Jake Brennan (Disgraceland Host) (3:07)
Hey discos, need a little more Disgrace Land in your life? Just a touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgrace Land. The afterpar. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the After Party. This is the show after the show. The party after the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other the backyard to dig into the dirt on this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's full episode subject on Bjork. We are previewing the coming episode on the who in the Riverfront Coliseum disaster talking I'm so obsessed with you blues. And we go through your voicemails, text, DMs, emails, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. All right, discos, let's get into it. So Ricardo Lopez was obsessed with Bjork and nearly killed her. As we just heard in this week's full episode. Mark David Chapman was obsessed with John Lennon and did indeed kill the coolest beetle, Nathan Gale was obsessed with Pantera and he shot and murdered their guitar player, Dimebag Darrell when Dime was on stage with his other band, Damage Plan. Coincidentally on the same date that John Lennon was murdered, December 8th. Also the same day that Jim Morrison was born. Anyways, this theme of obsession got me thinking about musicians and their obsession. So flipping it. So these everything I just talked about was about fans being obsessed with rock stars. This is about musicians who themselves are obsessed. Okay? And I thought about how obsessed Kurt Cobain was with Courtney Love. It's something that I don't think gets enough coverage, but I found it when I was researching Nirvana for the two episodes that we did in Nirvana. You could see, it's clear as day, the dude was obsessed with her. And there's a lot of his writings that depict his obsession. So some people would ask, was Kurt even obsessed With Courtney. And the answer, I think, is absolutely, yes, he was. Here's an example. In one journal entry of Kurt's, he writes about Courtney. Courtney, this is a quote. Courtney, when you're not around, I literally can't breathe. I can't think. I feel like a lost child looking for its mother in a department store. I ache for you. I need you so fucking bad it scares me. I want to crawl inside your body and live there. Now, of course, Kurt Cobain was a total mess when he died, aside from his relationship with Courtney Love, that, depending on who you talk to, will be described to you as being toxic or damaged at the time, or it's hard to depict that relationship without negativity at the end. And Kurt was, of course, depressed and heavily addicted to drugs and had been for some time. And that means, you know, his brains were kind of like oatmeal. But all that said, I often think, what would have happened if Kurt Cobain didn't kill himself? How would it have gone for Kurt? And in this context, I'm thinking, how. How would his obsession with Courtney Love have played out, not just in his relationship, but in his career? I have thoughts. None of them are good, but I want to keep going down this obsession rabbit hole with you guys and where the Nirvana where the Kurt Cobain of it all led me. There aren't any Nirvana songs that I can think of that deal with the type of obsession that we're talking about. Maybe there are. I didn't really research it. I was just thinking off the top of my head. But it got me thinking, what are some of the other tunes of some other songs of obsession from artists that are. That are bordering on the creepy, okay. Songs of obsession that are bordering on the creepy, okay? Well, speaking of John Lennon, there's Run for your life with its I'd rather see you dead, little girl than to be with another man. Now, John Lennon later said, of course, that he regretted writing that song. And I always saw the song as sort of a product of the times. And if you're going to indict anyone here, I'm not letting John Lennon completely off the hook, but you got to indict the times, okay? John said he regretted it. He always said he regretted that song. And again, I think it's more about the time that the songwriter was working in more than it is an actual statement about a woman that the songwriter was thinking about. And again, I'm not excusing John Lennon. I'm not excusing it, but we got to take into context, the era. That lyric, I'd rather see you dead, little girl, than to be with another man. It is hardly I want to fuck you like an animal by Trent Reznor, which. I'm not sure if Obsession was on Trent's mind when he wrote that lyric or not, but one could sure as hell make the case. I love that song, by the way. But, you know, taken literally, kind of fucked up. Also, I'm pretty sure Marilyn Manson claims that he wrote that lyric that he gave Trent that idea. That's a whole other wormhole. But let's stay in the creepy obsession song wormhole for a minute, okay? And thinking about this, I came across. I don't know why, but Sarah McLachlan just. She cracks me up. I don't know why. She's like the most self serious, least funny person out there. Although she was in an episode of Portlandia, so I got to give her some credit. But anyway, Sarah McLaughlin, check this out. This is so fucked up. Sarah McLachlan had a super fan, an obsessed fan, a computer programming fan from Canada. Okay, so I'm assuming a nerd. And he wrote her all these creepy letters. Very, very disturbing stuff. Sarah McLachlachlan then took some of the stalker's own words from those letters and use them in a song that she wrote about obsession called Possession. The Stalker. This is where it gets weird. The stalker then sued Sarah McLachlan for plagiarizing his words, which she admitted she had done. Well, she didn't admit plagiarism, but she admitted she used the words. Wasn't like she was plagiarizing on purpose. Trying to pass it off as her own work, you know, to kind of get by on people. She was blurring her life with her art in a pretty awesome way, I would say. And also, obviously very creepy in a good way. But to make the story even weirder, the case that was brought by the stalker against Sarah McLachlan was never resolved because the stalker killed himself. Super dark. Super dark. Sarah McLachlan dark. Her music's dark, too. Her shit's dark. Really is for somebody so innocent looking. By the way, there's a fantastic video going around the Internet of these two dudes at this. At a karaoke club. And they get up to sing whatever song Sarah McLaughlin uses in that commercial she does with the dogs that she's trying to save, where the dogs are all in cages and the dogs are all beat, beat to shit. And you know, she's. This is her charity, this is the thing she's doing. And I'm not making fun of it. It's a great thing that she's doing, whatever this foundation is. But we've all seen this commercial, I think, and you know, Sarah, in addition to the images of the dogs, which are truly horrific, Sarah McLaughlin, in a very obviously self serious kind of way, is given the VO on the trauma these dogs are facing and why people need to send their money to this foundation. So back to this video that's going around the Internet, which is hysterical. These two dudes are at a karaoke bar and they get up and they choose this song. And one dude is singing the Sarah McLachlan part and the other dude. Dude is reading the VO from the commercial about the dogs and the reaction on the people's face in the karaoke. It's just fucking priceless. It's so good. Google that. All right. What other songs. What other creepy obsession songs are there inspired here by Bjork and Ricardo Lopez? There's Stan, of course, by your favorite and mine, apparently, Eminem. We all know that song, so I'm not going to go into it here. There's a ton of these that we know about One Way or Another by Blondie, which those lyrics deserve. Another look. Okay, check those out. Another listen. Every Breath youh Take by the Police. That's not even worth mentioning. It's so overplayed. But check out Tom Jones's Delilah. All right, where the POV from the singer and the song is about murdering a woman for Literally murdering a woman for being with someone else. Tom Jones, I didn't know you had it in you. One more here. Okay. And this is a great song with or without the obsession context here. Frankie Teardrop by Suicide. Great, great, great song. And super creepy. Now, it's. It's more of a modern murder ballad than it is a song about obsession. But it's got a lot of obsession in it, and it's just damn good. And if you don't know the song, it is a great introduction into one of the coolest bands to ever do it. A band who influenced everyone from Bruce Springsteen to Radiohead. Okay. Actually, this is reminding me of one more song about obsession I mentioned, murder ballads. So Knoxville Girl by Leuven Brothers is a murder ballad, and it is clearly about obsession. Lots of versions of Knoxville Girl, including one by the Lemonheads, but the Leuven Brothers is the best version. Knoxville Girl might be the song that got me into country music and super stoked my love for music and crime. It's the story of one man being obsessed with a woman and not being able to deal in. Well, I don't want to spoil it for you, but go check it out. Go listen to Knoxville girl and listen to the Louvin Brothers version of it, all right? L O U V I N Leuven. And speaking of the Lemonheads, their new single, it's really fucking good. It's called Deep End. Jay Maskus and Juliana Hatfield are on the track and it rocks. It's fantastic. Can't wait for the full album. Dando, bring it. All right. Thank you, Bjork, for sending us down this obsession rabbit hole. Check out the Bjork episode if you haven't already released it, just this week. Also this week we've got our rewind episode coming up next right after this episode. And that's on Amy Winehouse. Speaking of obsession, Blake Fielder much, Amy. And then next week we've got our new episode on the who coming. No obsession here. This is a part two of sorts. It's a continuation of the who story that we started a while ago that centered around Keith Moon. Part 2 episode deals with the Riverfront Coliseum tragedy, commonly referred to as, by mistake, as a stampede. It was not a stampede. You have to listen to hear what I'm talking about and hear what this actually was. But when you're listening to the who episode, be thinking about all the tragedies that we've talked about from rock and roll history. We've talked about a lot of them and let me know, or anyone can be any rock and roll tragedy, even ones we haven't talked about and let me know if the who Riverfront tragedy is the worst rock and roll tragedy in music history and if not, what is. All right. We could do a whole season on this. I'm not going to, but it's interesting to talk about because the details horrific and just very vivid and great for storytelling. So call me with your answers or text them into me. 617-906-6638. You might hear your voice and or your answer on next week's bonus afterparty episode. You can also DM me your answers to the question of the week at disgracelandpod on the socials. Man, I got this song in my head right now. Gotta have faith, gotta have that, gotta be wiser. What is that? What is that song? It sounds like a friggin 90 sitcom. What is that? What is that song? I don't hate it, but something tells me I hated it a long time ago. Let me know what I'm thinking about all right, I got to take a quick break. I need a drink. Clearly you can probably hear it in my voice and I will be back in a flash with answers to your questions on the question of the week last week regarding Itty Bitty Bjork. And we will have your voicemails, your calls, your DMS emails and more. I'll be back in a flash.
