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Bonus Episode: Books They Don't Want You to Read and Books We Want Them to Write
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Jake Brennan
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This is the podcast that comes after the podcast welcome to Disgraceland. The afterparty welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the After Party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard to dig into the dirt on this bonus episode, we are talking about Mama Cass Elliot. We are previewing the coming episode on Chris Cornell Talking down and Dirty Rock Star Autobiographies. And we get into your voicemails, texts, DMs, emails, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. All right, discos, let's get into it. In the Mama Cass Elliott episodes at the top of your feed this week, there is one story in particular that really influenced my thinking about the story about Cass, about Sharon Tate, Charles Manson, et cetera. And it's the story that actor Michael Caine tells about being at a party at Cass's house where both Sharon Tate and Charles Manson are present. I heard about this story in Tom O'Neill's book Chaos. Tom cites it, and the reason this story is so important is because it blows a major hole in Vincent Bugliosi's Helter Skelter theory. Now, I'm not going to get into all of it here, because that's what the Mama Cass Elliot episodes are for, and the Sharon Tate ones as well. Those are in the Hollywoodland feed, by the way, But I bring it up to get to another point when I read this story in Tom ONeills Chaos, the story of Sharon Tate and Charles Manson being at the same party that is depicted by Michael Caine. I had to see the original source material because the story was so bizarre and just no one had ever mentioned anything like this before. So I went looking for the. The book that O'Neill cites. It's called what's It all about by Michael Caine, which is an autobiography and largely details the actor's early days in Hollywood. Michael Caine has multiple memoirs and this is just one of them. This one is very well written, published by a real publishing house, et cetera. And Michael Caine is still, as you know, very much relevant. So you can imagine my surprise when I learned that this book is not only out of print, but it is extremely hard to get your hands on. So difficult that it started to seem to me that it was almost like they didn't want you to read it. But I got the book anyway. I paid a pretty penny for it online. And there isn't much in the book that is risque or revealing or over the top or incriminating, except for this story, the one about Charles Manson and Sharon Tate being at the same party. And the story's not even integral to the book. It's a very small passage in one, one chapter Beach Boy, Dennis Wilson's book, the Real Beach Boy. Now I get why they don't want you to read this book. It's chock full of wild stories about Dennis and his time in the so called Golden Penetrators with Terry Melcher and Greg Jacobson. If you want to hear more on this story, you can check out the Beach Boys Disgraceland episodes. But the point is these two books, each detailing portions of the real Charles Manson's story. For whatever reason, they can't be obtained and read easily. And one of these is an autobiography and the other, it's not an autobiography, it's a biography, but it's not a work of fiction. Okay? Now, at the same time right now as I'm going through all this in my head, talking to you guys about it, I'm reading another book by an author named Manson. No, not Charles Manson, Marilyn Manson. I'm reading his or Brian Warner's autobiography. Brian Warner is of course the real name of Marilyn Manson. And the Marilyn Manson autobiography is called the Long Hard Road out of Hell. I'm reading this in preparation for a Marilyn Manson episode that's coming your way in late May. Now, there's nothing in Michael Caine's autobiography or in the Dennis Wilson biography that on face value, even approaches the shocking amount of material in Marilyn Manson's book. So my first question is, why? Why are the Michael Caine and Dennis Wilson books nearly impossible to get your hands on? And I think I answered that question. I think I answered it in the episodes on Cass Elliot. But my second question is, what are the most shocking rock star autobiographies? Now, I went looking for a list, and I guess the real shock here is that there isn't really a list. So I thought, who better to make this list than us, then yours truly here with your help, I've read my fair share of these books. So you guys have heard me talk about these artists. So we're all in this sort of unique position to put this list together. But then I thought, well, lists are kind of boring unless they're totally outrageous, like the list of top grunge albums from a couple weeks back or that list of artists nominated for the Rock and Roll hall of Fame from last week. By the way, we should have a final list of inductees by next week's afterparty. We'll get into that. So my point is, I don't want to make this list, but I do do want to tell you that the Marilyn Manson autobiography is without a doubt the most damning book by a rock star that I've ever read. More damning than Motley Crue's the Dirt? More damning than Rick James book Glow. I'm halfway through Manson's autobiography, and so far there isn't a shred of humility or even really humanity. It is pretty fucking dark. It is funny, though, so I guess there's some humanity in that somehow. Marilyn Manson is funny. I think I knew that, but I didn't really. Haven't really experienced it before. And Manson is a really good writer. He truly is. But like I said, Marilyn Manson, dark. Now, my final thinking on this subject. What major rock stars have yet to write their autobiographies? Now, this. This, to me, is an interesting list. Madonna is at the top of this list. And you'd think that Madge would have written her story by now, but no. And I think it's because she's working on her story for a film, and she's been doing this for the past few years, but I can't really say. All I can say is that I've read enough already about Madonna. I've heard enough as well about Madonna secondhand, some firsthand, actually, on what Madonna got up to in the 1980s and the 90s. And I'm just saying, if Madonna took An honest stab at telling her story, then I'm certain it would give Marilyn and MLE crew a run for their money. The 90s were up, man. Dark, Dark Rockstar went on in the 90s, and Madonna was at the height of her power during that decade. So there's Madonna, but who else is there? Okay, there's Mick Jagger. Yes, there is as of yet, no autobiography by Mr. Jerry Hall. Mick just got engaged, by the way. 82 years old, and his fiance is only something like six years older than tattoo you. I'm not clever enough to have come up with that on my own. I stole that from rock journalist Stephen Haydn on Twitter. That's not my joke. Mick Jagger not having an autobiography, though, that's not a joke either. This is more of a crime. Okay, as music lovers, as music historians, we deserve a Mick Jagger autobiography. I find it curious that there's no Mick Jagger autobiography. Why not? I'll tell you why not. There's too many stories. And unlike Keith Richards, I'm betting that Mick Jagger remembers most of what he's gone through in his life. And he's likely horrified by the prospect of having to piece it all into a narrative. And what would happen to him if he did. Mick made an attempt in the early 80s at an autobiography, but his publisher rejected it, saying that it was too light on the sex and the drugs. I don't think we're ever getting a Mick Jagger autobiography, not in a post MeToo era. Now, all the other books I've mentioned here were released pre. Me too. When Marilyn Manson and Motley Crue and Rick James and the like get away with detailing their horrible treatment of women firsthand. I still cannot believe that they wrote these books. I couldn't believe it then, I can't believe it now. Honestly. It's from. You know, it's in part why I started Disgrace Sam. But Mick, Mick Jaggery, he's too smart. I think he'd gained nothing by telling his story, other than in an ego boost, I suppose. But my guess is Mick is taking his stories to the grave. Madonna, on the other hand. An autobiography by Madonna would be less shocking were it to be released, but I doubt we'd get the real shit. My guess is she cherry picked certain stories for shock value, but wouldn't give us any of what really went down, which is her prerogative. I wouldn't mind a Kanye autobiography, a real one, not some racist performance art piece like his X account currently serves as. I'd like an explanation as to what the fuck's been going on in his head the last five years, 10 years really. But I fear that the mentally ill, at least relative to Kanye, I don't think he has the ability for that kind of self reflection. But you know, I'd like Kanye's take on the entertainment industry. I really, truly like a real take from his vantage point. It's never going to happen though. All right. Maybe you'll get a Kanye episode of Disgraceland though sometime in the near future to go with your Marilyn Manson episode. That's definitely happening. I do know. Coming up next in your feed you're getting a couple Eagles episodes. Talk about stories rock stars don't want you to hear. The Henley story in the book, you'll never make love in this town again. I spent a pretty penny small fortune getting my hands on that book as well. And you will hear why when you listen to these two episodes that are coming up. So much debauchery. Okay, following those Eagles Rewind episodes that are hitting your feet tomorrow, our next full episode on Tuesday is on Chris Cornell of Soundgarden and Audioslave. Which brings us to next week's Question of the Week. When you're listening to the Chris Cornell episode, I want you to be thinking about which musicians had a follow up band that was better than their breakthrough band. Okay, so what do you mean by that? Well, come on. Chris Cornell broke through with Soundgarden, but he followed it up with Audioslave. And a lot of people think, and I'm not one of them, that Audioslave is better than Soundgarden. So there's a bunch of these examples out there. I'm not gonna go through them now. We're gonna go through them next week when you call me 61790 and leave me a voicemail and send me a text and let me know which artists follow up bands were as impactful or better than their breakthrough bands. Okay. All right, I'm gonna take a break. I'll be hanging on the telephone on the other side of this break with your voicemails, texts and DMs. Here I am 3:36 in the PM. It's the afternoon. I need a break. My train of thought is fading. I already worked out and expended the energy boost that gave me. I've been desk deep in writing and recording all afternoon and I've drank all the caffeine I can drink today. And if I want to get to bed at a reasonable hour, I can't drink anymore. So what's a focus challenged ex cigarette smoking podcaster to do well. Going to crack into a Lucy Nicotine Pouch mint flavor because you know me, I'm fresh. 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Or about DWAYNE the Rock Johnson's snatch and grab gang and the Rock's nearly 10 arrests? What about Danny Trejo running a drug protection racket while in lockup? The obsessive killing of Dorothy Stratton? The real life murder that inspired David Lynch's Twin Peaks? The three conspiracies surrounding Marilyn Monroe's death death? These stories and more are told in the new podcast Hollywoodland, where true crime and Tinseltown collide. Hollywoodland is hosted by me, Jake Brennan, creator of the award winning music and true crime podcast Disgraceland. Follow and listen to Hollywoodland wherever you get your podcasts. This episode is brought to you by the Nissan Armada Pro 4X with a twin turbo V6 engine ready to propel your adventures up to 8,500 pounds of towing capacity, capacity to haul all your favorite toys and space for eight passengers. Nissan's most powerful car yet will chew up and spit out anything you throw at it. 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Justin
Oh, Jake, this is Justin from the 54 0. I just really needed to weigh in on this debacle that we're calling the Rock and Roll hall of Fame, sham, whatever you want to call it. But anyway, your. Your list gave me an idea for my own list. So here's my seven. Okay? And we'll go in order one to seven. So first one, you know, Motorhead. Second would be Fog Hat, maybe Blue Oyster Culture. Third would be Humble Pie. Fourth would be Johnny Thunders and. Or the New York Dolls. 5. Billy Idol. 6. We'll go ahead and do Oasis now. 7, 7. I'm gonna go ahead and throw the Misfits in there just because I want to.
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Jake Brennan
Because it is Justin. Thank you for the call. Fantastic list, man. I don't know about Fog Hat. I mean, I could quibble with your list, but I think, I think you're right on with Johnny Thunders and New York Dolls, Billy Idol and Oasis. I like how you're tipping your hat to the current nominees. I think that's smart. I think this is a solid list. And you talk about the Misfits later. I mean, yeah, you gotta. There needs to be room for more of that OG 70s, early 80s punk that went on to influence so many of the bands that are currently being nominated that are from later generations, 90s, et cetera. That's what I'm talking about. Love, love the take. Justin, thanks so much. We'll get into this more, guys, and next week. I wanted to play Justin's voicemail because we're going to get into this more next week. I think next week, by the time we talk again, and if not next week, definitely the week after, we should have some clarity from the Rock and Roll hall of Fame on who the seven nominees, excuse me, inductees for this year will be. In the meantime, you want to voice your opinion on who those seven should be. 617-90-6-6638. Voicemail and text. All right, let's check out this one from the four seven zero.
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Justin
Hey, Jake. It's one of your biggest fans, Bernard. Mine is a two part issue. One is I can't find any of your Bathlands anywhere. Have you taken them off? I would love, you know, for you to repost them and tell us where we can still listen to them because, you know, they're so wonderful, you know, even if you have to rebrand them, you know, Disgraceland. I would love to still be able to access them. And number two, I think there are two stories that you really need to look into, do some research and tell the world about. One is the great vocalist Roy Hamilton, how he is the genesis of Elvis's singing style so much that everyone who does an impression vocally of Elvis is doing an impression of an impression to the great, unbelievably unherited R B singer Little Willie John. His is the very first version and the best version of the song Fever. And the story about how he died and the stabbing, you know, that took place in that house, you know, that. That went on, that cost of his freedom. It is a fascinating story and he is truly and unsung, you know, unheralded, you know, vocal talent, as is Roy Hamilton. I would love to see what you could do with those stories.
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Jake Brennan
Take care, Bernard. Thank you. Thank you for the voicemail, Bernard. Bernard, you have an excellent voice. You ever thought about doing a podcast? First question, Hollywoodland. Sorry, you said Badlands. Where can I find the Badlands episodes? We've rebranded them Hollywoodland. That's likely why you're not finding them. Bernard. Just search Hollywoodland and any of your podcast players and you'll find a new feed, a Hollywoodland feed. And you can subscribe. Subscribe there. And we've got about 40 or so episodes in there right now, and we're gonna have more news on Hollywoodland and what we got coming down the pike in a couple weeks on your suggestions, really great ones. Roy Hamilton. I don't know much about Roy Hamilton. People have brought him up to me in the past. Appreciate your. Your prompting here. It's gonna make me do a little digging. I'll root around, see if I can find a crime angle, some. Some sort of angle besides just the. The Elvis influence. Little Willie John, Is that who. Who I'm thinking of that real, real high voice. I didn't know about the stabbing. I love that this is a true crime angle with Little Willie John. So perhaps that's something that we'll get into in the near future as well. Bernard, thank you so much for the call. Appreciate 617-906-6638. Guys, you want to get in touch Voicemail and text. Oh, my God, look at this one. Okay, this one comes from. This text comes from the 302. Who writes in bro? My local library has what's it All About. I just put a hold on it. Okay, so what's it all about is the Michael Caine book we were just talking about. Then I get another text this is a couple hours later. It's also on Audible and you can buy it used from Amazon. Okay, cool, cool. Then I get another text about an hour later. So the audible books skip 1966 to 1973, conveniently. How fucked up is that? So the book is available through Audible, which I didn't know. I guess I wasn't. I would never. I don't do any research with audio books. I just do it all with hard copies or digital books. I need a book when I'm researching, not in my ears. So I did not look on Audible for the Michael Caine book. But how interesting is this that it is available but they've cut out the year 1969 when this meeting happens. Crazy 302. Love this text. Thank you. All right, Nine Two Zero is writing in, telling me they're an ancestor of John Wilkes Booth. What? No. Edward P. Daugherty, who tracked John Wilkes Booth and brought his body back to Washington D.C. i don't know what that has to do with Disgrace Hunt. But hey, I'm in an interesting family lineage. So. Yeah. Thank you for the text. Nine two zero, what else we got here? Mike from the 585 in Rochester. Mike from the 585 in Rochester talking about Rochester being featured again in the Billy Idol episode. What is it with musicians getting arrested there? That's right. Bowie and Iggy Pop were arrested in Rochester as well. And 585 is talking here about Joy Division and New Order. That one escapes me. 585, thank you for the text. 3, 4, 6 writes in hello. I've been listening for years, but I needed to put my 2 cents in on the Rock and Roll hall of Fame nominees. I'm a first generation Mexican American and I love Mana and what they stand for. Their activism for humanitarian and environmental rights has been something I always responded to. And I vividly remember singing songs as a kid and later learning their true meaning. It's music I still play and enjoy introducing to my kids. It's part of our history and culture. Love to get your take on some of their classic albums from Houston. Suzy. Suzy. I'm going to check it out. And I meant no disrespect to Mana. I hope I'm saying that correctly. But my only point was, as I made last week, I. I should. I should know. I should at least heard of a band if they're being nominated into the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. And I don't put that on me. You can put it on me, but I don't put it on me. I put it on the band. That was my only point. Doesn't mean they're not good. Doesn't mean that I'm not going to love them. Doesn't mean they're not, I don't know, worthy of massive fan base. I'm going to check them out. Appreciate you, Susie. Thank you. 617-906-6638 you guys want to send me a voicemail or a text? 812 writes in. I just started listening to Disgraceland and I'm all in. You and your team rock my socks. We're all about rocking those socks. Welcome. Thanks for hanging out. Callback voicemail. You know, texting is like the entry, the gateway drug to Disgraceland, to the Disgraceland community. Voicemail. You're all in, man. 617-906-6638 can also send us a DM Disgracelandpod on Instagram x Facebook Coco over on Instagram, our good friend Coco writes in response to this post we made in our stories. I did this interview with the Creative Independent, great little magazine up in the Northwest, about process, about what I do to write and produce these shows, mainly the writing side of it. And I spoke about, you know, everything really get into the granular nuts and bolts of it. And I spoke about getting up early. It's just part of the routine because I have to get the writing, the hardest part done early before the rest of the day kind of impedes upon my brain. And Coco writes in so relatable. I get up at 5am too and do all the important heavy work first. Nice to have some insight on your creative process. If you guys are interested, like Coco in the creative process, just search out Disgraceland. Jake Brennan and the Creative Independent has a great interview in there that I did with with my man Jay Bennett. All right, we're doing something new here in the after party. You guys can have yours truly, myself, me, me, myself and I on your voicemail machine. Okay? I can be the voice of your virtual answering machine. I will record a message for you is what I'm saying that you can play. You can have playing for whoever calls you to leave you a message. Hey, this is Jake Brennan from Disgraceland and Deb isn't available to take your call right now because she's out doing something awesome. So leave your message at the tone or something like that. Here's how you can make this happen. You the Easter egg. That's right, it's Easter this weekend and that means it's Easter egg time. And I don't just mean the literal kind. I mean the figurative kind. And the figurative Easter eggs are in the most recent episode of Hollywoodland Part 2 on Sharon Tate. Now, there's an Easter egg in that episode, if you can find it. And you can be the first to comment on our Instagram today, or first to call me or text me at 617-906-6638 with the right answer. Then you, yes, you, Mr. Or Mrs. Disgraceland listener, Will, like I said, receive a recording of me for your voicemail message. Here's the Easter egg question in the Sharon Tate Part 2 episode of Hollywoodland, who did Sharon Tate ask for advice from concerning her marital problems with Roman Polanski? Who did Sharon seek out for advice? Okay, that's the question. Call me 617-906-6638 and leave me a voicemail. Send me a text with your answers or just be the first to comment the answer on the Instagram post when we pose this question. Again, the Easter egg answer is in the Sharon Tate Part 2 episode of Hollywoodland. And now for something totally different. Quick sports rant in under 30 seconds. Speaking of autobiographies, earlier in this episode, the most fascinating man in the history of sports has a new autobiography out. Bill Belichick, coach of the New England Patriots. And I hear that there are no juicy tidbits to be had, just straight talk on leadership and winning. And I'm sorry, I almost bored myself to sleep there. I don't want talk on leadership and winning. I already got that in the Habersham book on Bill Belichick, okay? I don't need another one of those books, all right? I want the dirt man. I want to know why Bill jettison Brady out of New England. I want to know why Bill sat Wes Welker to start the 2010 AFC Championship. I want to know what in the hell Malcolm Butler did to piss off Bill Belichick before Super bowl lii. Okay, all right, that's enough sports. Back in the flash with your emails and the Hollywoodland minute. It's spring Black Friday at the Home Depot. So what are you working on? If you're sprucing up your lawn, you know there's no such thing as too much mulch, so don't miss this special. Buy five bags of Scott's Earthgro mulch for only $10 at the home Depot. Promote healthier soil, prevent weeds, and beautify your yard with mulch that maintains its color for up to 12 months. 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And you know what time it is. It's time for the Hollywoodland minute. Brought to you by the Hollywoodland Podcast. Don't know what the Hollywoodland Podcast is? Well, the Hollywoodland podcast is hosted by yours truly, where every week I tell you a story from the annex of Hollywood and true crime. And right now there are over 40 episodes waiting for you to binge episodes on James Dean, Armie Hammer, Charlie Sheen, Danny Trejo, Marilyn Monroe, Steve McQueen, Drew Barrymore, Jane Fonda, and most recently the the very talented and very beautiful Sharon Tate. Here's a clip. October 10, 1967. A hotel room in Rome. America's perfect movie star, Sharon Tate watching television more than a thousand miles away on a Southampton dock in the uk, Sharon's friend Mama Cass Elliott was in handcuffs. Sharon watched it all go down on the black and white set like the rest of America watching on their own TV sets back home. Sharon was in shock. Cass was being charged with stealing towels and soap from a London hotel. Held over from the last time she was in London. How embarrassing. Sharon could relate. She herself had recently been arrested for something even more ridiculous than pilfering toiletries. Busted on a train in Italy for the offense of wearing a short dress. Dress that was a little too short. Someone should tell the Italian cops that the societal norms were shifting. 13 million women in the world on the pill. Sex and the single girl selling millions. Even if its author couldn't say the word sex on television. And if you weren't prepared for all that, grandpa, then buckle up for Valley of the Dolls, which hit the cinemas that December. It was the 60s. People could go where they wanted to go, do what they wanted to do. Unless, of course, they were Mama Cass. Something about Cass's bus just didn't sit right with Sharon. Her arrest in 1967 was, for a minute anyway, all anyone back home in the States could talk about. Even more than Sharon's skimpy outfits in Valley of the Dolls, it would remain one of America's most infamous busts from the world of pop stardom until two years years later in 1969, when another arrest for the murder of Cass Elliott's loyal and sympathetic friend would nearly eradicate Cass's seemingly innocent bus from the pop consciousness. All right, guys, make sure you are subscribed to Hollywoodland on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. Next week we have our episode on Robin Williams coming your way, and you're not going to want to miss that. All right. Disgraceandpodmail.com youm got anything you want to get off your chest? Send me an email. Christopher Easley writes in short and sweet, the way I like it. Was Mama Cass doing freak offs before Diddy? Uh, no. But there was some, I believe, some really, really gruesome shit going on. And yeah, I'm reading this email in part because if you have not heard these episodes yet, what are you waiting for? Get in there. Okay. You're not going to be disappointed. This one comes from Jim Greenhow, who writes in hey, love your pods, Jake. I think I came across your podcast while listening to Karina Longworth's podcast. I don't really remember, but I have been listening nonstop to both pods every day. Your pods make my day go so much faster. My favorite episodes so far are James Dean, Dennis Hopper, Drew Barrymore, et cetera, et cetera, to name a few. Sid Vicious goes on to say, I think a big part of what makes your pod so successful. And then he goes on to say very nice things about my voice. I want to get to this part of the email here. Jim goes on to say, I do have one subject for you that I think you could do a real deep dive into. Errol Flynn and his son, Sean Flynn. I don't think they've ever even found Sean Flynn's body in Vietnam or Cambodia. And then there's the rumors about Errol being either a spy or a Nazi sympathizer. And the young girls, of course. Well, take care and I'll keep posting the links to your pods on my social media. I read this Jim, because it's so on topic for today's bonus episode of Afterparty. Again, we've hit on all these books. The Errol Flynn autobiography. It's called My Life. It's something very basic like that. I have. I think I have a first edition of that. I have a really, really old copy that was very hard to get. And one of those things that's out of print. And it's out of print for a reason. The stuff in that book is fucking crazy. And one, I didn't know anything about his son either this is. Or the Nazi sympathizing stuff. This sounds fantastic. I'm pumped. And to be honest, I haven't even read Errol Flynn's autobiography yet. I've skimmed it. It's the type of thing you can just pick up and get pulled into, really, any page and just your jaw will be on the floor. We got into the Errol Flynn Bundy boys story in the Drew Barrymore episode because her grandfather was involved in it. That's in the Hollywoodland episode. Just this story is fucking nuts. And we also got into it more explicitly in the Marilyn Monroe episodes because Marilyn was present during this event or during the telling of this event. Yeah, one of Errol Flynn's many sort of like party tricks. Anyhow, Errol's influence so notorious, Jim, that he's popped up in those two episodes, but have not yet done one on him for Hollywoodland. But I will, I'm telling you right now. Oh, man, it's kind of dreary here. And I just have this image of me like curled up in my comfy chair over here with that Errol Flynn book for the rest of the afternoon, just reading it away. That ain't gonna happen, though. I gotta finish this episode. We'll get some reviews to check out right here. You know why we do the reviews? Because the reviews help the show grow. You guys help me out with the reviews on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. If I read it here, you guys get in touch and I get you some merch. That's how it works. 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Go check those out. Binge away. All right, we're about to get out of here, so let's recap. Number one, my other podcast, Hollywoodland, is alive and kicking over in the Hollywoodland feed. So make sure you're subscribed and following Hollywoodland on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. And get ready for our Hollywoodland Robin Williams episode coming on Monday. That noise you just heard is my son coming in and then leaving. Number two right now in your Disgraceland feed, our two part episode on Mama Cass Elliot. Number three coming tomorrow, our rewind episodes on the Eagles. And next week, Chris Cornell. So make sure you're subscribed to Disgraceland. Number four Merch winners. Get in touch. You know who you are. Number five. Remember, no one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do. And, well, that is a disgrace. All right, in honor of this week's subject, Sharon Tate, this is me reading you the Billboard charts from the infamous day Ms. Tate was taken from us. August 8, 1969. Number one in the year 2525 Zagar and Evans last week 1 Peak position 1 Weeks on chart 82 Crystal Blue Persuasion Tommy James and the Shondells last week 2 Peak position 2 Weeks on chart 10. Number 3 Honky Tonk Women the Rolling Stones last week 8 Peak position 3 Weeks on churns 4 Number 4 what does it Take To Win youn Love, Junior Walker and the all stars last week 5 Peak position the year 4 weeks on chart number 5 Sweet Caroline, Neil diamond last week 7 Keep positions 5 mix on charts.
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Justin
Quit talking and start mixing.
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Jake Brennan
Cut it.