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Hey discos. Need a little more Disgraceland in your life? Just a touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland. The after party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show. The party. After the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. Backyard to dig into the dirt our Mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we are discussing Lady Gaga conspiracies, Kanye West's apology. And in our exclusive section, we're going to dig into the David Bowie Kanye west conspiracy to end all conspiracies. Plus tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, discos, let's get into it. Okay, as noted in our recent episode on Lady Gaga, the best conspiracy theories are fueled by bizarre truths. Which is why the Gaga conspiracy theories are compelling compared to, say, the conspiracy theories about Kanye West. The theory that Kanye is a clone. The theory that Kanye is Taylor Swift's protector, that Kanye is David Bowie's starman. This theory, by the way, is bat shit crazy, and Seth and I are unpacking it in the exclusive section of the After Party that's coming up later. The Kanye Bowie theory aside, though, there are also the numerous conspiracy theories Kanye himself has spread. Now, most are gross anti Semitic vitriol that I'm not going to repeat here, but good examples of the awful behavior that Kanye is now seeking to redeem himself of. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is news. Okay, just this past Monday, on January 25, 2026, Kanye. Excuse me, I keep calling him Kanye. I'm supposed to call him Yee or Yay or however the hell it's pronounced. I'm calling him Kanye. Kanye took out a full page in the Wall Street Journal earlier this week. On Monday. Okay, I'm going to read it in its entirety. Don't worry, it's relatively short, but I'm doing this for a reason. Mainly because I want to know what you guys think of this apology. Is it enough for you to forgive him? I'm sure you're all aware of his transgressions, and he's going to talk about the worst of them in this letter. So I want to know if this apology, if it. If it holds up for you guys, if it carries the water, and if not, why not? I'll let you know my thoughts on the other end. All right, like I said, this is a paid advertisement in the Wall Street Journal titled, To those I've hurt by Ye. Yay. I can never get it right. Formerly known as Kanye West. To those I've hurt. 25 years ago, I was in a car accident that broke my jaw and caused injury to the right frontal lobe of my brain. At the time, the focus was on the visible damage, the fracture, the swelling, and the immediate physical trauma. The deeper Injury, the one inside my skull, went unnoticed. Comprehensive scans were not done, neurological exams were limited, and the possibility of a frontal lobe injury was never raised. It wasn't properly diagnosed until 2023. And that medical oversight caused serious damage to my mental health and led to my bipolar type 1 diagnosis. Bipolar disorder comes with its own defense system, denial. When you're manic, you don't think you're sick, you think everyone else is overreacting. You feel like you're seeing the world more clearly than ever, when in reality, you're losing your grip entirely. Once people label you as crazy, you feel as if you cannot contribute anything meaningful to the world. It's easy for people to joke and laugh it off, when in fact this is a very serious, debilitating disease you can die from. According to the World Health Organization and Cambridge University, people with bipolar disorder have a life expectancy that is shortened by 10 to 15 years on average and a 2 to 3 times higher all cause mortality rate than the general population. This is on par with severe heart disease, type 1 diabetes, HIV and cancer. All lethal and fatal if left untreated. The scariest thing about this disorder is how persuasive it is when it tells you you do not need help. It makes you blind, but convinced. You have insight. You feel powerful, certain, unstoppable. I lost touch with reality. Things got worse the longer I ignored the problem, I said and did things I deeply regret. Some of the people I love the most, I treated the worst you endured fear, confusion, humiliation and the exhaustion of trying to have someone who was at times unrecognizable. Looking back, I became detached from my true self. In that fractured state, I gravitated toward the most destructive symbol I could find, that the swastika, and even sold T shirts bearing it. One of the difficult aspects of having bipolar type 1 are the disconnected moments, many of which I still cannot recall, that led to poor judgment and reckless behavior that oftentimes feels like an out of body experience. I regret and in deeply mortified by my actions in that state and am committed to accountability, treatment and meaningful change. It does not excuse what I did. Though I am not a Nazi or an anti Semite, I love Jewish people. To the black community which held me down through all the highs and lows and the darkest of times. The black community is unquestionably the foundation of who I am. I am so sorry to have let you down. I love us. In early 2025, I fell into a four month long manic episode of psychotic fear, paranoid and impulsive behavior that destroyed my life. As the situation became increasingly unsustainable, there were times I didn't want to be here anymore. Having bipolar disorder is a notable state of constant mental illness. When you go into a manic episode, you are ill at that point. When you are not in an episode, you are completely normal. And that's when the wreckage from the illness hits the hardest. Hitting rock bottom A few months ago, my wife encouraged me to finally get help. I have found comfort in Reddit forums of all places. Different people speak of being in manic or depressive episodes of a similar nature. I read their stories and realize that I was not alone. It's not just me who ruins their entire life once a year. Despite taking meds every day and being told by the so called best doctors in the world that I am not bipolar but merely experiencing symptoms of autism, my words as a leader in my community have global impact and influence. In my mania, I lost complete sight of that. As I find my new baseline and new center. Through an effective regime of medication, therapy, exercise, and clean living, I have newfound much needed clarity. I am pouring my energy into positive, meaningful art, music, clothing, design and other new ideas to help the world. I'm not asking for sympathy or a free pass. Though I aspire to earn your forgiveness, I write today simply to ask for your patience and understanding as I find my way home. With love, Ye. So what do you think? I really want to know, and I'm. I'm hesitant to let you know what I think because I don't want to. I don't want to influence your opinion in any way. And I guess I. I don't have. I don't have a firm take on this yet, you know, noticeably the phrase I'm sorry or I apologize is missing from that entire statement. He does talk about earning our forgiveness. He does talk about his regret over what he had said, and he clearly damns and judges himself for it. So that could just be a semantic thing, but everything else seems so intentional in this letter that it also seems kind of intentional that that phrase wasn't there. I don't know. I don't know. I'm willing. I guess what I'm saying is I'm willing to give this guy the benefit of the doubt. I think Kanye west is one of the greatest musical artists from pop music that we've ever had. He's tremendous, tremendously talented, you know, on the level with the great, greatest of all time. And I think what, what has happened to him is, to use a word, intentionally disgraceful and, you know, though I'm not part of the black community, I do feel let down by him just as a. As. Not even as a Kanye fan, but just as a fan of music. So I don't really know what to make of this. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I'm trying not to look at this with 100% cynicism because that's not my jam. That's not how I look at anything really, except politics. So it's a difficult one. I think what I'm going to do is I've done some thinking here. Okay, I've done very little research, but I've done some thinking. And you know, that thinking. You know, let me. When I read this, I had a couple thoughts. First, why now? Why is he doing this now? Second, is Kanye broke? And the answer to that question is no, not even close. After his racist breakdown, his net worth plummeted from 2.7 billion down to an estimated 400 million. Now, Kanye disputes this valuation, pegging his net worth himself closer to the original 2 billion. But after losing valuable partnerships with Adidas, the gap Balenciaga. Is that how you pronounce that? Balenciaga? It's hard to see how that 2 bill number is. Even the less than 2.7 bill, the 2 bill number that Kanye is saying. It's hard to see how that's accurate. But still, even if it's just 400 million, that's 400 million. And I don't care who you are, what type of lifestyle you're used to, 400 million is still fuck you, money. So, no, Kanye west isn't broke and he doesn't need the money here. So if it's not the money, can we presume perhaps that Kanye, despite whatever other selfish reasons he might have, social standing, access to his kids, audience growth, whatever. Can we presume here that he's being sincere, that his bipolar condition is the actual reason and that he's truly sorry? I can buy the excuse, I guess. I think even though that's not what he's calling it, I don't want to put words in his mouth. He didn't really come up and literally say this is the excuse, though he is giving it as a reason. Lots of people are sick and Kanye west certainly seems like he's one of them. But is he truly sorry? That I don't know, but I hope so. So what I'm going to do is dig more into Kanye west and try to find out all to say it feels like there's a Kanye west episode coming soon. In the meantime, however, I want to know what you guys think of this apology. Do you believe number one, do you believe his remorse is sincere? And number two, can you still listen to his music? Either or Both? Answers to 617-906-6638 to Let Me know and you might hear your answer on next week's afterparty bonus episode. And don't sleep on this David Bowie Kanye west conspiracy theory that I mentioned earlier. Zeth and I are unpacking it in the exclusive section of this episode. Exclusive section of the after party is for All Access members. If you're not an All Access member and you want to unlock this story and more exclusive content like our weekly mini episodes, our all new video podcast. This film should be played loud if you want a place to connect and talk music and movies and everything else with your fellow discos in the community. Chat and get ad free listening on all Disgraceland and Hollywoodland episodes. Then go to Disgracelandpod.com to become an All Access member today for as little as a dollar a month. All right, back to Gaga and the Conspiracy Theories. Our two part Lady Gaga episode is available right now for you to check out. Coming up tomorrow in the Rewind slot is our Kendrick Lamar episode. And then next week our brand new episode on Jane's Addiction. This is part two of our Jane's Addiction story. We'll be rolling out part one on Monday from our archive as a refresher. And then the new Jane's Addiction story on the grimy true crime origins of the band will hit on Tuesday. So when you're listening to Jane's Addiction Part 2, be thinking about which band best embodies the 1990s 90s? Is it Jane's Addiction? Now hold up. I know some of you are going to go straight to Nirvana or to another Seattle band, but without Jane's Addiction paving the way through the mainstream first, as we discuss in this coming episode, it's hard to imagine Nirvana or anyone else breaking out in that most glorious decade. So the question is, which band best embodies the 90s? 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Jake Brennan
Jake, this is Mr. Taylor from Raleigh, North Carolina, calling in about last week's bonus episode about the Grammys. And, man, the Grammys are iconic. You know, I agree with your take that it's a mess. It's totally unrepresentative of what the fans really care about. It has everything to do with what the industry wants to push. But there's been so many great Grammy moments. I think back to Henry Rollins performing A Liar to a stunned crowd of tuxedo clad music executives, while Henry Rollins is himself wearing a tuxedo. But of course he's barefoot, as he always is. You know, Eddie Vedder said it best when he accepted his Grammy in 1996 for Vitalogy. You know, I don't understand what it means to get an award for art. What does it really mean? Or even just this last year when Kendrick Lamar swept the Grammys and had an entire arena of Drake's collaborators and so called friends singing the seminal line from one of the great diss tracks of all time. You know, the Grammys have come full circle too. Here we are this year, and I'm encouraged to see bands like Turnstile and Wet Leg and Emil and the Sniffers and Youngblood had been nominated. But in those same categories, you have the Deftones and Linkin park nominated. So if you go back to Jethro Toll beating out Metallica, which at the time seemed crazy to me, you know, 17 years after Aqualon came out and they were no longer relevant, you get the Deftones up against turnstile 26 years after their breakout album Light Tony was released, and they might just win. Do I want to see the Deftones win a Grammy? Hell, yes, I do. But, you know, would it be a shame for Turnstile to lose? Definitely. But I guess either die a hero, you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Anyway, it's gonna be a mess. I'm gonna be watching. It's always fun. We hate the Grammys until the band that you love wins one, and then you feel like you're validated. I don't understand it, but that's part of the fun of being a music fan. That's all I got to say. Rock and roll. A Jake.
Zeth Lundy
All right. I love this. It's thoughtful. 916. Thank you so much. And I love, I love how you framed the Deftones. The Deftones are to turn style what Jethro Tull was to Metallica. You didn't say it quite that way, but that's essentially what you're saying. And it makes. It makes a lot of sense. And yeah, if the Deftones win, I'm going to be upset because, yeah, I love your whole take here. And to your point, we do hate the Grammys until a band that we love knobs won. So I will be upset if the Deftones win and Turnstile loses. And conversely, I'll be excited if Turnstile wins. There you got me. There it is. I don't hate the Grammys, I guess. All right, let's hear from the 508.
Jake Brennan
Hey, Jake, it's Mike from the 508. And so I was thinking about, you know, the previous question of the best female artist to cover. You know, I noticed that in the last after party with all the talk about the first generation punk bands and, you know, and the throwback episode to MC5, we forgot a humongous clearing out, which is, why is there no episode on Patti Smith?
Zeth Lundy
It just.
Jake Brennan
It's like, duh. But anyway, other than that, a few other suggestions I had. Maybe Cher, Beyonce, Carole King, maybe an episode on the Fugees, because now apparently two out of three members have gone to jail. So, anyway, rock and roll. Bye.
Zeth Lundy
508. Great call. Great call. You know, I have. I think I have all of the Patti Smith books, like the ones that have been released recently, that started with, I think Just Kids was the first one about her relationship with Robert Mapplethorpe. And I purposefully. And then. And so I bought that in that. I don't know if I bought it. My sister got it for me, but I got it early on and I purposefully did not read it because I was like, I'm eventually going to get into researching her and I'll read it then. And. And from that point, that book came out in like, I don't know, 20, 15, 16, 17, something like that. From that point on, everybody. Not everybody, but I've. I've just gotten as. As gifts the other Patti Smith books, and I haven't read any of them for the same reason. So now's the time. Thank you for resurfing, resurfacing this. And 508, if you haven't seen the movie Mapplethorpe or any of you guys haven't seen it, I highly recommend it. It's great. Patti Smith. There's a small part for the Patti Smith character in there as well, which is really Good. The movie's fantastic. It's. I really loved it. I think it's. It's better than most music biopics that are released these days. It kind of has everything that I love about biopics. It doesn't shy away from the darkness in any way. Really, it's fantastic. All right, let's go to. Text from the402 says please do an episode on Kim Deal. I noticed we got an email on that same artist suggestion this week as well. I would love to dig into some pixies in Kim Deal research. I gotta figure out if there's. If there's a crime anywhere near this. I'm not sure there is. There might be. I'm not saying there's not, but that'll be my first. My first peek. And if there is, we'll find a way into telling the story on Kim Deal. 724text and hey, this isn't really anything related to music, but hope you and your kids were able to enjoy the winter storm. The fiance and I made snow angels and keep the spirit of youth alive. Get a little picture of a backyard covered in snow. Not. Not sure where the 724 is texting from. And got the nice little snow angels there. Very cool. Oh, looking through the text thread here, 724this is, I believe, from somewhere in the south, though I cannot nail down the location from this text thread. Anyways, appreciate it. You guys got buried in snow. I feel for you. I did not. I'm a bit further south these days and it is cold, though. Colder than it's ever been for me down here. But I will be back up in the northeast in a couple days. Gonna visit my family, gonna see my newborn nephew, and I'm gonna watch my New England Patriots in the super bowl with the fam up in New England as it should be done. And I'm hoping for snow when I'm up there. More snow. I know you don't want to hear it, but that's what I'm hoping for. 580 writes in hey, Bjork might be a really interesting story. Maybe too weird, but definitely punk. Five, eight zero, we got a Bjork episode in the archive and it's really good. Go check that out. You're not gonna be disappointed. 360-text in Jackie Fox was on Jeopardy. And she was amazing. 360-is- texting in regards to Jackie Fox from the Runaways episode we featured last week on Jeopardy. Something we share in common with Ms. Fox. The whole being on Jeopardy. Thing. Over on Instagram, Dr. Momo.974 writes in relation to our Lady Gaga episode. You watched Billy Corgan's interview too? Maybe he got inspired by you in the first place as well. Not sure about that. I didn't know what Dr. Momo974 was talking about, but apparently Billy Corgan has been going deep into the occult on his podcast and did not interview Lady Gaga. That's what I was hoping for. That'd be great. Billy Corgan interviewing Lady Gaga. Let's make that happen. We get this email from listener Knox Bronson on the subject of the Joan Jet cult. The Cult of Joan Jet Knox writes in Jake Knox Bronson here. Hi. Back in the mid-90s, I picked up a little black and white freebie magazine, 8 and a half by 11, printed on newsprint, probably at Amoeba Records or Rasputin's in Berkeley. It was called the Node and it was run by a couple of women. They seem to have a collective in the Haight Ashbury in San Francisco, and they did Macintosh oriented computer services. I can't remember exactly what it's been 30 years. But they did worship Joan Jett. Absolutely, no question. Very prominent in the magazine. I never saw another copy of the Node. I, of course, found it fascinating. Still do, kind of. Especially after your episode about it. But I can assure you without any doubt that there was some tiny cult to worship Joan Jett and the hate in San Francisco in the 1990s. And I don't know if you remember me, but I'm the one who told you the story about John Spacey and who really killed Nancy Sponge. And anyway, I just wanted to let you know it did exist and I sure wish I had that little magazine now. Yours, Knox Bronson of Oakland. Knox, thank you. My man Knox is writing in in reference to our mini episode on the cult that worships Joan Jett as a God. We released that mini episode last week in tandem with our new Runaways episode. Mini episodes are of course, available to all Access members. Fascinating story. One of many fascinating stories that we come upon in our research that doesn't really fit into the story we're trying to tell in the full episode. So those, as most of you know, become mini episodes. Just these little anim. Anecdotes that are just fascinating from music history. And they're short, they're sweet, they're about five minutes long, five to ten, something like that. They make for good, good dinner party stories. Good sitting around the grill out back in your. In your Tony Soprano apron as you're as you're moving the sausages from one side of the grill to the other and you know, you gotta kinda. You gotta keep Polly Walnuts occupied and you need a story to tell them. That's kind of what these stories are. They're short, but they are really kind of like holy. There was a cult that worshiped Joan Jett as a God. Like, that's. I don't know. I find that interesting. Maybe you will too. And if so, that's what those mini episodes are there for. Actually, that's what all disgrace is for. But the mini episodes, it just gives you this more concentrated punch version of it. You know what I mean? Like, you know you're gonna drink beers when you go out, but, you know, you might do a shot as well. The mini episodes are like the shot. The beers are like the full episode. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. All right, I'll be back after this. This is pro linebacker TJ Watt. And I'm back with YPB by Abercrombie for another activewear drop. 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All right, guys. You may have noticed if you're an Apple podcast listener, that Disgraceland is being featured this week on Apple Podcasts. Thanks to the fine folks over at Apple for that. We really appreciate it. If you go to the Apple podcast homepage, you will see Lady Gaga and Disgraceland right up there, right up front. That means we're gonna get a lot of new listeners. If you're a new listener, let me quickly tell you what's going on right now. You're listening to a bonus episode. Okay? Bonus episodes are released once a week, every Thursday. They're released after our new full episodes, which come out on Tuesdays. Okay. And then on at the end of the week, Fridays, we release essentially what are reruns. We call them rewinds. There are archive episodes. If you're new to Disgraceland, We've got over 260 full scripted episodes on artists, musicians, rock stars from every genre of music. We have so many of them. We have new listeners coming in all the time. We get a ton of emails asking us to create episodes on artists and musicians that people love, understandably. But what happens is, as you may have heard earlier, these requests come in, hey, can you do an episode on Bjork? And we're like, we have an episode on Bjork. Can you do an episode on Kendrick Lamar? We have an episode on Kendrick Lamar. So at the end of the week, on Fridays, right after this bonus episode, that's where we release our reruns, our rewind episodes. So you get, at a minimum, every week, three episodes of Disgraceland, two of which are totally new. Our new scripted episode, and then our bonus after party episode, which is what you're listening to right now. And then you get the rewind stuff as well. And oftentimes there are two part episodes, so you get even more. It's kind of a whole week of programming. Don't ask me how we got here, but this is where we landed. Seven years into doing this show, and I'm pretty damn happy about it. 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I'm in the middle of this big studio reorganization that has also sort of kicked off this reorganization of my storage space in my garage. So I've uncovered a bunch of Disgraceland merch that, frankly, I didn't even know I had posters, all kinds of I've got tote bags all some cool stuff. So leave a review. We appreciate it helps grow the show like I said. And if I read the review here in the podcast and you hear your name, get in touch with me 617-906-6638 voicemail and text and I will coordinate getting you some merchandise. Those who have gotten in touch over the last few weeks, I send out the merch at the end of the month, so I'll be sending them out this Friday or maybe Monday. So I might be a little late in getting it. But you're gonna get your stuff shortly. Appreciate you guys, just as I appreciate this review from Theorem 7 Action, Booze, Drugs, Love, Movies, Music Icons each podcast is meticulously researched and told in a fast paced, gripping cadence by master storyteller Jake Brennan. If you like music, heroes, fame and the true stories of icons behaving badly, then you have found sanctuary here in the halls of Rocka Rolla Valhalla. Tomorrow will come, but today is for Disgraceland. We ride Jonathan from the six one zero Jonathan, get in touch. Appreciate you. I will get you some merch. Mags Thurston writes on Spotify the most plausible conspiracy theory I've heard about Lady Gaga is that her Persona was preconceived and was granted to whatever singer was willing to play ball with the label that created her. Mags Thurston get in touch. Appreciate the insight. We'll get you some merch. All right guys, I gotta just. I gotta switch gears here for just a moment. I'm not gonna gloat. I'm not going to boast. I'm just gonna breathe a sigh of relief. You know why? Because the New England Patriots are back, baby. They are back. And yes, that has nothing to do with music or true crime. But I. I am just authentically an unashamed sports fan. Especially when it comes to New England Patriots and the Boston Red Sox. And I, you know those years, those past few years of not being in the playoffs. Mac Jones and Gerard Mayo and fucking all the Just as a long suffering New England Patriots fan who has been been ousted from the postseason for what, five years? Four years? I don't know how you other fans of sports teams do it. I literally don't. I don't. All I'll say is I'm very excited. And tip of the cap to my friends in Seattle. Shea Simpson. What's up brother? Happy for you guys, but this is not going to end well for you. I promise you that anyhow, had to say it. Had to say it. Okay, as promised, Zeth Lundy and I discussing Kanye west and David Bowie and the conspiracy theories that surround the two. Their connection, what David Bowie predicted about Kanye west before he died. Pretty fascinating stuff. We're getting into it in the all access section of this after party coming up in a bit. And if you want to hear that, like I said, go to Disgracelandpod.com sign up to become an all Access member, unlock this exclusive content and more, and ad free listening. Not going to give you the whole spiel again, but you can get in on this for as little as a buck. Five bucks gets you all. Gets you most of what we got going on and 10 bucks gets you everything. Plus the video podcast this film should be played loud. All right, guys, we are back. We mentioned Bjork and David Bowie on this episode. We got archive episodes on both of these subjects. Matt, as always, will have episode notes, so you can clearly find them in the show notes section of this afterparty. All right, let's recap, shall we? Number one, this week, our Lady Gaga episodes, parts one and two are both available for you to check out right now. Coming up right after this after party, we've got a rewind episode on Kendrick Lamar. Next week, part two of our Jane's Addiction story. Our new episode on Jane's Addiction will hit. I didn't mention Hollywood Land. That's. That's number four here. Zest Lundy gives you all the Hollywood and true crime vibes in Hollywoodland three times a week. Head over to Hollywoodland and subscribe. Number five, this film should be played loud. Our video podcast with our new episode on Trainspotting that's available for you to check out right now over on Patreon. So get on over there and hear a pretty damn good conversation on the incredible music in what is most definitely an incredible movie. A movie that treats music in a very unique way and did a lot for classic rock, Brit pop dance music. Really impacted culture. Trainspotting is fantastic as a film, but it's also the soundtrack cannot be beat, so this film should be played loud. Available for you to watch on Patreon right now. Get over there and sign up. You can also Sign up at Disgracelandpod.com 617-906-6638. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history. So keep calling, keep texting with your answers to this week's question of the week or with whatever else you want to talk about. Number seven, don't forget discos. This isn't just content, it's a community. A community of the obsessed. No one cares about books, records in the crime and grime. It ties them all together like you do and well, that's a disgrace. All right. Back on October 4, 2008, Lady Gaga's bestie Lena Morgana took a dive off of the roof of the Staten Island Hotel and unknowingly kicked off one hell of a conspiracy theory. At the same time, this is what America was listening to on that day. According to the Billboard charts. Number 1 Live your life TI featuring Rihanna last week 80 Peak position 1 Weeks on chart 2 Number 2 Whatever you like TI last week 1 Peak position 1 Weeks on chart 9 Number 3 so what? Pink last week 2 Peak position 1 Weeks on chart 7 Number 4 Disturbing Rihanna last Peak position 4 Peak position 1 Weeks on chart 6 Numbers Number 5 Let it rock Kevin Rudolph featuring Lil Wayne. Quit talking and start mixing.
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Date: January 29, 2026
Host: Zeth Lundy (on behalf of Double Elvis Productions)
This bonus "Afterparty" episode of DISGRACELAND dives into the wild world of music conspiracies and public apologies. The focus is split between legendary pop culture oddities—like conspiracy theories surrounding Lady Gaga and Kanye West—and a real-time reaction to Kanye West's (aka Ye) public apology for his recent history of erratic, harmful behavior. The episode pivots between listener engagement (via voicemails/texts) and the show's trademark irreverent approach to the stranger side of music history.
Quote:
"[T]he Gaga conspiracy theories are compelling compared to, say, the conspiracy theories about Kanye West. The theory that Kanye is a clone... the theory that Kanye is Taylor Swift's protector, that Kanye is David Bowie's starman. This theory... is bat shit crazy..."
— Zeth Lundy (03:25)
(Begins ~04:15)
Background:
Kanye West purchased a full-page ad in The Wall Street Journal to publicly address his actions, placing blame in part on his long-undiagnosed bipolar disorder and a traumatic brain injury.
Key Points from Ye's Letter:
Quote:
"I regret and am deeply mortified by my actions in that state and am committed to accountability, treatment and meaningful change. It does not excuse what I did. Though I am not a Nazi or an anti-Semite, I love Jewish people."
— Kanye West’s letter, read by Zeth Lundy (05:45–07:20)
Quote:
"I think Kanye west is one of the greatest musical artists from pop music that we've ever had... And I think what, what has happened to him is, to use a word, intentionally disgraceful."
— Zeth Lundy (09:32)
(Begins ~19:32)
Listener Voicemails: Feature passionate feedback on topics like the Grammys and suggestions for future DISGRACELAND subjects (Patti Smith, Cher, Beyoncé, Carole King, the Fugees).
Rapid-Fire Suggestions & Shout-outs:
Quote:
"I can assure you without any doubt that there was some tiny cult to worship Joan Jett and the Haight in San Francisco in the 1990s."
— Listener Knox Bronson (29:04)
(Begins ~31:49)
Quote:
"As promised, Zeth Lundy and I discussing Kanye west and David Bowie and the conspiracy theories that surround the two. Their connection, what David Bowie predicted about Kanye west before he died. Pretty fascinating stuff."
— Zeth Lundy (36:58)
This afterparty episode exemplifies why DISGRACELAND has built a cult following: it’s equal parts wild stories, real-time cultural processing, and an ongoing, two-way conversation with a community of obsessive music fans. Whether dissecting the legitimacy of Kanye West’s grand apology or exploring bizarre pop culture myths, the show brings humor, empathy, and deep music nerd knowledge to the darkest, strangest corners of the music world.
For more conversations like this, check out the DISGRACELAND archive at disgracelandpod.com.