Bonus Episode: Punk Albums By Artists Who Weren’t Punk, and Rolling Stone Rage Baits All Punk Rockers Everywhere, and Weezer is coming to Disgraceland

Summary

DISGRACELAND – Bonus Episode: Punk Albums By Artists Who Weren’t Punk, and Rolling Stone Rage Baits All Punk Rockers Everywhere, and Weezer is coming to Disgraceland

Podcast: DISGRACELAND
Host: Jake Brennan (Exactly Right and iHeartPodcasts)
Date: May 21, 2026
Length: ~30 minutes

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Overview

This bonus "after party" episode of DISGRACELAND, hosted by Jake Brennan, takes listeners through a spirited discussion of what it means to be “punk” — especially when it comes to albums and artists not historically labeled as such. Jake previews upcoming content about Sonic Youth and Weezer, riffs on Rolling Stone’s contentious new list of the 100 Greatest Punk Albums, and fields lively listener calls and messages. The episode is a love letter to musical outsiders, genre rebels, and those obsessed with music and crime lore.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. The “Punk” Label, Sonic Youth, and Coolness (00:58 – 08:25)

• Jake’s Current Research:
  • He’s writing an episode about Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth. The focus is not only the iconic couple but also the true crime connection behind Goo's album cover.
  • The concept of “cool” (attitude, sound, lifestyle) comes up repeatedly in his research.
• Defining Punk:
  • Sonic Youth “were the coolest. And then they weren’t. Thurston Moore lost his cool. But you can’t take away from what that band was…”
  • Punk as a descriptor applies to more than fashion or sound, but also to subversive intent and spirit.
  • Jake on artist Raymond Pettibon (created Goo artwork, also known for Black Flag visuals):

    “In a word, Pettibon's work is punk. …subversive. It's dangerous, larcenous, and again, totally unique. Like real punk, no matter the context.” (05:55)

• Genre Debates:
  • Sonic Youth isn’t traditionally labeled punk, though their music and backgrounds (East Coast no wave, hardcore) stem from punk influences.
  • Raises a broader music history question: “How do we categorize bands from the '80s or '90s influenced by punk, but not called punk?”

2. Albums That Are Punk (in Spirit) But Not Labeled Punk (08:26 – 12:45)

• Jake’s “Not Punk But So Punk” Examples:
  • Jerry Lee Lewis – Live at the Star Club (1964)
  • The Sonics – Here Are the Sonics (1965)
  • Miles Davis – On the Corner (1972)
  • John Lennon – Sometime in New York City (1972)
• Dictionary Definitions & Punk’s Origin as a Term:
  • Merriam-Webster: "Rock music marked by extreme and often deliberately offensive expressions of alien and social discontent."
  • The actual term "punk rock" wasn’t used until Lenny Kaye’s notes for Nuggets (1972).
• Question for Listeners:
  • “What albums by which artists are punk in attitude, maybe even in sound, but are not considered punk rock? Let me know.” (10:41)
  • Invites listeners to contribute to the ongoing debate via voicemail/text.

3. Rolling Stone’s 100 Greatest Punk Albums List (12:46 – 13:45)

• Jake’s Take:
  • Lampoons the list as “absolute chaos,” and obvious “rage bait.”
  • Calls out egregious placements: “The Fall Over, Circle Jerks, Turnstile Above, Johnny Thunders, Green Day Above Minor Threat.”
  • Decides he won’t let the list drive him nuts:

    "I refuse to get upset about it. I can no longer emotionally attach myself to the monsters at Rolling Stone magazine..." (12:56)

• Tease for Exclusive Content:
  • Promises a deeper dive into the making of these lists with Seth in the subscriber section.

4. DISGRACELAND News & Upcoming Episodes (13:46 – 14:41)

• Weezer Preview:

  • New episode will reveal a surprisingly dark, true-crime-tinged history of Weezer. Hints at themes:
    • “Rivers Cuomo’s belief in the algorithm,”
    • “Complicated relationship with massage parlors,”
    • “A bass player who… lived that debaucherous rock and roll lifestyle all the way to an early grave”
    • “Perhaps it’s about a shootout with cops?”
  • Jake’s favorite Weezer album: Pinkerton (“It is heavy. H E A V Y.”) (14:14)
  • Asks listeners for examples of favorite albums that are total outliers in an artist’s catalog (e.g., Pink Floyd’s Meddle, Metallica’s Lulu).

• Recent & Upcoming Features:

  • New: Christina Grimmie (The Voice) & her tragic murder
  • Rewind: Anthony Bourdain tribute (“Bourdain wasn’t a musician, but he was a rock star”) (13:52)

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Listener Calls, Texts, and Community Highlights

5. Gone Too Soon - Mount Rushmore of Lost Artists (16:08 – 16:48)

• Caller “D from Dallas”:
  • Names Amy Winehouse, Chris Cornell, Chester Bennington, Kurt Cobain as her “Gone Too Soon” Mount Rushmore.
  • Asks about Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington conspiracy theories.
• Jake’s Reply:
  • He’s looked into the conspiracy theories, found “nothing credible.”

6. Music and Fandom Shoutouts (17:33 – 22:24)

• Rick from 317:

  • Asks if Jake will cover the “well water conspiracy” around John McBane (Monster Magnet, Queens of the Stone Age associations).

• Scott from Staten Island (516):

  • Quadriplegic gym-goer, listens every episode. Brings up The Italian Job heist film and “The Blues Brothers” for best car chase.

• Danny Z (530):

  • In response to Diddy episode, bluntly concludes: “He did it. His mammoth-sized ego couldn’t shut up about it. What a douche.” (20:18)

• Listeners from 541, 713, 405, and more:

  • Messages about farming while listening, online purchases for true crime research (cadaver bags!), and the omission of Randy Rhoads from favorite guitarist lists.

7. Community Events and Engagement

• May Madness Sitcom Theme Song Tournament:

  • Sitcom-O-Tron 2000 narrows contenders to the “Elite Eight.”
  • Listeners can vote in the tournament (27:24).

• Content Expansion:

  • “This Film Should Be Played Loud” (video podcast about great soundtracks), upcoming episode on The Royal Tenenbaums.
  • Jake and Szeth’s “Hollywoodland” feed: Car music, musical heists, nostalgia, and movie/musical oddities.

• Listener Engagement:

  • Jake promotes call/text line (617-906-6638), email ([e-mail]), and All-Access content via Patreon or website.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Sonic Youth, Punk, and Cool:

  "Sonic Youth were the coolest. And then they weren't. Thurston Moore lost his cool. But you can't take away from what that band was, from what they created, from the impact that they had." (02:43)

• On Punk Rock Definition:

  "Like real punk, no matter the context. 70s, 80s, East Coast, West Coast, UK, US. You know it when you hear it." (07:50)

• On Rolling Stone’s Punk List:

  "This list, I refuse to get upset about it. I can no longer emotionally attach myself to the monsters at Rolling Stone magazine who create these godforsaken lists… but I'm not going to let it drive me nuts." (12:56)

• On “Heavy” albums and Pinkerton:

  "My favorite Weezer album, by the way, is Pinkerton. And not just because it was recorded right down the street from the apartment I was living in at the time, but because it is heavy. H E A V Y." (14:14)

• Listener Engagement:

  “What albums by which artists are punk in attitude, by your estimation, even in sound, but are not considered punk rock? What do you got? Let me know. 617-906-6638” (10:41)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Topic | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:58 | Sonic Youth “cool,” no wave vs punk, cover art crime origins | | 05:55 | Raymond Pettibon’s punk artwork | | 08:26 | Albums that are punk in spirit but not called punk | | 10:41 | Listener prompt: “non-punk” punk albums | | 12:56 | Rolling Stone’s “rage bait” punk albums list | | 14:14 | Weezer episode preview—"Pinkerton" as "heavy" outlier | | 16:08 | Listener’s ‘Gone Too Soon’ artists (Amy, Chris, Chester) | | 17:33 | Listener Rick: well water conspiracy/John McBane | | 18:13 | Listener Scott: Gym, “Italian Job,” Blues Brothers | | 20:18 | Listener Danny Z: Diddy episode feedback | | 22:24 | Listener Tom: Farming (listening habits) | | 26:33 | Sitcom theme song tournament update (Elite 8) | | 27:24 | Jake and Szeth: Car music, movie/music culture |

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Flow & Tone

• Tone: Conversational, irreverent, deeply passionate about music minutiae and audience interaction.
• Language: Jake’s style is self-reflective, humorous (“Sitcom-O-Tron 2000”), and often challenges the status quo of music categorization.
• Audience Involvement: Heavy; constant invitation for listener calls, emails, texts, with real responses and personal shoutouts.

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Summary

This bonus “after party” episode of DISGRACELAND turns the idea of “punk” inside out, arguing for a more expansive, attitude-based definition that crosses genres and decades. Jake Brennan dives into the cultural impact of Sonic Youth, the problem of genre labels, and why Rolling Stone’s new punk list has (predictably) infuriated fans. He also previews an unexpectedly grim Weezer episode, hosts a community vote on the best sitcom theme songs, and reads out messages from devoted listeners, making this episode a spirited, participatory celebration of musical obsession and outsider cool.

To get involved or listen ad-free: Visit disgracelandpod.com or call/text 617-906-6638.

Transcript

[Jake Brennan]

This is exactly right.

Double Elvis. Hey, Discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life? Just a touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland. The After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show. The party. After the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission? To uncover the truth and to confront the myth and to reclaim the story on this bonus episode. Sonic Youth, the definition of punk. A Weezer episode preview and an update on our May Madness sitcom music slugfest. Plus your voicemails, texts, emails, comments, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told. The kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, discos, let's get into it. So I'm writing about Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore from Sonic Youth this week. It's for an upcoming episode, obviously, and the episode is less about one of the coolest rock and roll couples to ever take the stage together, though it's partly about their relationship. But it's more about the true crime at the heart of the Sonic Youth album cover for Goo, one of the coolest album covers of all time. And cool. The concept of cool. It came up over and over again in the Sonic Youth research and in the research for the crime photo depicted in the album's art. Cool as in cool sound, cool look, cool attitude. Cool as in cool way of living your life. Cool as it being cool to each other, to your fans, to your wife. Cool thing, all of that. Okay, Sonic Youth were the coolest. And then they weren't. Thurston Moore lost his cool. But you can't take away from what that band was, from what they created, from the impact that they had. I did a podcast interview last week on a show with some friends of mine, a show called Stuff They Don't Want yout to Know. It's not out yet, but it'll be out soon. And they asked me to describe Sonic Youth and I said that the band was a mix of east coast no Wave and West Coast west coast hardcore. And I suppose that that's just the music historians half cute way of describing their music. In describing Raymond Pettibon, the artist who created the artwork for Sonic Use Goo. Greg Ginn from Black Flag's brother Pettibon, the dude who created all those great Black Flag album covers. SSD flyers. You recognize this stuff? I I describe Pettibon in the following way. This is when I was writing about the episode yesterday, by the way, not in the podcast interview, but I wrote the following In a word, Pettibon's work is punk. Here are some other words. Pettibon's art is subversive. It's dangerous, larcenous, and again, totally unique. Like real punk, no matter the context. 70s, 80s, East Coast, West Coast, UK, US. You know it when you it with Pettibon's art, you know it when you see it. Now, about Sonic Youth. I wrote when Sonic Youth began, back in 1981, they weren't punk. Punk was dead. They weren't new wave, they were no wave. They weren't just loud, they were noise. And they weren't your typical rock and roll band setup. There was a girl in the band, and her name was Kim, Kim Gordon, and she was a badass. Not some cutesy ornament, not some sultry front woman. She was gorgeous, sure, but beyond stereotyp, her beauty seemed to spring from her strength, not polish. So in trying to describe the coolness of this band, the coolness of the artist Raymond Pettibone that they collaborated with, the coolness of the Goo album cover. I kept coming up against the word punk, and Sonic Youth was heavily influenced by 70s punk rock. Thurston Moore was there at nearly every important late 70s, early 80s New York City punk moment. Yet Sonic Youth, they're not really thought of as a punk band. They're thought of as something else. And that's fine. I don't really care. Only so much. As a matter of my own intellectual curiosity. How do we categorize this band or any band from the 80s or 90s who came out of the influence of punk? Again, back to what I said. Like real punk, no matter the context. 70s, 80s East Coast, West Coast, UK, US. You know it when you hear it. Now, have you ever heard Jerry Lee Lewis's Live at the Star Club album from 1964? If that is not punk rock, I don't know what is. How about the Sonics album? Here are the Sonics from 1965, also way punk. These albums are punk in sound, if not attitude. But what about Miles Davis's on the Corner, that record from 1972, or John Lennon's Sometime in New York City, also from 72? The attitudes expressed by these artists on these album, about as subversive as you'll find on anything by the Ramones or the Clash. But punk rock as a musical term, it didn't come into play until after Jerry Lee Lewis and the Sonics and Miles and John. It didn't come into play until 1972, when Lenny Kay used the phrase punk rock in his liner notes to his excellent Nuggets compilation Now Merriam Webster. The dictionary defines punk rock as rock music marked by extreme and often deliberately offensive expressions of alien and social discontent. So by that definition, all of the albums I mentioned, Jerry Lee Lewis's Star Club, the Sonics, Here are the Sonics, the John Lennon Sometime in New York City album, even Miles Davis's on the Corner, all of these, by that definition, could be considered punk rock. But they're not. And I kind of get it. Again, to me, the first punk rock album is the Ramones album, the self titled album from 1976. All these albums came before, and there's a whole host of other albums that are punk in attitude and in sound, but aren't considered punk. So what are they? What albums by which artists are punk in attitude, even in sound, but are not considered punk rock? Johnny Cash at San Quentin, LCD Sound Systems, Dance Yourself Clean, Peaches, the Teaches of peaches Paul McCartney's ram, Tori Amos, Estranged Little Girls, Zappa, Massive Attack, Beefheart what albums by which artists are punk in attitude, by your estimation, even in sound, but are not considered punk rock? What do you got? Let me know. 617-906-6638 voicemail and text this is a fascinating question that I'm hoping we can dissect and debate here in the afterparty over the coming coming weeks and coming episodes. Again. 617-906-6638 let me know which albums are not considered to be punk rock but that are now. None of the albums or artists that I just mentioned are listed on the new Rolling stone List of 100 Greatest Punk Rock albums of all time. This list, I refuse to get upset about it. I can no longer emotionally attach myself to the monsters at Rolling Stone magazine who create these godforsaken lists. This one, released two days ago, has been called, among other things, absolute chaos. And you know, that's for for those of us who are, you know, less emotionally centered than I am, I guess, and less susceptible to complete and total rage bait. Which, which God damn this list. The Fall Over, Circle Jerks, Turnstile Above, Johnny Thunders, Green Day Above Minor Threat. This list will drive you nuts. But I'M not going to let it drive me nuts. I'm not. Now, Seth and I are going to get into this list and we're going to, we're going to discuss the insane thinking around punk rock over at Ro Stone in the exclusive section of this after party. And we're also going to get into the mechanics a little bit into the mechanics behind these lists, how they're put together. We talked about that great New York Times list a couple weeks ago about the greatest living American songwriters. And we have some information about how that list came to be. Some behind the scenes action. We're going to talk about that all coming up. Like I said in the exclusive section of the afterparty, go to Disgracelandpod.com to sign up to become an all access member and unlock exclusive content like this. Plus ad free content now in the feed. This week, our new episode on Christina Grimmie from the Voice and the terribly sad and inexplicable murder and what happened to her, it's just awful. But it's an episode worth listening to, so check that out. We're going to hit upon that a little bit later in the after party here. Coming up this weekend in the rewind slot, our classic episode on Anthony Bourdain. Okay, speaking of punks who weren't punk, Bourdain wasn't a musician either, but he was a rock star. So I had to tell this story. And I can't wait for you guys to hear this episode if you have not already. It's more of a tribute than it is an expose. But trust me, you're going to find it revelatory. You're going to try to find it revealing in ways that you won't believe even if you've seen every no Reservations episode or if you've read all of Bourdain's books. There's a lot of meat on this bone, pun intended. Now that's coming up on Sunday. All right, you can listen while you're getting Sunday dinner together. Okay. You know, seems seemed apt, right? Cook. Listen to the Bourdain disgrace end episode. Sunday is my day to cook, by the way, and listen to stuff. I find it to be very relaxing. But I'm getting off topic. Listen, next week in our next new episode, this one is going to be on Weezer. That's right, Weezer. Now, what true crime is there possibly to tell about Weezer? That's what you're asking yourself right now. Is it Rivers Cuomo's belief in the algorithm? Is it his complicated relationship with massage parlors? What about a bass player who lived that debaucherous rock and roll lifestyle a little too fully, all the way to an early grave? Yes, that happened. Or perhaps it's about a shootout with the cops. How about it's about all of this and more. This is the Weezer story like you've never heard it before, so do not sleep on this upcoming new episod of Disgraceland on Tuesday. My favorite Weezer album, by the way, is Pinkerton. And not just because it was recorded right down the street from the apartment I was living in at the time, but because it is heavy. H E A V Y But it was a flop as well. Commercially, it flopped. And it's probably Rivers, Cuomo's least favorite Weezer album. Any way you look at it, Pinkerton is a departure from what we've come to know and expect Weezer to sound like. So when you're listening to the Weezer episode of Disgraceland next week, be thinking about what your favorite album is by a band that is a total outlier of an album, okay? That is totally different from anything else in their catalog. Albums like Pink Floyd's metal or Neil Young's shocking pinks or Paul McCartney's Run Devil run, Metallica's Lulu even. Let me know 617-906-6638 that's going to be the question of the week for next week. Voicemail and text disgracelandpod on the socials disgracelandpodgmail.com you want to email me? I'll be back right after this to hear from you guys, to hear from you on text, your voicemail, etc. Back in the flash. And Doug, there's nowhere I wouldn't go to help someone customize and save on car insurance with Liberty Mutual. Even if it means sitting front row at a comedy show. Hey everyone, check out this guy and his bird. What is this, your first date? Oh, no. We help people customize and save on car insurance with Liberty Mutual. 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[Jake Brennan]

So I'm doing this thing where I'm. I'm doing this intermittent fasting thing every day. I stop eating at like 8 o' clock at night and I don't eat again until noon the next day. It's now, as I record this eight minutes to noon, it's 11:52. And what happens is, typically come 11am I'm ready to just kill somebody. I'm so angry because I'm so hungry. But then, you know, and then I'm going to eat at 12. That's the plan. But then 12 comes and my hunger goes away. It's crazy, crazy. And I'm hitting that phase right now. Right now as we're talking. I don't know why I thought you'd find this interesting, but I did. Anyhow, there you have it. I'm back. I'm in the phone booth. It's the one across the hall. You know what I'm doing, even though I'm hungry, or maybe I'm not hungry anymore. I can't tell. I'm hanging on the telephone. Let's hear from you guys. All right, let's hear from d in the 214 on. You guys still want to talk about this and that's fine. You want to keep talking about the Mount Rushmore of Gone Too soon artists. I'm here for it. This is D's take.

[Listeners or Callers]

Hey, Jake, it's Dee from Dallas, and I'm late getting in with my Gone Too Soon Mount Rushmore. And that is Amy Winehouse, Chris Cornell, Chester Bennington, and of course, Kurt Cobain. Also, have you ever done an episode on the conspiracy theory behind the Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington air quotes, suicides? Maybe you should. Bye.

[Jake Brennan]

All right, thank you, D. Thanks for checking in. Thanks for giving us your list. I haven't done anything on the air quotes, end of life stuff there with Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington. I have looked into it. I can't find anything credible that supports the conspiracy theory. And I know that it is kind of, sort of somewhat in a roundabout way, connected to Anthony Bourdain. And like I said, that episode is coming up in the rewind slot in a couple days. And again, I looked into it. Didn't find anything credible. If you found anything credible, keyword credible, by all means, send it to me and I'll look at it with fresh eyes. Thanks, D. All right, let's see what rick's doing in 317.

[Listeners or Callers]

Hey, Jake, it's Rick from 317. Love your show. Tough listening to it for years. Yeah, usually what I'm doing is just having a cocktail and sitting back and being informed. But keep doing what you're doing. I was gonna ask if you were gonna do a show maybe on, well, Water conspiracy with John McBane, who had ties in with Monster Magnet, ties in with Queens and Stone Age. So I don't know how much debauchery is going on that. But with those names, there's got to be something, right? All right, man. You take it easy. Rock and roll.

[Jake Brennan]

All right, let's check out Scott in the 516.

[Listeners or Callers]

Hey, Jake. My name is Scott. I listen to every one of your episodes. I am a quadriplegic that goes to the gym daily, and I always listen to all your episodes. You speak so fast. It took me a while to write down your number, to type it into my phone. I'm just saying I'd like to tell you one of the greatest heist films I've ever seen, and I'm sure you've seen it, is the Italian Job. I wrote you a text on it. I want to know what you think about it. Again, my name is Scott. I'm calling from Staten Island, New York, 516 area code. You can use my name. And I can't wait to hear the next next one you drop and greatest car trace movie. The Blues Brothers. No doubt about it. Bye, Jake.

[Jake Brennan]

Scott in the 516. Appreciate you, man. Good job. I'm going to the gym every day. Jealous. I don't have that kind of dedication. Okay, Scott, I'm sorry, dude. I haven't seen the Italian Job. I have not seen the original, nor have I seen the remake from the early 2000s. Which one are you referring to though? The original. Right, guys, Scott's referencing a conversation that Szeth and I have over in the Hollywoodland feed on. He's talking about greatest heist movies. We're recommending songs that are. That were heist songs. You can check that out if you're subscribed to Hollywoodland. Sorry to let you down here, Scott, but thank you because now you're prompting me to watch this. Who stars in the original? Who is it? Is it my guy there, Michael Caine? I think it is. Or am I thinking of something else? I should look it up. I'm not gonna. I'm gonna keep rolling through here. Let's do some text. We had our Diddy episodes in the rewind slot a couple weeks ago. This text comes from the 53 0. Do I believe Diddy did it? My logical mind says, how could I not? I still haven't seen any evidence that proves he didn't. He didn't proves that he didn't do it. She hasn't seen any evidence that proves that he has. Okay, she goes on to say, all we see and hear about is the overwhelming damning evidence against him.

[Listeners or Callers]

Him.

[Jake Brennan]

So yeah, he did it. His mammoth sized ego couldn't shut up about it. Haha. What a douche. Keep up the good work, Jake. Love your podcast, Danny Z. I tend to agree with you. Last week we were talking about this David story that's developing out or the court case is developing out in Los Angeles D4VD. And the713 writes in the David episode. Bonus. I read the indictment and then looked up cadaver bags on Amazon 13.99 and I was worried I would be on a list. Why can you buy this without a special license? I don't know. I don't. I don't have an answer for you there 713, but I appreciate it and I can't wait to tell this story. I can't wait till this court case wraps. 541 writes in Jake Tom from the 541 here. What do I do while listening to your podcast? Farming. Growing vegetables and flower seeds and fresh produce for the people here in the Lovely mountains of southern Oregon. Love the show. Rock on. Peace. Tom. Tom. That's exciting. You know, I can't think of anything more heavenly than farming or gardening. It just seems to be. It's like. It's like a fantasy of mine to be able to do that every day. To be completely disconnected from the. The technological, modern aspects of life that have their fucking talons in me 24 7, it seems. Hey, I'm going off track here. 405 texted. Hey, Disgraceland. I know I'm late. How could you leave Randy Rhodes off the list? He was a trained classical guitarist who is about to leave Ozzy to pursue a career dedicated to that style of play. Yeah, you know, and if I'm being honest, I made my list of great Mount Rushmore guitarists pretty subjective. And Randy Rhodes gripped me as a young child when that tribute to Randy came out. Incredible. I got in a lot of trouble because of that album. I don't know if I want to tell it here on this podcast because my kids might someday listen to this when they're still kids and I don't want them to hear this story. So, you know, I don't know. 617-906-6638 hit me up on text. Maybe I'll tell you over text. You can also leave me a voicemail. We might play it here on the after party. Disgracelandpodmail.com you want to send me an email? Disgracelandpod on the socials. Gotta let you guys know something real quick. Zeth and I are getting ready to film a new episode of our video podcast. This film should be played loud and in this episode. This episode is going to be all about Wes Anderson's film the Royal Tenenbaums and the music, the incredible soundtrack. That episode is going to drop next Wednesday over in the Disgraceland. All access feed on Patreon now. If you're not an all access member, now is a good time to sign up our monthly and annual memberships for the Sound and Fury tier. That's the tier where you get the video. That's the tier where you get. This film should be played loud. Royal Tenenbaums episode and our other episodes on Goodfellas and Boogie Nights and High Fidelity. You're gonna get 20% off through next weekend, May 31st. If you sign up now, go head over to disgraceandpod.com you're gonna see information right there on our homepage along with a link to get you signed up so that you can start watching. Episodes of this film should be played loud. Our video podcast all about the soundtracks. Great soundtracks from the great movies that we love. Big Lebowski, Boogie nights, et cetera. Get in there. Disgraceandpod.com get 20% off you're disgraced Land All Access membership All right, I'm gonna take a quick break. I'll be back after this. Premier Hosts on VRBO deliver quality vacation rental stays with fast responses and clear instructions. Oh, I had a question. Our host replied, super quick premier move. Wish I had a premier group chat. They won't even write me back. Book a top rated stay with a premier host if you know you've Erbo

May is mental health awareness month and your twenties they can feel like a lot on the psychology of your 20s podcast, we unpack the anxiety, the overthinking, the heartbreak, the identity crisis, all of it that comes with being in your 20s. Because if you've ever thought, is anybody else feeling this way? They definitely are.

[Guest or Listener]

I feel like my 20s was a process of checking off everything that I was not good at to get to what I was was good at. Oftentimes we take everything a little bit too seriously and we get lost in things that we later on decide weren't even important to us to begin with. There was a large chunk of my twenties that I like was just so wanting to like be out of that phase, out of my skin. And I just like really regret not living in the present more each week

[Jake Brennan]

we break down the science behind what you're going through and give you real tools to navigate it. Your 20s aren't about having it all figured out. They're about understanding yourself just a little bit better. Listen to the psychology of your 20s on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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1010 Shots Fired. City hall building.

[Jake Brennan]

How could this have happened in City Hall? Somebody tell me that. A shocking public murder. This is one of the most dramatic events that really ever happened in New York City politics. I scream, get down. Get down. Those are shots. A tragedy that's now forgotten and a mystery that may or may not have been political. It may have been about sex. Listen to Rorschach murder at City hall on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we're back. I'm not going to delay anymore. I know why we're all here. We are here with bated breath, waiting for our sitcom theme music, May a Palooza, May Madness, whatever the hell we're talking about. This, the sitcom Tronic 2000 is helping it. I can't remember what Matt calls this thing. Matt, get in here. Give us the update.

[Matt]

Yeah, Jake, you're talking about the May Madness sitcom theme tournament that we've got going on, and you're talking about the sitcom O Tron 2000, which is this advanced technology that we have to help us run this tournament. As of today, we've narrowed the field down to the Elite Eight. If you go on to patreon.com Disgraceland you can see the matchups for the Elite 8 round and you'll also see where to go to vote to see who's going to go through into the final four. Voting for the Elite Eight closes on Monday at 11:59pm Eastern Time. So if you want to get in and cast your vote, go ahead right now. Patreon.com Disgraceland make your voice heard.

[Jake Brennan]

All right, Matt, thank you as always for this very important update. We appreciate it. Guys, get over to Disgracelandpod.com sign up for our Patreon get in and vote. You don't even have to be a paid member to get in here and access all this hot, nostalgic sitcom action. All right. Now, I mentioned earlier the conversation that Szeth and I were having about musical heists over in the Hollywoodland feed this week. We got into perhaps an even more interesting musical conversation over in the wrap party in Hollywoodland this week when we were talking about great car music. And that's because we get Steve McQueen happening in Hollywoodland this week. And man, I could have talked about this for. I mean, we're supposed to come with three recommendations, three song recommendations. I had, I think seven written down. And I could have gone, I could have kept going. Something about cars and rock and roll and a lot of you probably don't know this. I wouldn't say I'm a car guy, but I love cars and I love car culture. I'm not part of a car club or anything like that, but I was kind of part of an unofficial one in high school with my buddies. So this stuff is in my DNA. And any excuse I get to talk about Jeff Tweedy and Wilco's passenger side is a good one. Matt, give the people a little taste of what they might be missing if they're not subscribed. Over in the Hollywoodland feed, Paint a picture here. What's, what's Jake Brennan, teenage Jake Brennan, driving around in 1968 Plymouth Barracuda straight six engine, white red top that I bought for 800 bucks off my friend Dutch who drove, who bought. I'm sorry who sold me the Barracuda so that he could buy his 64 Dodge Dart. We had cool fucking cars. And some of it was. Some of it was our own taste and some of it was like our dad's, not mine. Well, my dad, but that wasn't why I had my car. Some of my friends, like my friend Billy, his dad ran a gas station, so he. He was gifted a cherry red 67 Camaro when he got his license. Bastard. We had to pay for ours, but we had cool freaking muscle cars. And car culture was part of our. Our world in this small town that we grew up in. Interesting. And this song in particular, when ministry released Jesus Built My Hot Rod, it was like our minds exploded because it was everything. It was everything. And I didn't know until today that that was Gibby hangs singing that song from Butthole Surfers. Did you know that? No, I didn't know that. I didn't know that either, man. I did not know that. And I thought that was like some old movie sample at the beginning that I just read to you that soon I discovered that this rock thing was true, right? Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil and Jesus was an architect prior to his career as a prophet. All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world. I think you could put that on my headstone, dude, and it would be like, perfect. This sums up everything about me. All right, that's a Hollywoodland feed. Make sure you are subscribed to Hollywoodland on Apple podcasts or the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 617-906-6638. You want to hit me up on voicemail or text disgracelandpodgmail.com if you want to send me an email on any of these topics that we've been discussing. Dan Simpson writes, hey, I think the death of Dave Brocky of Guarantee, would make for a good episode. Dan, I don't know anything about this. Nothing I know of gwar. Of course, I almost went to see them a couple times with my friends, but I didn't for whatever reason. And yeah, you're absolutely right. That would make for a great episode. Tom G emails us what appears to be video from inside Aleister Crowley's home. Is that what this is? Only one of your three videos will open, my man. And I'm trying to put some context to this. Hit me back, Tom. Trying to piece this together. This one comes from Peter Googer. I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. Peter writes in hi Z and J that's Seth and Jake. Firstly, thanks Zeth for the heads up on Quantum Criminals. I didn't know about the book, so it goes without saying that it's now on order. I also checked out John Lemay's online store. Thanks for giving me the Albert King rap rabbit hole to go down. Jake. I knew a little about this somewhat mysterious character and self purported half brother of B.B. king. I especially love the chat between you guys on the Hunter and the appropriations. The song has been subject to Led Zeppelin. One is the album of theirs that I've listened to the least, so I was unaware of the directly ripped section of that Hunter song in how many more times. If I was, I would have recognized it immediately as Pacific Gas and Electric's version of the Hunter. It was a minor hit here in Australia back in 1969. I don't even know about Pacific Gas and Electric. All right. Anyways, Peter goes on, I can actually remember listening to it on my friend's mother's car radio. I was only 10 at the time, so I didn't know about Albert King's original and certainly wouldn't have known what a love gun was. And then he includes an article here on Pacific Gas and Electric. Peter, thanks so much. Disgracelandpodmail.com I don't know anything about this version of the Hunter. I don't like I said know anything about Pacific Gas and Electric, but I'm excited to dig into this. Looks like they were a inspiration on both Jimi Hendrix and Jimmy Page. All from Peter's email. Thank you Peter. Disgracelandpodmail.com you guys want to email me about anything? Get at me. Disgracelandpodmail.com 617906-6638 Voicemail and text Disgracelandpodmail Disgracelandpod on the socials all right guys, as promised, Szeth and I are about to get into our conversation on Punk Rock and Rolling Stone's list of the 100 greatest punk albums of all time. But more importantly, the machinations behind the making of these lists by Rolling Stone, by the New York Times, et cetera. These lists that we've been discussing a lot here. Pretty interesting conversation. You're not going to want to miss it. Go to disgraceimpod.com to sign up if you're not already an All Access member. All right, let's recap, shall we? We talked a lot about bunch of punk bands in this episode. The Clash Sex Pistols. We have two episodes on the Sex Pistols in our archive, another on the Clash, and we've got a great John Lennon episode from the time that he made sometime in New York City. Matt will have the episode information in the show notes of this page so that you guys can navigate through our archive to find those stories should you be inclined. All right, listen. Number one, this week, our new episode on Christina Grimmie that is available for you right now. Number two, our rewind episode coming up this Sunday on Anthony Bourdain that'll be there for you. Don't miss that. Number three, next week, brand new episode on Weezer Zest giving you Hollywood and crime vibes in the Hollywoodland feed. So make sure that you are subscribed. Our next this film should be played loud. That's coming next week on the Royal Tenant Bombs. And now is your time to get 20% off becoming an All Access member. Go to disgraceandpod.com to sign up. Number 661-7906-6638. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history. So keep calling, keep texting, giving us your answers to this week's question of the week or with whatever else you want to talk about. Number seven, do not forget discos. This isn't just content, it's a community. A community of the obsessed. And no one cares about music, books, records and the crime and grime. It ties them all together like you do. And, well, that's a disgrace. Back on June 10, 2016, Singer in the Voice contestant Christina Grimmie was shot down and murdered. And this was what America was listening to on that day. Number one, love yourself, Justin Bieber. Number two, sorry, Justin Bieber. Number three, one dance, Drake featuring Wizkid and Kyla. Number four, work Rihanna featuring Drake. Number five, stressed out 21 pilots. Number six, Panda the fool designer. Number seven, hello, Kenneth. Fidel. Number eight, don't let me down, the chain smokers. Number nine. Nine. Can't stop the feeling, Justin Timberlake. Number ten. Number eleven, Quit talking and start mixing. Cut it.