A (1:37)

Oh, I feel that. Damn. Have you shared which one that is or no?

B (1:41)

No, I do. I. I'll tell you off camera, but I don't want to give them the satisfaction.

A (1:45)

I wonder, for two, I think it is. Cuz I know you've debated Andrew Wilson, I know you've debated some pretty big names, so I really do wonder.

B (1:51)

Yeah, I'll tell you later.

A (1:52)

Okay. Okay. Is it like a pretty structured debate or is it kind of freestyle tomorrow?

B (1:58)

No, it's pretty structured. It's a little different than I'm used to actually, because like Most of the debates I do are pretty like unstructured. But it'll be good because sometimes I'm just not a yeller. So like if one person starts yelling, they're just going to over talk, you know what I mean?

A (2:16)

That's not your style. Yeah. Because I saw your pod with Sean Strickland. That got pretty feisty.

B (2:21)

Yeah. But I guess, but I didn't really take it personal. I didn't think he was like mad or anything. I've had people like scream at me. So to me that was, that was nothing.

A (2:31)

Right.

B (2:31)

Yeah.

A (2:31)

Yeah. You grew up in a lot worse environments than that. Saw a lot.

B (2:36)

Not, not growing up but like, I mean I had like I did one show and this girl just starts like screaming in my face. Like every other girl threatened to come back and like, you know, I forgot what she said but. But it was a threat. It was definitely a threat. Geez. Then that I was so annoyed because then after that I had to start getting security like for the debates that I would do. It just takes one person to crash.

A (3:01)

Yeah. And that's expensive.

B (3:02)

It's so expensive. Yeah.

A (3:04)

Security is like 500 plus an hour.

B (3:06)

Yeah.

A (3:07)

Some of them, you know, if you want armed, it's more.

B (3:10)

Yeah. I mean I'm not going to talk about what security. Security on the show, but yeah, yeah.

A (3:18)

It's the space you're in though. It's very polarizing topic. I feel like people are so emotional.

B (3:23)

Yeah. They get really emotional. And I think my problem is I say a lot of things that offend people but like I really don't try to go personal at anybody.

A (3:32)

Yeah.

B (3:34)

But that favor is just never returned. It's just never like, like because if they say something that offends me like I can just chill out.

A (3:43)

Yeah. Yeah. You don't really go for the personal attacks. You kind of talk with facts and

B (3:47)

studies and I try to. I will.

A (3:50)

Yeah.

B (3:50)

If I get pushed to a certain point.

A (3:52)

But anyone would. Right. If they're attacking you and calling you a slut and whatever, you get called all sorts of names. I'm sure nothing phases you at this point.

B (4:00)

It doesn't.

A (4:00)

Have you always been pretty anti feminist or were you in support at a certain point?

B (4:04)

Well, I would say my. Some of my views have evolved but I've always been right leaning. Like when I was in eighth grade, one of my earliest memories is me arguing with my friend about abortion. I met Sarah Palin when I was like, I don't know how old I was but I know I met her because My mom would take me to like a Sarah Palin like rally or whatever. It was like a pro life speech. Like my grandma was pretty involved in the pro life stuff. Um, so, huh. Like she would go to events or whatever.

A (4:37)

So you kind of had that worldview from her growing up. And then what happened?

B (4:41)

Um, well, I wasn't that political, but I would always vote. Right. You know, and then when I was in England, I went there to play volleyball. And then on the side I just started my YouTube channel. And when I was doing that, I started interviewing men that were victims of like divorce, rape and like that sort of thing. Um, and that kind of evolved my views a little bit. Cause I didn't, you know, I'd say when I started I was very pro, like marriage and family and that kind of thing. But when I interview men that have just been like gotten their lives absolutely destroyed from getting married, I, I, I don't know, I don't think I could in good faith tell people to do or not do. It's just something like every person's gotta decide on.

A (5:26)

Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. How do you find these men everywhere?

B (5:30)

No. Do you know what's funny? They're around you, you just don't know it.

A (5:33)

Really.

B (5:34)

Yeah. Okay. Different podcast host, not gonna say who. Yeah, Very uppity. Kind of telling me I'm a doomer on this show. Has no idea that the guy that drives his guests to and from the airport had his son kidnapped out of state.

A (5:48)

Wait, what?

B (5:49)

I'll tell you who off camera, but like, because I don't think I'd wanna.

A (5:53)

That's wild.

B (5:54)

Yeah, because he like his driver told me that like his son had been like, essentially, you know, if a man took his son out of the country, there would be like, like the government would go track him down and get him back. Right. If he stole his son. Yeah, but women do that all the time. Like one guy, he took his son to Ukraine and he was trying to get his son during the war. It was crazy story. He got like pronounced dead. Because when he, he took his son, like, he took it, he went to Ukraine, got his son, took it back during, like when the whole, like the whole war just started.

A (6:32)

Yeah.

B (6:33)

And then he got arrested in Ukraine. They took his id and then the guy who took his id like blew up or something. Yeah. And so he got, they thought it was him and so he got pronounced dead, like.

A (6:45)

Oh.

B (6:46)

But one of the dads I interviewed.

A (6:48)

Holy.

B (6:49)

That wasn't, that wasn't the driver. I'm talking About. I've interviewed so many, they blend together. But yeah, I, I guarantee if we got 10 guys and I said, have you or anyone you know had a false accusation or gotten divorced? And it been extremely contentious. And if you ask the right questions, they're everywhere. People just don't pay attention or they don't want to see it. I don't know.

A (7:15)

So does that really set your opinion when it comes to marriage of just not really doing it?

B (7:21)

I don't say don't do it because it's not my place. Right. I mean, as a guy, I think men naturally weigh the pros and the cons of a decision, but at least know what you're signing up for.

A (7:33)

I can say that.

B (7:34)

Yeah. Because I've interviewed like men that will not retire. Like, one of the guys I interviewed was a pro. He, he. What's it called when you work in prisons?

A (7:44)

A guard or.

B (7:45)

Yeah, and he did that. He had a housewife, like six or seven kids, I think in Idaho, one of those states. And he got divorced. And because he had a stay at home wife, he was on the hook for more child support and alimony. And he'll never retire because he's in his 60s.

A (8:02)

Geez.

B (8:03)

Like the men that get divorced that like 40 kind of have it easy because they can rebuild, but they get divorced at 60.

A (8:08)

It's almost too late to rebuild at that point.

B (8:11)

Yeah. I mean, men are nine times more likely to commit suicide after a divorce. And I've interviewed men that are on the brink of it. Like, I've interviewed men that are living in their cars like they're homeless. And it. To me, I just didn't understand how no one was talking about it because it was way more common than you think. I mean, even in the podcasting world, Like, I could. Steven Crowder, but like his wife was getting 30,000amonth.

A (8:37)

Damn.

B (8:38)

And that's. And remember, he varied. A girl that was a virgin. Like a virgin, conservative, Christian, blonde.

A (8:44)

Like, can't get much purer than that. On paper.

B (8:46)

I mean. Yeah, on paper, right?

A (8:47)

Yeah.

B (8:49)

That's why I'm like, at this point there's. Because guys will always ask me, like, well, what can I do? And I'm like, look, I've seen women with every reason that, that like, you think she's gonna do it. They didn't do it. Like, one of the best wives I've ever met on paper. You wouldn't think.

A (9:04)

Yeah.

B (9:05)

And I've seen women like. Yeah. I mean, some it's obvious, but some it's yeah, yeah. I've seen men try Ukraine, and then she stole the kid to go back. Like, he tried overseas. Women. Yeah.

A (9:16)

Passport, bro.

B (9:17)

Yeah, that's. That's the issue you get with them, though, a lot of them kid and take it back. And the US doesn't really bring the. Like, they don't have any law. It. They don't really put a lot of resources into getting the kids back, even though if the roles were reversed, they probably would.

A (9:33)

Right. That's awful. Wow. Stealing the kid and going to.

B (9:35)

Whenever you get Amber Alerts, half the time that's just the dad taking his kid.

A (9:39)

Really.

B (9:39)

I know somebody that lost custody of his kid, and the. Or the mother killed one of the kids because she was so irresponsible.

A (9:49)

Oh, my God.

B (9:49)

And he didn't even. Like, she still got primary custody because it was something that, like, he. It could have. I forgot how the kid died, but it was in some way that, like, it was negligence, but it wasn't, like, malicious.

A (10:05)

Yeah, Yeah. I saw this with my dad. Honestly. He got divorced and almost ended his life, you know. So what you're saying really, like, I've seen.

B (10:13)

Yeah. So in my own life, everyone has.

A (10:16)

Yeah.

B (10:17)

I mean, it's been. It's been like, what, two or three generations? Like, who doesn't know somebody.

A (10:22)

Yeah. And the divorce rate is crazy.

B (10:24)

Yes. And I was kind of oblivious to a lot of it, so I'd maybe seen, like, false allegations on, like, college campuses. But the divorce stuff, I didn't. Because, again, like, I knew one girl growing up that went through it, but I believed the mother. I thought he was abusive. And then you start, like, unraveling, and you're like, you know what? He probably wasn't. He was kind of a chill guy.

A (10:49)

Like, you know, that's crazy.

B (10:50)

But it's. It's hard because when everyone's saying it, you think maybe he is.

A (10:53)

Yeah. So you put most of the blame on the woman, though, for. For divorces?

B (11:00)

Well, it depends on the divorce.

A (11:02)

Yeah. I guess, like, overall, like, from what

B (11:04)

you've seen, women are filing. Yeah.

A (11:06)

Yeah.

B (11:08)

I don't really, like, if a woman wants to get divorced, that's fine. I just wish it would stop. Like, I wish it could just be 50. 50. You don't need his money. It's totally fine. If you get divorced, it's fine. Just pay for it.

A (11:22)

Yeah. But instead, the man pays for.

B (11:24)

Yeah.

A (11:25)

Almost everything. Right.

B (11:26)

Yeah. Because, I mean, it's like, women get all the debt from college, and they run out of money. They have to Get a bailout plan 10 years later, then the guy signs up of times, he'll pay off the debt, and then in eight years later, then she can divorce him. And now she's got another decade of money from him.

A (11:46)

I don't think I'd. I'm married now, but I don't think I'd ever date a woman in debt.

B (11:49)

Yeah.

A (11:50)

You know what I mean? Especially when you're just starting out. Like, that's the hardest time to make money. Like, that would take so long to pay off. I guess it depends how much debt. But if we're talking college debt, I

B (12:00)

mean, the average is like $35,000. 32.

A (12:03)

That's a good amount of money. You'd have to really love her. 35,000. But the stuff these days, I hear with college debt is way higher than that.

B (12:12)

Well, and another thing they don't talk about is, like, married men earn more, but it's just because the woman, a lot of times will put the biggest purchases on the man's card. So.

A (12:22)

Wow.

B (12:23)

Like, I mean, now you have to.

A (12:25)

Yeah, man, yeah. You're bringing it.

B (12:28)

And if you don't pay child support, you go to jail. Bask. So a lot of the men that you see that are homeless, like, they're homeless because of child support. Because, like, if you really do the math, a lot of times it's more than 50 of a man's income because, like, he's on the hook for health insurance, dental, and you can do the, like, the child support calculator to see what the payments are. So, like, a lot of. A lot of men just. They can't pay it, so they just, like, are in the system.

A (12:58)

Wow. So it's over 50, you're saying? Usually not.

B (13:01)

Oh, I mean, it. It depends. But a good chunk of the time, if you include, like, the other things that the man has to pay for.

A (13:08)

Geez, that's crazy. And then if you don't pay, you go to jail. I mean, the. The other thing is, like, take your fishing license.

B (13:15)

They even take what they take fishing away from him. That's just evil.

A (13:20)

A lot of men like to fish, but. But my issue with that is, like, a lot of women get the money, right? And then they don't spend it on the kid. So there's also no accountability on the female side, because some of these women are getting tens of thousands a month.

B (13:33)

Yeah. I mean, it's tied to Social Security, so they'll never. Like, there's too many people making money off of men.

A (13:41)

No.

B (13:41)

So they need More men paying into the system. Jeez. Like, the entire. You know what's crazy? So there's a law firm in Dallas, and I went there for one of the most expensive divorces that I'd ever, like, worked with. He spent 1.5 million on a divorce. Still didn't get primary custody, but got good visitation, like 49. So for a guy that's pretty decent. Yeah, but it's still kind of crazy that he spent that amount of money.

A (14:10)

It's still nuts.

B (14:11)

Like, she still gets to make the decision, but whatever.

A (14:13)

It's all relative. Right. So, like, my dad spent like, 50,000 or whatever, which for him is a lot. Like, that could be relevant to 1.5 for that person. Yeah.

B (14:23)

Well, anyways, so I thought this. This law firm was cool. I met the lawyers, and this whole thing. I find out, like, a year later, I interview another guy from Texas, and he says, oh, he was the guy that got his kid transitioned. I don't know.

A (14:39)

Jeff Younger was this in. In Texas. Texas.

B (14:43)

And he went so far. He wanted this to not happen so bad, obviously.

A (14:47)

Yeah.

B (14:47)

Because he went. Took a law to, like, the Supreme. I don't know what it's called, but, like, he tried to get a law passed to stop his kid from getting, like, castrated because it's illegal in Texas, but there's nothing stopping them from bringing the kid to California and doing it. And so he wanted a law to stop that. And, yeah, they. They shot it down, basically. So there was, like, literally nothing else he could have did. His kid was, in fact, transitioned.

A (15:13)

Oh, my God.

B (15:14)

And I found out the same lawyer that won the case for the other dad actually was the one that represented this other dad and getting the kid transitioned. Wow. So I, like, that was kind of when I realized a lot of these lawyers, like, they might even seem cool, but a lot of them have blood on their hands, if I'm being honest, because the industry, it's. They make so much money off of the wives. There's just no way. Like, I have a hard time believing that a family court attorney that's worked for 20 years didn't participate. I. I mean, I don't. I don't really believe it.

A (15:52)

I mean, being a divorce lawyer is probably one of the best jobs right now.

B (15:54)

Yeah.

A (15:55)

You know, there's. So they don't run out of clients or business. I know there's a few that go on pots and go really viral, but. And they're. They're. They're trying to drag it out. If we're being honest.

B (16:04)

Yeah. I mean, and even because a lot of the ones that go on shows, I mean, I just, again, I just have a hard time believing they weren't a part of it.

A (16:16)

I do too.

B (16:17)

Yeah.

A (16:17)

Because you're trying to make money.

B (16:18)

Yeah.

A (16:19)

Let's be honest. You're a divorce lawyer. You want to drag this out. You get paid retainer, about an hour. It's like, why would you want to get it done quick?

B (16:26)

Yeah, exactly.

A (16:27)

That's why I hate lawyers in general. Honestly. I mean, it sucks in our job. We have to deal with lawsuits, and that's a whole nother podcast.

B (16:34)

I actually am getting sued right now.

A (16:36)

Really?

B (16:36)

Yeah.

A (16:37)

James O' Keefe just announced he's getting his 51st lawsuit right now too. I've dealt with a few guests where, like, they'll talk shit about someone and then that person will message me to take it down. I'm sure you deal with that too. Oh, really?

B (16:50)

Well, sort of. Just this one. It was a guy's wife. She wrote a book about him, and then he goes on one podcast, and now she's dragging us all to court.

A (17:00)

She wrote a whole last book about this guy. That's so some next level.

B (17:06)

It was like doxing. I'm like, I hate women.

A (17:09)

No, that's some next level pettiness to write a whole book.

B (17:11)

Yeah, because she married rich again, and so now she's got more money to waste. I'm like, how do guys fall? And he's so nice to the dad. That's the worst part. I'll meet these dads and they're so cool.

A (17:23)

Yeah. I mean, they fall for it, though. They can't control their dick.

B (17:27)

Do you know what? It's not even that. It's. Women change, you know? I mean, it's like. It's kind of easy to say when we're in our 20s and like 30s that they should have seen it coming or whatever. But I've seen guys do every mitigation strategy and, like, no debt. I mean, the. The one guy that's. He's actually kind of part of my monologue tomorrow. Yeah, he had a whole list. He. She needs to be from a two parent home. She needs to not have debt. She needs to like. Whole list he went for. He would only get married under those circumstances. Found the girl, had two kids. She was so spiteful, she killed his chocolate lab.

A (18:05)

What?

B (18:06)

Yeah.

A (18:07)

Oh, my God.

B (18:08)

And this was a guy who had every. Like, what else was he supposed to do? You know? That's crazy. Under, like, he was under a certain age. You know?

A (18:17)

Yeah. So woman change. I guess that's where the attention has to shift to trying to prevent the change. Is it?

B (18:23)

Yeah.

A (18:23)

You know what I mean? Or do you think it's inevitable you'd have to, like, literally box them in? I feel like. And that's not really.

B (18:29)

I mean, have you changed in the last 10 years? Yeah, I mean, I've, like, we've all changed.

A (18:33)

Yeah.

B (18:34)

Can't really. The problem is you just can't control another person. So you're trying to put. Not you, but, like, in general. People try to put accountability on the mat, man. But you can only do that if he has authority. You know, like if. If she says, I want to spend a bunch of money on your credit card and he says no.

A (18:53)

Right.

B (18:53)

And she does it anyway. Can he beat her? No.

A (18:55)

No.

B (18:56)

Can he? Like, what. What can he do?

A (18:58)

Yeah. So I guess you just need really good boundaries.

B (19:02)

I mean, what does it matter if you have boundaries if she doesn't respect them?

A (19:06)

Yeah. Yeah. Because then you can't. There's no accountability if she breaks the rule. Right. You're married. Like, what are you gonna do?

B (19:13)

And so. Yeah. So men just may. If you pay attention. Most relationships are kind of transgender.

A (19:19)

What do you mean by that?

B (19:20)

Like, if you pay attention. I think I've met one, Seen one relationship in my life where, like, the relationship's really on the guy's terms and not the woman.

A (19:31)

I don't really chase trends anymore. I just want clothes that work, feel good. And last, I've stopped buying a lot of clothes and started buying better ones. Stuff that fits right, holds up, and I actually wear. That's why I've been going with quints. They've got big basics. I actually use organic cotton sweaters, queen polos, lightweight jackets. Stuff that holds up to daily wear and still looks good, quality, solid, and everything's built to last. What makes Quince different is how they do it. They work directly with top factories. Cut out the middleman. And you're not paying for brand markup, just quality clothing. And they only partner with factories that meet high standards for craftsmanship and ethical production. Refresh your wardrobe with quints. Go to quince.com d dsh for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. That's Q-U-I-N-C.com dsh now available in Canada, too. Free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.comtsh.

B (20:30)

Like, most men make small concessions for their, like, girlfriend and just. They end up living where she wants to live, they end up doing what she wants to do.

A (20:39)

I'm definitely guilty of that. I mean, I feel like it's like inevitable.

B (20:43)

Yeah, because like if, if the girl always freaks out the guy, girls are just always going to freak out more than the guy and be more unhappy or whatever. And then men just make slow concessions over time and then over time they're basically enslaved to her emotions.

A (20:58)

And now with all the programming, I feel like with the feminist movement and God knows what else they're being, I

B (21:03)

don't really believe it's programming, I think.

A (21:05)

You don't think so?

B (21:07)

I think that's kind of conservative cope. No, I mean, okay, you're an 18 year old girl. Do you want to marry your high school sweetheart or go party with the highest status richest men on the planet? If you're good looking, you don't even have to be that hot. Now whenever an average looking women get to like deal with celebrity, you know, really, like why would they not?

A (21:29)

Do you think it's just kind of natural for women to, to think that way?

B (21:33)

I mean, I think it's like there's, I think people do what benefits them.

A (21:39)

Yeah.

B (21:39)

You know, and so if you look at people's choices, it like makes sense.

A (21:44)

I do hear that evolutionary brain argument sometimes.

B (21:47)

Not even like evolution. It's like women love parties, concerts, excite. Right? Like, yeah, that's stuff we like. So if your choice is like a boring from like the female point of view, like a boring life with kids or like in a family and like marrying your like the average guy from your high school or you get to go party with Drake.

A (22:11)

I mean like, I mean even as a guy I feel like I'd pick Drake.

B (22:16)

And like as a woman like a lot of conservatives are like, oh, women have to work and it's so hard. I'm like, not really. What jobs are women doing that are that hard? That would be harder than like working on a farm. My grandma had nine kids and worked on a farm in Wisconsin. And like, I mean this is scooping chicken poop, you know, cow manure, milking the cows, chopping chickens heads. I mean, I don't really know because I've never worked on a farm. But I, I've heard it's pretty hard. Like I've spoken to a few farmers, very hard. They can't even like leave the area because there's just so much to do on the farm.

A (22:58)

Yeah.

B (22:59)

And then you could do that or you could go live in New York City. You could have men take you on dates all the time. You could go to the greatest. The like VIP part. What are they gonna like? Duh.

A (23:11)

Yeah. No, I completely get why women use their looks to their advantage. It makes sense. Why wouldn't you if you're given these looks?

B (23:19)

Yeah.

A (23:19)

You know what I mean? But now like average women are getting the same perks too these days.

B (23:23)

Oh God, yeah.

A (23:24)

Why is that? It's weird.

B (23:26)

Well, because America's fat.

A (23:29)

Like I don't mind the hot girls getting those perks because they're just gifted with amazing genetics and like, yeah, you should be going to parties and. But now like average women are, are getting those benefits.

B (23:39)

Well, and it's going to be interesting because people aren't having kids, so younger women are going to have more power because they're really rare. So it's like.

A (23:48)

That's a good point.

B (23:49)

Yeah. Because I was looking at the population chart and now it's like dropping and I'm like, in 10 years there's going to be more single men because like everyone's divorcing and like can't stay together. Whatever.

A (24:01)

Wow.

B (24:01)

And then so you're gonna have like the men that are 30, the men that are 40, the men that are 50. The 20 year old guys aren't even in the game anymore. Yeah, they're iced out. But men that are 60 and they're all competing for like the one kid everybody had. And I think people have more boys, so.

A (24:18)

And AI robots, the sexual butts are going to be coming in around then too.

B (24:21)

Yeah. Well, I don't know if I. We'll see. Some people think it's going to impact stuff a lot. I don't know. We'll see.

A (24:29)

You don't think so?

B (24:31)

I'm undecided. I'll say that. I haven't made a decision. I just would think a sex robot would be hard to clean all the time.

A (24:40)

That's where your brain goes a bit. You're so logical.

B (24:44)

No, I'm just like, that's kind of gross.

A (24:46)

Yeah. It would have to have some blue light or something. Auto clean, right?

B (24:51)

Yeah. Maybe if they put auto cleaner.

A (24:53)

Yeah, I wouldn't want to manually clean it. That'd be disgusting. Reaching your hand in there. Yeah.

B (25:00)

Was that auto clean? You'd be down.

A (25:03)

I mean,

B (25:06)

do you know what happened? I'll tell you what. So someone called, I was like, no one will buy that. And someone called into my show and they had a doll in the background.

A (25:14)

Oh my God.

B (25:15)

And then I was thinking, I'm like, I'm not Beating these incel.

A (25:18)

Yeah. I mean, people can't. Guys can't get laid, you know?

B (25:21)

Yeah.

A (25:22)

They're buying these. Weird. There was just a hand job device. A CES in Vegas sold, like, 300,000 units just for, like, a machine giving you a hand job. That's where we're at now. These guys can't pull the incel. Movement's grown.

B (25:34)

Yeah.

A (25:34)

Shout out to Nick Fuentes.

B (25:37)

Well, and what is an incel? Right. Because the guy, like, the guy with the doll, he was divorced, but now he's, like, 55, like 60. He's not gonna go find a new bit. Yeah. A new. A new girl. I think at that age, that's old.

A (25:52)

Yeah. I think statistically, it's like you don't get laid for a year or something, but. Yeah, it could be wrong.

B (25:57)

No. Yeah. I mean, if that's what they say. But it's almost like. I feel like people use that term to, like, shame mad. I know. I know. Nick kind of owns it, but, like,

A (26:06)

Pierce tried to own him on that. Yeah.

B (26:08)

Yeah. But I'm like. Because a lot of the men. I've just. That I've. It was just interesting how the one interaction I had with someone that, like, would. That had one sort of. It was like a doll would. I don't know. But. But it wasn't like he was someone that didn't accomplish anything.

A (26:28)

It was just like he already had a wife in the past.

B (26:31)

Yeah. She ruined his life. And he's like, I'm done.

A (26:33)

She's sure you. You see that all the time these days.

B (26:36)

Yeah. He's like, one done. That's enough.

A (26:38)

You ever interview, like, guys that are happily married?

B (26:41)

That's what everyone says to me.

A (26:42)

Do you, though?

B (26:43)

And I. Oh, God, yeah.

A (26:44)

Oh, you do.

B (26:45)

For now.

A (26:49)

Call me in five years.

B (26:51)

Yeah. I mean, everyone's happy in the beginning.

A (26:53)

Call me in five years. Puppy love. Yeah. I remember when Myron went on that flagrant podcast and Akash just got married. And then I'm sure you saw what happened with that.

B (27:03)

But I know one couple that. I would say the woman respects her husband. I don't really see that often, though, where the guy's not constantly, like, being tortured. Really?

A (27:15)

Yeah.

B (27:16)

But I know one couple like that, and she's. I grew up with her. She's pretty cool.

A (27:21)

Okay. Did you ask her, like, what the secret sauce is?

B (27:24)

Like, she never had a phone.

A (27:27)

Whoa.

B (27:27)

She's still, like, now she got, like, one of those, like, dial phones, but she's never had a phone. Whoa.

A (27:33)

So you do believe in some sort of programming then, do you?

B (27:36)

Not really. I believe in, like, access. It's like, okay, if you get rich, Right? Like, let's say. I mean, you probably already doing well, but let's just say you got, like, a billion dollars.

A (27:47)

Yeah.

B (27:47)

And. And then you start, like, banging all these chicks. Right.

A (27:50)

Yeah.

B (27:51)

You always wanted to do that. You just now have the choice. Like, I think people, when you have the choice to do anything, it reveals, like, what you want to do.

A (27:58)

Yeah.

B (27:59)

And, you know, power corrupts. And, like, we've given women unlimited power to do anything.

A (28:04)

Yeah, they do have. I feel like they have more power than men now, Right?

B (28:07)

Oh, God. Yeah. I mean, paternity fraud, like, you can be on child support even if you're. Even if she is found guilty of paternity fraud.

A (28:17)

Yeah.

B (28:18)

So, like, why. Why is that not illegal? Like, you could end that tomorrow if we had DNA tests at birth.

A (28:24)

Yeah.

B (28:24)

Why isn't that. And, I mean, a third of paternity tests come back as the child's not the father.

A (28:30)

A third?

B (28:31)

According to the American Blood bank association, some people can test that stat, so we're never really going to know the answer. Some people say it's 5%, but even 5's high. It's like 1 in 20 births. The dad.

A (28:46)

That's stupid high.

B (28:47)

It's really high.

A (28:47)

My dad got two done on me.

B (28:49)

What?

A (28:49)

He got two paternity tests done on me? Yeah. He didn't trust it the first time. He said the girl was. The girl was Asian and she was in on it. But, like, everyone thought he was crazy at first. But, like, honestly, I think everyone should do that.

B (29:06)

I feel like I never stopped working. I'm like a talker. And I'm, like, on a plane once, and I found there was a woman that sat next to me, and I was telling her what I do for a living. And she said she was the daughter where, like, she was the daughter that wasn't her dad's. And so she found out her mom, like, did paternity fraud on her dad. She was the oldest.

A (29:30)

Whoa.

B (29:30)

So her younger siblings were from her dad, but she wasn't. Wow. And she said her whole life she felt like she didn't, like, fit in. And, like, when she found out, it just, like, made sense. And then she met her dad, and it was like, great.

A (29:45)

That's crazy. Yeah. I don't know. I took the 23 meeting, so I'm pretty sure I'm. I'm good three now. Yeah, I guess you're all crazy.

B (29:55)

Or something scared.

A (29:57)

She watches every show, so I'm going be respectful. But my dad had a lot to say about her. I'll say that. Pretty nasty divorce.

B (30:03)

Yeah.

A (30:03)

Did you have a divorced environment? Oh, really?

B (30:06)

My parents are still together.

A (30:07)

Wow. That's kind of ironic though, right?

B (30:10)

Yeah.

A (30:10)

You talk about this and they're still happily together.

B (30:12)

Yeah.

A (30:14)

That's interesting. Damn. Do they support what you do? At least?

B (30:19)

They think I'm extreme.

A (30:22)

I'm like, yeah, probably different generation. Yeah. I feel like they're more laid back and this is a whole new world to them.

B (30:27)

Actually, my dad called me today. He's like, did you say that Indians smell?

A (30:34)

How is that controversial?

B (30:35)

And I was like, dad, they do smell.

A (30:37)

Yeah.

B (30:37)

And then he's like, but not all of them. And I'm like, dad. But I'm like, but if they say white people can't dance, I don't say not all white people. And, like, show them.

A (30:47)

You know, people get so triggered these days.

B (30:50)

Yeah, I know.

A (30:50)

Like, that's not even.

B (30:51)

My dad's not even triggered easily. But he's just like. I think his mindset is just like, why? Yeah, like, why do you have to say that?

A (30:58)

That's not a hot take to me. Like, people were racist to me growing up, but I never took it. You know, being Asian, Ching Chong eating dogs, dumb stuff like that. But they do smell. Let's be honest. I know Myron gets canceled for saying that too. Have you been on a fresh and fit?

B (31:16)

Yeah, I went a while ago, but the last time I went, a fight broke out.

A (31:21)

What?

B (31:21)

Yeah, not between me, but between two of the girls.

A (31:24)

Oh, wow.

B (31:25)

And honestly, like, that was just. I was just like, I can't do this ghetto. It's like, I'm done.

A (31:33)

I gotta. I gotta scroll back and watch that one.

B (31:35)

Yeah, it was a while ago. I think if I'm kind of itching, so maybe I will go back, but I don't know. I feel like they were crazy.

A (31:45)

That's where I feel like I. Like in 23, I saw your tweet. You said you don't want to be as known as you were in 23.

B (31:51)

Yeah. Because do you know what? I don't like that many eyes on me.

A (31:55)

Really?

B (31:56)

It's kind of weird. Yeah, I just. It's. It's like fun, but it just kind of comes with problems.

A (32:02)

Yeah. Because you were getting hundreds of millions, maybe even billions of views that year.

B (32:06)

Yeah.

A (32:06)

I mean, I think you said your YouTube had a billion views.

B (32:09)

I had to delete it all.

A (32:10)

That's crazy. What are your thoughts on Nala Ray?

B (32:15)

You know, my thoughts.

A (32:18)

Setting you up. Sorry.

B (32:23)

I mean, Nala Rae just, you know, did the typical grift, which is, I'm gonna do only fans and then say sorry after and pretend I'm sorry, but keep the money. I mean, it's just. It's just. It's happened so many times at this point.

A (32:39)

Looks like Lily Phillips is next to do that. She just got baptized. I don't know if you saw that.

B (32:44)

Yeah. But hers is still. I think she's still doing poor.

A (32:48)

Yeah. I don't know how that would make sense, right.

B (32:50)

Yeah. Do you know what? Christians, they just want to be right so bad that it's taken advantage. Like, they love hearing that they're right about their religion, and so they just get bamboozled the most because they just want, like, to be told that they're right. So if they have a girl say, ah. I don't even believe that the girls didn't enjoy doing the porn. That's what they always say after that they didn't like it. But I'm like, they seem pretty happy, dude. At the time.

A (33:21)

Yeah.

B (33:22)

I don't. They're like, I was secretly sad. I'm like, you didn't look sad.

A (33:28)

Secretly sad. What do you think of this looks maxing trend? That's. That's pretty hot right now from clavicular. I've seen you tweet about him a few times.

B (33:37)

Oh, I think he's funny. I actually think it's cool. So I think the jaw surgery is a little extreme for me personally, but I don't know. I saw him on Michael Knowles, and I just thought he was cooking.

A (33:53)

I saw that up.

B (33:54)

I just thought he cooked, so. And I couldn't believe he was only, like, what, 19? Yeah. And Michael's been debating for a decade. Yeah.

A (34:04)

So I thought he cooked him. He has confidence when he speaks. Even if he's wrong, he's just. It's kind of like, oh, I'm interested, you know?

B (34:11)

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, some of it's extreme, as in anything, but I think it's cool. I love hearing why people are ugly. Like, I love hearing, like, why you're chopped.

A (34:24)

Yeah. I love his.

B (34:25)

Like, that's great.

A (34:26)

Yeah.

B (34:28)

And he's so specific.

A (34:30)

Yeah. He'll say the left orbital was 5cm off. Shout out to clavicular man doing his thing. All right, last one. Would you ever vote for a female president?

B (34:45)

Is. Are both candidates female? Because then I'm forced, right?

A (34:48)

No, it would be a female versus male.

B (34:54)

It would have to be such a bad, like maybe if it was like Trudeau and a woman. I maybe do some.

A (35:01)

Maybe do some in a woman or you'd pick newsome over. Wow. Oh, this man has like, allegedly committed, like, fraud and stolen money.

B (35:12)

Well, women commit fraud. Like, women lie every day. Like we wear makeup. You know what I mean? So that would be tough.

A (35:25)

All right, well, I think by the time this comes out, you'll already have debated Anna, and I think you'll win from what it sounds like.

B (35:32)

So we'll see.

A (35:33)

Check out that debate, guys. We'll link it in the video. Thanks for coming on.

B (35:36)

Thanks for having.

A (35:37)

Yeah, peace, guys. I hope you guys are enjoying the show. Please don't forget to like and subscribe. It helps the show a lot with the algorithm. Thank you.