Bonus Episode - Great Girl Groups au Go Go

Summary

Disgraceland Bonus Episode Summary: Great Girl Groups au Go Go

Release Date: May 29, 2025

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Introduction to the After Party

In this bonus episode, hosted by Jake Brennan of Double Elvis Productions, listeners are welcomed to "Disgraceland," the podcast's after-party segment. This segment serves as a bridge between main episodes, offering an informal space to delve deeper into the week's topic, engage with listener interactions, and preview upcoming content.

Main Discussion: The Go Go's – Pioneers of Female Pop Groups

The focal point of this episode is the Go Go's, a trailblazing all-female band celebrated for their unique achievement of releasing a number one album entirely composed of their own songs. Jake emphasizes the significance of this accomplishment in an industry often dominated by male songwriters and producers.

Key Highlights:

• Historical Significance: The Go Go's were the first all-female group to top the charts with self-written material, challenging the industry's skepticism about female musicians' songwriting capabilities.

  Jake Brennan [04:50]: “They were the first group of all female musicians to have a number one album of songs that they wrote themselves. That’s noteworthy because they were told by industry insiders they couldn’t expect to write their own songs and have a hit album.”

• Comparative Analysis: Jake contrasts the Go Go's achievements with other prominent female artists and groups, noting that while solo artists like Taylor Swift and Madonna have multiple number one albums, these were predominantly co-written with other writers, unlike the Go Go's entirely self-composed hits.

  Jake Brennan [10:15]: “Taylor and Madonna relied on co-writers for their number one albums... The Go Go’s wrote their own songs as the band members themselves.”

AI and Recognition of the Go Go's

A significant portion of the discussion critiques the oversight of the Go Go's in AI-generated lists of the greatest girl groups.

Key Points:

• AI Limitations: Jake explores responses from Google’s Gemini and ChatGPT, highlighting their omission of the Go Go's from top girl group lists. He expresses disappointment and concern over this exclusion, suggesting it reflects a broader lack of recognition.

  Jake Brennan [15:45]: “It’s beyond discouraging that AI doesn’t recognize the Go Go’s. They have the first and only number one record in pop music history for an all-female group that wrote their own songs.”

• Cultural Impact: Despite their induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and ongoing performances with contemporary artists, the Go Go's remain underrepresented in mainstream accolades, a point that Jake finds troubling.

  Jake Brennan [18:30]: “The fact that the Go Go’s aren’t even mentioned is a fricking disgrace. It’s alarming.”

Upcoming Content Preview

Jake teases future episodes, including a "Rewind" segment on Madonna, discussing her wild career moments and the iconic song "Borderline." Additionally, a new episode on Marilyn Manson is announced, exploring his subversive impact in the 1990s.

Jake Brennan [20:50]: “Next Tuesday, our brand new episode on Marilyn Manson is dropping. We’ll dive into his inhumanity and rock star depravity.”

Listener Engagement: Voicemails and Texts

The episode features interactions with listeners, sharing their perspectives on the Go Go's and other girl groups.

Notable Contributions:

• Tony from the 206: Advocates for both the Go Go's and the Bangles, suggesting a versus battle between the two.

  Tony [16:10]: “I definitely say the Go Go's, but I also say the Bangles. They would make for an interesting versus battle.”

• Johnny Vinyl: Extends appreciation for the Go Go's while also giving honorable mentions to other groups like the Runaways and Vixen.

  Jake Brennan [17:18]: “Johnny Vinyl… you’re putting the Runaways at number one because the Go Go's…”

• 303: Offers insights into hair bands and their criminal backgrounds, requesting an episode focused on this topic.

  303 [17:50]: “If you could have one episode on one hair band, who would it be?”

Jake responds by acknowledging the input and hinting at potential future episodes covering these interests.

Additional Content and Announcements

The episode also touches on other podcast-related content, including a sneak peek into the "Hollywoodland Minute" segment featuring stories from the Annex of Hollywood and true crime. Additionally, Jake encourages listeners to support the show through reviews and membership to access exclusive episodes.

Conclusion

Jake wraps up the episode by reiterating the importance of recognizing the Go Go's contributions to music history and expressing anticipation for upcoming discussions. He underscores the podcast's commitment to exploring the intertwined narratives of music and true crime, inviting listeners to stay engaged and participate in ongoing conversations.

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Notable Quotes:

• Jake Brennan [04:50]: “They were the first group of all female musicians to have a number one album of songs that they wrote themselves…”
• Jake Brennan [15:45]: “It’s beyond discouraging that AI doesn’t recognize the Go Go’s. They have the first and only number one record in pop music history for an all-female group that wrote their own songs.”
• Tony [16:10]: “I definitely say the Go Go's, but I also say the Bangles…”

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Upcoming Episodes:

• Rewind Episode on Madonna: Exploring her career and the song "Borderline."
• Marilyn Manson Episode: Delving into his influence and controversies in the 1990s.

Listener Engagement:

• Contributors like Tony and Johnny Vinyl share their favorite girl groups and suggest topics for future episodes.

Membership Invitation: Jake encourages listeners to become Disgraceland All Access members for ad-free listening and access to exclusive content.

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For more detailed discussions and exclusive content, visit www.disgracelandpod.com.

Transcript

[Jake Brennan]

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We're previewing the coming Marilyn Manson episode, getting into some recommendations and some subversive 90s talk. And we go through your voicemails, texts, DMs, emails and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. All right, discos, let's get into it. All right, the Go Go's this week's full episode subject of disgrace. And they did something that no one has ever done before. They were the first group of all female musicians to have a number one album of songs that they wrote themselves. And that's noteworthy, as we discuss in the episode, because at the beginning of their career they were told by music industry insiders, namely record executives, that they couldn't expect to write their own songs and have a hit album. But that's exactly what they did. So the obvious question then is, are the Go Go's the greatest group of female musicians in pop music history? Now I both love and hate these big dumb questions. I love them because as dumb as they are, they force us to have a conversation about things. I dislike them immensely because they are so basic and they are so limiting. They eliminate any nuance and that can be address. But hey, we do the nuance thing in the full episode for these after parties. Let's just get the, let's get the conversation going. To do that, we need to say the obvious thing here, which is that there are plenty of women who have had number one albums, okay? Taylor Swift has 14 number one albums for God's sake. But there's also Madonna, Barbra Streisand, there's others. Now Taylor and Madonna relied on co writers for the songs on their number one albums, okay? I'm not saying that Taylor Swift doesn't write her own songs. Don't hear this the wrong way. She does write her own songs. She just writes them with Jack Antonoff and other people, okay? Other people have a hand in it. That wasn't the case with the Go Go's. They wrote their own songs as the band members of their band. Okay, Madonna, same thing, first album, I don't think she wrote anything on it. Then she got some success. She co wrote with other musicians True Blue in particular. Huge album for her number one. I think they're all co writes on that. Barbra Streisand, to my knowledge, didn't write any of the songs on her number ones. I did a little bit of research into this and Britney, Beyonce, Janet Jackson. It's not like they were holed up in a dingy rehearsal space writing their own tunes, okay? They had writers and or co writers crafting their hits as well. And again, there are zero girl groups. Everyone I just talked about was a solo artist. There are zero girl groups with number one albums with who wrote their own songs. Diana Ross and the Supremes. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Dixie Chicks or the Chicks? I'm sorry. Spice Girls, tlc, Danity Kane, Blackpink. None of you did what the Go Go's did to achieve your number one albums, and that is write your own tunes. All right? It's such a singular achievement that I can't even find a proper list from Rolling Stone, the magazine of record when it comes to stupid lists. I can't even find a real list of greatest girl groups of all time from frickin Rolling Stone. So Billboard has a list, but it's paywalled and I'm not paying for it. Us Weekly has a list, but it isn't ranked, which doesn't do us much good. So let's see what the robots have to say. All right? Google's AI, their Gemini product, when prompted with the question, who are the greatest girl groups of all time? Gemini answers with the following. The Supremes, Spice Girls, Destiny's Child are widely considered the greatest girl groups of all time. Now when I ask ChatGPT the same thing, ChatGPT gives me the following answer and ranked list. So here's the answer again, the question is, who are the greatest girl groups of all time? ChatGPT, the artificial intelligence, says the best girl groups of all time can vary depending on criteria like commercial success, cultural impact, critical acclaim, or fan base devotion. Here's a comprehensive list that includes influential and successful girl groups from various genres and eras. All right, so here's the ranked list in reverse order from ChatGPT. Number 10. Brownstone. I've never heard of them. Number nine, the Raw Nets. All right, I get that. Eight. En Vogue. I get that. The Supremes are at seven. Yep. Six is Little Mix, a group I've never heard of. Five. Girls Generation. That's K Pop, that I've never heard of. Blackpink is at number four. I believe Blackpink is the woman from White Lotus 3, Destiny's Child, 2, TLC, and number one, Spice Girls. That is a tough list for a number of reasons. I'm not even gonna get into it. I mean, Ron, that are way too low. That's all I'll say. Okay, so the ChatGPT robot included other lists as well, unprompted, because ChatGPT does right by me. Okay, I guess, let's see. ChatGPT the good little robot gave me. What are the what? Okay. Critically acclaimed and culturally important. Okay, so that's this list here for the groups on that list. Sorry, Four of the groups on the critically acclaimed and culturally important list are groups that I just. That were in the top 10. So I'm not going to get into that. It then gives me a list of underrated and cult favorites. And when I saw that as the heading, as the headline, I thought, okay, here we go. This is where the Go Go's are going to end up. So here's the list. Number five on the list of best underrated and cult favorite girl groups. Number five, the Bengals, Number four, swv. Number three All Saints, number two, Sugar Babes, and number one, Danity Kane. The Go Go's are nowhere to be found on any of these lists, which makes zero sense. Zero. The Go Go's were not the Runaways. The Go Go's were not even the fricking Bangles. They were so much more. It's beyond discouraging that AI two different AI applications, mind you. It's beyond discouraging that AI doesn't recognize this band. It's alarming, actually. Now you might be shaking your head saying, well, it's just AI and who gives a shit about AI? And I would say, yeah, okay, but artificial intelligence is a reflection of the actual intelligence that is currently on the Internet, okay? Or I would say the lack of intelligence that is currently on the Internet. How the girl group that wrote their own songs and had the first and the only number one record in history of pop music that were not one hit wonders, who had follow up hits, a significant career, significant post careers for its members, was just recently inducted into the Rock and Roll hall of Fame and is still performing on relevant bills with other relevant artists. How they're not number one on this list, never mind, just completely excluded from these lists, is beyond me. It's like the Go Go's have descended back into subterranean punk rock obscurity as it concerns the mainstream, the masses. This should not be taken lightly. AI may not take my job as a guy who writes about music, but it's going to be the first veil of history. It's going to be the source that most people in the future reference first when they're looking for quick facts and quick views into the past. And the fact that the Go Go's aren't even mentioned is a fricking disgrace. Okay, I feel like Belinda Carlisle pissed off some robots or something. I have no idea what's going on here. It makes no sense. Maybe I'm in the minority. Maybe the Go Go's weren't that good. Maybe the Go Go's weren't that significant. Maybe because they come from punk rock, I elevate them somewhat in my mind for some reason, but I don't think so. I mean, those, those songs were ubiquitous. They were everywhere. They were stone cold hits. They're still being played. I. I just cannot get with the fact that they're not recognized here. It doesn't make any sense. And if you want a deeper look into why I feel this way, obviously check out this week's full episode. We just released it a couple days ago. And we're gonna find out where you guys stand on this and what you guys think and who you think the greatest girl groups are of all time. When we get into your voicemails and your texts and your DMs in a bit. But before that, I gotta tell you, I gotta tell you guys about the upcoming rewind episode that's hitting your feeds after this one. That episode is on Madonna, and it's freaking awesome. And in it, I discuss some of the wilder moments in Madonna's career, of course, but I also talk about one of my favorite songs of all time. A Madonna song, but a song Madonna did not write. A song called Borderline. And it features one of the coolest music cues that we've ever created in Disgraceland. So check that episode out. It's coming your way next in your feed for some throwback Disgraceland vibes. Then next week on Tuesday, per your request, okay? It's our brand new episode on Marilyn Manson. And oh, the inhumanity what this guy did, what this guy admitted to doing, the staggering level of rock star hubris and depravity. This episode is gonna give the Gigi Allen episode from our archive a run for its money. All right? And when you're listening to this episod, I want you guys to be thinking about who the most subversive artist of the 1990s was. Was it Marilyn Manson? Was it Gigi Allen? Was it Madonna? Was it someone else? Let me know. I'll be talking a little bit more about this in the bonus section of this after party today. 617-90-66638 Leave me a voicemail. Send me a text on your thoughts on Marilyn Manson. The subversiveness of the 1990s. Marilyn Manson as an artist. Was he the most subversive artist of the 90s? 617-906-38 voicemail and text. I want to know. Hit me up. I'll respond in next week's afterparty episode. You may hear your own voicemail or you may hear me read your text right here next week. I'll be back in a minute after this short break with your answers to last week's questions, your voicemails, your texts, your emails.

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[Jake Brennan]

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[Tony]

Jake, what's happening, brother? It's Tony from the 206. I know it's been a minute since I talked to you. To answer your question on who the greatest girl group is the Go Go's. I definitely say the Go Go's, but I also say the Bangles. I always thought the two of them would make for an interesting versus battle. If you remember the verses from the Lockdown era, I always thought the two of them going head to head over who had the better so interesting. So much love from the 206 and I'll holler at you later. Peace.

[Jake Brennan]

Tony in the 206. Thanks for the call, my man. I get the Bengals love I do. I don't. I just don't rank them as high as the Go Gos. And for various reasons, I don't want to beat a dead horse. But mainly it's. It's just the hits. The hits are stronger and the Go Go's came first as well. You got to give them some credit for that. Johnny Vinyl from the six one seven. What's up brother? Let's hear what Johnny's got to say.

[Tony]

Hey, what's up Jake? It's Johnny Vinyl answering the question of the week. Who's the best all girl band. So I have to say the Runaways have a slight edge over the Go Go's, and then the Go Gos set the stage for the Bengals. So I would say it goes in that order. Throw in there for honorable mention Vixen.

[Jake Brennan]

Absolutely.

[Tony]

For the 90s you have to pick L7. And another honorable mention is the band veruca salt, where two out of the four members were the lead singers, guitarist, and wrote all songs, and they were amazing in the 90s. So that's your lineup right there. You know, I can't stick to just one, but great episode of the Go Go's had me laughing with the whole situation of Ozzy kicking. Forget what her name is, but kicking her out of the hotel room. You have to be pretty fucked up to have Ozzy kick you out anyway, brother.

[Jake Brennan]

Have a good one, Johnny. Appreciate the voicemail as always. Great list. And you're. You're kind of throwing what I just said back in my face. You're putting the Runaways at number one because the Go Go's and. Yeah, I get how you can do that. They did not have the hits that the Go Go's had, obviously. And they. Neither did they write their own songs. I don't believe. I think it was all Kim Fowley. Right. But I get it. And I love how you mentioned L7. No one's brought them up yet to me. Actually, someone on Instagram did. But I love that we got it in voicemail form here and Veruca Salt as well. Huge, great call. Appreciate you, my man. 617-906-6638. You guys want to send me a voicemail? Next week's Question of the Week is going to be on the 90s. Artists who were the most subversive. Is it Marilyn Manson? Is it somebody else? Was it Gigi Allen? Gigi Allen died in 1993, so I don't know that we can say that, but the617 here writes in hey, Gigi Allen episode you mentioned, the Pit in Harvard Square. It's gone now, which pisses me off. But it hadn't been the same since the early 2000s. However, it was a special place for me from about 1987 to 1992. You and me both. I didn't have any friends in the Pit because I wasn't from Boston, but I was hanging out there on weekends. My dad lived in the city, I was from the burbs with my mom. And I would come in, I'd go to Newbury Comics, I'd get some pizza in the mall there. I forget the name of that place. Still smell that pizza, though. And yeah, I'd go hang out in the Pit and I'd hope to not get beat up by the skinheads. And I'd just sort of gaze upon the punk rockers and think, what the hell are these fucking gutter punk kids all about? As well. It was a whole thing, man. And six, one, seven. We probably crossed paths. Eight to eight texts In. Hey, just finishing up the Sign of the Times bonus episode and thought I'd throw you some PNC park picks. I got to love Pittsburgh sports fans. I got. I got to cut this. This texter off for a minute here. You know, I mentioned a Pittsburgh Pirates hat once, maybe twice, and the Pittsburgh fans come out of the woodwork. It's. I can't tell you how many texts I've got. And voicemails from Pitts and Instagram messages, just Pittsburgh sports fans, maybe Pirates fans, just looking to talk. You know what it reminds me? It reminds me of my dog, Dusty, who, like, you know, someone says the word walk and she comes out, she goes, someone say walk? Someone say walk? You know, it's like. You mention the Pirates, it's like, pirates. You guys want to talk about the Pirates? That's the Pittsburgh fans. I love it. And this one sends in these. I'll read the rest of the text. These pictures are probably mostly from Yankees visits, since I'm a transplanted Connecticut native. Lee, appreciate the text. And you have a beautiful ballpark there in Pittsburgh. Gorgeous. Someday I hope to Visit. Thank you. 303 writes in. Hey, if you need research help with hair bands, that's my jam. I read Circus and Hit Parader magazines cover to cover every month for almost a decade, starting in the 80s. Listen, 303, appreciate you. I might take you up on your offer at some point. I just found out that the singer for Warrant died. Is that true? Is that true? And if you guys could have one episode on one hair band, who would it be? Let's. Let's. Let's make a quick little, quick little rundown here. Poison. I'm thinking these are all bands I despise, by the way. Okay, now, no shade. If you like them, I get it. You know, I guess the older I get, a Poison song comes on. I have some nostalgia for it, but let's just go. So I'm excluding Motley Crue. Let's just go. Five hair bands. You can get one episode on them. Poison, Skid Row, Warrant, Winger, and then, I don't know, dealer's choice for number five. I don't know if it's Faster, Pussycat, Cinderella, who we talking about? I can do one. Now don't just be selfish and be like, I like that band. Therefore it's number one. Come at me. Voicemail. 617-906-6638. Text. Come at me with what you think will make the best hair metal episode. Okay? Which now, to your point, three zero three. I was reading Hit Parader and Circus, but I was skipping those articles. And I definitely wasn't putting Janie Lane up on my wall. No shade if you were. But you know, some of you know way better than I the history of these bands, these hair metal bands. So I want the one. I want the ones with the most criminality in their background. Is it Skid Row? Is it? Is it? I don't think it is. Is it Poison? I don't think it is. Again, Motley Crue does not count. We have a new episode of Nikki Sixx coming your way. And we of course have an episode on Motley Crue. So we're gonna have two. So there you go. But get at me, hair metal fans. Let me know. 302 writes in as a teenager in the 80s and the 90s and grew up with a mom that was hyper concerned about what neighbors thought. This banger was so important to me. And that banger is Salt and Pepper's none of your business. And this is on the heels of the Sign of the Times episode that we did on Prince where we were talking about which artists best represented their generation. And the 302 wrote in ahead of that text. I'm so mad at myself for not mentioning TLC and Salt and Peppa in the Sign of the Times conversation. Both bands were huge in making a statement about feminism and safe sex during the AIDS epidemic. And you're absolutely right, they were. And they were females. So it's apropos of our conversation right now, this week, as well as our conversation last week. Thank you 302 for tying it all together. You guys are the best listeners. Appreciate you. 617-906-6638 Voicemail and text. You wanna get at me? Disgracelandpod on the socials. You wanna hit me there? Paul over in the UK on Facebook writes, hey, it's Paul from the plus four fours. That's the uk in case that's Lost in translation. Working my way back through your amazing back catalog and am still stuck in the past somewh when you're asking for recommendations. Don't worry, Paul. We were asking for recommendations last week as well. We do it from time to time. Recommendations on stories to cover and I thought to cast an eye to the future and see if you've covered Wales's very own Manic Street Preachers and was surprised to see that you hadn't. Definitely something there regarding Richie's disappearance. Surely no worries. If not, I'll still continue to enjoy what you do offer. Many thanks, my good sir. Cheerio and Toodlepip. Paul he really did write Cheerio and Toodle Pip. Paul Richie Edwards Disappearance Singer of Manic Street Preachers I looked into this pretty significantly a bunch of years ago. It was the subject that Payne, Lindsay and I were going to cover before we get into the Dead and Gone podcast. And we just could not come up with enough information. There's really not a lot of information out there. So it's a tough subject to cover, but that hasn't stopped me in the past. I think we could do one episode for sure. And Paul, we will probably get into that sometime in the near future. Okay, so by the time you catch up, hopefully that'll be sitting in your RSS feed. Thanks, Paul. Disgracelandpod on Facebook X and on Twitter. You guys wanna get at me about any subject? That's where you can do it. It can be anything music related, it can be anything podcast related. It can be anything related to the books that we discuss here. It can be anything related to the sports that we sometime seldomly discuss in these little 30 second sports rants that I've been doing. And I have to just say here to all my Pirates fans out there, I feel you. I feel like we're becoming one of you as Boston fans. We are melding. I say that because the Red Sox, it's not even June and the Red Sox are dead. We need to lay the Red Sox out. Lay them out down at McNally's Funeral Home, head over to the Old Timers for a shot of Jameson, a pint of Guinness, because the Red Sox are dead as a doornail. They're what, two, three games under.500 at this point. Seven ish games out of first in a not so great division. It's time for me, I think, to put my Mets hat on and hope for a Subway Series in October and come at the Yankees that way. This is embarrassing. They shouldn't be this bad. The Red Sox, they should not be this bad. I don't care that Bregman's hurt. I don't care. The Cassis is hurt. They have the horses. They're not playing them and the ones they are playing are sucking there. I don't know what's up. It's just management, coaching, playing. It's everything. It's fucking awful, okay? I can't stand it. 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Visit Groons Co today. That's Groons Co all right, we are back and you know what time it is. It's time for the Hollywoodland Minute, brought to you by the Hollywoodland Podcast. Don't know what the Hollywoodland Podcast is? Well, the Hollywoodland Podcast is hosted by yours truly where every week I tell you a story from the Annex of Hollywood and true crime. And right now there are over 40 episodes waiting for you to binge episodes on James Dean, Danny Trejo, Charlie Sheen, David Lynch, John Waters, Marilyn Monroe, Drew Barrymore, Steve McQueen and most recently on Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Here's a clip. Dwayne Johnson had wrestling in his blood. His father, Rocky Johnson, was the first black wrestler to win the Georgia heavyweight championship. Now he was working some west coast gigs as the tag team partner of Samoan wrestler Peter Maivia. Rocky Johnson had trained as a boxer, sparring with guys like George Foreman and Muhammad Ali. But he gained some popularity in wrestling working the regional circuits in the late 1960s. When Rocky got to town, jet lagged from the flight from Japan, Peter Maivia invited him to crash at his house and they were friendly, but they weren't friends. Wrestling was a business. You didn't let things get personal. The illusion that it was all real was part of it. And so was the way a group of wrestlers would barnstorm a region for a few weeks before moving on on. A wrestler couldn't be seen at the diner with the guy who's going to knock the out of that night. The good guy, AKA the face, didn't pal around with the bad guy, AKA the heel. For Peter Maivia, it was more than that. Guys in the business had problems. Drinking, drugs, violence. He was no saint himself. Normal folks didn't get into wrestling, so there weren't many wrestlers that were normal. Therefore, there weren't many wrestlers that Peter Maivia wanted to hang around with. And there certainly weren't many he wanted hanging around his daughter. So when Rocky Johnson started flirting with Peter Maivia's daughter, Peter did his best to shut it down. Unfortunately, this match was scripted. They fell in love and ran off to get married without Maivia's blessing. Two years later, in time to meet his grandson, little Dwayne, Peter Maivia admitted defeat. His daughter had married a wrestler. All right, guys, make sure you are subscribed to the Hollywoodland podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcast. Next week we've got an episode on Fatty Arabuckle. One of the biggest scandals and trials in Hollywood history. The crime of the century. Before O.J. simpson, before Sean Diddy Combs. Sean Diddy Combs. Why are you handing out XC shaped like Barack Obama? What's up with that? Disgracelandpodmail.com you want to get at me in the email format? I unleashed a dragon last week when I brought up fish. The fish fans are real, the fish fans are plentiful, and the fish fans are full throated. Now, there will be a Fish episode and I will bring love and intention to the creation of that episode and it will come within this calendar year. Fish fans, I have heard you speak. I have heard you roar. This email comes from Lacey McNary and I'm reading it because it is just apropos of what we're doing right now. Subject Fish message. Hey Jake, it's lacy from the 502. Just heard your bonus episode where you talked about fish and how you love the who. You may be interested to know that Fish covered the whole Quadrophenia album at their Halloween show in Chicago back in the day. I was there and I had a blast. Here's a link. Lacy, appreciate the email. I did not know that and I believe I said that. I love the who now. It was a long road getting to love the who. I didn't grow up loving the who like, I didn't grow up loving the fish. And I like that the fish. I'm gonna call them the fish from now on. I hope you don't mind. I like that the fish covered Quadrophenia. I think that's an incredible achievement and I'd actually be interested in seeing what that looks like. So perhaps I'll watch it, appreciate it, and maybe. Maybe that'll end it. End up in the episode. The episode on fish. Excuse me, on the fish that we are going to produce. It's way more criminal than I could have hoped for. I'm pretty stoked about it. And I say all this because we just. And I read this email in particular because just yesterday I recorded a new episode on the who on the Riverfront Coliseum tragedy from the early 80s where 11 people died at a who concert. And it's a pretty harrowing story and I can't wait for you guys to hear it. And it's coming up in a couple weeks, so you have that to look forward to. In addition to the fish. The fish. The. The fish episode. Did I say that right? Okay, reviews. I often get asked, hey, how can I support the show? You know I'm beating the dead horse when I tell you because you already know. Leave a review on Apple podcasts. Leave a Review on Spotify. Let the world know how much you love Disgraceland and that'll help the algorithm feed Disgraceland to other potential listeners. And every week I go on these apps and I pull up your reviews and I read them here. And if you hear yours read, hit me and I will respond in time and I will in touch and I'll get you some free merch. Okay. Only for the reviews that I read here, I read two a week. One on Apple, one on Spotify, this one from CJEV on Apple podcast, five stars titled Jake Never Misses. I've been listening since 2020 and I enjoy every episode, even ones which I do not care for. The artist just finished the David Crosby episode. I never cared for his music until after he passed away. I took a deep dive into his catalog and I really enjoyed it. And man truly was an outlaw musician who made great music. My only complaint about the show is that I usually listen during my long work commute, and I often think that the sirens and the screeching tire and the episodes are real. Just kidding. Keep up the good work now. Thank you so much. CJ of y' all might be going to yourself saying to yourself right now, what David Crosby episode? What are we talking about? There's no David Crosby episode of Disgracing. You're looking at your Apple podcast feed right now, your Spotify feed, your whatever feed. You don't see David Crosby in there. And the reason you don't is because the David Crosby episode is only available to our exclusive All Access members of Disgraceland, where every month they get a extra episode. Okay, cjove is talking about that extra episode on David Crosby from Crosby, Stills Nash, and whoever the fuck as a wise man once called them. And the reason that we covered David Crosby is because his story is insane. It's nuts. This guy was off the fucking rails in the worst way. Anyhow, you want to hear that episode, you got to become a member. It's only five bucks a month, and you can do [e-mail] membership. Get that cross action like Melissa Etheridge, all right, but for much cheaper. Okay, this episode is coming to an end, but not for All Access members. The All Access members I just mentioned, they also get a little bit more of the bonus episodes still, and they get ad free listening. Go to disgraceandpod.com membership to become a member for just $5. All right, we are back, everybody. Gonna get out of here in a minute. I want to talk about some episodes that we mentioned here. Some subjects, some artists that we mentioned here that we have episodes in the Vault in the archive. That's Taylor Swift. We brought up Taylor Swift. And we have a two part episode on Britney Spears, who we talked about a little bit here. We did not. We don't have an episode on the Supremes. We do have a Motown episode. And of course you can't talk about Motown without talking about the Supremes. TLC came up. Tlc. We got a TLC episode in the Archive. And Shania. Tw. Did I talk about Shania Twain? I don't know that I talked about Shania Twain. But we do have an ACDC episode. Now how is Shania Twain related to acdc? Well, Mutt Lang was married to Shania Twain and Mutt Lang produced those massive Shania Twain records. He also produced Back in Black, amongst other massive Def Leppard. Just huge. So anyways, ACDC episode, check that out. Def Leppard we'll get to at some point, but not before we get out of here, unfortunately. Got a recap right now. Number one, my other podcast, Hollywood Land, is kicking over in the Hollywoodland feed. So make sure you're subscribed and following Hollywoodland on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. And check out our recent episode on Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Number two, right now, your Disgraceland feed has a brand new Go Go's episode. You know all about that because we spent the first half of this episode talking about it. Number three, Coming tomorrow, our rewind episode on Madonna. And next Tuesday, our brand new episode on Marilyn Manson. Number four, Merch winners. Get in touch. You know who you are. Number five. Remember though that no one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock roll more than you do. And, well, that's a disgrace. All right, in honor of this week's subject, the Go Go's, this is me reading you the Billboard charts of number one songs from the day that the Go Go's debut album went to number one on March 6, 1982. Number one centerfold, the Jay Giles Band. Last week, one peak position one weeks on chart 18. Number two open arms journey. Last week two peak position two weeks on chart eight number three, I Love Rock and Roll, Joan Jett and the Black hearts. Last week nine peak position three weeks on chart five. Number four, shake it up, the cars. Last week four peak position four weeks on chart 16. Number five.

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[Tony]

Ball going deep left.

[Jake Brennan]

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