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Bonus Episode: Let’s Make a Non Traditional Christmas Mix and Load the Chamber for Russian Roulette
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Jake Brennan
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Hey Discos. Need a little more Disgraceland in your life? Just a touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland. The after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the Afterparty. This is the show after the show. The party after the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode we are discussing your favorite non traditional Christmas songs and we're making a great Christmas mix along with our conversation. In the exclusive portion, we're going to get into band and obscene Christmas tunes. What's up Blow Fly? We get into Your emails, comments, DMs and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told. The kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, Discos, listen, let's get into it, Man. You guys love non traditional Christmas songs. That was our question of the week last week here in the afterparty and that was our question on social media. And we were flooded with responses from you guys both on over the phone in the comments on Patreon. So we're going to do something a little different this week. We're going to dedicate most, if not all of this episode to your responses and try to build a kickass non traditional Christmas mix. So let's get right into it. All right? Some of the non traditional Christmas songs I suggested were Christmas Must Be Tonight by the band, which I talked about last week in the afterparty, and it was kind of the impetus for. For this whole conversation. I also mentioned on Social, I mentioned Winterman by Clarence Reed. This song, I can't recommend the song highly enough. It's incredible. All right, but anyways, let's get into some of your recommendations. And the goal here is to sort of informally throw a bunch of wrecks into the mix, bunch of songs, and then call them down into a side one and a side two track listing for. For you guys. And we can put a little mix together. We can share on Spotify and wherever else. All right, so let's get right into it. Gooseberg on Instagram recommended Christmas was better in the 80s by the future Heads. Future Heads are a great modern ish UK band who we've talked about before. This song does not disappoint. It's fantastic. Check it out. Christmas was better in the 80s by the future Heads. Ellie Ordez on Patreon suggested God rest you Married Gentlemen by Black Sabbath's Maroni, James Dio and Tony Iommi, which I had no idea existed. This is deliciously weird and totally worthy of your time and this is going on the mix. 2000 miles by pretenders was recommended by a couple of you. I really love this song and it seems like I forget about it every year. So thank you guys for calling it out. Jackie over in the Patreon chat brought up another tune that I never ever think to listen to during the holidays, but it's a tremendous non traditional Christmas song and that's Christmas Card to a Hooker in Minneapolis by Tom Waits. Man, the electric piano sound in this song, I just. I love it. I love it. Just makes me feel like the 1970s are swallowing me up. Charlie, I'm pregnant, living on 9th street above a dirty bookstore on Euclid Avenue. And I stopped taking dope and quit taking whiskey. And my old man plays a trombone and works out at the track. He says that he loves me even though it's not his baby. He says that he'll raise him up like he would his own son. And he gave me a ring that was worn by his mother and he takes me out dancing every Saturday night. God, what lyrics, huh? This isn't a song, guys. This is a movie, all right? And it's a movie that I want to see on Christmas. Christmas Card to a hooker in Minneapolis by Tom Waits. And while we're talking about Tom Waits, the Tom waits and Shane McGowan in Elvis Costello's story that's in our mini episode this week is an incredible slice of weird music history. You gotta be an All Access member to check that out, so go to Disgracelandpod.com to sign up for exclusive content like the mini episodes that we release pretty much every week. You also get ad free listening on all Disgraceland and Hollywoodland episodes. And I think Zeth figured out a way for you guys to gift Disgraceland Patreon memberships to your friends and family for the holidays. You can now become a member for just a dollar a month. And of course there are $5 and 10 dol as well, with all kinds of different benefits that you guys can gift to others. You can give the gift of Disgraceland in an all Access membership. So check that out@gracelandpod.com back to our mix Fairy Tale of New York by this week's full episode subject, the Pogues. Goes without saying that this is on our playlist. M. Vaughn 2013-2015 on Instagram recommends Sufian Stevens, Put the Lights on the Tree. This song is fantastic. And I just gotta say I hope I'm pronouncing Sufjan Stevens correctly. I don't think I am, but I don't care to go to Google and look it up. I just, you know, Sufjan, if you're listening, know that I'm pimping out your. Your five disc Christmas album, man. Okay? Five discs and it's. It's damn good. Fantastic. And MVON2013 2015 is not the only one who thinks so. Received a bunch of recommendations for songs from Sufjan Stevens's five disc Christmas album and Put the Lights on the Tree is the one that I'm. I'm going with. Okay. Heather the Yinzer on Patreon recommends Careless Santa by the great Lincoln Sudbury High School band They Might be Giants. This song gets special consideration not only because these dudes are from Massachusetts, but because it's got a heavy crime element to it as well. And I, I didn't know about this tune, not at all. But I did know about Horatio Sands in Julian Casablancas. I don't care what your mama says. Christmas time is here and I'm throwing that one into the mix. And now we've got 10 songs for our side one. All right, we just ripped through 10 there pretty quickly and we haven't yet mentioned not even one band Christmas song or potentially banned Christmas or censored Christmas song. This is a weird list. People get uptight about Christmas songs, man. Whether it's seemingly innocuous tune like it's Beginning to look a lot like Christmas or I saw mommy kissing Santa Claus or perhaps something a little more explicit from the likes of Eazy E or Blowfly even, we're going to be talking about some of our more innocuous Christmas songs that were banned or censored from music history. And we're going to give you a list of those tunes. You know, we'll add some others too, that I don't want to say are worthy of being censored, but there's a list of absolutely filthy Christmas songs that are not only risque but they're kind of hilarious. And we're going to get into these as well and also going to talk about the new viral deepfake Ella Fitzgerald so called banned Christmas song that's going to show up in your feed today, no doubt as you're scrolling the gram and TikTok all that's coming in the exclusive section of today's after party. Go to disgraceandpod.com to sign up and become a Disgraceand All Access Member to get in on this conversation. All right, speaking of Christmas songs that should be banned, we've got Miss All I Want for Christmas, Mariah Carey coming up in the rewind slot tomorrow and then next week when Christmas finally gets here on Tuesday. Not that Christmas is on Tuesday, but on Tuesday in the Disgraceland feed, we're going to be celebrating by playing Russian roulette with Johnny Ace and none other than Elvis Presley, the King himself. So don't miss those episodes. Next after this break, we're going to get into your voicemails, in your texts, in your emails, and we're going to figure out side two of our non traditional Christmas list. Don't go anywhere back after this. Tonight, Avatar Fire and Ash arrives in theaters.
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All right guys, we are back. Last segment I mentioned our Elvis Presley Johnny Ace episode and I wanted to mention that a couple days ago I went onto the excellent podcast Ridiculous History and talked to my guys Noel and Ben about the Johnny Ace story. That episode is available wherever you get your podcasts, so check that out. Pledging My Love the Johnny Ace song deserves to go on our list for sure. It is unintentionally Christmas, and that's what happens when you accidentally shoot yourself in the head on Christmas at the same exact time you release your new single. That single becomes an unintentional Christmas song. All right? So pledge him my love. The song by Johnny Ace and the Elvis Presley cover, the subject of next week's Disgraceland episode. Both versions have made our Christmas mix. And just for the record, I found a great copy of Johnny Ace's memorial album, the record featuring Pledging My Love that was released after his death. I was up in Boston last weekend, visited Stereo Jacks in Somerville and damn man. Anyone from Boston, Somerville, Cambridge, you want. You want to know what a great record store is? Go to Stereo Jack's in Somerville. And I don't mean I'm not going by vibe, though the vibe is great. I'm going by just the collection, the volume what's available. My goodness, it's tremendous. I spent an obscene amount of money now granted, I bought a ton of records for Christmas gifts. So that's. I only bought. I bought like, I bought the Johnny Ace record for myself. Bought myself an old Boston, Boston rock Christmas compilation with SSD and the Del Fuegos on it, which I didn't know existed. And I got this fantastic Dave Brubeck Christmas album from 1996 that I had no idea existed. Matt Bowden, you gotta check this out. You probably already have it. If you guys are into, into jazz and you want to hear like really unique, unique takes on, on traditional Christmas songs. This Brubeck double album of Christmas jams from 1996, I think it's just called the Dave Brubeck Christmas is great. I got that at Stereo Jacks as well. And then I just, I just bought a bunch of blues records for my stepdad and a bunch of soul and R and B records for my mom. Got my godson something, got my godmother something, got a bunch of stuff, but just Stereo Jacks. If you haven't been in a while, if you just remember the sign from Mass Ave in Cambridge between, between Harvard and Porter Square and you're like, yeah, I know that place that sounds familiar. And you think you know what it is. You don't know. Like, go, go. It has so, so much. It's incredible. Check it out. All right, let's check out your. Let's. Let's get to some voicemails and calls here. 617-90-6666. The call was put out last week on. We're talking about the band. Must be Christmas tonight. Christmas Must be Tonight. And we're talking about non traditional Christmas songs. And you guys got back to me full throated. Let's hear from the 206.
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Tony (Caller)
Jake. Hey, what's going on? It's Tony from the 206. I'm going to go ahead and get right to answer your question what my favorite Christmas song is. I actually have two that are fighting for the number one spot and not just of my favorite Christmas song, but arguably the most obscure Christmas song. Meaning you gotta dive deep to find these. A casual Christmas music listener nine times out of ten hasn't heard these. But the first one is thank God It's Christmas by Queen, which is a phenomenal song. The second one was actually a B side by the artist himself, Prince. It's called Another Lonely Christmas, which in my opinion is kind of his version of Blue Christmas if you listen to it. So I'm gonna issue a challenge, my brother. I want you to listen to both songs and hopefully you'll give me your thoughts on them when you do your bonus episode this week. I'd love to hear your. Your thoughts on both those songs, if you have or if you haven't heard them. And then also one more thing I wanted to say. If Mariah Carey is the queen of Christmas, I think it's only right. We give George Michael the title of king every year we hear last Christmas. So I think it's only right. All right, brother. Well, listen, Merry Christmas, Happy holidays to you and yours. Stay safe out there and stay warm. Rock and roll.
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Tony, two great recommendations here. Of the two I'd heard the queen, one never heard the prince one. Went and went and checked it. I love the prince thing here. It's fantastic. It's just weird enough for. For Prince and just weird enough, I think, to not be a hit and. But it's great and I love it. And it's going on the mix. And we'll put both of them on the mix. 4, 1, 2. Text in. Let's read this one here. I want to read the whole thing here, not just the recommendation. 412 writes in. Hey, probably the best monologue yet. Shane made the most amazing Christmas song of decades. My favorite cover of the McGowan Fairy Tale of New York is in A very merry Christmas, the late, great buster David. He's talking about David Johansson and the annoyingly lovable Paul. Good job, bro. Okay, so, yeah, very Merry Christmas is fantastic. And the David Johansson stuff is especially great in that movie. So hold on. Someone else recommended. Does David Johansson. Yeah, David Johansson cover I saw the light in that. The Rudgren tune. I believe someone else recommended that to us. That's kind of an unintentional Christmas song, but I like it. I like it. So both are going on the mix. All right, let's check out the text here. I wrote down from the 309. Jake. It's Ryan from the 309, and I don't have a topic, but in lieu of Christmas season, there's a Christmas song. I'm not sure you're gonna know of it, but it's by Blink182 and it's off their T take off your pants and jacket album. The song is called Happy holidays, you bastard. Give it a listen. Happy Holidays Jake and the rest of the double Elvis family. I am familiar with the song and I love it. We're gonna put that on the mix as well. Little Blink 182. Shout out Tom DeLonge. Shout out to all the aliens out there. All the extraterrestrials, all the ultra terrestrials. Happy holidays, guys. I know you're watching and listening. 971 texts in hey Jake, Jeff here from Oregon. This may be late, but a good, great, very unknown Christmas album that I love is Chet Baker's masterpiece, Silent Nights. All that I know is that it was released in 1986, it isn't available on Spotify due to some licensing nonsense, and it sounds like a cry for help or drug money. That sounds like Chet Baker crying for help and drug money. Some songs feel rushed and scattered and others are coated in that sugary, thick bourbon esque Chet Baker feel. In other words, it's fantastic. Good luck finding a copy though. Merry Christmas, Jake. Well, you know, maybe I can find it at that's Stereo Jacks. Feels like the type of record they'd have there. 971 thanks for the recommendation. Appreciate it. 907 Text in Hey Jake, here's another Christmas song that is not on most people's radar. Emmanuel, you're One of Us by Ren Collective featuring Ellie Holcomb. It came out in 2020 as part of a compilation album called A Jolly Irish Christmas, Volume 2. It stopped me in my tracks when I heard it. I thought of it when you told us about Christmas. Must be tonight during the last After Party episode. This is Lisa from the 907. Lisa from the 907, thanks very much. Great recommend and throw that one on the list here. 775 writes in and reminds us of the Squirrel Nut Zipper song Johnny Ace Christmas. We know what that's in reference to, guys. All right, so it looks like we need two more to give us a total of 10 more songs. For side B, let's go to the old email machine. This one from Scott Ward who writes in Jake, you magnificent bastard, my choice is one you mentioned in the recent Merle Haggard episode, if we make it Through December. Yes, it appeared on hag's Christmas album, but the single was released in October and country radio played it year round back during hag's heyday. That's my choice. Thanks for what you do. I'm asking for a subscription as a gift this season. Love that Scott Ward. We will see you in the exclusive section of the After Party and in the Patreon chat. And yeah, of course, Hags, if We Make It Through December is going on the list. Craig Cannon emails us. Craig says, hey, good day mate. Thank you from Australia for such a great podcast. I'm sure it's been mentioned before, but would like to add again an Aussie's favorite Paul Kelly's how to Make Gravy. It's very Australian and well worth the mention from across the other side of the world. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Or should I say Merry syphilis and a happy gonorrhea. Craig well, well put there at the end. Craig yeah, I love this Paul Kelly tune. It was brought to my attention a couple years ago by our Australian listeners. Might have just been last year, fairly recently. Great song and absolutely going on the mix. Paul Kelly's how to make gravy 617-906-6638 voicemail and text disgracelandpod.com hit me on the socials disgracelandpodgmail.com to email me. What I'd like for you guys to think about this week is, you know, this is great. I love the non traditional Christmas music, but we got one more week of of content here before Christmas and we're going to get into the after party next week, which I think falls on Christmas Day. Is that right? Or is it the day after Christmas? Let's see here. Thursday is no Christmas Day. Christmas day after party. So what I want to talk about is unintentional Christmas songs. Somebody last week mentioned God Only Knows by the Beach Boys as an unintentional Christmas song and I can get with that. I can also get with the Johnny Ace Pledge of My Love and There's probably about 10 others we can get to or 20. There's a ton. Just as Die Hard as an unintentional Christmas movie. Just as Goodfellows is an unintentional Christmas movie. What are some unintentional Christmas or holiday songs? 617-906-6638 voicemail and text disgraceandpod on disgraceampada Gmail.com via email to hit me up with your answers Now. I will be back right after this with the track listing for this new mix of non traditional Christmas songs. This playlist that we're we're making here and I'll have information on where you can find this playlist and where you can listen to it back after this.
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Jake Brennan
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John Legend, Sheryl Crow, Elvis Costello and Alanis Morissette star in the MGM original series. Words and Music. Iconic artists share intimate performances and the stories behind the songs. New episodes, Sundays on mgm. All right, thanks to everybody who submitted songs. We've got 20 songs now, and here's how I'm sequencing them for our new mix entitled A Non Tradition Christmas in Disgraceland. Side one, we're gonna kick it off with Fairy Tale of New York by the Pogues. Then we're gonna lean into Another Lonely Christmas by Prince. Straight into 2000 miles by the Pretenders. From there, we head down under to how to Make Gravy with Paul Kelly. Christmas was better in the 80s by the future Heads. Put the Lights on the Tree by Sufjan Stevens. A Christmas Treat by Julian Casablancas, Johnny Yates. Christmas by Squirrel Nut Zippers. And then we end side one with Pledging My Love by Johnny Yates. All right, that's a hell of a side one of non traditional Christmas songs. Side two, leading off in the number one spot, taking us all the way home, the band with Christmas Must Be Tonight. Next up, Winterman by Clarence Reed. Straight into Christmas Card to A Hooker in Minneapolis by Tom Waits. Careless Santa by They Might Be Giants. I Saw the Light, Todd Rundgren, thank God It's Christmas by Queen God Resty Mary, gentlemen, Dio, Ronnie James Dio, that is. And Tony Iommi into Emmanuel. You're One of Us, Ren Collective and Ellie Holcomb. If we Make It Through December by Merle Haggard. And we end our mix with the King himself, his cover of Johnny Aces Pledging My Love. All right, this mix is done. It's up. I'll post a link to the playlist on our Patreon. Or you can just follow Disgraceland Pod on Spotify and you can cop it there. I'll probably get it up on Instagram as well. But again, Patreon, if you really want to dive in. Speaking of Patreon, have you guys seen our new video podcast? This film should be played loud. This is a new monthly video podcast that I am doing with Dr. Zeth Lundy where we discuss the convergence of our two favorite things, music and film. We pick one movie per episode. Our inaugural episode was on Goodfellas and we go through the soundtrack and. Or the score if there is one. All the great needle drops. All the fantastic moments in these films that we love. These moments, however, that are elevated by incredible music. Okay, we did Goodfellas. That was the first one. I'm not sure what we're doing for next month's episode. I'm not sure which movie we're gonna cover, so hit us up with some recommendations. We've talked a lot about Dazed and Confused, train spotting, Rachel getting married. What else do we discuss? All quiet on the Western front. This is a whole bunch of movies that we could do here. Pulp Fiction, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, all the great Tarantino movies. Anyways, this film should be played loud. That's the name of this new podcast where it's video podcast again, and we're bringing it to you once a month. You gotta be a Patreon member to cop that, which is easy to do. Just go to disgraceandpod.com to sign up and become an All Access member today so you don't miss an episode of any of our exclusive content. All right, why don't we give you guys a little taste of this film should be played Loud. Matt, go ahead and give him a little clip. So in. Just like the rolling stones in 1990 were dead. Clapton was nothing in 1990. Yeah, I mean, the lamest. You know, like, my friend's dad's, like Derek Clapton. You know what I mean?
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It was that whole. We joke about this, but it's. That whole divorce rock era really is. What's that. What was that record he had out? It was Promises.
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No, that's not the one. It's. It's Promises. He is a song promise. I love that. I love that. Now, that's the thing.
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No, I do, too. On. But he had a. He, like. He had this incredible divorce rock record out at that time. Journeyman came out in 1989. Journeyman had pretending, Running On Faith, Bad Love, no Alibis. This was like the super slick AOR Eric Clapton, which. Which sort of made him super lame.
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Yeah, the. The. I think the I Shot the Sheriff stuff is like, 1980, 1981. That's okay. And then it's bad. And then he has a Scorsese like, Rise Again with Color of Money, Which is also lame. I was like, this is like a Miller, like, commercial.
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Well, I know, but that.
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That's.
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That's what makes that movie so great. It's like the Phil Collins song in that movie as well. Like, it makes that. It's of that time, you know?
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Yeah, yeah. Color of Money is. It's.
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It's Essential. It's amazing.
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Essential.
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Really, it's essential. It's essential. Scores easy.
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Yes. Yeah, it's. It. You know, Tom Cruise could have done nothing after that, and we would have been like, tom Cruise is the man.
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He's amazing in that.
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He's incredible. All that's real, the whole thing. We're getting off track with Vince and.
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Just the fact that he's playing. We don't have to go in the weeds about this, but he's playing. Paul Newman thinks he's playing Tom Cruise. And Tom Cruise has been playing Paul Newman the whole movie. It's just awesome.
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It is so good. It's so damn good. All right, that is. This film should be played loud. You can hear that. Excuse me. You can watch that on patreon. Go to disgraceandpod.com to sign up. In addition to having access to this new exclusive content, you're also going to get access to the extension extended after party bonus content. In today's all access portion of the afterparty, Zeth and I are discussing banned and censored Christmas songs, as well as some pretty explicit Christmas tunes that perhaps. Well, I guess you could justify it. If not justify it, you could understand if somebody wanted to ban. I'm never for banning or censoring anything. But anyhow, we're gonna get into all this. Some of it's maddening and frustrating and some of it is hysterical. And I have some fun with my man Seth here. That's coming up right now. All right, welcome back. We're about to land this plane. Before we do, I should mention that we talked about Ronnie James Dio and we talked about Tony Iommi from Black Sabbath, and there is a Black Sabbath episode in the archive for you to check out out right now. Also, we. We talked about Tom Waits. We don't have a Tom Waits episode. We mentioned Tom Waits because we're talking about Christmas Card from Hooker in Minneapolis. But there's this great Tom Waits story, involves Elvis Costello and Shane McGowan. That's part of our mini episode from this week. And you're going to want to hear that. I got to get out of here. This episode is. Well, I was supposed to be done with it like 30 minutes ago, so I get a split. Anyhow, let's recap real quick. All right, number one, this week's episode on Shane McGowan is available for you all right now in the feed. Number two, we got a new mini episode, like I just mentioned, on Shane McGowan, but with Tom Waits and Elvis Costello that's available for all Access members. Rewind episode on Mariah Carey coming up right after this. And next week, we've got our Johnny Ace and Elvis Presley and Russian roulette on Christmas Episode number five, Zeth is going to give you all those Hollywood and crime vibes in Hollywoodland. Check that out. Make sure you subscribe to that show. 6. This film should be played loud. Our new show with our new episode on the Goodfellas. Did I say the Goodfellas? The Goodfellas on Goodfellas is is available right now. You gotta be a Patreon member to cop that. So go to disgraceandpod.com to sign up. Number 761-790-66638. Your voice, it keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history. So keep calling texting with your answers, this week's question of the week or with whatever else you want to talk about. Number eight don't forget this goes. This isn't just content. It community. A community of the obsessed. No one cares about music, books, records and the crime and grime that ties them all together like you do. And, well, that's a disgrace. All right. Shane McGown, the Barstool King of Christmas, died on November 30, 2023. Here's what America was listening to on that day, according to the billboard charts. Number 1 Cruel Summer Taylor Swift Last Week 1 Weeks on Chart 28 Peak Position 1 Number 2 Lovin on Me Jack Harlow Last week new weeks on chart 2 peak position 1 number 3 paint the town red doja cat last week two weeks on chart 15 peak position 1 number 4 snooze last year four weeks on chart 49 peak position 2 number 5. Quit talking and start mixing. Cut it.