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Episode: Yasmine Mohammed: Why Leaving Islam Can Be a Death Sentence | DSH #1714
Date: December 28, 2025
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Yasmin Mohammed

Overview

In this gripping episode, Sean Kelly talks with Yasmin Mohammed—author, activist, and outspoken critic of Islamic extremism—about her extraordinary life journey from a strict Islamist upbringing in Canada to her escape from an abusive forced marriage to an Al Qaeda member, and ultimately her public advocacy for reform and freedom of expression. Yasmin candidly exposes the dangers faced by apostates, the pervasiveness of honor culture and religious dogmatism, the role of Western silence, and the global dangers of Islamist political ambitions.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Yasmin’s Upbringing and Forced Marriage

• Childhood in Canada: Yasmin was born in Vancouver to an Egyptian mother and Palestinian father. After her parents’ divorce, her mother sought community in a local mosque and soon married a devout Islamist as a second wife—illegal under Canadian law but permitted in Islam ([01:20]).
• Escalating Control: The stepfather’s influence led to strict religious enforcement: hijab, prohibitions, and ultimately raising Yasmin and her sister with fundamentalist views ([02:18]).
• Abuse and Forced Marriage:
  • Yasmin reveals severe abuse: “I tried to get her husband arrested because he was sexually and physically abusing me. And later, when I was 18, they tried to force me into marriage with my cousin” ([00:00]).
  • Later, at 19, her mother forced her to marry an Al Qaeda operative, seeking a man “strong enough to control you” ([03:20], [39:03]).
• Escape: After having a daughter with her terrorist husband, Yasmin resolved to escape for her child’s sake, eventually getting out and starting a new life ([04:52]).

Apostasy, Honor, and Danger

• The Risks of Leaving Islam: Yasmin highlights the deadly seriousness:
  “The punishment for leaving Islam is execution” ([06:15]).
  “There’s no freedom of religion, no freedom of thought, no freedom of expression, no freedom” ([06:16]).
• Family Threats:
  • Her own mother threatened to kill her simply for removing her hijab, fearing she’d ultimately leave Islam: “Because she said, well, if you take off your hijab, your next step is going to be that you leave Islam. So I need to make sure that you’re killed before you leave Islam, because I won’t be the mother of an infidel” ([05:41]).
• Global Reality: About 15 Muslim-majority countries maintain apostasy laws with the death penalty ([06:24]).
• Why So Few Leave:
  • “It’s like Hotel California, right?... If you try to leave, then you’ll be killed… They know they’re holding people hostage. They know that their religion isn’t one that people willingly want to be a part of, especially women” ([06:47]).

The Spread of Islamism and Western Complicity

• Islamism in the West:
  • Yasmin notes the growing visibility of Islamist practices in Canada and the U.S., supported by the silence of both Muslim reformers (for fear) and Western progressives (for misunderstanding or misplaced tolerance).
  • She references the West’s inability to recognize threats, giving the example of George Clooney’s wife’s involvement with the Muslim Brotherhood, “and nobody freaked out” ([09:40], [21:59]).
• Leftist-Islamist Alliance: She explains the historical linkage between Islamists and leftists:
  • “This combination of socialism and Islamism is not new… They did it in Iran as well. That’s how the Islamic regime came to power… They worked together and they brought down the Shah” ([09:16]).
• Weaponizing ‘Islamophobia’:
  • The term is used to silence dissent: “It kind of sounds like xenophobia, homophobia… and so people are speaking up against child marriage… female genital mutilation… but don’t you dare criticize these things when they’re coming from an Islamic context. That’s when it’s not allowed. Now it becomes Islamophobia” ([12:46]).

Media, Propaganda, and Social Control

• Controlling the Narrative:
  • Yasmin discusses how Islamist groups, and particularly organizations like Hamas, are “great at controlling the narrative… especially with younger people” by using social media, fabricated visuals, and victimhood rhetoric ([26:39], [29:06]).
  • “A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth gets… a chance… to get their pants on. It’s too late by then.” ([28:20])
• Western Naiveté:
  • The West’s reluctance to confront uncomfortable facts—including the reality of Islamist influence and the silencing of dissenters—is enabling the problem. Yasmin points out that even factual recountings of atrocities, such as the Yazidi genocide, are canceled in Canada for alleged “Islamophobia” ([17:29]).

Internal Reform and the Brave Minority

• Speaking Out is Dangerous but Necessary:
  • “I recommend people speak up… they’ve scared people into silence, obviously, through all of this terrorism… all these things force people to stay quiet. They see what happened to Salman Rushdie, they get scared” ([12:21]).
  • “It’s scary… The massive silent majority… at this point, that kind of cowardice, I have no respect for…” ([20:58]).
• Highlighting Allies:
  • Yasmin collaborates with reformed Muslims and secularists:
    • “I’m co-director with Dr. Zudi Jaster… He’s a Muslim, so he should want me dead… but instead we’re working together against Islamists” ([41:34]).
    • Allies include reformist Muslims like Dalia Ziada, speaking out at personal risk ([42:18]).

The Global Islamist Ambition

• Goal: Global Caliphate by Any Means:
  • Yasmin asserts the goal is a “global caliphate”: “They’re relentless about it… So according to their own mission statements, they’re going to do it through what they called civilizational jihad… using our current laws and structures, secularism, and our systems against us, so they can infiltrate” ([23:35], [24:53]).
  • Methods include demographics—immigration and high birth rates—leading to political blocs, then gradual cultural and legal influence ([25:17]).
• Cyclical Violence:
  • Propaganda and violence are used to further this goal and silence dissent, as illustrated by attacks such as 9/11, Charlie Hebdo, and October 7 ([12:21], [26:39]).

Personal Impact, Healing, and Advocacy

• The Trauma:
  • Yasmin describes the “Truman Show” effect—everything in her life turned out to be built on lies ([33:36]).
  • The abuse, forced isolation, and total lack of autonomy left long-lasting scars, yet once she had a daughter, she found the motivation to escape and fight for change ([39:44]).
• Becoming a Voice:
  • Yasmin began publicly speaking in 2014, inspired by Bill Maher and Sam Harris’s attempts to raise these issues on Real Time, and the subsequent backlash ([13:45]).
  • “I was like, here I am, a brown-skinned Arab woman, and I’m going to say the exact same thing as these guys… you can’t just shut me down because of immutable characteristics…” ([15:31]).
• Persistence:
  • Despite immense danger and resistance, Yasmin has published her story (now in 17 languages) and is the subject of an upcoming feature film ([01:41], [22:50], [40:55]).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The punishment for leaving Islam is execution.”
  — Yasmin Mohammed ([06:15])

• “It’s like Hotel California, right?... They know they’re holding people hostage.”
  — Yasmin Mohammed ([06:47])

• On silencing dissent:
  “All of these things… force people to stay quiet. They see what happened to Salman Rushdie, they get scared.”
  — Yasmin Mohammed ([12:21])

• On Western misunderstanding:
  “For George Clooney to be sitting on Drew Barrymore’s show, talking about his wife was supporting the Muslim Brotherhood, and nobody freaked out…”
  — Yasmin Mohammed ([21:59])

• On manipulation of the narrative:
  “A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth gets… a chance… to get their pants on… It’s too late by then.”
  — Yasmin Mohammed ([28:20])

• On breaking free:
  “There comes a point where the rage overcomes the fear… I just need more people to be brave, and I need more people to speak out.”
  — Yasmin Mohammed ([45:29])

Important Timestamps

• Yasmin’s Childhood Abuse & Forcible Marriage: [00:00] – [04:52]
• Danger of Apostasy/Leaving Islam: [05:41] – [07:32]
• Islamism's Expansion in the West: [02:18] – [09:02]
• Left-Islamist Alliance Explained: [09:16] – [11:11]
• Censorship and Weaponization of ‘Islamophobia’: [12:21] – [13:45]
• Speaking Out and Media Backlash: [13:45] – [16:05]
• Yazidi Genocide and Western Silence: [17:10] – [18:44]
• Civilizational Jihad Explained: [24:53] – [25:17]
• Propaganda Wars and Social Media: [26:39] – [29:06]
• Personal Journey and Building Advocacy: [41:34] – [44:31]
• Final Call to Bravery and Warnings for the West: [45:29] – [46:39]

Conclusion

Yasmin’s story is one of immense courage and unflinching honesty. She illuminates the risks faced by those who challenge religious dogma, the silence and complicity that enable extremism, and the urgency for open dialogue and alliance-building between reformers—regardless of faith or background. Her call: “I just need more people to be brave, and I need more people to speak out.” ([45:29])

Further Engagement:

• Yasmin’s book is available in 17 languages and on Audible (narrated by Yasmin herself) ([40:18]).
• She is co-founder of the Clarity Coalitions, a group focused on exposing Islamist agendas in the West ([41:34]).
• Look out for the upcoming film about Yasmin’s life ([01:41]).

Host’s Final Note:
“If this relates with you… please start speaking out. That’s important.” — Sean Kelly ([48:18])