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Hey discos, need a little more Disgrace Land in your life? Just a touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgrace Land. The afterpar. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the After Party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard. To dig into the dirt on this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's episode subject, Dennis Hopper. We are also discussing two cultural giants that we lost last week, David Johansson and Gene Hackman. And we get into your voicemails, text, dms, emails, and as always, a whole lot of rosy all right, discos, let's get into it. So since the last time we talked, which was during last week's afterparty, we lost two giants. I think we can use that word, giants from the world of entertainment. David Johansson and Gene Hackman. Two men, two artists of immense influence. David Johansson, of course, as a New York doll, he was the last living New York doll as well, a band that he led. A band that directly influenced so many others. A band as exciting and thrilling and dangerous as the city that it represented. A band reflective of David Johansson's unique style and personality, which was tough, witty, funny, iconoclastic. If David Johansson never created the New York Dolls, it's doubtful. I really, truly mean this. This isn't hyperbole. It's doubtful that we would have had bands like the Stooges, the Ramones, and if we didn't have the Ramones, then we wouldn't have had the Clash or the Sex Pistols, and we definitely wouldn't have had without the New York Dolls, we definitely wouldn't have had Kiss or Motley Cruel. At the very least, Motley Crue would have been a hell of a different band. If the New York Dolls never made it into Nikki Sixx's record collection. I didn't grow up a New York Dolls fan. They were before my time. I came to them late. I came to them actually through Johnny Thunders solo stuff. So I wasn't there obviously when they started, it was before I was born. But in the research I've done, both on the New York Dolls and on bands like Blondie, especially In reading Legs McNeil's book, please kill Me, you really get sense of the stir, the unique stir, the unique energy that the New York Dolls, the excitement that the New York Dolls created in New York City at their spark, at their beginning, specifically around the early 70s shows and the Mercer Arts center shows that were depicted in. Oh God, what was that movie? No TV show on HBO Vinyl. These shows were the coolest of the coolest shows by every estimation. This whole scene that the New York Dolls had kind of built and that. That had sprung up around them, around the creation of their band, it was felt all over the city. I mean, from a young Jeffrey Ross Hyman, AKA Joey Ramone, to Bette Midler. I've. I've even read accounts of, Of John Lennon, if not, you know, being a fan of the New York Jaws, at least being interested or aware of what was going on at the time. And like I said, Bette Midler was hanging out down there. I. I read it wasn't true. I checked it this morning. I read that Hendrix was at a New York Doll show. But I checked that out and he died, I believe, the year before they. They came to be. So if you read that, that's not true. But of course, Joey Ramon, Bette Midler, a host of others who went on to become famous. Debbie Harry, Too Many Dimension. The Dolls were the hottest thing in New York, unquestionably. And they were one of those bands that of course, didn't sell a lot of records, but whose influence is still being felt in our culture 50 years later, even beyond music with style, with filmmaking. I actually have a film on in the background right now. It's called Smithereens. It's just playing on Criterion Channel. It's set in the 80s, early 80s, I believe, in Manhattan. And just from the look of it and the feel of it and the sound of it and all of it, you can feel the influence of the New York Dolls in this little indie movie. David Johansson was a star for sure, despite the band not selling a bunch of records. So even as a star, though, it's hard to even explain the type of star that David Johansson was in the New York Dolls. I mean, he's an everyman tough guy, but he's in lipstick and high heels and he's got this androgynous image that he's projecting while he's fronting the New York Dolls. But he's still, like I said, tough, fast talking, the scrappy New York cab driver. All that worked in contrast with his band Personas somehow. And it just all added up to this certain brand of icon. David Johansson was the best type of rock star. He was many things at once, just like New York City. Okay, I've said that about New York City in the past, it's obvious, but David Johansson was more than just the front man of the New York Dolls. Of course he was. He was the Buster Poindexter character, that monster hit from the 80s. Hot, hot, hot. He was an actor, most notably as the Ghost of Christmas Past and Bill Murray Scrooge. And I'm sure there's a host of other roles that I'm not thinking of right now that are more indicative of just how awesome David Johansson was. I had a brief, very brief personal exchange with David Johansson about five years ago, and I was fully aware of the legend that he is. And I found him just in that moment to be gentle and kind, and he just projected this ease about him that was just beyond cool. That's how I would describe it. So rest in peace, David Johansson. There's been a gazillion obits about him and tributes, and a lot more eloquent than what I just laid out to you. And I just tried to give it to you raw and sort of semi off the cuff of how I felt, how I feel, I should say, about David Johansson's place in rock and roll history. And I think if you asked all the greats, they'd give you something similar to what I just gave you. David Johansson was a one of a kind artist who broke the mold and he will forever ever be missed. We also lost Gene Hackman, and like David Johansson, Gene Hackman was immensely influential, though in ways that are harder to qualify. I think, where Johansson was sort of over the top and burst into our cultural consciousness. And these brief, impactful moments, leaving a loud mark on music and film. Gene Hackman, to me, anyway, was so good and so consistent that it's almost like we took him for granted. Yet there he was, he's in all these great roles year after year throughout my childhood, you know, from before my childhood, you know, into my adulthood. Gene Hackman just kind of always There, always pumping out great role after role after role until he suddenly wasn't. And when he stopped making movies and retired from the public eye about, I guess, what, a decade ago, two decades ago, how many of us even really noticed? I know I didn't, I'm ashamed to say, and I say this because a couple of months ago is when I realized this, when these paparazzi photos of a gaunt looking Gene hackman in his 90s were released. He doesn't look anything like we remember him as. And it was at that moment that I realized that he was still around. And I don't know what that's about. Talk about fading away instead of burning out. But again, there's something really interesting there to me about an artist who's just so good and so consistent and so prolific that we take them for granted and we don't really give ourselves the time and the moments to celebrate them and to really dig in and shout about them and geek out on them. And Gene Hackman was just always there. His filmography is as impressive as almost any other great 20th century actor. I mean, these movies are incredible. French Connection, Hoosiers, Bonnie and Clyde, Royal Tenenbaums, the Firm. The Firm's great. I know, I know there's going to be cinephiles out there who are like the Firm. What are you talking about? The Firm's fucking awesome. And he is tremendous. And Unforgiven, even Superman, Mississippi Burning, Young Frankenstein, and of course the Conversation. Hackman is so good, so, so consistent and so Gene Hackmany and all these films, like I said, we take him for granted. At least I do. That's my take. I don't know if you guys feel that way. There's just something to be said about that greatness that is so steady that it goes unnoticed. And that's what I believe Gene Hackman had. And I believe that he had a career that most actors in Hollywood would die for. And that's actually something we need to talk about, is how Gene Hackman himself died. We're still figuring it out. David Johansson died from cancer. Gene Hackman's death, alongside his wife Betsy Arakawa, is still very much under investigation. If you're unaware of what happened, their bodies were found in different parts of their home in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Autopsy and toxicology reports are still pending. There were pills scattered around the body of Hackman's wife, but not around Gene Hackman himself. Both are believed to have been deceased for as long as a week, possibly a little bit longer, before they were discovered when this happened last week. The fact that their dog was found to be dead as well led everyone to believe that or to speculate, I should say that this was carbon monoxide poisoning and that's what was to be blamed. But apparently that's been ruled out. There are no signs of trauma to the, to their bodies. If we're to believe what's been reported, there's no signs of foul play. But both these deaths are strange. Hackman was 95. Okay. Obviously no spring chicken. His wife though was 65. How did they both die at the same time in different parts of the house? And what's up with their dog being dead? 12 year old dog found dead on the scene as well. Anyways, we'll find out and we'll do something a little more fully on Gene Hackman in the future. And of course we have a New York Dolls episode, what that gets into. You know, obviously David Johansson fronted that band, so we do a lot on David Johansson there. But I think there could actually be a, some sort of David Johansson tribute episode in the future. There's more to that guy's career than we obviously get into in the New York Dolls episode. And I'm just frankly fascinated by the guy. So I'd love to stick my head and stick my head in that wormhole for a couple weeks and come out the other side with something cool for you guys to listen to. So maybe we'll do that in the future. And yeah, Hackman, David Johansson. Two deaths in the past week. Heavy stuff. One death mysterious. One death rather uneventful. Both sa but two lives well lived with massive contributions to our culture. Both men will be missed by millions, including of course, those of us here in Disgraceland. Speaking of disgrace, about Sean Combs and that lawyer who quit the TikTok rumor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the rumor mill will not quit. And what's being bandied about as the reason why Diddy's attorney bailed. It's so disgusting. It's so grotesque. I can't repeat it here in this space, but if you want to know my thoughts on it, you can hit me up in the Patreon chat. We can talk about it over there in private like proper degenerates behind closed doors. Privacy of our own digital digital home. Related news to Diddy. Jay Z is suing the accuser who brought a lawsuit against him through Tony Busby. Jay Z suing that accuser for defamation. And as I say, if you go for the king, you better not miss. They missed. And here Comes Jay Z. Speaking of kings, we got some Dennis Hopper, we got some Stevie Ray Vaughan. Dennis Hopper, of course. This week's full episode of Disgraceland, Stevie Ray Vaughan, last week's exclusive episode for our All Access members. We're going to be talking about those guys in this here after party. Before we get to that, I want to talk about what's coming up in Disgrace. And next in your feed are our rewind episodes on Tupac Shakur. And these have particular relevance right now because of Sean Combs as we get ready to go into this Sean Diddy combs trial in two months. That's right, two months. May 5th, still on the books. Okay, so we got to bone up. Got a bone up on our 90s hip hop true crime. There's really five episodes on the whole Tupac and Biggie saga. When I started Disgraced on the first season, there's a joint episode on TUPAC and Biggie, 30 minutes. And then about two years after that, I released two two part episodes, one on Tupac himself and one on the Notorious B.I.G. that bookended a season of Disgraceland. I think they did. I think they bookended it anyways. They all came out around early 2020. But this Tupac episode, if you have not heard it, this two part Tupac episode, you are in for a treat. And like I said, if you have heard it, time to listen again. Time to bone up and get ready for this trial that's coming on Sean Combs in a couple months. And plus, you know, with everything that we've learned about Sean Combs and about Tupac's murder in the last few years, I want to know what you guys think about Tupac's murder. I want to know what you guys think about how I depict it in these episodes and what else is happening. Oh, yeah, next Tuesday, St. Patty's Day. I know people hate when I say St. Patty's Day, but I don't care. I grew up in Clinton, Massachusetts. You could not be more Irish. You could not be more Catholic. And I know there's purists out there who say that the Irish, the true cat, the true Irish, the true Catholics don't say St. Patty's Day. Well, I grew up amongst. I'm Catholic myself. I grew up amongst Catholics and we said it. So I'm not going to stop it. Okay? I'm not St. Patrick's Day. There, I said it for you. For St. Patrick's Day, also known as St. Patty's Day, we have a Thin Lizzy episode that's coming up that's on Tuesday. That's for you guys to hear. When you're listening to this Thin Lizzy episode, I want you to be thinking about the greatest Irish bands of all time, okay? You can. You can tell me Drop Kick Murphy's and I'll take it. All right, I'll accept it. They're great. I love them. They're amazing. But you're gonna get bonus points for Irish bands, okay? There ain't that many of them. Speaking of Catholics, my priest went to high school with some of the guys from U2. How cool is that? So I know what his answer is. But I want to know yours. Who is it? Let me know. Be thinking about that when that Thin Lizzy episode pops next week. I'll be back in a flash right after this with your voicemails, your texts, your DMs, emails and more.
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All right, we are back. Just a quick reminder to the Apple podcast listeners have auto downloads turned on so that you're not missing out on any episodes. All right, 617-906-6638 leave me a voicemail and send me a text. Last week's Marilyn Monroe episode's being rewound in your feed. We asked the question of do you think that the Kennedys had anything to do with Marilyn Monroe's death? And here is an answer from. Who's this from? This is from the 619.
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Hey, Jake, this is Jesse from the 619. No, it's easy to say that the Kennedys have something to do with Marilyn Monroe's death. I think us as human beings just automatically assume that we just. Because someone was affiliated with someone in a powerful position that, oh, we had to go ahead and take this person out. No, I don't. I don't think that was it. I just think that circumstances may have contributed to her death. But me personally, I just don't think it was the Kennedys. Thanks for everything you do for the show and for getting all this created stuff for us to listen to, man. Thanks.
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Six, one, nine. Jesse, I agree with you 100%. I know that's not that interesting. I know the big juicy conspiracy theory is more interesting. But, you know, I think the Kennedys, in a lot of way, in a lot of ways were shits. And they did some pretty. Pretty awful stuff. But I think, on balance, especially Bobby Kennedy, I think he was a good dude. And, yeah, he may have been in love with Marilyn Monroe, but, I mean, hey, can you fucking blame the guy? I mean, come on. Does that mean he killed her? I don't think so. I agree 100% with your take on this, Jesse. We also. We released the Stevie Ray Vaughan episode in our All Access to our All Access members. If you didn't get it in the feed, it's because you're not a member of. You don't have a membership for the All Access part of Disgraceland. Five bucks a month, by the way. So a lot of talk about Steve Ray Vaughan, which was last month's exclusive episode. I always stumble over how to say that. That went to our All Access members. And we got this call here regarding Steve Ray Vaughan from Curtis in the 513.
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Hey, Jake. This is Curtis from 513. That's Middletown, Ohio. You asked a question about artists who found themselves in a supporting role to another artist. Well, to have a continuation on Stevie Ray Vaughan story, what I heard a few months ago was that when Stevie Ray left David Bowie's tour, David Bowie went and found another guitarist who happened to be kind of down on his luck at the time, and it happened to be Peter Frampton. Research that. But that's what I heard on something. I forget what it was. But that's a big thing, too.
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Later, Curtis. I never heard that before. I'm not surprised. Peter Frampton backing up David Bowie. I could see Bowie throwing. Throwing Frampton a Bone there bringing him on tour. But you know, Curtis, I actually have a lot of research I'm already doing. So I'm not going to research that as you, as you so politely told me to do. But if anyone else wants to check that out and get back to Curtis and I here, we will gladly take your hard work and try and figure this out. Did Peter Frampton support David Bowie after Stevie Ray Vaughan split from Bowie's band? If you want to hear more about how Stevie Ray Vaughan split, what it was like playing with Bowie, all that stuff, you can listen, like I said, to the all act episode on Steve Ray Vaughan, but you got to become a member.
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Easy for you to say, Jake. Hey there. Michael Leahy is calling from San Francisco on Cloudy Saturday Afternoon. Just got the news about the passing of David Johansson, and I am listening to your doll's episode in sort of humble tribute to him. People say that when somebody passes, somebody's, oh, a bit of my childhood just passed. And I really feel that way today. I mean, I was one of a handful of people in my high school who dug the Dolls. I even wrote about him in my high school newspaper. And, you know, they were just, you know, know them. No Pistols, no Ramones, no Green Day, you know, none of that. He was, he was a gentleman and a spiritual scholar and a scholar rather. You know, I really feel lucky to have seen them at the, the Fillmore here in San Francisco in 2005. 6. Well, as the Manson himself would say, let's just dance. And thanks for what you guys do. Keep that Crenshaw space booky going. All right.
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415. Michael Lane. He. Thank you so much for the, for the call. Yeah, you nailed it. I said pretty much the same thing at the top of the show. I mean, I share sentiments 100% on David Johansson and the influence that the New York Dolls had, specifically that David had himself. He was, I believe, the spark. Not to take anything away from the other guys in the band, Johnny Thunders in particular, but I appreciate your sentiment. I appreciate your call, appreciate the emotion. We're all a little, a little bit, a little bit raw after the death of David Johansson. 617-906-6638. You guys want to call me about anything? You want to vent about anything going on in the world. You want to commiserate with our grief over the passing of a couple legends, we can do that as well. You can hit me on text, you can hit me on Voicemail like, like Michael here and the others, you know, with the David Johansson and Gene Hackman passing. I've talked very little in the last few days and even in this podcast already, I've talked very little about Dennis Hopper in the episode that we have. So let's go to this voicemail here. This one coming from the 781 back in Massachusetts.
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Jake, what up? It's ish. Hope all is well. Regarding your question of the week, who is the most rock and roll actor in Hollywood? I wouldn't say this person is the most, but he's definitely a bit rock and roll. I'm gonna go with Mickey Rourke. I don't know, something about him just screams rock and roll. Yeah, that's all I got. Hope all is well. Disco Ish.
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Appreciate you, man, as always. Thanks for the call. I wonder what Dennis Hopper thought of Mickey Rourke. I think he would share your sentiment there for sure. Mickey Rourke is fantastic. Just what a force. What a force. Pope of Greenwich Village, please tell me you've all seen that. I kind of want to rewatch that right now. Yeah, I do. Ish. Thanks for reminding me. Mickey Rourke, Dennis Hopper, 617906, 6638. David Johansson. Wow. Gene Hackman. All the greats are coming out to play today in this after party. Barry from the 904 in reference to our recent Scorsese episode. Hey, my favorite filmmaker. And this one is tough, but I gotta say Eastwood. Same dude who directed Unforgiven, also with Gene Hackman. Barry. Thank you for the text, guys. I'm going to rapid fire a bunch of these. I might not read the entire text, but I want to get to a bunch of stuff that I haven't gotten to in a while. Jake, this is James from the 318 Stevie Ray Vaughan episode was the very definition of exquisite storytelling. Thanks James. Appreciate that. James goes on to say, as my far as my favorite guitarist, I have two First, Paul Gilbert. Not only is he a shredder of the highest level, but the joy on his face as he burns up and down the fretboard reminds me of why I love music. The first place. I love that. Second is the recently passed Jordy Walker from the British post punk act Killing Joke 318. Thanks for the text. Appreciate you. 706 writes in hey there Disgraceland folks. Seems like I can't get a break from grief these last few years. It started a few years back by the loss of my father and I had your podcast to prop up my mind from going to that darker place that we go to and grieving. And this time it's a little different, but it hurts just the same. My pet of almost 12 years succumbed to lymphoma. Lymphoma. And that we've been fighting since around my birthday in October. And all I have to say after that is cancer. And anyone who openly opposes any and all forms of treatment to possibly get a cure for it. Love you guys. Please keep it rolling. 706. I'm sorry for your loss. That sucks. I hope you're doing as well as you can be doing with that news and I hope you're enjoying connecting here with the rest of the disco community here in the afterparty. Hit us up elsewhere if you like. We're on Instagram. Disgracelandpod, we're on X and we are on Facebook also. I don't know if you're in the Patreon chat. Hit us up there too. 302 wearing the Disgraceland Rocka Rolla shirt. Looks great. Looking good. Keep it up. This one comes from the 319. Hey Jake, it's Jeremy from the 319. Have you thought about making an app with all your shows like Ashley Flowers has? That would be cool and an easy way for people who miss Badlands when you start it back up. Keep up the great work. Three one, nine. Appreciate the tip. Yeah, we've thought about it, but we've got something else cooking that I'm going to talk to you about very shortly. Okay? So just keep an ear glued to the after party. All right. 319. You're going to like what we have to talk about. Lots of best director texts. We got. 2, 4, 8 coming in hot with Michael Mann. 805. Scorsese. Kubrick, Kubrick, Kubrick. We should do a Stanley Kubrick episode. That'd be great. 818 writes in. Jake, this is a little late, but I wanted to tell you great work on the Scorsese Part 2 episode. And your impression of Marty talking about taking out the producer in the style that he was talking to Travis Bickle while in the cab was pretty fresh. Since I'm here, I'll just say that along with some of the obvious ones like Scorsese, I got to put Spike Lee and Guy Ritchie on the fave directors list. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love Spike Lee's movies. I really, really, truly do. Guy Ritchie, not as much, but I just haven't spent enough time with them. I will at some point. Something to look forward to. One more here. 808. In regard to the question of the greatest guitarist, I'll answer. My personal favorite is Nuno Betancourt. Nuno from Hudson, Massachusetts, my old neck of the woods. All right, guys, 617-906-6638 voicemail and text. Next G.R. twardowski writes on Instagram. Good afternoon. I heard a conspiracy theory this morning that Mindy McCready didn't commit suicide, but that she and her husband were murdered due to excessive debt. Have you ever heard that? No, I have not. And I am, I don't know. Should I be embarrassed to say that I don't know who Mindy McCready is? When you said Mindy McCready, I instantly thought of Mike McCready from Pearl Jam. But Mike McCready, last I checked, is still very much alive. I don't know who you're talking about. If anyone knows who this is or what this is about, and if it's worth looking into, let me know. I am in no ways supporting this so called conspiracy theory. I am in no way saying that I think it's even a conspiracy theory or that there's any validity to it at all. It's just something that just popped up immediately here in my feed, sorry, in my DMs. And I'm asking you guys if you know anything about it. So hit me up. Disgracelandpod on Instagram disgracelandpod on Xgraceland Pod on Facebook. Follow us everywhere. Get all of our content. I communicate all over the place. Paul G. Bateman on Facebook writes, hey Jake, it's me, PGB from the 843, your friendly neighborhood sports therapist and personal trainer. I just watched the documentary on Sly Stone and I have to say it was the perfect compliment to your episode between the two. I feel like I have a better look at the whole picture. Thanks for the hard work as always. You asked me about the difference in hot tub and sauna and they are huge. I'm not going to go into the rest here, but let me just say, Paul, I appreciate the info on hot tubs and sauna. 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All right, welcome back. This Graceland Story of the Week can be any story from your rock and roll past or from rock and roll history in general that you think best represents the rock and roll spirit and that you want to share with us. And then we share it on the Internet. Okay, We've been posting these on Instagram doing these little carousel stories. Sort of celebrate you guys and all the rock and roll animalism that you've gotten up to in the past. Disgracelandpodmail.com is how to get your Story of the week to us. You can also call or send a text, but email seems to be the right medium for this. This week's Story of the week comes from Mr. Joe Cronley. Joe writes in hey, this story is secondhand told to me by the late Mr. Kim Davis, high school friend of my former wife. He sadly died of a lifestyle related disease. I have attempted to contact two of the other parties in the story for verification and have not heard back. Here goes. In January 1977, Kim Davis was day drinking at an Atlanta strip club named Tattletale, which is still open. There was hardly anyone in the place and a group of very loud, oddly dressed people came in. Kim ended up speaking with some of them who were clearly British. KIM Y' all from England? GUY Yes. We've never been to America. We've never really been anywhere. We just got here. KIM so what are you doing here? GUY well, we're in a band and we're playing a show tonight. KIM really? What's your band called? GUY we're called the Sex Pistols. The band played their first U.S. show at a venue called the Great Southeast Music hall, which was in a strip center next to a bowling alley and a Kmart just up the street from the Tattletale on Piedmont Avenue. And they were staying in a two story motel called Squire Inn, more or less across the park parking lot from the Tattletale. And they were killing time before the show at the nearest bar. And the girls there are still hot, told to me by Kim. I wish I could verify it. If you know how to reach John Lydon or Steve Jones, I'd love to have it corroborated. Thanks, Joe. Atlanta. JOE appreciate it. And you know, I often say the story of the week is to support the preservation of the rock and roll animal, the spirit of the rock and roll animal. And I gotta say, killing time at a strip club in the afternoon on tour for a rock and roll band is about as rock and roll as it gets. So without the verification, I'm already believing this just based on the details that you've provided here. But hey, if we get a Steve Jones or John Lydon, and I've talked to John Lydon in the past, and I was actually pitched on having Glenn Matlock on the show a while back, and I just, I never followed up. I feel bad about that now that I think about it. But if I ever talk to a Sex Pistol, I'll be sure to bring up the Tattletale. So thank you so much, Joe. Guys, hit me with your story of the week email. All right, Disgracelandpodmail.com and you might get it read here on air. Appreciate it. And then like I said, Joe, keep an eye on Instagram tomorrow. We'll have something up and we'll be name checking you and the Tattletale. All right, if you want to help the show out, you can do so by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts and or Spotify. As you know, the reviews help the show with discovery. And every week I read a review and if I read your review and you get in touch with me, we will send you some merch. So this one comes from Pierre. Sarah Sue. Pure Sarah Sue. Show you how diplomatic I am. This is not a good review. Pure Sarah sue writes in. All the stories are about dudes. No bad girls allowed. I guess pure Sarah sue is understandably upset about this. Pure Sarah Sue. I've said this before and I'll say it again. There just isn't all that much true crime from women in the world of music. We've covered a lot, as much as I think we can and there's still more we can do. And I say this, I read this review on purpose today because I'm in the middle of researching the Go Go's for a Go Go's episode that'll be out in a couple months. So pure Sarah Su, if you're listening, if you're still with us, get pumped, get pumped for that Go Go's episode. All right. And I think to all the women out there, it says something about you that you haven't behaved throughout the past in music history like as badly as men. I just, I think that's a positive. It may result in a less well rounded podcast. But I think, you know, on, you know, on balance, for humanity's sake. Anyways, it's a good thing. Over on Spotify Knackers, this isn't a review but Knackers, I still want you to hit me up because I like how you're doing this over here on the comments section in Spotify Knackers is answering the question of we prompted from the Dennis Hopper episode, which is who is the most rock and roll actor from Hollywood. And Knackers writes in Charlie Sheen ended discussion. You know, hard to argue with that one. Hard to. Hard to argue with that behavior. I don't even know if I. The only way you can argue that is to argue. Was that behavior even rock and roll or is it just so frickin over the top we can't even categorize it? Charlie Sheen still alive. I think he's got a new series coming out or it's out or something. 617-90-66638 Send a voicemail, leave me a text and leave a review for the show on Apple Podcasts and or Spotify. We really appreciate it this episode, guys. It's coming to an end but the after party, it's going to get Continue for the All Access members. Okay, remember earlier I was talking about that Stevie Ray Vaughan episode? You might have heard me sneak in there. That you also, in addition to getting that extra bonus episode per month, like the Stevie Ray Vaughan episode, you also get a little bit more of the bonus after party. And that's about to start right now for our All Access members. Five bucks a month. You also get commercial free listening. I can't forget that. I don't know, but if you ask me, that's a good way to spend $5. All right, I know we all don't have an extra five bucks sitting around, but if you do go over to Disgracelandpod.com membership and sign up to become an All Access member, we appreciate it. All right, we are back. We mentioned a couple different archive episodes in this here bonus up. Talked obviously about David Johansson. So New York Dolls talked about the Ramones, talked about you two. Who am I forgetting? I'm not sure. But for those three episodes, Matt's going to have the archive information. The episode information. Excuse me. On these archive episodes in the show notes for this year bonus app. So if you guys want to find those, you'll be able to find them. All right, I want your story. Call me. I want your story of the week. Okay? Text me, call me 617-906-6638. Or text me. Leave me a voicemail. Hit me up. Disgraceandpod. Give me your story of rock and roll animalism. Either something you heard or something you experienced firsthand. And your story might be the story of the week that is number one on our recap. Number two on our recap is right now in our feed. Our episode on Dennis Hopper. Number three, coming to our tomorrow, our rewind episodes on Tupac Shakur. And coming next Tuesday, our brand new episode on Thin Lizzy. Number four, Merch. Winners. Get in touch. You know who you are. Number five. Remember, no one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do in that. Well, that's just a disgrace. All right, this week's episode subject, Dennis hopper died on May 29, 2010. And in honor of the man they call Hop, this is the Billboard top 10 from the day he died. Number one. OMG. Usher featuring Will I Am. Last week two peak position one weeks on chart seven. Number two, California girls, Katy Perry featuring Snoop Dogg. Last week, non applicable. Peak position Two weeks on chart one. Number three, airplanes Bob featuring Haley Williams. Last week, five people. Peak position Three weeks on chart five. Number four, nothing on you, Bob, featuring Bruno Mars. Last week three Peak position One weeks on chart 16 Number five Break youk High Tail Cruise featuring Ludicrous Last week Position. Quit talking and start mixing.
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Date: March 6, 2025
Host: Double Elvis Productions
This bonus “After Party” episode of Disgraceland is a raw, personal, and interactive tribute following the recent passing of two monumental figures—David Johansen (New York Dolls) and Gene Hackman (actor). The host reflects on their colossal influence, spins out into the ripple effects on music and movies, digs into community voicemails and texts, and touches on other pop-culture happenings—all in Disgraceland's signature gritty, reverent, loose, and passionate tone.
Legacy as a New York Doll:
“If David Johansen never created the New York Dolls, it’s doubtful...we would have had bands like the Stooges, the Ramones. Without the Dolls...we definitely wouldn’t have had Kiss or Motley Crue. At the very least, Motley Crue would have been a hell of a different band if the New York Dolls never made it into Nikki Sixx’s record collection.” (04:35)
Personal Reflection & Influence:
“He’s an everyman tough guy, but he’s in lipstick and high heels...and all that worked in contrast with his band personas. And it just all added up to this certain brand of icon.” (08:09)
Direct, Emotional Tribute:
“I found him...to be gentle and kind, and he just projected this ease about him that was just beyond cool.” (11:50)
Hackman’s Quiet Prolific Greatness:
On Taking Talent for Granted:
His Mysterious Passing:
“Pretty awful stuff [from the Kennedys], but on balance...I think, especially Bobby Kennedy, I think he was a good dude...Does that mean he killed her? I don't think so.” (23:16)
“You know, they were just, you know, know them, no Pistols, no Ramones, no Green Day, you know, none of that...He was a gentleman and a scholar...” (25:47)
“Killing time at a strip club in the afternoon on tour for a rock and roll band is about as rock and roll as it gets.” (38:57)
On David Johansen and Influence:
“He was an everyman tough guy, but he’s in lipstick and high heels...all that worked in contrast with his band personas...David Johansen was the best type of rock star.” (08:09)
On Gene Hackman’s Overlooked Consistency:
“There’s something to be said about that greatness that is so steady that it goes unnoticed. And that’s what I believe Gene Hackman had.” (16:11)
Raw Tribute (David Johansen):
“He will forever ever be missed.” (13:45)
Rock’n’Roll Animal Story:
“Killing time at a strip club in the afternoon on tour for a rock and roll band is about as rock and roll as it gets.” (38:57)
Addressing Gender Critique:
“There just isn’t all that much true crime from women in the world of music...But I think, you know, on, you know, on balance, for humanity’s sake. Anyways, it’s a good thing.” (41:57)
Suggested Listening from the Archive:
Get Involved:
“No one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do—and that, well, that's just a disgrace.” (45:55)