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Ryan Seacrest
Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. It's stock up savings time now through March 31st. Spring in for storewide deals and earn four times the points. Look for in store tags to earn on eligible items from Hunts, Nerds, Pillsbury, Lowry's, Breyers, Quaker and Culture Pop. Then clip the offer in the app for automatic event long savings. Stack up those rewards to save even more. Enjoy savings on top of savings when you shop in store or online for easy drive up and go pick up or delivery restrictions apply. See website for full terms and conditions.
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Public Investing Representative
Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On Public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index with AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you backtested against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosures available at public.com Disclosures this
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week on a special episode of WebMD's Health Discovered podcast, we're taking a closer look at a common form of lung cancer that accounts for 85% of all cases. When I first heard the words you
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Jake Brennan
have lung cancer, I was in shock.
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Jake Brennan
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Jake Brennan
Idol. This week's full episode subject of Disgraceland was, as you've by now learned if you listened, a true rock and roll animal. As we like to say, few musicians lived as dangerously and as wild as Billy Idol did, and fewer still live to tell about it. Billy is on the short list of rock and Roll animalism, that shortlist with like Keith Moon, Keith Richards, small handful of others. Billy Idol is also on another list. He's on the list of musicians nominated this year to the Rock and Roll hall of Fame along with Billy Idol, Oasis, Bad Company, Black Crows, Outkast, White Stripes, Joe Cocker, Joy Division and New Order as one band. How does that make sense? I'm not sure. Chubby Checker, Cyndi Lauper, Mana Fish, Soundgarden and Mariah Carey are All nominated. That's with Billy Idol. 14 nominees. Now only seven are going to get in. Only seven are going to get into the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. Does Billy Idol deserve to be one of these seven? That's what I want to figure out. Again, here's the list. Oasis, Bad Company, Black Crows, Outkast, White Stripes, Joe Cocker, Joy Division, and New Order, Chubby Checker, Cyndi Lauper, Monafish, Soundgarden, and Mariah Carey. So which seven are you choosing from that list? If it's me, I'd nominate Bad Brains, Graham Parsons, New York Dolls, Motorhead and the Smiths before I nominate most of this list. But that is another story. Let's stick to the cards we've been dealt here in 2025. You have seven artists you can choose from this list of 14 artists. Oasis, Bad Company, Black Rose, Outkast, White Star, Steel Cocker, Joy Division. In New Order, Chubby Checker, Cyndi Lauper, Mono Fish, Soundgarden, and Mariah Carey. Who are you choosing for your seven now? Rock and Roll hall of Fame inductees are chosen by a mix of industry insiders and a fan vote. Right now, the fan vote has the following seven artists in the lead with what I would assume is the best chance of getting in when the Polls close on April 21st. They are in reverse order. Number seven with the most votes. Number seven, Chubby Checker. Number six, Joe Cocker. Number five. Our friends who we've been talking a lot about here in Disgraceland lately. Soundgarden. Number four. Cyndi Lauper. Number three. Our guy, Billy Idol. Number two, Bad Company. And number one, Fish. Fish. Fish. Number one in the voting by a wide margin as well. Now, I don't know about you guys, but Fish would be way down on my list. But I'm guessing their top ranking here in votes has more to do with Fish's fan base being super active online. I think that's what's going on. I don't think people by and large think that Fish is more deserving. The most deserving of all 14 of these nominees to be in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame now. Notably, Black Crows, Mariah Carey, Joy Division, Slash, New Order, White Stripes, Outkast, Oasis in Mana. I don't know who Mana is, but anyways, Mana are currently not receiving enough votes to qualify. How is it that there's an artist on the Rock and Roll hall of Fame inductee list that I've never heard of? Okay, that makes no sense. And I know you're gonna say they're from South America or Mexico or Spain or some other country that I'm not paying attention to. You're right. I'm not paying attention to them. But that's not my problem. That's their problem. They're supposed to be so undeniably great and hall of Fame worthy that they are pulling my attention toward them. That's another story. I don't want to get into that. Just know that Mana, along with Oasis, Outcast, White Stripes, Joy Division, Slash, New Order, Mariah Carey, Black Crows, right now, as of the voting, are not getting into the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. And that a list topped by Fish. Well, you know. Okay, so this list doesn't upset me as much as the grunge list from a couple weeks ago that we were talking about. But it's, you know, I mean, guys, again, the seven in the lead, Fish, Bad Company, Our Guy, Billy Idol, Cyndi Lauper, Soundgarden, Joe Cocker. And I get. I got a problem with Oasis and Black Crows being below Chubby Checker, Joe Cocker, Bad Company, Cyndi Lauper, and Fish, Even Soundgarden. I think I'd put Oasis and Black Crows above Soundgarden. I would. I think so, yeah. I'm not sure what the criteria is here, but rock and roll animalism, it should be an input. It should be a thought, at least. It should be a trait. No matter how heavy or how lightly we weight, should be a trait that we consider when we consider the worthiness of an artist for the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. I know, I know. It's. You know, this is our purview, our side of the street. Our point of view is rock and roll animalism. I get that. I get that most people aren't thinking about that, but still, how do you just ignore it? You know? How do you ignore it? Fish. Again, Fish. So I want to know from you guys who should be inducted into the Rock and Roll hall of Fame this year? We can only choose seven artists. Okay. I already listed five that I think have been historically snubbed. Bad Brains, Motorhead, Graham Parsons, New York Dolls, and the Smiths. That leaves only two remaining slots from our current list of 14 nominees. Again, Oasis, Bag Company, Black Crows, Outkast, White Stripes, Joe Cocker, Joy Division, New Order, Chubby Checker, Cyndi Lauper, Mana, Fish, Soundgarden, and Mariah Carey. From that list, if I can only choose two to go along with my list of five snubs, if I can only choose two from that list of 14, who am I choosing? Well, Definitely. Oasis. Definitely. And I guess I'm bringing it all back to Bangkok. Holler holler. City of squalor. I gotta go with Billy Idol. I do. Oasis and Billy Idol, along with Bad Brains, Motorhead, Graham Parsons, New York Dolls and the Smiths, would be my list of seven Rock and Roll hall of Fame inductees for the class of 2025. If your guy right here, me, yours truly was responsible for the haul. But I'm not. Maybe some of you are. I don't know. I think that's a great fucking list. Bad Brains, Motorhead, Grant Parsons, New York Dolls, Smiths, Oasis, and Billy Idol. But I want to know who are you inducting into the hall of Fame? Okay, you can only choose seven. All right, seven. And I think some of the list of the current 14 nominees are worthy. I think Billy Idol is worthy. This week's subject. I really do. I truly do. And not just for his rock and roll animalism. Dude wrote stone cold hits, okay? Huge, massive, culture defining, genre defining, era defining hits. He was such the avatar for punk rock that he made it something else where he tricked our brains into ignoring the fact that he was punk rock, if that makes sense. He was that big, his songs were that impactful. And I know he's Billy Idol, and for those of us who were watching MTV at the time, He's a top 40 artist and he was kind of a cheeseball. And I get all that. And I've never really bought a Billy Idol record in my life, but he just defined that generation and Generation X, the band he was in before that was just, I mean, come on, Ready, steady, go. Just, just great, great, great punk band. And I, I truly believe that if he weren't, if he didn't end up being as big as he was, the Generation X would have been looked upon more fondly. And as an equal of the Clash, as an equal of any of those great UK bands from that generation of mid to late 70s punk rock. Anyhow, I want your list of seven nominees for the Rock and Roll hall of Fame, 617906, 6638. You can call me, leave me a voicemail, you can send me a text and perhaps we can talk about it next week. Okay? Coming up next in your feed is our episode on Charles Manson, the musician. This is our rewind episode, our archive episode. Charles Manson, the musician. Yes, he's the same dude as the cult leader Charles Manson. A lot of people don't know this, but Charlie was a real, sort of real, I guess, musician before he orchestrated the murders at Cielo drive in the LaBianco residence. Charlie's Music was in part what contributed to his murderous rage, or at least that's what we're told to believe in. Helter Skelter. And Charlie's music lived on long after he was sent to prison, and it inspired a whole group of punk rock and hardcore kids and alternative musicians who came up in the 80s and in the 90s. Trent Reznor, Henry Rollins, and a bunch of others. We get into all this and the Archive episode on Charles Manson coming Friday, but the main thing we do in this episode is we set the stage to totally disrupt the Helter Skelter theory that we've all been led to believe over the last 50 years or so. Okay, if you watched the recent Chaos documentary on Netflix or you read the Chaos book by Tom o' Neill about the Manson murders, you'll know what I'm talking about. So our Manson episode this Friday is going to feed directly into our Mama Cass Elliot episodes, Parts 1 and 2, coming up on Monday and Tuesday. And not only do these Mama Cass Elliott episodes coming next week challenge and disrupt the accepted narrative on Helter Skelter, they lay out what I think really happened. And the truth is way stranger and much more violent than the story about Charles Manson that we've all accepted. The truth involves international drug trafficking, gang rape, like the worst possible thing that could happen to a dude short of watching his child die, and a plot so thick you're going to need a shovel to dig yourself out of afterward. Okay, which brings us to next week's Question of the Week. When you're listening to the two part Mama Cass episodes, it's a simple question. Do you believe that the accepted narrative on Helter Skelter is real? And again, you know, I'll point out that I rep this narrative that I no longer believe in in my Beach Boys episodes because I had not yet read Chaos when I made the Beach Boys episodes. This is sort of my me riding the ship attempt with the Mama Cass episodes. When you're listening to them, my question is, did Manson kill for the reasons that they said he did? Or was there another reason? As I lay out, that's going to be next week's Question of the Week. Do you believe the Helter Skelter narrative to further stoke your Helter Skelter flame? Our Hollywoodland episodes next week on Monday, tied directly with our Disgraceland episodes. Like I said at the beginning of next week in the Disgraceland feed, you're getting our Mama Cass Elliot episodes about the Manson murders. But did you know that Mama Cass Elliott was best friends with Sharon Tate? Sharon Tate who was murdered by the Manson family. Did you know that her best friend was Mama Cass Elliott from the Mamas and the Papasan? And that there is evidence that Charles Manson, through Mama Cass, actually met Sharon Tate before killing her? It's super creepy. Not only do we get into that in the Cass episodes, but we also get into it in the Sharon Tate episodes that we are releasing next week in Hollywoodland. Okay, the Tate Hollywoodland episodes speak directly to the Cass Disgraceland episodes. We wrote them in a Rashomon way. Each story is set in the same place but told from different points of view. The Disgraceland episodes are set in Helter Skelter and told from the point of view of Mama Cass. And the Hollywoodland episodes are set in the same exact place but told from the point of view of her friend Sharon tate. Okay, so holy 1969 Batman. Here is the upcoming schedule. Tomorrow in your Disgraceland feed a rewind episode on Charles Manson the Music Man. Monday and Tuesday the story continues in Disgraceland with parts of one and two of the Mama Cass Elliott story and her relationship to the Manson murders. And also on Monday, over in the Hollywoodland feed, our two part story on Sharon Tate. I'd listen to Manson Cass one, Cast two, Sharon Tate one and Sharon Tate two in that order and then call me and let me know if you still believe the Helter Skelter narrative as told by Vincent Bugliosi in the biggest selling true crime book of all time, Helter Skelter. All right, I'm going to take a break. I'll be hanging on the telephone on the other side with your voicemails, texts and dms.
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Ryan Seacrest
Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. It's stock up Savings time now through March 31st. Spring in for storewide deals and earn four times the points. Look for in store tags to earn on eligible items from Hunts, Nerds, Pillsbury, Lowry's, Breyers, Quaker and Culture Pop. Then clip the offer in the app for automatic event long savings. Stack up those rewards to save even more. Enjoy savings on top of savings when you shop in store or online for easy drive up and go pick up or delivery restrictions apply. See website for full terms and conditions.
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Public Investing Representative
Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an Investable Index with AI it all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year, you can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1% bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete Disclosures available at public.comdisclosures
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Jake Brennan
All right, guys, I'm back. Apple podcast listeners, real quick. If you're listening on Apple Podcasts, make sure you have auto downloads turned on for Disgraceland and Hollywoodland. That way you do not miss any episodes. 617-906-6638. You know where I'm at? I'm in the phone booth. It's the one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone. You want to send me a voicemail or a text? 617-906-6638 to hang on the telephone with yours truly. Let's check out this voicemail from. Hey, this is ben from the 803. Jake, Jake, Jake. God damn it, you got me again. Much like I did listen to John Denver. I sat there slack jawed thinking, my God, all my crazy conspiracy theories on jfk. We're totally off base because I never heard Dylan involved in any of this stuff. And what can I say other than you got me again, great episode. Thanks. Keep up the good work as always, Rocka Rolla. Ben. All right man, I'm happy you got into that episode. I'm happy you get a sense of humor about the whole thing. Appreciate you especially. Happy to know that you fell for John Denver and then you fell for Bob Dylan as well. All right, let's check out the 412 Jake. It's the big gaber from the 412 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I just want to tell you, you fucking got me man. So good. With this Dylan episode. My mind was freaking blown and I thought I was going to pass out with rage or whatever when you revealed that it was an april fool's joke. 412 out in Pittsburgh rage, man. I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to drive anyone to rage. Just trying to entertain some folks. Sounds like you took it well. I appreciate that. Thanks for reaching, reaching out. Are you a Pirates fan? Let me know. I've got a late breaking opinion about the Pirates. I think the Pittsburgh Pirates might have the best uniform in baseball. I think they have the best hat, the one with the piping, you know, circular goes around the whole thing. What do they call that. What's that hat called? Hit me back. 4, 1, 2. All right, this one comes from the 41 5. 415 writes in. Hey, totally got me. Bob was very influential in my life. He's talking about Bob Dylan. Saw him in 1965 at a Berkeley community center. Wow. Goes on to say, I love that you actually worked with Carl. He's talking about Carl Bernstein. You got me with the John Denver one too. But that did seem way out of line. This was more feasible. Curious about Tom Payne Award.
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And.
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Jake Brennan
And if Dylan really was so flippant about the war, he certainly was affected by his death. By the murder most foul song recently. Well, yes. The Tom Paine depiction in the episode. The Tom Paine Awards depiction. That is all. Everything I put in Dylan's mouth in that episode is verbatim. I quoted him directly and all true. And it was a big, big, big controversy at the time. No one really talks about it anymore. It's not part of his myth. It's not part of his lore. And that goes to show just how history records some things and how history does not. The bit about him being flippant about the war, also completely true. That's from Sing out magazine. That quote is a direct quote from Dylan. I don't believe Dylan was for the war. However, I think he was fucking with that journalist. I think what Dylan was for was not being pigeonholed into any sort of image of the 60s generation of the anti war movement, anything like that. So 41 5. Appreciate you. Thanks for the text. 907 writes in. Jake, I must tip my hat to you, the maestro of the April Fool's gag. No later than five hours after I had bragged to my students I'm a high school chemistry teacher, that no one had fooled me on April 1st, I then finished listening to Bob Dylan, Part 2. I bought every bit of your episode right up until you spelled it out. Well played, sir. Well played. Keep on doing what you do. Lisa from the 907. Lisa, thank you so much. Do a couple more here. 201 rights. And hey, seriously addicted. Just pissed that I'll be caught up in the better part of a year of commuting. Thank you. You got it. 201-617-906-6638. You guys want to send me a voicemail? Send me a text. I was talking about the Pittsburgh Pirates earlier. Baseball is on my mind. All right? I've been watching a ton of baseball and I got no one to really talk about it with. I talked to my stepdad about it. Talk to my kids about it because they're fucking obsessed, which is great. And I've got the MLB app on the screens here most 247 most days, basically because of them. They have it on actually. But there's this new if you guys, you know, I know there's a lot of Red Sox fans who listen to me and for Yankees fans out there, just bear with me for about 10 seconds here. There's a new Netflix series called the Clubhouse, a year with the Red Sox and I gotta say, I am loving it. I'm learning a ton about this new generation of Red Sox players and I'm even learning. I'm even liking Tristan Cassis a lot more than I thought I liked him. Just fantastic. All right, check it out, Red Sox fans. You'll dig it. That's my 32nd ish sports bit. I can't help it. I talk music and movies all week with you guys, but I consume a ton of sports and it's hard not to talk about them, especially when it's something like this that's got its hooks in me and I'm thinking about it all day long. Anyways, I'm thinking about thinking about movies too, and I'll be back in a flash with your emails, reviews and the Hollywoodland Minute.
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Ryan Seacrest
Hey, it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. It's stock up savings time now through March 31st. Spring in for store wide deals and earn four times the points. Look for in store tags to earn on eligible items from Hunts, Nerds, Pillsbury, Lowry's, Breyers, Quaker and Culture Pop. Then clip the offer in the app for automatic event long savings. Stack up those rewards to save even more. Enjoy savings on top of savings when you shop in store or online for easy drive up and go pickup or delivery restrictions apply. See website for full terms and conditions.
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Public Investing Representative
Support for the show comes from Public, the investing platform for those who take it seriously. On public you can build a multi asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto and now generated assets which allow you to turn any idea into an investable index. With AI. It all starts with your prompt. From renewable energy companies with high free cash flow to semiconductor suppliers growing revenue over 20% year over year. You can literally type any prompt and put the AI to work. It screens thousands of stocks, builds a one of a kind index and lets you back test it against the S&P 500. Then you can invest in a few clicks. Generated assets are like ETFs with infinite possibilities, completely customizable and based on your thesis, not someone else's. Go to public.com podcast and earn an uncapped 1 bonus when you transfer your portfolio. That's public.com podcast paid for by Public Investing Brokerage Services by Open to the Public Investing Inc. Member FINRA and SIPC Advisory Services by Public Advisors, llc. SEC Registered Advisor Generated Assets is an interactive analysis tool. Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice. Complete disclosures available at public.com disclosures let's talk personal Style.
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Jake Brennan
All right, we are back and you know what time it is. It's time for the Hollywoodland Minute, brought to you by the Hollywoodland Podcast. Don't know what the Hollywoodland Podcast is? Well, the Hollywoodland Podcast is hosted by yours truly, where everybody every week I tell you a story from the Annex of Hollywood and true Crime. And right now there are over 40 episodes waiting for you to binge episodes on James Dean, Charlie Sheen, Danny Trejo, Marilyn Monroe, Sean Pence, Steve McQueen, Drew Barrymore, Jane Fonda, and most recently, master filmmaker David Lynch. Let's check out this clip. Angelo Badalamenti sat at an old Fender Rhodes piano. David lynch sat next to him. A cassette recorder sat quietly on top of the keyboard. It was 1988 and lynch was assembling the project that would become television's Twin Peaks. It was a huge risk for the director, the art house auteur behind such underground classics as Blue Velvet and Eraserhead. This was long before the Sopranos and long before what's called prestige television. Back then, talent like David lynch did not work in television. Television was considered by some to be trash. But David lynch was a visionary and he was currently trying to envision television as art. His starting point was a story his co creator Mark Frost had told him about local history from the town in upstate New York where Frost grew up. It happened 80 years earlier. A beautiful blonde girl was found murdered floating in a pond in the woods. Lynch was using that story as inspiration as Angelo Badalamenti worked on an evocative composition by his side. Okay, David, Angelo said. What do you see now? David lynch closed his eyes. He was there in the woods in the dark. A soft wind blew through the pines. On the keyboard, Angelo slowly alternated between an AB and C minor. The bass was slow like the lapping of the pond water against the shore, the breath like movement of a body floating on the surface. That's good, David lynch said. Now from behind a tree is a very lonely girl and the music rose. It came out of the dark and drifted to the shore. Then it built to something bright but sad. A ghost glowing in the dark woods. It was so beautiful, the vision, the music, that it broke David Lynch's heart. David lynch jumped up and hugged his composer. That's it, he said. That's Twin Peaks. All right, guys, make sure you are subscribed to the Hollywoodland podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Castbox, I Heart Odyssey, Wherever you get your podcasts, get into that Hollywood Land feed and hit follow, hit subscribe. Whatever they term it as, make sure you're getting every episode as we release them every single Monday next week. As I said earlier, we have a two part episode coming your way on Sharon Tate. And again, you're not going to want to miss these episodes because they speak directly to the Mama cast episodes that are being released in the Disgraceland feed. And I don't mean like we're just talking about the same thing. I mean we produced these in tandem. They're like a puzzle piece that when you put them together, all the pieces fit. Okay, you familiar with the Rashomon Effect? The Rashomon effect describes how parties describe an event in a different and contradictory manner, which reflects their subjective interpretation and self interested advocacy rather than an objective truth. That's not how I remember it. That's what happens in these episodes, except without that fancy AI definition that I just read you. Okay, but basically the Rashomon effect in the Sharon Tate episodes coming on Monday in Hollywoodland. Make sure you're subscribed to Hollywoodland and then call me 617-906-6638 and let me know what you thought of Hollywoodland. Or you can send me an email and let me know what you think. Disgracelandpod gmail.com Susan Prana Tonito. Is that how you say it? I think so. Pranato. Pranito. That's probably it, right? Saying, hey, our generation. Who spoke for our generation? This, of course, is in response to last week's question of the week. We're talking about Dylan. We're talking about the voice of the generation. Susan here thinks that in the 1980s it was John Cougar Mellencamp. I know she says it was oversaturated, but this was the voice of folks in a small town in the late 1980s. And I can't argue with you, Susan. I'm from a small town, but not from one in the Midwest and on the East Coast. And the Coug was ubiquitous. For me personally, I would not call John Cougar Mellencamp, the voice of my generation. But I like to represent as much of this great country as I can in these responses. And I appreciate Susan's point of view here, the Midwest point of view. Thank you, Susan. 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Ocean1185 writes in I spent an entire summer about 15 years ago reading memoirs and biographies about dead rock stars, even ones whose music I didn't even listen to. I just like hearing stories about creatives and the good, the bad, and the ugly aspects of their lives. And this show captures my interest with some great storytelling about all the creators of our generation and the generations before us. Also, I also love the way Jake says Mellotron. You got it. Ocean1185, thanks for leaving a review over on Apple Podcasts. Get in touch. We'll get you some merch. Rob over on Spotify. Rob, Rob, I love you, Rob. I love you for this one, man. Rob says, nice one. This is in response to the Bob Dylan Part 2 episode. Nice one. James Ellroy would be proud of. Well, Rob, you just made my day. Thank you very much. Rob, get in touch. We'll get you some merch as well. Guys, leave a review. Spotify, Apple Podcasts, we appreciate it. This episode, it's come to an end. And as you know, the afterparty continues for our All Access members. And All Access is going to get you an extended portion of this Here after party. It's going to get you ad free listening of all of our episodes and it's going to get you one extra full episode per month. Okay, this one is very true. Crimey. The one coming this month, it's on the Allman Brothers. I learned so much with this episode and I think you will too. I hope you sign up. Go to disgraceandpod.com membership. Five bucks a month. That's it. Five dollars a month. And we're giving you a lot of bang for the buck, I like to think. Anyways. All right, appreciate you guys. Disgraceandpod.com membership to become an all Access member. All right, we are back. Thanks for hanging out with us in the after party. Appreciate you guys. Let's recap, shall we? We get this massive archive. Got a vault of episodes. You guys know this. And each week I highlight a couple that we mention. Usually typically in just, you know, talking here in the afterparty, I highlight them here. Matt grabs the show info and links and he throws those in the show notes so you guys can find these archive episodes very easily. If you are interested, we talked today. We mentioned Oasis. We have a two parter on Oasis that I just love. I love that band so much. And if you love them, or even if you don't, if you're, if you're sort of Oasis curious, check out these episodes that we did a couple years back. I mentioned Joy Division in New Order. We have an episode on New Order. You check that out. All right. Cyndi Lauper don't have an episode on Cyndi Lauper, but she comes up heavily in the Cramps episode, Keith Moon and Keith Richards. There are of course multiple Rolling Stones episodes. There's a who episode and what else? Oh, Mariah Carey mentioned her. Got a Mariah Carey episode. Soundgarden got a Chris Cornell episode coming up. Coming up. Anyways, Matt will have those links for you that show info in the show notes if you want to dive into our archive. Okay, let's recap, shall we? Number one, my other podcast, Hollywoodland is alive and kicking over in the Hollywoodland feed. So make sure you're subscribed and following Hollywoodland on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcast. And get ready for our Hollywoodland Sharon Tate episodes coming, coming your way on Monday. Right now in your Disgraceland feed. Our episode on Billy Idol coming tomorrow. Number three, coming tomorrow, our rewind episode on Charles Manson. Number four, merch winners get in touch. You know who you are. Number five, remember, no one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do, and, well, that's a disgrace. All right, in honor of this week's subject, Billy Idol, this is me reading you the Billboard charts from the day Billy Idol bailed on his motorcycle and barely escaped death. February 6, 1991 how am I supposed to live without you? Michael Bolton Last week 1 Weeks on chart 15 Number 2 Opposites attract Paula Abdul duet with the Wild Pair Last Week 8 Peak Position 2 Weeks on Chart 8 Number 3 Downtown Train Rod Stewart Last Week 3 Peak Position 3 Weeks on Chart 11 Number 4 Two to Make It Right Seduction Last Week 5 Peak Position 4 Weeks on Chart 13 Number 5 Janie's Got a Gun Aerosmith Last Week 11 Peak Position 5 Weeks on Chart 11 Number 16 Six
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