Jake (Disgraceland Host) (3:21)
Hey discos, Need a little more Disgrace Land in your life? Just a touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland. The After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. The this is the show after the show. The party after the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard to dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's subject of the Disgraceland full episode, the Exorcist, the scariest books that you've ever read, and our regular update on Sean Diddy Combs. And of course, we are diving into your voicemails, texts, and more. And as always, a whole lot of Rosie. All right, Discos, I let's get into it. I don't know if you've been there before, but I have. It's late. You're in bed, Lights are off. The only light is the book light, and the book that you're reading is dark, but you can hang for 90% of it anyway. Inevitably, there's going to be that part of the book, that 10% that gets you, that sneaks up on you, that causes you to cut from reality, to think that maybe, just maybe, you did hear something. So you have to get up and put on your robe and head downstairs and go check. Maybe you're good with your fists so you're not that insecure. And maybe you've got a gun. Or maybe, like me, you're in your robe with the Louisville Slugger you keep near your bed and now it's in your hand. You've got two tactics. You can be loud and hope to scare them away as you come down the stairs like a bull in a china shop and hope that whoever or whatever you heard hears you and hightails it out of there before you get downstairs. Or you can go soft and slow, quiet, and hope to sneak up on the intruder or the intrusion. But what if you succeed? What then? What if you do sneak up on them? Are you gonna fight someone off in your robe with your baseball bat at 11:30 on a school night while your kids and your spouse sleep quietly upstairs? This is ludicrous and you know it. But you keep moving forward because you're freaked out. Because the book you're reading freaked you out. Because you got so into it, you disassociated from reality. You were sucked in, and then the house breathed and something cracked and you snapped out of it and your fear surged out into the open. You get downstairs and you turn all the lights on. You went for the bull in the china shop approach, and now, thankfully, there's no one here. There's no intruder, and there's no supernatural phenomenon either, that you know of. But how can you tell, really what there is, though, is bread and salami and cheese and mustard and lettuce and those good chips your wife buys and cold milk so you can eat away your fear in the dark at the kitchen table and then head back upstairs and yes, back into the pages of your book, because it's that good. In Cold Blood by Truman Capote, Salem's Lot by Stephen King, Chaos by Tom o', Neill, and yes, most definitely the Exorcist by William Peter Blatty. All of these books that I've read, they've scared me so bad that this, what I just explained, has happened. Where I've gotten up from wherever I was usually in my bed like I described, and walked downstairs to try to figure out what the hell was going on. And for good reason. Two of the authors that I've mentioned here, of the books that I've read that I found to be most scary, two of these authors are on the list of the top 20 scariest movies of all time. Those authors would, of course, be Exorcist author William Peter Blatty and Stephen King. I'm going to give you the list. I haven't read a lot of them, but still, I find this list interesting. This is from goodreads.com all right, I'm gonna give you this list in reverse order, and I'm gonna give you my thoughts as I run through These on each of these books, if I've read them. If I haven't, I'll just breeze through. Unless I have a thought on something I haven't read, but I don't know. Who knows? Okay, number 20. American Psycho by Brett Easton Ellis. This book is incredible. And even though it's funny, it's a funny book. Unintentionally funny, I believe, but no, no, that sounds like. That sounds like I'm degrading the writing. I'm not. There's a great sense of humor to Brett Easton Ellis' writing. Definitely present in American Psycho. It's a main part of it. It's absurd, so to speak, but it's also. The book is also very, very scary. I found it to be anyways. So. Okay, 19. The other. I don't know what this book is. It's by Thomas Tyrone. I can tell you, though, the COVID is incredible. I've never read it, but I'm intrigued. Okay. 18. The stranger beside Me. This is a book about Ted Bundy. I haven't read this either, but if it's on this list and it's about Ted Bundy and it's in the top 20, then it sounds to me like this is the book on Ted. Bu. I could get into this. I haven't read many serial killer true crime nonfiction, but Ted Bundy has always fascinated me for obvious reasons. So this looks like something that I could get into. If any of you have read this one, The Stranger Beside Me, Ted Bundy, the Shocking Inside Story, let me know, because I'm intrigued. Okay, 17. Swan Song. 16. House of Leaves. Never read either. Number 15. 1984 by George Orwell. I read this in junior high, I think, or early in high school, and I don't remember it being scary. I do need to reread it because I feel like we're living it right now in the world. And I would like to reread it as an adult with the context of 2024, but I don't remember it actually being scary. If you guys do, let me know. Get in touch. Let's talk about 1984. I'm here for it. 14. And I'm psyched. This is on the list. Legion, by William Peter Blatty, the author of the Exorcist, which I think is a continuation of the Exorcist. Hold on, I'm going to check that out. Okay. Actually, Legion is. It's kind of. It's not really a sequel to the Exorcist, but it is. It does follow a mystery with the detective from the Exorcist, which is a great character and involves a zodiac killer. This looks incredible. And I love William. Peter Blatty's writing, as you know. So I'm probably going to read this. Probably going to read this next, actually. 13. The turn of the Screw by Henry James. Read it in high school. Don't remember any of it. Never mind. Don't remember it being scary. Heart Shaped Box by Joe Hill. Haven't read it. I believe that's Stephen King's son. Okay. The Pit and the Pendulum by Edgar Allan Poe. Dracula by Bram Stoker. Ghost Story by Peter straub. Those are 11, 10, 9. Number 8 is Lord of the Flies by William Goeding. Read that freshman year. That I can say was actually scary. Sleeper sleeper scary. That book kind of scared the hell out of me. I don't think it was intentional. Number seven, the Haunting of Hill House by Shirley Jackson. There's a lot of horror that I don't read. Okay, here we go. Number six, Carrie by Stephen King. Okay. I said on last week's pod that the movie was not. I did not think the movie was scary. The book, I can't actually remember if I read it. I don't think I read it. 5. Pet Sematary by Stephen King. Horrifying, horrifying book. Truly, truly scary. Number four, the Exorcist. Number four. I like how it's top five. Is it scarier than Pet Sematary? Yes. Should it be? Number one. We're gonna talk about that in a minute. Number three, Salem's Lot. Also terrifying, terrifying book. First Stephen King book I read. And maybe that's why it's the scariest to me, because it was the first that I read. And I didn't understand horror at that age. At that. Pet Sematary was the second book I read. Stephen King book that I read. But Salem's Lot scared the hell out of me. Anything that normalizes. I said this in the book club last night. Anything that normalizes vampires scares the hell out of me. Part of me thinks that vampires are real. I think, and I haven't really admitted that to myself until right now, just this notion that these people in everyday life could in fact be 450 years old. I find that to be incredibly horrifying. Number two, the Shining. Definitely scary. Very, very, very scary. Scarier than Salem's Lot, though. Nope. Scarier than the Exorcist. Scarier than Pet Sematary even? I don't think so. So I don't know that I would put the Shining Number two, the movie is definitely terrifying. And number one, and I'm ashamed to say I have not read this book, Stephen King's it. Okay, I need to read it and I need to read it soon. There's no excuse. I've been talking about this book for about 10 years now. Definitely the six years I've been doing this podcast with you guys, and I still haven't read it. So again, number one, it. Number two, the Shining. Number three, Salem's Lot, all three spots occupied by Stephen King. Number four, the Exorcist. And number five, also Stephen King, Pet Sematary. So four of the top five scariest books of all time, according to Goodreads, our Stephen King books. And the other one is the book that we discussed in the book club last night and the book that we recorded a podcast on, the film adaptation of the Exorcist. Okay, so I think we're in the right ballpark here, guys. And we talked a lot last night about a bunch of these books in the book club. That was awesome. Thank you. If you guys weren't there, you missed out. Make sure you get in the next one. It's a lot of fun. And I said this last night. I really love seeing your faces. It makes us. The connectivity of this whole thing, the engagement, it puts it over the top for me. It's just great to spend some face time together. So for everybody was there. Thank you so much. Great conversation. We spent about 90 minutes, you know, the first half hour we talked about the Exorcist, and then really for the next hour, we talked about all kinds of shit. And it was. It was awesome. And we figured out that we're going to try to do another book club between now and Christmas if we deem that we have enough time in our schedule. I don't want to impose upon everybody's busy time of the year. We were looking for a book, though. Here's the point where we're looking for a book that is in our wheelhouse. Okay? So dark, true, crimey, entertainment, music, world, whatever. But it is set around, in and around Christmas. Doesn't have to be a Christmas book, obviously, but we want something with some sort of Christmas theme. And I don't know what that book is. We talked last night. The only thing I could think about was the Godfather, because the Godfather has a heavy Christmas element to it. You know, I mean, it's not a Christmas book by any stretch, but I do want some Christmas vibes in whatever book we read. I love the Godfather. I don't want to push it upon anybody. I want to make sure you guys are excited about what we're reading as well. So if you have any other examples of a good Christmas set novel, I should say, or something, Christmas adjacent is probably the better way to put it. Let me know. We'll get into that. And that'll be our next book club book. Okay. We're going to figure that out. We'll figure it out on the Patreon chat. We'll figure it out on Instagram, on X, on Facebook, wherever we're having this conversation. All right, back to Scary Books. We're going to get to your answers for this week's question of the week on the scariest book that you've read. But before we do that little ditty update, as promised, the news this week, and there's, of course, you know, Tony Busby laying out these lawsuits. There's a new allegation, a new lawsuit alleging that Sean combs raped a 10 year old. And I do not know as of this date whether or not Sean Combs and his attorneys have denied these allegations. I'm sure they will. That's important to note. I'm just going to assume they have. So I'm saying that and I have not gone through the actual lawsuit, so I cannot speak to its veracity. So it's just there. We're going to get one of these every single week. Okay. And I'm not going to detail every single one, at least not in this forum. The other news concerning Sean Combs this week, that is more interesting to me now, check this out. Okay, you guys know we've talked about who Jaguar Wright is. She's on TikTok. She's saying all kinds of shit. She goes on to Piers Morgan, as we discussed, and she starts laying out her conspiracy theories and relative to Jay Z and Beyonce as they relate to Diddy. Basically, she's alluding to the fact that Jay Z is culpable in the Sean Combs mess. And she's been saying this all over TikTok, which is one thing. But to go on television, to go on Piers Morgan's show and to make these allegations is another thing entirely. So what happens is this is what prompts Jay Z and Beyonce to respond. They have their lawyer reach out to Piers Morgan. Piers Morgan has to come on and apologize for hosting Jaguar Wright and he has to basically pour water all over Jaguar Wright's allegations that she made because they're unsubstantiated. It's her word against, I guess, Jay Z and Beyonce's. Jay Z and Beyonce have not spoken directly to any of these allegations or conspiracies that connect them to Diddy. So we knew that. We talked about that a couple weeks ago. So why am I bringing it up again? Well, the reason is because there's a security guard now. Hip hop security guards on TikTok, It's a whole cottage industry, okay? They've got secrets. They're out there, they're putting themselves on camera, they're doing the podcast circuit, and they're talking about all kinds of crazy behavior that happens in hip hop. This is not anything new. Since these Diddy allegations. This. This little security guard interview cottage industry has really, really caught some fire on TikTok. And there's a lot of security guards who are out there talking, and. And they're sharing what they've seen. They've. They're taking you into the dark corners of the. Of the entertainment industry. Now, whether or not you believe them, that's up to you. They're not coming with any receipts. It's all hearsay. So, homie cc, who, I think I'm saying that correctly, is the security guard. He goes on to talk about Jaguar Wright on one of these interviews that's put on TikTok, and he says that she needs to be quiet, saying that this isn't safe, saying that, quote, this is when people wind up dead, unquote. Now, I'm telling you this because we learned end of last week, I believe, that another security guard, this one security guard for Jay Z, for Beyonce, and at one point for Diddy, security guard named Uncle Ron. Uncle Ron, like I said, it's recently been learned, has passed away, and to this date, his cause of death, as far as I can tell, is unknown. Now, why does this matter? Well, Uncle Ron was part of this sort of TikTok security guard thing, and Uncle Ron had about 200,000, 150,000 followers. 200,000. Something like that. Not huge, but big enough. And Uncle Ron was talking all kinds of shit about Jay Z and Diddy. And like I said, we just learned Uncle Ron has died and we don't know how. Okay? It seems strange. Why don't we know how? All right? And of course, nobody, Jay Z, Beyonce, Diddy, none of them have spoken on this death. And why would they? But I'm just putting that out there. Now, I'm not saying that Uncle Ron's death was caused in any way by Jay Z, by Beyonce, by Diddy, but I'm not saying that other people aren't saying that. Because they are. And still to this day, when you look at the entertainment industry, the music industry, the film industry, you're still not hearing a lot in the way of denial when it comes to these mega stars who have associated with Diddy, who have been at these parties and who are being associated with these allegations, at least in the conjecture that's going on on social media. And I think that's strange, and here's why. Because if it were me, let's say it were me and I were at one of these freak offs, and let's just say that I partook in a freak off, okay? But in a I'm just having sex kind of way. And I did nothing wrong and I saw nothing wrong and I saw no underage illicit behavior, nothing with minors, nothing with illegal drugs, nothing with abuse. If I saw none of those things and my name were being bandied about next to all these allegations, I would find myself in front of a microphone telling the world that I had nothing to do with this deplorable behavior that is being accused of Sean Combs and the cohort of celebrities who had regularly attended his parties. I find it strange that we have not heard that. Okay, what it all means. I think you can tell what I think we shall see. Okay, this is the Little Diddy update. I'm trying not to cannibalize the whole bonus episode here for Disgraceland. What I think I'm going to do is I'm going to move coming in January, right. I think what I'm going to start doing is I'm going to be releasing this weekly Diddy Dossier episode that's going to happen probably over the weekend. And it's going to organize all the news on Sean Combs up to that point. All right? And we're going to talk about all these things in an organized way. We're going to give it the space that it deserves once a week or maybe twice a month. I'm not exactly sure the amount of news that is out there will dictate the volume for our conversation. I am also, as of right now, researching and writing a full Disgraceland episode on Sean Combs that will come out in the beginning of January. And this is going to take us from where we left off in the first Sean Combs episode that we released last year, right as the Cassie News was breaking. It's going to take us from the point when Cassie Ventura makes her allegations to when Sean Combs winds up in jail. And I'm going to give you everything that is real. I'm going to give you everything that is fact based. I'm going to give you everything that is fact based in a dramatic edge of your seat storytelling way. That is going to be the episode on Sean Combs. It will be releasing in about six weeks. As I build that, as I research that out, I will also be keeping an eye on the Sean Combs news that is breaking daily as I have been. And I will be organizing this for you in some sort of weekly Diddy Dossier package, bonus episode type of thing as we go. And then like I said, I'll release that full episode in January and there will likely be other Sean Combs full episodes throughout next year as we speed toward the trial, which is happening in May. That's how at this moment, 10:30 on October 30, 2024, I am seeing how I'm going to cover the Sean Combs story for you guys. All right, enough on Diddy for right now. I'm gonna be back in a flash with your answers to last week's Question of the week. But real quick, we have this episode coming out next week on November 5th on the 1986 New York Mets. Now listen, sometimes you try things, you take a swing, pun intended. And things don't work out the way you want them to, but it's a big swing. And you take that swing just because, you know what, Fuck it, man. Sometimes you got to just do it, right? I'm a Mets fan. I'm a Red Sox fan, but I'm a Mets fan. I've talked to you guys about this before. They're my National League team. They have been since before the 1986 Mets met the Red Sox in the 1986 World Series. I rooted for the Red Sox and I was heartbroken in that World Series, okay? But the Mets are like my second team, and they always have been, in part because they're not the Yankees. And they hate the Yankees and Mets fans hate the Yankees and Yankees fans hate the Mets. I was really, really, really hoping for a Mets appearance in the World Series, and the biggest swing would have been for the Mets versus the Yankees because that's thematically part of what this episode is. It's also about all the drugs and all the drinking and all the strippers and all the sex behind the dugout and all the craziness that went on in 1986 with Doc Go and Daryl Strawberry and Keith Hernandez, just a phenomenal team. But it's also a story about the 1986 Mets and where they come from, which is Queens, New York, which is different than Manhattan, obviously. Okay, so when you're listening to this episode next week and you hear the themes that are coming out in this episode, I want you guys to be thinking about this question. What is the best sports town not just in America, but in the world? And why? Okay, are you in Philly? Is it Philadelphia? Is it la? The World Series will likely be decided by the time you hear this episode. So is it la? Or is it New York? Is it Boston? Is it Manchester? Man City? Liverpool? What is it Sao Paulo? Is that even a sports town? I don't know. Let me know. 617-906-6638 when you're listening to this Mets episode, I want you guys to be thinking about what the best sports town in the world is, and I want you to let me know why. 617-906-6638 and let me know. I'm going to take a quick break. I'll be back with answers from you guys on last week's Question of the Week.