Bonus Episode: Sanitized Biopics, California Wildfires, and Underrated Rock Stars

Summary

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DISGRACELAND – Bonus Episode: Sanitized Biopics, California Wildfires, and Underrated Rock Stars

Date: July 31, 2025
Host: Jake Brennan (Double Elvis Productions)

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Episode Overview

This “After Party” bonus episode is a lively, multi-layered discussion that dives into three main topics: how modern music biopics get sanitized for mass consumption, the ongoing controversy around the distribution of California wildfire charity funds, and a community-driven conversation about rock’s most underrated stars. Packed with references, strong opinions, and listener engagement, the episode maintains DISGRACELAND’s signature irreverent, storytelling-centric tone.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. The Problem With Sanitized Biopics

[03:07–10:08]

• Jake Brennan critiques the current trend of whitewashed music biopics, fueled largely by the financial interests of publishing rights mega-sales and streaming platforms (“Chasm, the corporate algorithmic studio storytelling machine”).
  • References a recent New York Times Magazine article (“Rock’s Legends Were Messy. You’d Never Know That From Today’s Movies”) confirming his long-held complaints: biopics are now vehicles for sanitized, feel-good narratives designed to boost catalog revenues.
  • The episode promises later (exclusive) discussion of the “speedy, druggie” side of Bob Dylan omitted in the biopic A Complete Unknown—and whether his legendary motorcycle crash is just another rock myth.

“The filmmakers, they treat us like children, like we can only handle the safe story, and they're wrong.”
— Jake Brennan [06:13]

“You can tell stories about messy human beings and not be salacious at the same time.”
— Jake Brennan [06:56]

• Praises older, “messier” biopics (e.g., Coal Miner's Daughter, Gainsbourg: A Heroic Life, Oliver Stone’s The Doors) for not shying away from their subjects’ flaws, but presenting them as complex humans instead of clichés.

2. California Wildfires Charity Scandal Update

[10:08–14:07]

• Follow-up on the LA Fire Aid charity concert’s questionable fund distribution:
  • Fire Aid, under a wave of pressure (including direct from the DISGRACELAND community), released partial disclosures showing some funds went directly to wildfire victims, but specifics are vague and insufficiently transparent.
  • Only “a handful” of nonprofits involved have made direct payments to victims; most funds appear to have been allocated elsewhere.
  • Billboard recently reported Fire Aid has hired lawyers for an independent review—a positive but overdue step.
  • Jake underscores the power of public pressure and activism—even if he jokingly declines the activist label, saying, “All I want to be an activist for is good storytelling, good music storytelling…”

“We know how to read and we know you're not telling the whole truth.” — Jake Brennan [12:47]

“For the record, I don't think this money would have moved without public pressure from citizens like yourselves turning the heat up online on Fire Aid.” — Jake Brennan [13:20]

3. DISGRACELAND Community Questions: Most Underrated Rock Stars

[18:00–28:32]

• A spirited, listener-fueled search for the most underrated singer-songwriters who embody all the messiness and genius DISGRACELAND loves.
  • Jake emphasizes: he’s looking for rock stars, not just under-the-radar bands (“Lanegan was born a rock star. Whether he ever made music. That dude was a rock star.”)

Listener Call-Ins and Notable Picks:

• Jerry Reed

  • [20:31] Caller from 540 passionately argues for Reed’s undervalued genius as both songwriter and guitarist, plus his outlaw persona in films like Smokey and the Bandit.

    “I underrate Jerry Reed and I know he’s underrated…That dude was a great songwriter and an absolute assassin on the guitar.”
    — Jake Brennan [22:31]

• Root Boy Slim

  • [23:32] Caller from 518 champions the bizarre but compelling frontman for his wild shows, unique songs (“Boogie T Puke,” “Inflatable Doll”), and larger-than-life persona.

    “I got a feeling it’s going to be a rabbit hole. It’s going to be hard to climb out of.”
    — Jake Brennan [24:22]

• Matthew Sweet

  • [24:52] Caller from 705 (Canada) supports Sweet for his songwriting chops, skilled multi-instrumentalism, and records like Girlfriend.

    “That album cover…Girlfriend. Great record. Also ‘Sick of Myself’—another great song.”
    — Jake Brennan [25:22]

• Greg Dulli (The Afghan Whigs)

  • [25:22] Text from Jim (318): Praises Dulli’s raw songwriting and the Gentlemen album, calling him the “most combustible figure to arise from the 90s alt rock scene.”

    “Gentlemen is incredible. No skips. Instant classic. And Dulli could sing his ass off.”
    — Jake Brennan [25:22]

• Tori Amos

  • [25:22] Brian (910): Cites Amos’s early-90s peak and underappreciated impact, notes “Cornflake Girl” as one of the greats.

• Jake reflects on several 90s touchstones (“Cornflake Girl,” “Sick of Myself,” Gentlemen), affirming the communal nature of digging into under-acknowledged greatness.

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4. Upcoming Episodes & Recommendations

[18:00–20:31] & [32:49–38:37]

• Recent and upcoming DISGRACELAND stories: Mark Lanegan episode is out now; “rewind” of the Jay-Z story is next, followed by Part Two of the epic Run-DMC/Jam Master Jay special.
• Next week’s Question: Who’s the most influential hip hop group of all time?
• Hollywoodland plug: Recommends their adjacent podcast for true crime stories about famous movie figures.
• Personal media recommendations: Jake gushes about Netflix’s American Primeval (“Set in the 1800s in Utah…Peter Berg, loved episode one”), and ongoing music obsessions in the Brennan household (Turnstile’s latest album).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On sanitized music narratives:

  “This is why we dig into these stories…it's about who gets to control the narrative of one of the greatest American artists of all time. Is it Chasm or is it us?”
  — Jake Brennan [09:04]

• On California wildfire charity transparency:

  “It’s all presented as if everything’s on the up and up. Now, obviously there’s a ton more information we need so that we can figure out how this money has been dispersed. And of course, the fact that the organizers are playing this all off as quote, unquote, ‘misinformation’, that does not bode well.”
  — Jake Brennan [12:26]

• On what makes an underrated rock star:

  “Like I said, we talked about the replacements, so I’m not looking for groups who didn’t make it as far as we thought they should have. I’m talking about rock stars. It’s different. Lanegan was born a rock star. Whether he ever made music. That dude was a rock star.”
  — Jake Brennan [19:12]

• Listener on Jerry Reed:

  “One of the most genius bad guys in the whole world…very underrated rock and roll.”
  — Caller, 540 [20:31]

• Listener on Root Boy Slim:

  “He had the worst voice in the world, but the songs were awesome, the persona was awesome. Just unbelievable…”
  — Caller, 518 [23:32]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:07] Introduction to this week’s “After Party” episode, overview of topics
• [04:35] Deep dive into sanitized music biopics and the “Chasm” problem
• [10:08] California wildfire charity concert / Fire Aid fund distribution controversy
• [18:00] Mark Lanegan episode promo and rundown on upcoming DISGRACELAND episodes
• [20:31] Listeners call in for “Most Underrated Rock Stars”—Jerry Reed, Root Boy Slim, Matthew Sweet, Greg Dulli, Tori Amos
• [32:49] Sports rant & media recs (Five Hour Energy spot)
• [38:45] Closing thoughts, recap, invitation to community participation

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Community, Participation & Next Steps

• Jake closes by reminding listeners that DISGRACELAND is not just content, but a community for “the obsessed, the overlooked, the outsiders.” He calls for continued engagement: voicemails, texts, story tips, and answers to ongoing questions of the week.
• Hints at future exclusive content for All Access members (e.g., examining the Bob Dylan motorcycle crash myth).
• Invites listeners to explore companion podcast, Hollywoodland, for true-crime tales of Hollywood’s underbelly.

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If You Missed the Episode…

This wide-ranging “After Party” bonus is classic DISGRACELAND: sharp-tongued, unsanitized, and fueled by the kind of music geekery—and listener passion—that keeps buried stories alive. Whether you care about the (often misleading) narratives onscreen, want to know where your charity dollars go, or just want to celebrate rock’s unsung heroes, it’s an episode both entertaining and revealing.

Want to participate?
Text/call 617-906-6638 with questions, music history tips, or answers to weekly prompts.
For exclusive “the stories they don’t want you to hear,” join All Access at www.disgracelandpod.com/membership.

DISGRACELAND: Dig, baby, dig.

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Hey, Discos, need a little more Disgrace Land in your life? Just a touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgrace Land. The afterparty. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the After Party. This is the show after the show. The party after the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission? To uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's full episode subject on Mark Lanigan. We're rewinding back to our Jay Z episode, previewing our upcoming Episode on Run DMC Part 2 on Run DMC, where we dive deep into the death of Jam Master Jay. We get into your voicemails, texts, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told. The kind you'll end up telling to someone else. All right, discos, let's get into it.

[Disgraceland Listener / Caller]

Okay.

[Disgraceland Host (likely Jake Brennan)]

A couple of weeks ago, we talked about the problem that we as music obsessives face. The problem of not being able to get our hands on the real stories from music history. I jokingly refer to the villain that prevents us from getting these stories as Chasm, the corporate algorithmic studio storytelling machine. And wouldn't you? Well, just five, six days ago, the New York Times Magazine ran a story called here's the title called Roc's Legends were messy. You'd never know that from today's movies subtitle. People used to eat up salacious stories of rock and roll excess. Now they're the last things filmmakers want to touch. The article then goes on to make Our point about Chasm in great detail, it posits that because there's now so much money tied to the publishing of artists songs, you heard about Dylan selling his catalog for $250 million, Springsteen for 300 million. I think because there's so much money tied to the publishing of these artist songs that the labels, the big publishers now own, the biopics now serve as the engines that drive the streams and the sale of the music that in a lot of cases, like I just said, is now owned again by the publisher slash record labels. The point being, what is someone more likely to watch a cookie cutter story about an artist following a predictable path to stardom, then crashing, then overcoming whatever challenges brought on that crash, usually some combination of past childhood trauma, drug and or alcohol abuse, and forbidden love, to make a comeback to thrive and to live happily ever after? Or perhaps is the following more interesting a story that gets into all the nasty little bits that make up more of a complete picture of the artist, not just the drug use, but the dark reality of the drug use, the consequences on a human emotional level, and the dirty and often fascinating and incongruent details that dot the lives of artists and help explain why their music is so compelling in the first place. The latter example is indeed messier, as the writer of this New York Times Magazine article points out. But I would argue, and I know you guys agree with me because why else would you be here, that the latter example, the messier option, is the more interesting option. But the filmmakers, they treat us like children, like we can only handle the safe story, and they're wrong. And actually, as someone who's been brought into pitches with streamers for the past five years to get them to buy real stories from music history, I can tell you firsthand, this isn't ultimately the problem of the filmmaker. Sure, they're making these stories, but they can only tell the stories that the studios will allow them to tell again. Kasm, the corporate algorithmic studio storytelling machine. In the New York Times Magazine article, the writer kind of puts the blame on you guys, the music fans, and sort of makes the point that music fans don't want the real stories because the stories are too messy. Like he says, he makes the false equivalence of the messy story being something akin to the salaciousness of behind the Music. But that's bullshit. You can tell stories about messy human beings and not be salacious at the same time. And sure, I've been salacious with our stories in the past, but when you're talking about motley Crue, you really don't have option when you're talking about Bob Dylan or Brian Wilson. On the other hand, you can get down with the dirty details and present them in a human way and in an upmarket way without being salacious. And if I can do this, as I've demonstrated over and over again in hundreds of podcast episodes, then modern day filmmakers can do this too. We know because there are great music biopics. Whether it's the emotional rawness of Coal Miner's Daughter or the fantastic fever dream creativity of Gainsbourg or Heroic Life, these films are fantastic and they're about messy artists and they don't shy away from those messes. And then there's Oliver Stone's the Doors, which manages to be both salacious and poetic. Admittedly poetic in a 10th grade poetry class kind of way, but still, that's who Jim Morrison was. He was salacious and he was poetic in a kind of adolescent way. In the New York Times Magazine article, the writer says of the Bob Dylan biopic, A Complete Unknown. He says a Complete Unknown, for instance, skirts the speedy druggie side of Dylan's early work. Now, in the bonus section of this episode right here, we're going to talk about the quote unquote speedy druggie side of Bob Dylan that was left out of A Complete Unknown. And we're going to get into my thoughts on whether or not Bob Dylan actually got into that famous motorcycle accident that sidelined his career in the 1960s, and whether or not that story about the motorcycle crash is yet another rock and roll myth that needs busting. This isn't solely about whether Dylan wrecked his bike. It's about who gets to control the narrative of one of the greatest American artists of all time. Is it chasm or is it us? This is why we dig into these stories. Okay, that's coming up later in the show for our All Access members. Go to Disgracelandpod.com membership now to become a member for less than the cost of a cup of bad coffee and unlock more storytelling from Disgraceland. Also, you're gonna get ad free listening access to your fellow discos and myself and the Patreon community chat. Whole bunch of stuff. Just five bucks. All right, switching gears, an update on the LA Fire Aid, California wildfires, charity concert scandal, quote unquote scandal that we discussed last week. Of course, this has become political in the last week with a California congressman and even the president tweeting about this issue, calling it a scam, et cetera. Now, is this the scam they're Claiming it to be.

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No.

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Is this all on the up and up? No. As usual, the truth is nuanced. The politics aside, in response to us, to you guys, actually to the discos and others online who were onto this story before, the politicians fireaid the organization responsible for dispersing the money raised by that charity concert we talked about last week. Fire Aid has now on its website and in an LA Times article provided information on where some of the money has gone. Again, 75, 100 million was raised. 75 million has been doled out to nonprofits. Very little of that has gone directly to the people impacted by the LA wildfires. Okay? Now Fire Aid has come out again, like I said, on their website and in an LA Times article, and they provided information on where some of the money has gone. They don't talk specifically about how much, but they do detail, as I mentioned in an Instagram post earlier this week, some some thousand dollar payments, some $15,000 payments. And as far as tell of the numerous nonprofits responsible for doling out the 75 million, only a small handful too, by my account, have actually given money directly to the victims. Now, I might have read the website wrong. I might have read the LA Times article wrong. I don't think I did. Okay, so what we have here is an organization came in and come out and say, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on, hold on. We're not totally guilty of what you're saying we're guilty of. Here's some proof that we did, we did give some direct payments. They don't say how much. They say a $15,000 payment to this person, these people. Excuse me, $1,000 payments to these people. But they don't come out and say of the 75 million, you know, 70 million has been given directly to victims or 4 or even 40 million or whatever. They don't do that yet. It's all, it's all presented as if everything's on the up and up. Now, obviously there's a ton more information we need so that we can figure out how this money has been dispersed. And of course, the fact that the organizers are playing this all off as quote, unquote, misinformation, that's what they call it. That does not bode well. All right, we know how to read and we know you're not telling the whole truth. Now, my gut has been that over the coming days and weeks, these other nonprofits who are responsible for dispersing the money will get their act together and start being transparent about where the money has gone. Or is going and start making an honest effort to directly get the funds to the victims if they have not gotten there, I mean, it could turn out where they just, you know, all of a sudden show up tomorrow and they're like, bam, here's an accounting of where all the money went and you guys just haven't had the information. But I don't think that's going to happen. And I just did a quick Google as I was putting this, the show notes together for this episode to see if I missed anything on this story from the last time I checked in on it. And about 15 hours ago, Billboard reported that Fire Aid has hired lawyers to review the distribution of this money from the nonprofits. So there you go. They're covering their ass in a good way. This is a good thing. Fire Aid should want an accounting of the money. This is good news. And hopefully the majority of the money raised from the concert gets to the people. That's the important part here. Okay, for the record, I don't think this money would have moved without public pressure from citizens like yourselves turning the heat up online on Fire Aid. So if you tweeted about it, if you shared my Instagram video or you were one of the many who commented on it and tagged your local representatives, then great job. Look at that. We're activists all of a sudden. Not really. I want no part of that racket. All I want to be an activist for is good storytelling, good music storytelling, the kind of storytelling so true that they want to keep it buried. The kinds of stories you want to tell three chords in the truth, as Joe Strummer said after he stole that line from Harlan Howard. All right, when we come back, I'm going to give you an update on our stories in Disgraceland. And get into this week's Question of the Week with Your voicemails, texts, DMs and.

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All right, let's set the table right now. In your feed is our new episode on Mark Lanigan. You need to listen to that episode if you want to know about the singer songwriter who not only procured drugs for Kurt Cobain, but who influenced Kurt's songwriting as well. Lanigan, one of the most underrated rock stars in the 90s. And we're doing our best to keep the story alive. So check that episode out. Even if you've never heard Mark Lanegan or you've never heard of the Screaming Trees, it doesn't matter. It's a great rock and roll story. You're going to love it. All right, coming up next in your feed, we're rewinding to our Jay Z episode. I wanted to give this one a spin in the rewind slot this week because it's a nice dip into what hip hop became in the wake of that first or first slash second generation Run dmc. Jay Z is at the top of the mountain of hip hop stars that he has been since the early 2000s. You're going to hear about not only his rise to the top, but also the violent incident that almost derailed his career. A career that is incomparable and was no doubt inconceivable to someone like Jam Master JJ from Run DMC back when he was a Queen's B boy starting out. And Jay, the other Jay, Jay Z, like I said, is at the top of his game. In the early 2000s when it all fell apart for Jam Master Jay, we get into where Jam Master Jay was in his career and who was encircling him when he was murdered. All in our new Part 2 episode on Run DMC that's coming on Tuesday. Okay, when you're listening to that new Run DMC episode, be thinking about who's the most influential hip hop group of all time. Was it Run dmc? That's going to be next week's Question of the week. Lots to choose from. And again, group Hip Hop group. Don't come back with LL Cool J. Public Enemy. Sure. Don't say Chuck D. Okay. Say Public Enemy. If that's who you think it could be. The Beastie Boys. I don't know. I don't know who you think. Most influential hip hop group of all time. That's gonna be the question of the week next week. All right, but back to this week's question in our episode on Mark Lanigan. Mark is no longer with us, but I am, however, and I am alone. I'm, you know, I'm in the phone booth. It's the one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone, waiting for your answers on this week's question of the week on relative to Mark Lanigan, of course, your thoughts on who the most underrated rock stars are. The most underrated singer songwriters? Yeah. Really? Rock stars. Okay. Like I said, we talked about the replacement, so I'm not looking for groups who didn't. Didn't make it as far as we thought they should have. I'm talking about rock stars. It's different. Lanegan was born a rock star. Whether he ever made music. That dude was a rock star. Okay, let's check out this voicemail on that question from the 540- Mr. Brennan.

[Disgraceland Listener / Caller]

Actually, Mr. Brennan and Mr. Lundy, I have kind of a combo for you guys. All right. We wanted to talk about songwriters. Singer songwriters. Let's. Let's go ahead and just talk about Jerry Reed. I mean, obviously, just a massive, massive musical genius, if you will. I mean, we're talking Eastbounded down the Legend, Guitar man, which, by the way, elk's freshly covered and. And couldn't get the guitar sound right. Finally looked at somebody and said, man, I can't get it to sound like that. Jerry Reed, guys, maybe you should get Jerry Reed to play on it. Says who played on the Elk Specialty record for him, huh? But anyway, someone gives him credit for. For being a great songwriter. Also. We've got a connection, too. It is. He's also a great movie star. Exactly. Smoking the Bandit, obviously. One and two and three. Three. But that's okay. And I believe it's White Lightning, which was the trilogy with Jader. And he played fame of McCall, and that was that. One of the most genius bad guys in the whole world. I mean, he nailed that. That was great. Great movie. He also made a movie where he played another bad guy, except this one had Walter Mathow and Robin Williams in it. And I believe it's called the Survivalist. And he, like the beginning of the Movie, Jerry Reed was a store or something, I don't know. But Walter Matthow and Rob Williams, they see him and they can identify him. And the movie ensues from there, him trying to kill. But there you go. Like I said, we've got both covered, you know, musically and in the movies. But, yeah, very underrated rock and roll.

[Disgraceland Host (likely Jake Brennan)]

Damn. All right. 5, 4, 0. You know, as I'm listening to that voicemail, I'm thinking only a Disgraceland listener would be able to go from Mark Lanegan to Jerry Reid. I love this answer. And you know why? Because I underrate Jerry Reed and I know he's underrated. We all know Jerry Reed as Snowman, right? That's his character's name from Smoking the bandit. But as the540 points out, that dude was a great songwriter and an absolute assassin on the guitar. Wrote the great Eastbound and Down. Not the television series, which is also great, but the song Eastbound and Down, which my friends in Midland do a great cover of, by the way. Five, four, zero. Call me back. Tell me which Jerry Reed album to start with. I've heard the hits, but if you can recommend one album, which would it be? All right, let's check out the 518, who is indirectly connecting a topic from a caller last week with this week's question of the week about underrated singer songwriters. Underrated rock stars. Play the 518.

[Disgraceland Listener / Caller]

AJ David, the 518 fellow James Elroy fan. You talking about Root Boy Slim. And unless you lived through Root Boy Slim shows, you ain't saying nothing. That guy was phenomenal. I mean, he had the worst voice in the world, but the songs were awesome, the Persona was awesome. Just unbelievable. I would suggest, you know, any one of his three. I think I have three, maybe four of his albums. Great songs like Boogie T Puke was like his first kind of minor regional hit a lot of people got. But songs like World War 3 inflatable doll about his love affair with his, you know, Ms. Polly Etheline. Unbelievable musicians that were. They were just all incredible. Overshadowed by the one big personality the group boy was. Love the show. Rock and roll.

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All right, Boogie T Puke, I'll take your word for it. And check out Rude Boy Slim. This is all news to me. I don't know how I missed this entire Rude Boy Slim thing. No clue. But I thank you for it. I got a feeling I'm going to get dirty. When I dive into this. I get a feeling it's going to be a rabbit hole. It's going to Be hard to climb out of. I got a feeling we're going to have some rude boy slim content coming your way at some point in the near future. Thank you 518. Appreciate you digging in. Let's check in north of the border. Play the 705.

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Hey, it's Derek McLean calling from Canada 705 area and I just want to put in my two cents worth for a very underrated singer. Songwriter Matthew Sweet, rocking it out. Wrote some great songs, also played so many instruments in the studio on a couple of his albums. He was on bass, he was on drums, he was on guitar. Just some incredible songwriting. So shout out to Matthew Sweet and you're doing a great job. I love every episode. Cheers.

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Yeah, it doesn't surprise me that the Canadians love Matthew Sweet or a Canadian loves Matthew Sweet. That album cover, that woman in that big fur coat or whatever she's wearing. Girlfriend. Great record. Also sick of Myself. Another great song. I don't think it's on that album though. I'm guessing 705 that if you're a Matthew Sweet fan, you're a Fredie Johnson fan as well. Get back, let me know. 617-906-6638 you want to send me a voicemail? You want to send me a text? You want to get in on any of our questions of the week? That's how you do it. You want to. You want to tell me about a story on our note? You got something, you get a line on something? You've been digging into the, into the music history research. You got something you want to share with me? An artist we should cover? A story I should know about, like this Rude boy Slim thing we've been talking about. Hit me up, let me know. It might turn into a Disgraceland episode. 617-906-6638 voicemail and text. 318-318-GETS IN HERE with hey Jake. The Lanigan episode really hit home with me. Mark's voice was the embodiment of late nights, empty bottles of bourbon and overflowing ashtrays. And he used to create, as you say, great music. As for underrated rock stars, I have to go with someone who is actually mentioned on the Lanegan episode, Greg Dooley of the Afghan Wigs. As an intensely personal songwriter with the howl of a lonely alley cat, he was the most combustible figure to arise from the 90s alt rock scene. The Afghan Wigs Gentleman album has been on regular rotation with me since its release, and I still maintain it's the most under recognized classic of that era. Anyway, the Lanigan episode was a top notch production from beginning to end. All the best in rocka Rolla. Jim from the 318. Jim from the 318. I could not agree with you more, gentlemen. Is incredible. No skips. Instant classic. Great record. And Dually could sing his ass off. So good. So good. It's also got a great bar in la. I wonder if it's still there. I think it was called the Shortstop. Had a good night there once. All right, what else we got here? We got a text here from Lainey, one of our favorite longtime discos, texting in some cool videos of her son portraying Johnny Cash on stage in a local production from Laney's neck of the Woods. Lainey's son is killing it. You're gonna have to take my word for it. And we would expect nothing less from the son of a disco portraying none other than the badass Johnny Cash. Nice work, Lainey. Way to raise him up right? 910 texts in. Hey, this is Brian of the 910 area code. Was just wanting to answer your question about what artist is underrated. And I have to say the artist's name is Tori Amos. She was at the peak of her fame during the early 90s and didn't get played enough, in my honest opinion. What do you know about her? Thanks. Well, I don't know much about Tori Amos except that I love the song Cornflake Girl. Great song. I want to listen to that right now. I want to listen to Cornflake Girls. I want to listen to Sick of Myself by Matthew Sweet. I want to listen to Gentlemen by Afghan Wigs. You guys got a good little 90s vibe rocking these texts and voicemails. I appreciate you. 910. If you have any info on Tori Amos, if you know something I don't know, get on back at us. 617-906-6638. For the rest of you too, if you want to be part of the show next week, get in touch with your answers to next week's question of the week. Who's the greatest hip hop group of all time?

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And. And I want your recommendations on what stories we should cover. Is it Rude Boy Slim? Is it somebody else? What stories have been buried that need telling? Dig. All right. Your voice helps uncover what got buried. And your takes, as you know, propel me into the dark corners of music history. So keep them coming. Like we said a couple weeks ago. I'm gonna keep saying it. Dig, baby, dig. All right, 617-906-6638. Get in touch. I'll be back in a flash.

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Give yourself some extra out on the golf course or even in the Red Sox front office and land us some pitching help before the deadline. Speaking of deadlines, Matt, how'd I do? 42 seconds. Jake Little too verbose on that one. Better luck next time. All right, that was the sports rant sponsored by Five Hour Energy's new transfusion flavor. With as much caffeine as a premium cup of coffee with zero sugar and a compact bottle, five Hour Energy is ready when and where you are, even if you're not a golfer like me. So grab your crew, get your energy, and tee off. Off with Five Hour Energy's new transfusion flavor, available in stores or online at www.fivehourenergy.com. now, I started watching what I think is going to be a great series last night on the old Netflix machine, and I wanted to tell you guys about it. American Primeval, created by Peter Berg, who wrote the opening episode, directed it. I imagine he's directed a bunch and written a bunch. I love Peter Berg. Loved episode one of this new series that I'm watching, set in the 1800s in Utah. And given that I just got back from Montana, this is hitting me perfectly. What a beautiful part of the country, guys. A unique part of the country, too. I'm reading, I think I mentioned this last week. I'm reading Tom McGuain's Nobody's angel, which is set in Montana. And I don't, I don't, I don't know if I love the story. I love the prose or parts of it, but oftentimes the best part of it is the prose about Montana. But sometimes the prose is just overwhelming the story. Now, I'm not sure, like I said, how good this book is. But, you know, I am sure about how great that part of the country is. Montana, Utah, just gorgeous. And yeah, I don't know. That's where I'm at on the reading front and on the listening front. We're still in the midst of our turnstile summer here in the Brennan household, with every family member walking around the house randomly shouting never enough and, you know, hoping to go see him in a couple weeks. They're playing close by, gonna hopefully bring the family, the whole wife of kids, the whole shebang. And, you know, like I said when we were just in Montana, we're taking the chairlift up to the top of the mountain at Big sky and taking in that incredible view. And we were rocking that song as we were doing it. My kids love it. Very cool moment. And I don't know, man, you know, Turnstile, not anything new for people in the hardcore scene, but this record is transcendent. And if you've never dipped into this genre before, check it out, you might find yourself as a new fan. All right, I'm babbling. I started this block talking about Peter Berg's new TV show, thinking it would give me an occasion to talk about Peter Berg in Cop Land, which is a great movie, one of my favorites, which would then allow me an easy transition into some movie talk. So I could pimp out our other podcast, Hollywoodland, where just like in Disgraceland, we unearth hard to find stories, but they're about Hollywood icons, not musicians. And they're of course, mixed up in all kinds of true crime antics. And that show is available in the Hollywoodland feed with episodes on Robert Downey Jr. Gene Mansfield, Jack Nicholson, Sharon Stone and a ton more. And myself and Zeth Lundy, who showruns Hollywoodland. Every week we do a bonus episode called Rap Party. We get in all kinds of Hollywood inspired movie and music wrecks. Go to the Hollywoodland feed on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts and subscribe. Okay. Disgraceland, as you know, is for the ability obsessed, the overlooked, the outsiders. If that's you, then you're already one of us. And if you want more storytelling, the buried stuff, the stories of chasm and the powers that be are too scared to tell. If you want revelation, if you want reckoning, if you want reclamation, then Disgraceland All Access is for you. It's just five bucks a month, so for less than the cost of a cup of bad coffee, you get the episodes that we couldn't fit into the main feed, like the Dylan Motorcycle Crash myth that we're diving into next in the exclusive section, the after party. You're also going to get ad free. Disgraceland in Hollywoodland. An exclusive full episode every month. Access to me and your fellow discos in the private community chat. So if you're obsessed and you know you are, go to www.graceland.com membership and join the all access disco crew today. Because this isn't just content people. It's a community and you belong here. 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Guys, we are back about to close up the shop here in the after party. We talked as we always do every week about a bunch of different musicians who came up in this in this story. Robbie Robertson, Bob Dylan, Johnny Cash, Kurt Cobain, Serge Gainsburg, Motley Crue. We mentioned all of them. Matt will have the episode information in the show notes of this here. Bonus up so you can can easily find the Rob the Band episode, the two Dylan episodes. Johnny Cash, Kurt Cobain, Serge Gainsburg, Motley Crue can easily find those stories if you're so interested. All right, let's recap. And then I gotta get out of here. I gotta go eat. Number one, this week's full episode on Mark Lanigan. That's live right now. Number two, next up in your feed, we're rewinding our Jay Z episode. Number three, next week, our part two episode on Run dmc, our Jam Master J episode. We get into the death of Jam master J. Number four on Hollywoodland. Right now, our episode on Robert Downey Jr. Number 561-790-6638 voicemail and text DM me@gracelandpod on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook and x disgracelandpodmail.com to email. Listen. Your voice helps uncover Listen to your voice helps uncover what gets buried. Your takes propel me into the dark corners of music history. So keep them coming. Dig, baby, dig. Now that the night is over. Number six, don't forget discos. This isn't just content, it's a community. A community of the obsessed. And no one cares about music, books, records and the crime and grime that ties them all together like you do. And well, that's a disgrace. All right, this week's new episode subject Mark Lanegan passed away back on February 22, 2022. Here's what America was listening to on that day according to the Billboard charts. Number one, we don't talk about Bruno, Carolina Gayton, Mara Castillo. Last week one peak position one weeks on chart seven. Number two, do we have a problem Nicki Minaj and Lil Baby last week Non applicable peak position 2 weeks on chart 1 number 3 easy army adele last week 2 peak position 11 weeks on chart 18 number 4 heat position waves last animals last week 3 peak position 3 weeks on chart 56 number 5 stay the kid Laroi.

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