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Quints.com Disgraceland hey discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life? Just a touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland. The After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the After Party. This is the show after the show. The party after the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission? To uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we're talking about this week's full episode subject, part two of our 50 Cent story. We're rewinding back to our Rolling Stones episodes and revisiting Oasis as well, previewing our upcoming episode on Jimmy Buffett. And we get into your voicemails, texts, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told. The kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, discos, let's get into it. All right? If you were lucky enough to see Oasis on their latest run, know that I sit here burning in jealousy. The band announced this morning that they're going to do more shows for their upcoming 30th anniversary next year at Nebworth. They must have heard our rewind episodes last week and were reminded of how badass they are and how the music world needs them performing to save us from whatever the hell the MTV Video Music Awards were. The other night, Thurston Moore from Sonic Youth tweeted that the VMAs is really the bottoming out of music culture, and I cannot say that I disagree. Separately, it's hard to even call what was happening at the VMAs culture. So much of it seemed fabricated to me, put on faked. Are those people up front really that stoked to see Somber perform? Really, part of the VMAs was always canned and for the cameras even back in the day. But long gone is the cultural resonance of Snoop performing his hit single in 1994, Murder was the Case, and then turning himself into police moments later on a murder beef. Or Kurt and Courtney sniping backstage with Axl, or Madonna making out with Britney, or even Kanye Bum rushing Taylor. Sure, these seem more important because they took place during our formative years, but they really were more important than whatever the hell happened the other night at the VMAs. No one is talking about the VMAs. Not really sure conversation is being manufactured, but I make it my business to try and get a wide view of music culture. I follow and consume modern music media and organically. I can tell you the cultural impact of the VMAs is small. No one really cares. But people are still talking about those Oasis gigs that happened in Los Angeles last weekend. People really care about that. Somehow two Irishmen from Manchester, England, in their 50s, who never really broken America before have conquered America without a single and with only nostalgia. And the reason isn't just because their music is great. It's because of what we traffic in here in Disgraceland. Mythology. The myth of Oasis is transcends age, it transcends style, it transcends oceans that separate continents. Blur might have had the bigger hit in the US back in the day, and arguably, and I'm saying arguably, not definitively, and I'm letting the word might do a lot of work here in the sentence. Some people, not me, might claim that Blur arguably has a better catalog of albums. But in the end, Oasis won the Britpop war. They conquered America two decades after the fact because of the myth surrounding who they are, and none of that rock and roll mythology is put on or canned. Oasis didn't rule the summer of 2025 both here and across the pond because of a new single or a new album or an unexpected viral video on TikTok or whatever else Oasis conquered because everyone loves rock and roll mythology and Oasis are mythic. They are legends to their core, truly authentic, 100% themselves, unafraid to say exactly what they think, fearless in the face of trends, in the face of each other, ready to throw down with whomever willing to brawl with themselves, with the world like the hoodlums that they are at their core, like true rock and roll stars, not prefab, focus group tested, algorithm approved artists like Somber or Pick. Whichever other lame musician performed the other night that made you throw up in your mouth while you were watching the VMAs, whatever that was. Oasis is the exact opposite, and they've been that for years. Oasis didn't need canned responses from some bullshit digital marketing campaign. The myth didn't need to be manufactured because the myth already exists. We don't need corporations, we don't need algorithms, we don't need chasm to tell our stories. We never did. And if Oasis proved anything this summer, it's that we still don't. If you want to hear exactly what I'm talking about, check out the two Oasis episodes that are in the feed right now and hear how the band rose through the crime and grime of working class Manchester into what they are the today. We've also got another legend in your feed right now. Another outspoken legend, I should say. I. I'd love to hear a conversation between liam Gallagher and 50 Cent. By the way, Liam, just an aside. Liam Gallagher dissing Mark Zuckerberg is just Mark Zuckerberg, if you haven't seen this, posted a pic of him and his wife at Oasis. And I forget what Liam's. Liam's quote was or his. His comment on the post was it was something like go home nerd or something like that. It was just fucking perfect. I'd love to hear liam Gallagher and 50 Cent talking. Let's. Let's make that happen. But anyways, in your feed right now, our part two episode on 50 Cent and the Myths surrounding who exactly was responsible for shooting 50 50, whatever the hell you want to call them. That's our new part two episode on 50 Cent. And coming up next in your feed immediately after this bonus episode, we are rewinding our RO Stones parts one and two. If you want to dip back into the way back British pop star machine and get a glimpse of what the tabloid scaffolding that would support and consume Oasis later in the 90s was all about. This is a good piece of music history for context. Okay, Rolling Stones part one and two. Check that out next week. I can't wait. I can't wait for next week's episode of Disgraceland. God's own drunk hits your feedback when Jimmy Buffett drifts into your ears. Will he arrive on a drug trafficker cigarette boat or will he arrive half stoned and just a tiny bit loaded on his Boston Whaler? Or will he show up with Bono fresh from dodging Jamaican bullets? You're gonna have to listen to find out. So, so, so, so, so, so, so much information in this Jimmy Buffett story. We couldn't cram it all into a 30 minute episode, but I've got a way to bring you more of the music in True Crime on the reg in a different format. I'm excited to share with you more on that in coming weeks though. Right now, back to the King of the Parrot Heads. I couldn't stand Jimmy Buffett growing up and I'm sure there's a bunch of you who feel the same. I'm sure the opposite is true too. I know there are Jimmy Buffett fans out there listening right now because you recommended this episode. You got me hip to Jimmy Buffett and now I've got nothing but respect for the son of a son of a sailor. And I can tell you firsthand that those first five or six albums, for all the Buffett doubters out there, those first five or six albums are pretty great. They truly are. If you're into the band, that sort of early 70s, I guess, all of the 70s Dylan stuff, even some Graham Parsons at alt country stuff like give that early pre Margaritaville Jimmy Buffett stuff a listen, you're not going to be disappointed. And when you're listening to Jimmy Buffett next week, the Jimmy Buffett episode of Disgraceland next week, I should be more clear. When you're listening to that episode, I want you to be thinking about which artists did you previously just dislike, not be able to stand that you now find yourself loving? This is a long list for me. Okay. Genesis, Anything. Phil Collins. Really? Steely Dan. You know my history with the Grateful Dead. But I want to know which artists you now love that you once hated. 617-90-66638 Voicemail and text with your answers to next week's Question of the week. 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Guys, the 2025 MTV Video Music Awards are what happens when we let corporations steer the culture. That's where we're at right now, unfortunately, in 2025, when music's driven by marketing departments instead of what we're calling myth. Now, if you feel like today's music culture doesn't reflect the stuff you care about, you're not wrong and you're not alone. And that's why Disgraceland exists. And this is what me and the disco community are up to in the Patreon Chat on the regular daily discussing and obsessing over the legends and myths and music history that matter most. Reclaiming the sanitized music history, stories from the chasm gatekeepers, revealing what really happened. Elliot Smith. And arming you with stories about music legends that will make you dangerous at dinner parties. So if you want a like minded community of music and culture obsessives, access to me and Zeth on the reg and no ads, head to Disgracelandpod.com membership and become a member of our little club today for just under five bucks a month before prices go up. Every week, guys, every week I'm in the same damn spot at the same damn time. Right now. You know where I'm at. I'm in the phone booth. It's the one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone hoping to pick up that sweet comfort of your voices and get your answers to last week's question of the week. Which hip hop star, living or dead, would you most want to hang out with or grab a drink with or whatever? We asked this because obviously of our 50 Cent Part 2 episode in the feed, Karen from the646. Hit us up. Let's hear from Karen.
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Hey, Jake, what's up? It's Karen in the 646. I don't know if I'm too late. I just heard your question from the bonus episode. Like, which hip hop artists you want to talk to and spend some time with and have a drink with and ask questions and just have a good conversation with. And immediately I thought, Chuck D, of course. Rock and roll, bro.
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Karen, Chuck D. You know, I. That if it weren't for 50 Cent, that would be my answer. I could. I could make it. I can make a case for Q Tip as well. A lot of people said Chuck D. Karen, you're not alone. Let's go to Tony in the two oh six.
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Jake, what's going on, brother? Tony from the 206. To answer your question, I would want to have a conversation, sit down. Conversation with none other than Legend himself, LL Cool J. I mean, the man, essentially, it's kind of been around since the birth of hip hop. You got to remember, he was the first act signed to Def Jam. He's the first solo rapper to go platinum. So, you know, he's got tons of stories. Guys around the 80s 90s especially, you know, what was it like making that transition into acting, but still also being, you know, still known as a. As a legitimate rapper? You know, did he ever really have a problem with Tupac over the fact that him and Tupac at one point both dated Kidada Jones? Allegedly. But, you know, yeah, that'd be the guy who I'd really want to have a conversation with. Much love. Love this episode. Peace.
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LL Cool J, great choice. He goes so far back, back to the beginning. I mean, living icon, this guy. Not the Chuck D isn't, but Tony, I love this one. And I love this one because I'm gonna tell you a very, very quick story. Not so long ago, I found myself on a Zoom or about to join a Zoom that I knew LL Cool J was going to be on. It was just going to be me and Todd. That's his real name. We were told in advance to make sure we call him Todd. It was just going to be me, Todd, my business partner at the time, and Todd's guy. And most times, I get into these Zooms. I get into these, you know, a little bit early. And the way it works in Hollywood, they have, like. Or at the high level of music industry, and forgive me if you guys know this stuff, whatever. I'm just saying it for those who don't, typically, the artist, a big artist like that, their representation is on the phone first without them, and it's such a power move. I kind of love it. They don't, so. So the star won't come onto the call or into the Zoom until their rep lets them know that everybody's there. So. And I get it. It's. I. I wouldn't do that, but I understand. It's like they're. They're trying to manage their time. You could say, you know, generously, that's the reason for this. Or they just don't want to fuck around with small talk, with people they don't know. So they come in at the absolute last minute, and then they write down a business. They're super charming, they make you feel good, and then you're right into what you're gonna talk about. So I get on the Zoom, expecting that to happen. And I get on the Zoom, and it's literally just me and LL Cool J, and he just goes. The first thing he says is double Elvis in that LL Cool J voice, because he saw it pop up on my Zoom moniker, and he couldn't have been cooler. He was attentive. He was informed. He knew what was up. And like, all A list celebrities that I've met and been around, they make you the. A list celebrities, make you feel great. They come at you with all that charm, and you're just like, oh, fuck, I totally get why this guy is so fucking famous and successful. B list celebrities. Kind of the same thing, kind of, to a lesser degree, C list celebrities. That's when the sort of, like, you can feel. You can feel the. What is it? You can feel some insecurity and perhaps some venom. You can feel a little bit of, I don't know, angst. You know what I'm saying? And this is not my take, by the way. This comes from Paul Scheer. Who? Lovely guy. I just ran into him randomly one night at a bar, and we got to talking, and he told me this story, and then I went on his podcast and went on, how did this get made? And we talked about it there as well, with his partner Jason. But this is his theory. I don't want to take credit for it. I want to Confirm it. LL Cool J confirms it. And yeah, I guess I. I didn't hang with ll. I had a business meeting with him, but it was still very, very, very cool. Kevin from the 31 4. So I can stop talking here. Play the 31 4.
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Matt, Jake, Kevin calling from the 31 4. Been listening from day one. But my first time calling in, you asked about who would you like to talk to in the hip hop community. I hate hip hop, but I will tell you. Ice tea. Why? For all the obvious reasons. But not the obvious reasons, right? I mean, come on. The guy was a legend in that world. Became an actor. Body count, the guy turned into a metal act. A metal act. That's unheard of. Anyway, would love your thoughts. Peace out. Rock and roll.
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All right, Kevin, I got a quibble with the hating hip hop comment. I don't know how that's possible. I don't know how you. How do you hate iced tea? So. So if I'm listening to you correctly, you like body count, but you don't like ice teas. Rap stuff. And I just, I, you know. Well, I like that you want to hang out with him anyways. Maybe he'll. Maybe he'll open your mind to hip hop. I hope so. 716 texts in on the same question. This always feels like a flex when I say it out loud. Hey, I don't care about flexing. I share your stories, man. 716 says. Might sound like a flex when I say it out loud, but it kind of is. I would spend more time with Chuck D. Yep. More time. After his book Fight the Power Rap Race and Reality, I got to see Chuck D talk about it. It's such a robust piece of work. And at that time, I ran a nonprofit and got spend a little bit of time with him afterwards talking about generational poverty and housing issues. It was the most interesting and meaningful conversation of my career. Love that, 71 6. Love that. You got to hang with Chuck T. You were very lucky. Super cool. All right, what are we doing here? Let's go to the. I'm going to read you a text here from the904 if I can find it. Where's it at? Where's it at? Where's it at? Right here. Jake Spencer from the 904. In today's afterparty, Spencer's referring to the last after party. Are you talking about a toot and a snore? The session of John Paul and Stevie. If so, it exists. I've listened to it. It's them Jamming Stand By Me and other songs. It's fantastic. You can even hear John ask Stevie if he wants a bump at one point. Spencer I love this. And I got to apologize to everybody out there. I thought this was some like actual real mythic piece of content that no one could get their hands on. I had no idea you could just go on YouTube and find this. And I feel really stupid. So that's going to happen. We're all going to feel stupid in our lives. Spencer, thanks for pointing this out, I guess. You know guys, what we're talking about here is last week we were talking about mythical recording sessions and we talked about John Lennon, Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder. And I always heard that Ringo was there too. Spencer I might not be wrong, but y' all can figure this out for yourselves. Now. You don't me you can go to YouTube and just snow and just snort and just search for a toot in a snore. There you go. Thank you, Spencer. Over in what part of the world we go into next? Let's go to the 916.
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Taylor from Raleigh, North Carolina. I'm sitting here in Los Angeles, California after what is arguably maybe the best concert I've ever seen. Oasis at the Rose Bowl. It was every bit as epic as was promised. It was better than I could have imagined. The band is just so tight. Liam is every bit the street walking cheetah he ever was. They had us in the palm of their hand for the entire show. 80,000 fans could not get enough. It was just an endless sea of the happiest people you've ever seen witnessing a band in their prime. Which is crazy to think because it's been 30 years and they're still doing this at the highest level. The show was incredible. The screens were amazing, the set pieces were just so fascinating and interesting and everybody in that entire stadium was having the time of their lives. Great show. I just, I'm at a loss for words at how well they have put this together, how great they looked and sounded. Oasis is maybe the biggest rock band in the world right now because they belong in stadiums like that and they will pack a stadium every time they show up because it's the best show on earth. That's all I gotta say. Rock n Rolla Jake, I'm at a loss for words.
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916, you are confirming the first 500 words of this episode here. My rave on Oasis and I'm happy you were there. I have extreme FOMO not going to these shows. I don't have a lot of Regrets in life. This is one of them. I might have to go to Nebworth. Might be happening. I don't know. Where the hell is Nebworth? I don't even know. All right, guys. Usually I talked about this yesterday in the Patreon to some of the Patreon listeners. Used to be I just released 24 episodes a year. I released one every other week. Not even every other week. It was, you know, that was the schedule, and it was more of an event when a Disgrace Land episode would come out. Now we've got. We're always on. We've got multiple episodes per week. Feels less like an event on social media. When I. When I would do just 24 a year, I'd release one. I'd wake up in the morning, I'd open Instagram and Facebook, and there'd be this, you know, a lot of people, lots of big conversation. Immediately, just like that. Now the conversation. There's a big conversation, but it's always happening. It's always on. Just like the episodes. It doesn't feel as eventized, and it's also fragmented. We're talking about a gazillion different things at once. We're not spending as much time talking about, you know, one, one single episode like 50 Cent Part 2 this week. What I did yesterday, I went on Patreon in the afternoon and I just. I just started a live stream and I started talking to some folks. And I think I'm going to do that every Tuesday on release days with episodes. And if you're around, you're in the Patreon chat. Get on in there on Tuesdays, and we'll chop it up about, I guess, next week we'll be talking about Jimmy Buffett. All right, so the parrot heads, this is your chance. This is your chance. You want escapism Disgraceland style, You're going to get it firsthand from me next Tuesday in the Patreon chat. I don't know, sometime Est afternoon, maybe. I'll push it seven, eight, early evening so west coast folks can jump in. I know we got a lot of listeners in California and Los Angeles. Speaking of listeners, I want to shout out Kimberly Harris from the Patreon community for being an especially awesome Disgraceland All Access member. She's always in the chat. She's always bringing something new, information wise, bringing something new to the community. She's obviously appreciated by all. Plus, she just had a birthday. So. Kimberly, if you're listening, know that we appreciate you and that I'm personally grateful for your continued support and I am no Mitch. Big shout out to everyone else who jumped into the unannounced live stream on Tuesday night with me. Let's do more of that. I'm gonna take a quick break. I'll be back in a flash.
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So this week in Hollywoodland, on our Hollywoodland podcast, we let loose our Carrie Fisher episode from the Vault into the archive, into the wild. You can hear that now. And you can hear Szeth talking movie history and true crime in the wrap Party episode as well. So we do a full episode from the archive of Hollywoodland every week. Plus, Zeth does his version of a bonus episode called the Wrap Party, which people are loving, and I'm psyched for that. And I'm psyched that you're all welcoming Zeth and supporting him in the community. This wasn't really planned. It just kind of happened. And. And it's, you know, Zest's got his own thing going on. He's got a. He's got a point of view on a lot of stuff, and you guys, you guys are down with it. And I love that. I love that. So subscribe to Hollywoodland wherever you get your podcasts. You want a little bit more true crime, but this from the Hollywood side of the fence. Seth and I used to drop our music in movie recs in the Wrap Party in the Hollywoodland feed, but from now on, they are going to live here in the after party. Inside the exclusive section this week, I've got some killer music picks related to Carrie Fisher, if you can believe that. Zest's got his movie recommendations, and I might even throw together a little playlist just for the All Access members. But to hear it and to, you know, get all that you get and get everything else we're dropping weekly, you got to be an All Access member. Go to Disgracelandpod.com membership Sign up now for just five bucks a month while you still can. That price, like I said, is going up soon. And the recommendations, it's just the start of it, all right? Just the start of what you're going to get as a Disgraceland All Access member. Get a little taste, Matt. Give him a little taste here. This week's exclusive segment to the show that you're going to be missing if you're not an All Access member. Guys, this is me and Zeth going, going deep into the recommendations rabbit hole. All right, let me get to the next recommendation here. Fisherman's Blues. Okay, Carrie. Carrie Fisher. Fisherman's Blues by the Water Boys. Water boys, yeah. 1988 album of the same name. Seth Lundy, what's up with the Water Boys. And why are they my new favorite band? What is this song is fucking tremendous. It's so good. Have you heard that new Dennis Hopper record they have? It's like some song cycle about Dennis Hopper or something. Isn't that the Waterboys? I think so. It's. The Water Boys have come up so much recently and going as far back. Talk about the 90s high school when I was like moving furniture in Boston for Dan's van and the Irish guys just, just constantly trying to get me to listen to the Water Boys and I, I never did. Was the dude from, was the dude from World Party in that band originally. Right? They have a song called World Party and I don't know the answer to your question. I think he was. Who was the, like the, the main songwriter in that band? Do you remember Mike Scott, I believe is his name. Huh. Okay, cool. Water Boys are kind of a blind spot for me, honestly. Big blind spot for me. I'm remedying that today. This song, Fisherman's Blues, I put it on this morning and I was, I was. It's not even like a happy go lucky. It's not, it's not. It's kind of like mid tempo. It just, it's, it's, it's got rock and roll abandoned at its core. Like, like Dylan in the 70s with a band behind him. Like the best version of that. That's what it reminded me of. Like Street Legal or something like that. It was so good and it just, I had a moment this morning, like a life affirming moment that music will do to you every once in a while. And it was this song and it just, it blew my mind. And you know, the refrain is I want to be a fisher fisherman. Or you know, I want to be a fucking fisherman. I really truly do. Alrighty. 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Release Date: September 11, 2025
Host: Jake Brennan (Double Elvis Productions)
This interactive "After Party" bonus episode of DISGRACELAND bridges listeners between the show’s regular, deeply researched narratives and the musically obsessed community that’s grown around the podcast. Jake riffs on the return of Oasis as a powerhouse, the decline of cultural moments like the MTV VMAs, the power of music mythology, listener feedback about hip hop legends, and a preview of upcoming episodes—while weaving in memorable stories and plenty of irreverent cultural critique.
The episode is a blend of quick-hit music history, modern music culture commentary, listener call-ins, and previews of both DISGRACELAND and its sister podcast, Hollywoodland.
Main Segment (05:10 – 13:00, 24:08 – 25:41)
“80,000 fans could not get enough. It was just an endless sea of the happiest people you've ever seen... Oasis is maybe the biggest rock band in the world right now because they belong in stadiums like that, and they will pack a stadium every time they show up because it’s the best show on earth.” (24:08)
Main Segment (16:19 – 23:00)
Question of the Week: Which hip hop star (living or dead) would you want to hang out with?
Notable Listener Picks:
“It was the most interesting and meaningful conversation of my career. Love that, 716. Love that. You got to hang with Chuck D.” (21:52)
Sidebar: Jake is incredulous at Kevin's “hate hip hop” take, and gently ribs him for liking Ice T’s metal but not rap work.
Key Moments (21:52 – 24:08)
“I thought this was some like actual real mythic piece of content that no one could get their hands on. I had no idea you could just go on YouTube and find this.” (23:07)
Next in the DISGRACELAND Feed (12:45, 36:00)
“For all the Buffett doubters out there, those first five or six albums are pretty great... If you’re into early '70s Dylan, even some Gram Parsons alt-country stuff, give that early pre-Margaritaville Jimmy Buffett stuff a listen.” (12:45)
Segments Throughout (~27:00, 35:41)
Exclusive Segment (30:22+)
“This song, Fisherman’s Blues, I put it on this morning and I was... it blew my mind. And you know, the refrain is I want to be a fisherman. Or you know, I want to be a fucking fisherman. I really truly do.” (31:00)
“No one cares about music, books, records and the crime and grime that ties them all together like you do. And well, that’s a disgrace.” (35:51)
On Oasis’s appeal:
"Oasis conquered because everyone loves rock and roll mythology and Oasis are mythic. They are legends to their core, truly authentic, 100% themselves, unafraid to say exactly what they think..." (09:44)
On the corporate decay of the VMAs:
“The 2025 MTV Video Music Awards are what happens when we let corporations steer the culture.” (14:48)
On discovering Jimmy Buffett:
"I couldn't stand Jimmy Buffett growing up... and now I've got nothing but respect for the son of a son of a sailor." (12:45)
About hanging with LL Cool J:
“And he just goes—the first thing he says is—'Double Elvis' in that LL Cool J voice, because he saw it pop up on my Zoom moniker, and he couldn't have been cooler…” (18:28)
On listener Taylor's Oasis review:
“80,000 fans could not get enough. It was just an endless sea of the happiest people you’ve ever seen witnessing a band in their prime. Which is crazy to think because it’s been 30 years and they’re still doing this at the highest level…” (24:08)
On celebrity encounters (Paul Scheer’s theory):
“A list celebrities... make you feel great. They come at you with all that charm, and you're just like, oh, fuck, I totally get why this guy is so fucking famous and successful...” (19:38)
The episode is breezy yet deeply passionate, mixing irreverent critique of the industry with nerd-level respect for music history and street mythology. The tone is conversational, regularly punctuated by direct listener input and shoutouts, making the community central to the show's ongoing narrative. There's a strong sense of insider knowledge, but the host remains welcoming—even when poking fun at listeners or industry absurdities.
This After Party episode captures what makes DISGRACELAND essential for music obsessives: unfiltered dives into pop culture’s forbidden stories, a clear-eyed view on the erasure of myth in modern music, and a commitment to surfacing listener voices—reminding us that the best history isn’t just told, it’s remembered and lived. Whether you’re here for tales of Oasis’s legendary bravado, hip hop wisdom from Chuck D and LL Cool J, or the surprising allure of early Jimmy Buffett, DISGRACELAND’s After Party is an ongoing invitation to join the culture’s most passionate outsiders.