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Bonus Episode: A Disgraceful Christmas List – Rockstars Set Up, Busted, and Sentenced During the Holidays
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Charlie
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Matt
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I know they're going to taste great, super convenient. And for me, I swear I look better when I'm taking my Groons. I feel vital. My gut health is in shape. I've got energy. It's helping me with immunity recovery. Groons ingredients are backed by over 35,000 research publications, so you don't have to take just my word for it. Get up to 52% off with code DISGRACELAND at GROONS. CO for that's code Disgraceland at G R U N S co. Hey, discos, need a little more Disgrace Land in your life? Just a touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland. The afterparty. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show. The party. After the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission, to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we're discussing the wild arrest setups and true crimes that happened during holiday seasons past from music history. In the exclusive portion, we dive into the way in which Diddy allegedly avoided serving hard time for one of those holiday true crimes. We share with you something pretty awesome that happened to us here in Disgraceland this past week. And we get into your emails, comments, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is a history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told. The kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, discos, let's get into it. Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah. Hope everyone's having a great holiday season, however you celebrate. All right, listen, I'm late in putting my Christmas list together this year, but it's a different kind of list. It's not a list of what I want for Christmas. It's not a list of my favorite Christmas songs. It's not a list of my favorite unintentional Christmas songs, though more on that later. It's a list, a ranked list of true crimes from music history that happened during the holidays. Now, you'd be surprised how many of the stories that we cover here in Disgraceland have happened around the holiday season. It's way more than I thought. Pretty shocking actually. But I have a theory. You've heard the phrase the devil finds work for idle hands to do? Well, I prefer one that is slightly similar but means the same thing. Idle hands are the devil's workshop. One could also say that music history is the devil's workshop. And the workshop gets real busy around the holidays with all those rock stars sitting around at home without the structure of the road, bored to death by domesticity, just itching to get themselves into trouble. The holidays are the perfect time for rock star true crime, as the record shows. So here's a list, ranked of course, of some of the more outrageous crimes committed in music history. Not all outrageous, some just interesting right around the holiday season. Okay, so many, of course, have been covered, like I said in detail here in Disgraceland, but most without calling out the relative holiday spirit until now. Number 10 comes from an artist that we've yet to cover, but definitely will at some point. DMX. On December 15, 2002, during a run of his career where running into authorities for all kinds of stuff, everything from spanning weapons charges to animal cruelty, DMX was arrested couple weeks before Christmas for burying his 5411 size 7 in girls into the gas pedal and burning 104 miles an hour down the highway. I don't know that I've ever gone. I've never pushed it that fast. I push it pretty fast sometimes, but I don't think I've ever been just under 105. I hope not anyways. Anyhow, speeding was the least of DMX's problems that Christmas. He was also arrested for driving an unregistered vehicle without a license. On top of everything else DMX was up to, he was sentenced to 70 days in jail eventually for that incident. And there's a whole bunch of other stuff that DMX got in trouble for. The DMX story, to me, it's a very sad story, and I don't yet know how to tell it, but I know that we will at some point here in disgrace. And I gotta find a different way of telling it. Thank you. That doc that came out a couple years ago, that's what's been holding me up anyhow. Number nine, Joan Baez. You can't accuse Bob Dylan's girlfriend of being idol during the holidays back in 1967, because on December 19th. Joan Baez. I kid about the Bob Dylan girlfriend thing. I'm not a huge Joan. I don't like Joan Bias. There, I said it. But I don't. I don't mean to just, you know, discredit her as being Bob Dylan's girlfriend. I understand how important she is in music history. And I actually think that Joan Baez, for whatever reason, doesn't get enough. I don't want to say credit, I guess. Credit. I feel like we don't. We don't understand fully how big Joan Baez was because Bob Dylan is caught up in her story and she ends up in his shadow and he's massive. But she was an enormous star before Dylan came along and was after Dylan's split as well. But for whatever reason, you know, maybe it's like I said, the Dylan shadow thing, whatever the reason is, it's. We don't think of it that way anymore. I don't know why. We just kind of forget about it, you know, we just kind of let's. Joan Bias. Anyhow, Joan Baez, 1967, also Joan Baez. I say this absolutely stunning, beautiful. And even though I don't like Joan Baez's music, her voice, you can't argue with how I guess, compelling an artist she was. And she captivated not just the American public, but she captivated men like John Lennon, for example, Johnny Cash, all kinds of guys who were just blown away by Joan Baez. Anyhow, 1967, like I said, she was not resting during the holiday season. She was arrested for leading an anti war, anti Vietnam war sit in in Oakland, California, at an army induction center. Joan was putting in work during that holiday off time. Unlike number eight, Chuck Berry, who was fucking around in the worst possible way or one of the worst possible ways. A couple days before Christmas. In 1959, when Chuck was arrested in St. Louis, Missouri for transporting a 14 year old girl across state lines for immoral purposes, a crime known as the Man Act, Chuck Berry was sentenced to five years hard time in federal prison. Chuck appealed that sentence and Santa smiled upon the rock and roll pioneer and reduced his sentence to just three years. Chuck ended up serving just 20 months. You know, I've done a lot of. A lot of work on Chuck Berry. We did that Chuck Berry episode. But there's also an expanded version of that story in my book. And I don't think the Christmas of it all ever really came into the story. Apologies, if you can hear my. The faint, the faint yelp and shout of my kids. They're out in the front yard here playing baseball. And you know what? It's Christmas break. I can't. I can't. Can't squash their spirit. All right, moving on from Chuck berry at number eight, number seven. In early December 1973, as the who were wrapping up their tour in time to return home for the holidays, they celebrated the performance of a particularly explosive show in Montreal by destroying in epic fashion their suite at the Hotel Bonaventure. Now, before all was said and done, this is. Look, this has been documented elsewhere, but it's still shocking to me. And I didn't really get into it in the who episodes that we've produced because it's just such a part of rock and roll lore. But it. Let's do it before all was said and done, okay? After this after show party. This after party, after the who show in Montreal, they're back at the Hotel Ponaventure and they decide they're so excited, they're so pumped, they're so blitzed on whatever they're taking that they're going to destroy the hotel suite. Which, you know, back in 1973 wasn't as rote as it is now for rock stars, but anyhow. But after all was said and done, sofas had been rocketed out of the hotel suite's windows, A television set ended up in the pool. Pete Townsend's blood somehow was splattered across the art on the hotel suite's walls. And Pete, Keith Moon and John Entwistle were all hauled into jail by the local police and in the end let go and just ordered to pay damages. And with all that activity, the who still made it to their gig in Boston in time the next night before eventually breaking for the holidays. So a little bit of epic rock star debauchery there from the Holidays. I'd heard that story before. I did not know it took place during the holiday season. Number six, just after celebrating the New Year's holiday in 2008, Lil Wayne, Lil Wayne, you might remember back from season six, season seven of Disgraceland, was arrested in Arizona after his tour bus was raided. He was given probation for that charge, probation to be completed once his stay in prison was finished. I know it's all very confusing. You can hear about it all in our Little Wayne episode. Number five. We just talked about this one. Trey Anastasio of the Fish, as the kids call them, was arrested just before Christmas in 2006 while whipping down the road, blitzed on prescription meds and charged with heroin possession. An event that no doubt made for a tense Christmas around the Fish camp that year. Trey eventually pleaded guilty and avoided prison time and got clean and continues to perform warm with the Fish and without the heroin. So there you go, that's number five. Number four on New Year's Eve. This is my favorite one on because it's so up on New Year's Eve, 1948, Billie Holiday, who I love, okay, One of my favorite singers and, and just. I don't care. One of the greatest vocalists of all time, Billie Holiday was caught up in a. A club melee, a brawl, and charged with assault with a deadly weapon on three counts. This is on New Year's Eve, 1940. 48. Now, on the day of her hearing, she heads up to San Francisco to perform for a sold out crowd at a club which the name is escaping me while staying, however, in the San Francisco hotel Mark Twain, I can't forget that name. Billy was then. So this is New Year's Day. Billy was then the target of a just despicably shameful FBI raid and I believe set up by her manager, which is a whole other story. Billy was charged with opium possession and her career speeds to an end quickly after this. And her demise is just horrifically sad. But in a weird twist, that notorious publicity for the arrest and the brawl, it fueled ticket sales for the rest of her tour. So she got a little, you know, New Year's holiday bonus for Billie Holiday there, who no doubt likely needed it given all that was going on at the time in her life. Number three, in December 1999 at the Club KitKat in New York, you know this one, Beyonce's husband, Jay Z, back before he was Beyonce's husband, was busted for stabbing Lance on Rivera. Remarkably, somehow Jay Z only got probation for stabbing a dude. Santa doesn't fuck around with no dirt on Jay Z's shoulder is what I'm saying now. Number two, not to be outdone by his rival Jay Z, a couple weeks later, Sean Puff Daddy Combs was busted two days after Christmas following a shooting in a date different New York City club. Puffy, as he was known then, was charged with criminal possession of a weapon and stolen property, but eventually beat the charge. Now, lot of theories about how Sean Combs avoided a guilty charge here and he avoided going to prison. Lots of, lots of smoke out there. Some of it is more than smoke, I think. Anyways, we're going to get into these theories in the exclusive section of the afterparty for all Access members coming up in a bit. But first, number one on our list, number one, country singer Merle Haggard, whose voice rivals Billie Holiday's in my estimation. I actually think, and this is because I've been listening to a ton of Merle Haggard lately, I think Merle Haggard has surpassed George Jones in my, in my opinion as far as country singers go. Just, you know, subjectively my fave. I'm not saying that Merle Haggard is the greatest country singer, you know, whatever. You might have, you might think it's George, you might think it's Willie, Johnny, whoever. But for me, it was George Jones for most of my life. But there's just something about Merle that has. Has got me hooked lately. The richness, the depth of that voice. I envy it. I really, I really do. And I, I just can't get enough of it. Anyways, Merle was busted on Christmas Day for knocking over a restaurant the night before in an armed robbery. And this was an event that led Merle to do hard time at San Quentin and eventually to getting serious about his musical career after he saw Johnny Cash perform live at San Quentin. And ultimately, this all led to Merle Haggard writing one of the greatest Christmas songs of all time, if we make it through December, a song I'm proud to say that my 7 year old now loves. We've been listening to. It's actually, there's a Merle Christmas album. We've been listening to the whole album a lot lately. And that might have something to do with why Merle Haggard is number one on my list here. The numbering doesn't matter, the ranking doesn't matter. These are all fascinating stories that you can tell this Christmas while you're hanging out with your fam. You know, it gets to the later part of the day. Football's, you know, not as interesting as it was earlier. You know, you're all kind of you get to get a little turkey hangover, maybe you get a little, a little too much bourbon and you whatever it is. And you need something alive and up the party. You can go to any one of these stories and there will be relevance, of course, because of the holidays. And you know, you'll, you know, you might be a little entertaining yourself telling these stories of, you know, massively transgressive entertainers. This list could easily have been a top 20, maybe even a top 50. I don't know. I didn't mention holiday season arrests for a ton of Disgraceland artists. Jace Brown, Jim Morrison, Sam Cooke, Gigi Allen. I'm sure with more research into the Disgraceland archive, I could have pulled out a ton more. The Holidays in music history, the Devil's Workshop as demonstrated by Disgraceland. When we get back, I'm going to play you something that's sure to blow your mind. And then we're also going to get into your calls, voicemails and texts.
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Matt
All right, we are back. And before we get into your voice, those texts and more, I wanted to mention that one of my favorite Disgraceland stories is available for you guys right now in the feed. And that is the Christmas story on the death of one of Elvis Presley's favorite singers, Memphis's own Johnny Ace. And if you're looking for something to do, this is, you know, you can all get round the tree here on Christmas, fire up the old Disgraceland feed and get into the Christmas vibes. This is a dark but fascinating story and it's absolutely a holiday story. Johnny Ace and the myth of Johnny Ace and his death on Christmas day was most definitely an influence on an artist that I think most of us know and love, Lou Reed from the Velvet Underground. Now, Lou, just like those who spread the false myth of Johnny Ace's death after the Johnny Ace Christmas tragedy, Lou Reed himself was about as unreliable a narrator as is possible to find in rock and roll history. So because of that, we thought it was a good time of year to bring Lou back into the feed with our unreliable take on the Lou Reed origin story. These two Lou Reed episodes are, I'm just gonna say it, they're fucking weird, man. I was reading a bunch of Raymond Chandler books at the time because Lou Reed was heavily influenced by Raymond Chandler. And I had just had my head buried in that massive book of Lou Reed lyrics. And I was obviously reading and watching a ton of Lou Reed interviews where Lou is Basically just lying through all of them about himself. So what you hear in these two episodes is a result of me taking all of that in and kind of channeling Lou as an unreliable narrator into the storytelling. And, you know, it's weird, but it's fun and they're produced in an excellent way. I, if I, you know, just. I'm very proud of the job that the Double Elvis team did with these stories. So those, those are going to be available in the archive coming up right after. Right after this. Right? Yeah. Next week. We, of course, keep the holiday vibes alive with our episode on Derek and the Dominoes, those dominoes being Dwayne Allman and Eric Clapton and one Jim Gordon. And we tell this story of violent schizophrenia in conjunction with the story of the Lawson family murders, which happened on Christmas day back in 1929 and was immortalized in song in the great murder ballad the Lawson Family Murder by the Carolina Buddies and later popularized by Doc Watson. If you're from the American south, if you're a true crime fan, if you're from north or South Carolina, if you love Clapton the Almonds or are a drummer and want to hear about one of the greatest drummers of all time and his, his slip into madness, then you are going to want to listen to this episode if you are any of those things and even if you're not. All right, let's hear from you guys because, you know, it's been about a week and I, you know, we haven't checked in. Charlie checked in from the 912.
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Charlie
Yo, Jake, this is Charlie calling in from Georgia. Alright? So here's the thing. I think it goes without saying that you and your team and everyone that listens to the show knows what an awesome podcast that Disgrace Land is. But I wanted to take this opportunity to take two reasons why I specifically love the show personally, okay? Number one, it's not about race or politics or religion or all the other horse manure that we use to tear each other apart day after day. No, it's a show that has a great host, all right, that tells great stories about great artists that make the great music that we all know and love. And at the end of the day, that's what unifies us, okay? And number two is I know I'm not alone when I say this, but I think the best part about the show are the introductions, okay? And listening to you go, and why would I play you that specific slice of such and such cheese could I afford? It just cracks me up every single time, man. I Love it. I wish you guys the best, the luck, and all the success you could possibly handle. And again, thank you so much for a great show. All right, man.
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Matt
Peace, Charlie. I appreciate the message. Thank you, man. Thanks for spreading a little holiday, a little Christmas cheer. I hope you and your family are doing all right. Peace and love and much more cheese coming, my man. That's all I got to say. Specific slices of cheese. All right, Matt, let's go to the seven three, one.
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Listener Elizabeth
Hey, it's Elizabeth in the 731. Just following up on the video podcast of you and Zeb talking about the Christmas song, the band, the politically incorrect, disdain in your voice for Baby It's Cold Outside. But right after that, you kind of understood the whole Eartha Kitt sultry performance. The thing with Baby, It's Cold Outside was the same thing in the performances sometimes, like on television, different things. The man would block the door, kind of keep her from going out. And I think that's what led to. To some of the backlash, more so than just the lyrics of the song. Not saying I 100% agree with it, but I also could see the point in the MeToo movement. This song coming out at Christmas. Kind of a bad timing situation. Not that it was a new song, but playing them again. And a lot of it was a performance. The man blocking the door not allowing her to leave. It did give a little cringe factor, not gonna lie. And those vary depending on who performed it. So I think that might play into it just as well as Eartha Kitty being sexy girl can't help it. You know what I'm saying? So anyway, just following up on that. Definitely feel like there's a little. Little of that in there. That might be why. Keith, enjoy your holidays.
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Matt
Ah, seven, three, one. Great. Great call. I didn't realize this. I did not understand that. And I totally see it. You know, there were TV performances of this song, Baby, It's Cold Outside back in the day. And I can. I can. As you're describing it, I can see them hamming it up and kind of acting it out and dramatizing. And with that visual, I can see the thing being a little more. I can see the problem with it a little bit more clearly. However, any way you cut it, Baby It's Cold Outside. Politically correct, politically incorrect, however you view it, it's a fantastic song. Appreciate this little bit of information here, though. 731. Thank you. All right. Over on the text machine. 416. I love this text. 416 writes in. Hey, how about Christmas albums that don't exist but should, like the Smiths. Maybe songs such as Christmas is Over or the Last Star I Shall See. How about Santa Will Not Arrive. Happy Christmas. It may be my last Away in a Manger and It Is Cold. This guy's got a whole track listing for a fake Smith's Christmas album. This is fantastic. It goes on the present I cannot give. The present I cannot give. That's a Morrissey song, man. Christmas, Christmas for Caligula, this charming elf. And last but not least, shoplifters of the world unite on Boxing Day. Merry Christmas, Happy hanukkah and rocka rolla416. You text in anytime you want. That was amazing. Appreciate you. We had this whole thing going last week, guys. We made a mix in an unintentional Christmas mix that' you to hear on Spotify. If you're following me Disgraceland Pod or if you're. You're in in on the chat if you're in with us Discos in Patreon. I posted the link up there. You can find the link to the mix the playlist very, very easily. Got another one here. Another suggestion for. For untraditional Christmas songs. This is from the 508 says an interesting Christmas song or version of a Christmas song. I believe it was the band Weezer, oh Holy Night. And it was in a sitcom show called Raising Hope. That's when I first heard it and I was like, oh shit. Love that 508. Thank you. 248 writes in on the same topic. The Last Days of December. It's an obscure neo synth pop song from an obscure band on an even more obscure Christmas compilation. It's one of the prettiest songs I've ever heard. And one of the best things about December is that I get to go play it again and again. Here's to many more. December's 248. Love that ish wants an episode on Paris Hilton. Sorry. On Lionel Richie. And we work our way in through the gateway of Nicole Richie in Paris Hilton. Ish. I like this idea. I think there's a lot I I think Lionel Richie has an autobiography. As of. As a recent recent. As of recently as of lately recently published. Yay yai yai. I need more coffee. That I'm just interested in reading as a. As a fan and learning more. I bet he's got a great perspective. The guy's been around forever. So ish. You know, you might get your wish ish. Okay. Christmas wish for ish unintentional holiday songs. Now this is different from non traditional Christmas or holiday songs. Unintentional. I forget who it was on Patreon. Brought up in the ghetto as being an unintentional Christmas song by Elvis Presley. And I can hear it. So we had a little convo going on Patreon about that and some folks chimed in. Joni Mitchell's river has Christmas imagery, but I don't think it Clouds classifies as a Christmas song, but I think it should or no, she says I think it could go either way. That's Krista K. I don't know that song Krista, but I'm gonna check it out. Michael Murphy writes in Apollo 100 joy a disco fied version of Jehu Joy of man's desiring. Is that drive like Jehu? Michael has a bunch here. Human sexual response from Boston. Land of the glass pine cones. Wow. Never heard that. Ben Folds Five brick as a Christmas song. Michael could have started and stopped his list with this next recommendation here for an unintentional Christmas song. And it just perfectly embodies this concept. It is a Long December by Counting Crows. I mean, come on. Love this tune. Haven't talked about it at all this holiday season. Could have. It's just. Just smashing. Absolutely fabulous. Great TV show by the way. Absolutely fabulous. Okay, maybe next year we'll do more on this topic. I really like it because it's hard. You know, my brain just doesn't go to like 10 examples of this. You got to think about it for a minute. Unintentional Christmas songs. Songs that weren't intended to be Christmas but somehow have ended up representing the holiday season for us. Anyways, I love this idea and perhaps we'll do more of it next year over on Instagram. See here. San Dullivan commented. Which membership tier is this film should be played loud available to. This will definitely persuade me to sign up for Patreon, even if it's only for you guys. Well, you can just sign up and have it be only for us in Patreon. That's how it works. You can support us at a number of different levels. The $10 tier is going to get you our new video podcasts that you asked about. This film should be played loud. It's going to get you ad free listening. It's going to also get you extra exclusive content every month. The mini episode, the bonus section of this bonus episode, the video version of these bonus episodes. And it's also you're going to unlock the opportunity to meet with me and fellow discos twice a year. To get on a zoom and figure out what episodes we're going to be covering. There's also a whole bunch more patreon.com disgraceand actually just go to disgraceandpod.com right there in the homepage. You can sign up for Patreon. You can get a link to sign up. Hope to see it in the chat over in Patreon. Dude, with all the other with all the other discos. Now I'm gonna take a quick break and when I come back, I gotta lay this this thing on you guys. This thing that happened this past week that was pretty awesome. You might have heard of it, you might not have. Either way, we're gonna get into it back in the flash.
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Matt
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Elizabeth
What?
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Matt
Cause now I'm thinking. I'm thinking two things. I'm thinking, it's real and wow, this is really freaking cool. Like, I love. I love Jeopardy. I don't watch it every night, but I've watched it a lot throughout my life. And it's, you know, obviously a huge part of the fabric of our culture. So of course I'm like, this is amazing. But then I'm also just thinking, like, wait a minute. Don't, Don't. Shouldn't they have given, like, me a heads up? If this was real, I'd know it was gonna happen. And of course, I had no heads up. So then I text Matt and Zeth, who you guys know, obviously. And I know I just something without even asking. I'm assuming that Matt Bowden is, like, the biggest Jeopardy. Fan on the planet. And I'm thinking, if anybody watches this every night, it's him. And, yeah, he's a super fan, but these guys aren't watching tv. They're doing whatever. Neither of them know what's up. And I think they're both kind of like. As I'm texting them, my. My thought. Thinking is like, dude, you're out of your fricking mind. Then my sister, my little sister who's like, hours from going into labor texts me, and she's like, we're watching it. And they saw it. They actually, like, had the clip and they sent it. And turns out it aired up in the northeast an hour before it aired, where I'm at. So I was able to actually watch it, tape it, and with my two sons who didn't know what the hell was going on but thought it was pretty cool, as did my wife. And I don't. I don't know why, you know, I don't know why I think this is such a special thing. I've been. The show's been mentioned on, you know, other stuff that's as. As big, arguably, I guess, or, I don't know, part of the culture. But this is something about Jeopardy. It's been around forever, since I was a little kid. And it's just, like I said, such a fabric of our culture that it really made me happy that our show, Disgraceland was mentioned. And we're gonna play the clip for you guys right now, so. So you can hear this. It was quick. Of course. Matt, go ahead and play this for.
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The peeps podcast for 400.
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Matt
All right, guys, that's Disgraceland as part of the question in Jeopardy. And the answer was, of course, Sean Combs, who we will be talking about in the exclusive section of this after party. Going to be doing that with Zeth, as I, as I typically do, typically do the exclusive sections of the after party with Seth. And like I mentioned before, guys, if you sign up to become a Patreon member, you're going to get access to that exclusive content, plus other bonus content, including the mini episodes that are released pretty much every week. And also our new video podcast, this film should be be played loud. You also get ad free listening of all Disgraceland and Hollywoodland episodes. So go to Disgracelandpod.com to sign up to become a patreon member got a lot going on in Hollywoodland. I mentioned Zeth in the show that he helms, Hollywood Land. We did these special features for the holiday season. We did two of them on Christmas films. I did one, Matt did one, and we got one coming up on. On New Year's films, which I think you're going to be into. These are. These are fun discussions. I get to indulge fandom of film history. And Seth, of course, is the real expert here. Matt, give the people a little taste of. I don't know, I just pick one of the special features here from the holidays. And guys, if you aren't subscribed to Hollywoodland, get over to that feed and subscribe now.
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Seth
Okay, so a couple of movies here that I think are connected by the fact that they both have very pivotal scenes that play out during New Year's Eve parties are Boogie Nights and the Godfather Part ii. Boogie Nights has this New Year's Eve party that takes us from the decade of the 70s into the 80s, from film to video. It's the beginning of the end. There's a Goodfellas comp for this. The moment where there's no turning back with a story. You've been seduced by the lifestyle, and then all of a sudden, William H. Macy puts a gun to his head and blows his brains out. And now you're paying for that lifestyle. Right? And then the Godfather 2, of course, has this iconic New Year's Eve party scene in Cuba, which is the moment where Michael tells Fredo he knows that he was the one that betrayed him. What do you want to talk about first? Boogie Nights.
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Matt
Well, I want to talk about both of them. I want to make this point that one of them seems like a New Year's movie and the other one does not. And I feel like it goes to what I was saying earlier, where Boogie Nights, it does. I don't know. It just feels like they reinforce the New Year's piece of it more than in Godfather. Godfather. It's just part of this massive. You used the word set piece earlier. And certainly the party for Batista, that's all. Yeah, it's New Year's, and it feels. It's just everything kind of seems. The drama is. Is paying off so fully in that scene. Everything between Michael and Fredo and Michael's plan is coming to fruition, or it's starting to. The mechanics, anyways, of it. And the drama almost seems like it's too big for the. The New Year's scenery piece of it. So maybe that's why I never really think of that movie as a New Year's movie. Great movie. Obviously, whereas with Boogie Nights, they're set in this New Year's Eve party, and the drama that unfolds there is more of a surprise, perhaps more of a shocking turn that you're not expecting. You can kind of. In Godfather 2, you can kind of see what Michael's working up to. He kind of knows this is gonna happen. He doesn't set Fredo up, but he's kind of fishing to get the information from Fredo because he already suspects him somewhat. As the audience, you're kind of being brought along, even if you don't realize it. The Little Bill thing in Boogie Nights, the first time I watched it was a total shock.
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Seth
Absolutely. Because up until that point, like, you've been laughing and you've been laughing at Little Bill. Every time he turns around, his wife's, like, going to town with some guy, and there's a whole group of people watching, and it's. And he's sort of like the butt of the joke.
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Matt
All right, guys, that's the Hollywoodland podcast available for you right now in the Hollywoodland feed on whichever podcast app you use. Go subscribe now if you're not already. We'll be back right after this. All right, guys, we are back. And you know, we always talk about the archive here at the top of the E Block. And in this episode, gosh, we mentioned probably, I think, think 10 artists that are from our archive. Matt will hand cherry pick a selection of those artists. He'll provide the episode information in the show notes of this after party if you want to go check any of those stories out. And I definitely encourage you to dig into the 255plus episode archive of Disgraceland if you're a new listener, and get some of that archive action in your life. All right, I gotta get out of here. I gotta go to the gym. Then I gotta wrap a ton of presents. I think I'm gonna watch. Someone emailed Zeth, I saw this email in the inbox mentioned Beautiful Girls as a Christmas movie. And I never think of. Think of that Timothy Hutton, Natalie Portman film as a Christmas movie. But it absolutely is. And I think I'm gonna put that on tonight while I'm wrapping gifts later on. And if you haven't seen Beautiful Girls, there you go. There's a little recommendation for you. All right, number one, this week, our episod Johnny Ace and Elvis Presley that is available for you right now. Get the Christmas tragedy vibes there. Number two, rewind episodes on Lou Reed coming this week right after this after party. Number three, derek and the dominoes, happening next week with the Lawson family Christmas murder. Number four, Seth is going to give you those Hollywood and crime vibes in Hollywoodland, so make sure you're subscribed. Number five, this film should be played loud. Our new episode on Goodfellas. You gotta be a patreon member to cop that. So go to Disgracelandpod.com to sign up. Number 6, 61-7906-6638. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history. So keep calling texting with your answers to this week's question of the week or with whatever else you want to talk about. Number seven, don't forget discos. This isn't just content, it's a community. A community of the obsessed. And no one cares about music, books, records and the crime and grime that ties them all together like you do. And, well, that's a disgrace. All right, Joan Baez was arrested on December 19, 1967. And here's what America was listening to on that day. According to the Billboard charts, number one, daydream Believer. The monkeys. Last week, one weeks on chart six. Peak position one. Number two, I heard it through the grapevine, Gladys Night in the pips. Last week, two weeks on chart 10. Peak position two. Number three, hello, goodbye, the Beatles. Last week, weeks on chart. Number four. I second that emotion. Smokey Robinson in the miracles. Last week four weeks on chart eight, position four, number five, woman.
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