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Jake Brennan (1:08)
Hey Discos, need a little more Disgrace Land in your life? Just a touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland. The After Foreign welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the After Party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard to dig into the dirt on this bonus episode, we are talking about Chris Cornell. We are previewing the coming episode on Winona Ryder, talking artists with follow up bands that were more impactful than their breakthroughs. And we get into Your voicemails, texts, DMs, emails and as always, a whole lot. Rosie all right discos, let's get into it. All right, Chris Cornell. This week's full episode subject broke through obviously in Soundgarden and then went to find success in Audio sleeve. The question of the week this week was what artist had more impact in their follow up band than they did in their breakthrough band. Obviously Chris Cornell's career inspired this question. Now for the record, I'm leaving off people like Dave Navarro, who went from Jane's Addiction to the Red Hot Chili Peppers. It's a bit of a nuanced reason, but it's because Chili Peppers weren't really Navarro's band. He joined pretty much as a sideman, wasn't even a full member in my opinion, so he doesn't qualify. Neither does someone like Ronnie James Dio, who left Black Sabbath to have a successful solo career. We're talking groups here, okay? Making it into groups, two bands is a much harder achievement in my estimation. Those artists who break through with one band and then repeat their success or then they surpass their previous success in another group, that's huge. That is not easy. So I was surprised to learn that Soundgarden has sold significantly more albums than Audioslave. 30 million for Soundgarden to just 8 million for Audioslave. The boys in Guns N Roses, they did not fare better with Velvet Revolver. GNR is a significantly bigger band than Velvet Revolver, as was Stone Temple Pilots. Here's one, though. Bit of left field. Not really. I wouldn't have thought of this. I looked it up this morning. Bel Biv Devoe. Much bigger group for Ronnie, Ricky and Michael than New Edition. Okay, what about Blur and Gorillaz? This. This one is shocking to me. Okay. Gorillaz have sold far more albums than blur. Something like 40 million to 6 million. Gorillaz. That is incredible. It's amazing. He'll always be Damon from Blur to me, though. Kim Deal's Breeders album, Last Splash, has supposedly sold more than all of the Pixies albums combined. I don't know. I read that and I think the Internet might be fucking with me on this one. This does not sound like it's right, but yeah, Cannonball man. Crazy. Here's a super relevant one because we were talking about this a couple weeks ago. Two after parties ago, I believe we were talking about Joy Division and New Order. By the way, I know I'm supposed to have an update on the Rock and Roll hall of Fame inductees, but I'm recording this after party way earlier than I normally do because we need to get it produced in advance because of some vacation stuff that's going on. School vacation, that sort of thing. So I don't have the nominee Rock and Roll hall of Fame inductee. Excuse me, Inductee update for you just yet, but when we were talking about this a couple epis ago, a couple bonus episodes ago, we were talking about Joy Division and New Order as potential. They're nominated. They might be inducted. I don't think they're going to get in. I don't understand why they're. They're being inducted as two groups. That doesn't make any fucking sense. But, you know, after, of course, Ian Curtis died, Peter Hook, Stephen Morris and Bernard Summer went on to form New Order and Soldiers. Way more, way more records than Joy Division. But I'm guessing not as many T shirts. Should sales be the final deciding element here? I don't know. I think so because sales usually correlate with radio play, video play, and cultural impact. Except maybe in the case of Breeders versus the Pixies. To me, the Pixies are way more culturally impactful. They've been doing this for so long and I feel like they've. They've just. They've touched more people. It's anecdotal, but that's how I feel. I'm curious what you guys think on the. On the Pixies Breeders question. I think we have to mention Dave Mustang here, who, after getting booted from Metallica, went on to form Megadeth. They never did what Metallica did, and Dave is still crying about it. But they are one of the top four thrash bands of all time, along with Metallica, Slayer and Anthrax. Part of the so called big four. Who else? Who else? Eric Clapton. From Yardbirds to Cream to Derek in the Dominoes. Does he get it for doing it three times? I guess you could make the case, but Yardbirds weren't really his band, were they? I don't know. Is this the right answer? Derek and the Dominoes. One album and not a very good one. This feels like a. A cheap win, if it's a win at all. Paul McCartney jumping from Beatles to Wings is worthy of our consideration, despite the fact that Wings were obviously not as big as the Beatles. The big one here is, of course, Foo Fighters. Dave Grohl going on to just, you know, have this incredible career with Foo Fighters after being the drummer in Nirvana. And I think you got to give a special tip of the hat to Dave Grohl for going from playing drums to fronting the band. But. But I was a little surprised by this one, too. Foo Fighters have sold half as many albums as Nirvana. I get that Nirvana is truly iconic, but I would think the amount of time Foo Fighters have been around, I thought there was a chance they actually sold more records, but no, it's like 72, 75 million for Nirvana and something like 32, 35 million for Foo Fighters, so there you go. What about Steve Malchimas going from Pavement to the Heavy Quartet, though? I'm just kidding. I just wanted to mention the Heavy Quartet. Okay. I think. I think those are our contenders. I don't think I'm really forgetting anyone of significance, but you guys are going to let me know when I get to the phone calls. What is the answer? Okay, which second act was more impactful than the first? Surprisingly, I'm very surprised by this, but I think the answer is Damon Alburn and Gorillaz. I think Gorillaz over Blur. Those record sales numbers are no joke, and they dwarf Blur's success. I knew Blur never sold a ton of records beyond the uk, but I would never have guessed that gorillas were bigger. I should have known. I should have known. So that's my answer. Damon Alburn. That's right. I don't know. Maybe you can make the case for Belle Biv DeVoe as well. But my gut tells me more people think about Blur than they do New Edition. So that's why I give it to Gorillaz over Belle Biv DeVoe. But maybe that's just my side of the street. Then again, I grew up illegally buying beer in Boston's Combat Zone, so I know a little thing or two about New Edition, but I want to know what you guys think. We're going to get to your answers on this question shortly, but first, I have to tell you about this week's Rewind Archive episode coming your way right after this bonus episode. It's on. Matt, give us a little drum roll. Go ahead. All right, it's on. Iggy Pop. David Bowie fans, you're not going to want to miss this one either. Bowie's a big part of Iggy's story. Bowie's a big part of this episode. Lots of other cool people show up in this episode, too. Miles Davis, Dennis Hopper, a bunch of our subjects. So if you haven't heard our Iggy Pop episode, you're gonna love it. And if you have, you're in for a treat when you re listen to it. Coming up after that, on Tuesday, we've got our episode on Winona Ryder. And Winona is, of course, pretty rock and roll, which is why we thought to feature her in Disgraceland. Winona, however, is the last of our icon series artists and will eventually find her way into the Hollywoodland archive as Disgraceland becomes once again solely music content. But for now, you've got Mrs. Johnny Depp. Not really, but sort of coming your way. Next week, Winona Ryder. Okay, this all brings us to next week's Question of the Week. When you're listening to the Winona Ryder episode, be thinking about all those iconic 80s and 90s female starlets. And let me know if Winona is Gen X's most iconic female actor. If not Winona, then who? Drew Barrymore? Cameron Diaz? Who is it? Let me know. 617-906-6638 Heather Graham, leave me a voicemail. Send me a text. Not you, Heather Graham. You guys, send me a voicemail. Leave me a text, let me know if Heather Graham is more iconic than Winona Ryder or Drew Barrymore. Who is it? Disgraceand pod on the socials. All right, I'm gonna take a quick break. I'll be hanging on the telephone on the other side with your voicemails, texts and DMs. Foreign.
