Why Modern People Are Choosing NOT To Have Kids... | Woman Propaganda | DSH #1958

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Podcast Summary

Podcast: Main Feed (Digital Social Hour)
Episode: Why Modern People Are Choosing NOT To Have Kids... | Woman Propaganda | DSH #1958
Host: Sean Kelly
Release Date: May 10, 2026

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Overview

In this highly candid and controversial episode of Digital Social Hour, host Sean Kelly brings on "Woman Propaganda," a polarizing online figure, for a raw discussion about declining birth rates, perceptions of women in modern society, cultural divides, and the internet’s most divisive personalities. The conversation delves into the societal consequences of not having children, critiques of mainstream narratives around women and minorities, and the personal experiences of viral fame, including recent altercations and social media fallout. The duo also explores issues like homelessness, Section 8 housing, the lack of unity among right-wing influencers, and the mechanics of building online communities.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Declining Birthrate and “The Woman Question”

• Modern Reluctance to Have Kids: Sean repeatedly circles back to the core theme—Western societies, particularly young women, are not having children at sustainable rates, and this is seen as "a form of suicide" for a civilization. He attributes this directly to modern social norms, especially those around female independence.
  • [01:13] “Not having children is a form of suicide. Like if your bloodline ends with you. That’s crazy. You're here today 'cuz everyone before you had kids. And what, you’re not going to have kids 'cuz you just don't feel like it?” — Sean Kelly
• Role of Churches: Sean argues that churches give honest advice only to men—telling them to wait for marriage for sex—while women disregard these norms.
  • [00:00] “Young men have been lied to about women, particularly at church. Pastors are not being honest with young men. …The guys are listening to this advice and the women are not. None of the women at church are virgins.” — Sean Kelly
• Critique of “Girl Boss” Culture: Both hosts view the pursuit of career over family for women as ultimately unfulfilling and detrimental to society.
  • [10:42] “Oh, I was an accountant for 30 years. I mean, you know, I don’t think the girl boss stuff pays off. …I don’t think women feel good.” — Sean Kelly

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2. Homelessness: “A Third World Country”

• The hosts discuss firsthand experiences in cities like Phoenix, LA, and Venice Beach, condemning what they see as permissive policies toward the homeless.
  • [03:13] “We build a big camp in the desert, and we build a bunch of stationary bikes…you ride the bike, like, five or six hours a day, and you power the electric grid…You can do your crack and all that. But they can't just be on the sidewalk, you know, hooting and hollering at everybody.” — Sean Kelly
  • [03:58] “I'm sorry, but no one wants to hang out with homeless people.” — Sean Kelly

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3. “The Dark Triad”: Race, Women, and Social Cohesion

• Sean claims the core threats to Western survival are “blacks, women, and Israel’s control of government,” in his terminology the “dark triad.”
  • [07:13] “The three, the dark triad, on my side of the Internet, we have the…Blacks, women, that's who we're fighting to take our country back … I think the most important enemy in this dark triad is the women.”
• Dangerous neighborhoods and high crime rates are blamed on minorities; social media’s right-wing awakening is discussed as “everyone’s racist and anti-Semitic now.”
  • [05:25] “We’ve been lied to about women… Everybody on Instagram nowadays is racist and anti Semitic. Everyone's awake on the question.”
  • [06:37] “I think a little bit of racism is good so that you can avoid dangerous areas.”

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4. Antisemitism and Social Media Deplatforming

• Sean celebrates being named “Anti Semite of the week,” and discusses being banned from social media for views about Israel.
  • [32:05] “I won Anti Semite of the week. And then like a week later I get banned from YouTube.”
  • [32:18] “It’s like a trick that I do. I show you a viral video, then I look into the camera and I say, Israel did 9/11.”

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5. The Right’s Infighting and Viral Fame

• Sean and the host observe how online personalities like Andrew Tate are built up and then torn down by their own audiences after any perceived failure.
  • [17:33] “I will always love Tate for what he did for this country. …He woke up an entire generation of young men about women. Tate’s really good on the woman question.”
• Sean’s own “slap” incident becomes a case study in the fleeting loyalty of online fans, and a lesson in the dangers of going viral for the wrong (embarrassing) reason.
  • [24:45] “For the next, like, two, three days, you get on Twitter, you see the Bondi beach mass shooting, and you see me getting slapped.”
  • [26:53] “I'm on my villain arc now. …Thousands of women messaging me on Instagram saying, you coward. I hate you.”

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6. Section 8 Housing and “White Genocide”

• Sean lays out his campaign to place Section 8 housing bans on state ballots and frames public housing as “terrorism on white people.”
  • [55:32] “I actually started a non profit and or now it's a PAC…stop8.vote. … The goal is to get Section 8 on the ballot in all 50 states.”
  • [56:57] “Section 8 housing is terrorism on white people. … I say that Section 8 housing is terrorism on anyone that pays their own rent.”
  • [57:42] “You have a beautiful neighborhood…Section 8 right down the street…I’m surprised homeowners haven't sued the government.”

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7. Internet Influencers: Name “Hot Takes”

• Short takes on online figures:
  • Erica Kirk: [41:20] “I think Charlie got played. …Maybe Erica Kirk is a federal agent. Honey pot honey, potentially.”
  • Bryce Crawford: [45:42] “He’s a virgin marrying a non virgin…These pastors are lying to young men. …As if I was his buddy, I would say, no, dude, this girl’s a hoe.”
  • Clavicular: [51:07] “He’s hilarious …he’s doing peptides and hitting his face with a hammer. … The one thing that scares me…is the limb lengthening surgery. Yeah, that might do him in.”

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8. Dating, Masculinity, and the “Woman Propaganda” Community

• Sean now runs a discord where men are taught to “cold approach” women and learn content creation.
  • [64:55] “Much needed. Guys need help with this stuff. Join the Woman Propaganda Discord and we will teach you how to get laid.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On moral decline and suicidal society:
  • [01:13] “Not having children is a form of suicide. …You’re here today because everyone before you had kids. And what, you’re not going to have kids because you just don’t feel like it?”
• On church hypocrisy:
  • [00:00] “Young men have been lied to about women, particularly at church.”
• On gender roles:
  • [10:42] “I don’t think the girl boss stuff pays off. …Women feel good.”
• On Andrew Tate’s legacy:
  • [17:33] “Andrew Tate’s really good on the woman question. …He basically told us all, like, these women are whores and you have to act accordingly.”
• On viral hate:
  • [26:53] “Thousands of women messaging me on Instagram saying, you coward. I hate you…the women were like, really upset at me for getting slapped and not hitting the guy back.”
• On Section 8 housing:
  • [56:57] “Section 8 housing is terrorism on white people. That’s an inflammatory way of saying it, but really, Section 8 housing is terrorism on anyone that pays their own rent.”
• On the N-word:
  • [60:38] “I yelled it on Fresh and Fit. That was fun. But I actually prefer to say with an A at the end. I like, I like it more that way. …It’s casual. I just… it’s basically my favorite word.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:00–01:20] — Introduction: Church and sexual/social double standards
• [02:20–03:53] — Homelessness and solutions
• [05:25–10:53] — "Woman question" and racial grievances
• [12:36–15:41] — Abortion, history, and Planned Parenthood
• [15:41–19:39] — Online right-wing infighting and Andrew Tate
• [20:59–24:44] — Being “honey potted” by women, fame, and viral slap incident
• [31:53–33:06] — Bans and antisemitism on social media
• [36:25–40:08] — “White genocide” and U.S. demographic decline
• [41:20–44:21] — Takes on internet personalities (Erica Kirk, Nick Shirley, etc.)
• [55:32–58:25] — Campaign against Section 8 housing
• [64:53–65:24] — Woman Propaganda Discord and dating advice

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Summary Tone & Style

The episode maintains a conspiratorial, provocative, and offensive tone, embracing highly controversial opinions and language as part of its 'unfiltered' brand. The dialogue swings between complaints about societal decline, self-promotion, and internet purity tests—marked by frequent antagonism toward women, minorities, and perceived political enemies in both mainstream and right-wing circles.

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Disclaimer: This summary reflects the offensive, controversial, and often inflammatory views of the speakers and should not be interpreted as an endorsement of any content or sentiment expressed.

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Transcript

[Sean Kelly]

Young men have been lied to about women, particularly at church. Pastors are not being honest with young men. Tucker Carlson says that a lot, but not having children is a form of suicide. The thing about church is they're telling all the young people, wait till you're married to have sex. The issue is that the guys are listening to this advice and the women are not. None of the women at church are virgins.

[Podcast Host]

Okay, guys. Woman propaganda back on the show. He's been up to a lot since we last seen each other.

[Sean Kelly]

Good to see you again, Sean.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, good to see you since AM Fest.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. That was crazy. I saw you right after I slapped that kid. I took Cam Higby's phone out of his hand and threw it at his face. Then I slapped that other guy. Then I ran into you immediately after.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. What happened since then? Did they come after you legally or anything?

[Sean Kelly]

No, nothing. I don't know if they could. What they could do. Cam Higby was, like, antagonizing me for the last 20 minutes before that all went down. Had his phone in my face and I don't know. It wasn't that, but no one was, like, really hurt or anything. The guy that I slapped, it was like, nothing. He was fine.

[Podcast Host]

It's like a Will Smith slapper.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. It was not a big deal. No, no. No one came after me for that, but I had to leave. And then. Oh, and apparently I'm banned from Amfest now.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, because of that.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Yeah. I. I was told that I'm not allowed back. I'm not invited back to Amest.

[Podcast Host]

That's actually a bummer, cuz. Hate him or Hate or love Turning Point. They do have good events.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, they did. Well, it's fun. And everyone there knows me. When I showed up, I didn't even go into the event. But I was walking around earlier outside the convention center, and everyone knew me. They're pointing at me, gasping. That's the guy. I'm, like, infamous.

[Podcast Host]

I think I almost got jumped walking about a bun, dude.

[Sean Kelly]

Really?

[Podcast Host]

There's a lot of homeless in that area.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Arizona does have some homeless.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. That was weird because I walked there from the conference center and there was, like, a lot of homeless people.

[Sean Kelly]

Dang. I didn't. I guess I didn't see that area up close. No, I was at the hotel down the street, and then I walked over. Um, but yeah, the route I took,

[Podcast Host]

I had to go under a bridge. There was, like, 10 homeless people sleeping there, and one of them was standing at the top of the staircase with a knife, and I had $100,000 watch on.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, yeah, yeah. So not good.

[Podcast Host]

Wasn't a good, smart decision on my end.

[Sean Kelly]

But what do we got? What do we do with the homeless people? I don't think they should. I don't think you should be allowed to just be homeless hanging out on the street like that. I think if you're homeless, we gotta, like, put you in a camp and we could give you food and water, but you're not allowed to just sit on the sidewalk and make people uncomfortable everywhere.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I mean, if you go to Venice beach right now.

[Sean Kelly]

Ridiculous.

[Podcast Host]

There's more homeless people than not homeless.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Yeah. Why is it. But that ruins the vibe for everybody. It's like a third world country at that rate. It's like. It's totally insane. I.

[Podcast Host]

And then you look at all the money that goes towards fixing it, and it.

[Sean Kelly]

And nothing gets fixed. It only gets worse.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Makes it worse.

[Sean Kelly]

My idea for the homeless is we build a big camp in the desert, and we build a bunch of stationary bikes, and we hook it up to the electric grid. So if you're homeless, we put you in this camp. You ride the bike, like, five or six hours a day, and you power the electric grid, so that way you're contributing to society. Riding that bike.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

And then we can give you food and water and we could even give you drugs. You can. You can do your crack and all that. But they can't just be on the sidewalk, you know, hooting and hollering at everybody that walks by them. It ruins the vibe. It's not fun to walk around. Venice beach is not fun to walk around.

[Podcast Host]

Like, nowhere is when there's a bunch of homeless.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Like, it's. They're the. I'm sorry, but no one wants to hang out with homeless people.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. So you want to put them to work?

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, I want to put them to work. Or at the very least, just get them. They can't be in civilization with the rest of us. It's not. It's not fair. These are dangerous people. You know, you can't let your kids go play outside because they're. They could get attacked or kidnapped or, you know, whatever by some homeless person.

[Podcast Host]

Have you tried conversing with any of them?

[Sean Kelly]

No, I usually go, no, thank you. And I keep walking. If they say something to me, you

[Podcast Host]

don't get the money.

[Sean Kelly]

No, Never, never give them money. I. They know. If they try and say anything to me, I just go, nope. And I keep walking.

[Podcast Host]

The ones in Vegas are strategic, man. They'll wait at the light and then walk around with a bin, go up to every car, wind.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host]

If you put all this thought into that, like, can't you do some other work?

[Sean Kelly]

I know, why don't you grind it something that's, like, helpful to people. Yeah, no, we just. We got to give them jobs. We could pay them to pick up trash or something, but I wouldn't mind

[Podcast Host]

tax dollars going towards that.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, well, our tax dollars are getting wasted on anything and everything else. Like, let's put. Yeah, I don't know. Something real could be done about homeless people. But I think we have to admit that we've been lied to about homeless people. Hollywood, that Home Alone 2 movie with the pigeon lady, they try and convince you that homeless people are, like, just down on their luck and they're actually good people. But homeless people are evil. You know, we're being honest.

[Podcast Host]

What other types of people have we been lied to about?

[Sean Kelly]

Women. We've been lied to about women. You know, I'm glad you asked. This is very controversial to say on my side, but I think the woman question is the most important question right now. Everybody on Instagram nowadays is racist and anti Semitic. Everyone's awake on the question, on. Everyone's seen the AI translated speeches and dudes will think they're based because they like Hitler, you know, but then they're simping over women and their. Women control their lives and they can't get a girlfriend or they. They're. They're doing everything wrong that you could possibly do in regards to how you treat women. So I think that the woman question, I think it's more important than being racist and anti Semitic. Being racist and anti Semitic will, like, get you in trouble. It's almost not helpful. Yeah, I think a little bit of racism is good so that you can avoid dangerous areas. If you're like a white person and you walk into a Walmart and you only see black people around, you know, that happened to me a few times in Florida. I knew enough to just get out of that Walmart. Like, this isn't the Walmart. I don't feel safe in this Walmart. Right. So I think a little bit of racism can save your life. You know, people said if Irina Zarutska was more racist, she would be alive today.

[Podcast Host]

Who was that? Was that the girl on the bus?

[Sean Kelly]

The girl on the bus that got stabbed in the neck, you know, sees a deranged looking black man and just sits right in front of them, like, no problem.

[Podcast Host]

I also think the AirPods people are just not paying attention. You know what I mean?

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, that too. Yeah. It's like a dangerous country we live in. It's really unfortunate, but I think, yeah, no AirPods. And if she had a little bit of racism understanding of the situation in America, I think she'd be alive today. But so that being said, so the three, the dark triad, on my side of the Internet, we have the. We talk about the dark triad. Blacks, women, that's. That's who we're fighting to take our country back. They say Israel owns our government, right. And then minorities are committing all this crime. Black people hate white people, they're demanding reparations, and then the women are out of control. This is the dark triad. And what I say is that the most important enemy in this dark triad is the women. The woman question. And this is where men are lacking the most. All the young men in this country nowadays, they don't like Israel and they're aware of the problem with minorities. Slash America becoming minority white.

[Podcast Host]

Right.

[Sean Kelly]

White people are about to be the

[Podcast Host]

minority in our lifetime.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, yeah, yeah. We're coming up on like being 50 of the population. Another couple decades, we're going to be 30 then 20 of the population. Right now we're a hated majority. Pretty soon we're going to be a hated minority. So that's a pro. This is not a good situation for white people. And then, so tying it, tying it all back, though, I guess I'm saying the overlooked part of the equation here is the woman question. Young men have been lied to about women, particularly at church. I talk about this all the time. But pastors are not being honest with young men. We have all these Christian pastors that refuse to talk about white genocide slash the great replacement white people becoming a minority in America. We got all these based alpha male pastors that are scared of getting called racist so they won't talk about white genocide. And I think it's. I think that's the number one issue is that the top issues are white genocide. And then basically just the women being out of control, the women not wanting to have children. I say it all the time, but I think we need to put the women back in chains. Like when women are given the option to not have children. We have learned that they choose not to have children. And that's like unacceptable because we're all going to die if the women are not having children. So I think we got to put them back in chains. But the good news is that I think they're actually happier being wives and mothers, even if they don't think they would be happier that way. Science shows that they are.

[Podcast Host]

There's a lot of studies on how they live longer actually. Right.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, that, yeah, you're, I mean, you have children, then you have grandchildren, and then later in life you feel accomplished. Whereas if you're a girl boss, what, you have a 9 to 5, half your income goes to taxes, you're a wage slave, and at the end of your life you have no offspring. And what are you proud of?

[Podcast Host]

Right.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, I was an accountant for 30 years. I mean, you know, it's, I don't think the girl boss stuff pays off. I, I, I don't think women feel good.

[Podcast Host]

I met a few of them. They all seem like, I don't know, like they want dick, but like, you know what I mean? Like I've met a few of them. Like they're making a lot of money and, but like they don't seem overall happy. Yeah, like they're missing something.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, it's, it's just not a woman's role to be like a girl boss or in charge in that manner. Yeah. And then these girl bosses are sleeping around, sleeping around with random men and then not getting married and not having children. It's, it's just stupid. It's a waste of time. I mean, sex is for having babies. It's like kind of a waste of time. And I, I'm guilty of having sex for recreational purposes. You know, I, I get it, especially when you're younger, but at some point you got to start having babies and, and people just aren't doing it right. Even the people that move here from the third world, they have a lot of kids at first, and then within a few generations, their kids are just as cucked as we are. You know, not having kids, not becoming parents and grandparents. So there's something deeply wrong and sick with this country that the people that live here just choose not to have children. Like I said this last time I was on your podcast and Tucker Carlson says that a lot, but not having children is a form of suicide. Like if the your bloodline ends with you. That's crazy. You're here today cuz everyone before you had kids. And what, you're not going to have kids cuz you just don't feel like it? Yeah, that's most people's answer.

[Podcast Host]

It's even worse than that though, cuz not only are they not having kids, they're having abortions.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So they're actually technically killing Lives.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. There's a lot of. Yeah. Like a million abortions a year in this country. It's a cursed country. People think we're the good guys. And I don't. I don't think we. I don't know about that.

[Podcast Host]

I don't think we are. History is taught from a biased perspective no matter what country you're in.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've been lied to.

[Podcast Host]

I just found out yesterday from what my guest. So if you're a black baby born in New York City, you actually have a greater chance of being aborted.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Born.

[Sean Kelly]

I've heard that.

[Podcast Host]

Crazy, right?

[Sean Kelly]

Super crazy. Yeah. That's the irony with abortion is like most abortion. The vast majority of abortions, like more than 50% in this country are black babies. So all these pro abortion liberals, it's like, yo, you know, that's a big pile of black babies. Dead black babies that you're celebrating or marching for. Whatever. Yeah. It's a. It's a genocide on black people, really. Is what abortion is.

[Podcast Host]

That's why Planned Parenthood was made this.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, yeah. Planned Parenthood was like a racist thing. Yeah. We can either pay white people to have babies or we can pay for black people to get abortions and that. They went with the Planned Parenthood route.

[Podcast Host]

Crazy.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. No, it's. We live in dark times, dude.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, dude. A lot of fighting going on, especially on the right. Right now.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, yeah. The. Well, yeah. I don't know where you want to go with that, but.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, there's a few we could talk about. Start with Elijah and. Was it Sarah?

[Sean Kelly]

Elijah and Sarah Stock. Unfortunate situation. Sarah Stock was doing the Catholic trad thing, and then you find out that she was cheating on her fiance and she was not a virgin before she got married. And everybody. It's kind of a shame because there's no unity on the right. You know, everybody's jumping on Elijah and Sarah, talking about how they're terrible people and blah, blah, blah. And I agree they did some things that were not good. But I can appreciate that Elijah and Sarah Stock both speak up about white genocide. They're both speaking out up about the fact that, you know, they tell the truth about black people, stuff like that. So there's a lot of things they tell the truth on that other people are too scared to talk about. So I can really appreciate that. Everyone's dog piling on him right now. When I got slapped, there was no, you know, everybody was pissed at me. And it kind of. The slap made me realize, like, oh, there's yeah, there's no unity on the right. No one's actually your friend. No one actually has your back. Twitter is just a vicious place. Like, everyone's so excited to just attack you and kill you on Twitter.

[Podcast Host]

I mean, dude, look at how the tables have turned with Andrew Tate.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Everyone's calling him Top Goy now.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. He used to be, like, the most respected guy I know.

[Sean Kelly]

Every face, but every and every. And it just shows you, though, like, no one actually likes you. People are happy to see you fall. Like, people are saying Tate took an L because he. What's the word? Apologized for being in the club with the Heil Hitler song playing.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

And I guess it's like, a bummer he had to apologize. But I get where, like, he's so influential. He's so famous. I. I know that he's got people threatening him or telling him, like, you know, well, who. Who knows what they have on him? But it could be something as simple as, like, we'll kill your family. We'll kill your kids if you don't. He's got a lot of disavow. He's got a bunch of kids. Maybe. Maybe they'll go after his kids if they. If he doesn't disavow that night at the club. So, you know, his hands are tied. I. I feel bad he was put into a tough situation there, but I will always love Tate for what he did for this country. And 20. You know how many people he woke up. People are so quick to throw him under the bus. Every. Everyone was so happy to turn on him. And I'm like, you know how many young men Andrew Tate Woke up during 2020? I also will always just appreciate Tate for Hustlers University. Hustlers University turned me into an entrepreneur. I'm a Hustlers University graduate. Everyone called hu a scam. It's not a scam. If you sign up for it and do the courses, they actually will teach you how to start an online business. That's when through Hustlers University, I learned clipping, and I started this clipping business. I got 5 billion views for all my clients.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Sean Kelly]

Got a billion views for Jesse Lee Peterson. I'm the number one Jesse Lee Peterson clipper in the world. Made tens of thousands of dollars just clipping. Jesse Lee Peterson made that money on YouTube and Facebook. So Hustlers University changed my life. I. I was at a 9 to 5 job before, and now I work for myself, so. So shout out Hustlers University. That. That alone, I'm. I'M indebted to Andrew Tate forever. I really appreciate.

[Podcast Host]

And they actually, I don't know who, but someone destro money, apparently from him. He was doing 150 million a year, and when he got canceled, I guess the payment processors are banks.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, well, I know they changed the name and it used to be hosted on discord. And they got off Discord onto. I mean, I'm not surprised. I'm sure there's. There's all sorts of attacks he's experienced.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that doesn't. But people don't know this. You know what I mean? They'll just see him make these statements and apologies, but they don't know what they're doing to him behind the scenes.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. That's why I felt bad. That's why I'm. Yeah, again, everyone's like, this guy's a hero. He woke up so many people and then, like, he publicly takes an L and everyone's so excited to throw him under the bus. And I'm like, what this man did for the movement. Like, what have you done for the movement? This guy woke up an entire generation. This guy educated an entire generation of young men about women. This guy, he's. Andrew Tate's really good on the woman question. He basically told us all, like, these women are whores and you have to act accordingly. You have to become a high value alpha male so that women don't control you or ruin your life. Tate has saved so many lives, so many marriages. He's done wonders for the world. And, yeah, I don't know, I think it was unfair the way everybody treated him after that.

[Podcast Host]

Sneako's just been. I don't even know how to describe it. Just been going at them like, yeah, stop.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. What is. I don't know. Sneako's jealous or something.

[Podcast Host]

Speaking of woman, though, I saw you a clip about you talking about your trip to New York, about a potential honey pot. I did want to ask, were you serious about that?

[Sean Kelly]

What was the.

[Podcast Host]

You said you went to New York and there was a couple girls that might have been honey pots trying to get with you.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That happened because you are at a

[Podcast Host]

pretty influential level now. You're a single guy, you're getting hundreds of millions of views.

[Sean Kelly]

So, yeah, I got. I definitely am wary of honey pots. There's one girl in particular. I'm not going to say her name, but there's one girl of a few in our space.

[Podcast Host]

Bro, we'll talk off camera.

[Sean Kelly]

Okay, perfect.

[Podcast Host]

I know a lot of guys fall for that shit, too.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, I. I've had enough experience with women that the honey pots aren't. I. I don't have a problem saying no to them. And then there's other girls. If I want to get laid, I can get laid. I don't need. I don't need one of these honey pots so that I can get laid. Yeah. There was one girl in particular in New York. I took some pictures with her, and then immediately, I'm getting phone calls from buddies back home telling me, dude, don't hang out with that.

[Podcast Host]

Be.

[Sean Kelly]

Be careful. She's gonna hunt it. Like, I. Yeah, I'm getting warnings from people, be careful. That's a honeypot, dude. She's going to destroy you. Blah, blah, blah. Ok, my bad.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, you got to move smart, bro, because you got to dodge the honey pots. You got to dodge the handlers. You got to dodge people.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Just trying to take your money.

[Sean Kelly]

I know the New York Young Republicans gala was full of that. The honeypots didn't end up being a problem for me. My problem in New York was I got drunk. And then. And then I went to troll. I. Everyone's offering me drinks at the New York gala, and I'm not a big drinker. I got blackout drunk. And then that's when the slap video happened. Some guy tells me, oh, there. There's a leftist protester calling everyone Nazis over there. You should go troll him. I'm blackout drunk, and I say, yeah, great idea. And that's where that video comes from. I'm yelling at this guy, calling him a beta male. It's totally my fault. I should not have. I. I'm too big to be drunk in public, and I'm just like a normal autistic guy. I got famous really quickly. I wasn't. I'm not walking around thinking in terms of, like, my personal brand and my aura. Like, I lost all my aura when I got slapped. I wasn't thinking about my aura at all. And now. But I learned now. I know. I know that. And I mean, now I'm in a position where people know that they can, you know, with me or attack me. And it will go viral.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

So I'm prepared for.

[Podcast Host]

It sucks that people tried to test you since.

[Sean Kelly]

No, not really. People. Well, now when I see people, they bring up the slap. They're like, oh, I saw you got attacked. I'm sorry to hear that, man. And then they want pictures with me. But I am. I'm ready for. I get. Every time I get recognized, it's Always positive. New York City is the only place I've been recognized and people didn't like me. It was interesting.

[Podcast Host]

Liberals.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Some liberals that, like, knew me, knew my face, knew exactly who I was, and they were like, you, you're trash. I'm like, oh, wow, okay, whatever. In South Carolina, in Florida, even when I visit California, people recognize me and they like me. They want to get pictures with me. It's only in New York that I've had problems.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah. You can't be drinking in public at your level.

[Sean Kelly]

No, no, I can't, dude. I wasn't thinking about it. I didn't. It's totally my fault, but. But now I know it was a good learning lesson, you know, it could have been worse than it was.

[Podcast Host]

It's probably better to experience it now, somewhat early on in your career, I'd say.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, definitely. I'm, I'm prepared, and I'm just. You're not gonna catch me drunk in public again. Slash, you're just. Yeah, you're not gonna catch me unprepared like that. But again, I, I, I don't remember the, the slap at all.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, so you actually blocked out?

[Sean Kelly]

No, I was blackout drunk for that. That video is me blackout drunk.

[Podcast Host]

Like, you were wobbling on it.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm in there and the shivering in the cold, like, blackout. I only know what happened because I watched the video. After I see the video, I sober up. I see the video later, and I go, oh, no. And then right after getting slapped, I meet Nick Fuentes. That's my first time meeting Nick. Nick Fuentes.

[Podcast Host]

You don't even remember meeting him?

[Sean Kelly]

No, no, I was, I was able to meet him later in the night and have a real conversation with him later. So that was good. But, yeah, that was my first time meeting him. Was blackout drunk right after getting slapped. And then that slap was the number one story in the world for three days.

[Podcast Host]

For a while. Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

There was the Bondi beach mass shooting in Australia, and that happened at the same exact time as the Slab. So for the next, like, two, three days, you get on Twitter, you see the Bondi beach mass shooting, and you see me getting slapped.

[Podcast Host]

Video was everywhere. Not even just Twitter, Instagram, TikTok now.

[Sean Kelly]

Everywhere. Yeah, I'm like, I was funny. For the time being, I'm Instagram guy who got slapped. And then eventually I'll go viral for something else, and you might have to

[Podcast Host]

rebrand into a boxer or something.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna have. I need to go viral. Knocking someone Out. I need. I need to fight someone and show that I can. I don't know. I. I gotta go viral for something else.

[Podcast Host]

Maybe you could get on Aiden Ross's card.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, does he. Yeah. Wait, does. Is that brand Risk? Yeah. Okay.

[Podcast Host]

The Jason Love Adam 22 fight.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, yeah. Maybe he could set me up to fight somebody.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I wonder who you'd fight. Maybe Neon or.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, that'd be. Oh, I'd love to fight Neon.

[Podcast Host]

Neon would be Jack Toherty.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, I'd fight Jack Door. Yeah, I think those guys are kind of smaller as well.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, they're around your height, I think.

[Sean Kelly]

Nice. Oh, totally. Yeah. Oh, I'd fight them.

[Podcast Host]

Set that up. Aiden.

[Sean Kelly]

Aiden Ross. Hook it up for me, please. I will never say anything bad about ever again.

[Podcast Host]

They didn't let Nico in the last one.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, damn.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, they did not let Sneo Myon, too.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, wow. They not letting my saying, bro.

[Podcast Host]

There's a lot of infighting on the right.

[Sean Kelly]

And there is.

[Podcast Host]

I don't know what's going on, but the party's really divided.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, yeah, no, there's. There's no unity at all. There's. And, like, the slap really made me realize that everyone was, like, so happy to just. Oh, everyone was, like, happy to see me take a big L and I'm like, oh, like, I don't have any friends. No one has my back.

[Podcast Host]

Prior to that, you were getting all love.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, I. I really was. I. I was getting. I was probably 90 love 10, hate. And nowadays it's like, I don't know, maybe 30 love 70. It's totally. I'm on my villain arc now. I mean, it's totally.

[Podcast Host]

I didn't know it was that drastic.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, dude. I don't know how much I should say, but. But, yeah, like, no, it was. It kind of changed the brand. I mean, I had thousands of women messaging me on Instagram saying, you coward. I hate you. The women were, like, really upset at me for, like, getting slapped and not hitting the guy back. Yeah, the women hated that video. I got. I got thousands of messages from dudes saying, I used to look up to you, and now I can't anymore. What I got. I got people that I haven't talked to since high school texting me, saw you got slapped. I'm like, oh, good to hear from you, dude.

[Podcast Host]

That's crazy.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, every. That video, like, I started woman propaganda less than a year ago. I got about 3 billion views in eight months. And then that slap. Did I estimate that slap did a billion Views in three days.

[Podcast Host]

Jesus.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Like, it was. It was literally the number one story in the world for three days. So I don't. Yeah, I don't know. I'm. I'm Instagram guy who got slapped for the time. For the time.

[Podcast Host]

You might have to fight that kid then.

[Sean Kelly]

Who?

[Podcast Host]

I don't know. The kid who slapped you.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, the guy. Oh, the penguin. Yeah. You know, I don't know. He has, like a hundred pounds on me. If I fought him, I'd have to.

[Podcast Host]

That wouldn't be fair.

[Sean Kelly]

I don't know. I'd. I'd have to put on weight. I'd have to have. I'd have to tire him out. I'd have. I don't know. I'd be.

[Podcast Host]

That's too big of a Wake up.

[Sean Kelly]

I think, like, he's. He was shorter than me, but big. Big fat neck.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Has he reached out to you since all this?

[Sean Kelly]

Well, he apologized. He gave me a fake apology, and then I accepted his fake apology. I took a picture with him. Uh, I said, hey, it's a misunderstanding. Kevin Smith's a good guy. He said, oh, dude, I thought you were the protester. I got confused. And then he later admits that he did know me, and he was like, I. I heard him badmouthing Israel. I got upset, and then I went over and hit him, and I shouldn't have done that. So he. And at first he said. He admitted that he did. In fact, he wasn't confused. He hit me on purpose. And then later that week, I see him gloating about it, like some women are flirting with him on Instagram, saying, great job, Kevin. You hit that Nazi. I'm so proud of you. And he's like, yeah, you're welcome, miss. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. And when I saw him gloating about it, I was pissed. I was like, dude, everyone was begging me to sue you. I didn't do any of that. I told everyone it's a misunderstanding. Yeah, yeah, man. I. I told everyone it's a misunderstanding. Kevin's a good guy. So I found him at amfest, and I told him, like, motherfucker, you cannot brag about this. You cannot. Like, you can't act like what you did was cool. Like, I had your back. Like, you almost. He almost got fired from the New York Young Republicans.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, wow. He works for that company.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, yeah. I was assaulted by one of their staff members.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, you easily could have sued them.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, yeah, I know. He.

[Podcast Host]

At their event, right?

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Kevin has received no punishment So I just told him, like, dude, you cannot brag about this. Fuck you. Because he's also put me in a bad situation. Like, it's not a good position he's. He's put me in. Because now people know they can attack me and go viral for it. Like, I have friends, you know, I. I live with my team. Like, it's just not, you know, we have the second amendment in South Carolina. I'm prepared for whatever. But it wasn't. It just, it's all around, you know, kind of puts me in more danger than I was before. At the same time, it was a wake up call. And I'm grateful because now, now I'm just prepared.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Like, I should have been prepared regardless. But now, now I'm aware of my position.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, your guard was down.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. I'm aware of how famous I am and what all that comes with. Because if you're famous, dog, if someone went and slapped Sean Kelly, it would go viral, probably. Cuz it's Sean Kelly. Sean Kelly got attacked.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Yeah, probably. Well, that sucks. But we'll move on from that anyway.

[Sean Kelly]

No, it's. It's all, it's all good. It's part of my lore now.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I'm sure you'll. And listen, people build brands off this. You know what I mean?

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Everyone hated Neon at first. Everyone hated Jake Paul. People hated Tate. People hated Jack Doherty. You'll be fine in the long run.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, yeah, I'm early. I mean, I'll be around for the next. I'm not going anywhere. I'll be around for the next 10 years or so, so.

[Podcast Host]

Not on YouTube though.

[Sean Kelly]

Not on YouTube. Banned from YouTube. Yeah, I won Anti Semite of the week. And then like a week later I get banned from YouTube. I think it's because I want anti

[Podcast Host]

Semite because I knew they had the yearly one.

[Sean Kelly]

They have a weekly one. Wow.

[Podcast Host]

So what did you tweet that caused that?

[Sean Kelly]

I don't think it was anything in particular. I don't know. I've got, you know, I've gotten hundreds of millions of views saying, Israel did 9 11.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Uh, it's like a trick that I do. I show you a viral video, then I look into the camera and I say, Israel did 9 11. And those videos blew up. Um, so maybe that's why I. I got Anti Semite of the week. Tucker Carlson has won the award. Bunch. Bunch of big names up there. Candace Owens is up there. Oh. Yeah. So, yeah, it's whatever. I. I'm not a hateful person. I have. I do have Jewish friends. I know some great Jewish people. But I do think that. Have an inappropriate amount of power in this country. And I think our country's. I think our government's owned by Israel. And it's. That's all tangent, I guess, but, I

[Podcast Host]

mean, I feel like anti Semite has lost its meaning.

[Sean Kelly]

Absolutely.

[Podcast Host]

Everyone just gets labeled that now.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, yeah, I've been called it. Yeah. Anti Semite. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. Well, you even having me on your show, you don't even have to agree with what I'm saying. The fact you would even talk to someone like that.

[Podcast Host]

Platform.

[Sean Kelly]

You platformed me? Yeah. Are you platformed Myron Gaines, Nick Fuentes? I mean, that's enough to get the label. The word racist has lost its meaning. You know, all. All these words don't mean anything anymore, literally. Yeah, yeah, it's. It's a joke.

[Podcast Host]

Wild times. We're in wild times.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

All the going on in Minnesota, I mean, I. I wonder what's like a distraction versus what's reality these days, you know what I mean?

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, The Minnesota stuff's. I mean, we're just straight up not gonna get mass deportations. We've gotten like, what, 600, 000 deportations, and now they're gonna stop because Renee Good got shot and Zalex Pretty got shot. So no more deportations. Deportations are too cruel. They're too mean. And Trump's kind of surrendering on the subject. And I don't know, I don't think anyone has the stomach for what needs to actually happen. We need, like 30 million people to be deported, and like, that's gonna. Yeah, deportations are ugly.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I don't think they're possible in our current government structure to do whatever you want.

[Sean Kelly]

No. And just the media will get everyone hyped up. I mean, if you're gonna do it, you gotta bring the hammer down. You. All the protesters and the Alex Preddy antagonizing ice, he was kicking out a car tail light like a week before he should have been arrested and, you know, put in jail. I think you just gotta lock it down, shut down the violent people immediately before it gets to a point where they're wrestling you and reaching for their gun or, you know, whatever happened. I think. Yeah, it's. I don't. No one has the stomach. Like, people are upset about Alex Pretty getting shot, and I'm like, you guys don't have the stomach for what needs to happen. We're experiencing something called white genocide. White people used to be 90% of the population in this country now they're 50%. In a couple decades, they're going to be 30% of the population. That's a form of genocide. You know, white people disappearing, and I'm against that. Alex Pretty, Renee Good are for that. ICE is doing what they can to deport illegals. Right. They're trying to slow down the white genocide. They're trying to slow down the replacement of white people in the country. Renee Good. And Alex Pretty said, fuck you, White people should be genocided. So I'm not going to sit here and act like I'm sad that they're gone because they are pro white genocide. So, you know, I just. Maybe that sounds cold, but I. I really think that people are not ready for what actually needs to happen. Yeah, yeah. Mass deportations, like, it's gonna be ugly. People are gonna get their head bonked. I mean. Yeah, like, I'm sorry.

[Podcast Host]

I mean, just being objective. If you're masty boarding tens of millions of people, some will fight back, Right?

[Sean Kelly]

Of course.

[Podcast Host]

So to say no one's gonna get hurt or die, it's kind of unrealistic, I think.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, totally unrealistic. If Trump went in there and shut down the protesters immediately and made an example out of them, I think you could stop the protests, meaning no protesters need to die. But he did not make an example out of it. The protesting's allowed to go on, and then they feel emboldened. Attacking ICE and getting away with it. Kicking out car tail lights and getting away with it. Like, now you feel emboldened. So it was not handled properly. And just the people aren't ready for it. All these right wingers on social media are talking about, this is terrible. Joe Rogan's crying. Have a heart. I don't know if you saw that clip.

[Podcast Host]

Joe Rogan's crying at one.

[Sean Kelly]

It was older. It was an older clip a few months ago, but Joe Rogan was crying, saying, have a heart, man. Crying about the deportations. I'm like, hey, Joe Rogan, you got to grow up in a white country. All these boomers saying, these deportations are too harsh. They got to grow up in a white America. They got to grow up when neighborhoods were safe, when you could afford college, when having a normal job, when you. You could work at Jack in the Box and be able to afford a home. Back in the day. Yeah, all that's gone. And now we have a multicultural America. We have. We're about to have a minority white America, and lots of these minorities groups do not like white people. And these liberal boomers are telling. Calling us racist for wanting to close the borders and wanting to do mass deportations. At the end of the day, I think I blame boomers and I blame liberal whites more than anybody else because liberal white people calling other people racist and it's like, hey bitch, you're white too. Like you're also going to be a hated minority. White people are the only people on the planet that will not take their own side. Mexicans are pro Mexican. You know, black people are pro black. White people are anti white. Like the liberals are. Yeah, the, the white liberals call other white people racist. You know all this. No white liberals, I really, you know, maybe, maybe I know have been getting a lot of heat ever since the October 7th attack, but maybe it's a little bit over exaggerated. Maybe white liberals should get some blame as well. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Well, at least the Jews stick together.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, I know, I know. I, I wish white people had a fraction of the collectivism, collectivist mindset that the Jews have.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. You cannot deny that I hate them or love them.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, they, they have their own backs.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah. A dollar in the Jewish community gets cycled eight times before it leaves.

[Sean Kelly]

Beautiful. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not like that.

[Podcast Host]

Unreal.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, yeah. No, they, they have each other's backs. It's crazy. They're like the most. My problem though is that are the most racist. Basically. They prefer their in group but then they, these liberal will preach to us racism is bad. Racism is bad. And it's like they, they have fascism over in Israel, but then here in America they tell us fascism is evil. Xyz. You can't have fascism for white people.

[Podcast Host]

That's horrible.

[Sean Kelly]

I'm happy for you guys to have fat. And I think the fascism that they do in Israel, it works for them. And I'm happy for you guys. I'm glad you have a government that's. You're a country and you have a government that's probably. I have a white country. Am I allowed to have a government that's pro white? That's all I want. I want a government that's pro white. We have a government right now that is pro, pro black, pro brown. They're anything but pro white. The government hates white people.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, Di. Right.

[Sean Kelly]

That's what DEI is. That's what affirmative action is. White people have had it too good for too long. So we need to give some. We need to put black people at Harvard.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Because otherwise we're racist. It's such a joke. And at the end of the day, it's always anti white. It's anti white people. And then more specifically, anti anti white Christian society, I think.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Sean Kelly]

All the worst people hate Christians is what I've learned.

[Podcast Host]

Got a list of seven names here. I want to get your thoughts on these. On these names. We're going to start off with Erica Kirk. What do you think about her?

[Sean Kelly]

Dude, I think Charlie got played. I think it's really a shame he married an older woman. I think Charlie was a little bit naive. He didn't quite know what he was getting into. Maybe Erica Kirk is a federal agent. Honey pot honey, potentially. And Charlie, you know, he. He thought, oh, this nice girl wants to marry me. I'm. She's cute. Yeah. He probably wanted to get married and have kids. He probably didn't think that hard about it. And I think for Erica Kirk, it was just like a. Did she really love Charlie? It doesn't look like it. I feel like it was just a business deal for her and kind of freaky. Man, if. If my wife was, you know, getting on podcasts and smiling and laughing a week after I died, after I was murdered, I'd be bummed.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Did you see that leaked ZOOM meeting?

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, that was weird.

[Podcast Host]

That was weird. Yeah, that was like four days after, I think.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, she's. Yeah, she's kind of happy about all the donations TP USA is getting. And she's go. She's going right back to the boss girl lifestyle. It just kind of seems like she didn't care about Charlie.

[Podcast Host]

I don't think I'd work for like a month if my wife died just right.

[Sean Kelly]

Right. I mean, you got take some time to mourn. The lack of mourning is really disturbing. That's what all the memes say. Everyone mourns differently. Everyone grieves differently. But is she grieving at all? It doesn't seem like it.

[Podcast Host]

This is an interesting one. People have very mixed opinions. Nick Shirley.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, I haven't looked into him too much. I like what he did. Revealing that fraud in Minnesota, all that Somalian fraud. I. Tyler Oliveira. Something I thought was interesting is he revealed that fraud, and then Tyler Oliveira revealed all the fraud in that Hasidic community. Curious, Joel, did you see that? All these hasidic collecting, section 8 housing vouchers, food stamps, all that stuff not working, just getting benefits from the government for free. And it seems like it's been going on for decades and decades. And then that's. I think it's Tyler Oliveira's best Work ever. And then that story did not get nearly the coverage that Nick Shirley's story got. Not even close. And I think it's because Tyler Oliveira was exposing. And Nick Shirley was exposing blacks and Ra. More protected group than Somalians in this country.

[Podcast Host]

Well, they also control the algorithms.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, that too. Owns Instagram and Facebook.

[Podcast Host]

And now Tik Tok.

[Sean Kelly]

And now Tik Tok.

[Podcast Host]

YouTube, I believe, as well.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, yeah. YouTube, we call it, too. And, yeah, so they. They're not as interest. Oh, this video doesn't make look good. We don't need to push that.

[Podcast Host]

You know, did you see that Twitter algorithm? Someone hacked into it and was seeing which accounts were censored and why. And there was something with the algorithm. If you talk negatively about people.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, yeah. A few weeks ago, even on Twitter. So Elon's in on it too.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Damn.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Bummer, right?

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. You. You can't be that big without making a deal with the.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, you get. You get to a certain level, something's knocking on your door. Oh. Let's be honest.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Yeah. You think Elon got to buy Twitter, no strings attached? No. Now, that being said, Twitter does seem to be the freest of. Yeah. And shout out Mark Zuckerberg. He's an al. I say that Mark Zuckerberg's an alpha male nowadays. Just the fact that he hasn't deleted my Instagram account, I. I think is beautiful.

[Podcast Host]

Who would have thought, right? I think they fucked up so bad during the pandemic, they're like, let me make up for it.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Yeah. They opened the floodgates, and everyone was ready for it. Everyone was excited to be racist openly.

[Podcast Host]

You know, this is an interesting one, too, because I saw you talk a little smack about him. Bryce Crawford.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. You know, I think he's a nice guy, but I think he's. This is my problem with Christians, modern Christians, evangelicals, these mega church Christians, they love Jesus, and that's great. And I agree with them on the Jesus question, but they refuse to talk about white genocide. They refuse to. To talk about. They're wrong about the woman question. And the woman question just being that, like, all the women nowadays are whores.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Sean Kelly]

These pastors are lying to young men. I kind of feel. I looked into. I was talking. I talked a little bit of smack and about Bryce Mitchell, and then I looked into him a little bit more, and I felt kind of bad. Not Bryce Mitchell. Bryce Crawford. I looked into him a little bit more, and I'm like, oh, man. He got. I think what happened is he's a virgin before he got married. I'm looking at the girl he married. She does not appear to be a virgin.

[Podcast Host]

Are you serious?

[Sean Kelly]

You can go look at her Instagram profile. I don't think she's a virgin. So he's a virgin marrying a non virgin. And the pastor at church told him, do it. Yeah, good idea. I would have. As if I was his buddy. I would say, no, dude, this girl's a hoe. You need to have premarital sex. You need to understand what you're getting into. You're going to marry this girl. She's going to be able to control you with sex. I think that Bryce Crawford signed up for a world of hurt. And he has, he has no clue. I'm looking at his, you know, she's posting pictures showing a lot of skin. She's posting pictures on her Instagram where she looks like a hoe. He's not tagged in her bio on Instagram. She has a big popular Instagram. She doesn't post them on it. Like she, Her Instagram very much is for the male gaze. Like he. Bryce Crawford broke the no E Girls rule. So I think he made a mistake in who he chose to marry. And I, I, I, he reminds. I grew up evangelical Christian. I was trying to do the right thing. Wait till you're married to have sex. I lost my virginity when I was 23 years old. I could have lost it sooner. I was trying to wait.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that's pretty late.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Yeah, I made up for it since then. I went on a tear, I racked up. I brought my body count from zero to 80 in, like, five years. Yeah. Yeah. I was saying I was going hard on Hinge back in the day.

[Podcast Host]

So hinge works.

[Sean Kelly]

It used to work hinges. Well, I want to get into be. I want to talk about that in a bit, too. I want to talk about dating apps. Dating apps are dead. But, but back when I was on dating apps, they still worked. Hinge used to work great for me. But the thing about church is they're telling all the young people, wait till you're married to have sex. The issue is that the guys are listening to this advice and the women are not. None of the women at church are virgins. And the guys at church, a lot of them are. A lot of them think waiting till marriage is the right thing to do. And I'm, I'm telling you it's not. I tell guys, you cannot wait till you're married to have sex like these women are. You can't be A virgin guy marrying a non virgin woman, bro.

[Podcast Host]

Because the woman will have too much leverage.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. And she's going to be able to control you. Guys are getting into situations where they marry a woman and then their wife is allowed to deny them sex, which I already think is wrong. Your wife should not be allowed to say no to sex. That being said, at the bare minimum, if your wife says no to sex, you should be allowed to go find sex from another woman and not get hassled for it. Guys are getting into these marriages where their wife can say no to sex and then if they go cheat, the wife divorces them and takes half the stuff that's cucked, bro. At the very least, the rule needs to be if your wife denies you sex, you're allowed to cheat. That, that's the bare minimum. That, that's the deal you need to have going into marriage. Does Bryce Crawford have that set up? You know, I predict Bryce Crawford's gonna end up divorced. He seems like a nice guy. I think his heart's in the right place, but I think that he's asleep. He doesn't talk about white genocide, which I think is like the number one thing you gotta be talking about. And he's, he's wrong about women. He's. He's not educated on the woman question and his marriage shows it. And he's like simping in a lot of these videos. So again, seems like a nice guy. And, and I'm. I'm sure his heart's in the right place. He thinks he's doing the right thing, but he's young and he's just naive. Bryce Crawford, Give me a call. I'd be happy to talk to you and help you out. Actually, I would love to talk to him. I think he messed. I think he got bad advice as far as who he married. I think this girl's.

[Podcast Host]

I think he would sit down with you. I mean he's had the leader of KKK on his show. He's interviewed some of the most controversial people in the world. So let me see if I could set that up for you.

[Sean Kelly]

That'd be amazing. I would love to talk to him.

[Podcast Host]

Another young kid, up and coming kid. I want to get your opinions is clavicular. How do you see his career playing out?

[Sean Kelly]

I think he's hilarious. I think what he's doing so interesting with the looks maxing, taking that, you know, putting on a suit and being well groomed. I would think that, that, that is looks maxing. But he's taking it further. He's doing peptides and hitting his face with a hammer.

[Podcast Host]

He's doing the shin surgery.

[Sean Kelly]

I think that's cra. That's.

[Podcast Host]

You want to do that one?

[Sean Kelly]

No, no, that. Do you see the videos of those guys walking around?

[Podcast Host]

It looks uncomfortable.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Like, if that stuff looks like it, you up for life. You'll never be athletic again. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

You can't play sports.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, I would not do that. What? I do that surgery. So I can be five, nine. Like, no, I'll just. I'll stick to being a short guy. It's fine.

[Podcast Host]

Get the heel inserts.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, I. I can put on a pair of boots and be five, eight. You know, it's. I've been short my whole life. I'm cool with it. But, you know, he's a professional. Looks maxer. If he wants to do. I don't know. That's the one thing. Yeah, I know he's doing meth. You know, whatever. The one thing that scares me for him is the limb lengthening surgery. Yeah, that might do him in. I. I would. I don't know, but it's. He's gonna do what he's gonna do. I like that guy, though. You know, he's. He's out here saying the N word. I think he's a white ass going hard as. Yeah, I think he's weighing half. I think he's been great for the movement.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. He met with Dave Grutman the other day.

[Sean Kelly]

I saw that. I don't even know, but I didn't even know who Dave Grutman was.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, you don't know who that is?

[Sean Kelly]

No.

[Podcast Host]

He runs Miami.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, okay.

[Podcast Host]

He owns Komodo. He owns the clubs, all the top restaurants.

[Sean Kelly]

Okay. Does he speak Spanish?

[Podcast Host]

I don't know.

[Sean Kelly]

Everyone in Miami speaks Spanish. Yeah, Miami's a Latin country.

[Podcast Host]

Whenever I walk around there, I feel like an outlier.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, yeah, you are. Yeah, dude. Miami's just like.

[Podcast Host]

It's like America.

[Sean Kelly]

No, it's not. It's not. Miami's gone. The replacement is complete. In many parts of the country, the replacement is. It's done, it's over.

[Podcast Host]

I mean, do you see that happening in South Carolina, or is everyone pretty white over there?

[Sean Kelly]

South Carolina is mostly white and black. There's some Hispanics, but for the most part, it's just. It's mostly white. And then black people are pretty chill in South Carolina. It's. It's the. Of everywhere I've lived, my favorite blacks have been the blacks in South Carolina. Florida blacks scare me. The Florida blacks are the were the worst blacks I've seen. South Carolina blacks have been the best blacks.

[Podcast Host]

What do you think makes them more chill than other blocks?

[Sean Kelly]

A lot of them I think are, are from South Carolina. And there's just a general friendliness, I think, to that whole state. And there's still plenty of black people out there that are complain about slavery and want reparations and all. When I hear black people asking for reparations, I'm like, okay, you're one of the black people that hates white people. Like I already know everything about you. If you're asking for reparations.

[Podcast Host]

I mean, I could see why they do it because Jewish people are getting them. You know what I mean?

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, yeah, I know. I'm.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, they're probably like, what the fuck, dude?

[Sean Kelly]

Jews are out here getting reparations now. I, I want reparation. Irish people are slaves too. Can I get some repar.

[Podcast Host]

Does that count?

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, yeah. You might add, add some indentured servants or whatever back in the day, but yeah, I don't. Yeah. Seeing those, all those curious. Joel. All on Section 8 housing, it is kind of infuriating. The rest of us work and pay taxes and these people just get money for free for no reason. I actually started a non profit and or now it's a PAC, a political action committee to fight Section 8 housing. Yes. Nobody has done anything like this before. Nobody has taken any serious steps to fight Section 8 housing. We have a website now, stop8 dot vote. You can go there, sign the petition. The goal is to get Section 8 on the ballot in all 50 states. So when you go to vote for governor or president or whoever, one of the things you can vote on is section 8. Do you want section 8 housing in your state? Yes or no? That's the goal of this PAC. So stop8dotvote. This is the first serious attempt that I know of to fight Section 8 housing.

[Podcast Host]

We'll link that below.

[Sean Kelly]

Thank you. Yeah, it's a serious problem you'll have. It happens in South Carolina all the time. You have a beautiful neighborhood and then the government comes in and says, we're going to put public housing right here. So you're gonna have a bunch of unemployed minorities who don't have to pay rent. We're gonna plant them in the middle of your neighborhood. They're gonna live in your neighborhood rent free. Drug addicts, murderers are gonna live down the street from you rent free. You're gonna pay extra taxes so that they can be your neighbors. It's totally disgusting. It's totally unfair. I don't like that anybody doesn't have to pay their own rent. Everybody should be working. Like the fact, even if you're getting these housing vouchers, you should be required to pick up trash or I mean something. What you see in many parts of South Carolina is black people who don't have jobs. They sit on the porch all day and just smoke cigarettes and smoke weed and holler at people walking by. And it's kind of ridiculous. There's like really nice neighborhoods that just get totally trashed. And you have like, you know, ghetto black people hanging out in areas that without Section 8 housing, these black people would not exist here. Downtown Charleston, South Carolina would basically have no black people if it weren't for Section 8 housing.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Sean Kelly]

So it's a crime. What I say about it is that Section 8 housing is terrorism on white people. That's an inflammatory way of saying it, but really, Section 8 housing is terrorism on anyone that pays their own rent. If you pay your own, if you have a job and you pay your own way, do you want to live next to people who don't work and get benefits from the government, you know, who have. The government pays their rent for free?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

Do you want those people to move in next to you?

[Podcast Host]

Probably not.

[Sean Kelly]

Probably not. Right. And it takes the value of your own home as well. You have a beautiful neighborhood that's been built up over decades. The government comes in and says, we're putting Section 8 right down the street from you. The value of your home tanks 40%.

[Podcast Host]

I'm surprised homeowners haven't sued the government.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, they tried to. You can look up in Florence, South Carolina, there's this country club. The government came in and said, we're adding section 8 down the street from you. All these white people at this country club try and fight it. They say, no, you're going to ruin our neighborhood. They try and fight it and they lose. So the Section 8 housing is coming to Florence, South Carolina. And even better, now the government is suing all the residents in this country club for racism.

[Podcast Host]

No way.

[Sean Kelly]

For trying. Oh, you don't want Section 8 housing down the street from you. You're racist. So for trying to fight it, these people are now getting sued.

[Podcast Host]

Crazy. Because a lot of people's biggest net worth is in the real estate.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

If it goes down 10, 20, 30, 40%.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, it's devastating. You've been, you, you got robbed. You just got. It's a, it's a multi billion dollar scam. And people are having their lives Destroyed their net worth destroyed over this Section 8 housing there, you know, there's these people that don't work getting to live in your neighborhood rent free, and then there's a few rich landlords benefiting off of it. But basically anybody that pays their own rent should be against section 8 housing. It's a plague on this country. So stop 8 vote. People are affected by section 8 housing and don't even know it. You know, many parts of LA have section 8 housing. You, you might have section 8 housing neighbors and not even realizing you could have better neighbors, you could have cheaper rent if you didn't have these section 8 people taking up rooms that they otherwise couldn't afford. You know. Yeah, there's an unlimited amount of problem. It also makes stability impossible. You can go build a nice beautiful neighborhood and at any time the government can come in and bomb it with a bunch of section 8 nigs. And you know, it makes, and there's white people on Section 8 too. You know, I'm being hyperbolic, but, but not really though. Like you, at any time the government can come destroy your neighborhood and there's nothing you can do about it. This is what Section 8 housing is, is everyone. Unless you're a landlord that rents to Section 8 tenants or you're someone on Section 8 yourself, you should be against Section 8. Basically 95% of the US population, if they understood what Section 8 is and what it does, I think the vast, vast majority of people in this country would oppose Section 8.

[Podcast Host]

Why would you want your own real estate value going down? You know what I mean? Makes no sense. How often you saying the N word? You dropping it pretty, pretty casually these days.

[Sean Kelly]

You know, I say I, I almost never use the hard R. Yeah. Not because I'm like scared to. Well, if I'm in the wrong room, maybe I don't.

[Podcast Host]

You dropped it on Fresh and Fit.

[Sean Kelly]

I yelled it on Fresh and Fit. That was fun. But I actually prefer to say with an A at the end. I, I like, I like it more that way. And it's just a word. I don't know, I don't even feel that strong. I have black friends. I, I know some, plenty of great black people. It's not that deep, but that's like my, that's, it's basically my favorite word.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that's like your homie, your brother.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. What my, I have a cat. I say hey to the cat.

[Podcast Host]

Is he a black cat?

[Sean Kelly]

Orange cat. Okay, but, but he's still my, you know. Yeah, I, I, it's A term of endearment. It's. It's casual. I just. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Well, dude, this was great. I want to set up a debate for you this year.

[Sean Kelly]

Who. Who am I to be? I'm not really a debater, but I don't.

[Podcast Host]

Maybe a feminist.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, yeah. Maybe I could debate a woman of girl. An of girl. I'd debate. No. Yeah, yeah, that'd be good.

[Podcast Host]

I'll set one up.

[Sean Kelly]

Okay.

[Podcast Host]

You could hold your own. We'll work your way up to being able to debate Destiny.

[Sean Kelly]

Perfect. Destiny's scared. Well, he's a Prof. I'm just a content creator. Destiny's like a debater, and he's actually good, too.

[Podcast Host]

No, he is like 90 of what he says, but by the end of the debate, I'm like, okay, he made some good points.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah. Well, that's what's so scary about him, is that he can, like. Yeah, I don't. I don't agree with any of most of anything of what he's saying.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Sean Kelly]

From the clips that I see of him, but he somehow is able to make people look stupid. I'm watching it. Like, I don't know. He would somehow destroy me. I don't even know how he would. He would. He would get me somehow. But, yeah, I'm just not a debater. It's not my world. But I would talk to. Yeah. I don't know. I would duke it out with an only fans girl.

[Podcast Host]

You did good on Fresh and Fit. I watched some of that episode.

[Sean Kelly]

Oh, thank you. Well, I wasn't really debating. I was. I think I was just taught. But yeah, debating women's easy, though, I guess. Yeah. I would debate a woman for sure.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Because you view men as superior.

[Sean Kelly]

Yeah, basically. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, men are. Yeah. We're smarter. We do everything women should not. They're here to have babies, bro. I love women. Women are hot. But we don't need girl bosses. The economy's fake. The jobs are fake. You got women thinking they're, like, hot stuff. And really, they're just like.

[Podcast Host]

I try to be objective. Like, I look at it all. The best chess players are men. Poker players are men. Inventions, mainly men. So I try to be objective. And when you say these facts, some of them get pissed.

[Sean Kelly]

Before. Wait, sorry. Before we wrap up, I gotta pitch my Discord. Oh, let's do it, woman. Propaganda.com, if you want to join my Discord. We teach people how to make content, faceless content, how to make money on YouTube. So we're teaching content creators, training content creators and we just brought on a seasoned red pill Dating coach. The dating apps are dead. Some guy did an experiment recently, made a profile as like an ugly woman on hinge and within 24 hours he has 2000 likes on his profile. Holy. Meaning that the hinge is just. It's just done. I mean if you're a top 1% guy in looks, maybe you can do all right on Hinge. But basically the dating apps are dead. The women are not on the dating apps. The last thing you have as a man is the in person method. Just cold approach. And guys are scared of doing that nowadays. Guys are scared of getting called creepy. Lots of guys have never tried a cold approach in their whole entire life. We are teaching how to cold approach inside the discord. It's called the we have modern life dating mld. He's our dating coach. He's teaching the approach anywhere method. Basically how to pick a woman that would be good to approach and how to approach or have a conversation that could lead to getting laid or dating or could lead to you getting married. Whatever you're going for. Yeah, we're teaching you how to get

[Podcast Host]

women much needed skill these days.

[Sean Kelly]

Much needed. Guys need help with this stuff. Join the woman Propaganda Discord and we will teach you how to get laid.

[Podcast Host]

We'll link that below.

[Sean Kelly]

Thank you, woman propaganda dot com. You can also text me 206-426-7968. Text me if you want to join the Discord. I'm responding to everybody on my new phone number and yeah, but if you join my Discord, we will show you how to get laid even if you're ugly.

[Podcast Host]

Check out the Discord, guys. I'll see you all next time. Peace. Thanks for watching to the end, guys. Please comment below your thoughts on the episode if you agree. If you disagree, I'd love to hear. I read every single comment. Means a lot to me. Thank you so much.