Bonus Episode: Lady Gaga, Elvis Presley, and the Orion Conspiracy

Summary

DISGRACELAND – Bonus Episode: Lady Gaga, Elvis Presley, and the Orion Conspiracy

Host: Jake Brennan
Release Date: January 8, 2026

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Overview – Episode Theme and Purpose

This wildly entertaining bonus “After Party” episode of Disgraceland digs into the lore and conspiracy theories surrounding two pop icons: Lady Gaga and Elvis Presley. Host Jake Brennan parallels the tabloid-fueled urban legends that swirl around both artists, focusing specifically on how their towering fame inspired elaborate public myths—especially “Elvis is alive” rumors. Jake unveils the bizarre, little-known true crime saga of Orion—a masked Elvis-soundalike who became the spark for these conspiracies. Alongside this, the episode celebrates Disgraceland listeners, gives behind-the-scenes updates, and takes time to answer listener texts and voicemails.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Enduring Power of Music Conspiracies

(Start – 07:34)

• Jake opens by reflecting on failed music predictions and why he’s more compelled by history’s chaos than forecasted trends.
• He links the mass denial of Elvis's death to society’s penchant for creating larger-than-life stories around stars that become too big to simply die.
• Memorable Quote:

  “With Elvis’s passing came the conspiracies about his death and the conspiracy claims that he was still alive... You remember these theories, these sensational claims that screamed from tabloid newspaper covers and supermarket checkout lines for decades. Elvis spotted working at Burger King. Elvis seen in New Mexico.” – Jake Brennan (03:48)

2. Tabloid Fuel and Childhood Memories

(07:34–09:53)

• Jake shares personal memories of standing in grocery store lines in the '80s, bombarded by Elvis-sighting tabloid headlines.
• He draws a parallel to the current-day wild rumors about Lady Gaga:
  • Lady Gaga in the Illuminati
  • Lady Gaga stealing her identity from Lina Morgana
  • Even false gender rumors
• Memorable Quote:

  “Lady Gaga is just too damn famous and too compelling, too interesting for the public to not fabricate wild stories that supposedly explain her success... All of these are real conspiracy theories, even that last one, I swear to God, and wait to hear what she had to do to disprove it.” – Jake Brennan (07:57)

3. The Orion Conspiracy—Where "Elvis Is Alive" Begins

(09:53–13:00)

• Jake uncovers the origin of the Elvis-is-alive myth: an artist named Orion, signed to Sun Records (the original Elvis label), who appeared in 1978:
  • Orion looked and sounded strikingly like Elvis, but always performed masked and only ever called himself “Orion.”
  • Orion’s persona was partially inspired by a then-recent novel about a rock star, Orion, who fakes his own death.
  • Despite obvious differences, the mystery fueled public speculation.
• Orion (real name: Jimmy Ellis) was later murdered in 1998, the same year Elvis would have been 63—leading to fresh tabloid headlines (“Elvis Dead at 63”).
• Jake teases a deeper dive into Orion’s murder and legacy for Disgraceland All Access members.
• Memorable Quote:

  “…in the case of Orion, the truth, as they say, is stranger than fiction. Because the man who was Orion, who many claimed to be Elvis… that dude was murdered and by the time that happened in 1998, it was too late. Part of the public had already taken the bait and firmly believed that Elvis Presley was, as Orion established back in 1978, alive.” – Jake Brennan (11:25)

4. Upcoming Content Preview

(13:00–14:31)

• Season preview: Upcoming episodes will feature Johnny Thunders, the Runaways, Mia Zapata, and more.
• The next “rewind” episode will cover Chet Baker—another tragic, mysterious music figure.
• Jake invites listeners to weigh in via text/voicemail on which first-generation punk band had the biggest impact (New York Dolls, Stooges, Ramones, etc.), and theories on Johnny Thunders’ & Chet Baker’s deaths.

5. Listener Appreciation and Community Involvement

(14:31–17:08, 28:49–31:57)

• Jake thanks listeners for Apple Podcasts & Spotify reviews, offering free Disgraceland merch for featured reviews.

• Shouts out specific listeners ("Lazy R Squared", "Matt Bell") and urges all to leave new reviews for a shot at reading and prizes.

• Notable Moment:

  “We here at Double Elvis appreciate the reviews on Apple Podcast, and not just because I’m an egomaniac narcissist who loves hearing about how fricking awesome I think I am. No, I’m kidding. Though I am certainly that. No, I’m not.” – Jake Brennan (15:22)

• Celebrates a listener-curated playlist (by Mark), cataloging every song mentioned on Disgraceland to date, now 10 hours long.

• Jake rewards Mark with a year-long All Access subscription.

6. Lower East Side, Lady Gaga Backstory & Book Recs

(17:08–20:10)

• Discusses Maureen Callahan’s “Poker Face: The Rise and Rise of Lady Gaga” as the definitive account of Gaga’s myth-making origins in mid-2000s downtown NYC.
• Jake recalls the shift when dance music suddenly became cool among indie kids:
  • Draws a parallel to the era chronicled in “Meet Me in the Bathroom.”
• Previews a deeper Lady Gaga episode coming soon.

7. Listener Q&A and Reflections

(20:10–25:11)

• Engages with texts about future episode topics (interest in Black Flag, Henry Rollins).
• A listener (“Sherry F. from the Central Coast of California”) shares how Matthew Perry’s death profoundly affected her because of a deep connection to "Friends."
• Jake gets reflective about the Disgraceland episode covering Matthew Perry and the broader themes of addiction and grief.

8. Hollywoodland and the Wrap Party

(25:11–26:36)

• Zeth Lundy (host of sibling podcast Hollywoodland) drops in to preview his episode on River Phoenix, discussing the cultural loss when Phoenix and Kurt Cobain died so close together.
• Listeners are encouraged to check out Hollywoodland’s various movie- and true crime-centered offerings.

9. Community-Building and Patreon Content

(31:57–36:36)

• New All Access members are welcomed, and perks for joining at higher tiers are explained (e.g., exclusive video podcasts like “This Film Should Be Played Loud”).
• Listeners are reminded that the community drives the show’s subject matter and are invited to help curate future episodes.
• Notable Quote:

  “Don’t forget, discos. This isn’t just content, it’s a community. A community of the obsessed. No one cares about music, books, records, and the crime and grime that ties them all together like you do. And well, that’s a disgrace.” – Jake Brennan (36:17)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On music conspiracies:

  “…Elvis is alive and pretending to be an Elvis impersonator. That last one from the Weekly World News is my favorite.” – Jake Brennan (04:47)

• On Lady Gaga myth-making:

  “Lady Gaga is just too damn famous and too compelling, too interesting for the public to not fabricate wild stories…” (07:57)

• On Orion:

  “Who was Orion? Well, in 1978, the year after Elvis Presley died, Orion was a Sun Records musical artist who looked and sounded a lot like Elvis Presley. And I mean a lot… the only difference being that this artist, Orion, wore a mask…” (10:38)

• On the Disgraceland playlist:

  “This playlist is amazing. Mark is pulling every tune that we mentioned that he can find on Apple Music, every tune that we mention in our episodes, and putting them into what is so far a 10 hour playlist…” (29:08)

• On the show’s mission:

  “Our mission? To uncover the truth, to confront the myth, and to reclaim the story.” (01:15)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:00–01:07 — Introduction & framing the After Party concept
• 01:07–07:34 — The lineage of “Elvis is alive” conspiracy theories; cultural resonance of music myths
• 07:34–09:53 — Lady Gaga conspiracies and tabloid culture, linking the feverish rumor environments
• 09:53–13:00 — The Orion conspiracy: how Orion’s existence sparked decades of public belief in Elvis’s survival
• 14:31–17:08 — Listener reviews & community engagement
• 17:08–20:10 — Lady Gaga New York roots; book recommendations & era discussion
• 20:10–25:11 — Listener topics: Black Flag, Matthew Perry, the impact of deaths in pop culture
• 25:11–26:36 — Hollywoodland preview: River Phoenix & cultural loss
• 28:49–31:57 — Listener Mark’s epic playlist & community highlights
• 31:57–36:36 — Patreon plug, community-building, and recap
• 36:36–End — Brief Billboard chart recap from Elvis’s death week (for trivia/historical context)

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Tone and Style

Jake’s voice remains energetic, conversational, and brimming with both giddy curiosity and reverence for music’s underbelly. The episode speaks directly to the “musically obsessed, outsiders, [and] independent thinkers” who crave mythology, true crime, and above all, stories that “didn’t want told” (01:25). References are peppered with nostalgia, irreverence, and pop culture humor.

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Conclusion

For anyone fascinated with how urban legends and conspiracy theories grow from grainy truth, this episode serves both as a primer and a springboard. By connecting the enduring myths of Elvis and Lady Gaga, and dissecting the strange real-life story of Orion, Jake Brennan delivers another classic Disgraceland mix of scandal, history, and heartfelt listener interaction. Whether you’re here for the wild stories, the music lore, or the sense of belonging, this After Party delivers—and invites you to become part of the ongoing cultural conversation.

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Quick Links to Notable Segments

• Elvis Conspiracies & Orion Origin Story – 01:07–13:00
• Lady Gaga’s Lower East Side Roots – 17:08–20:10
• Mark’s Ultimate Disgraceland Playlist – 28:49–31:57
• Listener Engagement & Upcoming Content – 31:57–36:36

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Transcript

[Jake Brennan]

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Hey discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life? Just a touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast welcome to Disgraceland. The After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the After Party. This is the show after the show. The party after the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission? To uncover the truth, to confront the myth, and to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode we are discussing Lady Gaga and Elvis Presley related crimes and conspiracies, highlighting some special Disgraceland community members giving away some merch because it's always a season of giving here in Disgraceland. And we get into your emails, comments, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told. The kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, Discos, let's get into it. Happy New Year. We are back. We are shooting out of this canon called 2026 and I am so excited to be with you guys. Happy that you're here with me as well. Now listen, I don't know about y', all, but my algorithm served up a Small handful of 2026 music prediction articles over the past few weeks, over the holidays, at the end of the year. Now I never read these articles because no one really knows what's going to happen. And just because you know the future of music, it's way less interesting to me than the history of music. Now, one thing I think I know, however, is that at the end of 1976, nobody that I'm aware of anyways was predicting the death of Elvis Presley in 1977, which, let's be honest, given the King's physical shape, that wouldn't have been an unserious prognostication. But with Elvis's passing came the conspiracies about his death and the conspiracy claims that he was still alive and after all these years. This morning I wake up, I open my laptop, I'm trying to research music predictions from the past that went wrong, and somehow I end up on this total other path of research where I come across this event from music history, this spark, this single event that ignited all of these wild theories about Elvis Presley still being alive. You remember these theories, these sensational claims that screamed from tabloid newspaper covers and supermarket checkout lines for decades. Elvis spotted working at Burger King. Elvis seen in New Mexico. Elvis is alive and pretending to be an Elvis impersonator. That last one from the Weekly World News is my favorite. These headlines, though, these conspiracies. All right, as I'm going through them this morning and I'm thinking about my childhood and trying to make sense of all this, as I'm standing in the checkout line with my mom, you know, we're getting our box of Fruity Pebbles and our Sunny Delight, and, you know, she's probably got a carton at Winston's. She's getting for a little bit cheaper at the grocery store than she would at the, I don't know, the corner store. And, you know, just staring at the magazines on the rack there and, you know, the whole Elvis thing is just fascinating to me. I mean, if you were. If you were alive in the 80s and a kid in. In line at a grocery store, it seemed that every damn magazine cover was just plastered with these headlines. And I didn't know what the hell to make of it. I didn't believe it, that's for sure. But, you know, reconsidering them now as an adult. These headlines, these conspiracies, I should say they remind me of the conspiracies that I'm currently researching this week. These conspiracies surrounding Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga is just too damn famous and too compelling, too interesting for the public to not fabricate wild stories that supposedly explain her success. Lady Gaga is part of the Illuminati. Lady Gaga stole her musical identity from Lina Morgana. And now Lina Morgana's Dead Lady Gaga has a penis. All of these are real conspiracy theories, even that last one, I swear to God, and wait to hear what she had to do to disprove it. So there's a correlation, I think, between the conspiracy theories around Lady Gaga and Elvis. Okay, but back to Elvis. Now, I believe for years, as I'm sure that a lot of you have, that the reason that these conspiracies about Elvis still being alive, the reason that they sprung up is because, like Lady Gaga, Elvis was just too damn famous, too big, and when he died, he was too beloved for the public to fully let go of him. And I think there's some truth to that assumption of mind, that hypothesis that that's why these Elvis's alive theories continued to thrive. But I didn't know until today that there was another reason, an event, an actual event that took place the year after Elvis passed, that kicked off this crazy thinking that allowed the conspiracies to first take root and spread like these wicked weeds throughout our culture. And that event is the bizarre story of Orion. Who was orion? Well, in 1978, the year after Elvis Presley died, Orion was a Sun Records musical artist who looked and sounded a lot like Elvis Presley. And I mean a lot. Sun Records was, of course, the label that first recorded Elvis Presley, the record company that made Elvis Presley famous, the record company that put Elvis's hometown of Memphis, Tennessee on the map. And here it was, Sun Records in 1978, again, just a year after Elvis died. And sun was promoting one of its new artists, an artist who looked and sounded an awful lot like the King. The only difference being that this artist, Orion, wore a mask and that this masked man who looked and sounded like Elvis, refused to answer the question of whether or not he was Elvis, answering only the quote, he was Orion. Now, despite how much Orion looked, even with the mask and sounded like Elvis Presley, it was obvious to anyone of sound mind that this was not Elvis Presley and that Elvis, by 1978, was dead and in the ground, but the name Orion. The name Orion o R I o N had a special significance in 1978. The name Orion in 1978 wasn't just the name of what looked to be like the first Elvis impersonator of note. Orion was also the name of a character in a recently published work of fiction about a rock star trapped by his own fame, who kills himself to escape. Now, all of this may seem strange, but in the case of Orion, the truth, as they say, is stranger than fiction. Because the man who was Orion, who many claimed to be Elvis. That dude was murdered and by the time that happened in 1998, it was too late. Part of the public had already taken the bait and firmly believed that Elvis Presley was, as Orion established back in 1978, Alive Elvis Spotted at Butte, Montana Gas Station Elvis's Tomb is Empty Elvis Dead at 63. That last headline, Elvis Dead at 63, that came in 1998. Elvis Presley would have been 63 years old in 1998. 1998, the same year Orion died. And to put a finer point on it, the same year that Orion was was murdered. More on this incredible story, the story of Orion, the artist who launched the many Elvis is alive conspiracy theories, including the music that Orion made, the life that Orion lived, why folks firmly believed Orion was Elvis, how he ended up on Sun Records, and the true crime that resulted in this musician Orion's death. All that coming up in the exclusive section of this bonus episode. So go to Disgracelandpod.com to sign up to become a member. You can hear this exclusive content and more and unlock ad free listening as well. All right, this week in Disgraceland, we did something different. We previewed the coming season of new episodes that are on their way to you in the next few months. Stories on Johnny Thunders of the New York Dolls, the Runaways, Mia Zapata of the Gits, and a bunch more. If you want to hear all about the approach that we're taking to these subjects and the crimes and the transgressions that we're going to detail, make sure you listen to the latest episode of Disgrace in. Now, coming up in the rewind slot right after this bonus episode, we're diving back into the story of Chet Baker and Chet's mysterious death and life of true crime, a story that happens in and around Chet Baker's incredible output as one of the greatest, I'll say it, one of the greatest voices in jazz music history. I know people don't agree with me on that, but, you know, whatever, we're just gonna have to disagree now. I chose this story to rewind this week because of its similarities with our new Disgraceland episode next week on Johnny Thunders. Johnny Thunders and Chet Baker, both were intense junkies. Both were avatars of musician excess. Both were, as Johnny Thunders famously said, born to lose. And both of their deaths are shrouded in mystery in the case of Chet Baker. I'm not sure anyone really knows how he died, which after all these years is pretty incredible. Now, when you're listening to the Johnny Thunders episode the new one. Be thinking about those first generation punk bands, many of whom loved Chet Baker, by the way. Now of course, Johnny's band, New York Dolls. There's the Sex Pistols, the Ramones, the Stooges, even Velvet Underground. And let me know which of these bands, which of these first generation punk bands you think had the biggest influence on the future of rock and roll? On what rock and roll became after 80s and the 90s and the 2000s and what rock and roll is now? Whose legacy of those first generation punk bands, whose legacy is most important? Was it the New York Dolls? Was it the Stooges? The Ramones? Was it somebody else that I'm not mentioning here? I want to know. Let me know. 617-906-6638 voicemail and text I'm also taking questions on how you think Johnny Thunders died, how you think Chet Baker died. And as always, we're going to feature your answers in next week's After Party bonus episode. Okay, coming up right after this short break, we hear from you with your text, your voicemails, all that stuff. Coming up in just a bit.

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[Jake Brennan]

Foreign. Apple Podcast Listener, Lazy R Squared. If you're listening, get in touch with me. All right, text me 617-906-6638. I saw your review on Apple Podcasts. I thought it was very well said. It spoke to me, and I want to get you some free merch. Same goes for Matt Bell on Spotify, who's been digging into the archive and wrote the following about our Ariana Grande episode. Matt Bell wrote this one was really powerful. My God, well written and well executed. Guys. I'll be thinking about this story today. Matt Bell on Spotify, same goes for you. Hit me up via text, okay? 617-906-6638 and I'll get you some merch. Lazy Air Squared gonna get you some merch as well. We here at Double Elvis appreciate the reviews on Apple Podcast, and not just because I'm an egomaniac narcissist who loves hearing about how fricking awesome I think I am. No, I'm kidding. Though I am certainly that. No, I'm not. But mainly because the real reason is the activity that writing and posting a review creates. It helps the podcast app algorithms better. Rank Disgraceland, and that turns more people onto the show. It helps with discovery. It's super important. So, yeah, the reviews are helpful in addition to stoking our egos. Also, I've got a storage space that I need to downsize, and that means I got to get rid of some of this Disgraceland merch that I have in boxes. I don't have a lot of it. I got some T shirts, I got some pins, I got some books. And I'm not sure what merch you'll get if you leave a review for us. That's right. I'm talking to all of you now. Not just talking to Matt Bell. Not just talking to Lazy R Squared. Talking to all you guys. Leave a review, even if you've left one in the past, leave a new one and it'll pop up at the top of the review feed. That's going to rank Disgraceland higher. It's going to turn more people onto the show. I'm going to see it. And if I read it here next week or in the coming weeks, that means you're going to get some free merch. Now, I can't promise you what that merch will be, but I can Promise you that it will be cool. So leave a review for Disgrace on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Listen to the after party next week. If I read your review, get in touch with me by sending me a text to 617-906-6638 and I will send you some merch. It's that simple. All right, speaking of your texts, the303 writes in Jake literal. LOL. When you said you mix up Bette Midler and Barbra Streisand. I can see it.

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[Jake Brennan]

I can't remember what I was saying this in relation to 303. Was it in relation to Lady Gaga? I can't remember because she kind of reminds me of a modern day version of both, both those incredible artists in her own way. I mean, Lady Gaga is so versatile. I know some of you hear them, they're are you talking about. But I don't know, I see it. I'm reading an incredible book, right? I mentioned earlier that I'm researching Lady Gaga. I'm reading it's the book is so good, so good. Great book called Poker Face the Rise and Rise of Lady Gaga by Maureen Callahan, who I think is just fantastic. And a lot of you may already know this about Lady Gaga, but she's got this fascinating backstory, much of which she's mythologized herself. And there's a lot of sketchy details in there. What's true, what's not, what does she make up, et cetera. But one thing that is for certain is that Lady Gaga was down in the Lower east side of New York in the mid aughts 2006 ish 7 ish 2005, 6 7. In that era, the same era that I was down there playing a bunch of shows, had a bunch of friends who were living down there and a bunch of friends from Boston who were also traveling down there and playing shows. And I know that era and location of New York very well because like I said, it was there in the way that Maureen Callahan, the author here of Poker Her Face, the way she depicts that time and place is as good, if not better, than Meet Me in the Bathroom, which is a fantastic book about that era by Lizzie Goodman, another fantastic author. Like I said, this book, I don't want to say it's better, but it depicts the era in a different way, a completely compelling way. And specifically, I don't know what it was like for you guys, but I remember waking up in like 2006, 2007 and just looking around and going, wait a minute, dance Music is cool with indie kids. How did this happen? Because I've always thought that dance music was cool, but it was something that was completely derided by the underground scene, the underground hardcore, punk, indie scene, et cetera. And then all of a sudden we had, in the early 2000s in New York, you have the whole electro clash thing. But then, you know, by, by the mid 2000s, the mid aughts, I should say, it kind of transitions into this, this dance thing that is no longer ironic. And it was a weird thing that I've never really been able to fully articulate in my head. And Maureen Callahan articulates that transition within the context of Lady Gaga's come up story down there in the Lower east side at that exact moment. It's fascinating. I'm about, I don't know, maybe a third of the way through the book and I can't wait to get back to it later this afternoon. Again, that's Poker Face, the rise and rise of Lady Gaga. I'll have our Lady Gaga episode for you guys in a couple weeks. Can't wait for you to hear that. 617-906-6638. You want to get at me with anything? Voicemail or text the 514 text in. Hey Jake, it's Davis from the 514. Hope all is well and all the best to you and the team at Disgraceland. Looking forward to what's coming our way in 2026. I've been thinking it would be cool to hear an episode about the really important piece of American punk and hardcore history and played a huge role in establishing the DIY touring circuit in the country. Yes, they have. And I really want to do an episode on Black Flag. I also want to do an episode on Henry Rollins himself. And you know, he's, he's not, they're not, neither are on the schedule right now. However, I was looking at the schedule for the middle and later part of the year this morning actually, and I saw a couple artists on there. I was like, I don't know if I want to, I don't want to do that. So maybe Davis, maybe Black Flag will be slotted in instead. Davis, if you or anyone else wants a more formal role in the deciding of what episodes we cover, become a Patreon member. And we're developing a way for us to all be on the after party, get together a couple times a year to meet up and to roll up our sleeves and talk about which episodes we want to talk about. And this is going to give a handful of you, or however many of you who sign up, direct access in the choosing of our programming and which episodes we cover. All right, 8:05 Sherry F. Texts in hey, what actor's death hit me the hardest is Matthew Perry as a baby of Gen X. Friends raised me. I literally have the same tattoo as Rachel, and out of everyone's character, Chandler was the most relatable. It was more than just a show. And reading Matthew's book, you could feel his pain. It took a piece of my adolescence and young adulthood when he passed. And I still get emotional watching him and you can see his pain and growth season to season. That's from Sherry F. In the central coast of California. Sherry Fish, I'm not sure if you're responding to an older after party episode or if you're responding to something that Zeth might have asked in this week's Hollywoodland, which I haven't listened to the whole thing yet. I only listened to the beginning. I know it's on River Phoenix. The the wrap party episode is on the River Phoenix episode of Hollywoodland. Both are in that feed this week. I suspect maybe Zeth posed that question, but I wanted to, I wanted to read your text, Sherry, because I'm not sure if you're aware or not that that we have an episode on Matthew Perry. I'm quite proud of it. It's one of those, you know, I heard this thing the other day. I was at mass actually on Sunday, and I heard part of the homily was that a lot of people think that they need to use their work to do well. And of course that's true. But there's also another piece of our work and that sometimes we can hear. We can hear bigger truths. We can hear directly from the big man through our work. And this Matthew Perry episode that we did was an example of that was an example of me learning a lot. Not only learning a lot about Matthew Perry and about addiction, but also learning a lot about myself and some past grief. And I don't get heavy with any of the me stuff. I'm not in that episode talking about me very much at all, but it really kind of unlocked some things about myself that I wasn't aware of and about this horrible, horrible disease. I think Matthew Perry was a pretty incredible guy beyond his talent. I think what he did for people who suffer from this disease is pretty impressive. And I think the way that he died was pretty disgraceful. And I invite you, Sherry, to check out that episode, if you haven't already. And to anyone who hasn't listened to that episode. Go ahead and listen. I believe it's still in the Disgraceland feed. Not in the Hollywoodland feed. It's in the Disgraceland feed. Just search up Matthew Perry and Matt will have the episode notes for you in the show notes section of this here bonus episode. Speaking of Hollywood land, one thing I have to mention is Zeth, who's doing a real bang up job over there, this happens. He got on the mic to record the wrap party and we sit at these desks and we have multiple microphones set up for multiple things that we're doing. And Seth recorded that entire episode with the wrong mic. So it might sound a little, a little diy. It might sound a little, a little mid aughts Lower east side for you guys. But it's not about the sound. It's about what the man is saying. So if you're hearing that and you're wondering what the hell's going on, it's just, you know, Zeth was using one of his distortion pedals for this episode and you know, sounds pretty badass. So that's what's happening there. But again, it's about what the man was saying. Here's a little taste match. Why don't you give the discos a little taste of what's going on in Hollywoodland in the wrap party this week.

[Zeth Lundy]

In the introduction to this week's full episode on River Phoenix. Hopefully you've heard that already. I'm talking, of course, about the short intros I record for each of our fully scripted sound design episodes that come out on Mondays that are narrated not by me, but by Jake Brennan. I basically, in this intro, quickly made the case for River Phoenix being a one of one, not only an incredible actor, but also that that rare representation of popular culture in the very moment that culture is shifting into something different. For river, it was the transition from the 1980s into the 90s and his screen presence, his taste in the movies and roles he took on, it was that era. He wasn't Corey Feldman or Fred Savage or Alyssa Milano or Drew Barrymore. Absolutely no shade thrown at any of those actors, by the way. But river found a different gear. And I think they would all probably agree with, with that if they were being honest. Probably the actor who comes closest, probably Ethan Hawke, I guess now that I'm thinking more about that. But I stand by what I said about river and I also stand by what I said about how when he died on Halloween night in 1993, and then his death was followed very quickly by the death of. Of Kurt Cobain that something in the culture was forever changed. It was the end of an era, so to speak. A very short era that had barely lasted a decade.

[Jake Brennan]

All right, that is Hollywoodland. Make sure you are subscribed to the Hollywoodland feed on Apple podcasts, Spotify, the iHeartRadio app. Wherever you get your podcasts, you're not only gonna get archive episodes of Hollywoodland with me behind the mic, you're also gonna get our commentary on those episodes. You're gonna get every week, Zeth's wrap party and our new addition to Hollywoodland, the screening room, which is gonna tie everything together for you. Okay? You're gonna get a full week of fantastic movie history and movie analysis from none other than Dr. Zeth Lundy. Subscribe to Hollywoodland. I'll be back in a flash with exciting news for one particular member of the disco community. You're not gonna wanna miss this.

[TJ Watt]

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[Jake Brennan]

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[Jake Brennan]

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[Jake Brennan]

All right, we are halfway through this bonus episode. I gotta say, it's. It's flying by. I'm drinking some incredible coffee.

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[Jake Brennan]

I love that. I love when the espresso machines is working perfectly. It's got the right amount of pressure. The Americano comes out like, mm. It's just like it's a little extra and I can't. I don't know what I did different. Same beans. I've been using for the last week, but this cup of coffee, just magnificent. Anyhow, not what I'm here to talk about. What I'm here to talk about is that last week, if you listened to the after party, you heard me discussing this Disgraceland listener named Mark. Now, Mark wrote in, texted, actually. 617-906-6638. Mark knows the number. Mark texted and shared a playlist that he's been curating that is a collection of all the songs mentioned in our episodes of Disgraceland, going all the way back to episode one. This is incredible. This is so much work. This playlist is amazing. I shouldn't say it's all the songs. Excuse me, he hasn't finished this yet. Okay, but again, Mark is pulling every tune that we mentioned that he can find on Apple Music, every tune that we mention in our episodes, and putting them into what is so far a 10 hour playlist. Now, I just checked the playlist again a moment ago on Apple Music and it's already been updated today. All right, here's just a handful. Let's talk a handful of songs that are on this playlist. And again, it's not just songs by the artist. It's not just the number one songs that I mentioned. Although they're all in there. Okay, let's just see. Gloria by Them, Waterfalls by tlc. Let's talk about Sex by Salt N Pepa, Cocksucker Blues by the Rolling Stones, Shape of youf by Ed Shearing, the Race by Tay K, Night Fever by Bee Gees, you and I by Rick James, I'm Too Sexy by Rightsead Fred, Territorial Pissings by Nirvana, the Sign by Ace of Bass. I mean, this goes on and on and on. Grateful Dead, Post Malone, XXXTentacion, Drake, Amy Winehouse, the Beatles. Just an incredible playlist that is encompassing the world that we have built here in Disgraceland. I'm going to share this playlist in the Patreon chat for our All Access members to grab and I'll share it on Instagram, perhaps X as well, later this week. Now, Mark, he writes, is a courier who drives 2,500 miles a week and boasts an oil change every two weeks. So dude has some time to listen to some Disgrace Land and he's putting it to good use. Mark, I'm super grateful, man. Mark writes that, hey, I'm absolutely going to keep going with the playlist. It's such a cool cross section of popular music. Like, if the guy from High Fidelity was alive today, this would be the record collection he's snorting Sorting. Excuse me. Wait, the guy from High Fidelity died? He didn't die, but I know what you mean. Anyhow. Yeah, I love that. I could hear. I could see those dudes in High Fidelity listening to this playlist in Champion Records. They're a record store. Or is it Top five records? I can't remember. I think it's Champion, isn't it? I don't know. Someone let me know. 617906-6638. Maybe Mark, you can. No, Mark, you got. Sounds like you got a lot to do anyhow. Again, I'm putting Mark's playlist in the Patreon chat or I'm gonna make it a post. I'm not sure which, but you'll be able to get it there on Patreon. And Mark, we're gonna gift you a year long subscription to Patreon so you can listen ad free and you can engage with your fellow Disgrace and All Access members in the community chat. Hear what they have to say about your playlist. We're so grateful that you did this. This is incredible. And I want the rest of the community to have access to it. And for that I hope you were giving you the subscription. I hope you enjoy it. Speaking of All Access membership and members, I would like to shout out new Disgraceland All Access member Jessica Brown, who is supporting us as a Sound in Fury member at her $10 tier. And as such, Jessica will be rece our new monthly video podcast. This film should be played loud in a couple weeks. The next movie soundtrack and score that we are covering is train spotting. Jessica will be first in line to receive that. Jessica, thank you for your support. We appreciate you. Everyone else, be like Jessica. Sign up for our Sound and Fury tier on Patreon so you too can watch and listen and watch though you can watch it. This film should be played loud. You also get to help me determine which subjects we're going to cover next in Disgraceland. And as I mentioned before, you get ad free listening and all other exclusive Disgraceland content, mini episodes and of course the exclusive section of this after party which is coming up right now. Disgraceandpod.com to become an All Access member. Disgraceand cop that exclusive ad free community content like who the hell was Orion and why did Elvis's former record label release Orion's records and how did Orion die? And why is it that I'm hearing this Orion insanity now and I haven't heard it before? Because this right here, Disgraceland is where all the music history insanity lives and breeze and we're going to get into it right now. All right, guys, welcome back. As you know, We've got over 250 episodes in the Disgraceland archive. I mentioned, I mentioned the Matthew Perry episode, which I encourage you to check out. I also mentioned, mentioned the Ramones, mentioned the Stooges. We don't have a Stooges episode, but we have an Iggy Pop episode. Matt's gonna have info, show info for all these archive episodes in the show notes, so you can easily navigate your way through the archive to listen to any of our past episodes. All right, let's recap, shall we? Number one, this week we are previewing the next season of subjects in Disgraceland. Number two, our rewind episode this week is on Chet Baker. Number three, next week a new epis your way on Johnny Thunders of the New York Dolls. Number four, zest gives you those Hollywood and crime vibes in Hollywoodland, so make sure you're subscribed. Number five, this film should be played loud. Our new video podcast with our new episode on Goodfellas is available for you right now. We got a new one coming up on train spotting in a couple weeks. Gonna be a Patreon member to cop that. So go to Disgracelandpod.com to become part of the Disgraceland community. Number 661-790-6668. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history, Orion. So keep call your answers to this week's question of the week or with whatever else you want to talk about. Don't forget discos. This isn't just content, it's a community. A community of the obsessed. No one cares about music, books, records and the crime and grime that ties them all together like you do. And well, that's a disgrace. All right. The King Elvis Presley died for real. He really did. He died on August 16, 1977. And here's what America was listening to on that day. Number one, best of my love, the emotions. Last week one weeks on chart 12 peak position one. Number two jet airliner Steve Miller band last week two weeks on chart 12. Peak position eight number three looking for a love Bobby Womack on Valentinos. Last week four weeks on chart 11 peak positions five. Number four what you gonna do Pablo Cruz. Last week's five weeks on chart 11 peak position five number five, you and me, Alice Cooper. Last week number nine weeks on chart eight peak position number.

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[Jake Brennan]

Cut it.