
Laura Eisenhower says the real war is not just political. It is spiritual. It is psychological. And according to her, it has been happening behind the scenes for decades. In this episode of Digital Social Hour, Laura Eisenhower sits down with Sean Kelly to talk about the hidden history surrounding Dwight D. Eisenhower, alleged deep state operations, UFO disclosure, secret treaties, Area 51, Mars recruitment, timeline manipulation, dream warfare, trauma loops, and why she believes humanity is in a major window between control and awakening. She breaks down why she believes Eisenhower was not part of the dark agenda, but was actually trying to stop it. She also explains what she calls the war on consciousness, how fear is used to keep people fragmented, and why the next stage of human freedom starts with reclaiming intuition, sovereignty, and spiritual discernment. This conversation goes deep into UFO history, government secrecy, alien technology, spiritual warfare, hidden timeli...
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At this stage in the game, the Deep State has lost its grip. They already knew and know that they're going to lose. The only thing they can do is monitor future timeline events and go into the past in order to try and manipulate things. I was targeted because they saw my mission as a threat. Eisenhower was briefed that a dissent would come in, the government structure would begin to collapse and the leadership of we the people would rise. So they intercepted that information and I was pre targeted before birth because this is the showdown of forces, window period, New world order or Ascension.
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Okay, guys, we got Laura Eisenhower here today in Las Vegas. She flew out right before she speaks at New Living Expo tomorrow. Thanks for coming.
A
Oh, great to be here. Thank you for having me.
B
Yeah, we've been trying to do this for a while now. I'm excited. I've seen you on some other shows. You talk about some awesome stuff.
A
Thanks.
B
Yeah, obviously your grandfather, Dwight Eisenhower, President, a lot of lies about him, right?
A
Yeah, I mean it's, it's turned into that being very clear to me when I first became a speaker and I was just gathering information which I have been gathering throughout my life. I've always been just trying to get to the truth and put the pieces together and so much has been revealed. So I used to speak on subjects that I wasn't quite certain about, but I knew it needed to come out and be talked about, you know, this Griata treaty that supposedly happened in 1954. And I just wanted to have an open dialogue with other researchers and, you know, people that have been speaking about this subject. But yeah, over the course of the last six, seven years, I've found out what a psyops that is and I've included it in my book and I share a lot of information about that. Now before I just was trying to understand how that could be and a lot of sound bites have been taken that makes it sound like I agreed that he did or that I thought it was a true story. And that's just not the case. I never thought it was a true story. I was just willing to, you know, talk about it and get to the bottom of it.
B
So what was the psyop, what was the treaty and what exactly are they saying happened there?
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Well, the treaty really originated in 1929. There's different segments of how all that transpired, starting way back then. When you look at the alliances with the Nazis and the Draco and the Nordics, there's so much history there. When we reach warp 1 capacity, there was deals that started to be made. We put bases on the moon and Mars. And Tesla sold his technology to the Nazis and it wasn't exactly what he wanted with his technology either. Right. So there's a lot there and it's hard to unpack in a short interview. And so people might be hearing bits and pieces of this, like wait a minute, wait a minute. So that's why it's definitely good to follow my articles and information because I really go into depth. So basically when we look at the second World War and events that took place after the second World War, the war wasn't really won. You know, we surrendered or Germany surrendered. But you know, when you look at what happened in 1947 with Admiral Byrd's expedition to Antarctica, when you look at Project Paperclip, when you look at, you know, the different, you know, crashes, Roswell crash and other UFO crashes and just so much that takes us into this deeper storyline connected to the galactic wars. You know, this infiltration took place, but the abduction scenarios had already begun and those abduction scenarios going way back when, infiltrated into the United States. And then this Griata treaty that was supposedly signed in 1954, the PSYOPS part of it is that we had already surrendered in 1952 under Truman. So where do I get this information? I'm sure people wonder. So Dan Cooper, who has become a good friend of mine, I've been communicating with him for the last five years, has, you know, inside information. He's a senior advisor to the Earth Alliance. He was actually rescued by Ike's force, USMC Special Section that Eisenhower set up. So he's had firsthand experience and he also did a 20 and back and is a physicist on the level of Tesla, discovered the sixth, seventh and eighth force of nature and creates over unity generators and wants to disclose free, free energy and is all about opposing the deep state.
B
So he's like the modern day Tesla, Nikola Tesla.
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Yeah. And so he has immunities and he signed, he never signed an NDA. So he's able to disclose all this information. And what he made clear is that 1954 a treaty was never signed because in the unconditional surrender instrument under Truman in 1952, they divested all that power to MJ12 and three letter organizations in this growing, you know, shadow government.
B
Yeah.
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And, and so MJ12 is responsible for renewing or keeping alive these treaties. And then we then see military abductions and simulations of alien activity and the weaponization of the way we relate to abduction phenomena. And what we see with this infiltration is geoengineering, social engineering, Mockingbird media. And you know, a lot has been obvious to so many of us that we didn't really win the war and something else is going on. So Dan Cooper talks about Eisenhower invading Dulce underground military base in 1954, the same year he's blamed for signing treaties. So he actually tried to take out the Grays and Draco's and Val Thor was his advisor and helped him to understand, helped him to understand what was actually going on. And in 1952, 1953 is when the communications began. And Val Thor, from what Dan Cooper says, and this also lines up with what others have said as well, Val Thor advised him and helped him to set up the White Hats and the Earth alliance and Ike's force and all this, all these countermeasures to take down the Deep State that still survive today. But it had to be done covertly. So the, the invasion of Dulce in 1954. Later on in 1958 he wanted to invade Area 51. And so there's a lot of evidence on that there, there's the interview with Richard Dolan and Anonymous and on his deathbed this former person affiliated with the three letter organizations has this testimony that Eisenhower wanted to invade Area 51 and it was out of the jurisdiction, their jurisdiction to even monitor what was going on. And that they completely took over everything connected to alien technology and they kept the President out. Holy crap. So after this infiltration, there were 30 levels of top secret above the President. And if he didn't have the help of Val Thor, it would have been very difficult for him to achieve what he did. And Val Thor, you know, went kind of rogue. There was non intervention agreements. And so this is the kind of information I've been finding out. And you know, these stories still go viral about Eisenhower signing these treaties. And it's just Dan Cooper is so adamant. He's like, how many more times do I have to tell you? I'm like, but what about this? What about this person? And they said this and that. So I'm not just running wild with it. I'm, you know, sharing all the information that I've ever come across in relation to the subjects. Really. I want to get to the bottom of it.
B
It is fascinating when you think of alien connections to Presidents. I feel like Eisenhower is the number one link there. Right. They talk about him a lot.
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Yeah. And, and the Deep State does not want us to know the countermeasures he put in place. And, and Dan Cooper also said, I know I'm referring to him a lot. That they spend billions of dollars every year to create these psyops and these disinformation stories, these false narratives connected to disclosure. And he said specifically, they want to make Ike look bad so nobody listens to you. And they're afraid that if they don't have a scapegoat and somebody to blame, then they won't, then they'll be exposed. I mean, when you think of the term shadow government, they want to hide in the shadows. They're operating from behind the scenes. And, and so, you know, we saw Kennedy's assassination, the sort of threats that took place during his time. Everything had to be done, you know, covertly. And when that became more exposed, we see the ramifications. And after Kennedy's administration, now you're dealing with the three letter organization's grooming candidates and, and, and, and how MK ULTRA never went away. And so many secret projects and programs and secret space programs. Now it was all coming to light and we see a lot more testimonies and stories of individuals that have been through it, that have survived it and that are calling it out. So disclosure, Right, Disclosure.
B
Good times. We're in. So if Trump tried to go into Area 51 right now, do you think they'd let him in?
A
Good question. I doubt it. But at this stage in the game, the deep state has lost its grip. They already knew and know that they're gonna lose. The only thing that they can do is monitor future timeline events and go into the past in order to try and manipulate things.
B
I feel like they're doing that 100%.
A
Yeah.
B
I feel like they're taking certain people out because they know in the future they'll be a threat.
A
Exactly.
B
Like Charlie Kirk.
A
Right.
B
I feel like they're, they're like, they definitely look in the future. They catch these people so early. It's not a coincidence.
A
Right? Looking glass technology, Chronovision, time travel.
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temporal management and the correction of timelines in relation to how they manipulated timelines is what I's Force is all about. They're vigilantes that are tasked with correcting timeline manipulation and distortion that Eisenhower actually set up.
B
So it's like a Time Force, right?
A
Yeah, because it goes against cosmic and natural law and it's just, it's a violation.
B
You have that in Marvel too, in the Marvel movies. Like a Time Force when the Flash is messing with timelines.
A
Right.
B
So that's a real thing.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah. So. So they know in the future that they are defeated, that they are taken down and they're seeking amnesty. You know, a lot of people coming forward. There'll be probably a lot more exposure of how people have been blackmailed and, and, and so many children that, you know, have, have been victimized and trauma based, mind controlled or taken down into these tunnels and I mean everything is coming to light. So this is so important. But corrections are taking place, but the only really thing that they can manipulate is information and try and steer humanity's attention away from the solution. And that's really all they have left for sure. And so yeah, I mean I was targeted because they saw my mission as a threat. And it even was written in a book and handed to me. It was never published that Eisenhower was briefed that a descendant would come in and I was going to come in from the Venusians and the Guardians and we all have that relationship to those higher dimensional beings and that a lot of us would come in and work together like you and all of us. Yeah, that we all were going to Be a team. And that the government structure would begin to collapse and the leadership of we the people would rise. And so they intercepted that information. And I was pre targeted before birth.
B
Wow. Before birth, before your parents?
A
Well, before birth as in they knew that I was going to come in, so they wanted to be ahead of all that.
B
Wow.
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Yeah. And so I noticed this targeting on me and I couldn't really talk about it, but fortunately Eisenhower was a guide and just higher dimensional beings really helped me and I understood it enough to be able to sort of survive. It was heavy. It was really, really heavy. And I'm still recovering. You can kind of tell my energy's a little. I'm like, it's been pretty rough.
B
I was gonna say it's very rare for direct family members that are involved with stuff like this to speak out. Very rare.
A
Yeah.
B
Like I've had on a lot of guests. And you're one of a kind, honestly.
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Oh yeah, yeah. Well, I'm doing my best. It's hard to articulate. There's so much information there. So I'm glad I was able to, you know, write a book. It's easier for me to write and present articles and have different testimony from individuals. I know I brought up Dan Cooper more than most people, but Alex Collier, who talks about the government within the government related to these three letter organizations and just a lot of different material for people to discern, including the material where people say that he signed some treaty and it just doesn't line up.
B
Yeah, because I hear a lot of people say the Deep State really came into power under. After JFK was assassinated. But you're saying they were around even
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before then, 1929 and, and it goes way back, you know, Anunnaki and just the formation of the, you know, Illuminati, the Deep State cabal, and how that relates to the reversal grid technology, the mothers of darkness, the. The inverted system that really wants us to be. Be in a dependency bond so it can vampire off of us and siphon and harvest our energies to battery up artificial timelines that take us down a trajectory that we do not need to go down. If we can just see through it.
B
Yeah, off our fear. Right. They feed off our fear.
A
Yes. And being misinformed and attaching ourselves to things that just entangle us and our creative energy and keep us sort of in this divide and conquer pit against each other. And the thing is, fragmentation and imbalance is what archons and dark agendas feed on. And as long as we are fragmented and traumatized or pit against each other. Those dark agendas will be able to continue to use us. And this is the healing that is so necessary right now. And I think some people miss the mark. And we see a lot of competition or people running wild with only a certain amount of information. And you gotta dig deeper. You have to dig deeper. And that's the most important part of why I'm bringing so much to Light connected to Eisenhower. It's not about me. It's not about him. It's about correcting the timeline so that we can actually heal as a humanity. Because we wouldn't be able to heal as humans if we are functioning off of false memories from our childhood. So it just has to be corrected for us to be on board with knowing what truly happens so that we don't mistake the imposters for. Or the, you know, planted information or disinformation is, you know, anything to go on. And our intuition will guide us. But this is why there's so much weaponization of frequency to scramble us. We can't even listen to ourselves anymore and feel into, you know, the necessary discernment that'll help us to navigate these times.
B
Yeah, they've attacked our intuition almost. They don't want us thinking freely. AI is making it even worse, too.
A
Totally.
B
Like we're just becoming so reliant on technology.
A
Yep, Yep. And that's what's so key, because there are advancements in technology, but if it's at the cost of our own soul development, then it's, you know, the agenda is to assimilate us into that and remove us from our soul matrix, which is why certain species ended up becoming bioengineered into gray form, or ebe. They're not all humans that have digressed into that over the course of time. There's many different types of Grays. But if we look at the trajectory of what happens when we lose our soul matrix, when we lose our soul centeredness, it doesn't look so good.
B
I've heard that with Grays, they forgot how to reproduce, Right?
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Yeah. And it's just other, you know, systems, star systems, have experienced the same. And that's why some Grays have come to, like, warn us. And there's different places in the timeline that, you know, different species are going through their own healing process.
B
Yeah.
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So Dan Birch actually talks about it P45s and P52s. And some might think he's not credible. And again, we just have to exercise discernment. But there are different phases of, you know, a species evolution. But without looking at it from the standpoint of linear time. There's all sorts of communication going on so that we can get enough information to make the right decisions right now in such a critical window period. Because this is the showdown of forces. Window period, New world order or ascension. And ascension's not necessarily how people have defined it. I mean, to me it's awakening dormant DNA and remembering who we are and how connected we are to this planet. And the reversal grid technology is what's kept us in this junk DNA. And when we break through the programmings, we actually dismantle the dark weaponry and we correct the reversal spin into the direction that moves us into advancement on a human level.
B
Yeah. When you say reversal grid technology, is that the 5G tower or stuff like that?
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That is to keep that alive. Digression, scatteredness, having thoughts that aren't your own. So Nephilim reversal grid in the Niberian diotic crystal grids were put in significant areas like the Michael Mary Lines Stonehenge area. And, and of course the 10th gate connected to Iran is a really significant one. And you know, because the planetary grid is connected to our DNA, so if it's in reversal, the, the, the way that that translates to us as humans is having limited DNA. Wow. Where we age and the programming live as long, we don't live as long. All that manipulation of planetary grid technology is to put in reversal of the dodecahedron ether element. And that's why the symbology of this satanic pentagram is going into the ground. The fifth element is going down.
B
Wow.
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And the Venus transits have corrected that by bringing that back up so that the ether element, which is the substance of alchemy, can purify the elementals. And the elementals, earth, air, fire, water, ether are connected to the nucleic acids of our DNA, with the mitochondrial DNA being connected to the ether, which is, you know, the battery supplier and the part of our DNA that can purify and dissolve the fences and programmings and begin to break down the weaponry that has been installed in us because of social engineering, to then move through the laws of alchemy and switch on dormant DNA and then collapse and override this whole inverted system. So we become the override frequency to 5G. And so in the presence of moving through the challenges and tests and tribulations of life, we collapse all of that. But the thing is, significant planetary alignments, they weaponize into psyops and false flag events, so that when there's a powerful alignment taking place, they'll create a False flag or a psyop event to throw us into a trauma loop so we miss the. The opportunity to actually grow and come together. That's crazy, because the planetary intelligence knows exactly how to heal its own system. And so that ether element is available to us. But because of osmosis, because of the programmings, because of what streams through the media and all the different pillars of society, medical industry, educational, political, religious, entertainment, we're hooked in. So when these psyops or false flag events happen and it streams through these different pillars of society, we're captured. So the Venus transits and guardian souls that have done the grid work have created these corrections, the planetary alignments. Right now, in this particular juncture, this phase of our planetary evolution is in such a powerful time to move through all of this if we can just recognize the gains that are being played. Because now that it's all corrected, all they can do is just distract us away. And that's why they chose this particular window period for further enslavement. This was. This was the most critical time that they wanted to capture souls. So the fact that we've overridden so many attempts and still push through and still expose truth and still, you know, we never quit and we have this endurance, I think they're just like, wow, these are warriors that we can't stop.
B
People are waking up. I don't know if you've been following this moon landing thing, but NASA had to turn off their comments yesterday because they're trying to land on the moon again. And people think it's bs.
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Oh, yeah. And all these, you know, different storylines, they just realize, like, all the grooming, all the ways of poisoning us and dumbing us down and creating just so much weaponization of pretty much, you know, everything to keep us in this state of regurgitation and the targeting of starseeds or the dismissal and projections upon it, the way the medical industry has created labels and pushed pharmaceuticals. When we're supposed to think that depression and anger are something to fear, when really we're supposed to get to know it and understand why it's there to. To recognize our mission and our true calling, because that's what. Where it guides us to. But people are like, make it go away. Make this discomfort go away, because we have to consent and comply and something's wrong with us if we don't. I mean, that's the ultimate programming, because we all know exactly why we're here.
B
Yeah.
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And it's in our soul to know exact what to do during these times to Live in our authenticity and live in our truth and not be bound to all of this. So, and people are waking up. And the beauty is it's not adopting a belief system outside the self, it's believing in yourself and being able to see through the distortions and lies and speaking your truth. And the most important part is also having the compassion and forgiveness towards each other, recognizing what we've been up against. We can heal because they really rely on the trauma loops. Who's the bigger victim? How can we stir people's, you know, traumas up so that, yeah, we just stay fractured and, and just running to false solutions instead of each other to really repair this 12 strand DNA so that diversity and harmony begins to switch us back on.
B
I do feel like the younger generation is really waking up too, because a lot of them don't support this war going on right now in Iran. It's like the most disapproved war of all time.
A
Yeah, yeah. I mean, and it's important for the younger generations to be the guidance of the future. And for those that are, I guess what you would call the elders or those of us that are doing the work that we're doing in the here and now, that we all just work together, it's time to collapse the system and look outside of ourselves. And we have to end the war by winning the war from within, because it's been a war on consciousness. And it's amazing how much we can achieve amongst ourselves and each other within ourselves to change the outer world. We're not at the mercy of all this stuff outside of us. We can really shift it from within. And I know that sounds kind of like. But. But we're connected to these gateways, these stargates, our DNA, you know, the 10th gate,
B
you said that one's in our end, right?
A
Yeah. And that relates to Tiamat. It relates to the, the healing of the mother Energy. Just, it connects to the rest of the planetary grid. But when it's been, you know, occupied or like in this Draconian reversal, it represents draconian DNA. 10th gate. 10th. 10 strands, 10 spheres. That is not the true tree of life. So you got the tree of death in this whole reversal grid network and how the Stargates and ley lines have been impacted, and when we reclaim it within ourselves, we shift it. I mean, the Earth really does respond to us. We are that interlinked with it.
B
Yeah. And there's these portals everywhere, Right.
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It's more than 12. I mean there's 12 main ones. And then you got the 13th. So the 13th sign of Theuchus is the ether element and represents the remedial flame. Things got so out of whack that the 13th flame really had to come in. And it's the reclamation of the planetary body, the mother reclaiming her body. It's like if we don't reclaim our bodies and we're not soul centered, then we got a lot of programming running through us. People are channeling entities and imposter energies and their ego energy is compartmentalized away from their soul and their higher self. And so weaponizing the elements through geoengineering is exactly what social engineering is, but on a human scale. Right. So the micro macro connection is really strong. So when we dismantle the social engineering, we help the planet rid itself of the geoengineering because we're elemental and we can actually purify our inner elements and the earth will respond to that. And that's how we break down the weaponry. But of course we have to speak up, we have to be advocates. We have to have these open conversations and with an open mind and mutual love and respect, if we can.
B
Easier said than done.
A
I know, right?
B
A lot of divide right now. It's crazy.
A
But, yeah, I'm not into war. Eisenhower wasn't into war. He was into ending all wars. And so, yeah, it's been. It's been quite a ride because I have to say I'm. You know, it's hard to be on video sometimes because there's so much about just recovering from. And I know a lot of people are as well when. When you're blamed for something or your family is blamed for something that they didn't do and you're constantly up against, you know, just having to defend yourself or provide, you know, information to help people see differently. It really is exhausting. It's must be. And yeah. Because it's every day. It's every day.
B
It's crazy because it's been so much time too.
A
Yeah, it's been years and years and years. Decades really. And to see all that go viral and when I try and put something out there, it barely has a reach. It's. It's just frustrating.
B
You're probably being signed, certified to guess.
A
Yeah, yeah. And. And also that he starved German POWs on purpose as some kind of genocide. And I just wrote all the evidence.
B
POWs.
A
What's that? Prisoners of war. Oh, yeah, during the Second World War. Yeah, yeah, during the Second World war. So, yeah, there's just been a lot of disinformation and the Thing is, if, if it was true, I would, I would say it. I'd be like, I'm related to a total scum, you know, like, well, that
B
whole war, there's so much disinformation about, like if you really dive into that rabbit hole, there's certain things you can't even talk about that war.
A
Oh, I know.
B
Without getting in super trouble.
A
Oh, I know. It's insane. So hopefully we can all move, move forward. When I'm tagged in post or people are saying that, it's like, okay, I'll present the evidence, I'm not biased. I'll present the evidence and just look through it, consider it, have an open mind to it. But let's move forward. Let's heal from all the world wars. What is behind all the world wars? I mean, there's seven root races and five cloister races. Everything is to try and keep us from restoring our 12 strand DNA and beyond. And so, so most of what has played out throughout history is to keep us traumatized, fragmented, and in this reversal energy that is based in a dependency bond with the inverted matrix.
B
Yeah. Once you've realized most wars are orchestrated, it really changes your perspective on war. Like it really makes you against wars totally.
A
And you know, the good intent of people that signed up for it and were fighting for what they thought was our freedoms. And anybody who has ever had good intent that has been wrapped up in a lot of the psyops or the disinformation or feeling like what they're fighting for is for the reasons that they fought. I mean, the intention speaks louder than being duped and being misguided, fortunately. I mean, I just think that's so important. And that's why when we look at the political divide and people hating on, you know, who you might align with and who you might not align with, they forget about the deeper intention. They forget that there's so much conflicting information that whatever a person gravitates towards most often where they're coming from is wanting the same thing as the person, maybe coming from a different angle.
B
Agree.
A
It's just, it's so fragmented and it's so multilayered that when it comes down to it, we all really want the same thing. It's just people don't know who's who. They also don't understand what's going on behind the scenes. Because the deep state infiltrated the United States, what's playing out on the world stage isn't exactly what's going on behind the scenes. Even Eisenhower had, you know, Put countermeasures in place. We're just finally figuring out about now.
B
Wow.
A
That we didn't know back then that he was being advised by Val Thor that he invaded Dulce, that he tried to invade Area 51. You know, they wiped all of that, replaced it with false narratives. Spent millions, billions of dollars to bury the truth. And so we need to know how multi layered this is.
B
And makes you wonder like because they teach us the President has the most power, but it makes you wonder how much they actually can do and how much they actually know.
A
Right. And you know, that's why Eisenhower had to, you know, go covertly. I mean, and people just. Yeah, they don't realize. I mean, he was a poor farm boy, he was raised with little money, he had a mission and he wanted to, you know, stop this total enslavement agenda. And the thing is they, they'll, they'll make us think that there's two sides to it and there's these two political parties, but they funded both sides.
B
Yeah.
A
And now something's changing where something's rising out of this two side sort of division.
B
Yeah. I don't think he'll be around much longer.
A
No. And something important is rising, which is the divine human, which is us being the powers that be, whereas the system has been the powers that have stolen. So, you know, Eisenhower might have called himself Republican, but he wasn't really a politician. I don't want to talk too much about this at administration, but sometimes you have to wear a label, but you're not really the label in order to crush it because people, you know, are going to pick something. But every Eisenhower has become an independent, seeing how infiltrated both sides have become.
B
Yeah. It's the only way to win these days to label yourself one of the two.
A
Right. And hopefully we'll kind of move beyond all of that. And we have to remember that each of us counts, whether you like this current administration or not. We don't want to get so lost to our differences that we forget what the most important thing is because the truth will be known. It'll get very, very clear. And if we overly attach ourselves, we might lose the flexibility to be able to see it when it does reveal itself to the full. And we have to be very, very careful about false disclosure narratives, which is what I'm really concerned.
B
Project Bluebeam. Right.
A
Yeah, there's that. And just as much as they might not think that's going to happen because supposedly 2014 was the year that they were going to do the major fake alien Invasion and an outer barrier was put around the planet. Eisenhower, through the help of Val Thor, appealed to the Guardians. And again, it wasn't just Eisenhower. Eisenhower is a voice for we the people, I feel. So it wasn't just him. He might have been in that leadership position. We can refer to him and what he and a lot of people in agreement set in motion, like the white hats that also extends back before him as a baton being passed of, you know, any movement that is seeking to take down vampiric control agendas. It's just important to, you know, recognize that what is rising is our sovereignty. Not being dependent anymore, not being at the mercy of outside events, thinking that that's our future. We still have to contend with it, but you know, we're the ultimate script writers of what's to come.
B
Right.
A
And our endurance and our capacity to come together and work together, you know, is everything. And I feel the healing centers will replace hospitals. The political system will move to the side and true leadership will take place in communities where people are really looking out for what's right beneath their noses. Trafficking rings are not just over there in Epstein. I mean, it's everywhere. Cartels trafficking just in our own communities, just in our classrooms, underneath airports. I mean, there's a whole network, Hotels, hotels. I mean, it's a whole network that is widespread across the planet. So we all have to be diligent and step up in our leadership role and protect our children, number one. And not just rely on some outer authority to steer the course anymore. And I think that's the greatest lesson for us all to wake up to, is that we can't just sit back and give our power away anymore. For sure. Too many dark players and. And imposters. There's a lot of well intentioned good people. But you know, it's time that they, yeah, really work with all of us. And that's beginning to happen. You know, when we saw the doctors that refused to go along with the narratives and I don't know what I can actually say on the show, but I'll. But you know what I'm saying. And teachers who don't consent, parents that pull their kids out of school when something doesn't feel right, you know, we gotta get back to trusting our intuition, our higher self and everything.
B
I'm not sending my kids to school with what I know now. Who makes the textbooks, what's being taught there? It's all bs.
A
I know. I pulled my kids out of school. They're 27 now, but they're passing around Chemtrail flyers. They went to go see Dane Wigginton when they were 12.
B
Wow.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah. Just pure indoctrination, Right. I've had to do so much unlearning the past few years of all the history I learned in school. It used to be one of my favorite classes, but now that I know what I know, man, they really fed us a narrative. I know, it's a shame. It's a shame.
A
I know. It really is.
B
I told you my school was named Eisenhower School too.
A
Yeah. Well, he definitely was not a dark player and into indoctrination, any of that. And there's so many institutions and things that are named after him that I'm sure have all sorts of weird stuff going on, but he doesn't stand for that. And he's been an incredible guide and I know on a. I was, and it's been told to me since I was young, there's been a lot of synchronicities and guidance along the way to help me understand what was going on. Because of the targeting was so bad that I was a guide from the galactic realms to his administration. So I really feel this affinity for him, like seeing the way he's being represented and all these.
B
He must hate it, right?
A
What's that?
B
He must hate it how he's being represented.
A
Yeah. And again, it's not about him. It's about what it's doing to humanity. It's like there's not an ego connection to oh, my name or me. Neither. Like, oh, gotta protect the family name. I like, I'm. I feel like it's more protecting our history, protecting the truth. Because if people make him the bad guy, they might not be reassured about the countermeasures that were put in place.
B
Right.
A
And what that represents and the amount of starseeds that are here and Earth warrior mission oriented people that might forget who they are because they've been targeted at an early age. So, you know, he's a reminder to that too, that we have the power that, that it's not about one leader. It's not about the governments, it's not about who you vote for. It's us. And so he was told about a big migration of souls coming in during his administration and that's what really reassured him. He had like eight heart attacks and he was.
B
Jeez.
A
Yeah. I didn't know during his time. Yeah. I mean, he was being attacked and. Holy crap. Yeah.
B
What a trooper for eight heart attacks. That's insane.
A
Yeah. And. But you know, he, he was briefed and he was able to see, you know, what was to come. And he left us a lot in. In that final speech.
B
But, you know, I gotta watch that.
A
Yeah. So there is a lot of disinformation. He did not sign treaties. And, you know, beyond an interview to get more of that kind of information, definitely my substack articles really go in depth.
B
Your books too, right?
A
Yeah, my book too. And I'll. I'll probably be writing more, but. Yeah, I'm kind of in this major, kind of recovery zone there. There's just been generational trauma.
B
I don't blame you.
A
Yeah, Yeah. I mean, when you're thrown, like. And you're constantly just wading through this and you're just trying to show the information, you just slammed right and left and slammed right and left. You know, it's sort of like attacking a firefighter for trying to put out a fire. It's not about the firefighter's identity. It's like, why are you trying to stop me? I'm trying to help. And. And it's understandable. I don't blame people. I don't hate them for it. It's just. Just. Just check out what I have to share. Use your discernment. Check out the. The sources, and you give it a chance.
B
Most people only read headlines these days. The critical thinking is a lost skill. So you have the mainstream pushing the agenda in a certain way, and it's hard to fight back as an independent creator.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it definitely's taken a toll on. Just kind of like, my psyche. Just kind of like, you know, But I bounce back, and I always think
B
the truth comes out.
A
Oh, totally.
B
You know?
A
Totally.
B
Even when it looks terrible, I think in the long run, it just. I could sleep at night knowing I'm putting the truth out there.
A
Oh, totally. And that's it. Like, I feel at peace. Like, if I were to leave tomorrow, my heart's in the right place. Did the best that I could.
B
Same.
A
I've left information that people can maybe find later, and I've gotten to meet amazing people like yourself, and I just feel like that is so reassuring and so grounding, and I'm just so grateful. And I'm grateful you've brought me on the show. And there was always this inner voice or just this message coming in from guides, like, you're not alone. There are others like you. You're gonna meet them, and then you're all gonna come together and you're gonna do this. You're gonna do this together. And here we are.
B
I Love that. Yeah, I love the spiritual events are my favorite to film out interviewing people like you. It just feels like. It's hard to explain, you know, but that energy totally. Like, you just feel like you're at home.
A
Yeah, it is. And it's. And. And that's. And. And that's going to ripple out and people are going to feel, you know, that. That comfort and safety. So many people are recovering from betrayals and cults and, you know, giving their power away to some outside leader. And, you know, this is really about healing. This is really about shar and living in integrity. And so. And that's the most important thing to me. It's just, yeah, we got a ways to go, but yeah, I think the worst is over as far as there's no turning back. You can't put back in in the box what has been revealed and what is out there. People can't just brush it off as conspiracy theory anymore.
B
Yeah. I feel like there's so many people speaking about it now that you can't just brush it off anymore. Right before it was like people were scared, but now we have the numbers.
A
Yep. And we have to really help, you know, the fear that people feel, you know, and that's what, you know, working with sound healing and just, you know, digging deep into just, I don't know how to assist a person and finding, you know, themselves in the face of this, you know, adversity because it's so derailing, it's so difficult for people because whatever they thought was reality is crumbling. And along with that is what their identity is, what they think their identity is. But the beauty is, is that when that crumbles, a greater identity emerges, which is your soul centeredness, your true divine embodiment. That that is so much greater than maybe, you know, anything else that they have attached themselves to. But it's a process. And the thing is, going into the dark night of the soul or going into these initiatory phases, not receiving a download and instead going into an anxiety attack because you're afraid of what's coming through you. Has been medicated, has been transferred over to some doctor to treat when really those are our gifts that are trying to get our attention. And if we shove them down, our body produces dis. Ease. And then we think we're dying. But this is all the body's way of saying, hey, listen to me. Listen to your pain, listen to your depression, listen to your anger, listen to your anxiety. It's a download from your higher self. And we're like, no no, no drugs, medication, labels of, you know, ADD or whatever, autism, and. Yeah. And so we are literally silencing and really diverting really advanced souls into the direction of something that is suppressing their genius and their wisdom and their guidance for these times. So that has to stop, of course.
B
Did you feel like you went through a bit of an identity crisis at some point? How to find yourself again?
A
Yeah, I mean, I've gone down so many dark nights of the soul. My. My book is so much about going into the underworlds and that's really where a lot of the grid work happens. And. But. But it was conscious. It was like, okay, you know, just. Just always sort of dying and being reborn. You know, I would say the identity crisis were kind of early on when I would maybe believe I have learning disabilities or I'm crazy, or if I just felt like an outcast, that something's like, wrong with me. And. And that didn't really last too long because I could see the programmings too, but at the same time, I was friends with everybody. When you can cut through the programmings, it was like we all really get along, you know, and I tended to have friends in every kind of social circle and. But I was the one that everybody skipped class with, so I had the worst attendance.
B
You were the bad kid in school, huh?
A
Sort of, yeah. But, yeah, I think. I don't know if the words identity crisis. I've always known my mission since I was young, and I was always given information and downloads and. And I knew I was kind of living like this kind of double life, but when I was in like, despair about it because I couldn't talk about it, I would have some kind of dream or some sort of synchronicity would happen, or I would meet some kind of elder or shaman type or somebody who could read clearly and just help ground me and be like, okay, you know, and. Or, yeah, especially like, dreams, because I was targeted to go off planet and they used a partner that they located with me in a past life.
B
Mars. Right.
A
Yeah. And they used him as bait. So, you know, I knew there was a targeting on me. And when it became so clear, it became a little bit easier because then I trusted myself more. But when I was kept thinking, is this bad karma? Like, what did I do wrong? And I just felt, yeah, like, really discombobulated. Yeah, I got really lost. I struggled with addiction, I struggled with substances. I struggled with so much. And I just felt like, yeah, been there. And then I just went into the wilderness, and the wilderness really healed Me, and I went. My background's wilderness education, wilderness expedition leadership. And it just healed me. I was like, just the animals and just being in nature and just pushing my body and realizing that my brain does work and. And then all the rabbit holes I dove into when I began to write about it and do presentations, I'm like, okay, I don't think, you know, I have learning disabilities. I think I have selective learning. Even though there's some classes like you that I, you know, was really interested in. The places where I was like, that doesn't quite sound right. I would revisit later and I'd be like, okay. So I just learned to trust myself a little bit more. But I mean, I'm still healing, honestly.
B
I think we all are. I don't think trauma ever fully goes away. No, because you have like generational trauma. You got the current life trauma, you got subconscious trauma. There's just so many different types.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
You know.
A
Yeah. So I'm definitely. And I know it shows. And sometimes, you know, people give me a hard time, but I just hope they can understand. You know, it's. It's. We're. This is a war. We're in a battlefield. They're trying to make it really, really difficult. And it's all. I know it's from. From the get go and so many others as well. And I just want to be a voice for them because they might not realize the targeting. They might blame themselves. And that's what a lot of the engineered events are set up to do.
B
Yeah.
A
So that we blame ourselves or we think something's wrong with us. Because when things kept falling apart, I'm like, it's me. Like, I just, I'm just the biggest F up. I'm so good about not dropping F1 and. And then when I realized, which I don't fully blame it on, but you know, the level of targeting the plants they put in my plate, you know, in my. In my life, and. And how they engineered events to trip me up, you know, I was like, okay, that makes sense. But they do it to all of us, you know, to varying degrees. Targeting is happening to any awakening soul. That is what they're trying to keep down. And once we awaken, there's no hierarchy. We're all unified in this. Sorry, go ahead.
B
No, I was going to say the targeting is very covert these days. I've noticed lately they've really been going after me in my dream world, you know, because I feel like I have pretty good defense set up in my conscious life. They've tried doing that, planting certain people in my life, certain things, but I feel like in the dream world is where they're really targeting people that are spiritual right now.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
You know, I talked to a lot of people about this, and they're all getting targeted. In the dream world.
A
Yeah. Dream warfare, it's. It's a real thing, and I've definitely experienced it, and.
B
Oh, yeah, it's eerie, you know, and when they're watching you in a dream or controlling, they prey on your fears and your dreams.
A
Absolutely. And in this living, you know, dream, just. Yeah. The. The. They want to amplify wounds and traumas and. Yeah. And the dream realm is a really powerful place to get people because just the unconscious, you're vulnerable. And people get taken, you know, in their dream time, too.
B
Taken. They make you sign contracts.
A
Yeah. It's really scary.
B
They could do a lot in that state.
A
But in the face of. All of this is where we win the war, because we face it, we override it, we bring recognition to it. We get out of the amnesia, we get out of the unconsciousness, and. And the fact that you're aware of it, you know, that's.
B
That's when they're like, I've been facing it. Like, some of them get scared when I call them out. Sometimes it's reptilians, Sometimes it's like, I don't know, demons or something.
A
But I can imagine what. With what you're doing, with what I'm exposing.
B
Yeah. But I love seeing their reaction when I call them out. I'm like, hey, I know you're there. Oh, my God.
A
They're really more scared of you. Really. They're just like, I hope he just doesn't remember.
B
It's all a power thing for them. Once you aren't scared of them, I feel like they lose power, you know?
A
Totally. And that's how it was with the Mars recruiters. And just most of the attacks, it's like, you know, even if. Yeah. The ramifications, even the threat of death, it's like, then I'll just reincarnate again. And.
B
Yeah, I don't fear death anymore. Like, I used to. I used to really think about it, but I've accepted it now.
A
Yeah.
B
Do you realize life is pretty fleeting? I've had six podcast guests pass away since I've started.
A
Oh, really?
B
And a lot. A lot of them were young, so it makes you realize, like, death is pretty. Pretty easy. If they want you to. If they want to get you, it's pretty Easy.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
So you can't be scared of it.
A
You can't be scared of it because you want your soul to be strong when you go to the other side. I watched so many paranormal things and, you know, stuck souls and just the trauma of what they couldn't complete and not being able to move on. But, you know, our soul journey extends so much beyond this lifetime. And. And I also think the fear is connected to wanting to complete what you came here to do. You're not ready to go.
B
True.
A
And so. But, yeah, releasing oneself of the fear of it, yeah, definitely helps. I've had on and off, like, feelings about it all. But the significant planetary conjunctions that happened in 2019, 2020, Pluto, Saturn, and Jupiter conjunct in Capricorn was when, you know, what hit 2019, 2020. And they wanted to weaponize the fear of death. And that's what really controlled everyone.
B
Covid. Right.
A
Yeah. And that was a major planetary alignment for initiating through the death portal into rebirth, into alchemy, into transformation, which is on the other side of death. Because death is never complete. Death is one phase of the process into rebirth, transformation, and alchemy. And so in our one physical incarnation, we can die a bunch of times and still keep the physical vessel interesting. But even when the physical vessel doesn't make it. Yeah, it's just so important that, you know, the soul stays as clear as possible. But all souls, I feel, return to Source no matter what. Even if they're captured. Yeah, because I just feel that the unconditional love of source is strong enough. And that's why every species eventually tries to heal. Even if they go on the route of becoming a gray or bioengineered or. They're always seeking to correct themselves. So there are some hybridization programs that are helping them to reassimilate themselves back into the soul. Like, complex. But there are some that are still bent on creating that separation. But there's a certain point in the timeline. That's why I see bifurcation looping back around like a toroidal field. And I see it almost like a heart, where no matter how off course you get, no matter how much this bifurcates, where there's, like, this trajectory into more enslavement or assimilation into AI, There's a seed that remains that diverts it back home again.
B
Yeah, that's the transhumanism stuff.
A
Yeah. And I just feel like all souls will return home. And if they get so far away, then the soul's no longer even in there. It's just robotic. It's just an automation npc.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
And I think also with the deep state collapsing, a lot of the souls that they've captured and contained will be released. Just like in the grids. There's a lot of fallen groups. There's a lot of stuck incarnate souls that are in these gates that are waiting to come out and be released.
B
Yeah. When they clone someone, the soul gets trapped.
A
Yeah. And there's dragon energies in stasis, too. And so much happening in the ley lines that are coming up now that are helping to, you know, set souls free from these inversions. Because the planetary grids, you know, like, literally captures things into this sort of hellscape, when true hell is like the creative cauldron of creation. That's why the goddess archetypes like Hekate and Kali and, you know, it's like the reclamation of that is. Is what creates that rebirth. So.
B
Yeah. That's why I used to fear death. I was Christian growing up, and hell really scared me.
A
Yeah. I grew up with a lot, like, the religion. And Eisenhower was raised really, really strict. They were like, Mennonite. Yeah.
B
Damn. Yeah.
A
Technology.
B
Wow.
A
Yeah. So when people are like, you know, thinking, you know, it's deep. Stay. I'm like, well, where's the money then?
B
How would they communicate with him if he didn't have technology?
A
I know, right? And. Yeah. And there's no family money. I mean, there's no, like. It just. Not to say money is like a bad thing. It depends who. Who. How it's used, but. Yeah. So.
B
So you grew up Mennonite or.
A
No, no, no, it's just Eisenhower did Anabaptist with Mennonite. You know, German, Swiss. But my father was more religious. My mom, not. Not. She's spiritual.
B
Yeah. It's good.
A
No, I was born in England. I grew up in upstate New York. We lived a relatively. You know, I don't like the word normal, but my mom had Secret Service men follow her to school, and she lived at the White House and was really, really close to Eisenhower's administration. There's a lot of pictures of her as a teenager, and they're just walking together.
B
And that's crazy.
A
Yeah. Yeah. But my generation.
B
No, no Secret Service.
A
No. I tried to call them before. Can I have some help? My mom even said to me, I really feel for your generation, especially with all that you're doing.
B
Yeah.
A
You have no protection. She's like, we used to have guards
B
because I feel like you need it. I thought all the President lineage. Got it.
A
No, no, stop after the grant stops. Yeah. And so she, she was like, you know, in his administration when he was working covertly or he was going against deep state things or he had his final speech. They had to guard the family because those were the major target.
B
Oh yeah.
A
And so there, there's no protection. There's, there's spiritual protection, there's. But no. And she, she gets that. And, and, and can imagine how, how hard it must be. But I wear protection in numbers. Like I feel like we all.
B
There's safety numbers. You mentioned Mars a few times earlier. What's the truth about Mars? Because like Elon's obsessed with going there.
A
Yeah.
B
Like what's, what do you think his reason is?
A
Well, I think there's many different levels to it. Just like with any planet like we see on Earth, there's subterranean civilizations, there's surface Earth, there's multi dimensional Earth. And this ascension process and which is a real deal thing connected to star systems, pyramids and all these sacred sites and our relationship with higher dimensional beings. So you know, Mars, the life on Mars got compromised when Maldek exploded.
B
What was that?
A
Around some of the Atlantean cataclysm times and the entry of the Anunnaki is somewhat around that area. It's different than Tiamat. Some people lump them into the same sort of. It's the same planet. Not saying that I'm right, they're wrong. But just for people to consider. Tiamat was more 5d earth and that was the original fragmentation. And then Malduk exploded. That was the male counterpart to this Earth.
B
Got it.
A
And so that compromised life on Mars. So being recruited to go to Mars knowing that they put bases on the moon and Mars and there's stuff going on on Mars. The recruitment had to do with terraforming Mars and being a permanent colonist. And there are species on Mars that are considered Martians or indigenous races there. And then supposedly like five Mars colonies that are refurbished ruins that act as a base. Like a base. And when I refused the recruitment, I guess what was going to happen, it was going to be terraformed. And it was just there were positive aspects and not positive aspects. My whole premise of not wanting to go is not that these were all bad guys. Even though it was a mixed bag and there were some pretty dark figures that were the recruiters called the Aviary. And anybody can look it up. They have code names that are bird names, but they're actually connected to my labs. In military. Well yeah, military abductions, artificial telepathy I wasn't my lab, but my partner was dealing with this weird manipulation and they used him as bait.
B
Damn.
A
Yeah.
B
That's crazy.
A
Yeah. And. But I was familiar with him because I had. They knew we had a soul affinity. They wanted to take our sacred union relationship and take it.
B
You trusted him.
A
Yeah, well, they. They were hoping, well, if we use him as bait, she's going to go wherever he goes. Because they. In past life, this, like, sacred union, hierogamic union, like, very much like the Grail King sort of like, scenario.
B
And they got in his head.
A
So. Yeah. So they. They brought him in. They really fractured him. And he would disappear for days. Wow. And not remember where he went. This is when I learned about, you know, he referred to a handler, and they couldn't get to me in that way, but they wanted to use him as bait.
B
Is that MKUltra or what was that?
A
Yeah, I think he was definitely under some of that. I think he. I don't know exactly, like, how this happened for him as far as his childhood is concerned, but his parents had a connection to the military, and I think it was when he was pretty young. But he was abducted. But it was what I was picking up was it was a military abduction. He was getting artificial telepathy, and they were trying to prop him up as this hero that was going to take us to Mars when they were really orchestrating it with this artificial telepathy. This is a voice to skull. Right. So I didn't have a whole lot of information at the time, but I was like.
B
Your intuition?
A
Yeah, I was like, this is what it feels like. This is what it sounds like. And. And I'm like, there's no way I'm going to go to Mars anyway. And this is when I started to, you know, get kind of epiphanies connected with artificial timelines, engineered events, superstorms, and how they can, you know, create Armageddon scenarios that would make us think that we need to occupy another planet to protect the human genome, when really we need to call out these dark technologies and the deep state and what's happening to even make that a possibility.
B
Yup. I think they're going to do a blackout this year. I think they're going to shut their electrical grid off and they're gonna push the Mars narrative or the Moon narrative, whatever.
A
Yeah. Yeah. Well, this is what they. And some have told me. Like, they did not think that you would refuse to go. They really thought they had you when they.
B
Yeah, that must have shocked them.
A
But at the same time they can sort of look ahead. And they knew I was a threat before coming in anyway, that this was just an attempt. I don't know if they could see because I heard after 2012, the looking glass technologies cannot see past 2012.
B
Really.
A
They only had that to work with. And then the rest was like chronovision that could be determined by the person that was looking through to see what timeline that individual was on. They could see through their eyes instead of.
B
Yeah, because 2012, that's when the world was supposed to end.
A
Right. And that was really when, you know, it was a time of like rebirth, when the opportunity for things to truly collapse was happening. And that's why they wanted to weaponize 2012 into an Armageddon scenario. And that's what I was thinking with the Mars recruitment. I'm like. Because I knew when I was born, I'm here for ascension. I'm here for the awakening of humanity. And that's all I knew and that's all I cared about. So there's no way I was gonna go to Mars. I don't care if it was a good idea or not a good idea. It was a mixed bag of both. I mean there are well intentioned people that were duped into pushing this agenda.
B
One way trip, right?
A
Yeah. And my partner, you know, was not just duped. He was fractured and not even really aware of what he was agreeing to.
B
Geez. So he went, no, he didn't go.
A
They basically let him go. They were like, well, you failed your mission. You were supposed to succeed in getting her to go. Go. And I had a dream where I had a choice. There was and this plan. It was an unbelievable dream where it really, really became clear.
B
And you're probably astral traveling.
A
Yeah. And it became very obvious. I made my decision. I told him and he said, well, they're going to take you anyway. And then I realized how dark this was. He said, when I met you at the festival, when I met him, I thought it was like, oh, we just fell in love and oh, he wants to go to Mars, but I guess it's going to be a public thing. He said, I was sent you were a mission. This was pre planned that I would find you there and bring you in. And then I was like, maybe we shouldn't be married anymore.
B
Oh, you were married?
A
Yeah.
B
Wow.
A
We had a Celtic hand fest. So it was a year and a day, but we did have a ceremony.
B
That's crazy.
A
And he spoke Gaelic. He had like this, you know, he had, he had such an organic, beautiful energy. And I just totally remember, you know, we, we used to have a love connection. I tried to wake him up to what I was sensing. And so my whole deal was, okay, I'm gonna stay and I'm gonna help along with many, call out the dark agendas and we're gonna take our planet back. And this whole Mars thing now, I think it's different than what it, than how it links to Mars recruitment and my sort of storyline and SSP related stuff. I don't know. I really don't know what to think of.
B
I never know with Elon.
A
I know.
B
Cause he's in so deep. Like there's no way he's not compromised in my opinion. I mean he's. When you're dealing with people like that, you don't get there by chance.
A
I know, right? I know. With all the money too.
B
It's like, yeah, he's the richest man in the world. Would you say he's the richest man in the world right now? It's crazy.
A
Yeah. So I'm always trying to like hope for some sort of dialogue or, or connecting point to, you know, some of these individuals out there, but it just never happens.
B
Yeah, yeah, man. They, they'd be planting people in your life. It's, it's crazy how like on edge you got to be sometimes like, am I meeting this person genuinely? Or like we're like, even when I travel sometimes there's people at me thought I'm like, this can't be a coincidence.
A
Yeah.
B
You know what I mean?
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
Like it's wild.
A
It really is. And I have some time travel people that like will email me and they'll explain like that they're doing the, and they're warning me about something. But sometimes the warning is to divert me from doing something that I'm supposed to be doing. But they, they try and create fear. Like they're like, don't go up to the, the roof of this particular event because they're going to do a sky watch. That's when they're going to assassinate you. And I'm like, so. And I'm about to go to the event that they told me.
B
That's crazy.
A
And I'm like, I'm going to be in the cafeteria, go up and do the sky watch. Just tell me about it later. And I don't, you know, it's like, you don't know because we have our intuition. Right. But then, you know, we're dealing with, with so much deception that you know, and then People have free will so they can flip and become a good guy all of a sudden. It's like. It's just.
B
Yeah. The free will stuff keeps me up at night too. I wonder how much we actually have. How much is already programmed. How much we have.
A
Right. Well, I know we have the free will to handle adversity and see through deception and then decide what to do from there. And we also have the free will to heal and recover. But we, when we're duped, though, it's not free will. That free will is being abused because you're being coerced into something you're being taught. You know, it's just like the world of relationships. You can be duped. That's why people get scammed all the time.
B
Yeah.
A
And we can see red flags sometimes. We might say to ourselves, am I just being critical? Am I being paranoid? Or is that my intuition? It's so hard sometimes.
B
Hard. Yeah.
A
Because, you know, sometimes a person might start off nice and then boom, they might have a voiceless call and all of a sudden do a 360 degree turn. I've had really benevolent people in my life that all of a sud. Sudden turn dark. Same that only were triggered to turn dark with me. And they're perfectly wonderful with everybody else.
B
I've seen that, unfortunately, with psychedelics a lot. I feel like that can make or break someone when they start going down that rabbit hole.
A
Right. Vulnerable people. I mean, can all of a sudden be a receiver of some sort of command or some sort of dark energy.
B
Yeah. Some demonic takeover or something.
A
Yeah. To target the person. Like people are targeted to target like you or like me. And sometimes it's a perfectly benevolent person if they weren't being screwed with. So. So it's hard not to get in, like.
B
Yeah.
A
Be a part of their world. But then one has to realize, like, maybe they're gonna turn dark all of a sudden. My poor husband.
B
Like, crazy.
A
I was so worried when I was first with him.
B
I'm like, that's like my worst nightmare.
A
Yeah.
B
I have code words with my wife set up if I ever get cloned or something happens. You need to. You need to do stuff like that because you just never know. I feel like I'm getting better at sensing it these days. Like sometimes I'll be talking with someone and I see a weird look and I'm like, the fuck? You know?
A
Yeah.
B
Like they're taking over or something.
A
Right, right, right. Yeah. So we have to be so strong in ourselves and. And. And just have these kind of Weird conversations and just be as strong as we possibly can and, and not consent. Be. Be really aware of all these different tactics being used and protecting the astral space when we go to sleep.
B
That's important. Yeah. Crystal salt, all that. Right. Protect your body.
A
Yeah.
B
Because you're pretty vulnerable in that state.
A
Yeah, definitely. So. But I. I feel so much is collapsing and so much is being de. Weaponized, you know, just through our ability to break through the programs to bring coherence and awareness to the things that. And. And you know, for missing time or if there's like lost memories, you know, there's all sorts of techniques to recover them. I've done a lot of hypno regression. I haven't done SSP or like been in some of these projects and programs, but it definitely has helped to dig deep in. Into things.
B
So I want to try that. I got a childhood memory. I want to dive into hypno regression. That's when you get taken back into that memory.
A
Yeah. I'm not really easily hypnotized, but.
B
Same.
A
Yeah, it just never seems to work or they'll be like, so take us back to. I'm like, I'm still here.
B
Yeah. Same. I think it's my ADHD or something. Yeah, I can't do it.
A
I know, me too.
B
But then someone did it without hypnotizing me somehow. Some psychic. And I was like, wow. Yeah, you're right.
A
Yeah. Yeah. It's better if people like look at the akashic or like just kind of like go into. And then. And then muscle testing. Like I do a lot of just kind of like does my body frequency feel in alignment? And if it doesn't, then I'm right. But yeah, I just. But I just know that there's so much available to help people to override all of this. And the beauty is, is that the planetary grids and the corrections, the sophionic corrections, the reclamation of the planetary body. The 13th sign which takes us into the laws of alchemy that helps the elementals purify from toxicity and from reversal. Energy being the social engineering that takes us into belief systems that invert our forward moving direction away from sovereignty. Because anything that we depend on outside of us is a part of that. And it's not about not having guides. It's not about not having assistance. But not at the cost of us losing our own ability to listen to ourselves and speak up. Because it's our body, it's our consciousness. Nobody knows it better than we do.
B
Yep. What's next for You. You said you're working on a book.
A
I'm gonna work on another book. I'm just writing articles right now on substack as the necessity comes up. I do want to write another book, but we'll see. I'm just doing a lot of events. I have more events this year than I've had in a long time, so.
B
Nice.
A
Yeah, it's very back to back.
B
Speaking or speaking.
A
Yeah, I just came back from Greece and Turkey and yeah. Then I packed up my father's house and then here and then New Living Expo, then Hawaii, then New York and then it's just, wow. Then Germany, then China and then Scotland and then England three times.
B
I'm like, well done.
A
Well, I'm just being really present in the now. Right. And just like staying as grounded as I can.
B
That's my favorite part about speaking. You get to travel the world.
A
It is really nice.
B
It's great.
A
And a lot of it, you know, I think people, I mean, a lot of it, I fund myself and just, you know, I do readings to help support that. Just to just really meet people and just get the word out. And it's a co creation. Like I never feel like I'm just on stage. I feel like, you know, we're all together and I just feel really inspired by the people in the audience because, you know, everybody is here. For a magnificent person, every single person counts in this is the most important part. To remember that we were born at a certain time where the planetary alignments were a part of its own cosmic intelligence to heal its own planetary system. And we come in to experience all of this, to bring this forth. And that's why there's so much that wants to separate us from that. So that we see the adversities as misfortune or a problem. Instead of understanding, we have to walk through inversion to bring it back into alignment. It's not a misfortune, it's a mission. And it's so easy to forget that. I'm not saying there isn't karma, you know, that's a part of it. But a lot of times it's misstep from past lives or recovering from being hijacked in past lives or whatever. But it's all to bring restoration and transformation that we're all encoded on the soul level to bring to this planet. That's why every purpose counts, Every soul counts. And that'll help to overthrow the vampiric, you know, forces that. And those that are enslaved and entrapped by them, that are being used and hopefully, they'll find their way back to Source. And I think it's going to be a lot easier to help souls in understanding what kind of childhood they had if they were traumatized as children, if they were thrown into this, and now they've become the handler or the perpetrator that if you can turn a perfectly benevolent person into assassin or a sex slave, you can reverse all of that through similar technology, but in a way that amplifies what's good again, what is authentic and what can align with the true soul essence so that the integration process can begin. And so many people are already doing that, like Kathy o', Brien, her book A Time to Heal. So many Light warriors have come in to experience that, to bring these teachings, to bring this reminder. And now that it's out there, you know, now the real healing can begin. Instead of us versus them. There's so many victims that have been caught in that trap, you know, that we might consider the enemy or, you know, compromised to a point of negating them completely. But they need our mercy too, and some don't. But hopefully we will have the eyes to discern.
B
Well said. That was fun. Well, how fun speaking all over the world this year.
A
Thank you.
B
Stay safe and we'll link all your stuff below.
A
Thank you so much. I really appreciate all that you do, and your. Your podcast is incredible and I've really enjoyed this conversation. So thank you and I'll see you again at some of these events.
B
I'm sure I'll see you around. Check her out, guys. See ya. If you learned anything from this episode or got any value at all, please share this episode with a friend. It helps us grow the channel, it helps us grow the podcast, and it means a lot to us. Thank you so much.
Episode: Your Dreams Are Not Random... | Laura Eisenhower | DSH #1977
Date: May 22, 2026
Host: Sean Kelly
Guest: Laura Eisenhower (great-granddaughter of President Eisenhower, author, public speaker, "galactic historian")
In this riveting episode, Sean Kelly interviews Laura Eisenhower, who shares her unique perspective on deep state conspiracies, galactic history, psychic warfare, and the hidden truths behind her famous great-grandfather, President Dwight D. Eisenhower. The conversation delves into deep state psyops, alien treaties, planetary consciousness, humanity’s struggle for sovereignty, and the battle for our collective timelines and dreams. Laura reveals insights from personal experience, her research, and alleged insiders within the secret space community.
Origins of Deep State and Shadow Government:
Eisenhower’s True Role:
The Power Hierarchy:
Timeline Wars:
Personal Psychic Targeting:
Dream Warfare:
Social Engineering and DNA Suppression:
Healing and Sovereignty:
Weaponization of Information & Planetary Alignments:
Orchestrated Wars & Collective Trauma:
False Narratives Around Eisenhower:
Education as Indoctrination:
Self-Authority and Community Leadership:
Future Visions:
Mars Recruitment & Secret Space Experiences:
Elon Musk & Mars Colonization:
| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:00 | Deep State, timelines, Eisenhower targeting | | 02:06 | Explaining the Griata Treaty, Nazi/alien alliances | | 04:57 | MJ12 takeover, shadow government, inside info from Dan Cooper| | 09:19 | Discussion on access to Area 51, Trump, time manipulation | | 11:22 | Ike’s Force and timeline correction, covert ops | | 14:34 | Roots of deep state, Illuminati, reversal grid tech | | 15:09 | Trauma, fragmentation, and archons | | 18:37 | Grid technology and human DNA limitation | | 22:04 | Weaponizing planetary alignments, false flag distractions | | 28:05 | WWII POW accusations, disinformation, family trauma | | 33:55 | Vision of decentralized, community-based leadership | | 35:47 | School indoctrination, waking up to hidden narratives | | 47:06 | Dream warfare and psychic targeting | | 54:13 | Truth about Mars, Maldek, and recruitment experiences | | 57:02 | Partner’s MK Ultra, military abductions, artificial telepathy| | 58:54 | Refusal to go to Mars, global awakening mission | | 66:58 | What’s next: speaking, writing, global events |
If you haven’t listened, this episode is a deep dive into hidden histories and covert wars shaping our reality—both on Earth and beyond. Laura Eisenhower ties together family legacy, secret government projects, psychic warfare, alien treaties, and humanity's path to healing and sovereignty. Key takeaways include questioning official narratives, reclaiming personal power, digging deeper for truth, remaining vigilant against disinformation, and nurturing community resilience. The show is both a spiritual wake-up call and a masterclass in galactic alternative history.