Bonus Episode: Grammy Snubs, Righting the NWA Wrong, Wild Award Show Buggery, and More

Summary

DISGRACELAND: Bonus Episode – Grammy Snubs, Righting the NWA Wrong, Wild Award Show Buggery, and More

Podcast: DISGRACELAND
Host: Jake Brennan (Double Elvis Productions)
Episode Date: January 22, 2026

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Episode Overview

This afterparty bonus episode of DISGRACELAND dives into the chaotic history of Grammy snubs, infamous award show screw-ups, and the legends who were overlooked—or “fixed” later by the Recording Academy. Host Jake Brennan weaves personal anecdotes, listener calls, and music history into an irreverent, fast-moving discussion perfect for the “musically obsessed” who crave the stories that get left out of official history. Listener interaction and recommendations pepper the show, fuelled by DISGRACELAND’s familiar mix of dark humor, real talk, and offbeat reverence.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Grammy Snubs: The Runaways, NWA, Metallica, and More

[03:38 – 09:00]

• Joan Jett and The Runaways' Grammy history:

  • Joan Jett was nominated at the 1989 Grammys but didn’t win (lost to U2).
  • The Runaways as a group were never nominated; they were “too fringe.”
  • Lita Ford (also from The Runaways) was twice nominated, but lost both times.

• Grammy’s trend of snubbing key acts:

  • NWA’s monumental Straight Outta Compton never received a nomination in 1989, despite its impact and commercial success.
  • 1989 was also the first year for Best Rap Performance, yet NWA was shut out while more sanitized acts dominated nominations.
  • Jake:

    “By what technical measurement is the right hand rhythm guitar playing of Martin Barre from Jethro Tull better than James Hetfield’s from Metallica? … It’s been 39 years, guys, and I’m still not going to let this one go.” (07:17)

• Other all-time Grammy “misses”:

  • The Grateful Dead, Bob Marley, Jimi Hendrix, Diana Ross, The Who—all overlooked in their prime and only recognized later with “Lifetime Achievement” awards.
  • “The Lifetime Achievement award at the Grammys is kind of like the ‘oh shit, we fucked up and we’re making it right’ award. I kind of like it—it’s better than nothing.” (09:30)

• 2026 Lifetime Achievement Award predictions:

  • Nominees: Carlos Santana, Chaka Khan, Cher, Fela Kuti, Paul Simon, Whitney Houston.
  • Jake bets on Fela Kuti finally getting recognized.

2. Wildest Grammy and Award Show Moments

[10:30 – 11:50]

• Milli Vanilli Saga:

  • Fab Morvan—one of Milli Vanilli’s infamous “singers”—now (ironically) nominated for Best Audiobook Narration and Storytelling in 2026.
  • “So please god let the Grammys give the award to the Milli Vanilli guy—it is right and just. I don’t know why, it just is.” (11:15)

• Tease for All Access Segment:

  • Promises talk of wildest scandals in award show history: Soybomb and Dylan, Jarvis Cocker and Michael Jackson, Courtney and Axl, David Niven and the naked guy.

3. Community Mailbag: Listener Calls, Emails, and Recommendations

[14:10 – 23:25]

• Female Artists for Future Episodes:

  • Listener Kara (Austin, TX) suggests Wendy O. Williams & The Plasmatics:

    “That sound was iconic, is iconic, and influenced a generation… Absolutely insane Wendy story.” (14:11)

  • Jake responds enthusiastically; also teases a Mia Zapata episode in the works.
  • Multiple listeners request The Slits, Emmylou Harris, and Dolores O’Riordan (The Cranberries).

• Punk Rock Deep Dives:

  • Listener Todd shouts out Johnny Thunders and suggests Jeffrey Lee Pierce of The Gun Club.
  • Discussion on how punk influence counterbalances topics like Lady Gaga or NWA.

• Listener Jackie (Patreon) on The Slits:

  • Points out lack of “crime” in their story other than misogyny in the punk scene.

• Behind-the-scenes Trivia:

  • Matt Bowden (Double Elvis producer) reveals Jackie Fox from The Runaways was a three-time Jeopardy! champion and designed a ’70s rock board game.
  • Runaways biopic with Kristen Stewart and Dakota Fanning gets a shoutout (Jake admits being “repelled” but plans to watch).
  • Nita Strauss and Alice Cooper get kudos for keeping rock alive.

4. Notable Listener Stories

[23:52 – 28:40]

• Email from John (“Johnny Nuts”) in Morrison, CO:
  • Shares that he’s a Bronx-raised punk with mafia ties via his father (“not a made man, but a ranking associate”).
  • Reminisces about being gifted the New York Dolls album because “there’s a couple of freaks on it and it says New York.”
  • Suggests episodes about Jerry Nolan (New York Dolls) and Warren Zevon, whose father had gangster ties in LA.

5. DISGRACELAND Announcements and What’s Next

[28:40 – 36:34]

• Upcoming Episodes:

  • The Runaways episode available now.
  • NWA Rewind episodes post-show.
  • Next big two-parter: Lady Gaga, focusing on wild conspiracy theories (German sex clubs! Bavarian Illuminati!).
  • “This Film Should Be Played Loud” video podcast—next up: Trainspotting.

• New Video and Patreon Tiers:

  • Details benefits for $1, $5, and $10/month members, with “Sound & Fury” ($10) unlocking all exclusive video content.

6. Community, Reviews, and Wrap-Up

[32:33 – 35:00]

• Patriots Football Tangent [32:33 – 33:53]:

  • Jake expresses disbelief at the team’s quick resurgence post-Brady:

    “My heart goes out for all of you with football franchises in your hometowns… Jets fans… Browns fans… I feel for you guys.” (33:01)

  • Ribbing and empathy for long-suffering NFL fans.

• Shoutouts to Reviewer “JT JT JT JT JT JT Junior”:

  • “If you miss that feeling from grade school when that one kid with the weird parents told you about Ozzy snorting a line of ants… this is the podcast for you.” (34:20)

• Spotify Review from Spencer Lau 95:

  • Praises Johnny Thunders episode, wonders where his guitars ended up.

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Memorable Quotes

On the Grammy's infamous choices:

“By what technical measurement is the right hand rhythm guitar playing of Martin Barre from Jethro Tull better than James Hetfield’s from Metallica? In what world is Jethro Tull’s Crest of a Knave better than Metallica’s …And Justice For All? …39 years, guys, and I’m still not going to let this one go.”
— Jake Brennan (07:17)

On Lifetime Achievement Awards:

“The Lifetime Achievement award at the Grammys is kind of like the ‘oh shit, we fucked up and we’re making it right’ award.”
— Jake Brennan (09:30)

On Milli Vanilli’s Grammy comeback:

“So please god let the Grammys give the award to the Milli Vanilli guy—it is right and just. I don’t know why, it just is.”
— Jake Brennan (11:15)

Listener Kara on The Plasmatics:

“That sound was iconic, is iconic, and influenced a generation… Absolutely insane Wendy story.”
— Kara, Austin TX (14:11)

Listener John on his punk mafia upbringing:

“There’s a couple of freaks on it and it says New York. Life changing.”
— John aka “Johnny Nuts,” on his dad gifting the New York Dolls album (23:52)

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Important Timestamps

• 03:38 – 09:00: Grammy snubs, egregious exclusions, and NWA’s oversight
• 10:30 – 11:50: Milli Vanilli story, wildest award show moments teaser
• 14:11 – 23:25: Mailbag—listener suggestions, punk histories, and DISGRACELAND community banter
• 23:52 – 28:40: Listener John’s mafia-punk story, episode suggestions
• 28:40 – 36:34: Show announcements, episode previews, Patreon content breakdown, football aside

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Tone & Style

• Irreverent, energetic, and conversational
• Blends music nerdery with streetwise dark humor
• Direct responses to listeners, breaking the “fourth wall” with the DISGRACELAND community

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Summary Flow

• The episode launches into a critical, playful examination of the Grammy’s most notorious historic flubs, especially those involving The Runaways, NWA, and Metallica. Jake calls out the system’s old guard mentality and the pattern of “fixing” mistakes with Lifetime Achievement awards.
• The discussion segues to infamous award show debacles (especially Milli Vanilli) before inviting listeners deeper with teases of scandal-rich All Access segments.
• Listener emails and voicemails carry much of the show’s heart, as community picks for future stories lead to punk, alternative, and outlaw legends. Audience participation is spotlighted and celebrated, with Jake riffing with listeners and adding behind-the-scenes tidbits.
• The episode wraps with show updates, calls to action for reviews and Patreon support, and closing notes on the upcoming NWA and Lady Gaga features.

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For New Listeners

This bonus episode is a masterclass in why DISGRACELAND connects with music lovers — fusing pop culture mythbusting, true crime storytelling, and open dialogue about the hidden corners of music history. If you want to hear the stories the industry would rather forget — with plenty of listener input and a wicked sense of humor — this episode is a great (and chaotic) entry point.

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Sign up at disgracelandpod.com/membership

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"Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn’t want told – the kind you’ll end up telling someone else." – Jake Brennan

Transcript

[Jake Brennan]

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Hey discos need a little more disgrace land in your life just a touch to get you through yeah me too this is the podcast that comes after the podcast welcome to disgraceland the afterparty welcome to the disgraceland bonus episode a little thing we like to call the after party this is the show after the show the party after the party the bridge to get you from one full episode of disgraceland to the other the backyard to dig into the dirt our mission to uncover the truth to confront the myth to reclaim the story on this bonus episode we're discussing some wild grammy snubs what's up natalika and talking run run run runaways hello joan jett lita ford in our exclusive section for all access members we dive into some of the more scandalous award shows past and we get into your emails comments dm's and as always a whole lot of rosie this is the podcast for the musically obsessed the outsiders the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried disgrace land is where i tell the stories they didn't want told the kind you'll end up telling someone else all right discos let's get into it joan jett of the runaways was nominated at the nineteen eighty nine grammy awards in the category of best rock performance by a duo or group with vocal for her song i hate myself for loving you she did not win that award u two song desire from the album rattle and hum took it home other artists nominated though were in excess little feet and midnight oil i mentioned this because joan jett was part of the group the runaways who we cover in this week's full episode of disgraceland and because the grammys are coming up now the runaways were never nominated for a grammy they were much too fringe lita ford another runaway however was nominated one more time actually than joan jett for best rock performance female and best single she lost both times the grammys are on my mind like i said because they're coming up in a couple weeks and i find the grammys most interesting when they mess up like jethro tull being chosen over metallica so i was kind of surprised to see that not one but two runaways were eventually nominated now in this week's rewind episode of disgraceland we feature nwa in nineteen eighty eight the compton group of mc's released the incredible album straight outta compton not surprisingly given how subversive and controversial the group was at the time the grammys did not touch straight outta compton or nwa despite how well the band in that record sold and despite how impactful that album was at the time straight outta compton went platinum and it hit the top forty despite being an independent album and that's an incredible accomplishment but that shouldn't matter the twelve thousand plus voting members a group of music professionals including performers songwriters producers and engineers are supposed to nominate and award winners based solely on artistic and technical merit by what technical measurement is the right hand rhythm guitar playing of martin behr from jethro tull better than james hetfield's from metallica in what world is jethro tull's album crest of a nave better than metallica's and justice for all it's been thirty nine years guys and i'm still not going to let this one go but back to nwa's straight out of compton sales aside you can't mess with the album's artistic or technical merit and making the snub even more egregious is the fact that in nineteen eighty nine that was the year that they added the best rap performance category now the nominees for that dj jazzy jeff and the fresh prince with parents just don't understand supersonic by jj fad wild wild west by tone loke going back to cali by ll cool j push it by saul and pepa now all of these songs or performances as they term them are capital g great especially jj fad supersonic dj jazzy jeff and the fresh prince one and i can accept that because parents just don't understand was everywhere the year that it was released but come on the grammys couldn't make tone lokes wild wild west just you know go hang out somewhere else and let straight out of compton be on the ballot i don't understand that i mean i guess i do i guess i do would never happen now but then nineteen eighty nine much different time nineteen eighty nine was a weird year for the grammys george michael's faith won album of the year beating out tracy chapman's self titled album bobby mcferrin's simple pleasures stings nothing like the sun and steve winwood's role with it pretty much lame city all around aside from the greek god of tight fitting blue jeans and his record faith lita ford did present an award that year though along with alice cooper for another new category best hard rock metal okay another new category in nineteen eighty nine best hard rock and metal and lita ford and alice cooper gave that award to like i said jethrotel not metallica have i mentioned yet how ridiculous it was that the grammys gave the award to jethro tell that year and not metallica again i'm not over it this of course wasn't the first or the last time that the grammys messed up during their entire long strange trippy run despite being arguably the greatest american rock and roll band ever the grateful dead were never nominated for a grammy even when their single touch of gray cracked the top ten on the billboard hot one hundred bob marley global superstar revolutionized music at the time no aw jimi hendrix arguably actually no there's no argument definitively the greatest guitar player to ever be involved with popular music no grammys for hendrix all these artists including the who and diana ross they were all eventually awarded something called the lifetime achievement grammy award after their quote unquote active careers in pop music had slowed down and the grammys did the same thing for nwa in twenty twenty four they gave them the lifetime achievement award the lifetime achievement award at the grammys is kind of like the oh shit we fucked up and we're making it right award i kind of like it it's better than nothing this year's lifetime achievement award nominees at the sixty eighth annual grammys are carlo santana chaka khan cher fela cootie paul simon and whitney houston carlos santana already has ten grammys in two thousand he won eight on the same night paul simon has sixteen grammys shaka khan has ten whitney houston has six cher has one fela cootie has zero so you can pretty much guarantee fela cootie is going to win this award in a couple of weeks again the lifetime achievement award kind of like hey we messed up we're gonna we're gonna fix it and again i like that what kind of award though are they gonna give for messing up that whole milli vanilli thing you know that time they gave the vocal duo the best new artist award in nineteen ninety only for it later to be revealed that milli vanilli didn't actually sing their own songs well that award was eventually stripped by the grammy recording academy's board of trustees so you know bad milli vanilli no award for you unless you wait long enough unless milli vanilli you wait until twenty twenty six because that's right ladies and gentlemen in a world where the most ridiculous and or ironic outcome is almost always guaranteed fab morvan if i'm pronouncing that correctly one of the air quotes singers from milli vanilli is nominated for a grammy this year for best audiobook narration and storytelling for his memoir you know it's the real story of milli vanilli and yes before you ask it's definitely his voice used in the audiobook so please god let the grammys give the award to the milli vanilli guy it is right and just i don't know why it just is now the milli vanilli story is one of the most shocking things to have ever happened at the grammys and it's kind of why i love award shows for the unexpected for the mess ups for the screw ups so on that note szeth and i are going to be discussing some of the wildest award show events that have ever happened from dust ups with soyboy and dylan to jarvis caulker and michael jackson to courtney and axel and david niven and the naked dude go to disgraceandpod dot com to sign up for disgraceland all access to unlock this content and more all right i really kind of wish i did a milli vanilli episode for grammy week maybe next year instead though this week we've got a two part story on another grammy nominee lady gaga and if you're a fan of german sex clubs and the bavarian illuminati not to mention dangerous hangs on the roof of the staten island hotel you are not going to want to miss this story these gaga episodes deal almost entirely with the wild conspiracy theories surrounding the global superstar and when you're listening be thinking about those theories and whether or not you think that there's any truth to them any evidence evidence that you think supports them evidence that you know i kind of well i put it all out there you'll hear lots of people believe this stuff and i'm not judging i mean i'm judging by the facts i'm not judging the people who believe what they believe anyways when you're listening i want to know do you find any truth in these theories and if so why hit me up at six one seven nine zero six six six three eight to discuss leave a voicemail or send me a text and you might hear your voice and or your texted answer on next week's afterparty before lady gaga though coming up in the rewind slot right after this after party is like i mentioned those two nwa episodes be sure to give those a spin you're gonna dig them and i'll be back right after this with you guys with your voicemails texts emails and more.

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[Listener/Caller]

Jake this is kara down in austin texas and you asked about suggestions for female episodes i'm gonna have to say it's plasmatics everybody talks about their influence on gwar and their stage show but that sound was iconic is iconic and influenced a generation of like metal hardcore punk all of it beautiful windy story insane absolutely insane one other thing i wanted to put you on if you haven't already heard about it jerry lang from poison ideas trilogy black heart fades blue i've read a lot of rock bios i have read a lot of junkie bios that is the most depraved shit i've ever heard in my life so check it out if you're interested but anyways keep up the good work hope to hear from you later all.

[Jake Brennan]

Right kara in the three hundred seven bringing that depraved energy from austin kara i don't know anything about jerry lane and poison idea i should so i'm very interested and happy you pointed this out can't wait to check out what did you say was the black heart black heart fades blue that's it's a great title and on the plasmatics yes you're not the first nor the last bunch of people this week actually have brought up wendy wendy williams plasmatics or and or wendy i'm not sure which probably a wendy episode going to the top of the list kara thank you not sure if you'd find this interesting perhaps you will judging by your taste here we've got a get mia zapata episode in the works i'm gonna record that this afternoon that's coming in a couple weeks so you got that to look forward to if you are a mia zapata fan a fan of nineties hard rock grunge or whatever you want to call it punk alternative that'll be coming soon all right let's check out this one from the two seven zero.

[Listener/Caller]

Hey double elvis two hundred and seventy todd hadn't called in a while always listen and you've made my week with the johnny thunders episode thank you so much you've done mark flanagan you've done johnny thunders maybe a jeffrey lee pierce in the future my life would be complete but johnny thunders you said it best his influence like people imitate him and they don't even know that they are i just ironically heard an interview last week with stephen piercey of rat he was on billy corgan's podcast and he was you know admitting that in the eighties you know they were trying to look like pirates well they were trying to look like johnny thunders so cool so influential i love the dolls as well but some of that johnny thunders solo stuff and as you said the so alone album had so many top notch legends on there with him other tragic figures too bill lynock marriott it just so many people love the episode i've been playing a lot of johnny thunders and the heartbreakers ever since i listened to it keep up the good work thank you two hundred seventy.

[Jake Brennan]

Thanks for the call appreciate you yes johnny was a huge huge huge influence still is to this day i feel like guns n roses should have been sending him royalty checks while he was alive love the idea for a future jeffrey lee pierce gun club episode we are digging deep into the punk rock influence here with gun club and the plasmatics and the gits which is of course a good counter to the lady gaga's and nwas of the world appreciate the suggestions guys always six one seven nine zero six six six three eight voicemail and text anthony texts in from the seven hundred and twenty four hey jake it's anthony i'm going to be a bit behind on podcast but listening to last week's thursday episode and asking for more female subjects i know i once suggested dolores o'rearden from the cranberries and you said it was a little too soon i'm not sure if enough time has passed i know her stories are more personal but she has that air rage incident and of course zombie inspired by the troubles and a bombing event just thought i'd put suggestion in again good health to you and yours and later days jake seven hundred and twenty four i love it yeah enough time has passed i think i think we can get into the cranberries i think we can get in more specifically to dolores o'rearden and her history you know i missed her at the studio once the studio i was working at i missed her by about five minutes i showed up and she was gone and everybody there was buzzing because she was just there and i thought man that would have been cool to meet dolores from the cranberries and then she was gone and it's sad but you know what i'm gonna steal myself and i can dig into the research and personally i'm i'm interested in in the troubles in irish history so this is this is in my wheelhouse thanks for reminding me seven hundred twenty four appreciate it two five zero writes in with another suggestion hey jake just listened to the runaways pod and heard the request for more female groups would love to hear a dive on the slits thank you two hundred and fifty i know very little about the slits very little so i'm down to learn and down to bring you guys what i find two five two writes in simply emmylou harris and this is a great idea because it opens up a new lane into graham parsons through emmy lou's point of view which i'm not familiar with i've of course read some quotes read some things she said about graham in my research of graham most of it positive emmy lou seems like a real class act i wonder what's out there for her history i wonder if she's written an autobiography anyway very intrigued emmy lou could make for a great subject i gotta write these down some great subjects this week great recommendations guys six one seven nine zero six six six three eight appreciate it all jackie over on patreon writes in the chat actually not in the chat she's commented on the post for our ad free episode of the runaways story jackie writes in hey having listened to this episode and still thinking about your punk question previously which was jumping in here this is not jackie speaking this is me this is the question from the question prompted from that johnny thunders episode was which first generation punk group was most influential jackie writes in i've been thinking about the slits a great punk band and i'd love you to cover this story jake but don't think that they have any crimes associated with them other than misogyny within the punk scene jackie we might be able to find something there we might be able to find some crime to associate with the story something that's related maybe it's just once removed we'll look into it appreciate the comment and the suggestion jackie this is interesting we're not we're not all that self referential here at double elvis but on that same thread matt bowden writes and of course those of you who know matt bowden works here at double elvis he's producing this show right now this episode i hadn't seen this comment until just now it says hey just wanted to point out another jeopardy slash disgraceland connection jackie fox bassist for the runaways was a three time jeopardy champion a few years back competing under her real name jackie fuchs matt goes on to say i think she was on some other game shows as well she also designed a well regarded board game based around nineteen seventies rock called rock hard nineteen seventy seven great to see that after everything she and the other runaways went through she was able to come out the other side matt amazing some somebody posted a comment on instagram about rock hard nineteen seventy seven the board game and i thought they were fucking with me this is amazing history love the jeopardy connection of course of those of you who don't know the jeopardy disgraceland connection that matt's referencing we were disgraceland was a clue on jeopardy a couple weeks ago which was pretty awesome if you wanna see that you can just go to our instagram page it's pinned at the top disgracelandpod what else are you guys talking about on patreon over in the chat susan writes just listen to the runaways episode there's a pretty good movie from twenty ten about the runaways with kristen stewart and dakota fanning titled the runaways all right susan listen if if you say so okay i have been repelled by this film for some reason i don't know why maybe it's because kristen stewart was coming sort of off that whole twilight thing at the time and i just i just couldn't see it but i'm gonna take your word for it and i'm gonna check it out i'm just gonna put it on maybe this afternoon i read a greta gerwig quote yesterday it said the best time to watch movies are ten am and four pm and i'm like yeah that's good if you don't have to work for a living but you know while i'm sort of you know end of my day i go into my okay let's let's let's jump online and see what people are talking about and get in there and talk to you guys and i'll throw i'll throw the kristen stewart dakota fanning runaways biopic on i like dakota fanning a lot she's great susan goes on to say i remember lita ford's kiss me deadly video oh so do i as a young boy susan and susan goes on to say and as a young adult female i was so pissed that she was crawling on the floor of the video any who there's a female guitarist i highly recommend you look up nita strauss she's been on alice cooper's tour for years and is amazing yeah i know i know who she is i've seen her on instagram she's incredible and i love i got a side note i love that alice cooper is still out there slinging it miranda nicole in the chat is asking if anybody has seen the scorsese directed documentary about david johansson yet and you know what what damn it i haven't and i was so excited miranda when this came out we talked about it here i was pumped thank you for reminding me go check that out my question to you miranda is have have you seen it let us know let us know on the patreon chat or give us a call six one seven nine zero six six six three eight voicemail and text you might hear yourself on next week's afterparty bonus episode all right i got this email i want to read to you guys from one of you guys hold tight let me find it okay this email comes from john and john writes in hey jake john here reaching out from morrison colorado i'm a huge fan of disgraceland and i love the way you blend music history with true crime i've also been hearing you plug this film should be played loud and seeing that you covered goodfellas really struck a chord with me that movie and the world around it is a big part of my upbringing i can't wait to watch it a little background i'm a carpenter by trade but a lifelong punk guitar player and lover of all music i'm from the bronx originally raised in north jersey my father had ties to the genovese crime family not a made man but a highly ranking associate it's a wild part of my upbringing and i have a feeling it's part of why so many of your stories feel oddly comforting to me in the same way that the work of david chase does one thing i always find funny is that despite all the teasing i got for liking punk yeah i got called all sorts of names my tough guy gangster d still drive down to trash in vaudeville on saint mark's place and pick up cd's and band tees for me the first thing he ever bought me was the new york dolls self titled record he had no idea what it was i didn't ask for it he just said there's a couple of freaks on it and it says new york life changing and speaking of interesting characters one of the guys my dad worked for angelo prisco a capo in the genovese family was involved in an extortion case with steven seagal all it's public information but still one of those wild almost absurd stories that feels right in your wheelhouse maybe some hollywoodland material there johnny goes on to suggest doing a jerry nolan jerry nolan from the new york dolls episode which would be fantastic that'll give us that'll make the the dolls a trilogy of stories in disgrace and i love this idea and he also mentions warren zevon and i think there's something from warren zevon's past his upbringing actually with his father i think his i think his old man was an associate of mickey cohen the gangster from los angeles back in the nineteen forties so that could be very interesting anyways johnny signs off rocka rolla johnny nuts p s i'm including a link to a music video for my band i think you'll at least get a laugh out of it not looking for a shout out just love the rock and roll thing i'm the guy with the tv yellow les paul knockoff johnny's band is called hell toupee like toupee like the hairpiece pretty funny check that out all right johnny nuts thank you buddy what a crazy upbringing you've had fascinating your dad sounds like a cool guy and i love that he i love the how did you put it here they're from new york and they got a couple of freaks i love that that so cool i miss trash in vaudeville as well great store on saint mark's place in new york i say i miss it like it's not there anymore it could be there i don't know i don't get to new york much anymore i don't think it's there guys disgraceandpod gmail dot com you want to hit me up about anything maybe you get a gangster dad i doubt it not everybody can be like johnny nuts but if you do or if you don't send us an email all right real quick johnny had mentioned this film should be played loud he's referencing our new video podcast which is available exclusively for our all access members over on patreon our first episode was on goodfellas our second episode is on train spotting this podcast combines mine and doctor zeth lundy's love for music in film we look at one film for each episode and discuss the music in that film the great music in that film okay and given our tastes and what we do here a lot of these films as we're sort of deciding what we're going to cover are crime based so it's you know it's all sort of in the world of disgraceland and hollywoodland but we're not dissecting the filmmaking that that much we're more dissecting how the music is impacting the filmmaking the scoring the needle drops the soundtracks all of that so obviously goodfellas incredible music and an incredible approach to music in that film and same goes for train spotting which we just filmed the train spotting episode last week the edit i think the edit is done and it's coming out for you guys on wednesday so before you get the next after party the new this film should be played loud will be released now if you guys are already patreon members we've got a couple different tiers you can be a free member and that gets you just you know you can sort of like check out everything we got going on over there you can be a member for a dollar a month and that'll allow you access to the chat you get to talk to the disco community you be a five dollar member that gets you a bunch of exclusive content ad free listening gets you a lot actually but to get 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All right we are back thanks for hanging with us here in this afterparty bonus episode of disgrace land listen i'm a patriots fan you guys know that and i cannot believe what is happening this season you know i like to jump on the mic occasionally and get in here and do these sports rants and just you know kind of give you about six thirty to sixty seconds of my my new england sports cynicism but i gotta say right now not a lot to complain about basically a rookie quarterback second year and we're going to the afc championship game i cannot believe where we are at and listen i want to frame i don't want to boast okay i i i saw a stat yesterday that said that the new england patriots after this championship game will have been fully in in fifty percent of the championship games played in the nfl in this century that is incredible we obviously had a fall from greatness when tom brady left and we were down in the hole looking up and i didn't know how long it was going to take for some sort of rebuild to happen it happened way quicker than i think anybody anticipated and i just have to say my heart goes out for all of you with football franchises in your hometowns the jets fans the bills fans i mean hell even the steelers fans out there the browns fans all of you guys who are just getting your heart broken year after year either in either in the playoffs and coming up short like you guys in buffalo or just maybe you're just like like i got a friend down here who's a jets fan and i just cannot believe i'm like dude how how do you do it i feel for you guys all right i'm not boasting literally i'm empathizing okay that said go pats i had to get that off my chest we do we do some sports here occasionally like i said thirty thirty to sixty seconds not trying to get it twisted and that wasn't a ramp by the way that was the opposite of a rant i apologize if you hear anything banging around in the background here in the middle of a little studio reorganization doing a little bit of a i don't want to call it a rebuild but things are definitely in flux getting this space set up to do a lot more video and i'm actually recording super early today and i'm recording early because i gotta go to the doctor gotta get a stress test what's that all about i'm not stressed but you know what they say stress is the silent killer i guess so it doesn't hurt to get that checked out not trying to turn this into a public service announcement i'm just trying to kill some time while i cruise through my computer here and find the next the outline of this of this episode oh yes here we go okay what was i gonna say i was gonna direct you guys to the hollywoodland podcast you know about the hollywoodland podcast hosted by doctor zeth lundy my partner in crime hollywoodland is available now for you guys three times a week if you can believe that film fans we have our classic archive episodes giving you the true crime biographies of some of your favorite actors actresses and directors and then we take that episode and use it as a jumping off point i say we i should say zest because he's the guy like i said helming things over there then zeth gets into a discussion about that artist about their crimes in another episode called the wrap party and the wrap party of course leads in to the screening room which ties that artist and subject matter to some in subject matter to something a little more topical it is a weekly tripod of hollywood and crime awesomeness go to the hollywoodland feed to subscribe and follow on apple podcasts spotify or wherever you get your podcasts speaking of apple podcasts speaking of spotify guys appreciate the reviews a couple of you have reached out to me with your addresses those of you whose reviews i read on the show in the last few weeks for those of you in the audience who are like what the hell is he talking about well if you leave a review for disgraceland on apple podcasts and i find it and i read it here on the show and you hear it and you get in touch with me and let me know six one seven nine zero six six six three eight voicemail and texts i will then get back to you and get you some merch as a thank you the reviews help with discovery they are crucial for an independent show like ours and that's why we are pimping ourselves out here and this review is just perfect absolutely perfect the username jt jt jt jt jt jt junior i think i got that right says just listen five stars if you miss that feeling from grade school when that one kid with the weird parents told you about ozzy snorting a line of ants or bo jackson killing a cow with a rock or marilyn manson in his surgical removed rib this is the podcast for you jake is a great storyteller and the writing is captivating like rap listen to any of the wu tang episodes like country please listen to the willie nelson episodes listen to the jerry lee lewis episode or the tom petty epp or the merle haggard ep or the jay z ep well just pick one you kind of can't miss you nailed it there by the kid with the weird parents told you about ozzy snorting a line of ants that was absolutely me in grade school cool getting a lot of this information from my dad so yeah there we go my dad who is a researcher for double elvis kind of comes full circle get in touch jt jt jt six one seven nine zero six six six three eight spencer lau ninety five writes on spotify on the johnny thunders episode best episode in a long time great storytelling and johnny is the perfect subject for disgraceland wonder what happened to his guitars i do too imagine having johnny thunder as a guitarist oh my goodness get in touch spencer get you some merch all right we're about to get into the exclusive section of this after party and talk about some of the wilder events that have gone down at award shows past not just the grammys you got to be an all access member to cop that content go to disgraceandpod dot com to sign up and get all access exclusive material ad free listening and more foreign guys thanks for joining us for another episode of the disgraceland afterparty bonus show we mentioned inxs metallica the who whitney houston george michael all artists who have been covered in disgrace sand before check out our archives for these stories and more matt will have the episode information in the show notes all right let's recap shall we number one this week our new episode on the runaways is available for you guys to listen to right now number two in the rewind slot this week coming up right after this bonus episode we've got part one and part two of nwa number three next week another two parter on lady gaga that's a new episode number four zeff gives you those hollywood and crime vibes in hollywoodland so make sure you're subscribed number five this film should be played loud our new video podc episode two is coming next week on trainspotting go to disgraceandpod dot com to sign up and become an all access member so you can get that content number six six one seven nine zero six six six three eight your voice it keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history so keep calling texting with your answers to this week's question of the week with whatever else you want to talk about number seven don't forget discos this isn't just content it's a community a community of the obsessed no one cares about music books records and all the crime and grime it ties them all together like you do and well that's a disgrace sixteenth nineteen seventy six that was the day this week's full episode subject of disgraceland the runaways released their debut album this is what america was listening to on that day according to the billboard charts number one december nineteen sixty three oh what a night the four seasons last week one peak position one weeks on chart thirteen number two two all by myself eric carmen last week two peak position two weeks on chart fourteen number three dreamweaver gary wright last week six peak position three weeks on chart twelve number four take it to the limit eagles last week four peak position four weeks on sharp fourteen number five quit talking and start mixing cut it.