Jake Brennan (18:21)

Hey, Jake, what's up? This is Miguel of Tampa. You're talking about bands that are people from bands that went from one band to another and had a better or at least impactful career with them both. And one of the ones that I first think of is Tim Armstrong and Matt Freeman from Operation Ivy going on to form Rampant. And like I said, I'm not saying better, but impactful still. So, yeah, that's all I got. All right, Jake. Later.

Co-host (18:53)

Miguel. You are so right on, man. I can't believe I blew that one. I loved Operation Ivy growing up. Had that cassette sound system gonna. What's it say, Scientists? One thing that I can't remember, but Tim Armstrong goes on to make Rancid after Operation Ivy. Just incredible. All right, let's hear from Travis in the nine two zero.

Jake Brennan (19:18)

Hey, Jake. This is Travis from Cape Coral, Florida. Awesome episode of Chris Cornell Sound Garden. So for your question, I gotta say, I am a huge, huge fan of Slash. I might get a little bit of hate for this, but. And now, Appetite for Destruction. Use your illusion. One, two of the best rock albums ever, in my opinion. However, Slash has done more on the collaboration end and the solo end than he did with Guns N Roses. And he just put out some phenomenal, phenomenal Stuff since he left Guns N Roses again. Might get a little heat for that, but that's. I'm sticking to it. Huge fan of Slash. Love your show. Keep up the great work.

Co-host (20:04)

Rocka Rolla Love this take. I can't. I can't totally go there with you on it, though, because nothing Slash did after Guns N Roses was as culturally impactful as Guns N Roses. Maybe Velvet Revolver, I guess, comes the closest. And I understand. I know his solo stuff is really good. I know people love it. People freak out about it. So I see where you're coming from. You know, it's just tough, though. It's tough to go all the way there with you because of. Like I said, Guns N Roses were just. I mean, you know, they were. They were just incredibly important culturally in the. In the 90s. They were just the biggest band, biggest rock band around until Nirvana came. And, you know, one thing it just reminded me of, though, like, we're talking about. We got this Van Halen episode coming up. We're talking about great guitarist Slash. I don't feel like gets enough heat as the great guitarist in the conversation with the greats. And maybe, maybe some guitar players out there have good reason for not thinking so. But I think Slash's style is pretty signature. I think he's a beast of a guitar player. I think he could play different styles if he cared to. And Travis, you probably know better than most because you're up on his solo stuff. He's one of those guys. Is he Top four, Mount Rushmore? I don't know. Call me back. Let me know what you think. All right. Travis. 617-906-6638. Voicemail and text. 530-ZACH from SAC. Zach from SAC. I'm guessing that's Sacramento. Zach's writing in as well about Tim Armstrong going on to be an operation Navi. I really left this one just. I left this one hanging out there. All right. 302 writes in in relation to her Winona Ryder episode. Hey, definitely Drew Barrymore and Winona Ryder over Heather Graham. Winona and Drew have definitely outlasted Heather. Where is Heather now? Where'd she go? Did you know that she dated Adam Ant for a while? Heather Graham. Heather Graham dated Adam Ant. That can't be true. Come on. Someone said I should do an Adam Ant episode of Disgraceland. Should I? 617-906-6638. Let me know. All right. Doug writes in from the 513. Jake. Doug from the 513. STP is great. Not a poser not contrived. He died from heroin. What's more, grunge? On that note, maybe Pearl Jam is a contrived band. I don't agree, but I love this logic. It's dark, but I love it. 513 goes on to write, and Geese. What? Do you hear that? I don't. I can tell this dude Doug is being very, very charitable to me right now. He's holding back. He wants to kill me for liking Geese, and he's being very polite. Doug, I appreciate you. He says, and geese. What? Do you hear that? I don' they opened for GVF last year, and they were the worst band I have ever heard. Maybe they suck live and I need to give them a second chance. Maybe I need to start questioning your usually impeccable taste. Okay, first of all, they could have sucked live. I don't doubt that. Some bands have bad nights. Some bands, it takes them a long, long, long time to become a good live band. Now, I will tell you, I went on YouTube prior to reading this. A couple weeks ago, I was in a geese hole, and I saw a lot of bad live geese. Okay, a lot of bad. Like, embarrassingly bad. However, there is some great live geese as well, and it's clearly just a thing of them taking time to get their live together. There's a Rolling Stone studio, like, live in studio thing that geese did, where they're just. They're hitting on every level. Fantastic. Check that out. Maybe that'll change your mind. What I'm hearing that you don't is the irreverence, the weirdness, the youth. It's all fresh and exciting to me, and it is the perfect meld of being steeped in rock and roll tradition, but not sounding like anything that I've heard before. So there you go. I think I just salvaged my quote unquote, usually impeccable taste, Doug. I hope so, anyways. Oh, and what I'm hearing that you're not, I think, is 3D country, the 2023 full length. Check that out, Doug, and listen to it from start to finish, and let me know what you think. All right, guys, real quick. Before we move on to the next part of this after party, I want to. I want to let you know, this thing we just did. We had our representatives who work for us. They did a data analysis of our audience of you guys, and they largely went based on what they could learn from our social media following. And what they came back with, I feel like, was kind of accurate. Not as accurate as I would like it to be. But basically what they're saying is you guys are mostly between the ages of 25 and 55. You skew slightly more female than male. More of you are college educated than not. You make slightly more money than most Americans do, and whatever. That stuff is less interesting to me than the following. You are into it so they can gauge what you're into for music and what you're into, what kind of celebrities you follow, what your general interests are. And so you guys are more than any other music, you're into alternative slash rock. Okay? And I guess that's just defined as however social media defines it, celebrities that you're really into. Carrie Brownstein from Portlandia, Ryan Adams was another one. The author, Brad Meltzer, who I've never read before, so I found that to be interesting. You're heavily into tattoos, you like beer, and generally speaking, you're into Americana. So I thought, okay, maybe, sure, yeah, I get it. I see where they're coming from. But I talk to you guys every week. I hear from you here on voicemail and text. And I don't think this is totally accurate. If I had a guess, I would say that you are slightly more male than female. I think they nailed the age, income, all that stuff. Stuff. Top cities, however they mentioned, I should mention this, are New York City, Los Angeles, Boston, Austin, in that order. But I think that's just reflective of how big those cities are compared to others. I know you guys are all over the place. I hear it. I mean, look, I was just texting with some dude from Oklahoma, another from Cape Coral, Florida. I know you're all over the place, but I'm more interested in the music side of things, the television and film side of things, what you're into. I want to know what your interests are. If you could be so kind. I don't want to do a survey or anything like that, but just hit me up 617-906-6638 and tell me about yourselves. Tell me what you're into for music and be general. You don't have to be super specific about it. You can be general about it. You know, are you more into alternative than you are into classic rock? Are you more into punk than you are into alternative? Are you more. Whatever it is, there's no right or wrong answer. I think they're accurate. I think you guys are on the sort of Gen X alternative slash classic rock with a heavy interest in punk. I think that's generally speaking who you guys are. I think you pride yourself there's no way to tell this, but I think you pride yourself on your knowledge of music history and culture and celebrity history and culture. And I think you pride yourself on knowing a little bit more than the average bear when it comes to these topics. And you like sharing these topics with other people. Which tells me that you're not only curious, you're also smart, which, you know, whether you're college educated or not, that doesn't matter. You're curious and smart. I know that about you, and no demographic testing machine is going to tell me otherwise. Not that it is, but again, I want to know. I guess the question is this. What is your favorite style of music? Who are your favorite artists? What are your favorite movies? Who are your favorite actors and actresses? And generally speaking, what are you into? Car shows, IPAs, tattoos, that sort of thing? What's the big kind of general thing that you guys are into? Flea marketing? Antiquing? I don't think it's those things, but I'm throwing out some other examples. Hit me back and let me know. I'd really, really appreciate it. 617-90-6666 because the more I can nail this down, the more I can figure out what to give you guys for content. And we're trying to we're trying to figure out not only our programming slate for the rest of this year and next year. Right now I'm also which is easier to do than than this other thing I'm about to talk. Well, I'm also trying to figure out I've got some opportunities to do some big projects. I'm trying to figure out what I want to do and how I want to do it in the next few years. And having a better idea of who you guys are will help me make those decisions and help the rest of us here at Double Elvis as well. Plus, it's just another way to get to know you guys, and that's always fun. All right, so 617-906-6638 voicemail and text email discretesandpodmail.com you want to do it that way and let me know what your favorite style of music is, who your favorite musicians are, what types of movies and actors and actresses you love. And generally speaking, what are you guys into? Now? I know you're into Robin Williams because we got into our Easter egg question last week and I got so many responses from you guys. I'm going to play a voicemail response here with the answer because it came in quick, it came in fast. The question was, what did Robin Williams in our Hollywoodland episode, the Easter egg was what did Robin Williams get from the prostitute when he turned 21? And the answer comes from the 573.

Jake Brennan (30:10)

Hello, to all of the good people at Disgraceland. I was calling in reference to your Easter egg from the Robin Williams episode that just had come out on Hollywoodland. I do believe that the prostitute gave Robin Williams a refund. A refund for. For his services. Yes, that is of the. That's the correct answer. Thanks for everything, you guys. Love the show.

Co-host (30:35)

Yes. 573, you are correct. A refund is the answer. Robin Williams. That's what Robin Williams got from the prostitute when he turned 21. All right, so for the Easter egg this week, guys, it's the Tim Allen episode of Hollywoodland. The question is, what football game did Tim Allen not go to? What football game did Tim Allen not go to? Head over to Hollywoodland. Dive into that Tim Allen episode, find the answer. Hit me at 617-90-66638. Leave me a voicemail, send me a text with your answer, or be the first to post on Instagram. We pose this question again, the Easter egg answer is in the Tim Allen episode of Hollywoodland. What football game did Tim Allen not go to? And if you have not heard this Tim Allen episode, you're going to want to. It is not, I promise you, it is not the Tim Allen that you think you know. Again, the Easter egg question. What football game did Tim Allen not? Which brings us nicely into our sports rant for this week. I'm a big baseball fan. You guys know this. I'm a big, big Red Sox fan. I'm more into the season this year than I've been in the past few seasons. I think it's partially because of my kids. But anyways, we get the MLB app. That's where we watch our games. And I gotta say, the MLB app, if you guys, anyone has it, get in touch, let me know your experiences. But my experience is that the MLB app is a piece of steaming hot garbage. It barely works when I want it to work. It didn't work on opening day. How does that. I mean, come on, Opening day. I'm watching the game this weekend and I'm sitting there and the thing just. It's constantly hung up. It's constantly loading and loading and loading and loading and I cannot get. I'm like, what the hell? I restarted my wifi. I did the. I closed the app. I logged in, I logged out. It's still loading and loading and loading and Loading. Finally I'm like, screw this. I put the game, the audio on, on the app on my phone, not as opposed to the video on the app on my television. I tune in and Jaren Durant steals home. Steals home. And I missed it. I missed it. I missed it. You know how often home plate is stolen? You know, I mean, we've been waiting for Jaren. I know he did it once, but it was a double steal. It doesn't count. This is a straight up guys pitching the ball to home plate and Jaren Durant takes off, beats the throw and scores. And I missed it because the fricking MLB app, man. Come on, there's gotta be a better way. Honestly, I think I should just go straight audio. I think I should just, I should listen to the radio broadcast every night and I should, I should score the game. I should get one of those baseball scoring pads. I should sit in my chair, my old man chair, pour a glass of bourbon and that should be it. I should just give up on the video component. We have all this new digital media and ways to deliver it, and yet is it. Are we a. Are we better off? I don't know. Anyways, that's my sports rant. I want you guys to feel my pain. That's why I'm giving you this. Okay? I'll be back in a flash. The Hollywood Man Minute.

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And right now there are over 40 episodes waiting for you to binge Episodes on Charlie Sheen, David Lynch, Robin Williams, Jenny Trejo, John Waters, Steve McQueen, Marilyn Monroe, Drew Barrymore, Jane Fonda, and most recently, the very talented and funny Tim Allen. Here's a clip. Only a month earlier, Michigan state legislators had passed a new law that made possession with intent to distribute over 650 grams of cocaine or heroin punishable by a mandatory life sentence, no possibility of parole. The only other crime in the state with an equally harsh penalty was murder. It was the toughest drug law in the United States. 650 grams, just under a pound and a half. That was the exact amount that Tim had in the Adidas gym bag that he brought to the setup with the undercover cops at the Kalamazoo County Airport. And now, sitting on a cold metal bench against the wall of a holding cell in jail, surrounded by men who were far more grizzly and hardened than he could ever be in his wildest dreams, Tim worried he'd get busted again. This time it would be his head, his face, and Jesus Christ. Maybe even worse. He'd heard the stories about the inside what happens when men do what they have to do simply to survive. Half of the dudes here were certifiable. Just say one wrong thing, one wrong word, and you were done. All right, guys, make sure you are subscribed to Hollywoodland on Apple, Podcast, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. Next week is our episode on Will Smith. You're not going to want to miss that. You can email me disgraceandpod Gmail.com on any topic you like. This one comes from. Justin Moore just says, hey, letter from a fan. Jake, I wanted to reach out and thank you for the wonderful podcast from Disgraceland in Hollywoodland. You have a great voice to listen to, great production value on your shows. My favorite is when you refer to songs or old sayings as a slice of cheese. I now try to work that lingo into my conversations for fun. Thanks for making my work day less shitty. Keep up the Good work. Cheers. JustinJaymo JMOJustin thank you so much for the email. Appreciate you. You gotta watch out for those slices of cheese. They'll come back on you. Phil R. Writes in Ween Message sup? Please consider doing some research on Ween. I hated them bad when I discovered them on Beavis and Butthead at age 12, but after I was reintroduced to them following the Mollus tour, I fell in love. I really regret skipping this concert because they broke up for a few years and now I'm the biggest fan. They make excellent music. I think Mickey's probably one of the best guitarists of all time. Aaron is no such either. They ended their tour indefinitely now and will probably stay that way and I know there are some stories. I just don't know where to look. Plus, this would be a great episode in your style. I love Ween. I love love love them and I would love to do an episode on them. I have to find some sort of crime angle, but too bad they couldn't just borrow some of Weezer shit because I think there's a Weezer episode coming guys. Ween. Weezer. Anyhow, at some point. Thanks Phil. Disgraceandpodmail.com you guys want to get in touch? You guys want to leave a review for us? We would appreciate it. You can head over to Apple Podcasts, you can head over to Spotify, you can leave a review for Disgrace. End there. Helps the show with discovery. Each week I read a couple of the reviews here and then I go ahead and if you guys get in touch, I'll send you some merch. It's that easy. Rumspringer2000 on Spotify writes, a Chester Bennington episode would be cool. We share a birthday. I played your Bourdain episode to someone to explain why I am the way I am. Rumspringer writes that in relation to our Chris Cornell episode. I understand the connection between Chris Cornell, sorry, my dog's freaking out and Chester Bennington. And we are doing a Chester Bennington episode, Rum Springer 2000 so you have nothing to fear. Mile High Moe over on Apple podcast writes, five stars. Jake and the double Elvis crew form like Voltron and he just happens to be the head Jake. Jake's storytelling skills are second to none. It's a dying skill and he's running with the embers. The music is tremendous. You don't even notice it's unlicensed. It's so good. It definitely sets a vibe. And the writers, they pull out unheard stories about artists. I thought I knew front to back. This podcast still amazes me after many years of listening. I got both my kids hooked on it. My son and I are Patreon members. All I can say is thank you, Team Double Elvis. Don't stop Mile High Mo. Great review. Thank you. We appreciate it. Thanks for spreading the disco gospel of Disgraceland. This episode is nearing its end, but the after party is going to continue for all of you All Access members. Guys, All Access, it doesn't take a lot. It's five bucks a month and we really appreciate it. And what you guys get is ad free listening. You get an extra full exclusive episode of Disgraceland every month and you get a little bit more of the afterparty, which we're going to deliver to you right now. Okay. Just go to Disgracelandpod.com membership. All right, guys, we are back. Listen, this week I don't know what happened, but we didn't talk that much about artists who we've covered previously in Disgraceland here in this episode. That's rare. It usually just comes up organically. So I'm going to lay on you some of my faves here that we don't mention enough. Okay. And then Matt's gonna have the links and the episode information in the show notes so you can check them out. We did a two parter on Willie Nelson that I feel like we don't talk about enough. That's available for you. I know there's a lot of Willie Nelson fans out there. We also did a two parter on Lou Reed, plus an additional full episode on the Velvet Underground. Those are available for you as well. Skip James, one of the most incredible blues musicians of all time. If you like blues. If you're interested in learning more about the blues, check out the Skip James episod has One of the most painful, violent, excruciating scenes we've ever depicted in any of our episodes is in the Skip James episode. It's a real life thing that happened to him. It's something that, for whatever reason, does not get mentioned in the history of music. I don't understand why not, but it should. It's fucking crazy. And that is available for you in the Skip James episode. Someone brought up Guns N Roses on the text of voicemail. We have 2 guns n roses episodes as well. Those episodes were very hard to write. You know why? I'm gonna tell you why. It's not easy for us to depict little inside disgrace in here. It's not easy for us to depict or to dramatize live shows. And one of these Guns n Roses episodes nearly drove me nuts trying to put this together. But I think we came out on the other side. Okay. I think you're gonna dig those episodes. Matt's gonna have all those episodes available for you in the show notes. You can find them in our archives archive of a hundred and, I don't know, gosh, 100. And where are we at? 230 plus episodes at this point? It's a big archive. Get into it, especially your new listeners. All right, let's recap, shall we? Number one, my other podcast, Hollywoodland, is alive and kicking over in the Hollywoodland feed. So make sure you're subscribed and following Hollywoodland on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. And get ready for our upcoming Hollywoodland episode on Phil Hartman, but only after you get caught up on our recent episode on Tim Allen. Number two, Right now in your Disgraceland feed. Our episode on Winona Rider. Number three, coming tomorrow, our Rewind episode on the Notorious B.I.G. that's a two parter. Next week, another two parter in our new episode slot on Van Halen. So make sure you subscribe to Disgraceland Number four Merch winners. Get in touch. You know who you are. Number five, Remember, no one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do. And, well, that's a disgrace. All right, in honor of this week's subject, Winona Ryder, this is me reading you the Billboard charts from the day Reality Bites hit theaters on February 8, 1994. Number one, the Power of Love, Celine Dion. Last week one peak position one weeks on chart 13. Number two, all for Love, Bryan Adams, Rod Stewart and Sting. Last week two peak position one weeks on chart 13. Number three, the sign Ace of Base. Last week five peak position three weeks on chart eight. Number four, breathe again, Tony Braxton. Blasphemy three position three weeks on chart number five, what a Man, Salt n Pepa featuring En Vogue. Last week six peak position five weeks on chart five. And number six, Hero.

Jake Brennan (44:15)

Quit talking and start mixing.

Co-host (44:18)

Cut it.