Why Self-Sufficiency is the Future of Living | Owen Benjamin DSH #1175

Summary

Digital Social Hour

Episode: Why Self-Sufficiency is the Future of Living | Owen Benjamin DSH #1175
Release Date: February 11, 2025
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Owen Benjamin

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1. Embracing Self-Sufficiency

Owen Benjamin kicks off the discussion by highlighting the merits of self-sufficient living. He emphasizes the importance of producing one's own food and resources, contrasting it with modern dependency on centralized systems.

• Owen Benjamin [00:00]: "own a company that makes the thing I'm telling you to study."
• Owen Benjamin [02:09]: "Men are about, are you good at something? Are you cool? Can I trust you? And together it makes a good family, you know?"

2. Transition from Hollywood to Homesteading

Owen delves into his personal journey from a Hollywood career to embracing the homestead lifestyle. He discusses the challenges he faced with mainstream platforms and how rejection led him to build his own self-sustaining life.

• Owen Benjamin [07:02]: "I started butting heads with mainstream culture a little more."
• Owen Benjamin [10:07]: "I built our house. We're in now, and we don't have to be landlords. It was like, awesome."

3. Critique of Modern Society and Censorship

The conversation shifts to Owen's views on social media censorship and the declining state of free speech. He criticizes major platforms for their selective censorship and shares his experiences of being banned from services like Airbnb and YouTube.

• Owen Benjamin [12:04]: "They always censor. It's just like, are they censoring the good? Like, something that is helpful?"
• Owen Benjamin [13:00]: "But I'm not lying. I can be wrong all the time, but when you see the fundamentals are just all not there, it's crazy."

4. Exploring Conspiracy Theories

Owen opens up about his interest in various conspiracy theories, ranging from the authenticity of the moon landing to the reality of pandas. He shares his skepticism towards established historical narratives and scientific consensus.

• Owen Benjamin [24:10]: "Once I started seeing what's capable and like what social engineering is and all that, that's when I started questioning."
• Owen Benjamin [46:28]: "I think they're real the way a shih tzu dog is real. You know how you guys made the shih tzu dog?"

5. The Impact of Dependency on Systems

Owen discusses the vulnerabilities inherent in modern society's dependency on centralized systems for essentials like food, water, and energy. He warns of potential societal collapse if these systems fail and underscores the need for individual and community resilience.

• Owen Benjamin [32:35]: "We rely on air conditioning, energy, food, gas. You're all depending on someone else."
• Owen Benjamin [33:21]: "We're nine meals away from revolution at all times."

6. Personal Anecdotes and Future Plans

Wrapping up, Owen shares personal anecdotes about his family's life on the homestead, his return to teaching piano, and his commitment to fostering self-reliance. He also touches upon his plans to create more independent platforms free from mainstream media constraints.

• Owen Benjamin [37:00]: "Now we have four kids, single income, like, my wife's a stay at home mom."
• Owen Benjamin [53:21]: "My newest one is completely clean. It's like family friendly, which again, clean is the future after I went through the end wars."

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Notable Quotes

• On Self-Sufficiency:
  Owen Benjamin [01:13]: "You're what you eat, eats. So it's like, you know, your cow eats the grass. The grass is grown from the soil, the water."

• On Censorship:
  Owen Benjamin [12:18]: "They'll always censor. It's just like, are they censoring the good? Like, something that is helpful?"

• On Conspiracies:
  Owen Benjamin [26:04]: "There's huge bombs. But think about it. What's the evidence of fallout radiation from nuclear bombs? There's none."

• On Dependency:
  Owen Benjamin [32:42]: "Big armies don't really go to small towns. They go to, like, big cities."

• On Personal Transformation:
  Owen Benjamin [37:25]: "We sell them directly on my website. My newest one is completely clean. It's like family friendly, which again, clean is the future after I went through the end wars."

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Conclusion

In this episode of Digital Social Hour, Owen Benjamin provides a compelling narrative on the importance of self-sufficiency in today's volatile world. From his personal shift away from a high-profile career to embracing a homestead lifestyle, Owen underscores the necessity of independence and resilience. He challenges mainstream narratives, advocates for personal responsibility, and offers insightful critiques of societal dependencies and censorship. Whether you agree with his perspectives or not, Owen's candid and passionate dialogue offers a thought-provoking exploration of living autonomously in the modern age.

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Keep Up with Owen Benjamin:

• Website: OwenBenjamin.com
• Twitter: @owenbenjamin / @Bertari
• Piano Lessons: Available through his website (link to Calendly can be added)

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Transcript

[A]

Like a million dollars. And I'm like, own a company that makes the thing I'm telling you to study.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You know, it's usually not super direct because that's just like criminal fraud, but it's almost like the grants at universities where it's just like, implied. Or like, in Hollywood, it's who gets the development deal, like, and then you just see what the behavior is and then you mimic.

[B]

All right, guys, Owen Benjamin here, one of the most canceled people on the Internet. Right, thanks.

[A]

At one point. Yeah, at one point. I think that's turning around, though. I think the world kind of caught up to some of my wild thoughts.

[B]

Yeah, you were like five years ahead of everyone.

[A]

Yeah, I think so. And then there's people way ahead of me, too. It's not like, you know, I'm starting to see that the past is the future. You know, I might just go full Amish. I think they're. I think they're the most cutting edge guys out there.

[B]

I mean, no mental health issues. They seem pretty happy.

[A]

Yeah, they. They make all their own stu. You know, they got horses.

[B]

I mean, I get my dogs from Amish, man. They make the best dogs.

[A]

What kind of dogs?

[B]

We got a Australian shepherd and a golden retriever.

[A]

Nice, man.

[B]

But we went up to pa. I used to live in Jersey, so we went up to pa, got them, and just witnessing their lifestyle, I was like, this is not bad, you know?

[A]

Yeah, I love seeing like a nine year old skin in a raccoon to, like, sell it to a Chinese market or something. It's just. They're so. You know, my kids are like that living on a homestead too. They're kind of like, more advanced than I was at that age when it comes to just being like, adults. Yeah, you know, they still have that innocence of kids, but they can just, you know, kill a chicken and eat it at eight.

[B]

Wow. Eight years old. That's impressive. Yeah, the homestead lifestyle is appealing. At the same time, you still need to make money though, right?

[A]

Yeah. It can all start blending together. Right. When I was talking to your buddy out there, it's funny how in the last special, I did a bit about how I don't even know what I say, what I do for a living. It's almost like I sound like a mob guy, you know, where you can mix so many things together now. And I just think things are going more local and more decentralized that, you know, like, I can sell butter to premium from my. From my cows, and then I can do my podcast from Home and all that.

[B]

Oh, wow. How does one make butter? I'm interested in that process.

[A]

Ah, dude, I. I could talk about this forever. I mean, my wife just did a. A class on how to make cheddar because it's so interesting. Like the metaphors and the fractals for society. That's. That's where my brain goes, is. Is just fascinating. You know, the cream rises. All those. All those, like, sayings that everyone. No one knows where they come from. It all comes from farming. Like, your cow kicks the bucket or the cream rises or all that. So you take the cream and then you just churn it until it's butter.

[B]

Oh, that's it.

[A]

That's it.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Yeah. But the type of. But you want raw A2. A2 milk from, like, a Jersey cow. Like, a lot of cream. And the. The milk in the stores. I mean, this whole podcast could just be about milk. Like, I think milk is great. The milk in the store is. It's homogenized and pasteurized, so it's like, there's no cream wine. It's just all mixed and burned, and so you can't really do much with it. That's. I'm a big. Straight from the teat guy.

[B]

Yeah. I'm on the raw milk wave.

[A]

Good.

[B]

When I'm at Whole Foods, I only buy cheese if it's raw.

[A]

Good. That's what we make, too.

[B]

Yeah. Because you look at the ingredients on the shredded ones, it's like a bunch of shit you can't even pronounce.

[A]

Yeah. And those cows are just. I think you can taste it in the. In the meat or the milk. It's like they're. They lived a horrible life. It's like stress and chemicals.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

My animals are happy.

[B]

I do believe there's an energetic component to food. Like, you're eating quality food. Like, that affects you.

[A]

I think it's the entire thing. I think that's like. So I think that's the root of so many problems. It goes all the way down to soil because it's. You are what you eat, eats. So it's like, you know, your cow eats the grass. The grass is grown from the soil, the water. I mean, it's so basic that it's mind blowing to someone like me that wasn't raised on a farm, you know?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. People got to realize if they're eating fast food and like, oh, it's like.

[A]

Just raw cancer, you know?

[B]

I know, right? Hopefully with Maha, things change, though.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Excited for that movement.

[A]

Yeah. I hope they. I Hope that they show people that they have to do it, no one else. That's the fundamental shift that has to happen. I love, like, I'm friends with a lot of those guys and it's like, but it's all about like, no one's coming to help you. You gotta do it, you gotta grow it. And it's like you can do it in an apartment. You can just grow anything in your window. But just that empowering thing is what health is about.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, it was cool. We were talking before this. You said if the grocery stores went out of business, you would be fine.

[A]

Yeah, my whole area, it wouldn't even notice. I mean it would be weird, but we're very self sustaining, you know, I.

[B]

Want to live in a community, community like that when I have kids. For sure.

[A]

Yeah. That's what got me outta la. It was like when I had my first son, I, I just knew that that environment wasn't right for a family.

[B]

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[A]

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[A]

And I'm like, but there's like a dead guy right there. You know, this is not, this is not a place for a kid.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I wanted them to like really know people and understand trust and, and so yeah, the rest is history. And then when we left, I was still repped at CAA and everything, but my view of the world started changing a little because I was in a more small town environment. And that's when I started butting heads with mainstream culture a little more.

[B]

That makes sense. So would you say when you were living in LA you were a little brainwashed? A little.

[A]

I was just more. Yeah. I think right wing, left wing is so urban, rural. Like think about every issue. Like guns. Like when you're in a tight city, someone having a gun sounds like a nightmare because like whenever you shoot, you have to think that behind that person could get shot too. In the country it's like necessity. Same with you know, centralized control versus decentralized control. The whole racism thing where you're in an area where there's all different races all around the world packed together. The one thing you're like scared of is any racial identity or something. Where when you're in the country, it, it's not that at all. There's no threat. You're just like, oh, you know, it's more about like kinship and stuff. And so, so much of the political spectrum has to do, in my opinion with the density of the population.

[B]

That's such a good point. I've never heard that angle.

[A]

Yeah. Even abortion, like, even like how much you, you re. You respect and value life. You know, like if you're just like cramped on a Japanese subway, you're like, oh, there's too many people. You're always thinking, there's too many people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Where I live a person is like so valuable. You just see, oh, you Have a cool. And. And everything changes, especially when you have kids and you see it. Yeah, it was brainwashed in the sense that I didn't understand what I was permitting. Like, I was very permissive. I wasn't like doing a lot of, you know, I drink and party and stuff like that. But I wasn't, I didn't understand what I was signing off on with some of these movements. And then when the trans child thing happened, that's when I. I separated from the herd. That's when I got like canceled, you know?

[B]

And now you're proven to be right because they just outlawed that, right?

[A]

Yeah. I mean, I was never saying anything that wasn't even like, totally obvious, you know?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. You were on it early, though. That was peak cancel culture.

[A]

Yeah. Because it was. They were trying to push it into the zeitgeist and I was like, you know, my piano teacher growing up was like trans at one point. Like, I'm not. I wasn't born to be this hyper judgmental guy. But kids are innocent and once they went too far, it's almost like. How would I describe it? I don't know. Like that waking up moment when you're like being lulled. It's like the perfect beat and then boom, the beat changes. And now you can see all the instruments playing, you know, And I'm like. Then I started rethinking all of it. I'm like, what have I signed off on? Because that was so crazy evil to me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm like. Because I always, you know, live and let live. But they don't get to choose. Like, an eight year old cannot consent to like a hormone blocker. And. And I was never in it for the money or fame or anything. I. I genuinely am like a craftsman of jokes. So I'm like, I'll just do something else then. And then I just kept doing comedy and now I built my own platforms and stuff.

[B]

You know, that's what you had to do. You had no other choice.

[A]

No other choice. I'm not even ambitious. I, like, I did a whole special once called Reluctant Warlord where I'm just like, I didn't even want to have to build a competing company. You just won't let me on. Like, you know, they kicked me off everything. Twitter, YouTube, Airbnb. Like, we had what? Yeah, we had a house that I was renting out in my wife's name that they kicked me off.

[B]

That's nuts. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. My wife's name, 4.9 stars were like one of those seen as one of those really good hosts. Yeah, it was rented all the time. It was like, it could sleep 16 people on waters, this beautiful house. And, yeah, they canceled our account like that for Covid disinformation in 2020 because I was telling people about vaxes and stuff like that, and they were so arrogant about it. But the way I see how all of it works is it always ends up good, because that money, I never would have sold that house. I was like, we have some income on it. Sell the house. And now we have this money. And so then we built our house. We're in now, and we don't have to be landlords. It was like, awesome.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That is crazy. So they even targeted your wife. I can't believe that.

[A]

Oh, it's income. All income. They were like. And that's why I went through the post office where it was like, send me a letter. Send me, you know, support any way you can. And people showed up, man.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And then we just. It's almost like chess, where you go back to the middle and then you re. Or like, what's it called where you get really cold? Hypo.

[B]

Hypothermia.

[A]

Yeah, hypothermia. You want to control the center.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you can go back to the extremities. And that's what we did. It was like, core values. You know, how to pay the bills. What are we dependent on? That's when I got goats. That's when I started getting like that. And then it. Now we're going back out again. Now the. The tide is shifting, and it's cool. It's. I'm very happy that all of that happened.

[B]

Yeah. Do you think the social media platforms will be. Will allow more free speech compared to the Biden?

[A]

I mean, they have to. Yeah. I'm excited for what Trump's up to these days. He seems like he's changed. Like an energy has shifted a bit.

[B]

I'm seeing mixed things on it. On TikTok, they're censoring certain things, apparently. And on X, too, but we'll see. I think, overall, there'll be more free speech.

[A]

They'll always censor. It's just like, are they censoring the good? Like, something that is helpful? Are they censoring, you know, like, more bad stuff, like, more subversive stuff for kids? Because I understand. Like, I could. I used to be able to do shows for, like, a Mormon corporate at 3:00pm Like, I know I'm good with rules. It's almost like coding, where it's like, X equals 5, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You can't say this word because of this. You can't do this. But the nebulous nature of, like, we know it when we don't like it, and we'll get rid of it. And I'm like. But, like, I got a strike on YouTube for the Sackler family episode about pointing out that family with opioids for anti Semitism.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

And now. And that was before it. It all came out, and now it's like a Netflix documentary. And they, like, have been fined, you.

[B]

Know, find billions are huge.

[A]

Yeah. And that's the irony is I was never telling people to blame Jews for their problems. I'm just like, this is what AIPAC does. This is all this. Watch out for this, you know?

[B]

Yeah. That's nuts. Candace Owens won anti Semit of the Year.

[A]

I know. That was some DEI stuff.

[B]

Were you nominated for that, too?

[A]

No.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

I'm. I'm a white male. They got to give it to the black lady.

[B]

I'm surprised you aren't nominated. Our boy Jake Shields was.

[A]

Yeah. Because mine is too, too funny. They almost want it to be more Jake's. I don't know why they. They promote Jake because Jake's so likable. Because I think they get worried when you're likable and funny. They want someone to just be, like, seething. Because that backfired with me. They would do all these articles with the ADL and all this, and then people would check it out and they'd see the cartoons. Like, have you seen the Pol Pot cartoon or anything?

[B]

No, I didn't see that.

[A]

Oh, I gotta send you that. It's Pol Pot arguing with a Hollywood guy about marketing a genocide.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Because you just. You just laugh. Like, I know hardcore Jews that would just. They can't help but laugh at that. And that kind of breaks the illusion, you know?

[B]

Yeah. Because you're friends with Jewish people.

[A]

Yeah. Like, I. I'll make fun of how they rub their hands or act like victims, but it's not. I have no issue with their, like, religion or lineage or something, you know?

[B]

I mean, as a comedian, you poke at everywhere.

[A]

I have to or I lose my privilege. Like, that's the whole thing. Like, I. In 2017, I went hard at, like, Islam when that mattered. You know, it's like. It's like whatever the sacred cow is, you got to do. Unless it's, like, a rule, like, no religious jokes or no swearing. But if it's like, we get to make fun of Islam and Not Jews. I can't sign off on that because then I'm just like a psycho, you know?

[B]

Yeah. It makes me wonder because Netflix obviously has a lot of comedy specials. It makes you wonder what they're telling them can and can't be.

[A]

Oh, I know a lot of this.

[B]

Stuff because they got to be holding back, right?

[A]

Ah, yeah. I mean, Netflix's owner was. Is related directly to Edward Bernays. I mean, it's like social engineering.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, you, you know, edgy is like the edgy they want, and it's okay. They built it. That's what I got. Really empowered when I'm like, you only control what you own. So I'm like, okay, I gotta build stuff. And my stuff is a lot smaller. But it's like, you know, Netflix has some good shows. Yeah, but, yeah, I mean, but see, it's. They got to ride a wave too. They got to ride a tightrope because they lose the crowd if they get too nuts.

[B]

Exactly. You saw Disney had to pivot from the de.

[A]

They have to. They have to.

[B]

I remember they had a trans guy in one of their movies. They had to cut it because they were getting so much outrage.

[A]

Yeah. Because in the end of the day, they need the attention. And someone like me gets a lot of eyeballs because I'm authentic and funny. But I don't get the platforms, but I get a lot of, like, die hard listeners. And that's why, you know, they'll be like, oh, you're a cult leader. And I'm like, why? Because I have, like, a cult, like following because I'm not allowed on YouTube. So they find me. And that's why.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And. And so. But the other side is that hyper promotion. It has to be at least kind of funny. That's why, you know, a dude like Shane Gillis is a good guy for that right now. Like, he's funny to normal guys. But they're promoting them well, which is cool because they have to. They can't just go with. Remember when Netflix had that special was just a. A girl, like, complaining about being raped?

[B]

Who was that?

[A]

She was like, this isn't a joke. And she just was like. I'm like, you have to make it a joke. Like, that's the whole job.

[B]

I think I heard about that one.

[A]

Yeah. And it's not like you're signing off on rape. You're like, this is inappropriate. Yeah. That's like a different venue, you know?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting to see which comedians they really push and which ones don't yeah, they went against Chappelle.

[A]

They did.

[B]

They really promoted Kevin Hart.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You know, he's got like four specials on there.

[A]

That was my first set I ever did was opening for Kevin Hart. Oh, yeah.

[B]

Wow. Small world.

[A]

That was my first set I ever did. And he was like a college act at the time and he was a nice guy. I enjoyed that. Really? Little guy, tiny.

[B]

It's been interesting to see his.

[A]

Just meteoric.

[B]

Meteoric. Like, almost like unheard of.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know. Did you see that coming when you were with him back then?

[A]

No, not at all. I didn't even think about that. But, like, I, I, you know, I watch Chappelle has always been awesome.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I've watched him do three hour sets and just hold the audience the entire time.

[B]

You know, people say he's the goat.

[A]

So what's that?

[B]

People say he's the goat.

[A]

Yeah, he is.

[B]

You have.

[A]

Well, I think Norm MacDonald is, but he's. He's not with us anymore.

[B]

Yeah. One and two. Yeah. It's been interesting to see the comedy space and cancel culture. You guys were really on. On ice, right? You guys were scared to say anything.

[A]

Yeah. And I never backed down from one thing.

[B]

Oh, you didn't know.

[A]

And I won't even say it on your show, but, like, people would be like, how come you can say the N word in rap but I can't? And I just say it. I'm like, you can. There's no, there's no evil in a word. It's intention. And then I'd give all these, like, scenarios like, what, what is worse saying this or this. And I. Because my, my parents were college professors, so I'm just breaking down the logic of rhetoric.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm like, the intention of something is everything. You can't ban a color. It's like the painting. And so I resisted with actually doing it. And that, that drove some people crazy. But I think I helped, I helped push it back. Like, I think I was part of that, the pushback, because all it takes is a small amount of people, you know?

[B]

Yeah. Well, now Tate's tweeting it every day. Just tweeting.

[A]

Yeah. And it's always just how you do it, too. Mine was about a stolen bike when I was 11. So, like, you couldn't get ma. And the irony is, is I know black dudes that are like, they're like, how come you lump us in? Like, how come everyone lumps us in with these crime statistics? I'm like, if only there was another word for the group of you that commits the crimes. I'm like, yeah, we have to say black now. Because the hard end you said is hate. I'm like, ironically, now so many jokes and statements are saying black people do this. I'm like, that's like saying white trash is like, I'm offended by white trash. It's like, oh, don't say. Don't say white trash. I'm like, no, there's people in Walmart on a fat scooter covered in sauce. I'm like, go ahead. It's just like the end, you know? You're like, everyone knows what that is. It's crime.

[B]

People get really pressed about racism. It's interesting to me. People are racist to me growing up, but I think it's how you kind of react to it. You know what I mean?

[A]

100. What race are you? Are you, like, Chinese? So I was going to get.

[B]

Yeah, no one made fun of me for being white, but Chinese. Yeah. People call me like, ching chong, eat dogs, whatever. All the basic Chinese stuff. Yeah, it never really affected me now, to be honest.

[A]

Yeah, because you're not. You don't strike me as having narcissistic personality disorder.

[B]

I've taken a test for that. Yeah, I didn't get high on that one.

[A]

Yeah, because it is like, it's on you to not be offended. Like, dude, I've hung out with 5 percenters till 4 in the morning. Like, they'll call me like a glacier monkey. And it's just like a funny riff, you know, versus actually not being capable of being someone's friend because of their race is not what I'm proposing. Like, comedy is totally different.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. It's that victim mentality, that victim mindset, I think.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, it's all victim consciousness. That's the thing I'm trying to tell everybody because it's like when you are. When you offload your responsibility and say that, like, every victim is a. Is a tyrant because they're justifying their. Their behavior. They're saying, because of my oppression is why I have to blah, blah, blah. And that's why I'm not. I don't hang out with victims. Now you can be victimized. Like, I'm not saying that you can't be harmed or damaged, but, like, you're not a victim. You know, everybody and I see that with white dudes these days. They're like, oh, whites are so oppressed. White replacement. I'm like, dude, I just made four kids with my dick. I'm like, I'm like, dude, just have more kids. And they're like, oh, but they won't let me. I'm like, victim consciousness.

[B]

I've seen that too. I haven't personally experienced that. Have you? The white oppression.

[A]

Zero. I mean, I've experienced non victim oppression that they'll say it's because I'm white or something.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But like, look at Kanye. As soon as Kanye started saying the wrong stuff, he was put in a box. It's not like the blacks have it easier, you know, it's. Do you act a certain way?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So if you act without victim consciousness, people get freaked out and then they'll call you like the white man and blah, blah, blah. But if you're, you know, I don't experience any. Anything for real.

[B]

I always thought the race stuff was just such a low iq.

[A]

It's so stupid. It's so.

[B]

That's why I'm happy that Di is gone. Because that stuff was just pushing us backwards.

[A]

Horrible. Horrible. I'm always been about just who's the best at something.

[B]

Yeah. Why would it matter?

[A]

Well, the feminine, it like women, they're all about like the com. I used to do a bit about women are communist, men are capitalists, where it's like, men, it's like, he's the fastest, make him captain.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Women are like, she's the prettiest, Tell everybody she has herpes. You know, it's like. Or it's like they want like the coherence of the group. And men are about like, are you good at something? Are you cool? Can I trust you? And together it makes a good family, you know? But like, I understand why women are like that because when you have a bunch of toddlers, like, they have to all be equal, you know, you can't be like, the three year old is faster, give him more protein, you know. But then you can't run a country like that.

[B]

Yeah. My fiance always tells me, you can't pick favorites with our kids when we have them.

[A]

No.

[B]

As a guy, you want to though.

[A]

We kick in around eight. That's when we start like hitting like. But when they're young, you just, you got to just. They're all good, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's discipline, but they're all good.

[B]

I love that.

[A]

Are you going to have a bunch of kids?

[B]

I want at least two, maybe three. What about you, dude?

[A]

You got to have more with those height. Height, man.

[B]

Yeah. It's a rare thing to have, right?

[A]

Dude, I'm a, I'm a height supremacist.

[B]

You're six, eight. So I'm.

[A]

Well, I just see other tall people. I don't even think race. I'm like, I really hope they have a lot of children because we're getting a. You know, the world's getting a little shorter.

[B]

No, that is. It's been proven. We used to be taller.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

It's because of the food.

[A]

And I think that, you know, there's you flying an airplane, you go into a garage. Oh, six foot five is the limit. I'm like, now, talk about oppression.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. That's height ism.

[A]

Right? Height is.

[B]

Yeah. I had a guest on. He was talking about ancient civilizations, and the average person used to be our height. They were.

[A]

They were huge.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And now that we're like giants in today's society.

[A]

I know. That's why I want more of us. Have a bunch of kids.

[B]

Yeah. If we could have one above seven, that'd be cool. How tall is your wife?

[A]

She's five six.

[B]

Same with mine.

[A]

But our kids are all 99 percentile. I don't need, like, giants. But just over six, I think is good for the world.

[B]

Under six as a male is tough, dude. I see a lot of my friends are under six and they. They said it affects their confidence.

[A]

Dude. They get sneaky, so they can still be cool. Like, I'm not saying all short people are like that, but it's a factor.

[B]

Yeah. There's a syndrome for it. Right. I forget the word.

[A]

Is it just short man syndrome?

[B]

It might be. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because they're all Napoleon complex.

[A]

Napoleon complex. They're always doing, like, Machiavellian 48 laws of power stuff because they can't just be open and honest because they're always thinking that they're going to be, like, crushed by the giant.

[B]

Yeah. When did you start looking into some of these conspiracy theories? When did you start questioning some of these world events?

[A]

Well, as a comic, I've always been like that because you're always looking at what is versus how people are acting. Like even just the most basic jokes are just, what is versus how are people acting? But like, the big ones was after the trans kid thing, because that's when I lost trust. You know, it's like, it's kind of like if you're dating someone and then there's a big trust issue and then you just. Everything's different after that. It was like that. And that's when I started and I used to have a physics podcast at Caltech, and I was all about, you know, the science and all that and then.

[B]

Wow, that's a big change up.

[A]

Yeah, no, I love actual science. I love the scientific method. I love physics, you know, but. But once I started seeing what's capable and like what social engineering is and all that, that's when I started questioning.

[B]

Yeah. A lot of science, like these scientific studies seem to be compromised too these days.

[A]

100. I did a sketch once about a scientific study of who sleeps more between me and my wife after the kid.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so I. And the whole sketch was about I get my scientists to prove it's me. You know, I'll send it to you after the stream. But it's like it's 100%. That's what it is.

[B]

I mean, you look at who's funding it, right?

[A]

Dude, imagine if I just gave you like a million dollars and I'm like, own a company that makes the thing I'm telling you to study.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You know, it's usually not super direct because that's just like criminal fraud. But it's almost like the grants at universities where it's just like implied. Or like in Hollywood it's who gets a development deal, like, and then you just see what the behavior is and then you mimic that. Now the global warming thing was totally that. Everyone's just like mimicking it because they're getting money.

[B]

Yeah. I remember growing up fearful of global warming as a kid. They programmed that one really well on people.

[A]

For me it was nukes.

[B]

Nukes?

[A]

Yeah. We used to like do things where we hid under the desk, like drills, and I find out, I don't think nukes are even real.

[B]

What? Yeah, we gotta dive into that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So what made you have that position?

[A]

Actually looking into it, dude. The, the at. The facts around all of it are insane. So Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I think they were all bombed, but they weren't even in the top 10 most bombed. Did you know that?

[B]

No.

[A]

All right, so yeah, Tokyo is way more bomb. They weren't even top 10. And the Japanese didn't surrender because of that. It was because the Russians just went into Manchuria and there was no fallout. So for me, it was all the fallout. The fallout was what scared me. I'm like, okay, so it's going to poison the water and the air forever and ever. And then my dad did a speech in Hiroshima or something and I was scared about the fallout. And it's like, oh, no, there's no fallout. And then I realized that they never even evacuated. And then I started looking into nuclear bombs and I'm like, so where is the proof? And then right here in Nevada, they used to blow all of them up. There's no fallout. So I'm like, oh, it's like a psyop. It's like it's. And that's why I'm not even trying to push it on people that they're fake. Because I see the game theory of it where it's like, I have a gun under the table. So do I. Let's not go to war. Yeah, but the fear of it was nuts growing up. But there's really no evidence that they exist as described.

[B]

Holy crap.

[A]

There's huge bombs. But think about it. What's the evidence of fallout radiation from nuclear bombs? There's none.

[B]

Damn, that's nuts. What about Chernobyl? Chernobyl?

[A]

Yeah. I think that there. Well, there is. Have you looked into Galen Windsor?

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay. So a lot of this. I grew up with a town with three nuclear power plants. A lot of it is to demonize nuclear power because it's just boiling water. So he was. He was like one of the heads of GE for nukes and he was on the Manhattan Project. He said most of it was tnt. He's like, you can blow it up and make it look like a giant mushroom. And then if you look at the actual footage of the nuclear bomb and what it does to buildings, that's 100% miniatures. That's fake photography. And I've proven that. And it got like 30 million views on Twitter. And people are going nuts, but it's so obvious that they just get mad. And I'm like, why hang on to the fear, man? It's like not scary.

[B]

It's crap. So we need to do a podcast with someone in Japan that knows about this stuff.

[A]

Well, a lot of them aren't allowed to talk about it.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. And they also have victim consciousness around that. Wow, dude. My theory, this is all. This is just a theory. I think it was their way of getting out of World War II with honor was like the nuke narrative. Because the emperor, you know, you're not supposed to surrender. And so I think that's why whole groups of people can do it. But I'd love to talk. You know, I. When I was going through this, I was listening to podcasts with like 95 year old ladies that never had cancer that were working at a Mitsubishi plan. It just didn't line up. Yeah, you know, 60,000 people, I think died. Like, I'm not questioning the death. It's the fallout, because that's the scary thing. The scary thing is, like, all the rain is poison and all this, and it's never been shown to be true.

[B]

That's such a good point because you would have seen mass health events afterwards.

[A]

It would have been a cloud moving China, Korea. Yeah. And it would have been an uptick in cancer. And it's a blue zone.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

Right. You see what I'm saying? It's like the life expectancy of Japan right now is way above America. So. So McDonald's is worse than a nuclear bomb.

[B]

Holy crap.

[A]

Yeah, dude. I'm not saying this stuff because I'm wrong. Like, I can be wrong. My thing is, I might be wrong, but I'm not lying. Like, I can be wrong all the time, but when you see the fundamentals are just all not there, it's crazy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, like the longest living people are in Japan. Oh, yeah, of course. Well, then how is that possible? Like right now, someone who's 98 in Japan lived through the atomic explosions, and then they're like, oh, it wasn't that close. It's like, it's a little island chain. So you're saying it had no effect at all, you know, versus America's life expectancy is dropping right now.

[B]

Yeah. And that's a whole nother podcast on.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

That's happening. But damn, I never heard of this one being questioned. This is interesting. I'm going to look into this more. Dude, that is crazy. It makes you wonder how long they've been trying to program people. Because this was way back then.

[A]

Oh, yeah. No, this is the whole thing. I mean, once. Once the flickering picture was live, they realized that it was. It was game on. Like, you could. Like there was a bet between Walt Disney and someone else that they could make. They could make people cry to a drawing of a deer, you know? Yeah. They're like social engineers, you know, wow. And Bambi's mom, you know, and they're like flickering images and people are weeping and they're like, yeah, yeah.

[B]

There's a lot of subliminal programming in Hollywood, right?

[A]

Oh, yeah, it's Hollywood. Is that is the wood of a magic wand? You know, it's the Hollywood.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Isn't that crazy?

[B]

And it is. And it's nuts because growing up, I never questioned any of the stuff I was watching.

[A]

Me neither. I was all. I wanted to get all the A's, you know, I'm like, I could name all these stars. 186,000 miles per second and blah, blah, blah, and the Pulsar and the White Dwarf and Then I'm like, how do they know this stuff? And there's, like, no evidence. Yeah.

[B]

History class was one of my favorites as a kid.

[A]

I love history. Yeah.

[B]

But now I'm going back and looking at. Wait, did that actually happen?

[A]

Dude, I studied World War II history in the Czech Republic. I was so interested in it.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Because my hometown of Oswego, New York, is the only town in all of America that took in Jewish refugees during the Holocaust. And everyone's so pumped about that. But I'm like, how could. Why? That doesn't make any sense. So we're fighting Germany, and this is the worst thing that's ever happened in human history. So then why was it 900 dudes from Italy? You know, and so I. I just really looked into what happened. It's. It's. World War II is pretty much the culminating event of so much of human nature. And I learned about tyrannical takeovers from the Soviet side or the Nazi side. And that's why I homestead, because it's all about dependence. It's like, that's how they. That's how they get you in a FEMA camp. Is they. Or a train car or something. Every one of those camps was, like, about food and shelter. And then you start dying. Then it starts getting abusive, because. So I'm like, okay, the key is don't be dependent. You know, most people die from exposure, disease. That's all about food quality, water quality. And so big armies don't really go to small towns. They go to, like, big cities. Dude.

[B]

It's pretty wild when you look at how dependent we are. Just living in a house.

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

You rely on air conditioning, energy, food, gas. You're all depending on someone else.

[A]

Yeah. And then look at all the SSRIs. Like, imagine if just the prescription drugs stopped in America. Just imagine that, like, the amount of people on antidepressants or on all these drugs. And then. Yeah, you have no heat, you have no water. You know, they say they're. We're nine meals away from revolution at all times. Wow. Nine meals.

[B]

When you put it that way, that.

[A]

Isn't that crazy.

[B]

Yeah, that's mind blowing.

[A]

That's why I'm like, milking goats and cows. People are calling me insane because I was. I had, like, a good Hollywood career. I was, like, in sitcoms and movies and stuff. And people genuinely thought I, like, went crazy. And now they don't. They're like, oh, I see it. I'm like, you know, me and my four kids are, like, making cheese and yeah.

[B]

You had the foresight back then.

[A]

Yeah. But it was like I was forced into it because I wouldn't compromise on my ethics as a comedian. So I'm like, I have to do my job properly. They're like, well, then you're not allowed to make money doing this, and you have to wear a mask. I'm like, I'm never wearing a mask. You know, I never wore one once. And then it's like, oh, you can't go in the grocery store. I'm like, how do you grow food? You know? And I just did. Now we have 100 chickens and alpacas and cows and goats and ducks. And my kids live in, like, a Norman Rockwell painting, you know?

[B]

Yeah. That mask programming was well put together, man.

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

Got a lot of people on that one.

[A]

Yeah. And I always thought my degree was not useful, Like History of Tyrannical Takeovers.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And my dad taught rhetoric, persuasion, mass communication, and my mom taught children's literature. And I'm like, none of this stuff is ever going to be useful. And then I'm like, I know so much about all this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

About how just changing the rule every day is like a psychological brainwashing technique where it's like, okay, wear the mask to the table, then you can take it off. There's no logic. And the more you submit to the Simon says stuff, the more it's like literally becoming hypnotized.

[B]

Right. And there was levels to that. They were saying microchips were planned, you know?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, totally.

[B]

So they. They had a whole plan. It seemed really planned out, honestly.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Like, it seemed like they were planning that for years.

[A]

And I think they failed at the big goals.

[B]

I think social media helped, Right?

[A]

Absolutely. It. It doesn't take a lot. That's the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. It's like, show me 10 and I won't burn the city. Show me five. It has to get down to where, like, everyone's in or else they have to bail.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because it's like, this is a free will realm. It helps me not have victim consciousness, where it's like, our free will and our consciousness always requires that, like, I'm in, even if it's subtle, you know? And people are like, well, I had to take the vax, you know, because my job. I'm like, you don't need the job. Get another job. Or, like, don't go on the cruise or whatever.

[B]

I think they were taking advantage of people that were relying on money because 62% of people live paycheck to paycheck.

[A]

Yeah. Well, that's why I'm not a hypocrite. I'm building social networks where people can, like, help each other in those situations because I'm going to the source. It's like, I'm not going to sit here and be like, oh, yeah, money doesn't matter. And it's like, dude, I have a credit card, Dad. I get. You know, so if you have a good social network, I used to say, no. 10 people within 10 miles. It's like they won't let you fall. It's like you can crash on someone's couch, try and get another job. You know, you. You chip. You chip in together with co op food. My mom used to do that. We get like a crate of food with a bunch of other ladies.

[B]

Oh, that's cool.

[A]

Yeah, there's ways. It's like, if. When there's a will, there's a way is really true.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

And so sometimes you don't become free until, like, I had a buddy that wouldn't wear a mask as a SWAT officer who's like a marine. He knows all about torture techniques. It's. It's. The mass thing's nuts.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And. And he was fired. He has a ton of kids, but he wouldn't do it. He's like, I will not do that. And now he has a thriving gun company as, like, his gun was in John Wick. It's like, wow. Yeah. It's like one of the most epic guns ever, right out of Idaho, you know? So, like, you never know when your story starts. I was telling that to my kids that something really bad usually happens at the beginning of every good movie because that's when your story starts, you know, and that's. It's like, you don't just have a great day and go on a hero's journey.

[B]

Yeah. It's not all uphill.

[A]

No. You. Like, that's why the bad thing happens. And then you're thrust into a journey, and how you handle that is. Is, you know, whether you're a hero or you fail.

[B]

That's so true. And a lot of people have that victim mindset with the bad thing happens.

[A]

Yeah. The bad thing happens. You're like, who do I blame? Who owes me money?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Versus, like, go on the hero's journey. Like, look at Tolkien or look at any of this stuff. It's like something changes, and then now it starts. That happened to me. I was totally content being a comic, working in Hollywood. And it's like, you Know, you have a baby, you get kicked off all this stuff. What now? I started doing tree work with my brother again, Started rebuilding, and now it's like, I can't imagine it not of happening.

[B]

Damn. To go from that peak to doing tree work.

[A]

Yeah. One day I went from 20 grand an hour to $20 an hour.

[B]

Holy crap.

[A]

Yeah. And people like, but I have kids. I'm like, I had just had a kid and my wife and then we're just like starting our second. Now we have four kids, single income, like, my wife's a stay at home mom. And it's like, I still know we would have made it work, though. Like, I could. Like, now I teach piano again. Like, I'm back to being a piano teacher, which is. It just. It's psychologically awesome for me to teach piano because sometimes I can get in the weeds with like spell breaking and comedy, and I'm like, I want to teach people how to play the piano. So I do that now.

[B]

Yeah. Piano is a good instrument, man. I played a little bit growing up.

[A]

Yeah. You're half Chinese. You have to.

[B]

Oh, yeah. My mom smacked the out of me when I messed up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. But I needed that, man. I was a wild kid.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, I needed some discipline because my parents got divorced, so.

[A]

They did, yeah. Why?

[B]

They never really told me, but I mean, it's a coin flip these days, right? So.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, it's uncommon.

[A]

Yeah, that's. That's a bummer, man.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Without a father figure, as a guy, it's definitely, definitely tough.

[A]

I see that a lot.

[B]

Yeah. A lot of guys, right?

[A]

Yeah, a lot. And it's like, want some more gravy about the nuclear power bomb? The splitting the atom, like the. The nuclear family and splitting. Splitting the. I don't know, I might be reaching on that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But when it's like splitting the family unit, I think is the most destructive thing in America, where it's like, that's.

[B]

The fallout and that's what there was. There was a lot of programming around that. Right.

[A]

Like that hookup culture beyond. Yeah. So, like the feminist stuff where it's like, you'd be more empowered at a job, but it's not true at all. A woman is the most empowered when she's at home, like with people that love her and she has the most control. She decides so much, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like all the power is at home. And then it's like. And then the dad, they're told to just like hook up with all these Chicks and, you know, you're only 40, you have plenty of time. And, and there's nothing like having kids, man. It's like my whole. And I started later. Like, I, I, I didn't really think about it. I was just kind of going through the motions. And it's like, I can't imagine now not doing that. It's like the most rewarding thing that's ever happened to me.

[B]

I've heard that a lot from guys. I can't wait, man. I'm pumped. A couple more conspiracies I wouldn't dive into.

[A]

Yeah, let's do it.

[B]

I was going through your ex. So the moon landing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's an interesting one, man.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What happened there, you think?

[A]

Dude, I don't know what happened. All I know is the reason I know that what they showed isn't real is production, you know, the camera. So the three astronauts leave, and the camera shot tilts up and focuses. And they say that there's no one on the moon. And they say that they did it by remote in negative 200 degrees in a vacuum from Houston, Texas, in 1969. I'm like, anybody in TV production knows that's not even close to possible. Like, doing that with that camera right now would be super hard.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, from a remote, just. You'd have to do, like, take after take and just all the contradictions. And why did it happen? I mean, if I was going to give them the benefit of the doubt, it was keeping hope, keeping entertainment, keeping that, that spirit going. As we're getting off the gold standard and there's a cold war with Russia or is almost like a way to get the troops excited, you know? And then, you know, maybe they spent a lot of money to try and go, and they, and they couldn't for some reason. And they wanted to deliver because people were going. There was like race riots then. And, you know, on the negative side, you know, psychological operations, where it's like the greatest thing that we've ever done. You'll. You can't do now forever.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I think about that, what that does to the youth. I mean, you're young. It's like, yeah, we went to the moon in 1969, and we can't ever now because we're not as good as them as the baby boomers because they had special technology. And it's like, dude. And meanwhile, Neil Armstrong will brag that they had less tech than an iPhone. So they're like, in these young kids face, like, we did all this with less Tech than you have in your pocket. And it's like, so why can't we go back? Well, we had better tech. And that's like a psyop, that's like, to break your brain where you're like, okay, tell me what food to eat and give me a pill. It's just like. That doesn't make logical sense.

[B]

Yeah. I always wondered why we never went back. It's been so long.

[A]

That was the number one thing for me. It's like, so every time we. We explore people, then go after that, and then. And then people would be like, well, there's no reason to like, are you. Are you kidding me? Like, a Michael Jackson concert on the moon in 1985 would not have been successful. Like, why not go to the moon? You know? And then that whole thing, you know, I'm like, yeah, I'm out. I don't know what you guys did up there, but, like, I don't even know what the moon is at this point.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because that's when it gets a little exhausting, is when you have to. My friend calls it reading the ingredients. Like, once you don't trust. When you're like, now I have to prove everything myself. When it was, like, so much easier to just be like, oh, yeah, NASA doesn't lie, you know?

[B]

Yeah, that's definitely cop.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who knows what they're doing on Mars, too?

[A]

I mean, who knows? I mean, I'm so far down the road that I'm like, I don't even know what Mars is. You know, I think it might be Greenland. Who knows?

[B]

I've seen some crazy theories on the moon, too. Yeah, it was artificially put there.

[A]

Yeah. Or what it is, you know?

[B]

Yeah, there's some theories around that. Dinosaurs. One of the first things they teach us in school. What is your take on those nonsense?

[A]

Like, imagine telling you, if you aren't a kid, that 66 million years ago, a rock fell from the sky, killed everything that are now chickens. You know, they say, oh, chickens are descended from dinosaurs. Really? So a rock fell from the sky, killed the world, and they evolved into chickens. Still, though. And then they don't really know what to say. And I'm like, dude, you know how hard it is to solve a cold case from 1970, 66 million years ago. And then you look into who did it, and it's nonsense. They've never found a skeleton. The bones are ground up. Chicken bones. Like, literally, it's nonsense. And they were all, like, part of the Royal Society. Sir Richard Owen and. Yeah, I Don't know, man.

[B]

So many psyops. That's such an innocent one. Cause kids get so excited about.

[A]

And who knows? Maybe you find a bone and someone believes it. Like, I'm so far down the road that I try to give people the benefit of the doubt again. Like, I was, like, pissed for a while, and now I'm like, what would I do? If you're looking, you know, maybe they think it. Like, maybe they believe that. And that's fine with me.

[B]

So was there a purpose just to create, like, media out of it? Like, what do you think their goal was?

[A]

I mean, it's fractal. So on a very base level, there could have. There was something called the bone wars, where people were competing, like, think about now, on social media, competing for attention. Back then it was like, almost like circus carnies. Like, come see this monster.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so on a base level, there was a reason to promote, you know, something amazing to look at. Like, oh, it's a dinosaur that's 80ft tall. And then I think to make it really, really, really, really, really old. I don't know. I mean, it could reinforce. It reinforces the fossil fuel. The fossil fuel thing is a bit of a psyop where peak oil, because they say it's from dinosaur bones. So that makes you think that there's no more. Like, it's. It's like running out all the time.

[B]

I remember growing up, they said we'd be out of gas in 20 years.

[A]

Yeah. That's the thing. I'm 44 now. It's all I grew up with. Them saying, it's margarine was going to save your heart. And then they're like, margarine causes heart attack. Like, the food pyramid I was raised with as a kid is now completely the opposite.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They're like, eat mostly bread and just a little bit of meat, because that. That's what makes you, like, sick. And it's just like. And the kale was on the grocery counters to, like, show other products. And then people told you to eat the kale. And I'm like, you guys don't know.

[B]

It's a superfood.

[A]

Yeah, it's great.

[B]

Cheerios is good for your heart.

[A]

What it. Oh, all of it. Yeah.

[B]

Wow. There's glyphosate and stuff.

[A]

Dude, it's insanity, bro. It's insanity.

[B]

Yeah. And they program these at such a young age that you don't really question it.

[A]

No. Having kids has shown me so much. That's why I don't even tell them about the moon landing. Like, I'm not like, oh, it's a lie. I'm just like, what do you think? What do you think the moon is like, what? And then I try and give them benefit of the doubt where it's like, oh, your teacher may not be lying. It might be what they were taught.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I'm like, because there's more of a chance that it was dragons than dinosaurs. I mean, you look at Chinese coins and stuff, there's dragons on. There's dragons in England. But, like, that's preposterous to think that there were dragons, but yet 66 million years ago, there was a stegosaurus with plates on his back. And I was just like, what?

[B]

Yeah. Pretty wild times, man.

[A]

Yeah. And then they. They're now adding feathers, and they pretend like they didn't used to not have feathers. That's what always gets me when it's like, are we all just gonna pretend that, you know, Dad's not drunk again? You know what I mean? It's like, we can see what they're doing, and they won't even acknowledge that. That they had just changed it again. Yeah, that's like that. That gaslighting stuff. That. That's why I don't permit any of it, you know, that's why I'm kicked off Airbnb. And it might have just been someone who loves dinosaurs or like, oh, f. This guy. Dinosaur. I love dinosaurs.

[B]

Where are you out with the alien stuff?

[A]

No, I just. I have no idea.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I see aliens is, like, people from other countries. Yeah, I'm so. It could be so many things, man. I think, you know, there's a spiritual realm. I think that there's, like, influence in a. A realm we can't see, like, whether it's demons or angels or whatever. But I don't know, man. It could be a psyop. It could be advanced tech that. That they don't show the people. You know, looking into Antarctica was always fascinating about Hitler going to Antarctica, and the whole war was fought in the 30s in Antarctica and the tech they might have had.

[B]

Yeah, I haven't looked into that. So Hitler went there, though.

[A]

Yeah. There's a Nazi base in Antarctica.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Why would they put it there?

[A]

They claim it was to get oil from whales.

[B]

Oil from whale.

[A]

Yeah. It's like Patrick Bateman lying, you know, where it's like, oh, I have to return some videotapes. It's like, so you're fighting a war, and you go to Antarctica to get, like, whale oil. So, again, I Don't know. As I get older, the more I just admit this stuff, there's no way I can get to the bottom of, you know, like, the alien thing could be so many things. It's just the other, the concept of the other. Yeah, I know there's tech that exists that is mind blowing, and I think some of it is that, like a rotating disc. Like, there's this great English engineer that showed that where if you. If you spin a disc, it, like, lowers the weight of it. And he was kicked out of the academy.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Yeah. So there's something with that, but I don't know. I'm not. I don't have the. I. I could look into it, but I'm not an engineer.

[B]

You said you were into physics, right?

[A]

I was, yeah.

[B]

Professor, have you looked into quantum physics?

[A]

Yeah. I can't wrap my. My brain around it. I think it gets spiritual. I think it goes full loop where it becomes spiritual again.

[B]

That's what I'm thinking, too.

[A]

Yeah. One of my close friends is a professional physicist from Caltech, and he does my podcast sometimes. I'll hook you up with him. He's a cool dude. But the real dudes, like, those dudes are the first to admit that at the very big and the very small, they have no idea. Like, they've never seen an atom. They just see what happens to it when you throw stuff at it. You know, they don't know. Like, they. Like an electronic is like a field of possibilities that creates an effect. It's not like you picture just a thing flying around it. But that's never been shown. It's just.

[B]

Jimmy Neutron taught me that.

[A]

Yeah, totally.

[B]

I love that show. Yeah. It makes you wonder how much of science is, like, just at a primitive level that they're teaching right now. And there's a much bigger thing at play.

[A]

Yeah. No, 100%. I think that there's way, way bigger.

[B]

Technologies, which is crazy, right?

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

Holy crop.

[A]

I think World War II had a lot of that in it. Like, I think they were battling over. Yeah. Who controlled certain technologies. I mean, talk about NASA. NASA. Project Paperclip. I mean, this is totally declassified. Those are all the Nazi scientists came here and started NASA. And I think a big part of NASA is what they discovered was social engineering techniques.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah. With, like, symbolism and mythology. Like the Trinity site, you know, like, why use a religious term?

[B]

That's so crazy. Because when you think of NASA, you think of space.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think a programming.

[A]

Right. But there's three men. Like, the first one Apollo. It's named after a God. Yeah, Apollo. And then you go up there, you have a trinity right there. You have the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit that's circling. You know, everything's about. About symbolism and, like, tethering to that deep Jungian archetype.

[B]

So crazy, man.

[A]

Well.

[B]

Oh, and it's been cool, man. I can't wait to live the homestead lifestyle. One day I'll be texting you for advice.

[A]

Yeah. And I'll give it. I'm telling you, man, the. The past is the future. It's coming back.

[B]

Yeah. I definitely want to at least have it on the side, like, somewhere I could go to three months a year, you know?

[A]

Yeah. Or just wherever you live, just keep it. Like, have it just be like. You don't have to go full Idaho.

[B]

Just.

[A]

Just have some chicken, some garden, stuff like that. Because the food. You can't get food like that at Spago. It's like. It's way better food.

[B]

Yeah. So my favorite animal has always been the panda. You have an interesting take on what's going on with them.

[A]

Yeah. I didn't want to bring up pandas because of your lineage, but I don't think pandas are real.

[B]

Why?

[A]

I think they're real the way a shih tzu dog is real. You know how you guys made the shih tzu dog? Isn't that from China?

[B]

I think so, yeah.

[A]

Okay. A panda ovulates for three days a year, and you're going to become a husband one day, and you're going to be procreating. That's crazy. So a woman, like a human, ovulates for a day or two a month. A panda only eats or defecates all day long. It doesn't. It doesn't care for its young. It's. A group of pandas is called an embarrassment of pandas. Pandas don't exist in Chinese literature or art before they were discovered by the Jesuits and they're loaned to America and all. And China owns all the pandas in the world. And there was something called panda diplomacy. They're also, like, retarded. Like, all they do is just fall down. They only eat bamboo. They can't fight off predators. They're called an embarrassment of pandas. They don't ovulate. They don't take care of their young. I mean, they're. They're ridiculous.

[B]

Wow. So you think they were artificially created in a lab?

[A]

Basically, yeah.

[B]

That is.

[A]

You want to know why? I think so. Why? Because bamboo is one of the hardest things to clear. I think they were made to clear bamboo.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah, because clearing bamboo is so hard. It grows really fast. Really hard. All they do is eat and. And I tried to find a panda that I could actually touch. There's only one spot in China and you can't even get tickets. I think it's a front. They know.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah. You like pandas, huh?

[B]

Thanks for ruining my childhood, man.

[A]

What do you like about pandas?

[B]

Well, as a kid, I just thought they were cute.

[A]

And every kid thinks that. Just like we were talking about all the other stuff. It's like kids. You show a kid a panda and they're like, I love that thing. And it's fake.

[B]

Wow. Well, cool. Where can people keep up with your show and keep up with you?

[A]

Owenbenjamin.com I have comedy Centrals outside of the system, so I actually did all this stuff. So it's like we shot our own specials without Netflix, Comedy Central, any of that. And so I sell them directly on my website. My newest one is completely clean. It's like family friendly, which again, clean is the future after I went through the end wars. And. And then I'm Owen Benjamin on Twitter, but I'm also Bertari at times, social media app. And yeah, and I'm starting to teach piano again, which is cool.

[B]

We'll link your calendly for piano lessons.

[A]

I love it. I love it.

[B]

All right, guys, check them out. See you next time.

[A]

Cheers.