
🎓 Is the traditional school system holding your child back from reaching their full potential? Discover why one mother of 8 chose to completely bypass the conventional education system - and how her children are thriving because of it. In...
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Emma
I really am looking at families becoming more united.
Sarah
Yeah.
Emma
Mind, body and spirit. And then relationally.
Sarah
Do you think the government's overstepped?
Emma
Absolutely. I want to tell a parent when I sit with them, like who told you that they had your child's best interest? So why would you leave your kids with them the majority of the day? Because this is what the good parent does and that's what they have put into people to society really. They put it into the heart minded people that they know it's best and it's a lie.
Sarah
All right, guys. AM Fest Day 3 Emma, Sarah here today. Thanks for hopping on.
Emma
Thank you.
Sarah
Yeah. How's the event been for you?
Emma
It's phenomenal. This is, this is a place to be if you, you know, if you are into freedom and fighting for that freedom. It's definitely a place to be.
Sarah
Absolutely. Do you live in Phoenix?
Emma
I know, but it used to be a second home. We used to vacation here every year, but I live in Alabama.
Sarah
Okay. Alabama.
Emma
Yes.
Sarah
Wow. I did not, not expect that answer.
Emma
I was originally from California, so.
Sarah
Okay. That's a big change.
Emma
Yeah. This is a later in life thing. Yes.
Sarah
You couldn't handle the, the liberal policies over there.
Emma
Actually, I was. When I left California, I had just gotten married and moved to Greece. So it was more like, you know, just starting my life.
Sarah
Wow. I am a big fan of Greece. I. I've been to Crete and Athens.
Emma
Okay, great.
Sarah
When I was a kid, when I was a young boy. But it was a good time.
Emma
Nice. One of my, one of my kids was born in Greece.
Sarah
Oh. Yeah.
Emma
I would live there for three years.
Sarah
Nice. Yeah. Some of the best food I've ever had is Greece.
Emma
Yes. I came back cooking it for a while there and then I for. I forgot. So I need to go back to that. Yeah, yeah.
Sarah
No seed oils.
Emma
Thank you for reminding me that. Yes. Olive Oil.
Sarah
Best olive oil I've ever had. Oh, my God. We were getting it straight from the.
Emma
Top in Greece when I first got married. I went over there and my husband was in the military and I used to just go float all day and, you know, see and go on all the. The tavernas and. Yeah, I was pretty cool. All the historical sites.
Sarah
Were you traveling a lot because your husband was military?
Emma
Yes, I was island hopping and doing all that thing.
Sarah
Yes.
Emma
It was cool.
Sarah
How was that?
Emma
Amazing. It was phenomenal. I never got to see Santorini. If I could go back, I wish I would have, you know, hit that.
Sarah
You still got time.
Emma
I do, that's true.
Sarah
So your big mission now is connection, Connecting people. Right. Uniting people together.
Emma
Yes. As family, specifically. I have a family of 10. I have eight kids.
Sarah
Wow.
Emma
From the ages of 6 to 25.
Sarah
Holy crap.
Emma
And I always say God had a sense of humor and wanted to show that through Emma Sarah's life. I was a woman who never wanted to have kids. Told my fiance, no kids in your future. He said, okay. Year later, he was like, I kind of want kids. And I was like, well, you're kind of a liar. So. And at that time, you know, I didn't know everything that I do now, so I had a different mindset. But one thing I haven't changed about myself then is that I didn't want to have kids because I thought the world was too evil. And it is. And so it was more from a protection mindset. And when he changed his mind, I had to do some soul searching, a lot of praying. And I really just felt like God put it in my heart that it wasn't that he wasn't doing his job to protect kids, it was that parents weren't being aware enough. And so really early on, I made the decision if I'm going to have kids, that I'm going to do my best to protect them. And so now I raise these eight kids who, you know, are my co host to my TV show, Ignite Voices, or we host political figures, influencers, different people of all walks of life in a commonality, you know, fighting for freedom.
Sarah
That's awesome. Yeah. Eight kids is rare these days. I feel like baby boomers, that was more normal. But I haven't heard anyone of our era, like having eight kids.
Emma
Yeah. And I mean, and then there's a stigma. You know, if you think about big families, you're thinking about a specific kind of looking, homely looking family. But we, we kind of break every single mold. And I kind of like it that way.
Sarah
Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of molds. Right. And they're trying to break the family unit that's there that's been under attack the past few years.
Emma
Oh, absolutely. I mean, I think for decades. Not decades, really. I mean, yes, decades, for sure. But the indoctrination of the school is real. And part of that indoctrination and part of the plan, I would say, of public education was to make people feel like the government was supreme over children to the point where we're at a place in society where everybody is so disconnected and within us, there's something that's beyond us, that we want to be a part of something. Or it's gotten to the place where government is disconnected people from their mind, body, and, like, spirit. It's like a disconnected of a person. We're supposed to be whole. And when people are mentally sick or they're physically sick, they need somebody to help them. So I feel like the government has gotten people so sick and disconnected with their cells, disconnected with their children. You know, parents are disconnected with their children. The government's come in and said, like, we are the ones that have the. All the. Are the answers to your problems. We have the education, we have the health. You know, take these vacs. You know, this is the curriculum for you. And so this year going into 2025, I really am looking at families becoming more united.
Sarah
Yeah.
Emma
Mind, body, and spirit.
Sarah
And then relationally, do you think the government's overstepped?
Emma
Absolutely. Absolutely. I want to tell a parent when I sit with them, like, who told you that they had your child's best interests in their mind? Who told you that they know what's best for your children? They don't know what's best for your children. And they don't have this just in.
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Emma
So why would you leave your kids with them the majority of the day? Because this is what the good parent does and that's what they have put into people to society really. They put it into the heart minded people that they know it's best and it's a lie.
Sarah
Yeah, I don't think the mindset should be to rely on the government for anything, honestly.
Emma
Absolutely.
Sarah
Maybe just safety when it comes to military, but other than that like and.
Emma
You know, it depends on this is like with this administration, why I'm so happy that we have who we have, you know, coming into office, because they are concerned about borders. They're concerned about our military, not just protecting our border, but our men.
Sarah
Yeah.
Emma
When you have an administration who doesn't care about borders or our military, then we can be concerned about if they're making the right safety decision. That's a sign up.
Sarah
You mentioned school earlier. Did you send your kids to public school?
Emma
I have never set them in school a single day.
Sarah
Wow. All eight of them.
Emma
All eight of them.
Sarah
So you knew from early on because this, I feel like this is a newer movement where parents aren't doing that.
Emma
I didn't know. I was only. My mom was only 14 when she had me. And so I was born on the wrong side of the tracks and from a family that is still today having kids in their teenage years. So I also have a foundation, Mother of Change foundation. And a Mother of change is a chain breaker and a change maker. And so I've kind of combined two TV shows, Mother of Change show and a foundation and Ignite Voices. So one show is for the mothers who are struggling to give them hope, to give them some help. But then we have Ignite Voices, which is going to the individual people to give them information, to make sound choices. So when I was younger and having these kids, I had, I made one decision. I'm going to have kids, I'm going to protect them. And when I raise them, we're going to do the same for others and we're going to help other families to be informed and to be aware, to be connected and to go out and like make this whole movement of families who are connected and united.
Sarah
Yeah. What's your strategy when it comes to social media regulation with your kids?
Emma
So all my kids do not have. My younger kids do not have a phone. My oldest son, who is now 22, who's a Rocket engineer, started to fly a plane before he ever drew, drove a car. He did not have a, you know, he had a flip phone until he was 21.
Sarah
Wow.
Emma
Yeah. And so you know, where my kids don't play video games. If they play video games. All of them have really high accolades, every single one of them, and have broken world records on different things.
Sarah
Well done.
Emma
And we've done that. Not because I'm some great. See, I want to tell the parents out there, I'm not some super, you know, intelligent woman. I'm just a woman who sees my kids gifts, gives them the right tools. It's all about giving them the right tools and they have all stored in each of their callings and they're all different. I don't care what they do for school as long as they can read, write and do arithmetic, then they do all kinds of fun stuff that helps them learn.
Sarah
So nice. That's a smart strategy rather than just a cookie cutter strategy.
Emma
Yeah. Who cares if they can pass the test if they're not going to remember it? Remember that show Smarter than their fifth grader?
Sarah
Yeah, that was a good show.
Emma
When I watched that show, I threw out the whole curriculum idea and I was like, these adults who are now successful don't remember what the fifth graders. So why do I even care what they're learning if it's not going to benefit them?
Sarah
Yeah.
Emma
So now, I mean, one of my sons when he was 13, was one of the youngest AWS certified individuals in the world, you know, and that was because he just spent time doing what he loves.
Sarah
Yeah.
Emma
You know, and so instead of video games, they do programming to learn how to build planes and engineering and actually build video games as opposed to playing them.
Sarah
Wow, that's impressive. And were you homeschooling them or.
Emma
Oh, I mean, like, so they. All my kids can do things I cannot do. So like I said, it wasn't me being the teacher. I say, you can read. This is how I raise my kids. I teach them read. And then I say, you're the teacher. Okay. I'm just here to answer some questions and give you the tools you teach yourself. And so all my kids are completely 100. I had a kid who at 7 in prayer I heard to give get him into organic chemistry. Okay. Gave him the right tools. In six months he was assessed at a Harvard level, college level of a 25 year old at 7 years old of organic chemistry, never had a tutor. And I'm telling you, it's because each one of us is wired. It's not what you teach me, it's about what I need to learn.
Sarah
Yeah. And think about the head start these kids are getting because instead of 22 years of school where they're getting set back, you're starting them at seven years old. I mean.
Emma
Oh yeah. Like, so my kids, when I found out they could graduate early, I had two kids graduated at 16. One got herself into Liberty University at 16.
Sarah
Wow.
Emma
And you know what? The reason I graduated her earlier is because she hated high school and she didn't really want to do the work and she was a great entrepreneur. I was closing, you know, like $10,000 sales deals. And I was like, you're an entrepreneur. You want to graduate. You're not doing great at it. Do you want to. You know who says that you're not doing great at it? Do you want to graduate? And I said, are you ready to go to the next level? And I said, just do. If you can test out for this math and you can do the SAT or whatever, you know, requirements. I gave her some requirements, then you can graduate. And this is a funny thing, is she didn't want to do school. Hi, Captain girl. Okay. At 16, I graduated her, and within two months, all of a sudden, she said she wanted to get into college. And I was like, I thought you didn't even like school. But it was because she made the decision, because I didn't force her to do school. She wanted to now do school. And I never. I didn't do any of the paperwork. She got herself into Liberty University, just told me what to do. She's a teacher. I'm the assistant. And gave her the right documents, and she got herself into Liberty University.
Sarah
That's phenomenal. Yeah. I'm glad the judgment's changing around homeschooling and private schooling.
Emma
Absolutely.
Sarah
Because before, when I was growing up, you would get really judged and ridiculed. It's probably still like that a little bit, but it's changing for sure.
Emma
Absolutely. Yeah. And it is. And that's the cool thing, is that. And you don't have the. There's no more cookie cutter for what a homeschooler looks like anymore. Now, people after 2020 with remote schooling is what they were calling it. It's homeschooling. Like, sure, it's remote, but it's not crazy anymore.
Sarah
I just had Erica Donald's on yesterday. She's doing VR schooling for kids she knows.
Emma
Really?
Sarah
Yeah.
Emma
I haven't. I haven't gone that. I haven't looked in that. I don't know how I feel about that, honestly. But, I mean, if it's working for a family, I wouldn't ever put it down.
Sarah
I mean, I think anything's better than public school.
Emma
Yeah. I mean, honestly, not that my kids wouldn't probably. I'm. I'm not going to say they might end up doing it. I thought MSR said, I don't know. I'm open. Yeah.
Sarah
What's next for you?
Emma
I'm sorry, what's next for you?
Sarah
What's.
Emma
What's next for me? This next year, we're just going to go hard with our TV show growing our following we have network deals for. We're already on networks, but we're just growing. Ignite Voices TV. My sons are so like 6 to 22. So we have entrepreneurship. So one of my 18 year olds, he has a job, but he just launched his own company and, you know, made his cash this month, which was exciting. And I have another son who is starting. He's building air airplanes. So he just started and launched that. So right now, my focus as a parent. Okay. Is to help my kids excel in there. And this is what I need you guys need to know is that I'm talking about unity in 2025. You don't. And this is the thing is you don't have to make your kids do things. Right. You can do things together that are like a passion. Okay? So we come together and I tell them, what is your passion? We have a mission statement for our family. We work with high energy and integrity to provide resources and tools for life. Right? And so everything we do is that's the united place that we're doing. But then each one of them had their individuals. I'm not trying to make them just stay and do what Emma Sarah is doing. So what I want to tell parents is your kids can flourish. They can build their own companies, they can have their own kingdoms when they get married. But it's so beautiful that they'll always have something together, united. So that way, you know, their kids will have something united. So this is like the. I wouldn't say the side thing because it is really main, but at the same time, I'm giving my sons the ability to do things on their own. So we're going to come together as a family, take the resources and tools to give to families, to be united and undivided. And I really would love to get on a TED Talk this next year and just give this message, like, who told you that education was the best for your child and you really can do it.
Sarah
Yeah.
Emma
I say if Emma Sarah can get all this great results, anybody can, because I'm not patient. My kids are way smarter than I am. And, you know, and if they say, well, it's great, you must have a lot of cash. When we made, we. We have a whole testimony, okay? We made 26,000 in 2018 for a family of 10. We were in the desert, we were in an RV, like, a whole calamity happened to our family. Everything was stripped from us overnight. So everything we built is, since 2019, like, everything that we have built. And so during that time, my son got like $200 playing lessons when we were broke. Broke. I mean, where there's a will, there's a way. So we just kept on looking for opportunities for our kids to learn. And people want your kids to grow and learn so you get connected with other people who want to sew into your kids as well. And so that's my real like, you know, what's next? It's not even about me. It's about what our family's going to do for everybody else. George Washington Carver said he wanted to be the greatest good to the greatest amount of people. And so what's next for me is to be the greatest good to the greatest amount of people. And we're doing that through Ignite Voices and through the Mother of Change Foundation.
Sarah
Beautiful. We'll link the foundation and the show below. Thanks for coming on.
Emma
Thank you so much.
Sarah
Absolutely.
Emma
They can find me@ignitevoices.com right? Thank you. Sa sa sa sa sa sa sa sa.
Digital Social Hour: Why School is Killing Your Child's Future Success | EmmaSara McMillion DSH #1070
Release Date: January 7, 2025
In episode #1070 of Digital Social Hour, host Sean Kelly engages in a profound conversation with guest EmmaSara McMillion DSH. The discussion delves into the detrimental impacts of traditional schooling on children's future success and explores alternative approaches to education and family unity. Throughout the episode, EmmaSara shares her personal journey, parenting philosophies, and initiatives aimed at empowering families to take control of their children's education and overall well-being.
EmmaSara opens up about her diverse life experiences, including living in Greece during her early marriage and raising a large family in Alabama. She emphasizes the importance of family unity, stating:
EmmaSara (04:39): “God had a sense of humor and wanted to show that through Emma Sara's life. I was a woman who never wanted to have kids. Told my fiancé, no kids in your future...”
Despite initial reservations about parenthood, EmmaSara experienced a profound change in mindset, leading her to embrace motherhood with eight children ranging from ages 6 to 25. This personal transformation underscores her commitment to protecting and empowering her children against societal challenges.
A significant portion of the conversation addresses EmmaSara's critical view of government overreach in education and its impact on family dynamics:
EmmaSara (05:15): “I think the indoctrination of the school is real. And part of that indoctrination and part of the plan, I would say, of public education was to make people feel like the government was supreme over children...”
She argues that public education fosters dependency on government institutions, disrupting the essential connection between parents and children. EmmaSara believes that this system disconnects individuals from their mind, body, and spirit, leading to societal fragmentation.
EmmaSara champions homeschooling as a viable and superior alternative to traditional schooling. She highlights the flexibility and personalized approach that homeschooling offers, allowing children to pursue their passions and excel without being confined to a standardized curriculum.
EmmaSara (09:31): “I have never set them in school a single day. All eight of them.”
She shares inspiring anecdotes of her children’s achievements, such as her oldest son becoming a rocket engineer and another building airplanes, achieved through self-directed learning and hands-on experiences. EmmaSara emphasizes that education should be about what children need to learn rather than adhering to outdated educational standards.
EmmaSara outlines her holistic approach to parenting and education, focusing on providing the right tools and fostering an environment where children can thrive independently:
EmmaSara (10:32): “I'm not some great. See, I want to tell the parents out there, I'm not some super, you know, intelligent woman. I'm just a woman who sees my kids' gifts, gives them the right tools.”
Key strategies include:
Limiting Screen Time: Her younger children do not have phones, and video game time is restricted and purposeful.
Encouraging Early Specialization: Children are encouraged to pursue their interests from a young age, leading to early certifications and entrepreneurial ventures.
Flexible Educational Milestones: Allowing children to graduate early if they demonstrate proficiency, as seen with EmmaSara's daughters who graduated at 16 and secured university placements independently.
EmmaSara discusses her endeavors beyond her family, including her TV show Ignite Voices and the Mother of Change Foundation. These platforms aim to support and inspire other families to adopt similar educational philosophies and foster unity.
EmmaSara (15:39): “What's next for me is to be the greatest good to the greatest amount of people. And we're doing that through Ignite Voices and through the Mother of Change Foundation.”
Her mission is to create a movement of connected and united families, providing resources and tools to ensure children can flourish outside the constraints of traditional educational systems.
EmmaSara on Government Overreach:
“Who told you that they had your child's best interests in their mind?... They put it into the heart-minded people that they know it's best and it's a lie.” (05:15)
On Homeschooling Outcomes:
“It's all about giving them the right tools and they have all stored in each of their callings and they're all different.” (10:04)
On Family Mission:
“We work with high energy and integrity to provide resources and tools for life.” (14:20)
On Resilience and Adaptability:
“When there's a will, there's a way. So we just kept on looking for opportunities for our kids to learn.” (15:40)
EmmaSara McMillion DSH presents a compelling argument against traditional schooling, advocating for a more personalized, family-centered approach to education. Her experiences and successes serve as a testament to the potential of homeschooling and alternative educational strategies in fostering resilient, intelligent, and independent individuals. Through her initiatives like Ignite Voices and the Mother of Change Foundation, EmmaSara is paving the way for a new generation of empowered families committed to unity and self-reliance.
For listeners seeking inspiration and practical insights into redefining education and strengthening family bonds, this episode of Digital Social Hour offers a wealth of knowledge and motivation.
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