. I say it joking, but also, you know, kind of true. Like, oh, yeah, I have Jewish friends, my counting down, my attorneys.
Co-host
No, Jewish and Asian people are great at, like, money saving money, making money.
Jake Shields
Yeah, I know. Asians are great at saving, making money, too. That's true.
Co-host
I think Indian Americans, on average, are the wealthiest in America.
Jake Shields
This kind of people don't like this because it Kind of spins the white supremacy narrative on the head of like, white. You know what they're. It's not being pushed anymore, but a few years ago, it's being pushed so heavily white people bad. That's why they kind of hated Asians, because Asians and Indians are outperforming white people. Even like people from like, Kenya and these. These countries that are black that come in, they out earn white Americans. So it kind of spins the whole, wow. Racism is the cause of people making less. And obviously, again, like anything, it's. It's complex because these people have came from. From a tougher position, but it's currently. It's not the racism that's holding them back. So maybe it comes from a long history of racism, but it's not the current issue.
Co-host
Yeah. Did you deal with a lot of racism growing up?
Jake Shields
No. I grew up in an area that was mostly white, Native American, little Mexicans. There was no. No real racist issues. And I think the time was a little less racism. I grew up too, because there was a few black kids at my school. They were treated totally normal. You know, there's a funny situation. I was thinking back when BLM was hitting, you know, everyone was going crazy. One of the black guys I saw post on Facebook he something like, I never felt racism at the school. I was always treated as one of the guys. And all white girls are on there trying to tell him, like, you are racist. They just, you know, and it's like, dude, he's literally telling you he was treated like one of the guys. He never felt like he was treated differently. And it's like the course is not to say racism didn't exist. Of course it does. But as a whole, it didn't seem like in my time period and growing up, probably one of the least racist time periods ever, everyone was getting along great. They'd make jokes and stuff sometimes. But then it got re pushed with BLM and all that to kind of Reese reset.
Co-host
Yeah. Yeah. Back then, you could say the R word. You could say like, you know, gay.
Jake Shields
Yeah. But people like. Well, that's the thing too. Yeah. Like, the funny thing is like, you know, for f calling people, I don't have to blink that, but like, we'd call each other that, but there was a guy that we knew was gay at school, and no one would call him that. Like, we didn't, like, pick on him because we knew he was actually gay. And so people need to understand we use these words not to, like, actually make fun of gay people and retard we're not actually making fun of people with down syndrome. It's like way people talk. People get too sensitive with it. And I'm not saying I can't understand a little bit. Like, if you had a kid, you or downstream kid, you'd probably not like hearing that word. But it's not how people mean to use the word.
Co-host
Yeah, I see on social media people are like. They're basically saying, like, you know how they say there's more gay people now? Basically, they're saying that they're more open to admitting it these days. Do you agree with that?
Jake Shields
It's a little bit of. But I think it's actually. I think it's heavily pushed on the kids. I think they're. Because, you know, my daughter went to Marin High School, one of the most liberal high schools ever. And it's being so heavily pushed, the gay and trans things, that a lot of people, People don't realize there's a lot more young girls are saying they're trans and boys. So they're going through this uncomfortable period through, you know, I don't know, I'm a boy. I can't relate. But I still went through the uncomfortable through puberty. But I guess girls really hit some hard when they, you know, start developing and stuff. And that's when a lot of these girls are switching over, having a hard time fitting in, finding identity. Yeah.
Co-host
So with all the inflation going on, are you investing in anything right now?
Jake Shields
Oh, yeah. You have to be investing, otherwise your money is losing worth and it'll be worth not. You know, since last 100 years, dollars lost 98% of its value. But you got to be careful with investing. I don't like to give people investing advice. You know, I work with like Derek Moneyburg, which, you know, a Jew, Jews. But he's. He's helped me quite a bit with investing and stuff. And it's for people who don't know, though I don't like to give advice. I'll just say if you're going to buy stocks, just buy the s and P500 because typically it goes up. So it's better than buying individual stocks unless you really know what you're doing. A lot of financial advisors, they're trying to buy what's trendy. When something's trendy, you probably already missed the wave. You got to get stuff early. So you're buying individual stocks is really tricky. Sometimes buying stuff is out of. It's not popular too, is what you want to do. But you have to make sure. You're really doing the research. You know, that's why I'm lucky to have a guy that I can discuss this with. So you better really be paying attention. It's also psychology is sometimes in investing too. It's like following. Not necessarily. If the company's good, it's what you think's right. Tesla's a good example. You know, I was buying Tesla when all my friends were shorting it because they were looking at the financials saying it didn't make sense. But I was thinking, okay, it's a good product. Elon Musk. I was thinking it was going to keep going up. And, you know, my friends were shorting it and they all lost a ton of money. I made money on it. The psychology of it, you have to factor in. So, yeah, investing is tricky. And then you add in companies like BlackRock. They're buying up the number one. Them and Vanguard, they're the top buyers of almost every stock. So they could completely crash the market if they want. They're also the top buyer of. Top buyer of bitcoin now, I believe. And even scarier that no one hardly knows, talking about they should be a big, big deal is they're buying up houses like crazy, driving up real estate markets. That's part of the reason why the real estate markets are spiking. And then they're renting them. The more houses that they buy, the more they'll drive the market up and the more they can raise rent, it'll be, you know, they have that, that quote, you'll own nothing and be happy. That's what they actually want. Yeah, I think they need to pass laws banning that. You know, the fact that you can. These giant corporations can buy up all our homes and then the family can't afford a home. It's ridiculous.
Co-host
So you think companies like BlackRock and Vanguard should be banned from buying houses?
Jake Shields
I know that's controversial, but absolutely. You know, you can't let. These are buying thousands of homes at a time and they can come in and bid over the asking price and drive out. You know, families are trying to buy a home, family jobs are struggling, saving up, trying to get money for down payment. They can just come in and offer 20% over. It doesn't matter to them. Yeah, they're looking at the long game. So they can come in to swoop up thousands of houses and artificial drive the market up.
Co-host
Yeah. And also psychologically, I used to rent a lot. There's a lot of fear when you're renting because you're like, oh, I might get kicked out. They might get a new owner, a new occupant, you know, so it's not a good way to really live, in my opinion.
Jake Shields
Yeah, I know it depends. Especially well if we have. Once you have a family, you know, no single, you know, moving around stuff wasn't really a big deal. Hopping around, so it wasn't a big deal. But yeah, when you have a family and stuff, it's stressful.
Co-host
It's super stressful, man.
Jake Shields
People need to look though, before buying real estate to really look at the other side of it. It's just like a lot of upkeep. There's extra cost. You still have to pay. You don't really own the home. You have to pay property taxes.
Co-host
Right.
Jake Shields
To me, property taxes is the biggest scam ever. I bought this home and they're saying I still have to pay on it. I had a friend's mom who actually, I think it was in like New York or something where they drove the prop taxes up on a property. She had to sell her home because she couldn't afford to pay the taxes. That's just wrong.
Co-host
And that tax is supposed to be used in the city, right?
Jake Shields
Yeah, I don't know.
Co-host
Who knows? I believe so There needs to be a better way to track how they're spending that.
Jake Shields
Yeah, I don't think if you own a home, you have to pay. That's my opinion.
Co-host
Yeah.
Jake Shields
People don't realize too though. When you buy a home, typically you get a 30 year mortgage. That means if you can't make the payment, the bank takes it back. So I am pro real estate, but I think people need to look at the cons too, instead of just buy, buy, buy. They can bite you in the ass. And you know, I have a couple rental properties. It's a headache. You know, I had to get a company to manage it. Like trying to manage homes, people calling a clogged toilet or something. It's. People don't think about all these factors.
Co-host
Yeah, it's a lot of work. So the first time you came on the show, you called out Ben Shapiro. Since then, Brett Cooper has left his company and now getting more views than him. Have you seen that?
Jake Shields
That's awesome. I keep hearing the name Brett Cooper. I honestly don't know who she is.
Co-host
Oh, really?
Jake Shields
I didn't know she' than b. That's awesome.
Co-host
Well, Candace is getting more views than him too.
Jake Shields
Candace is crushing it. They fired her and I think she's. Someone said she has like more subscribers in the Entire Daily Wire. She's just. She's bigger than the whole Daily Wire now. That shows you, too, though. The one thing you can't criticize was Israel. You can criticize America on the Daily Wire, but as soon as you criticize Israel, fired.
Co-host
Right.
Jake Shields
I'm not sure of the Brett Cooper. I don't know who she is, what she says, and why she was let go, but it seems a little suspicious as well.
Co-host
Yeah. It's going to be interesting to see if they change the way they operate.
Jake Shields
It's gonna be hard. I think they're kind of formed to support Israel. I think that's the whole purpose of the Daily Wire. I think they're a dying breed. These are. Things are changing and changing fast. As you can see, the Daily Wire is not that popular anymore.
Co-host
Yeah.
Jake Shields
I had a description. The second they fired Candace, I canceled it.
Co-host
Really? So you used to be a subscriber to them?
Jake Shields
I didn't really watch it. I just didn't cancel it because I wanted. I think I signed up when they hired Gina Carano, who is a friend of mine, actress. When, you know, they hired her when she got fired for People. She got fired even. Oh, for a pronoun joke. You know, back when they were trying to push that whole thing that died out.
Co-host
Yeah. Trump and that.
Jake Shields
They're pushing. Yeah. But that was like a thing for a while. Like Hollywood, you're supposed to say, you know, him, him, he, or she, her. It's like, I can look and see you're a dude. I don't. I don't need your pronouns.
Co-host
Yeah.
Jake Shields
That's just so stupid.
Co-host
Yeah. I liked the concept of Daily Wire. Just education, you know, especially with the children. They were showing children good programming.
Jake Shields
Yeah. That's why I subscribed, even though I never ended up really watching it. I'm like, I've never canceled my. My membership because I'm like, you know what? I want to support this. This organization.
Co-host
Yeah.
Jake Shields
And I saw that, and I'm like, oh, I don't want any part of this organization.
Co-host
Do you think that was from the start of their inception, or do you think later on they just got so big they started getting crazy money offers?
Jake Shields
I think it was from the start, really. A lot of these organizations are planned from the beginning, you know.
Co-host
Wow.
Jake Shields
A lot of them are planned in Israel, especially the conservative media. If you look at them, it's all like, Breitbart, perfect example. They were founded in Israel with Netanyahu, Breitbart, and Who else is that? I think Ben Shapiro, that's where he came from. So these organizations, a lot of times are planned from Israel, pushed in, funded our tax dollars, go to Israel. Then they fund these new organizations where you can't be critical of Israel. And then we funnel more money Israel. So it's kind of like it's a scheme of we're giving them money to promote their country, then we keep giving them more money.
Co-host
Dude, it's pretty nuts because knowing what I know now about funding, like if I had millions of dollars, I would know how to go so viral. Like with these clippers, like you could pay these kids, just make clips of you all day and just blow up, Right?
Jake Shields
No, that's the crazy part. You realize things are changing really fast. Like, you know, having a podcast, we have to realize it's like not a lot of people are watching the long form content now. I personally very rarely do every now and again. So that's where I realized, start podcasting. I go, shit, you got to get like clips and this. And there's different social media. So it's this like anything. You have to pay attention and follow the industry. Absolutely. Same thing with fighting. You know, I fought for 20 years professionally, I had to follow trends, see the new things, see what people are doing. So now I'm, you know, started a podcast knowing nothing. You realize, oh, you're not just sitting there for two hours a week conversation. There's so much more work to it.
Co-host
Yeah. If you don't have clips these days, you're not going to make it as podcast.
Jake Shields
No, I mean, there could be some exceptions. The guy, well, the guys have already made it like Joe Rogan stuff, but.
Co-host
Even him, he's posting clips.
Jake Shields
Yeah, no, yeah, yeah. It's just true. And you definitely couldn't come out new without doing that.
Co-host
Yeah, not at all. Well, dude, where could people find Your podcast?
Jake Shields
Rumble, YouTube, Spotify, Apple, a few other places. Fight Back podcast, Jake Shields, you know, Jake Shields, AJJ on Twitter, Jake Shields on Instagram, Fight Fight Back podcast is the new store I just launched with merch, all kinds of, you know, cool fight T shirts, political T shirts, stuff like that. So perfect.
Co-host
We'll link below. Thanks for coming on, Jake, man. Yep. See you guys.
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Digital Social Hour: Why BlackRock Is Buying All the Houses | Jake Shields DSH #1185
Release Date: February 16, 2025
Introduction
In episode #1185 of Digital Social Hour, host Sean Kelly engages in a thought-provoking and unfiltered conversation with Jake Shields, a renowned mixed martial artist and podcast host. The discussion spans a wide array of controversial and timely topics, including the real estate market's manipulation by major corporations, the complexities of the Israel-Palestine conflict, the impact of social media on societal perceptions, and the evolving landscape of media and podcasting.
1. The Bryce Mitchell and Rampage Jackson Controversy
The episode opens with Shields addressing a recent controversy involving Bryce Mitchell and Rampage Jackson, both of whom are friends of his. Shields expresses his disappointment over how an episode featuring Bryce was mishandled:
Jake Shields [01:35]: "Because Bryce's situation where whether you agree or don't agree with what he said, he can't really defend himself right now. So it's just not fair to sit there and, like, berate someone when they're already down."
Shields criticizes the handling of interviews and emphasizes the importance of giving guests a fair platform to defend themselves, especially when dealing with sensitive topics.
2. Israel-Palestine Conflict and Media Portrayal
A significant portion of the discussion delves into the Israel-Palestine conflict. Shields shares his perspectives on the complexities and the often one-sided portrayal in mainstream media:
Jake Shields [03:55]: "There are boat tours where you can watch Gaza being bombed, and they take their kids. It's like a family outing."
He highlights disturbing accounts of violence and questions the global community's response, suggesting that these events are not isolated incidents but part of a broader and more troubling narrative.
3. Kanye West's Controversial Statements
Shields critiques Kanye West's recent actions and statements, framing them as calculated performance art rather than genuine outbursts:
Jake Shields [06:00]: "I don't think this is him going insane. This is, you know, exactly what he's doing. He came out of nowhere right before the Super Bowl... It's thought out, planned calculated."
Shields argues that Kanye's provocations are strategic moves to maintain relevance and push societal boundaries.
4. Influence of Foreign Lobbies on U.S. Politics
The conversation shifts to the influence of foreign lobbies, particularly APAC (Asian Pacific American Coalition), on American democracy. Shields raises concerns about the lack of regulation and transparency:
Jake Shields [12:32]: "APAC is a huge problem. It's not just APAC, but this... Israel is the only foreign lobby that doesn't have to register."
He underscores the potential for these groups to manipulate political outcomes through substantial financial contributions and covert operations.
5. Anti-Semitism, Free Speech, and Executive Orders
Shields discusses the contentious issue of anti-Semitism and its implications for free speech in the United States:
Jake Shields [17:04]: "They're taking this one group and saying, you can't criticize this group... There's no other country that has this. You can boycott America, other states, but you have to sign this petition, work for the government. So you can't boycott Israel."
He expresses concern over executive orders that limit criticism of specific groups or nations, arguing that it poses a threat to the foundational principles of free speech.
6. Real Estate Market Manipulation by BlackRock and Vanguard
A central theme of the episode is the role of major financial firms like BlackRock and Vanguard in the real estate market. Shields explains how their investment strategies are exacerbating housing shortages and driving up prices:
Jake Shields [30:44]: "They're buying thousands of homes at a time and they can come in and bid over the asking price and drive out families who are trying to buy a home."
He advocates for legislative measures to restrict such corporate acquisitions to protect families and maintain affordable housing.
7. Economic Concerns: Inflation and Investing Strategies
Shields delves into the current state of the economy, particularly focusing on inflation and personal investing strategies. He emphasizes the importance of investing to preserve wealth amidst declining currency value:
Jake Shields [28:49]: "You have to be investing, otherwise your money is losing worth. Since the last 100 years, dollars lost 98% of its value."
He advises investing in diversified portfolios like the S&P 500 and cautions against holding excessive cash, which depreciates over time.
8. Racism and Societal Changes
The episode addresses the evolution of societal attitudes towards race and identity. Shields reflects on his upbringing and contrasts it with the current social climate:
Jake Shields [26:40]: "I never felt racism at the school. I was always treated as one of the guys."
He discusses how movements like Black Lives Matter have reshaped conversations around race, sometimes creating divisions rather than promoting understanding.
9. Challenges in Modern Podcasting and Media Consumption
Shields shares his insights on the changing dynamics of podcasting and media consumption, highlighting the necessity of adapting to new trends to reach audiences:
Jake Shields [35:33]: "Anything new without doing that [creating clips and leveraging social media] is not going to make it as a podcast."
He underscores the importance of multi-platform engagement and the decline of long-form content in favor of consumable clips.
Conclusion
Jake Shields offers a candid and often controversial perspective on various pressing issues, from economic manipulations by powerful corporations to the complexities of free speech and societal cohesion. His insights challenge conventional narratives and encourage listeners to critically evaluate the forces shaping modern society. Sean Kelly facilitates a dynamic conversation, allowing for a deep exploration of topics that are frequently avoided in mainstream discourse.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps
Jake Shields [01:35]: "It's just not fair to sit there and, like, berate someone when they're already down."
Jake Shields [03:55]: "There are boat tours where you can watch Gaza being bombed, and they take their kids. It's like a family outing."
Jake Shields [06:00]: "I don't think this is him going insane. This is, you know, exactly what he's doing."
Jake Shields [12:32]: "APAC is a huge problem. It's not just APAC, but this... Israel is the only foreign lobby that doesn't have to register."
Jake Shields [17:04]: "They're taking this one group and saying, you can't criticize this group."
Jake Shields [30:44]: "They're buying thousands of homes at a time and they can come in and bid over the asking price and drive out families who are trying to buy a home."
Jake Shields [28:49]: "You have to be investing, otherwise your money is losing worth. Since the last 100 years, dollars lost 98% of its value."
Jake Shields [26:40]: "I never felt racism at the school. I was always treated as one of the guys."
Jake Shields [35:33]: "Anything new without doing that [creating clips and leveraging social media] is not going to make it as a podcast."
Final Thoughts
This episode of Digital Social Hour offers listeners a raw and unfiltered look into Jake Shields' perspectives on some of today's most contentious issues. Whether you agree with his viewpoints or not, Shields' willingness to tackle difficult subjects head-on provides a platform for important conversations that challenge the status quo.
For more insights and engaging discussions, tune into Digital Social Hour on platforms like Rumble, YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts.