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If you don't invest in building those nutrient reserves before you get pregnant, baby is going to take what it needs out of you and you're going to left depleted. And for women, a lot of times we hear from them. We had anxiety or depression or postpartum, and I had hair loss. But then they got on a prenatal and those symptoms went away. So a lot of the kind of like mom brain or mom symptoms that we know normalize can actually be at the root of it, a nutrient deficiency.
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Wow. All right, guys, important episode today. We're going to talk fertility. We got the founders of Wenado, Ronit and Vita. Thanks for hopping on ladies.
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Thank you for having us. We're excited to be in Vegas, so happy.
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Welcome to Vegas.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, a lot of fun here, right?
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C
Absolutely.
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You're going to hit the tables tonight.
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I've seen the airport, pretty much it.
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Did you hit the slot machine when you landed?
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Not yet, but we will on the way out.
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The ladies love it. I love the slot machines.
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C
Oh, it's so fun.
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B
Yeah. The guys like the tables, but the ladies just love sitting there and spinning the slots.
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C
The penny slots. You could go for days.
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B
Yeah, for days. Big issue though, right now we should get onto serious topics. Fertility.
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C
Yes.
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B
It's a major issue right now, right?
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C
Huge. And really no one's talking about it, which is why we ever even created Wenatal, is that we found a huge gap in the fertility space, mainly that no one's looking at men's health, that women are carrying the burden in most parts of fertility on their own. And it's a treated like a single sport and it needs to be a team sport. And that's where we saw the biggest opportunity. And also there's a golden window of opportunity where people can prepare for fertility. And everyone that we know is just rushing and being told they're too old and we need quick and try. And actually, there's a huge opportunity the three months before to prep both partners and have better outcomes.
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B
So three months is like an adequate amount of time, you guys would say, for preparing.
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It's a golden.
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We say it's the golden window of opportunity. And one of our medical advisors actually calls this phase trimester zero. And really it's the time where you can improve your egg quality, your sperm quality, and the outcome of the pregnancy itself. I think sometimes when people are trying to have a baby, they kind of rush into it. And the narrative that we're told is like, you just need to, like, get pregnant fast, especially if you're older. You know, in our cases, we were both over 35 when we had our kids, and I was over 40 for my second kid. And, you know, the narrative is out there is like, okay, every month that goes by, you're losing eggs. The clock is ticking. But we know that when you actually take the time to improve your diet and lifestyle, you are in turn improving your egg quality. And, you know, for the partner, the sperm quality, which we love talking about sperm, which we could get into that. But I would say preconception is probably the most important trimester and can really set your kid up for lifelong health. And when we talk about the fertility crisis, which we could get into that trimester, zero really is the solution to the fertility crisis that we're seeing.
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B
Wow. So it really starts before you actually have the conception, right?
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100%. And it is the ultimately fertility, the ultimate fertility power move for three reasons. Reason number one is you want to make sure as a woman that you're building those nutrient reserves in your body before you actually get pregnant. And once you actually get the positive pregnancy test, there are a lot of nutrients that are critical to be in your system, like choline and folate. And so you want those nutrients in your body in advance. And then also when you're in your first trimester, a lot of of times you can't really eat healthy or take in certain nutrients, so you want to make sure to have that in advance. The second reason is sperm. And we'll talk about sperm. You know, we can really deep dive. We can really deep dive, but sperm has this incredible ability to regenerate. Every second of the day. A man is regenerating over 1,000 sperm.
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Wow.
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And so we know that it takes about 70 days to regenerate an entire sperm cycle. So men have a completely new batch of sperm every three months, essentially. And for women, we can improve our egg quality, but we're not getting new eggs. And so men are really, we call them the superhero of the fertility equation that no one is really paying attention to, but it's so important to pay attention. And that's why going into pregnancy and using this three months to improve your egg quality as a woman, to improve your sperm quality as a man is the biggest gift you could give your child.
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B
Well said.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Wow. I got a friend right now dealing with infertility issues, and he said, first of all, the clinics are packed, so you got to wait hours to see someone. But also, he's doing IVF right now, and he just told me that whole process, and it Sounded horrific.
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It's awful, it's hard, it's costly, it's hard on the body, and it's not 100% foolproof. And no matter which route you're gonna take, whether it is IVF or trying naturally, all the things we're gonna talk about today are gonna improve your chances. And that's why we're so passionate about this trimester. That's why Wenatal was born, because we were told there's nothing you can do, you just have to keep trying. And we actually found quite the opposite. The research and all of the science shows there's so much you can do, and we weren't empowered with those. So Wenatal is here to educate, empower, and help people prepare.
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B
That's exciting.
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And I think the bottom line is the IVF industry is a $20 billion industry. And so right now, our system is built in a way where it's like you're trying to conceive, you maybe are unsuccessful after six months or a year, and you go straight to ivf. But what we're hearing from our customers, our own experience is there's so much that you could do before you go down that route. Because ultimately in IVF you need one good egg and one good sperm. And if you have bad sperm and egg quality, IVF is not going to work for you. And so, you know, I can, I have a million examples that I could share with you. Like, we had this one customer, her name is Cassie, she had 13 rounds of IVF.
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C
Thirteen, I can't even imagine. Okay.
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Like I, this, this young couple was bit. They were, they went through so much. And then because you have to be
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on birth control each round, I mean,
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there's just so many drugs that you're taking and the ups and downs and the emotional roller coaster. And you know, on her last round, her doctor said to her, you know, as a last resort, maybe try a gluten free diet, anti inflammatory diet, work on your gut. And long story short, she ended up getting pregnant after she changed her diet and lifestyle and found Wenadal. And you know, when we hear that, it's like, how is a doctor saying that that should be their last resort? That should be the first resort. And that's why we're so passionate about Wenatal and about what we're doing. And we can share a little bit about our own personal stories and why we got here, but we hear, you know, up until this point, we launched our brand almost four years ago. We've helped over 30,000 families so far grow Their family. And you know, we're just so excited to continue to support and impact, you know, millions of families.
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B
That's impressive. You mentioned gluten free earlier. Have you seen a link with that diet and being more fertile?
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Well, there is a big, you know, there is a big impact with what we eat and fertility. Now, pinpointing gluten free, I wouldn't say that everybody needs to be on a gluten free diet, but what everybody needs to do is be on an anti inflammatory diet, eat real food, focus on the Mediterranean diet, which is what has been shown to improve both outcomes in men and women. And so, you know, a lot of people are sensitive to gluten. So a lot of times we say stuff, start there and see how you feel. But it's not like a one size fits all. Everybody needs to listen to their body. And if somebody is not necessarily sensitive to gluten, then maybe not. In this specific case that I talked about, she was.
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B
That's good to know. When it comes to the rough pregnancies, women that have issues, is that a lot of times diet related too, you
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think like in advance if they have. There is some research that shows that B vitamin deficiency can be linked to women that have a lot of nausea in their pregnancy. And so that's another reason why investing in this golden window of opportunity trimester zero is critical. You want to build all of those nutrients. Oh, and one last thing about that is also postpartum outcomes. If you don't invest in building those nutrient reserves while before you get pregnant, baby is going to take what it needs out of you and you're going to left it depleted. And for women, a lot of times we hear from them, you know, we had anxiety or depression or postpartum and I had hair loss. But then they got on a prenatal and those symptoms went away. So a lot of the kind of like mom brain or mom symptoms that we normalize can actually be at the root of it, a nutrient deficiency.
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C
Wow.
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B
I never knew that. Because some women do report postpartum for months, years, right?
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Yeah.
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Dang. That's crazy. You guys both mentioned you had kids after 35.
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Yeah.
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Which is kind of. Some people would say that's controversial to do. Right. I don't know, guys. If you're into optimizing your health performance or longevity, there's an event coming up that's actually pretty interesting. It's called Biohackers World. It brings together a bunch of researchers, founders and health innovators talking about things like metabolic health Gut Health, Stress recovery, longevity, and AI powered health systems. It's basically two days of conversations and technology, technology focused on helping people perform better and stay healthier long term. There are over 30 talks, 35 speakers, and more than 60 companies showcasing new health tech. If that's your world, you can check it out at Biohackers World and use code DSH30 to get 30 off your ticket. It's called Biohackers World. Check it out at Biohackers World and use code DSH30 to get 30 off your ticket.
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I would say that there is a big myth out there that after the age of 35, your fertility declines rapidly and basically you're screwed. But, but actually, new research shows that your eggs don't actually decline as you age. What declines is, you know, the mitochondria in your eggs. And so it's kind of like the battery pack in your egg. Maybe the power is slowly going down. So all women, all women should know is that you can actually charge that battery. And as you charge that battery, you can improve your egg quality. And we often talk about egg quality and not egg quantity. Yes, as you get older, you have less and less eggs. But focus on the egg quality and, you know, we can go into our story a little bit and what we did and what, you know, I had my daughter at the age of 42, naturally, on my first try.
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B
Wow.
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And my younger daughter, my older daughter at the age of 38. And there's just so much you could do. But when we were going through our fertility struggles, we were left with no guidance, no hope, no solutions, no knowledge. And that's why Wenatal is not just a supplement brand. It's a brand of education. We, you know, share so much information and content about how to improve your egg, sperm quality, your outcomes, and all of that good stuff.
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B
Well done.
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C
Thank you.
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Now one in five are infertile. A lot of guys are on TRT now. I'm sure that's worrying you. Ladies, these numbers are getting crazy, right?
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We know when we incepted the brand close to four years ago, or, sorry, five years ago, the numbers were 1 in 8 is what world Health Organization was reporting. And a few short years later, they were saying 1 in 6. And in the US, CDC is now saying 1 in 5. So you see how quickly this trend is growing. And we're seeing it across sperm health, egg health. We are not as nearly as fertile as our grandparents. So men today have half the sperm their grandparents did. Women today at age 20 are less fertile than their grandmothers were at 35. I mean, these stats are staggering, and they're only getting worse. There's a 1% decline on all of. You know, it used to be growing by 1%. Now it's looking to 2 to 3%. And some people might think, oh, that's not much. But it adds up quickly. And if you think about it like your own bank account, you take a little bit of a withdrawal here and there. Fancy Latte for $12, the Erewhon Smoothie for 20. In a few days, it might not add up to much, but in a few years, you're quickly out of money and out of options. And that's the fertility crisis. If we don't do something about it now, we will be out of options for the human population. And it sounds dramatic, but it's not. There are researchers like Shauna Swan reporting that sperm could get to zero by 2045. That's around the corner. She's even calling it a Spermageddon, which I think is hilarious. But these are fascinating research that's showing up now. So if we don't do something, if we aren't empowering people, and there are millions of people trying to have kids who can't, and that's who we're talking about. If we can't help them, our human population is at risk.
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Yeah.
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And by the way, one more thing about men's health and sperm quality, we're seeing the same thing happen to dogs, which share our home environment with us. So when you think about what is the cause and what is going on, you know, it kind of has to be our environment that we're living in. There's a mismatch between our physiology and the environments that are just like our bodies can't keep up with. And, you know, going back to my personal story is when I was 41, I thought I had this, like, wellness thing nailed. I was working with Dr. Mark Hyman. I was doing all of the things, and I thought I was taking the right prenatal. And I had already, like, detoxed my home from, like, plastics. And all the things that we'll talk about today, I was doing. And when I had my. I had a miscarriage at 11 weeks. And when my doctor looked at me and she just said, you know, just happens a lot after the age of 40 and there's nothing you could do. And luckily for me, I didn't listen to my doctor and I didn't listen to that idea of there's nothing I could do, because that idea didn't make sense to me, you know. You know, with all the guests that you speak to, that there's so much that you're doing on a daily basis that impacts every single health outcome. So why is fertility any different? And so I dove into the research and I found information that stunned me. And that information is that sperm quality impacts 50% of pregnancy health. 50%. And yes, we know that it's 50, 50, but really nobody was talking about it in that way. And Vita had a miscarriage a week before me. And so what we decided to do is, is kind of, as two couples commit to trimester zero, we put our husbands on all of these antioxidants that we know improve sperm quality, count, and morphology. We committed as two couples to, like, more movement. Really leveled up our game. And then I had my daughter Emma at the age of 42, and Veda had her daughter Davina three months after me. Yep.
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And I think what was crazy is that where we were given answers of, you're too old, there's nothing you could do. We were dismissed. I had two miscarriages, and both times, no one even asked my husband a single question. He was in the room. Meanwhile, I went through postpartum depression, analyzing every single thing that I ate, drank, the workout, the stress, the coffee. I mean, I really put myself through the wringer. And when she called me with that science, it was mind blowing to me. I mean, here I was working at Nike Global Events. That's where we met in our corporate careers, and I was literally planning global events with impeccable precision. I'm talking about what goes into athletes to make them great to show up on race day and put their best foot forward. But me, I treated my pregnancy like a casual jog. Like, I just was like, oh, we're young, we're healthy. We should just try. And it never dawned on me that there is, like, you know, the same thing that athletes do should be done for my pregnancy. I've run many marathons. Not sure if you've ever run, but most people don't sign up for a marathon and run. They actually sign up, get the right apparel, the training shoes, the training plan, maybe a coach, maybe some nutritionists, and they want to show up on race day and put their best foot forward. So how is it with this arguably most important time of our life that we're just fast forwarding the prep and most everybody we know just starts trying? And that became our biggest PSA when we learned that men who take these high dose antioxidants could four to five Times improve the likelihood of their partners having a healthy pregnancy and, and healthy child. I mean it was the moment that stopped us down our track. That was the moment that Wenatal was born. We had to do something for everyone who coming behind us and our company was simply born with the idea of prenatal care for her and him and really take out the idea that it's a one player game. We wanted to treat it like a team sport, really educate over the fear mongering that we saw was happening and create community over the isolation that we felt.
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B
That's major and it's such a good point because there's a lot of miscarriages these days and the men never get questioned for it. Right.
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I mean one in four pregnancies end in miscarriage.
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And wow, that's a lot.
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We know that a lot of the toxic behavior that is very common and even legal where we live, smoking, vaping, alcohol, those damage sperm, they go directly to the sperm. And so for us, education is so important because we don't want people to experience what we experience. It was probably the most devastating thing I've ever been to at that point in my life. And nowadays when we open our inbox every single day, I have people dming me saying I was told I had unexplained infertility or I was told that IVF was my only option, or they stop us on the street and say, meet my Wenatal baby. It's the most amazing, heartwarming thing. And I think back to my miscarriage and yes, it was devastating, but I'm also so grateful to that soul that came into my life and literally gave us the purpose that we have right now and the conviction.
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B
Powerful. Yeah. I worry going back to the TRT stuff, I worry with that because now there's guys in their 20s and 30s taking TRT and that's causing a lot of infertility. Right.
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That is one big thing that people don't know that testosterone when you're taking literally reduces your sperm counts to zero. And it could take a year off of it to rebound, but who knows? Like it could, it could even be longer than that. So anybody who's listening and wants to have a kid one day, they should be really think about these things and take it seriously.
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Yeah. Because the birth rate in this country is 1.2. I believe it's alarming.
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So US is about 1.7 right now. But you know, just to like keep our human population growing, we need to be at about 2.1 births per woman, half of the world is now dropping below 2.1. The US is wavering around 1.7. Italy's at 1.2, Japan's around that. And then South Korea. Alarming 0.8, and it's getting worse. And so this is, like, not a trend that we're seeing. This is a warning signal. And if we don't take action soon, we're doomed.
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Yeah, it's almost like we have to import people to maintain the 2.1. Right.
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Like, some countries are incentivizing kids to have sex so that they can have more kids. Their population will die. Think about, like, even from an economic standpoint, who's going to take care of the elderly if, like, there's no young, you know, new populations coming into the world? There is so many impacts beyond what we're thinking about today. And that's why it's so crucial to have this conversation. And no matter where anybody is in their journey, the fertility conversation is a human health conversation. It's not just, you know, on the individuals who are struggling. I mean, it's like a canary in a coal mine. When the canary stops singing, it's not the canary we blame. It's like the air. And so when we see this massive populations going down with birth rates and this problem, we need to look at the whole environment, everything around us, not just, like, blame the individual who can't conceive. And there is a big environmental problem. And like Ronit mentioned that our bodies are kind of not equipped. Our bodies have been the same for hundreds and thousands of years, but our surroundings have so dramatically changed. If you think of just technology in the past couple decades, it's as if we're like, we have a new iPhone 17 and we're running it on iOS 3. Like, it's not compatible. And our environments just change more quickly than we have.
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Yeah, yeah. I think, you know, to Vita's point, it's just that it's not that we're broken, it's that there's a mismatch between our body and the environment. And so with that, it sounds doom and gloom, but actually this is like the most optimistic conversation that you can have, because if we know what is causing this epidemic and this infertility crisis, you can reverse that. You know, our bodies right now are not feeling safe to reproduce, so what is going to create that safety? And if you think about the last 50 years, which this is when things have changed, so much have changed in the last 50 years. You know, the food that we're eating is made in a Factory that our ancestors wouldn't even, like, categorize as food. We're spending 93% of our time indoors. We're barely moving. You know, the toxins and the plastics in our environment. I mean, some research shows that there's microplastics in our bloodstream and in our arteries. And so looking at that, it's like, okay, well, a lot has changed. The stress that we're living, you know, all of the things. Okay, so. So what are the things that we could do? We can remove those fertility blockers and adopt these fertility boosters in this preconception timeframe. So what does that look like? I think it's kind of like three things that we like to look at. Number one is stress and sleep. Number two is what we put in our body and movement. And then number three is environmental toxin. And so going back to what Vida said, just tackling the last one on the environment. You know, of course we can't live in a bubble, and we can't detoxify our environment from every little thing, but there are a lot of micro actions that you could do on a daily basis that will make a big difference, like, you know, filtered water and filtering your air, opening the window, taking your shoes off when you walk into the door, detoxing your household from plastics, especially like in the kitchen, which is technically like the most toxic place in a lot of people's homes.
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B
Ironic, right?
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Ironic. So not microwaving in plastic containers and just being mindful of these little things. And this doesn't have to happen overnight, but if somebody knows that they want to have kids one day, investing in. In these things in your home environment will not only improve your fertility, but will improve your health in general. So that one is environment.
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Yeah, I love stress and sleep because it's what I struggle the most. I mean, especially stress, literally. We actually just had a panel with Dr. Natalie Crawford, a very predominant fertility and obgyn doctor, and she said stress isn't categorized as. Like, in the old days it was being chased by a bear. And so your body would literally go through cortisol over the roof. You would send the blood to your limbs as if you need to run. But today it's like the full inbox, the doom scrolling. Literally all these things that are just typically sedentary. And so you're not using that energy. You're literally sitting and all these stressors are adding up. And we're not prioritizing the basics that our grandparents did. So sleep is the foundation of your health. And I'm Gonna say that again because literally sleep is the one thing that I think is underrated, but it is the most important thing. And one of our medical advisors always says if you're in that fertility time zone or time of life, sleep over workout even, it is so crucial. It is the thing that repairs your body, processes the day, repairs your immune system. And so we're here to say, like find the things to prioritize your sleep. I bought an OURA ring that gave me the analytics that least like know what works for me. And I worked on it. Like it wasn't intuitive to me. Ronit's a great sleeper. I am not. And so what I did was I found things that worked for me, whether it was like a weighted eye pillow, a sleep weighted sleep blanket, red light glasses. So if I am doom scrolling, at least I'm not getting all the blue light. And so find things that work for you. But stress and sleep are hand in hand. Sleep is the one investment that I think isn't talked about, but could be the best investment in this time frame.
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And then everybody deals with stress differently, right? I mean I feel like not everybody could meditate, not everybody likes to journal. Gratitude is the antidote to stress. But you know, I would say to your community, find what works for you, because stress isn't going away. You just have to figure out ways to navigate the stress. And then the third thing is diet and movement, which we know that 70% of Americans are eating ultra processed food and they're overfed and undernourished. And so eating the rainbow, prioritizing protein, prioritizing anti inflammatory food. And I would just say there's animal studies that show that even what a man eats before conception. So like two weeks of ultra processed food in a man creates metabolic dysfunction in their child.
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B
Wow.
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And so this isn't just for the woman who is carrying that baby. This is on both sides of the coin. And then movement, you know, you don't need to work out like crazy. But we do know that weight training and focusing on your skeletal muscle mass improves fertility outcomes. We know that men who walk over 4,000 steps a day have higher testosterone. So get moving. It doesn't have to be that complicated. And everything that we talked about today is basically free. You know, you don't have to spend like go down the route of like a 30 step biohacking protocol to like become fertile. You have to think back to like how our grandparents were. We're living and how can we integrate that into our daily life?
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B
I'm glad you said that because there are some comments, I guess sometimes where it's like you need to make a lot of money to be healthy these days, but you could do a lot of free stuff.
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C
I feel like there's so much you can do that's within your control. You just need to be educated and empowered. I think so much of it is that people are not empowered with the right information and fertility especially. It's like this black box of misinformation. Nobody knows who to trust. And that's why when we created we, we assembled the best medical director board, Dr. Mark Hyman, Kelly Levesque, trusted names in the space because we knew it's important to have one source of the truth. And now customers look to us for every little thing. They're asking us what baby products to buy, what shampoo to use. I mean, literally we have a clean brand database because we've become a trusted resource and we love that because we didn't know who to turn to when we didn't get the answers that we needed.
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B
I still remember the, the JJ baby powder. Like that was a whole big deal, right? Huge cancer.
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A
Crazy.
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B
Crazy. So many people were using that product.
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C
Absolutely.
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B
I think my mom probably used it, to be honest.
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C
And it's kind of also why we created Wenadle. When you think about how much misinformation in the supplement space, I'm not sure, you know, but the supplements aren't regulated by the fda. So literally anyone with an idea could put out a product. And it's the wild west. And when we created the idea of Wenadle, we, we didn't know what the reception would be, what men would be willing to take. But what we realized is actually no one had a men's prenatal, which was a huge opportunity. And in the women's space, there was so many options out there, but nothing that really met the need of the latest science. Bioavailable ingredients, clinical dosages that matter, and a big PSA to your audience. If you're going to ingest the supplement, please make sure it's third party tested. That means someone on the outside is testing it. It's validating the claims they're making. It's making sure no toxins, heavy metals, poisons have leaked into your supplements. And let me just tell you, there's a lot out there. So it goes back to being empowered on the decisions you're making for you and your growing family. Being that advocate for your own health is only going to help you in everything that you do. But you have to do the research, you have to trust the brands. You have to read to learn labels and turn back. Some supplements have a whole paragraph of other additives, colors, fillers, binders. And so there's so much we learned in this space and we want to educate. Just whatever you're going to choose to make sure it's the right dosages. A premium brand that really delivers on what they say they do.
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B
Yeah, I only buy third party supplements. Third party tested supplements.
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A
Smart. By the way, there are a lot of supplement brands that say they're third party tested, but then don't share the third party tested results.
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B
Wow.
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So I just want to say always ask because if somebody's not transparent, doesn't send it to you right away, then maybe they're just using that as marketing. But we post all the PDFs from every single lot on our website because, you know, we want to be as transparent as possible with our community respect.
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B
I didn't know that. I didn't know you could just say that with no actual data. That's crazy.
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I mean, we're marketers and I'm like so flabbergasted by some of the marketing because there's nothing, it's like smoke and mirrors. There's nothing behind what they're saying. And it's easy to fall trap for some of these brands that have hundreds of millions of VC dollars and there's no integrity behind it. And so that's why I say, just be an advocate for yourself. Don't take my word for it. Do the research, show the label to your doctor. Doctors are blown away when they look at Wenatal and see the stack up. They're like, oh, I was recommending these things in like five different supplements. We worked so hard to get it all into one at three capsules a day. So again, we're just trying to make the experience better for those behind us. We wouldn't have created it if it didn't exist, if it already existed.
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B
That is crazy. You got me, you got me excited. I'm trying to have kids right now.
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C
So this is a great time of life.
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A
We're glad to talk to you about this. And I will say, like our men Vita was saying, we didn't know if the men would be like into the idea. But like, our men are obsessed with wenatal. When we launched Wenatal, we had a beta study where we put 10 men on the prenatal before and after and we looked at their sperm before and after. And these men, like quadrupled, tripled their sperm Counts motility, like, and now we hear from so many men that are like, oh, my God, now I have, like, this, like, such better libido, and my hair is growing. Everything is tied together. That's what I want your community to know, that, like, fertility is a marker of health. And when a man has low fertility, it is a marker of their health. And men with low fertility, actually, a new study from Stanford came out that shows that they actually have higher rates of cardiovascular disease later in life. And so improving your fertility now is amazing because you want to grow your family, but also it's a warning sign. And if we're bypassing sperm because we're going straight to ivf, you're missing this opportunity to invest in your health. And so we have one customer, John. We always laugh because he says that we need to put a warning label on our men's prenatal because he had two kids under two because he was taking Gueenatal, and his partner was able to get pregnant basically when she was three months. When she was three months postpartum.
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B
Wow.
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A
So that's nuts. I'm just warning you, Sean. I know you want to grow gold, big family. I'm just warning you two to three.
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C
I'm giving two to three.
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B
Our grandparents were different, though.
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A
Yeah.
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B
They had, like, eight to ten.
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C
I feel like, oh, my dad's one of ten. And I think.
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B
And that was normal back in the day.
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C
That was normal. And those siblings helped raise each other. And our world was just like, to the point of. Our world has dramatically changed. It was safer. There just wasn't as much fear, I think, of bringing kids in this world and things to do with them. So, yeah, it was a different time.
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B
A lot of women, I do hear this, they are, like, anxious about having children these days, you know, that I
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C
think, contributes to a little bit of the. The fear of, like, the world that we're living in and people choosing not wanting or not sure if they do. Because of the world.
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B
Yeah. And all the miscarriages and just the whole process is intense.
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A
Sometimes it's intense. But I'll tell to anybody who's scared that, like, listen, being On a trimester zero regimen is not. Is not like, you know, a 100%, like, you will not have challenges there.
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C
Challenge.
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A
But at least going into it, knowing that you did everything possible, that you improved your egg quality, your partner improved their sperm quality, and then the rest is left to God, you know?
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B
And so, yeah, you did everything you could.
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A
You did everything you could.
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B
Yes, you could go to Bed. And I know you gave it your all.
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A
Exactly.
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B
Yeah. I like that. That's kind of how I approach things. Even if it doesn't work out, like.
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A
And if it doesn't work out, there are bigger plans for you. You know, I think I've learned in my life. And even with this loss that I had, I was devastated, and I did feel like I was doing all the things. But, you know, Wenatal wouldn't have existed without this miscarriage. We wouldn't have been able to help, you know, 30,000 families and more. And so I think that also trusting. Trusting the universe and the timing and God and knowing that, you know, your journey might not be exactly how you planned it, but there are bigger plans for you. And, you know, when I think back to my miscarriage, it's actually one thing in my life that I hold onto now because I was just sharing with the guys outside that I lost my house in the Palisades fire. And, you know, that was devastating. My kids lost their school. We lost our community. Like, my whole life literally changed like that. And, you know, I think back to my miscarriage, and back then, I was, like, devastated. But look at all of the abundance that came into my life because of that miscarriage. And I know that one day I'll look back at this fire that happened and I'll understand why it had to happen to me and to my community, obviously. But I just want to say to your audience, like, if things aren't panning out exactly how you planned, you have to believe that there's a bigger plan for you.
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B
Wow, that's deep. Thanks for sharing that. I know that must have been a horrific thing to experience.
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A
It was nuts.
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B
I just saw a movie about it. It was unreal. Matthew McConaughey.
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A
You know, my husband actually started watching the movie, and he was like, I can't watch this.
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B
Yeah, the school bus one.
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A
It's just like, you know, when the systems fail you and you know that it could have been a failure. Preventable. It's just so difficult to watch.
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B
I bet. Yeah.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Traumatic. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah. So we'll include a link to everything if people want to buy some product and learn more information.
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A
Right, yeah, of course.
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B
Description.
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A
Of course.
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B
Anything else you guys want to share?
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A
We have a free guide. Wenatal.com guide is where people can start if they want to just learn about the importance of preconception. They want to learn about. You know, in this guide, we talk about even, like, how your oral health can impact your fertility. Do we know that.
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B
No.
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A
Everything is connected. Wow. Our health, our oral health, mind, body, everything is connected. So we go into that in our guide. We really have access to the best and most incredible leaders in the health and wellness space. So we have all of that information in that guide. What else on Instagram? We're wenatal. Wenatal.com is the website, and we have a masterclass.
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C
Wenatal.com masterclass. Anyone like you trying to have a baby in 2026? There's 11amazing episodes of experts in all different fields. A male urologist, a obgyn, a fertility doc. Just different experts to help you get prepped for a baby. And it's just amazing. We're trying to bring all the resources and all of our amazing access to these incredible physicians to people for free.
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B
Thank you for what you do, honestly, because I know people that have been trying to have kids for years.
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C
Yes.
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B
And they're having no success. So I can't wait to share this episode with them.
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C
Thank you.
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B
I'm really excited. Thank you, ladies.
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A
Thank you.
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B
Yeah. And I'm gonna try to continue using the product, so I can't wait to hear how you feel about it and
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A
how your wife feels on it.
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B
Yeah. I'll report back what happens in a year or so.
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A
Keep us posted.
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B
Yeah. Thank you so much.
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A
Thank you.
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B
Check them out, guys. Have a good one. If you learned anything from this episode or got any value at all, please share this episode with a friend. It helps us grow the channel, it helps us grow the podcast, and it means a lot to us. Thank you so much.