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Jake Brennan
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If you feel like modern music culture doesn't reflect what you care about, then you're not alone. Disgraceland listeners realize that Kasm, a corporate algorithmic studio storytelling machine, keeps trying to sanitize music history, stripping out the true crime. Disgraceland exists to take these stories back. And now you can wear that rebellion by sporting some of our new merch. Long and short sleeved, Just say no to Chasm T shirts, Disgraceland hoodies, and our Zombie Elvis Johnny Paycheck approved black trucker hat. Our merch, like our content, is built for the musically obsessed. The self proclaimed discos who know that real music history is dangerous and far cooler than whatever the hell mainstream music culture is serving us up right now. This merch is way cool. I would wear every item in the shop. It's an exclusive and limited run. It's only available until September 30th, so order yours now at shopdisgraceland.com hey discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life? Just a touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland. The After Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the afterparty. This is the show after the show. The party after the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode. Episode we're talking about this week's full episode subject, Jimmy Buffett. We are rewinding back to our Scott Weiland episode, dipping back into the 36 chambers and we get into your voicemails, text DMs, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told. The kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, this goes. Let's get into it. All right. I am stoked to be talking to you guys here in Jimmy Buffett week. Part of what drew me in so deeply to Jimmy's story was when I was researching, I came across this great film from 1973 called Tarpon. Okay? It's a movie about Key west tarpon fishermen, many of whom are Jimmy Buffett's friends. Jimmy actually scored the film, and now this is long before Jimmy Buffett had anything resembling a hit. It's just a bunch of dudes in Key West, Florida in the early 70s fishing for this very specific type of fish in a very specific type of way. The characters range from the young, wild literary crowd that Jimmy Buffett was running with. Tom McGuin, Jim Harrison, Richard Brodigan, to old school Florida men of the sea. All of them are badass in their own way. I. I know just, you know, at face value you're thinking tarpon fisherman, but I'm telling you, badass in this movie. It looks and it sounds incredible and somehow this little documentary made by Orson Welles, cinematographer, by the way, guy by the name of Christian Odasso, and his brother in law, Guy De la Valdeni, if I'm saying that correctly, this little documentary about fishermen is super rock and roll. It's unlikely. I know that a movie named after a fish, that a movie about fishermen with music by Jimmy Buffett is rock and roll, but I'm telling you it is. You just got to see it. Tarpon, T, A, R, P O N. I found it on Apple. I think you can probably find it on YouTube. Check that out. I'm not just telling you this to, you know, tell you about a cool movie. I'm telling you this because this whole thing got me thinking about rock and roll movies in general. Meaning what movies are rock and roll? Not. Not what are the best music documentaries? Not what are the best music biopics. What are the best rock and roll movies? I did a little research and Consequence ran an article back in 2018 that they've since updated a couple of times. They say the following about the subject of rock and roll movies. They say, I'd argue that it's easier to identify a rock and roll movie than define one. Looking through this list, there are docs and biopics, concert films and musicals, movies with flick making and generation defining soundtracks, and films that don't seem to have very much to do with music at all. And yet they like they should be categorized under the old devil horns. In some way. They boast a common ethos, carry a certain swagger, and feel rebellious in their own often unlikely ways. Tarpon has swagger, okay. And then some. I, I can relate to consequence here. I know what they mean when they say you know a rock and roll movie when you see it. I don't think they said that directly, but that's essentially what they said. It's true. You know, they're. I don't want to, I don't want to burn my suggestions here or. Nor do burn their list. They have a Great list of 50 Rock and roll movies. I'm going to give you the top 10 because it's. It's interesting. Number 10, Wayne's World. Now. Great movie. Just showed this movie to my kids last weekend. To an 11 year old and a 7 year old. And if you have kids that age and you're into music and you're worried about what your kids can consume and handle, don't worry about Wayne's World. The sex stuff is gonna fly right over their heads. Number nine, Dazed and Confused. Now this one for me really hits the definition of a rock and roll movie. It's not necessarily rock and roll or about rock and roll, but it has rock and roll spirit at its core. It's not, of course, it's not a documentary. It's not about a band. Just Dazed and Confused. It's about as rock and roll as it gets. Blues Brothers also nails my definition of what a rock and roll movie is. Fantastic. Even though I guess you could call blues. It's got rebellion at its core. These guys are about as antisocial as it gets. Fantastic. So I love Blues Brothers here at eight. Number seven, High Fidelity. Also one of these movies just I. I think a high fidelity guys kind of off topic. And it's one of those pieces of media that I. I'm grateful I was alive in at the age I was when it came out. Both the book and the film, just incredible storytelling. Fantastic. And yes, a great rock and roll movie. Number six, they've got a concert film here. Number six, Stop Making Sense by Talking Heads. Now I don't know if I would have this on my list of top 10 if I had a list of top 10. I don't even know. Is it my favorite concert film? I don't know. No, it's not. Is it top 10? Probably. I don't. Man, I don't know. I'm just gonna leave this one here. Number five. Okay. The Graduate. I get it. I totally get it. Consequence points out that this 1967 film is one of the earliest examples of a movie using pop songs as its musical score, which is true. However, later on, Seth and I are going to give you our recommendations for the greatest rock and roll movies. And I'm going to give you another movie from back in the day that what consequences saying the Graduate did so well. That actually did it better right around the same time. A little later, but right around the same time. At least they did it in more of a rock and roll way with this film that I'm going to recommend. And again, that'll be in the exclusive section of this episode for Disgrace and All Access members. Seth and my recommendations on great rock and roll movies. Number four from Consequence, Rocky Horror Picture Show. Now, I've never seen it. Not my thing. Not a theater kid. No shade to anyone who has seen it or is into this. I have fond memories of being a teenager and marveling at the Rocky Horror kids lined up outside the Harvard Square Movie Theater. Brattle Street Theater. Is that the one? Is that what it was called on Saturday nights? Saturdays or Fridays? I think it was Saturdays, waiting to see this movie. They showed it at midnight every weekend. Pretty awesome. I get it. This movie was a phenomenon. I totally get it. Number three, Almost Famous. This one I wouldn't have on my list. Definitely wouldn't have top 10. It's a little too on the nose. Okay? It's just. I mean, I get why it's here, but if I was going to include a Cameron Crow movie that was rock and roll indicative of a rock and roll film, I would include not Almost Famous. I would include Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Now, I know Cameron Crowe didn't make that movie, but it's based on. He wrote the screenplay. Or it's. It's either he wrote the screenplay or it's based on an article he wrote for Playboy. I can't remember. But either way, the soul of that movie is Cameron Crowe. Number two, this is Spinal Tap. Totally get it. Could make a case for number one for this movie. Even though it's a mockumentary, it's just. It stands alone in its glory. It's so good. I have not seen the new Spinal Tap yet. I'm waiting to show my 11 year old and possibly my 7 year old the original before I see the sequel. And I really hope the sequel doesn't suck. Let me know if you guys have seen. I know some of you have, but I want to hear from others who have. Number one. And this is where Consequence goes off the rails with this list. Number one, Purple Rain. Come on. I don't know, man. Ah, this is tough. This is really tough because Purple Rain is not a good movie, never mind a good rock and roll movie. I love Purple Rain, the album. I love Prince, and I love. I guess if I'm scrolling the channels and Purple Rain comes on, I'll stop for a couple minutes and watch it. Because it's fun to laugh at, but not a good film. Anyways, Consequence missed a few others. One in particular that is so perfect, so undeniably rock and roll, that I couldn't believe it wasn't on this list. At least not in the top 10. It's got everything. It's got blood, it's got myth, it's got rebellion. It's pure rock. Pure rock and roll, I should say. Pure rock and roll. And Seth and I are going to break down in the exclusive section of this episode coming up what that movie is, why it's so great, along with some more of our rock and roll film recommendations. But first, back to Jimmy Buffett. If you listened to the Jimmy Buffett episode that we just dropped in your feed, you will have heard a bit about Jimmy and his publicist being violently attacked by a man I called God's own badass, Buford Pusser, who is one of 20th century America's most legendary characters. Now, I won't repeat myself, but Buford Pusser inspired numerous movies and television shows, most notably the film Walking Tall. Buford was a violent, vengeful, fueled man in real life whose goal was to avenge the murder of his wife. Well, we recently learned, like, a couple days ago as we're putting this episode together, actually, as the episode was already put together and shipped, we learned new evidence. We learned that new evidence. This is how they're terming it. We learned that new evidence suggests that old Buford here was actually the one who killed his wife. Which is fucking wild when you think about it. This dude built a myth around himself. He built himself into legendary status as the guy who avenged his wife's death and. And got to their killers, and it turns out he was the killer. Okay, I'm still wrapping my head around this. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. There's a special section of hell for people like this. It's like, how fucked up do you have to be to carry on this lifelong charade and cash in on it over and over and over again up until recently? Unbelievable. Anyway, my point, I guess one of my points here is that this is just one more example of just how many fascinating stories, specifically myth busting stories, exist in relation to the artists that we talk about here every week. It's too much, oftentimes too much to fit into our 30 minute episodes quite literally. There is excess, excess. And we've got a pretty smart, fun way of dealing with this issue. Turning a problem into a solution here that's going to help us bring you guys something new and exciting couple more times per month and we'll have more on this soon. I'm excited for you to hear about it. That's coming up in the next couple weeks. We'll be announcing that. What I have for you guys now though is I got some exciting news right now. Matt, give me a little drum roll. Go for it. All right. I'm announcing right here, right now, ladies and gentlemen, we have new merchandise. Yes. Brands spaking new T shirts, hats and hoodies. The T shirts, the classic just say no logo on the front and on the back, this Nirvana inspired design. Nirvana T shirt inspired design. Corporate algorithmic studio storytelling machine with the circle and slashed through it on the back with Disgraceland on the sleeve. You can literally wear your rebellion on your sleeves, ladies and gentlemen, with these just say no to chasm long and short sleeve T shirts. We've also got a trucker hat. Perfect. It's all black. The Zombie Elvis Disgraceland logo on the front. It's ready for your noggin. Ready for your dashboard. Ready for your next mug shot in the hoodies. Got a bunch of hoodies and a bunch of different colors. All right. But here's the thing. This merch run is super limited. You got to get your size and selection in ASAP before we run out on September 30th. Go to shop disgraceland.com or just head to our website to grab your Disgraceland merch while it lasts. And thank you in advance for doing so. All proceeds go to supporting the preservation of real music history storytelling. I'll be back in a flash and we'll hear from you guys with your voicemails and texts.
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Jake Brennan
All right, guys, we're back. I want to do something a little different here right now. Let's take a little cruise through the music headlines of the day. Right now, if I go to billboard.com the headline is Bad Bunny. Edgar Barrera and Casrel and Paco lead 2025 Latin Grammy nominations. Full List. I don't care about that one bit. No shade to Latin music. It's just I'm not not a big Bad Bunny or whatever fan. Other headline Cardi B Reveals She's Expecting fourth Child. That doesn't interest me all that much. Over on Pitchfork, pitchfork.com the headline says, why do I keep getting mad at Coachella lineups? What's wrong with me? Okay, I can kind of get with that. I understand that. And then there's something here about Nico Case getting better with age. And I can get with that too. But E. Jarvis winning the Polaris Music Prize in 2025. I'm sad to say I don't know who E. Jarvis is. I probably should. There are some reviews of artists by the names of Mark Williams, Lewis Bronto, and another thing called who's this guy? Mr. Ed Sheering. Heard of him? Not interested. Rollingstone.com for Cardi B. Her life is the album rollout. Again, not that interesting. I'm not that interested in Cardi B. Justin Bieber scores seven Figure Coachella payday. He's fully in the driver's seat. Good for Mr. Bieber, I'm happy he's getting paid. Looks like he could put a couple shekels in the bank. But overall, you know, this stuff, it just does not. You know, I look. I look every day. I don't. I don't actually go to the websites, but I do have Twitter notifications, X notifications, excuse me, that are almost entirely music based. And little that is coming out of modern day music is captivating me or holding my attention. And I sense that you guys are like me, and you feel that today's music culture does not reflect the things that you care about. And I'm just grateful. I'm grateful knowing that I am not alone. And I want you guys to know that you're not alone either. Obviously, this is why Disgraceland exists. In part, it's because music history is far more entertaining and interesting than modern music. Music history is dangerous. Modern music is safe. Music history is exciting. Modern music bores the hell out of me for the most part. And the music industry and Chasm and all the rest, they want to sanitize music history. They want to keep it boring. This isn't an old guy thing either. If you think it is, you know, whatever, that's your prerogative. I'm just here to say things are not as interesting as they were then. I was there, so were most of you. We saw it happen, and we knew then that what we were consuming, yeah, it was Kurt, Courtney, name it, you know, Tupac, whoever. It was, right? We knew then that, yeah, things were good, things were great. But 20 years prior to that, things were also great. 30 years prior to that, things were also fucking unbelievably cool. I've always felt this way. This is not new. This is not an old guy thing. Even back when I was 15 years old and reading Rolling Stone, I felt that way. Even back when I was 15 years old and I was reading about the Rolling Stones, I felt this way, okay? Music history has always compelled me, and it still does, and I know it does. So for countless Disgraceland listeners as well, who are in the chat over with me and Patreon every week, obsessing over these stories and more on a daily basis, pretty much. Which artists should we cover next in Disgraceland? Which rock and roll locations have we yet to visit in person, but desperately want to, what are our weekend music listening plans? What musical events shaped us as kids in. And most important, when exactly is the new season of slow horses coming? Okay, that's not the most important, but you get my point. These are the things that we're talking about over in the Patreon chat and you should join us over there because you will find a like minded community of people who know what's up when it comes to music and music history. If you want access to that, if you want access to Zeth and I on the regular, if you want no ads in your Disgraceland episodes, go to Disgracelandpod.com membership become a member of our little club for just five bucks a month before prices go up in a couple weeks. All right, this week, as you know, we've got a new episode on Jimmy Buffett in the rewind slot. We're hitting our episode on Scott Weiland from Stone Temple Pilots coming up next week, we're dipping back into the Wu Tang story. Question of the week though. I'm gonna ride this rock and roll movie topic because I find it to be endlessly interesting. Lots of options here. So question of the week. What are your favorite rock and roll movies? I love this topic. I want to keep discussing it with you guys. So get at me. 617-9068. Let me know what your favorite rock and roll movies are and why you think they're rock and roll. All right? And if you want to hear mine and zest answers to this question, our rock and roll cinema recommendations jump into the exclusive section of this episode coming up shortly. But for now, I'm in the phone booth. It's the one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone with you guys. And last week's question of the week relevant to our Jimmy Buffett episode was which musician or band did you once despise that you now kind of love? 775 texts in hey Jake. On the topic of artists we used to hate but now can't get enough of? I can't pinpoint a single artist, however. I used to hate country music, but I find myself more often than not listening to country music these days. It started with Dwight Yocum and it just grew from there. Rocka Rolla. Listen, guys, get your country recommendations in for the 775. Let's turn them on or her. I can't tell if this is a guy or a gal. Let's turn them on to some great country music. Dwight Yoakum's awesome, but there's a ton out there, especially the classic honky tonk stuff from the 50s and the 60s. Johnny Paycheck, George Jones, Merle Haggart. That's my Steez Mo Bandy. Check that out. All right, Nathan Texan from the 5, 1, 2. I like your content and look forward to more. Thank you for keeping it real deep and just a bit dark. You got it, Nathan. We're never going to stop. Let's check out this voicemail from the 505. The 505 is calling us, I believe, real late at night or real early in the morning, I can't tell. And the 505 takes a minute to get into his story, so just bear with him. You're going to want to hear the end. It's worth it.
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Listener Niall
Hey Jake, this is Niall in Santa Fe and I, I guess I'm a friend of a friend of a mother of a son of a son of a sailor. Like I said, no friend, it's just a cop. But anyway, he told me about this cop and I think it was Alabama that pulled over this old, old beat up car, you know, like broken tail light, bald tires, kind of a mess of a car. And this cop pulls this older lady over and asked for the driver's license and she answered to it and the last name is Buffett. And the cop says, excuse me ma', am, but it wouldn't be any relation to Jimmy Buffett, would you? And she's like, yeah, I'm his mother. He's like, really? Do you have Jimmy's number in your phone? She's like, yeah, of course. Could you give him a call? And she's like, yeah, sure. She calls up Jimmy Buffett, hands the phone to the cop and the cop says, jimmy, we know you make enough money. You need to really take care of your mother. You need to get her a new car because this goes through all the problems with her mom, with his mom's car, but I thought it was pretty funny. Anyway, thanks for all you do. We love you. Bye bye.
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Jake Brennan
617-906-6638 if you guys want to get at me voicemail and text with anything, question of the week or otherwise, anything related to Disgraceland, anything related to great music, you can send me a text, you can leave me a voicemail. You can also email me disgraceland pod gmail.com Tammy R. Odell writes hey Jake and Seth, I'm a long time listener and first time contributor. I love podcasts and I appreciate all the research you and your team and your dad puts into these shows. I too am a true Generation X, vinyl playing, cassette loving, recording from radio. Give me any kind of music except bluegrass kind of gal. Additionally, I'm a Tennessee native. I'm still here so of course I zeroed in when you mentioned Another past Tennessee resident, Buford Pusser, in the latest episode featuring Jimmy Buffett. Love his music. Also, while Pusser lived in West Tennessee, I hail from Middle Tennessee, the 931, as close to East Tennessee as you can get. I'm about a four and a half ride away from McNary County. However, I had relatives that lived very close to Adamsville, so we heard these stories quite often. I grew up hearing all the Buford Puser adventures watching the movies, and like many Tennessee citizens, felt as if he was a small town hero for cleaning up McNary county as he did. Imagine my surprise when a scant few weeks ago I spot a news story online regarding a Tennessee Bureau of Investigations press conference that had just taken place. And the subject, the results of the investigation into the death of Pauline Pusser. Pucer. I don't know how to fucking pronounce this. Buford's wife, who had been killed in an ambush in 1967. Who was responsible? Asked I. Well, per the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, it was Buford Pusser himself. I dove headfirst in a reading all about this. Yes, per the tbi, the ambush didn't happen or definitely did not happen the way Buford described it. And after going back through case files and exhuming Buford's wife's body for another examination, the investigators determined there was enough evidence that there was no question Buford Pusser killed his wife that day. The reactions I have read online have been all over the place. It's crazy time, folks. I'm including a link to the press conference. I know this story wouldn't fit on Disgraceland, but in a slight way, it might fit on Hollywood. Hollywoodland. The day he died, per rumor, he had agreed to play himself in the second Walking Tall movie. It is a truly fascinating tale. Thanks guys, for the many hours of listening you have provided me. Tammy, thank you for the great email and thank you for summarizing this incredible story that's really developing, developed over the last couple weeks relevant to our Jimmy Buffett episode here. Just, I'm flabbergasted. I, I, you know, like this is, we need a new movie now. We need another Buford Puser movie, Pusser, whatever the fuck the guy's name is pronounced as. We need another one of these movies that tells the real story. Shit, Tammy, maybe you can write it. All right, 617906, 6638. You guys want to hook me up? Voicemail and text. I'll be back after this.
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Jake Brennan
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Jake Brennan
Hollywood lost a legend this week with the passing of Robert Redford. Seth Lundy has a great tribute to Sundance Kid over in the Hollywood Rap Party episode this week. Check that out if you haven't already. Here's a little taste.
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Seth Lundy
My personal history with Robert Redford in his movies is that they represented for me an introduction to more sophisticated cinema. That big step from the kinds of things I watched as a kid, which primarily was like the Muppet show nonstop into a more adult world. And in particular the Sting, the George Roy hill movie from 1973 co starring Paul Newman. That played a huge role in my life when it came to that sort of leveling up as to the sorts of things I was watching. This was another one of my grandmother's favorite movies. I've talked about this before and you know, I don't think I give her enough credit when it comes to cementing my love of cinema from a really early age. I'm realizing through recording these Rat Party episodes that a lot of these major milestones in my personal movie viewing history were nights when I watched movies with my grandmother. But anyways, that's a whole other thing I need to explore.
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Jake Brennan
All right, if you want to hear Zeth and I talking about some movie wrecks that are rock and roll movie wrecks. That's coming right up in the exclusive section of this after party. If you're not yet an All Access member and can't access that conversation, do not sweat it. We'll just chill here and wait for you to head over to Disgracelandpod.com AllAccess and sign up for just five bucks a month before those prices go up in a couple of weeks. As you'll hear in this short clip coming up, Zeth and I come at these topics from different angles. But the cumulative list that we've put together here about undeniably great rock and roll movies surprised even me. One movie in particular, I think, changed the way that we all watch movies. And here's a short clip into the conversation between Seth and I that you may be missing out on by not being an All Access member. My second recommendation for rock and roll movie Mean streets, also from 1973, I almost included this. Yeah, I thought. I thought you were. And I also thought, you know what? He'll be smart enough to know I'm gonna include this so he won't do it. I think I subconsciously, I thought that. Yeah. Okay, here's why. A lot of people correctly attribute the Graduate as the film that changed the game from music, in movies, in Cinema, the Graduates, 1969, 68, something like that. So it's. It's before Mean Streets. And what the Graduate did was it used pop music as score. It used pop music in a way that hadn't been used really in film before that. It used pop music to. To. To run the emotion through the writing and the acting to the listener in the same way that scoring does. And it's hard. Is one another one of those things. It's hard to think about now, to think of a time before that in movies where. Where songs weren't used to make you feel something, where it was just score. Unless you're talking about musicals, but those are almost a different medium. So the Graduate did it first, but it's like saying, you know, Ike Turner did rock and roll first before Elvis. Mean Streets is more like the Elvis version of what the Graduate was doing. Elvis is a bad analogy because Mean Streets is so grittier and more rock.
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Seth Lundy
I know. I know what you mean.
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Jake Brennan
It's more explosive. That's my point.
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Seth Lundy
Yeah.
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Jake Brennan
You know what I mean? And I just like, I don't care, man. You see De Niro walking into that bar to Jumping Jack Flash, and it's. It's Revel. It's like I. I've never seen anything like that in my life. It still gives me chills. It gives me chills even just thinking about it. All right, guys, while those of you sign up for disgrace and all access and or eagerly await our imminent conversation on rock and roll movies, I'm gonna hit this bottle of Five Hour Energy here and gear up for hopefully two weeks in a row of successfully delivering my 60 second sports rant in under 30 seconds. The 60 second sports rant in under 30seconds is sponsored by Five Hour Energy. Five Hour Energy shots bring tasty caffeine and 17 flavors. Head to your local retailer www.fivehourenergy.com or Amazon to order yours today. Matt, give me the ticker. Guys, what is college football? I want to become a fan, but I grew up in New England where college football means something totally different than it does down here in the south or out West. The Red Sox are doomed for an early playoff exit. I fear the Patriots are barely even a professional football team at this point. And yeah, I know they won last weekend, but they gave up 27 points to the Miami fricking Dolphins and missed two extra points. So I need something else in sports to get excited about. Is it college football? Do I root for the Florida Gators? The Fighting Irish? What even is a college football division? Why are there college football team rankings? Who ranks the teams? Doesn't this seem a bit arbitrary? Why isn't a win loss record good enough? There are bowl games and playoffs and a championship and I have no idea what is happening on Saturday. Somebody get Pat McAfee to call me. Explain this whole thing because I can't take only having this Patriots team to root for for the rest of fall and early winter. Matt, how did I do? 56 seconds, Jake. So got under a minute, but not under the 30 seconds. Well, I guess I just gotta. I gotta. I gotta dig in. I gotta do better next week. That was the sports rant sponsored by five Hour Energy. Enjoy a variety of bold flavors with as much caffeine as a 12 ounce premium cup of coffee, zero sugar and zero crash. Give your caffeine a flavor upgrade with 5 hour energy shots. Get yours in stores and online at www.fivehourenergy.com or Amazon today. Great rock and roll recommendations coming up for All Access members. Right now, you want in on that conversation and on the movies that rewrote the rules of storytelling? Join us. Not next week, not when the prices go up. Join us now.
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Listener Niall
Foreign.
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Jake Brennan
Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back. I'm about to take off. Guys, real quick. If you listen to this episode, which you did, because you're here, about 20, 30 minutes into it, we talked about the Rolling Stones, we talked about Talking Heads, we talked about Prince. We have episodes on all of those artists in our archive of now. 250 episodes. That's right. We hit 250 full episodes of Disgraceland this week with our Jimmy Buffett story. Get in there, guys. There's a lot for you to listen to. And if you have questions, hit me up and let me know. If you want. You want some help navigating around to find your favorite artists and artists you might have from a different genre of music. Music. Yeah. I was talking to this guy yesterday. I was filming this thing, and it was a promo thing, and I was talking to the director who was shooting it, and he was going on and on about how much he loved his Graceland, and he was telling me about specific episodes. He's listened to the writings, like specific pieces of writing that we've done, and he clearly had listened a lot to a lot of stuff. And he was like, man, you know, you know, you know, like, just, why don't you do a Grateful Dead episode? Or he said something like that, like, my man, we have two. So my point is, you may think you're well versed in what's in the Disgraceland archive, but we have so much. So if you have a question about an artist, hit me up. 617-906-6638. Voicemail and text. Disgracelandpod on the socials. Easier to get in touch with me over in the Patreon chat or text or voicemail, but I'm around and easy to get at, and I can point out, point you in the right direction. All right, let's recap, shall we? Number one, this week's full episode on Jimmy Buffett is available for you to listen to right now. Number two, we are rewinding with Scott Weiland from the Stone Temple Pilots in the rewind slot coming up right after this episode. Then next week, we dip back into the Wu Tang 36 chambers. Number four, on Hollywoodland right now, Johnny Depp, 561-7-906-6638. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history. So keep calling, keep texting, keep giving us something to talk about. I appreciate hearing from you every single week. Number six, do not forget discos. This isn't just content, it's community. A community of the obsessed. And no one cares about music. Books, records, and the crime and grime that ties them all together like you do. And, well, that's a disgrace. All right. On February 14, 1977, Jimmy Buffett released the song Margaritaville. And nothing would be the same in Key West, Florida, Florida, ever again. Here's what America was listening to on that day, according to the billboard charts. Number one Torn between two lovers, Mary McGregor. Last week one Peak position one Weeks on chart 13. Number two New kid in town, Eagles. Last week four Peak position two Weeks on chart nine Number three Blinded by the Light, Manford Man's Earth band. Last week 6 Peak position 3 weeks on chart 13. Number 4 Car wash rolls Royce. Last week 2 Peak position 1 weeks on chart 17. Number 5 Evergreen. Quit talking and start mixing. Cut it. Mike and Alyssa are always trying to outdo each other. When Alyssa got a small water bottle, Mike showed up with a 4 liter jug. When Mike started gardening, Alyssa started. Oh, come on. They called a truce for their holiday and used Expedia trip planner to collaborate on all the details of their trip. Once there, Mike still did more laps around the pool. Whatever. You were made to outdo your holidays. We were made to help organize the competition. Expedia made to travel.