
What if your skin, sleep, hair loss, and gut issues were trying to tell you something deeper? In this Digital Social Hour Episode, Chris Motley returns for Part 3 to break down how he looks at the body through Eastern medicine, frequency therapy, organ patterns, and hidden stress signals most people ignore. Chris and Sean discuss cold laser therapy, parasites, acne, eczema, colon health, spleen health, food quality, hormone imbalance, hair loss, biofields, emotional stress, and why small symptoms may be worth paying attention to before they become bigger problems. This conversation explores Chris’s personal approach to wellness and alternative health, including how he connects skin patterns to organ stress, why he believes the spleen plays a major role in immune function, and how gut health may impact everything from sleep to energy to inflammation. They also get into colonics, coffee enemas, food recalls, depleted soil, hormone disruptors, livestock practices, testosterone dec...
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Dr. Motley
You can use red cold laser and violet laser to actually detach infections from your tissue. If you did a 70% cleanup to everybody's spleen, you would see a huge, dramatic change in everybody's health in this country. If you have hair loss issues, go get your hormones tested, do your hormone therapies, but please get your kidneys checked out in your bladder and get, like, a very intense.
Chris Motley
All right, guys. Chris Motley, Part 3. I'm honored.
Dr. Motley
I'm honored. I really appreciate the opportunity, brother. You know, every time I get to talk with you, man, I just really consider a very big privilege. Thank you, brother, so much.
Chris Motley
No, likewise, man. I've learned so much from you. And we just did a second round of treatment on me, and we found out a lot.
Dr. Motley
Right? We did find out some things, though. We did find out that you had some different types of viral and parasitic infections that we common caught up in the lymph nodes, remember, and causing some eye twitching. Because I think, like, the small signs and signals. When you said that I have an eye twitch, you have to, like, look at all the small ins and outs, because most people think it's just a muscle spasm. But it is interesting, though, when you retake the small signs and symptoms and you can actually dig a little deeper. So, yes, we found that in your lymph nodes, but ultimately we found that your large intestine and your lung had some deep toxicities, probably that we're working on and a little bit of emotions going along with it, but, yeah, it's good, man. How you feeling right now?
Chris Motley
I'm great. Yeah. I stop and I just knocked it up, the stress. But it wouldn't go away for a month, so I was like, all right, something's probably up. That's why I texted you.
Dr. Motley
Yeah. When. When you think that, like, a. Or when we think that something like that is just coincidence. The beauty about Chinese medicine or Eastern medicine is that you do try to not nitpick something, but always use those things as an avenue to find out there's something you can cut off at the past. And that's why I think about preventative medicine versus sick care. Yeah. I think that's what is why I'm so intrigued and drawn to it, though.
Chris Motley
I'm sure you've been getting a lot of clients recently, right?
Dr. Motley
Man, after we had our first talk, I remember I had so many more, like, people just contacting me to the point where I didn't know, like, how to handle it.
Chris Motley
Wow.
Dr. Motley
But I also know that as that came into Play. I started to change the way I like monitored people. And I say monitors, how did I care for them and treat them? And I've used cold laser therapy mixed with frequency monitoring devices. And we started doing that. And the great advertisement you did with helping me out, man, I mean, it's just boomed and got skyrocketed, man.
Chris Motley
Yeah. So was that laser device, the one you're talking about?
Dr. Motley
Yeah. It's a Class 3B laser. So I use a cold laser therapy, and most people would go to and get, like, muscle therapy, you know, with people with concussions or athletes, and they use cold laser to heal up tissue. But what most people don't realize is that you can use red cold laser and violet laser to actually detach infections from your tissue. Wow. So the wave of the future, in my opinion, is not necessarily finding new ratios of herbs to put together, which I love and I'll do all my life. But how can we use light wavelength and frequency sound to heal people? Could you imagine if you got into a room and you. And they're making them now, but let's put on a radio frequency that tunes into you to certain infections and kills them off. And. And they're already doing it.
Chris Motley
Really?
Dr. Motley
Yes. And they already show in certain hospitals that they would take ultraviolet light and flash the room with ultraviolet light and kill the infections. Wow. So why not do that in the body? Instead of, like, trying to, you know, create some kind of product that you have to spend a lot of money on, why not use light or sound? I think that's going to be what we'll see even more. Because I believe that with iPhones being able to monitor your blood sugar, iPhones being able to check out the blood oxygen levels, I think it would be awesome if you could find one that could monitor how much viral infections or how much parasitic infections are in the body.
Chris Motley
That'd be great.
Dr. Motley
And there's some people I know that want to do that, but I'm not the guy to do it. I just like to use it.
Chris Motley
We're getting there, man. My iPhone, because I just got the eight sleep mattress.
Dr. Motley
Oh, yeah.
Chris Motley
Measures how long I snore. It measures my oxygen levels, everything. It's crazy.
Dr. Motley
It is crazy. I think that when you can find out, like with oura ring, how much you are actually going into deep sleep, how much you go into restorative sleep, I think that they're going to be able to take those devices and be able to track frequencies in association with your sleep. For instance, if you're lying down at Night, and they call it the liver time. And you have an infection in your liver, guarantee they're going to be able to take frequencies and search out the body, find an infection and tell you, this is why you're not sleeping well. And I hope that it comes to that, because when people come into the office, they always will tell me this is one of the main questions I always ask is what is your sleep patterns like? And for a person just to know why they can't sleep, whether it's an infection, a parasite, yeast, mold, or viral, if you restore that, just the simple things in life that are restored. If you can make something to monitor, like the things that affect your simplicity. I mean, the person who demands is gonna be mega rich. But I mean, it's gonna be one of the best thing, though, you know?
Chris Motley
Yeah. So when you have a patient walk in your clinic and they have terrible acne or eczema, how often is that a parasite issue?
Dr. Motley
Pretty much. If I put it 100, I would say 95.
Chris Motley
Wow.
Dr. Motley
Yeah. And I would say with. If it's not parasitic, well, I'll take that. It could be 95 has parasites involved, but there's a lot of times that it's strep too.
Chris Motley
Strep throat?
Dr. Motley
Strep throat. Oh, that links to acne and stuff completely. Like, usually what you'll find is a person who has ever had strep throat multiple times when they're a kid. You will usually find that person has a jaw cavitation or major gum infections that they did not know about. And they'll always have acne, no matter how much they do to get rid of. They changed my diet. I did this type of cleanse. I did, you know, different types of light therapy, skin regimens. You check their jawline, their cavitations, like cavities in their jawline and their teeth, and you usually find that they have hidden strap.
Chris Motley
Wow.
Dr. Motley
And it will seep up their toxicity.
Chris Motley
Right.
Dr. Motley
What do you. What does strep like to eat? It likes to eat sugars. And what does it produce? Tons of toxins like formic acid. And what does it do? Get into your skin? It'll come out in your, in your face. Like, usually find people that always have, like, I always have a pattern here around my mouth. Strep? Pretty much, yeah.
Chris Motley
Because some people break out in the same spot. Right.
Dr. Motley
Every time. And in Chinese facial mapping, what you want to do is find out where you break out the most. Go to Google, check out the Chinese facial map, pinpoint which organ is the Toxin, the most toxic, and you'll usually find which organ you need to clean up. And so it's a double whammy. If you clean up the organ in your body, like, say, your liver, and the liver point does not clear up, that usually means the infection is local around the eyes.
Chris Motley
Oh, wow. Good to know.
Dr. Motley
So you can always use acne and rashes, rather, are the best way to find out if you have hidden chronic infections that could lead to something more major. So you never dismiss chronic acne or eczema or rashes. Now, I'm not trying to sound scary. You don't want to, like, look at it and say, well, you know, I'm gonna have something bad coming on. But you really have to pay attention that toxicities can lead to extra problems with that organ in the future, though.
Chris Motley
What about backne on your back?
Dr. Motley
Small intestine, sibo. If you have acne on the shoulders around the shoulder blades, please check for sibo. Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. It means that you have a displacement or imbalance ratio of a bacteria in your small intestine. So it means belching gas, constipation, diarrhea. That's what's making you break out in your back. If you have it down the center of your back, all the way down. Bladder and kidney infections. So you can actually say, oh, I have acne all the way down my neck, all the way down to my tailbone. That person has a hidden chronic uti. Wow.
Chris Motley
A uti.
Dr. Motley
Uti. So you can find out if that person has that or a small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. Usually that person has had some form of major infection or their parents passed it down to them. That's why.
Chris Motley
Interesting.
Dr. Motley
So always pay attention to back knee acne. Or even when I tell people, check out, like, the rashes around your knees, like psoriasis or any type of eczema. You have to remember that infections not only love organs, but they love joints. So pay attention to the pattern if it's around the joint. I always have patients look for infections like strep, strep, and staph in the joint. So you can get a lot of information from a person just by the placement of what's going on in their skin. Yeah, yeah.
Chris Motley
Which organize the most problems you're seeing right now.
Dr. Motley
Spleen.
Chris Motley
Spleen.
Dr. Motley
Spleen.
Chris Motley
How come?
Dr. Motley
The spleen is a sponge. And this may sound a bit boring to some individuals out there, but when I look at the spleen, it is a sponge that soaks up your blood and filters your blood so, quick backdrop. The spleen also filters your lymph nodes, but the spleen sits right on the side of the stomach. So if you imagine your stomach, your spleen, the spleen is there to pick up all the junk running through your bloodstream, and that's in your digestion. So what we don't realize is that we've had so much strep infection. You know, when you're young, you get mono Epstein Barr virus, and you have a horrible diet with lots of sugars and carbs and starches. The spleen gets infected and becomes weak. And this is the kicker. Your blood is basically flowing through the spleen. And spleen is doing what? Producing white blood cells to clean up your blood. But if your spleen gets toxic, it won't filter your blood, and so you'll have revolving toxins all the way around. But for me, not only is the spleen taking a beating because of our diet and for toxic strep, but it has to do with the emotion of the spleen in the pancreas.
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Dr. Motley
And in our culture, we find that we can be of culture that says, my feelings are not as important as somebody else. I have to take care of somebody else or something, right? And if you have that feeling, you'll tell your body the same thing you'll tell your body, don't go mending, don't go out and heal. And so the spleen listens, and so it won't sit out the white blood cells. It'll actually pull them all back into your spleen, causing spleenomegaly swollen spleen, and you'll start to have spleen imbalance. You will not filter your blood. You will not clean. You will not have an immune system. So the spleen, in Chinese medicine, is probably one of the biggest things that you can clean. And that's where strep is hidden. And I'll tell you this. If you clean the spleen out of. If you did a 70% cleanup to everybody's spleen, you would see a huge, dramatic change in everybody's health in this country. Problem solved.
Chris Motley
That's so fascinating, because I had a low white blood cell and vitamin C count growing up, and I used to always care for people. Like, I was such a giver.
Dr. Motley
Yep. And you always did more for others. So you're telling your white blood cells pull back in, do not mend anything in the extremities.
Chris Motley
Right.
Dr. Motley
And then you will actually do this. You'll pull all your white blood cells to your spleen, and it'll push them on the wall. And after a while, your body says, there's too many white blood cells on my spleen. And so what does your body do? I have to tear them off.
Chris Motley
Dang.
Dr. Motley
Because it's swollen. So your body will attract bacteria to your spleen to cause necrotic tissue to fall off. So then you start getting chronic infections of strep, Epstein barr virus. Everything starts to attack your spleen because you literally told your body, hey, I'm not that important. Everybody else is more important.
Chris Motley
Wow. I never would have thought that. That's crazy.
Dr. Motley
It is. It gets. It gets the point where you think, man, my emotions can create a lot of physical problems, right?
Chris Motley
Yeah.
Dr. Motley
And I love that kind of talk, too, man. Yeah.
Chris Motley
So a lot of my friends are getting colonics now. What do you. What's your opinion on colonics?
Dr. Motley
Love them.
Chris Motley
You love them?
Dr. Motley
I love colonics. But there's another argument, too. Some people say if you get a colonic, you're going to tell your colon to stop having bowel movements if you keep doing them all the time. If you cannot have a bowel movement, your body probably has so much toxic crud within the colon that it's probably deadening the nerves. Right. So the infections cause the nerves not to work properly. If you clean them out with the colonic or a coffee enema, at least you scrape the walls, and you actually give the chance to the nurse to actually pick back up and to get revitalized. I have never seen somebody get so many colonics that they stopped using the restroom. I mean, I've. I've never seen it. And so when people say, well, it's going to wash all the good bacteria out, I'm like, if you're not having a bowel movement, you already do not have good bacteria in your gut. I mean, you basically have bad bacteria. You need to wash out as much as you can and then replenish. That's what gets me about sometimes in health care. It's just like there's always a counterpoint to something that's good. You know, they're always going to try to find something wrong with it.
Chris Motley
Always, always, constantly. I see that media.
Dr. Motley
And so colonics, good for me. Coffee enemas, man. The cleanest people that come in are the ones that do like weekly or bi weekly coffee enemas.
Chris Motley
Really? What is that? I've never heard of that.
Dr. Motley
They just basically take a tube and stick it up the rectum. But what they do is they actually take coffee, organic coffee, and then they'll allow gravity, this gravity flow from basically a bag of coffee. And it actually pushes coffee up into the anal area, up into your colon. So when you go and drink coffee, or if somebody drinks coffee, you know what? I have to have my best bowel movement right after I drink coffee. Yeah. Because the actual components of coffee will stimulate your colon to move. So they do it in reverse. So it actually has been shown that coffee can kill certain parasites and it can be antimicrobial.
Chris Motley
Wow.
Dr. Motley
Because it's a bean. Right. And so they'll get you right by the toilet or you do it yourself. And when they push it up there, you pull the tube out after it gets sucked up into your colon. And your body will take all the components, do its number, and you go sit on the toilet and you'll flush everything out. Wow, man. I'm telling you, there are so many people that come in that have so much parasite that come out. They literally call me one. Like a patient comes in and says, hey, I just let out an 18 inch worm. Holy crap. Not even joke. Like. And they, like, I had another one come in last week and she said, hey. She goes, I've never seen more many round worms in my life. She goes, after the coffee enemas. And when they come in, they're so clean in their colon that it relaxes the whole system.
Chris Motley
Dang.
Dr. Motley
Because everything's flowing. Isn't that cool, man?
Chris Motley
Knots.
Dr. Motley
I tell you, there's one doc I know, and I won't name names. He made a huge success just because he just promoted coffee enemas.
Chris Motley
Really?
Dr. Motley
Cleanup mold.
Chris Motley
He sold them or sold him. Wow.
Dr. Motley
And I mean, hey, if you were telling me that, what would you do without having to take supplements or herbs or something? Yeah, do coffee enemas. I mean, you may have to do them all the time and make a lot of coffee, but I'm telling you, it will clean you up though.
Chris Motley
I have to look into that.
Dr. Motley
Dang, man. Try just check into it. Just check into it and give the report to the guys out there.
Chris Motley
Now they're telling people to get colonics like in their 30s, 40s. You think that's a little too late?
Dr. Motley
No, never too late. I have patients that have had chronic sickness. In their last patient I talked 74, she had chronic sleep problems and she could always have anxiety and jitters. So she'd wake up around 2:30. And in Chinese medicine, that's the hour for the gallbladder. And I found high amounts of flukes in her gallbladder. And. And she was getting all this information from everybody. So she'd say, well, I'm gonna go ahead and take anti parasitics. She'd do pretty well. And then she came in two weeks. No, three weeks ago, and she had no signs of them. I was like, what did you do? And she goes, well, for the last month, I did a coffee enema every day. And she goes to her doctor, her primary care, clean as a whistle. Blood pressure went down, anxiety gone. Her cholesterol had been balanced out.
Chris Motley
Wow.
Dr. Motley
Think about it. Just because you get rid of all your parasites. And so if anybody says it's too late, it's never too late. I mean, I have people that do new regimens and they're in their 80s.
Chris Motley
Yeah.
Dr. Motley
And they rock it, man. They do really well. Yeah.
Chris Motley
What's the longest parasite you've seen
Dr. Motley
on camera? I've seen a six footer.
Chris Motley
What?
Dr. Motley
Yeah, because. Yeah, on camera. It was a tapeworm.
Chris Motley
She.
Dr. Motley
And I was out of a kid. Out of. They were doing. They were doing work out in Africa and No, not talking bad about kids in Africa or anything, but they had Kwashikor syndrome where their protein gets so big, but it's. It's worms. And they would deworm them and they were pulling them out.
Chris Motley
Oh my God.
Dr. Motley
And it would just kept pulling out and they'd be like little piles there. And this is from Purdue University, the videos they make, because they're people that went over there and helped them out.
Chris Motley
So how did they get those over there?
Dr. Motley
Usually you get them from a lot of places. Mostly tapeworms come from infected water. So you can get tapeworms. Well, you can get round worms from the soil because they're a natural part of it and goes up into your feet if they're small enough and they can move in there. But a lot of times they'll get pinworms and pinworms, they'll migrate, they'll go back up north. So you have these kids that get it and they just goes and infest their intestines and their liver and their brain. And usually you'll see it where they're drinking dirty water. And, man, dirty water is probably one of the biggest cases. But also vegetables and fruits carry a lot. If they don't have like, you know, fruits or vegetables with a lot of minerals, those are the perfect breeding ground for infections. If they don't have really nutritious fruits or vegetables. So non organic, Non organic, anything that's been basically so, in a sense, pasteurized and just so modified. The parasites usually can be fought off with nutritious, basically, vegetables and fruits. So if you're eating things that are non organic and that are not full of minerals and vitamins, probably more of a possibility that you could have, you know, parasites in the.
Chris Motley
Yeah, because. Plus they're using tap water to water it too. So.
Dr. Motley
Oh, man.
Chris Motley
Getting hit from all sorts of angles
Dr. Motley
and then all sides, man. Because. Have you read those reports? I know you had Kim Rogers on your report. There are so many reports that patients have told me personal patients come in and they would come in with E. Coli and I'm like, where in the world did you get all the E. Coli from? And they're healthy, they're not like sick. And. And she goes, you're going to laugh at me, but I live with the cool well water. And we had a pretty good filtration system, but we did straight well water. And the city had not reported to them that the well water in the place were highly infected with E. Coli bacteria. For six years she was drinking it.
Chris Motley
Oh, my God.
Dr. Motley
Could you imagine how much bacteria is in your gut after six years?
Chris Motley
A lot.
Dr. Motley
And then. And I'm not saying it caused it, but this patient has problem already with hot flashes, almost like menopausal type problems. And doing some investigation, doing a stool test, high E. Coli. And she also had Intamoeba histolytica. Parasites started to flush it out. Periods got okay. All the hot flashes went away. So. But it may take a little Bit longer. I think it took me about six months to get that cleaned up.
Chris Motley
Yeah, I don't know if I'm a fan of well water, man.
Dr. Motley
You have to. You got to be careful, man.
Chris Motley
It's got to be running, right?
Dr. Motley
Yeah. I mean. And so when they say well water, some people say, well, it's spring and it's fresh. I'm like, unless you're high in the mountains where none of that bacteria or those parasites, you know, reside. I mean, goodness grace, you go on the CDC and they'll tell you, like, how do you get something that is like a fluke? And what it is, is like snails and shrimp eat our bottom feeders and they get these parasites in them, and then sometimes fish eat them, or sometimes we eat them or livestock eat them, and they get infected in their guts into their bloodstream, and then we eat something with a lot of blood in it, and then we get flukes.
Chris Motley
Wow.
Dr. Motley
Same happens to water. I mean, things are like, in the soil and they jump in the wall stream and you're like, well, it's not filtered. Like, do you ever have those times where they give you those filters that you go out into the. You know, they say, oh, nature now. Don't even know. I'm not talking about any. Any brand. Yeah, yeah. I'm just saying I don't know. I don't know if I'm going to, like, put like, dirty river water in some tube and squeeze it through and I'm like, yeah, I'm going to drink it. I'm like, I've seen those. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. But I don't trust that enough. Yeah.
Chris Motley
I used to love me some bottom feeders, some lobster and crab. Oh, but I've been. Tone them back.
Dr. Motley
Tone it back, man. The flukes, man. But if you like lobster, don't get me wrong, have fun. But it's. It's pretty much a prominent thing where you see now, like, there's so much parasitic infection that are taking place in people's guts, and they're saying, why is it so prominent? But truly, parasites eat off so much of the starches and carbs, and we, you know, we're filled with preservative foods, you know, and there's. There's a perfect breeding ground, so no wonder it's growing.
Chris Motley
Right?
Dr. Motley
And, you know, radiation doesn't help either, so.
Chris Motley
Absolutely. Do you think the monitoring technology has just gotten better? Do you think there was this many parasites when you were growing up?
Dr. Motley
I think there was this many Parasites. But I didn't think we weren't as sick. I think that, you know, on the farms that. I remember my grandmother used to tell me she worked on a farm down in Georgia, and she said that she was able to. They did either turpentine or kerosene, and they did a cleansing every three months.
Chris Motley
Wow.
Dr. Motley
So they would just say they would poop out all their parasites and there was no preservative. She lived till she was 93, and she ate honey buns and drank buttermilk and she. She still lived to 93. She got some dementia at the end. But what hat, in my opinion is she was healthier because she wasn't so full of toxins, and she probably had parasites all her life. But, you know, think about how much, you know, kids eat pixie sticks in starbursts and, you know, they're in their guts eating it up, and now they're stronger parasites. A weaker person, hate to use that term, but really it's not. There's no strength there. And in Chinese medicine, they say the internal cheese so low, those infections are going to move to where the biggest meals at. So to me, it's just a culture that's gotten sicker.
Chris Motley
Right.
Dr. Motley
I think it's always been around. There's some infections I think haven't, but.
Chris Motley
Yeah. Does this boar's head outbreak surprise you at all?
Dr. Motley
Mm, no, I don't think it does surprise me. I. I want to get into it, but I'll say this. It doesn't surprise me, I think. And we can go into that too,
Chris Motley
because cold cuts just seem like an easy target to get infected. Right.
Dr. Motley
Yeah, I. And I think that when we talk about, like, any type of, like, food or like, they said they had a recall. I forgot what my friends told me that a recall, like, three weeks ago. But when you find that one product had all of these recalls, like, this kind of infection is within. I'm like, what sources? Where are all the same pigs or all the same animals harvested in one area? Does it surprise me? Not with the types of conditions that most of these types of livestock are grown in. If it's, like, within the norm, if they have that are kosher, you know, or something, that the livestock's growing in a. In a good, clean environment, but most of the time they're not.
Chris Motley
I've seen so many recalls this year, it's nuts.
Dr. Motley
It is, it's. It's surprising, like, how much things are infecting not only livestock by produce. And I. In our past, I don't think we've seen as much. I seriously wonder. It has to be that there's something in the air or the water or something that's causing these things to like kick up and see. Or maybe it's just what we're seeing in the social media. I'm not sure, man.
Chris Motley
Yeah, maybe we weren't watching as, as intently as we are now, but I feel like every week there's a major like vegetable or fruit fruit recall.
Dr. Motley
I do think this too, and I'm with you. I think that there are some watch groups which I think are really great, that they're actually looking at the actual outbreaks and say no, these are causing people to get sick. Because in the past, you know, like big corporations would basically say, oh no, that's crazy, there's nothing going on here. But there are those, I would say the, the individuals that have great websites and have great chat groups that tell you about what's really going on. Like if you ever had some, you know, kids in one area getting completely sick all the time and they're all eating the same chips, you know, at least there's a watch group out there too. So I think it can go both ways. I think we have bad conditions for food production and I think this day and age we just got a sicker culture, man.
Chris Motley
Yeah, well all the local farms are going out of business and it goes to mass produced farms and then the conditions are just neglected.
Dr. Motley
Right. Oh my goodness. I mean you can't even run something proper or have something that's like giving you well nourished produce when you're that big. And so now all the small mom and pop farms and sadly, I don't know if you've read about this, but there's a lot all over the world, I mean of the country especially where all these small ones are just getting bought up.
Chris Motley
Oh yeah.
Dr. Motley
And you know, that's. But, and I hope I don't get too far fetched into it, but what gets me is that if you look at our culture in the 1960s and 70s, you start to see where a lot of our biggest problems came in those timeframes. What happened? They took the lands and they took the small farms and they created big ones and they started to fertilize with fertilizer that threw out and took out all the trace minerals. So they just put like some sodium, some potassium and they put a little calcium in there, but they took all the other trace minerals and all these cows are eating all this good wheat and grains that have all these good rich minerals keeping the cows healthy. They, they didn't have any problems. But now you're like, it's money, man. So we're going to give a little bit. And all the cows are getting sick.
Chris Motley
Wow.
Dr. Motley
And then they pump them full of antibiotics. They got mucus running out of their nose, they got milk that's getting produced, that has tons of bacteria and then you've got these sick livestock and then that converts to sick people. So just think about like large farms, more money, lower like investment, the proper growth with good minerals and vitamins for the livestock. So I hope to go, I didn't mean to go on that rabbit trail but man, it's like what's happening though?
Chris Motley
Oh, it's man, I heard the soil is very, it's depleted, lacking nutrients.
Dr. Motley
These days there's, and even like, you know, for organic farms, you know, they say that it has to be out of being sprayed with fertilizer by three, four years. That's it.
Chris Motley
That's it.
Dr. Motley
Yeah. But think about if a fertilizer has a half life of 25 years, if it's got metals in there, so how long will it stay there?
Chris Motley
That's crazy.
Dr. Motley
So I mean, I'm not trying to be negative for people doing organic farms. I'm just saying like you had to be really careful about where you buy your stuff. But don't be so hyper vigilant where you get sick, you know, like into your heart and. But it is something that we need to know.
Chris Motley
Yeah. I'm not a fan of injecting the animals either.
Dr. Motley
I think that we have to be careful when you inject like even like with antibiotics or even with chickens and such. Now they're showing like six week lifespan. Yep. And they pushing so much high estrogens into these and antibiotics into these livestock. I'm not saying this, but I will say that even in practice and in clinic, we're seeing younger females and younger males come in and they're developing quite a bit faster, you know.
Chris Motley
Really?
Dr. Motley
Yes.
Chris Motley
Like, like they're going through puberty.
Dr. Motley
Going through puberty. Puberty. I've seen some as young as 8 or not. I'm not kidding. That's unheard of. Not trying to sound, you know, you know, alarmist, but when you see that they're growing that quick and in that way you wonder how. And so, you know, chicken and fish, I mean chicken and beef that get injected and then you transfer all that estrogen and all those hormones if they're mimickers and people may already know this but if they call estrogen mimickers, what the body says is estrogen is being mimicked, so it's doing the same job as attaching to the estrogen receptors, so the cells getting activated. And so you got these estrogen mimickers, which could lead to, like, cancerous activity, but it's causing high amounts of estrogen overload.
Chris Motley
Wow.
Dr. Motley
So that's why you've seen all these kids, like, you know, they're bigger. Like, they're bigger quicker. And that's where you get obesity. Yeah. And then, you know, and then you take individuals and that have got this going on, like, at a young age, and then you put them a lot of sugars and a lot of starches and a lot of, you know, fake fats and preservatives. You're going to get obese. An obese nation, unfortunately. And I hope that doesn't sound like I'm being, you know, harsh or negative, but that's one thing that you're starting to see is like, we're seeing a very high rate of obesity in our country at younger rates.
Chris Motley
Yeah. I don't think you're being harsh. I think you're just following the numbers. Numbers don't lie.
Dr. Motley
Yeah, that's exactly. And I think it's kind of hard, too. Like, when you're even in, like, alternative or natural healthcare and you see, like, how people get sick. It hurts your heart, you know, like, because there's things that could be preventing it, like, you know, just changing the diet, like in our school systems. And I'm just. I can't believe, like, some of the children, when they come and they tell me what they're eating at school. Have you ever seen, I mean, Lunchables? Oh, man, I. I'm. I'm surprised. And it makes me mad. So I know that I can't focus on it because I do get mad. People say, you never get mad, Motley. And I'm like, that stuff makes me mad, actually.
Chris Motley
Yeah. When you're talking the innocence of kids, it's upsetting for sure.
Dr. Motley
And they don't know any better. They're like. And then by the time that they get to, you know, they say that when they wake out of their sleep, if they're in Delta State by the time they're 8 or 10 years old, they've already been trained to say, like, Cheetos are great.
Chris Motley
Wow.
Dr. Motley
And their brains already, you know, they're already nourished their brain saying that this is going to be. This. This is actually good for me. Their, you know, versions of like having good vegetables and fruits would be having a good fruit roll up. I literally have had patients and I'm, they'd say, yeah, I got enough fruits, I get roll ups. And I was like, I'm not making fun, but it's not fruit. You know, it's just how our culture's like been.
Chris Motley
You know, estrogen's going up, testosterone's going down.
Dr. Motley
You know, it is now we're getting things that pull the testosterone down. And you're seeing more men, especially now, like with their testosterone so low down, like in the, just the double digits.
Chris Motley
Oh my gosh.
Dr. Motley
I've seen some that I can't believe that they're still operating. And you look at where they're at and they're saying, well, I'm going to orange theory, I'm going to D1. I'm working out as hard as I can. I can't lose any of this weight. It's just staying on. And their testosterone is being drained. Because there's other biochemists I've seen on your show that are the smartest people. Like, they, you know, they tell you what's going on. But biochemically what will happen is your body, your liver is going to pump out as much pregnenolone as it can to be converted to proximity, proper testosterone. So if you're out, you know, I'm working, you know, I'm going out and being a farmer or if I've got a hard day, you know, doing whatever I'm doing, your body's going to take it and make as much testosterone, right? Yeah. But if we live in high cortisol, which is what, high sugar, you're going to take all that pregnenolone, all that basic structure and turning into cortisol and stress hormones to handle your day instead of making testosterone. So instead of getting stronger, I'm just going to create, what, more fat cells. So you, you're going to create a system where there's going to be more of that tire around the gut than strength and vitality. So people have to go get testosterone shots or testosterone pellets.
Chris Motley
Right.
Dr. Motley
So we're seeing it more. But really what they say, what's the solution? I'm not saying I have a solution, but I would say that if you have that much cortisol and had that much adrenal stress, what would you do? Oh, I'll just zen out, which is a good thing. But you're gonna have to identify the things that are literally causing you go into fight or flight, whether it Be your jaw, your mate, whatever, you know, task you have at hand. The infections in your body, the work environment, you have to find out what it is that's causing that. That cortisol to kick on.
Chris Motley
Right.
Dr. Motley
So I know there's a lot smarter people that talk about it, but you have to find those sources and eliminate them if you can.
Chris Motley
Absolutely. Are you seeing a lot of hair loss?
Dr. Motley
Oh, man. I. I did. I think I talked about this video before. I did a video about hair loss. It went. It went kind of viral because I never really had viral videos, you know, and I talked about the bladder. And in Chinese medicine, there's a thing called the bladder meridian. And the bladder meridian basically is an electrical pathway that runs from between your eyes, down over your head, down to back down your neck, through your. Down past your glutes. But one of the biggest signals is hair loss if your bladder is infected. And some people say, well, what does that mean? Testosterone is dropping, causing high dht, which is a form of testosterone that makes your hair roots loose. So you already have that. And you're starting to see cultures that have such high sugars in such high infection rate that what is your body trying to. Trying to filter it. So it's going to filter through your kidneys and your bladder. Right. That is also, in Chinese medicine, associated with the emotion of fear. So we're in a culture. What do we do? We're like, we got to get ahead. We can't be behind. I'm gonna. I'm afraid I'm gonna get behind. Which will drain your kidney and your adrenals and make your bladder weak. Wow. Which will make the meridian weak, which will make your hair loose. So you're starting to see that hair loss is not only happening in men, it's happening in women.
Chris Motley
Whoa.
Dr. Motley
Most of the people come for hair loss are women.
Chris Motley
No way.
Dr. Motley
In the office. Wow. Yes.
Chris Motley
That's scary, because as a woman, your hair is very.
Dr. Motley
That's what you want. And then you think. And I would venture to say, out of 10 patients, eight of them have chronic UTI or bladder infections, or they had it when they're younger and they just gotten vamped up.
Chris Motley
Holy crap.
Dr. Motley
Yeah.
Chris Motley
So people don't even know they have them.
Dr. Motley
No. If you have hair loss issues, I'm not saying it's the only thing. Trust me. Go get your hormones tested, do your hormone therapies, but please get your kidneys checked out in your bladder and get, like, a very intense bacterial check. Go to, like, micro gen DX and get something to Test it. Yeah.
Chris Motley
How much of the hair loss stuff is genetic, you think?
Dr. Motley
I think it. I think a lot of it is genetic. I do believe that. I think that you can have a propensity to have hair loss if you're, you know, like they say, your mother's side had hair loss and if your dad had hair loss. Yes, because you're going to mimic their biochemistry.
Chris Motley
So just the energetic field will pick up on it.
Dr. Motley
Yes. Like, even, like your. The strands of your DNA that has the exact. The exact patterns that tell his. Your parents, like your dad's body to keep hair, that little segment can be passed to you. And if you get triggered emotionally with that small segment of DNA, you'll start experiencing the hair loss that he may have had. So you got the makeup for it. Right. And so energetically, you. Not only. You don't. You not only have the makeup material in the body, but you basically have the energetic makeup as well. Coming through. Yeah. So it's got to. There's an energetic pattern, though, that we're seeing. I call them energetic blueprints. And for instance, have you ever been around somebody enough that you feel like you've taken on their personality?
Chris Motley
Definitely. The more I hang out with someone, the more I feel like I'll pick
Dr. Motley
up on their stuff, even the negative parts, Right?
Chris Motley
Yeah.
Dr. Motley
And what they're showing is like energetic blueprints that come down from people like your parents. It means that their body and their cells that they pass to you basically has a hologram or an energetic biofield around those cells and those cell patterns and those DNA patterns and anything that can actually disrupt or charge that pat those biofields will actually happen to you. So you'll naturally attract the same things your parents attracted.
Chris Motley
Whoa.
Dr. Motley
So you watch their patterns, Right. You'll say, oh, my parents had this, this and this, and they had hair loss. And you find out what kind of friends they have, and you go, oh, man, I've attracted the same things in my life.
Chris Motley
Holy crap.
Dr. Motley
So they call them energetic blueprints. So I'm not saying, go play your parents. I would say that you have to be very cautious because in biofields, the same patterns or the same frequencies they're outputting now is outputting from you. It may not be like, as intense as the parent, but it could be that you got a heterozygous gene, maybe you got 50% of their particular type of gene, and you're putting out 50% of the frequency.
Chris Motley
Yeah.
Dr. Motley
But you'll attract the same people.
Chris Motley
Interesting. So your biofield can be infected in a way.
Dr. Motley
Definitely. That's why tuning forks work so well. People think they're weird. Like, not at all. I mean, if you have. Your body is emitting light all day and sound. So you are emitting light, and the only reason I see your shirt is because it's reflecting white. But you're. You are basically emitting tons of wavelengths I can't see. So those wavelengths can contain frequencies of infections. So some people. I don't know if they nearly have the infection in them or do they just have the wavelength or the frequency of the infection within them?
Chris Motley
Fascinating.
Dr. Motley
Yeah.
Chris Motley
Because if someone's sick, you get sick. But is that from the energy field or is that from, like, exactly. Transferring it?
Dr. Motley
Exactly. If they had a strep really heavily and that frequency was being output from their body so heavily, or the wavelength that you can't see.
Chris Motley
Right.
Dr. Motley
Could it change your biofield to make your body have the same symptoms as they have?
Chris Motley
Wow.
Dr. Motley
And it's like. That's why people say, like, tuning forks. They'll take a tuning fork and they'll put it over a certain part of your biofield and it changes sound. Why? Because it's attenuating. It's basically changing your frequencies. Wow. Isn't that crazy, Man?
Chris Motley
That is crazy. They need to look into that. But I've definitely gotten sick. Not even touching certain people that were sick, but just being in the same room. Yeah.
Dr. Motley
And you go around certain person and you think, man, I felt like my throat felt weird or like my head felt odd. I would venture to say that that person that you're around probably had chronic infections of their throat or chronic viral infection of their head.
Chris Motley
That's crazy.
Dr. Motley
And I would. I'm not gonna shy away from. I promise you. You could go check that person, and they will be like, oh, I. I was hanging out with my buddy, and he had strep throat. Happens all the time. And they're like. And then I started. Why? Because the weakness of that tissue in their throat is resonating with your throat. It. And if you have a small. Just a little bit of that same type of infection in you, it'll expand the frequency of it. It'll amplify. And so you start getting the actual basic big symptoms from what they had.
Chris Motley
Crazy.
Dr. Motley
I get adamant about it. So I'm getting too excited. But.
Chris Motley
No. That's interesting. So that's how powerful the biofield is, man.
Dr. Motley
It's the. It's the future.
Chris Motley
Yeah. We need to study that more. Do you know how far it Extends or is it kind of different with each person?
Dr. Motley
I'm not going to act like some of the experts out there, but there are people who practice what they call Radionics, which is like, Like, I think I saw a guy who did Radionics on your show, and it's amazing. It's like a while back and. But basically it can spread or expand three to four feet. They say. Okay, yeah, I don't know.
Chris Motley
Carson talked about this actually.
Dr. Motley
Yeah, yeah, I think it can go three to four feet. Some individuals say that the, that they have an astral field that can go up to meters. And some people say, like, even as big as football fields, depending on how energetic or how strong the person's internal, like Dante, and their chi internally is. I'm not sure, man. I, I say only in frequency medicine, whenever I'm doing any type of, like, scanning, I usually would only, you know, work with somebody in their two to three foot realm, such like that. That's all I can pick up on. I mean, so there are some qigong masters and some individuals that can just expand their field really far, but I'm not that guy.
Chris Motley
You're not him.
Dr. Motley
I'm a simple guy. I just, like, I just, you know, do my thing. Yeah.
Chris Motley
Would you say you're pretty sensitive? You could feel people's energies pretty easily?
Dr. Motley
I think I do now. And I think. I don't want anybody to think that if I do, like, frequency medicine and things of that sort that I'm extra sensitive, like, knowing more. I think doing it for this long, man. I think that my biofield and my, like, the electrical signals in my skin are very sensitive. So what happens is your sensors in your skin get very sensitive to, like, pressure or change or heat, right? Yeah, I think I've done it for so long and I've had so many people's frequencies transfer to my skin that I've gotten highly sensitive to, like, the changes in them. So if I looked at you, I automatically know where your body probably hurts.
Chris Motley
Wow. Just from looking?
Dr. Motley
Just from looking. Not trying. Because I think the sensors in my skin have picked up on it. That's why when you look at somebody in a room or, you know, you guys look at somebody and you go, oh, I know that guy. Feel it. Why? Because you've attenuated your sensors, you know, like, and people say it's your instinct, you know, And I'm like, yeah, I mean, your gut. Right, Your gut instinct. And so people. I know that's highly sensitive receptors in your body. So if you like, you've talked about, like, you're sensitive to people in their pain. That means that the pain receptors in your body have been highly activated over the years. So you've learned how to control your receptors. Like, you know, how to listen, like, no, I don't have to feel that pain. I don't have to worry about it. But you're communicating with it. And as weird as it may sound, if you ever have somebody that initiates your pain receptors in your body, you'll know. You'll know their pain. And so you'll go, they're trying to hurt me because they hurt.
Chris Motley
Right.
Dr. Motley
So I think people need to pay attention to that gut instinct and find out, you know, what receptors are being triggered, though.
Chris Motley
Absolutely.
Dr. Motley
Yeah.
Chris Motley
Chris, it's been fun again. Where can people potentially get a session with you?
Dr. Motley
Well, just call me up right now. You can look me up@drmontley.com on the Internet and then at Facebook, Instagram, Tick tock. It's at Dr. Motley. M O, T L, E Y. All spelled out perfect.
Chris Motley
And we'll link it below.
Dr. Motley
Man, thank you so much.
Chris Motley
Thanks for what you do, man.
Dr. Motley
Super appreciate it, bro. Thank you, man.
Chris Motley
Thanks for watching, guys. See you next time. Thanks for watching to the end, guys. Please comment below your thoughts on the episode if you agree. If you disagree, I'd love to hear. I read every single comment. Means a lot to me. Thank you so much.
Guest: Dr. Chris Motley
Host: Sean Kelly (Chris Motley guest-hosting this episode)
Episode #: DSH #2000
Date: June 5, 2026
In this rich and compelling episode of Digital Social Hour, Dr. Chris Motley returns for his third appearance to discuss the often-overlooked role of the spleen in overall health, the importance of addressing hidden infections (especially parasites), and how emotional patterns can impact physical health. The conversation dives deep into unconventional therapies, the rise of technology in diagnosis and monitoring, and the unseen energetic dimensions of wellness. With a blend of Eastern and Western perspectives, Dr. Motley highlights the connections between modern ailments and systemic imbalances, sharing clinical stories and actionable advice for listeners.
Cold Laser Therapy & Frequency Devices
Technology’s Role in Health Tracking
Acne, Eczema, and Parasitic Link
Back Acne and Joint Rashes as Infection Markers
Spleen as the “Sponge” of the Body
Chronic Illness, Emotional Health, and Spleen Function
Parasites and Food Contamination
Industrial Farming Critique
Early Puberty, Increased Obesity, and Processed Foods
Genetics, Biofields, and “Energetic Blueprints”
Empathy and Sensitivity in Healing Professions
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | 00:00 | Dr. Motley | "You can use red cold laser and violet laser to actually detach infections from your tissue." | | 05:23 | Dr. Motley | "If I put it 100, I would say 95. ...95 has parasites involved, but there's a lot of times that it's strep too." | | 08:43 | Dr. Motley | "The spleen is a sponge... it is a sponge that soaks up your blood and filters your blood." | | 11:41 | Dr. Motley | "If you did a 70% cleanup to everybody's spleen, you would see a huge, dramatic change in everybody's health in this country." | | 15:07 | Dr. Motley | "Hey, I just let out an 18 inch worm. Holy crap. Not even joke." | | 24:46 | Chris Motley | "Well all the local farms are going out of business and it goes to mass produced farms and then the conditions are just neglected." | | 27:27 | Dr. Motley | "Going through puberty. Puberty. I've seen some as young as 8 or not. I'm not kidding. That's unheard of." | | 36:02 | Dr. Motley | "That's why tuning forks work so well. People think they're weird. Like, not at all... your body is emitting light all day and sound." |
Dr. Motley’s take-home message is that true health requires thinking beyond symptoms—addressing hidden infections, nurturing the body's energetic balance, and healing emotional patterns. He urges listeners to pay attention to seemingly unrelated health signs (like skin rashes or sleep disturbances) and highlights the intertwined roles of lifestyle, environment, emotions, and technology in shaping well-being.
Contact:
Find Dr. Motley at drmotley.com and on social media: @drmotley
This episode offers a novel, integrative perspective on health, challenging mainstream thinking and inviting listeners to explore both the physiological and energetic roots of illness and healing.