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Jake Brennan
Hey Discos, need a little more Disgrace Land in your life? Just a touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland. The After Foreign welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the After Party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard to dig into the dirt on this bonus episode, we are talking about Chris Cornell. We are previewing the coming episode on Winona Ryder, talking artists with follow up bands that were more impactful than their breakthroughs. And we get into Your voicemails, texts, DMs, emails and as always, a whole lot. Rosie all right discos, let's get into it. All right, Chris Cornell. This week's full episode subject broke through obviously in Soundgarden and then went to find success in Audio sleeve. The question of the week this week was what artist had more impact in their follow up band than they did in their breakthrough band. Obviously Chris Cornell's career inspired this question. Now for the record, I'm leaving off people like Dave Navarro, who went from Jane's Addiction to the Red Hot Chili Peppers. It's a bit of a nuanced reason, but it's because Chili Peppers weren't really Navarro's band. He joined pretty much as a sideman, wasn't even a full member in my opinion, so he doesn't qualify. Neither does someone like Ronnie James Dio, who left Black Sabbath to have a successful solo career. We're talking groups here, okay? Making it into groups, two bands is a much harder achievement in my estimation. Those artists who break through with one band and then repeat their success or then they surpass their previous success in another group, that's huge. That is not easy. So I was surprised to learn that Soundgarden has sold significantly more albums than Audioslave. 30 million for Soundgarden to just 8 million for Audioslave. The boys in Guns N Roses, they did not fare better with Velvet Revolver. GNR is a significantly bigger band than Velvet Revolver, as was Stone Temple Pilots. Here's one, though. Bit of left field. Not really. I wouldn't have thought of this. I looked it up this morning. Bel Biv Devoe. Much bigger group for Ronnie, Ricky and Michael than New Edition. Okay, what about Blur and Gorillaz? This. This one is shocking to me. Okay. Gorillaz have sold far more albums than blur. Something like 40 million to 6 million. Gorillaz. That is incredible. It's amazing. He'll always be Damon from Blur to me, though. Kim Deal's Breeders album, Last Splash, has supposedly sold more than all of the Pixies albums combined. I don't know. I read that and I think the Internet might be fucking with me on this one. This does not sound like it's right, but yeah, Cannonball man. Crazy. Here's a super relevant one because we were talking about this a couple weeks ago. Two after parties ago, I believe we were talking about Joy Division and New Order. By the way, I know I'm supposed to have an update on the Rock and Roll hall of Fame inductees, but I'm recording this after party way earlier than I normally do because we need to get it produced in advance because of some vacation stuff that's going on. School vacation, that sort of thing. So I don't have the nominee Rock and Roll hall of Fame inductee. Excuse me, Inductee update for you just yet, but when we were talking about this a couple epis ago, a couple bonus episodes ago, we were talking about Joy Division and New Order as potential. They're nominated. They might be inducted. I don't think they're going to get in. I don't understand why they're. They're being inducted as two groups. That doesn't make any fucking sense. But, you know, after, of course, Ian Curtis died, Peter Hook, Stephen Morris and Bernard Summer went on to form New Order and Soldiers. Way more, way more records than Joy Division. But I'm guessing not as many T shirts. Should sales be the final deciding element here? I don't know. I think so because sales usually correlate with radio play, video play, and cultural impact. Except maybe in the case of Breeders versus the Pixies. To me, the Pixies are way more culturally impactful. They've been doing this for so long and I feel like they've. They've just. They've touched more people. It's anecdotal, but that's how I feel. I'm curious what you guys think on the. On the Pixies Breeders question. I think we have to mention Dave Mustang here, who, after getting booted from Metallica, went on to form Megadeth. They never did what Metallica did, and Dave is still crying about it. But they are one of the top four thrash bands of all time, along with Metallica, Slayer and Anthrax. Part of the so called big four. Who else? Who else? Eric Clapton. From Yardbirds to Cream to Derek in the Dominoes. Does he get it for doing it three times? I guess you could make the case, but Yardbirds weren't really his band, were they? I don't know. Is this the right answer? Derek and the Dominoes. One album and not a very good one. This feels like a. A cheap win, if it's a win at all. Paul McCartney jumping from Beatles to Wings is worthy of our consideration, despite the fact that Wings were obviously not as big as the Beatles. The big one here is, of course, Foo Fighters. Dave Grohl going on to just, you know, have this incredible career with Foo Fighters after being the drummer in Nirvana. And I think you got to give a special tip of the hat to Dave Grohl for going from playing drums to fronting the band. But. But I was a little surprised by this one, too. Foo Fighters have sold half as many albums as Nirvana. I get that Nirvana is truly iconic, but I would think the amount of time Foo Fighters have been around, I thought there was a chance they actually sold more records, but no, it's like 72, 75 million for Nirvana and something like 32, 35 million for Foo Fighters, so there you go. What about Steve Malchimas going from Pavement to the Heavy Quartet, though? I'm just kidding. I just wanted to mention the Heavy Quartet. Okay. I think. I think those are our contenders. I don't think I'm really forgetting anyone of significance, but you guys are going to let me know when I get to the phone calls. What is the answer? Okay, which second act was more impactful than the first? Surprisingly, I'm very surprised by this, but I think the answer is Damon Alburn and Gorillaz. I think Gorillaz over Blur. Those record sales numbers are no joke, and they dwarf Blur's success. I knew Blur never sold a ton of records beyond the uk, but I would never have guessed that gorillas were bigger. I should have known. I should have known. So that's my answer. Damon Alburn. That's right. I don't know. Maybe you can make the case for Belle Biv DeVoe as well. But my gut tells me more people think about Blur than they do New Edition. So that's why I give it to Gorillaz over Belle Biv DeVoe. But maybe that's just my side of the street. Then again, I grew up illegally buying beer in Boston's Combat Zone, so I know a little thing or two about New Edition, but I want to know what you guys think. We're going to get to your answers on this question shortly, but first, I have to tell you about this week's Rewind Archive episode coming your way right after this bonus episode. It's on. Matt, give us a little drum roll. Go ahead. All right, it's on. Iggy Pop. David Bowie fans, you're not going to want to miss this one either. Bowie's a big part of Iggy's story. Bowie's a big part of this episode. Lots of other cool people show up in this episode, too. Miles Davis, Dennis Hopper, a bunch of our subjects. So if you haven't heard our Iggy Pop episode, you're gonna love it. And if you have, you're in for a treat when you re listen to it. Coming up after that, on Tuesday, we've got our episode on Winona Ryder. And Winona is, of course, pretty rock and roll, which is why we thought to feature her in Disgraceland. Winona, however, is the last of our icon series artists and will eventually find her way into the Hollywoodland archive as Disgraceland becomes once again solely music content. But for now, you've got Mrs. Johnny Depp. Not really, but sort of coming your way. Next week, Winona Ryder. Okay, this all brings us to next week's Question of the Week. When you're listening to the Winona Ryder episode, be thinking about all those iconic 80s and 90s female starlets. And let me know if Winona is Gen X's most iconic female actor. If not Winona, then who? Drew Barrymore? Cameron Diaz? Who is it? Let me know. 617-906-6638 Heather Graham, leave me a voicemail. Send me a text. Not you, Heather Graham. You guys, send me a voicemail. Leave me a text, let me know if Heather Graham is more iconic than Winona Ryder or Drew Barrymore. Who is it? Disgraceand pod on the socials. All right, I'm gonna take a quick break. I'll be hanging on the telephone on the other side with your voicemails, texts and DMs. Foreign.
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Jake Brennan
All right. 617-906-6638. You know where I'm at? I'm in the phone booth. It's the one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone or you wanna send me a V? You want to send me a text? That's how you do it. Let's check out this one from. Who we looking at here? The 76 5.
Metalhead Mundy
Jake, what's up? Metalhead Mundy from the 765 North Central Indiana coming at you. You asked about artists that their follow up projects were better, more influential, whatever, than their original breakthrough projects. I'm gonna go with Neil Young dude, Buffalo Springfield. I Mean, you know, they were good, they had a hit, right? But man, Neil Young went on to become Neil Young. I mean, totally influential, great music, decades long career still going. Neil Young all the way, man.
Jake Brennan
Rocka Rolla Metalhead Mundy. I appreciate you, brother. Listen, kind of breaking my own rule here, only because, look, Neil Young solo artist. So I'm not counting the solo artists. I should have said that, I guess, when I posed the question, but I thought it was obvious because the group piece of this is so key. However, Crosby, Stills, Nash and whoever the fuck, AKA Neil Young. As I once said, Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, you could make the argument that you're trying to make here for Neil relevant to Buffalo Springfield. Let's check out the two seven zero.
Todd
Hey, Jake, not Jack. This is Todd, not Tim, from the 270Nashville area. But your question about the artist who had a second band or whatever impact or whatever, it's probably an obvious choice. I guess I gotta go with Dave Grohl. Does that count? Obviously drummer for Nirvana and then frontman, main guy for the Foo Fighters. I guess Foo Fighters not may probably not as impactful, but nonetheless, for 30 years now been very relevant. Dave Grove's very relevant. So anyway, I. I'm gonna go with that one. And maybe a minor shout out to Josh Hame, who was in Caius and then formed Queens of the Stone Age. And that's probably a reach. Anyway, thank you, man. Thank you for your content, as always. Love it.
Jake Brennan
All right. Todd, Not Tim. You know. Yeah. I feel like Foo Fighters are so impactful despite their record sales not being as much as Nirvana's, that it's hard not to give it to him. It's hard to go with gorillas. I feel like if you answered this question that I'm posing at a party and came at people with gorillas over Foo Fighters, you get shouted down. Just the Foo Fighters, I guess. Dave. It's Dave Grohl's celebrity. He's just. He's turned himself into something that is beyond anything Damon Alburn had turned himself into after Blur and I guess the scale, because Foo Fighters have sold right around. That's weird too. They've only sold as many albums as Gorillaz. Crazy. Crazy. I guess Gorillas are just huge internationally and I just have an American point of view on this. I don't know. Fascinating question, though. Thanks, Todd, not tim. All right. 617-906-6638. You can send me a voicemail like Todd, not Tim, like Metalhead Monday. Or you can send me a text like the 909 who writes hey Jake, Luke here with a quick note. Pursuant to your Billy Idol afterparty, I'm at a club to see a punk show. The after show playlist includes 100 pun X nearly 50 years on and it still kills his bumper music after a punk show. 909, thank you for the text. Who'd you go see? I want to know. Let me know anyone who wonders what 909 is texting about because we just had this Billy Idol episode in our feed of Disgrace Land. You can check that out. 910 writes in hey Jake, I was listening to your thoughts on Marilyn Manson's autobiography and I wanted to mention when will you get around to doing a Nine Inch Nails episode? There's lots of debauchery to be had. Anyway, I will keep listening. Thank you. 910 well, yeah, I had the same thought because Trent obviously is a big part of Marilyn Manson's story. There's a lot of Trent debauchery in the Marilyn Manson book. I do think a Nine Inch Nails episode. I don't know. I don't know how soon on the heels of Marilyn Manson, but soonish because I'm very interested. For no other reason. 937 Jimmy Page has to be the answer to the artist who had more successful later. Groot. What? Oh, I guess you're saying, yeah, Led Zeppelin compared to the Yardbirds. But the Yardbirds weren't really Jimmy Page's group. I mean, he was in the group, but you know what I'm saying. 937 goes on to say, speaking of Led Zeppelin, I remember running the streets of Boston with my Walkman and I went to switch out my Van Halen Fair Warning cassette with the Led Zeppelin cassette I had in the front of my champion hoodie and it was gone. I was devastated. I only find peace with the hope that a young kid perhaps found it and grew a love for music, maybe even started playing music, and perhaps with any luck, started a podcast about musicians behaving badly. But what's the chance of that Rocka Rolla bill from the 937bill's referring, of course, to the story I've told before about how I got into Led Zeppelin, which was I was walking in my backyard one morning in the fourth grade and I literally found Led Zeppelin 1 in cassette in the Dewey grass. It was in its case, so it was fine. And I brought it inside my house and I put it in my stereo and good times, bad times came on and my life was forever changed in that moment had never heard Led Zeppelin before. And I don't know, Bill, let's just, let's say. Yeah, let's say, Bill, we finally connected after all these years. But Boston, to where I grew up, was about 35 miles, so unless it was on the wings of a jeep, jeez, I don't know. Some Led Zeppelin like Medieval Bird flying down across the Mass Turnpike out into the burbs. I doubt very much that it's the same cassette, but I'm going to believe it. Just for the. Just for the poetic license. Thank you, Bill. 617-906-6638 Send me a voicemail or text the Scrampod on the socials Ashley Neal writes in on Facebook Jake, I've been listening to Disgraceland since 2020ish slogging at my shit job. You have helped keep me sane. Love the content Sincerely meant to call in and give my take on the question about the fave grunge band for the recent Alice in Chains Lane Staley episode, but didn't get around to it. Honestly, Alice in Chains is my favorite band. I was born in 1983 and I kind of missed out on them initially, but they've been a mainstay in my playlist for my entire teen and adult life. Lane's raw honesty in his lyrics, paired with Jerry's guitar and harmonizing vocals, just speaks to my soul. That being said, I was kind of surprised no one gave Stone Temple Pilots a nod, even though they didn't originate in Seattle. I feel like Cor and Scott Weiland in general really wove into that genre beautifully and were excellent. What can I say? Apparently my favorite rock stars were all heroin addicts. Last thing I've been racking my brain trying to remember a band name you mentioned as being rock and roll in a time where a lot of us consider rock and roll to be dead outside of the smaller scope, I feel like it had a C in the name. It's low cut, Connie. Low cut Connie Ashley okay. Another great band I've been listening to lately. New band Geese, who I'm sure you guys have heard of before. Not Goose, not the Goose. Geese. Geese. Okay. Stone Temple Pilots not being mentioned in the top ten greatest grunge bands. People have written in to voice. Same concern that Ashley has here. I left them off my list because I like Stone Temple Pilots, but they were just so contrived when they came out. They seemed like a laboratory version of what grunge should be, and I think a lot of people feel that way I think a lot of people feel that way also. Not that I think not being from Seattle is what I'm trying to say has something to do with it. As you mentioned, Ashley, Stone Temple Pilots remind me of our generation's version of Credence Clearwater Revival. Just like a great band, but completely inauthentic. You know, like CCR is singing about growing up in the swamps of Louisiana or whatever, and they're from San Francisco or wherever. They're from Northern California, just. They weren't from the bayou. That's all I'm saying. In Stone Temple Pilots just didn't seem like they were grunge beside the flannel. And I guess the sound. I mean, I. I get it, I get it, but I just. I disassociate them with that scene for some reason, and I. I suspect that others do as well. Not to take anything away from Stone Temple Pilots. I have grown to appreciate them. I did not. Back in the day, I guess I kind of did. Begrudgingly, but not on purpose. All right, guys, you want to connect on social disgracelandpod, on Facebook, on Instagram, on X, hit me up. All right, we started doing this new thing in the after party last week. We talk a lot here about voicemails. If you guys want me on your voicemail. Yes, me, myself, and I as the voice of your virtual answering machine. Me recording a message for you to have playing for whenever somebody calls and you're not there to pick up the phone. And honestly, who actually picks up the phone these days? So voice messages are more important than ever. That's what I'm saying. You know, something like, hey, it's Jake from Disgraceland, and you know, Gary ain't here right now. Gary's off at the replacement show. He can't come to the phone, so leave a message. Okay, Gary, you fucking perv, you want me to leave your voicemail for you? I got you. All right, listen, here's how you make it happen, though. You got to find the Easter egg. I was inspired by Easter. Easter just happened. I hope you all had a great holiday. He has risen. Christos Annesi from My Greek Friends. Anyways, I was inspired by Easter. I was thinking Easter, Easter eggs. What can we do? Oh, I know what we can do. There's tons of Easter eggs in our episodes. All I gotta do is find a question, ask it here. You guys dig into the episode, pull out the Easter egg, hit me back either on voicemail, on text, or on the DMs. Although this is the how you respond Might change because I don't know that the posting on social thing is gonna work because once you post it, then everybody can see it. The answer. Dig at a lot of text. Dig it. A lot of voicemails. With the answer to the Easter egg question, which was in the Sharon Tate Part 2 episode of Hollywoodland. Who did Sharon Tate ask for advice concerning her marital problems with Roman Polanski? Who did Sharon seek out for advice? That was the question. And the answer comes from this week's winner, Ryan in the two eight one.
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Jake Brennan
Easter egg is Elkie Summer. And there you go. Elkie Summer. That's the answer. Elkie Summer, fellow actress friend of Sharon Tate. So, Ryan, get in touch. Hit me back again. We will coordinate on how to get you this recording for your voicemail. If you have anything special you want me to say, we can work all that out. You want me to leave something a little curated, perhaps a little bespoke? I can do that. You want me to come up with something on the fly? I can do that as well. All right, hit me back. We'll get this going next week. Okay? You guys can win next week. Okay? You can win next time around. You know, the spin at the wheel here. Okay? And the question is going to be in the Robin Williams episode of this coming episode of Hollywoodland. Okay, we're coming up with a Robin Williams episode of Hollywoodland. In the most recent Robin Williams episode of Hollywoodland, the one that is at the top of your Hollywoodland feed right now, the question is, no, I like this one. I like this one because it's kind of unintentionally in the form of a joke. Okay, here's the question. In the Hollywoodland episode on Robin Williams, what did Robin Williams get from the prostitute when he turned 21? Head over to Hollywoodland. Dive into that Robin Williams episode, find the answer, and hit me at 617-906-6638. Leave me a voicemail, send me a text with your answer. I guess we're still gonna do this on social media. Be the first to post on Instagram. We pose this question, we'll see what happens. And again, the Easter egg answer is in the Robin Williams episode of Hollywood Land. The question is, what did Robin Williams get from the prostitute when he turned 21? All right, now for something totally different. My quick sports rant here. In under 30 seconds, which is probably just gonna be a little longer than 30 seconds, I showed my 7 year old and my 11 year old major League with Charlie Sheen, basically because they can't get enough baseball right now. And newsflash, this movie. This movie isn't as wildly offensive as Bad News Bears, which I love, by the way, but probably shouldn't have shown to my kid when he was 5. But major league is a hard R. If you're wondering an 80s r. 80s Rs are much harder than 90s or today's Rs. By the way, Hard R would be a great name for a band. Tough to pronounce though, right? Hard R. What's the name of your band? Hard R. What? No, it's not a good name. If you have to. If. If. When you give the name of your band, the next response is a question. It's not a good band name. It's not a good name for anything, actually, if that happens. So anyways, we made it through with Jake Taylor and the Wild Thing. My wife almost killed me before it was over, but it's basically one sex scene. Some naked dude's asses in the in the locker room in a torrent of F bombs. You can navigate through it with the remote is what I'm saying. Okay, put your phone down. You don't have to call social services on me. I'm just saying if you've got a baseball itch this spring and there isn't a game on or your team sucks, you can revisit Major League League with your kids. Even if they're seven years old and your wife is, you know, semi cool and you don't mind scarring your kids for life. All right, I'll be back in a flash with your emails in the Hollywoodland minute.
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All right, we are back and you know what time it is. It's time for the Hollywoodland Minute, brought to you by the Hollywoodland Podcast. Don't know what the Hollywoodland Podcast is? Well, the Hollywoodland Podcast is hosted by yours truly, where every week I tell you a story from the Annex of Hollywood and true crime. And right now there are over 40 episodes waiting for you to binge Episodes on Charlie Sheen, Robin Williams, David Lynch, John Waters, Danny Trejo, Marilyn Monro, Steve McQueen, Drew Barrymore, Jane Fonda, and more recently, the very talented and one of the dudes we miss the most, Robin Williams. Here's a clip. Robin had been trying to take it easy on the drugs After Belushi's death, the sudden realization that he was going to have a son made him finally get serious about sobriety and he quit booze and coke straight away. No 12 steps or therapy or feel good programs. Just coke. Cold turkey. A few weeks later, his next movie, outing the World According to Garp, hit theaters and the John Irving book became an almost instant hit at the box office. Things were finally looking up in more ways than one. Later in life, in a letter to his son Zach, Robin would write that his birth gave him a new sense of meaning and focus into his life. It also gave him plenty of new material. My God, it's a boy and he's hung like a bear. Wait, no, that's the umbilical cord. Of course, there were some habits Robin still couldn't break. One was his addiction to the rush of stand up comedy and the high that he got from the crowd. He'd find any excuse to leave Valerie behind with the baby in Napa and head to LA to indulge in another one of those infamous all night comedy marathons. He even learned to enjoy them without the help of mind altering substances. Which brings us to the other habit that Robin Williams couldn't break. Women. Robin had always messed around in the past. Valerie would either give him her blessing or at least forgive him. She knew her husband was a star. She couldn't help the fact that women threw themselves at him. Besides, he was out on the road a lot all by himself. But after Zach was born, it got harder for her to go along with it. She resented the fact that she was stuck at home with a baby while her husband was off gallivanting with some hot young thing. And Robin wasn't dumb. He knew it was getting to her. He tried to keep it in his pants for a while, but then another opportunity would present itself. And as Valerie once said, you'd have to be a saint to resist. And Robin was certainly no saint. God gave men a penis and a brain and only enough blood to use one at a time. All right guys, make sure you are subscribed to Hollywoodland on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Next week we have an episode on Phil Hartman coming your way and you are not going to want to miss that one. Okay, Disgracelandpodmail.com you guys want to hit me up about anything in the Disgraceland universe? That's a good way of doing it. Some people don't like the voicemails. Some people don't like the text machine. Some people like a good old fashioned email. Disgracelandpodmail.com okay, Jacques Coble writes in the Cramps Rock and roll is Dead sir, while listening to your podcast, I have been digesting your thoughts on music and art for the past week. I have let it randomly play on Spotify throughout my workday. I see validity in most every point you make, save one Rock is Dead. My first thought was Blue October and the song Hate Me. Lyrics that make Howlin Wolf, Bruce Springsteen and Robert Zimmerman blush at the shallowness of their own lyrics. The music is canned, the vocals are auto tuned, but the poetry is dangerous. Thank you. Well, I don't know about Blue October, but now I'm interested. Calling old Bobby D and Bruce Springsteen and Howlin Wolf. Shallow them. Some fighting words. You sure you want me to get into this? Appreciate you, Jack. You obviously thought about this question for some time. Michael Murphy writes in Yo Jake, I'm just wondering what happens once you've exhausted the Hollywoodland and Sportsland sides of the Badlands archive and all Access Icons material, What do you do for those rare celebrities you have touched on all three areas. Sports, film and music. I know you did the rock, but I'm thinking Hulk Hogan, Dennis Rodman, Shaq Arnold, maybe others. Let me know what you think. Rocka Rolla. Arnold Schwarzenegger. Well, come on. I mean, he could be at Hollywoodland. And Shaq and Dennis Rodman, Hulk Hogan, they're all athletes, so obviously Sportsland, man. Come on. I think what you're getting at here, Michael, is we need to make some new episodes. Is that what you're saying, Michael? Are you daring me to make even more content, Michael? More Sportsland content? Are you throwing down the gauntlet? Is that what's happening here, Michael? More, perhaps even more Hollywoodland content? Maybe these feeds, maybe what happens is once the Badlands archive is exhausted, as you say, once all these archive episodes have been once again re released in the Hollywoodland feed, maybe there's a Sportsland feed. Maybe there are new episodes in our future to keep these franchises humming, just as we're doing with Disgraceland. Maybe that's what's happening, Michael. I don't know. Just a thought. We shall see. Disgraceandpodmail.com you want to email me? I appreciate it. Just like I appreciate those reviews. You know about the reviews. They help with discovery. They help the show grow. They help people find Disgraceland, which is so important. We are independent. We are out there moving and shaking on our own. And in order for this show to grow, we need your help. And that comes in the form of reviews. And we appreciate it so, so, so, so much. So much that when you leave a review, if I read it here on the after party bonus episode and you hear it and you get in touch with me, I will then send you a couple merch items or a merch item, I should say. This one comes from MRSKJLH on Apple. Podcast says, hey, Jake can tell a story. Two exclamation points. Five stars. I listened to this podcast on a whim. After hearing an ad. I fell in love with it. Jake is such a good storyteller. I find myself on the edge of my seat even when I know the story. Definitely recommend. Well, Mrs. Kjlh we recommend you get in touch with us because we're gonna send you something cool. What do we got over on the Spotify box? Allison Marie writes in. I cannot say enough good about this podcast. I heard episodes from others and many of these topics, but no one tells these stories better than this show right here. Mad respect and dedicated listener. Have a fantastic Easter weekend to all. Alison, thank you so much. Get in touch. Allison, you have a good Easter as well with you and your family. This episode, guys, is nearing its end, but this after party, it's going to continue for our All Access members because they're paying five bucks a month. And for that five bucks, they're getting a little bit more of the after party, a little bonus, a little. A little more squeeze for a little more juice here at the end of the episode. They're also getting exclusive. An exclusive episode every week. Every month. Excuse me, one additional extra episode on top of our weekly episodes per month. That's what you get for five bucks, plus ad free listening. I mean, come on, five bucks. We've gone through this before. Can't even get a cup of coffee anymore for five bucks. Look what Double Elvis is giving you. Just go to membership. Check it out. Go to disgraceandpod.com membership and I'm just telling you right now is a good time to sign up because there's something coming down the pike very soon, very soon that's going to. You're just gonna wish you signed up. Okay, we'll say that. Disgraceandpod.com membership all right, we are back. Let's climb into the vault here and talk about some archive episodes, some artists that were mentioned in this bonus episode that we have full episodes on back in the archive that you guys can listen to. Stone Temple Pilots, Guns N Roses a lot. Okay? Jane's Addiction, Black Sabbath. Still no Red Hot Chili Peppers episode, though. I should probably get on that new order we mentioned. Oasis. There's a lot here. Metallica, Derek and the Dominoes, Clapton. There's a lot. Matt is going to piece together some links for you in the show notes so you can easily access these archive episodes. Guys, don't sleep on the archive. New listeners, listen 230plus episodes on all kinds of musicians and transgressions and true crimes that they've committed or have happened to them in our archive. A ton. Just give it a cruise. Go to Spotify, Apple, go to our website, wherever, and just kind of like scroll through. You're gonna find stuff you didn't know was there and you're going to love it. But, you know, we mentioned a bunch here. Matt's going to have that info for you in the show notes to get you into the archive quickly. All right, let's recap, shall we? Number one, My other podcast, Hollywoodland, is alive and kicking over in the Hollywoodland feed. So make sure you are subscribed and following Hollywoodland on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. And get ready for our upcoming Hollywoodland episode on Phil Hartman, but only after you're caught up on our recent episode on Robin Williams. Number two, right now in your Disgraceland feed, our episode on Chris Cornell. Number three Coming tomorrow, our rewind episode on Iggy Pop, and next week, Winona Rider. So make sure you're subscribed to Disgraceland. Number four, Merch winners. Get in touch. You know who you are. Number five Remember, no one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do. And, well, that is a disgrace. All right, in honor of this week's subject, Chris Cornell, this is me reading you the Billboard charts from the day Chris passed away on May 18, 2017. Number 1 Shape of youf Ed Shearing Last Week 1 Peak Position 1 Weeks on Chart 8 Number 2 Bad and Bougie Migos featuring Lil Uzi Vert Last Week 2 Peak Position 1 Weeks on Chart 16 Number 3 I Don't Want To Live Forever Same Taylor Swift Last Week 3 Peak Position 2 Weeks on Churn 12 Number 4 that's what I Like Bruno Mars Last Week 4 Peak Position 4 Weeks on Charts 7 Number 5 Something Just like this the Chain Smokers cold life last week 56 Peak position 5 Mix on quit talking and Start mixing. Cut it.
DISGRACELAND Podcast: Bonus Episode – Rock 'n' Roll Second Acts Release Date: April 24, 2025
Introduction to the Bonus Episode In this bonus episode of Disgraceland, host Jake Brennan delves into the intriguing topic of artists whose subsequent bands eclipsed the success and impact of their original breakthroughs. This episode serves as an engaging after-party to bridge the gap between full episodes, providing listeners with deeper insights and interactive discussions.
Main Discussion: Impactful Second Acts in Rock 'n' Roll Jake Brennan opens the discussion by posing a compelling question: "What artist had more impact in their follow-up band than they did in their breakthrough band?" (01:08). This question sets the stage for an exploration of various artists and their musical trajectories post their initial success.
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Kim Deal's Breeders vs. The Pixies: Jake muses over the Breeders' "Last Splash" album potentially outselling all Pixies albums combined. However, he remains doubtful, suggesting that cultural impact might favor the Pixies despite lower sales figures (07:20).
Listener Interactions and Responses: The episode becomes interactive as Jake reads listener voicemails and texts, providing diverse perspectives on the question.
Metalhead Mundy from Indiana: Suggests Neil Young's transition from Buffalo Springfield to his solo career, emphasizing Neil's lasting influence (12:47).
Jake's Response: Jake acknowledges the broader impact but reiterates the focus on group transitions rather than solo careers (13:35).
Todd from Nashville: Advocates for Dave Grohl's move from Nirvana to Foo Fighters, highlighting the Foo Fighters' sustained relevance despite lower album sales compared to Nirvana (14:09).
Jake's Counterpoint: He entertains the idea but tentatively favors Gorillaz due to their international success, though he remains open to the Foo Fighters' credentials (15:08).
Conclusion of Main Discussion: Ultimately, Jake contemplates Damon Albarn's Gorillaz as potentially more impactful than Blur, based on album sales and global reach, while also acknowledging the significant contributions of Foo Fighters (close to the 16-minute mark). The discussion underscores the complexity of measuring an artist's impact across different projects.
Upcoming Episodes and Content Previews Jake provides teasers for future episodes to keep listeners engaged:
Iggy Pop Episode: Highlights Iggy Pop's connections with David Bowie, Miles Davis, Dennis Hopper, and others, promising an in-depth exploration of his tumultuous career (16:50).
Winona Ryder Episode: Focuses on Winona Ryder's rock and roll persona and her significance in entertainment history, marking the end of the icon series (17:30).
Hollywoodland Podcast Integration: Introduces the Hollywoodland podcast, an offshoot focusing on true crime in Tinseltown, expanding the Disgraceland universe (18:00).
Listener Questions and Engagement Jake encourages listeners to participate in interactive segments, including Easter egg hunts and answering questions related to upcoming episodes.
Easter Egg Question: "In the Sharon Tate Part 2 episode of Hollywoodland, who did Sharon Tate seek advice from regarding her marital problems with Roman Polanski?" The answer, provided by listener Ryan from Houston, is Elkie Summer (23:37).
Robin Williams Episode Question: "What did Robin Williams get from the prostitute when he turned 21?" Jake prompts listeners to find the answer in the upcoming Hollywoodland episode on Robin Williams (22:00).
Listener Feedback and Reviews Jake reads and responds to listener feedback, highlighting testimonials that praise the storytelling and engaging content of Disgraceland. For instance:
MrsKJLH on Apple Podcast: "Jake can tell a story. Two exclamation points. Five stars. I listened to this podcast on a whim. After hearing an ad, I fell in love with it. Jake is such a good storyteller." (26:10)
Allison Marie on Facebook: Expresses deep appreciation for the podcast, especially the Alice in Chains Lane Staley episode, and engages in a discussion about grunge bands like Stone Temple Pilots vs. Alice in Chains (27:26).
Membership and Exclusive Content Jake promotes the Disgraceland All Access membership, offering ad-free listening, exclusive episodes, and bonus content for a monthly fee of five dollars. He emphasizes the value of community support through reviews and subscriptions to help the independent podcast grow (28:00).
Archive Exploration and Recommendations Towards the episode's end, Jake invites listeners to explore the extensive archive of over 230 episodes, featuring stories on a diverse range of artists such as:
Jake encourages both new and longtime listeners to dive into past episodes for a comprehensive understanding of the dark side of entertainment history (27:52).
Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts Jake wraps up the bonus episode by recapping key points and reminding listeners of upcoming content. He underscores the importance of preserving the true spirit of rock and roll and teases listeners with additional chart information related to Chris Cornell as a homage to the episode’s subject (28:59).
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"Soundgarden has sold significantly more albums than Audioslave—30 million to just 8 million." – Jake Brennan [03:15]
"Gorillaz have sold far more albums than Blur. Something like 40 million to 6 million." – Jake Brennan [06:45]
"Dave Grohl going on to have this incredible career with Foo Fighters after being the drummer in Nirvana." – Jake Brennan [14:09]
"Rock is Dead. My first thought was Blue October and the song Hate Me. Lyrics that make Howlin Wolf, Bruce Springsteen and Robert Zimmerman blush." – Listener Jules [27:26]
Conclusion This bonus episode of Disgraceland offers a thought-provoking examination of musicians' career paths, emphasizing the challenges and triumphs of evolving within the dynamic landscape of rock and roll. Through engaging discussions, listener interactions, and insightful commentary, Jake Brennan provides a comprehensive look into the phenomenon of second acts in the music industry.
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