Bonus Episode: Shocking Details in D4vd’s Evidence Brief Surrounding the Murder of Celeste Rivas Hernandez

Summary

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DISGRACELAND Bonus Episode: Shocking Details in D4vd’s Evidence Brief Surrounding the Murder of Celeste Rivas Hernandez

Host: Jake Brennan (featuring Zeth Lundy)
Date: May 14, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this intense and wide-ranging After Party bonus episode of DISGRACELAND, Jake Brennan and co-host Zeth Lundy break down shocking new details from the court evidence brief in the ongoing murder case against rising hip hop star D4vd (aka "David"). The episode dives deep into the allegations surrounding the horrific murder of his 14-year-old girlfriend, Celeste Rivas Hernandez, explores audience Mount Rushmore lists of guitarists, shares listener stories and feedback, and provides updates on the May Madness Sitcom Theme Song Slugfest and other DISGRACELAND happenings.

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Detailed Breakdown

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1. Shocking Evidence From the D4vd Case

[03:19 – 16:13]

Background

• Jake Brennan: Expresses shock at missing this rapidly developing, deeply upsetting case in earlier discussions of disturbing music history stories.
  “I don't want to come off as outraged or shocked, but that's what I am, right?” ([03:19])
• D4vd (spelled “D4V D”), a bona fide rising hip hop star, now stands accused of brutally murdering his 14-year-old girlfriend, Celeste Rivas Hernandez.

Timeline and Alleged Details

• D4vd, at 18, began pursuing Celeste (then 11). By the time she was 13, they were in a relationship ([08:09]).
• To avoid parental detection, D4vd allegedly paid one of Celeste's classmates $1,000 to deliver her a secret cell phone ([08:35]).
• Texts from the phone include sexual content, explicit photos/videos and discussions about sex, contraception, and the stress Celeste felt about the relationship.
  Celeste to David: “All we do is have sex and just hang out and I want more than that for myself.” ([09:44])
• As D4vd’s career explodes (Coachella, Paris Fashion Week), Celeste becomes jealous, threatens to expose their relationship using the evidence she has ([10:09]).
• On April 23, 2025, D4vd allegedly orders an Uber for Celeste to his Hollywood Hills home. Thirty minutes after arrival, she’s dead—stabbed and left to bleed out ([11:19]).
• Jake Brennan (drily): “David sent an Uber to pick Celeste up…arrived at David’s home…by 10:30pm Celeste was dead. Stabbed to death, allegedly by her boyfriend who sat and watched as the 14-year-old Bled out on his floor right in front of him.” ([11:19])
• D4vd then allegedly orders two chainsaws, a body bag, laundry bags, and a kiddie pool, all delivered to his home ([12:01]). Authorities tracked his Tesla digitally as he visited a remote site, failing to cover his tracks in any sophisticated way ([13:07]).
• After the murder, D4vd places Celeste’s dismembered body in his car’s trunk, which he lets sit for weeks before going on tour ([14:34]). The car is then towed while he’s on tour; Celeste’s remains are found by tow yard staff ([14:51]).
• Police searching his home discover he kept the bloody kiddie pool used in the dismemberment ([15:07]).
  • Jake: “If record sales correlated to stupidity, this guy would be Michael fucking Jackson.” ([15:32])

Legal Update

• The defense has succeeded in delaying the trial, likely to regroup after the damning evidence was submitted ([05:15], [10:53]).
• Jake reaffirms: Everything is alleged; nothing proven yet. Full coverage will come after the verdict ([15:54]).

Notable Quotes

• Jake Brennan: “These facts, these details…the stuff that’s going on in this Los Angeles courtroom surrounding this artist, it’s going to be too hard for us to ignore. So I’m going to get into it with you guys here in the after party bonus…” ([06:17])
• On D4vd’s attempts to cover-up: “Our criminal mastermind, our MENSA candidate, did not know this.” ([13:15])
• On ordering a body bag from Amazon: “When did we start making it so you could order body bags off Amazon?” ([12:53])

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2. Listeners’ Mount Rushmore of Guitarists

[16:18 – 34:34]

Prompts and Listener Responses

• Episode prompts listeners for their “Mount Rushmore” of guitar players; many call/text their picks.
• Notable Caller (Tracy, 970): Derek Trucks, Warren Haynes, Trey Anastasio, Samantha Fish ([21:01]).
  • “We all get to like what we like, right?”
• Chris, 612: B.B. King, Jerry Garcia, Derek Trucks, Duane Allman. Chris recalls attending the Stevie Ray Vaughan show at Alpine Valley ([23:23]).
• Jake’s Reflection:
  • On B.B. King: “I feel like people don’t pay enough attention to B.B. King as a guitar player because he became so much more than that.” ([24:50])
• More lists are texted in (Robert Johnson, Chuck Berry, Jimi Hendrix, Johnny Thunders, etc.) ([27:20] onwards).

Hosts’ Mount Rushmore

• Jake’s Picks: Poison Ivy Rorschach (The Cramps), Angus Young (AC/DC), Eddie Van Halen, Jimi Hendrix ([32:29])
  • “Nobody did what Jimi Hendrix did with the guitar before Jimi Hendrix.” ([33:08])
  • “When I hear Eddie Van Halen play, unlike when I hear Stevie Ray Vaughan play, I hear more Martians in his playing…” ([34:13])
• Zeth interjects: He loves the variety and the opportunity to check out others’ favorites.

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3. Additional Listener Stories, Feedback, and Community

[20:52 – 41:04]

Memorable Listener Moments

• Taya from NYC (917): Shares excitement over DISGRACELAND joining Exactly Right, relates how podcasts feel like friends in her living room ([25:07]).
  • Jake: “I love that your podcast friends are our friends and they’re all hanging out…” ([26:43])
• Discussions around podcasts listened to while doing chores—podcasting as community, ritual, and companionship ([27:03]).
• Discussions of “Gone Too Soon” artists (Kurt Cobain, Bradley Nowell, Mia Zapata, etc.) and the emotional impact of rock star deaths ([28:56]).

Miscellaneous Guitar Mount Rushmore Lists

• Calls/texts with personalized guitar legends; hosts riff and respond ([27:20], [34:36]).
• Jake and Zeth encourage discovery and open-mindedness: “I can only hope that the answers from you all prompt others to check out guitar players they may not have listened to before.” ([29:46])

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4. DISGRACELAND Community & Updates

[37:53 – End]

Sitcom Theme Song Bracket ("May Madness")

• Update on the bracket ranking classic TV theme songs. Listeners urged to vote ([38:02]).
  • Matt: “We’re in the thick of the second round of the tournament right now…” ([39:01])
• Fresh Prince vs Greatest American Hero, Flintstones vs Diff’rent Strokes, and animated shows’ Cinderella runs highlighted ([39:01]).

Listener Email Segment

• John Sel recommends a King Von episode, highlighting the Chicago rapper’s alleged serial killings and connection to other artists ([40:21]).

Upcoming Episodes & Recommendations

• Recap of forthcoming DISGRACELAND content:
  • Stevie Ray Vaughan episode (currently out)
  • Ariana Grande Manchester Bombing episode (Rewind, upcoming)
  • Christina Grimmie episode (true crime, next week)
  • More—Hollywoodland podcast on Paris Hilton & the Bling Ring, wrap party music recs, and a video podcast on High Fidelity ([45:13]).

Closing Thoughts

• Community call-out: “Disgraceland isn’t just content. It’s a community. A community of the obsessed.” ([46:00])
• Billboard chart segment: snapshot of the U.S. top five songs the day Stevie Ray Vaughan died ([46:23]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jake Brennan:
  • “If record sales correlated to stupidity, this guy would be Michael fucking Jackson.” ([15:32])
  • “Happy to talk to y’.” ([34:34])
• Taya (voicemail):
  • “I always think of podcasts as like having your friends in your living room. And when you’ve been listening this long, you feel like the hosts are your friends, right?” ([26:01])

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Key Timestamps

• [03:19] — Jake’s reaction to missing the developing story
• [04:20] — Evidence brief introduced in court
• [08:09] — Relationship timeline (David 18, Celeste 11-13)
• [09:44] — Celeste’s text: “All we do is have sex…”
• [10:53] — Defense requests trial delay
• [11:19] — Alleged murder night timeline
• [12:01] — Body bag, chainsaws, pool ordered
• [14:51] — Discovery of Celeste’s body
• [15:32] — Iconic “Michael fucking Jackson” stupidity quip
• [21:01] — Listener favorite guitarists (Tracy, 970)
• [23:23] — SRV Alpine Valley memory (Chris)
• [25:07] — Taya’s Exactly Right voicemail
• [38:02] — May Madness Sitcom Slugfest update
• [39:01] — Close matchups in the sitcom theme bracket
• [40:21] — King Von feedback email
• [45:13] — New episode and podcast recommendations
• [46:23] — Billboard chart recap (SRV)

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Final Thoughts

This After Party episode pulls listeners into the grim realities of an active murder trial involving a rising star, lays out tantalizing court document details, and then shifts lanes to the pleasures of music fandom—debating the greatest guitarists, remembering iconic concerts, and championing communal passion for both true crime and the culture that surrounds it. The hosts strike a careful balance between true crime storytelling, wry humor, and music nerdery, encouraging audience engagement at every turn.

“Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn’t want told. The kind you’ll end up telling someone else.” – Jake Brennan ([02:18])

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Transcript

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[Zeth Lundy]

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[Jake Brennan]

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[Jake Brennan]

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[Zeth Lundy]

Hey discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life? Just a touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland. The afterparty.

[Jake Brennan]

Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the After Party. This is the show after the show. The party after the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard. To dig into the dirt on this bonus episode, we are talking about the shockingly stupid evidence that's piling up against hip hop star David's alleged gruesome murder of a 14 year old. We're also discussing the Mount Rushmore of guitar players. We got an update on our May Madness sitcom music slugfest. Plus your voicemails, texts, emails, DMS comments, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories want told. The kind you'll end up telling someone else.

[Zeth Lundy]

All right, discos, let's get into it. All right.

[Jake Brennan]

I don't want to come off as outraged or shocked, but that's what I am, right? And I'm kind of pissed off at myself because all last week we were talking about the quote, unquote, most upsetting

[Zeth Lundy]

stories from music history and there was

[Jake Brennan]

one developing in real time right under

[Zeth Lundy]

our noses and we didn't talk about it. I'm talking about David, the rising hip hop star whose name is spelled D4V D. And the alleged murder, gruesome murder of a 14 year old, his 14 year old girlfriend. Now the story of David and his 14 year old girlfriend, Celeste Rivas Hernandez,

[Jake Brennan]

it's about as upsetting as as it gets. Now, I've known about the allegations against David for some time now. This story has been in the news, but a lot of new news broke over the last call it week and a half, something like that, when a

[Zeth Lundy]

new evidence brief was introduced in court in Los Angeles regarding this case.

[Jake Brennan]

And what came out of that brief

[Zeth Lundy]

are shocking, shocking details about this crime that this star is being alleged to have committed. Now, again, his 14 year old girlfriend, Celeste Rivas Hernandez, you might see her name as just a Celeste Rivas. I've seen it both ways.

[Jake Brennan]

Celeste Rivas Hernandez. Celeste Rivas.

[Zeth Lundy]

BBC had the Hernandez part, so did Rolling Stone. That's what I'm going with.

[Jake Brennan]

So the victim, Celeste Rivas Hernandez, was

[Zeth Lundy]

14 years old, 11 years old, when this musician David met her. Okay, Now I was aware of that

[Jake Brennan]

and I was also aware of the

[Zeth Lundy]

grisly nature of this crime, the grisly act which this artist is being accused of.

[Jake Brennan]

But I was unaware of the details like I said, until today. And that's because those details came out in court in this new evidence brief and yesterday, presumably because the details of this crime are so damning, are so gruesome, David's defense team formally requested and received a delay in the trial. Now, normally in a case like this that's developing as we're talking to each other week to week, I typically avoid

[Zeth Lundy]

those stories unless they're huge like the Sean Diddy Combs Story.

[Jake Brennan]

I typically avoid those stories until all the dust is settled, until there's been a trial, until there's been some sort of legal resolution, until all of the

[Zeth Lundy]

news has come out, for the most part.

[Jake Brennan]

And you know, at that point, I can piece together the story and I can tell it to you. This story, on the other hand, is a little bit different. It's a little bit like the Sean Combs story because these details are unbelievable. And you know, again, it's all alleged.

[Zeth Lundy]

But I have a real feeling about this one, okay?

[Jake Brennan]

These facts, these details, the stuff that's

[Zeth Lundy]

going on in this Los Angeles courtroom surrounding this artist, it's going to be too hard for us to ignore. So I'm going to get into it

[Jake Brennan]

with you guys here in the after party bonus episodes. And I'm absolutely telling this story as soon as this trial wraps. It's fascinating, like I said, and it's totally upsetting for those who are unaware. Okay, here we go. Up until last fall, David was one of pop music's rising stars.

[Zeth Lundy]

Okay.

[Jake Brennan]

Last year, last spring 2025, he turned in an acclaimed performance at Coachella. He showed up at Fashion Week in Paris. He booked a bunch of brand deals. This guy was a real rising star. This was not some, you know, hip hop artist with a soundcloud who got into trouble and who they're trying to

[Zeth Lundy]

make it seem like he had this

[Jake Brennan]

real career when he didn't, just so they can get clicks and, and inflate his, his importance so that the story seems more relevant. No, this guy, no, this guy was

[Zeth Lundy]

a legit rising star until they found a body in the trunk of his Tesla.

[Jake Brennan]

The body was the victim, his 14

[Zeth Lundy]

year old girlfriend, Celeste Rivas Hernandez. 14 years old. I can't get over this. I just cannot. Her poor, poor parents, her poor family.

[Jake Brennan]

Now the story. That's why I love these court documents. They read like they sometimes, if they're

[Zeth Lundy]

done right, they read like incredible crime novels.

[Jake Brennan]

The details, the compelling details in the

[Zeth Lundy]

evidence brief that was released just last week are, are amazing.

[Jake Brennan]

The story goes like this. It's alleged that David began pursuing Celeste

[Zeth Lundy]

when she was 11 years old and he was 18.

[Jake Brennan]

And it's unclear when exactly they actually hooked up. But it does appear from what I've read, that the relationship began in earnest

[Zeth Lundy]

when she was 13 years old. And again, he was a full grown man.

[Jake Brennan]

Reportedly, as the new evidence brief indicates, David drove his car down to Celeste. Junior high school.

[Zeth Lundy]

High school, I'm not exactly sure.

[Jake Brennan]

14 years old, probably high school freshman.

[Zeth Lundy]

I'm guessing David drove his car down, there was like a south of Los Angeles and he found one of Celeste's classmates paid him $1,000 to deliver a cell phone to Celeste so that he could communicate with the 14 year old. Presumably because her parents were onto the situation and didn't want their daughter communicating with a 21 year old, or 20, however old he was at the time. 20, 21 year old man, understandably so.

[Jake Brennan]

He pays this dude a thousand bucks,

[Zeth Lundy]

this kid, I should say a thousand bucks to deliver the cell phone to Celeste.

[Jake Brennan]

Now, Tex recovered from that cell phone, there's a lot of sexual content. There's photos, photographs, video I think as well of the two of them. And there's a lot of conversations between

[Zeth Lundy]

the two about sex and about the consequences of sex, pregnancy, the morning after pill, et cetera. There's also of course, their conversation, their normal conversation. And in the course of that conversation, at some point Celeste becomes annoyed with

[Jake Brennan]

David and complains that, quote, all we do is have sex and just hang

[Zeth Lundy]

out and I want more than that for myself, unquote.

[Jake Brennan]

Now, the evidence brief claims that in November of 2024, just as David's career is taking off in earnest, as plans to perform at Coachella are cemented, as

[Zeth Lundy]

his trip to Paris for Fashion Week is coming into play, as big dollar

[Jake Brennan]

brand deals are being booked, right time, Celeste starts to get jealous of David's rising star and worried about his growing success and what that meant for their relationship. That's when David breaks it off with Celeste. Prosecutors claim that the text reveal that Celeste was extremely upset and threatened to use the evidence that she had. I'm assuming the photographs of a sexual nature that the two were texting back and forth to one another to take their relationship public into quote, unquote, the brief actually says that this is what Celeste told David. She was going to bring the relationship public to, quote, destroy his life. Can you imagine the defense attorneys hearing this evidence, getting wind of this evidence?

[Zeth Lundy]

It's no wonder they requested that the trial be delayed so that they can prepare.

[Jake Brennan]

Court reporters revealed via TMZ that as this evidence was being recounted, David sat slouched in his chair the entire time, apparently completely nonplussed.

[Zeth Lundy]

And apparently the recounting of the details of this shocking crime did not rattle the young musician.

[Jake Brennan]

Prosecutors are claiming that in the midst

[Zeth Lundy]

of this breakup between David and Celeste,

[Jake Brennan]

David sent an Uber to pick Celeste up on April 23, 2025. Celeste then arrived at David's home, according to uber records, at 10:10pm okay. And it appears that by 10:30pm Celeste was dead. Stabbed to death, allegedly by her boyfriend who sat and watched as the 14

[Zeth Lundy]

year old Bled out on his floor right in front of him.

[Jake Brennan]

At 10:30, David texted Celeste asking where she was. Now prosecutors claim that this was part of the COVID up. Okay, David, the concerned boyfriend texting about his girlfriend's whereabouts.

[Zeth Lundy]

How dumb is this guy?

[Jake Brennan]

The Uber driver dropped her off at his home in the Hollywood Hills. I don't understand what the dude was thinking. Was he going to claim that the coyotes gutter, that Manson family cast offs are still roaming the Hollywood Hills? Perhaps they took Celeste. It's unclear what David is alleged to have done with the body in the immediate aftermath because it took the musician six days to order from Amazon and Postmates, and I kid you not, two chainsaws, a body bag, two heavy duty laundry bags, and a small blue inflatable kiddie pool that he had delivered to his house. Again, where the Uber dropped off his girlfriend, who was now reported missing a few weeks after the chainsaws and the body bag were delivered.

[Zeth Lundy]

Weird question, by the way.

[Jake Brennan]

When did we start making it so

[Zeth Lundy]

you could order body bags off of Amazon? But that's just beside the point.

[Jake Brennan]

Anyway, a few days after the chainsaws and the body bag were delivered to David's home, David started visiting a remote piece of land off of Route 154

[Zeth Lundy]

in Santa Barbara County.

[Jake Brennan]

Presumably this is. Authorities figured out where David went here after his girlfriend went missing because Teslas, they make a digital record of where the car goes. But David here, our criminal mastermind, our MENSA candidate, did not know this.

[Zeth Lundy]

And we should just remind people he also had the victim delivered to his

[Jake Brennan]

house in an Uber that, that he paid for. Okay, so my point is, I guess

[Zeth Lundy]

it's, it's no wonder that he, he didn't realize that the Tesla's GPS was recording where he was going.

[Jake Brennan]

Anyways, the order of events here, it's sketchy from the evidence brief, but what prosecutors are alleging, in short, is that David stabbed Celeste in his home, then hid her identification somewhere on the side of the road, then dismembered her body with a chainsaw that he ordered from Home Depot via Postmates. And he did that in an inflatable pool that he purchased on Amazon and then stuffed her in a body bag that he also purchased on Amazon, put the dismembered and bag body into the trunk of his Tesla.

[Zeth Lundy]

Now it's alleged in the brief that friends complained about the smell coming from the car and that David then moved his car to the street about 400ft from his house, again Mensa candidate, and left it there with the rank body decomposing in the trunk.

[Jake Brennan]

David then split for tour in July of 2025. While he's gone on tour, his car is towed and impounded. The flies hovering around the car in the tow yard were relentless, apparently so.

[Zeth Lundy]

The trunk of the car was open. Celeste dismembered, head and torso were found. Her ring and middle fingers were not.

[Jake Brennan]

David's home was eventually searched. And of all the stupid shit that this dude is alleged to have done

[Zeth Lundy]

this far, this might be the dumbest.

[Jake Brennan]

In reading the evidence brief, I can't be certain, but it appears that this guy kept the kiddie pool, the blue inflatable kiddie pool that he bought on Amazon and that he used to capture the blood from the dismembering of the body. He kept that in his garage and it was found when police searched his home. If record sales correlated to stupidity, this

[Zeth Lundy]

guy would be Michael fucking Jackson.

[Jake Brennan]

Now, there are many, many acts of supreme stupidity from rock stars throughout music history, from the benign and the innocent to the depraved and the gruesome. And I asked Zeth to come up with a list for us to discuss in the exclusive section of the after party coming up right after this.

[Zeth Lundy]

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[Jake Brennan]

Plus ad free. Listen now, I don't think there's any way David gets off, but. But we have to just note, all of this is alleged. Nothing has been proven. This guy is still innocent until proven guilty. There's so much more evidence in the brief here that I did not get into that is truly dramatic and that we're going to dive into.

[Zeth Lundy]

Like I said, once the trial ends, we'll do a proper episode on David now. Okay, Stevie Ray Vaughan.

[Jake Brennan]

Is he on your Mount Rushmore of a guitarist? We released our SRV episode this week, and that was the question of the week that we asked. We'll get into your answer shortly. I'm. Some of you will have something to say about the Sean Combs episodes as well that we released over the weekend

[Zeth Lundy]

as part of our rewind.

[Jake Brennan]

Coming up next, right after this episode on Sunday in our rewind slot this week, our episode on Ariana Grande and the tragedy that took the lives of 22 people at her show in Manchester in 2017. And then next week on Tuesday, our

[Zeth Lundy]

new episode on Christina Grimmie.

[Jake Brennan]

This is another tragic tale, the story of a young talent who is gunned down by a deranged psychopath. And the question I want you guys to be thinking about while you're listening to this Christina Grimmie episode is, which rock star assassination affected you the most? I can tell you, for me, it was most certainly John Lennon's assassination. I was a little boy. It messed me up and, you know, shocked me in a way that I had never been shocked before. Again, I was really young when that happened, as I know most of you were, if you were even alive back then. Blew my mind. But then another one that I found equally shocking in a different way is when I got older and I started this podcast and I started researching the death, the attempted assassination, I should say, of Bob Marley.

[Zeth Lundy]

That one's mind blowing. And we got a great episode on that if you're interested.

[Jake Brennan]

Anyways, 617-906-6638 with your answers to the question, which rockstar assassination affected you the most? Disgraceland pod on the socials. Disgracelandpodgmail.com on the email machine. I'll be back right after this with

[Zeth Lundy]

your answers to last week's question of the week.

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[Voicemail Caller]

Foreign.

[Jake Brennan]

It's that time of the week again. I'm in the phone booth. It's the one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone with you guys. The discos. Let's hear from Tracy in the nine seven zero.

[Voicemail Caller]

Hi, this is Tracy from the 970. My Mount Rushmore guitarists are way more than four, but because it's Mount Rushmore, they are Derek Trucks, Warren Haynes, Trey Anastasio, and Samantha Fish. All right, you may or may not agree, but we all get to like what we like, right? Okay, thanks. Bye.

[Jake Brennan]

All right, Tracy, thank you so much for the call.

[Zeth Lundy]

Yes, we do all get to like what we like. I have never heard of Samantha Fish.

[Jake Brennan]

I had to look her up.

[Zeth Lundy]

Thank you. Now, I got a good recommendation here, which I wasn't.

[Jake Brennan]

I wasn't expecting. Your tastes sort of tend to lean more toward the jam band side of the fence than mine do. But.

[Zeth Lundy]

But that doesn't mean anything because your point is a valid one. We all get to like what we like, right?

[Jake Brennan]

Appreciate the call, Tracy. All right, let's check out this one

[Zeth Lundy]

from Melissa and the three One zero.

[Voicemail Caller]

Okay, it's Melissa from the three One zero again. I've got to tell you about this amazing show that I always remember loving. It was Guns N Roses and TSOL at the palace in Hollywood. And the palace is like this smallish, old timey, very historic venue. And this was in 1987 or 88. So they were just starting to get huge. And it was such a rocking show. Anyway, I just thought I'd tell you that all my friends were goths and rockers because I love it all. Thanks for all you do. Bye, Melissa.

[Jake Brennan]

Thanks for the call. Sounds like you're having fun out there

[Zeth Lundy]

in the 31 0.

[Jake Brennan]

I remember Duff McKagan wearing a TSOL

[Zeth Lundy]

shirt in one of the Guns N Roses videos from that first album. And it was a signal that they were into punk.

[Jake Brennan]

And back then, the metalheads and the punk rockers didn't mix together. Not in my hometown, anyways. So that was very interesting. And it's interesting to hear that you

[Zeth Lundy]

actually saw TSM TSOL play with Guns N Roses.

[Jake Brennan]

87. I wonder who opened up that show.

[Zeth Lundy]

I wonder if it was Guns N Roses or I wonder if it was tsol.

[Jake Brennan]

Thanks for the call, Melissa. All right, let's check out the 61 2.

[Voicemail Caller]

Hey, Jake, it's Chris. Call from the 61 2. Just got done listening to the Stevie Ray Vaughan episode and thought I'd give a call and get my Mount Rushmore guitar players. I was actually at that show at Alpine Valley and call from Minnesota, and I was 15 years old drinking Coors Light party balls at Alpine Valley. And everybody thought it was aircraft and saw a helicopter that crashed at first. So for a little bit, we thought aircraft was dead. Anyway, Mount Rushmore top four. I'd have to say B.B. king's up there for sure. He's kind of the foundation for everybody else. Jerry Garcia, not necessarily the technically best guitar player, but he's got the feel and the sound. Number three would have to be Derek Truss. He's just still got plenty of time to go, and I think he's already up there on the Mount Rushmore. And then my last is Dwayne Allman from the Allman Brothers Band. Those four, you can tell what kind of music I'm into. But for me, those are the Mount Rushmore guitar players. Thanks a lot. Keep doing what you're doing.

Appreciate it it, Chris.

[Jake Brennan]

Appreciate the call out there in the 612. Amazing that you're at that show.

[Zeth Lundy]

And I.

[Jake Brennan]

You know, the Clapton thing blows my mind.

[Zeth Lundy]

I'd heard that before. It's. It's wild to hear it come from somebody who was there, though.

[Jake Brennan]

Like your list, too. Especially the B.B. king and the Jerry Garcia parts.

[Zeth Lundy]

B.B.

[Jake Brennan]

king, we need an episode.

[Zeth Lundy]

I want to do something on Lucille and how. How his guitar got that name and the fire behind it.

[Jake Brennan]

That incident. BB Was incredible. One of a kind. Incredibly, incredibly influential. So Influential. I think that his influence is kind of people don't pay him enough. This is gonna sound crazy, but I

[Zeth Lundy]

just feel like people don't pay enough attention to B.B. king as a guitar player because he became so much more than that. And he lived forever. But I hear you, man. And Jerry as well. Incredibly inventive. Incredibly inventive guitar player.

[Jake Brennan]

All right, let's do one more voicemail here.

[Zeth Lundy]

Let's go to the 91 7.

[Voicemail Caller]

Hi, Jake, this is Taya from New

York city from the 917. I'm catching up on podcast episodes right now as I'm running my Sunday errands.

And I just caught up on the

April 9th bonus episode of Disgraceland, where

you asked about our podcast routines, but

you also announced the huge announcement about Disgraceland joining. Exactly Right. And it was really funny because I was washing my dishes as I was listening, and. And I haven't called in yet, but this is the perfect one because I got so excited when I heard about your union with Exactly Right that I screamed no way. With, like, my rubber gloves on as I'm, like, scrubbing pots and pans. And I was so happy to hear

that because this is two podcasts.

I love two podcasts I've been following for a very long time. I'm talking about my favorite Murder in Disgrace Land, and I've been following Exactly Right since the inception as well. And I' love the growth. I love that my little podcast world, you know, has been unifying in this way. And I always think of podcasts as like having your friends in your living room. And when you've been listening this long, you feel like the hosts are your friends. Right? So I'm happy for you. I'm happy for Georgia and Karen. I'm happy for Exactly Right and I'm happy for the fans.

So shout out to disco.

Shout out to my favorite murder. Murderinos. Shout out to everybody who listens to Exactly Right.

Peace, guys.

[Jake Brennan]

Taya, thank you so much for the call. I love that your podcast friends are

[Zeth Lundy]

our friends and they're all hanging out. I like the way you. I like the way you think about

[Jake Brennan]

it, and I like the depiction of your Sunday.

[Zeth Lundy]

Your Sunday chores and the news hitting

[Jake Brennan]

you and you're getting all excited. Amazing. Thank you. Thank you so much, guys. I want to know what you're doing when you're listening to Disgraceland.

[Zeth Lundy]

Let us know. Get in touch. Like Taya here. Taya's doing her chores on Sunday and she's catching up, but we also have our rewinds on Sunday. Now to make it easy for you to binge, because we all get time on Sunday to just listen to some podcasts, don't we? Be like Taya, listen to Disgraceland on the Sabbath. That's what I'm saying.

[Jake Brennan]

Also, be like the 646 and hit me up with a text 617-90666, 38646 says hey, Robert Johnson, Chuck Berry, B.B. king, Jimi Hendrix is the goat.

[Zeth Lundy]

Those are the four folks on the 646's Mount Rushmore.

[Jake Brennan]

Hard to argue with that list.

[Zeth Lundy]

Talk about inventiveness between Robert Johnson, Chuck Berry, B.B. king and Jimi Hendrix. That's. That's pretty incredible.

[Jake Brennan]

276 Texts in Hey, Johnny Thunders, Mick Ronson, Malcolm Young, Rick Agnew, and Ivy Rorschach. That's five. Man, you broke the rules.

[Zeth Lundy]

I like the Ivy one, though. I really do. I want to talk about that more in a minute when I give you my list.

[Jake Brennan]

724 Text Hey Jake, got a chance to catch up on episodes. Surprised he didn't put Big Lurch cannibalizing

[Zeth Lundy]

his girlfriend in that list because it's one of the stuck with me after listening to your episodes and the one

[Jake Brennan]

I still think about when someone mentions true crime. As for my Gone Too Soon, Mount Rushmore, Lane Staley, Robert Johnson, Jimi Hendrick,

[Zeth Lundy]

John Bonham, and that's it.

[Jake Brennan]

That's the list.

[Zeth Lundy]

Much love to you in yours later

[Jake Brennan]

days, did I ask the question two different ways? the end of the Stevie Ray Vaughan episode, did I ask who's on your Mount Rushmore of guitar players? And in the after party, did I ask about your Mount Rushmore have Gone Too soon artists?

[Zeth Lundy]

I might have. I might have because I got a couple texts like this, like the one from the 724. If I did that, I apologize, but shit gets crazy around here. I can't keep track of everything, you know what I'm saying?

[Jake Brennan]

It's a lot going on.

[Zeth Lundy]

I got a lot going on here. I got two cameras going. I got a recording software.

[Jake Brennan]

It's. This is all kinds of stuff, you know, I'm hanging on by a thread

[Zeth Lundy]

is what I'm saying.

[Jake Brennan]

My Mount Rushmore of four rock stars gone too soon from the 217 first I think is on obvious Kurt Cobain.

[Zeth Lundy]

I picture his future would have been like a reverse Dylan, where he would have slowly transitioned into a more folky type of musician.

[Jake Brennan]

2nd Bradley Knoll 3rd Shannon Hoon Last

[Zeth Lundy]

Mia Zapata well, hot damn, that's a. That's a hell of a list there, Bradley. Noel, Shannon, Hoon, Mia Zapata and Kurt Cobain. Can't mess with that.

[Jake Brennan]

All right, listen, I don't have a

[Zeth Lundy]

Mount Rushmore of Gone Too soon artists. I probably could if I thought about it, but I wasn't prepared. I do have a Mount Rushmore of guitar players, and I assure you that none of you are going to like this. No one is going to like anybody's answer here.

[Jake Brennan]

I can only hope that the answers from you all prompt others to check out guitar players they may not have listened to before. And for that reason, for that reason,

[Zeth Lundy]

Poison Ivy, Rorschach is on my list of four.

[Jake Brennan]

Now, you might be like, what the who even is that?

[Zeth Lundy]

Well, it's a guitar player for the Cramps.

[Jake Brennan]

And the inventiveness not only of her

[Zeth Lundy]

guitar playing, but her production style around guitar concerning the the specific type of punk rock they were making at the

[Jake Brennan]

time and the limitations they had in making it. She's incredibly, incredibly important and incredibly inventive. And I gotta say, I listen to a lot of Cramps these days. So she's just top of mind. Now, I don't know how you guys approached this list. I could have kept on that thread of going, well, I'm listening to a lot of, you know, Sonic Youth right now, which I am. So, you know, I'll put Lee Ronaldo on the list and why not? Or go even further. Glenn Branca, who, you know, Thurston Moore. I mean, these guys did incredible things in the advancement of guitar playing in rock and roll. But I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to stay with the current.

[Zeth Lundy]

Aside from my listening of Poison Ivy right now in the Cramps, I'm going

[Jake Brennan]

to throw it back in the opposite

[Zeth Lundy]

direction of the first guitar player that

[Jake Brennan]

truly, truly possessed me. And I don't use that word flippantly.

[Zeth Lundy]

I have a six foot poster of the man right there on my door and that is Mr. Angus Young from ACDC.

[Jake Brennan]

Now, I know Malcolm was the brains, his brother was the brains behind the

[Zeth Lundy]

guitar playing in ACDC.

[Jake Brennan]

But as a 12 year old obsessed with the hardest rock and roll I could find, the most energetic music I could find to fuel all the test testosterone I had coursing through me. Angus Young possessed me. And it wasn't just his mad looks and his schoolboy uniform and the constant ball of energy. It was actually the playing. It was the soloing was just incredible. And it wasn't like it was technical in any way. I know that.

[Liberty Mutual Advertiser]

I know the.

[Voicemail Caller]

Slow down. Slow down.

[Jake Brennan]

You who recommended Steve Vai and then

[Zeth Lundy]

took him off your list in the 406.

[Jake Brennan]

Listen, I know Angus Young.

[Zeth Lundy]

Young.

[Jake Brennan]

I know he was not a. A technically astute guitar player. I know he's basically just injecting steroids into what Chuck Berry was doing. But that energy and that approach, it did something to me. It grabbed me and it shook me.

[Zeth Lundy]

It held me by the throat and

[Jake Brennan]

I couldn't listen to. I didn't care about. I mean, I cared about Eddie Van Halen, but. Look, man, you weren't going to convince me that Eddie.

[Zeth Lundy]

Any Van Halen was better. Better than. Than Angus. Angus Young.

[Jake Brennan]

You just weren't.

[Zeth Lundy]

And I loved Eddie Van Halen. And Eddie Van Halen is number three on my list.

[Jake Brennan]

So that's Poison Ivy, Angus Young and Eddie Van Halen. And I know there's some of you out there who I just lost all

[Zeth Lundy]

kinds of credibility with, but I, you know, this is.

[Jake Brennan]

This is today. This is today. This is. I'm recording this on May 13, 2026.

[Zeth Lundy]

And I have different criteria for different. Different selections.

[Jake Brennan]

The last slot goes to.

[Zeth Lundy]

Someone said it earlier, the Goat. And that is Jimi Hendrix. Nobody did what Jimi Hendrix did with the guitar before Jimi Hendrix. And I know some of you think

[Jake Brennan]

that our subject of this last episode of Disgrace and Stevie Ray Vaughan is

[Zeth Lundy]

actually better than Jimi Hendrix. I know you prefer his playing to Jimi Hendrix, but all I can tell you is when I hear Stevie Ray Vaughan play, yes, I am blown away. Absolutely. And I watched the clips, and I'm just. I'm so lucky that. That I got to live at the same time that this guy was making music.

[Voicemail Caller]

And.

[Zeth Lundy]

And, yeah, I never saw him like some of you did, but I understand how important Steve Ray Vaughan is. At the same time, Stevie Ray Vaughan gets so much of what he did from Jimi Hendrix. Poison Ivy. Not so much Angus Young. Indirectly.

[Jake Brennan]

Indirectly. Okay. And Eddie Van Halen, like Hendrix, took everything to a whole new place.

[Zeth Lundy]

A whole new place.

[Jake Brennan]

If you want to argue that Eddie

[Zeth Lundy]

Van Halen is better than Jimi Hendrix, I will at least listen to you.

[Jake Brennan]

I don't know that I'll agree with you, but when I hear Eddie Van

[Zeth Lundy]

Halen play, unlike when I hear Stevie Ray Vaughan play, I hear more Martians in his playing than I do any other guitar player. Okay. I guess that's what I'm saying.

[Jake Brennan]

So that's my incredibly dumb list. It's Poison Ivy, Angus Young, Eddie Van

[Zeth Lundy]

Halen, and Jimi Hendrix. You can fight me if you Want to call 617-906-6638.

[Jake Brennan]

Happy to talk to y'.

[Voicemail Caller]

All.

[Jake Brennan]

I just want to read the 406 text here because I alluded to it. Oh, yeah, Montana Mike here. Great series. I lean towards thrash metal. So in this order, James Hetfield, Buckethead,

[Zeth Lundy]

Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, four, Omit Vye. Oh, that's five. He's got fives.

[Jake Brennan]

Yeah, you can't have Steve Vai and

[Zeth Lundy]

Joe Satriani on the same list.

[Jake Brennan]

Wasn't Joe Satriani Steve Vai's guitar teacher?

[Zeth Lundy]

So I think you got to go with Satriani in this one.

[Jake Brennan]

All right. Anyways, I'll be back right after this

[Zeth Lundy]

with a very important update. Don't go anywhere.

[Liberty Mutual Advertiser]

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[Jake Brennan]

Hey, everyone, check out this guy and his bird. What is this, your first date?

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[Liberty Mutual Advertiser]

We help people customize and save on car insurance with Liberty Mutual together. We're married. Me to a human, him to a bird.

[Jake Brennan]

Yeah, the bird looks out of your league.

[Liberty Mutual Advertiser]

Anyways, get a [e-mail] or with your local agent.

[Verbo Care Advertiser]

Liberty. Liberty.

[Jake Brennan]

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Liberty.

[Dani Shapiro]

Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Dani Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets.

[Family Secrets Narrator]

Just then, we felt the plane turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle.

[Dani Shapiro]

Each week, we dive headfirst into the complex power of secrecy. How it shapes our identity, identities, and relationships, and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves.

[Family Secrets Caller]

My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything and me pretending like everything was fine.

He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door, and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him.

[Dani Shapiro]

Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Host of Psychology of Your 20s]

May is mental health awareness month, and your 20s, they can feel like a lot. On the psychology of your 20s podcast, we unpack the anxiety, the overthinking, the heartbreak, the identity crisis, all of it. That comes with being in your 20s. Because if you've ever thought, is anybody else feeling this way? This, they definitely are.

[Guest on Psychology of Your 20s]

I feel like my 20s was a process of checking off everything that I was not good at to get to what I was good at. Oftentimes we take everything a little bit too seriously and we get lost in things that we later on decide weren't even important to us to begin with.

There was a large chunk of my 20s that I, like, was just so wanting to, like, be out of that phase, out of my skin. And I just, like, really regret not living in the present more.

[Host of Psychology of Your 20s]

Each week we break down the science behind what you're going through and give you real tools to navigate it. Your 20s aren't about having it all figured out. They're about understanding yourself just a little bit better. Listen to the psychology of your 20s on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jake Brennan]

All right, so for those of you who missed out on last week's afterparty

[Zeth Lundy]

who weren't with us, and if you're not on Patreon, last week we got into the very important business of determining

[Jake Brennan]

which classic sitcom theme songs are the best. And we got a whole team of scientists and technologists and crack researchers devoted

[Zeth Lundy]

to answering this question. And many of you have chimed in with your passionate pleas and testimonials in favor of one sitcom theme over another. And Matt here, here is the resident mad scientist at Double Elvis behind this monumental question that we're trying to answer, of which is the greatest sitcom theme songs.

[Jake Brennan]

So I'm going to turn it over to Matt here for an update on our poll here.

[Zeth Lundy]

We've opened it up.

[Jake Brennan]

Matt, I'm not going to try explaining it. Please just tell the listeners who weren't here last week what this is, what we're doing briefly and a little more

[Zeth Lundy]

brevity than you explained it last week,

[Jake Brennan]

what we're doing doing and where the voting stands right now and how we're

[Zeth Lundy]

trying to solve this riddle that is so important to so many of us. Matt, give us a little update.

[Podcast Content Warning Voice]

Well, we're in the thick of the second round of the tournament right now, the round of 32. A couple of really close matchups to watch here. We've got the Fresh Prince of Bel Air versus the Greatest American Hero. Very, very close matchup right now. Same thing with the Flintstones vs Diff'rent strokes. And we got to see if those animated shows, the Flintstones and the Jetsons, can continue their Cinderella stories in this tournament. And if you haven't voted, you've got until Friday at 11:59pm Eastern to cast your vote in the round of 32. Just go to patreon.com disgraceland and cast your vote. Vote today.

[Jake Brennan]

All right, so there you have it. Listen, this is where we're at with our May Madness sitcom music slugfest.

[Zeth Lundy]

So you can, you can, you can let your voice be heard, you can, you can affect, you can impact the, the outcome here. Just go to Patreon to vote and be part of the conversation and you

[Jake Brennan]

don't have to be a paid Patreon member to do so. Okay. Patreon.com Disgraceland you want to email me disgracelandpodgmail.com this one comes from John Sel subject King Von Rapp's first serial killer. Hello Jake, new listener but big fan

[Zeth Lundy]

transplant from your my favorite murder episode.

[Jake Brennan]

Listening to your back catalog now and

[Zeth Lundy]

I am loving it.

[Jake Brennan]

I'm a huge punk rock fan. My wife and I had no Effects's

[Zeth Lundy]

Hot Dog in the Hallway as our wedding song.

[Jake Brennan]

Not huge into rap, but I wanted to bring this artist to your attention. A Chicago rapper named King Vaughn who allegedly killed six to 10 people.

[Zeth Lundy]

An insane case of how he killed people and had a Billboard top 100 hit going to number 40.

[Jake Brennan]

His death led to a retaliatory murder

[Zeth Lundy]

for higher Plot funded by a Grammy award winning artist named Little Dirk whose trial is currently going on.

[Jake Brennan]

There have been a few YouTube documentaries.

[Zeth Lundy]

A great one to check out is by Trap Lore Ross.

[Jake Brennan]

But I'd love your take on this. And if I could recommend one song

[Zeth Lundy]

that gives you a peek behind the

[Jake Brennan]

current to this man's life, I'd recommend Demon by King Von a huge fan.

[Zeth Lundy]

Love what you do. Rock a roll.

[Jake Brennan]

John Sells. Thank you so much for this. You know, someone mentioned this to me

[Zeth Lundy]

years ago and I forgot about it. And I'm going to make a note right now so I don't forget about it because I absolutely want to cover this story.

[Jake Brennan]

Welcome John, new listener. Appreciate you and appreciate you contributing here with this recommendation. All right, Paris Hilton and the Bling

[Zeth Lundy]

Ring are happening over in the Hollywoodland feed this week. Seth and I in the Rap party are recommending music in movies that are heist based, obviously because of this whole Bling Ring saga.

[Jake Brennan]

Matt, give him a little clip of our conversation.

[Zeth Lundy]

And guys, if you're not subscrib, subscribe to Hollywoodland. Make sure you are. Here's what you're missing.

[Hollywoodland Host]

I went back to my youth here

[Jake Brennan]

and I try to do this as

[Hollywoodland Host]

subjectively as possible, rather than sort of objectively as like a music historian or an academic. And I went back to 1988, 89, when I first heard the self titled debut by Glenn Danzig, the album Danzig. And there's this song on that album called the Hunter, and it has this lyric. They call me the hunter. That's my name. Pretty young thing like you it's my only game. And the melody here for the song immediately struck me as. As a young kid now. A young kid. Not some dude who's like steeped in

[Zeth Lundy]

40 years of music history. Right.

[Hollywoodland Host]

Like a 14, 15, 16 year old. However I was when I first heard it.

[Zeth Lundy]

Yeah.

[Hollywoodland Host]

And going like, wait a minute, I know this song. What is this song? And I look to the Danzig liner notes and it's written by Glenn Danzig and I'm like, this is not written by Glenn Danzig. What is this song? And turns out it's How Many More Times By Led Zeppelin? You know, do do do do do

[Zeth Lundy]

do do do do.

[Jake Brennan]

How Many More Times?

[Hollywoodland Host]

And then it breaks down. Yeah, exactly. And then Robert Plant goes in into that vocal riff.

[Jake Brennan]

Well, it's hard to be the Hunter, you know?

[Hollywoodland Host]

No, and Danzig lifted the exact. Almost the exact same thing.

[Liberty Mutual Advertiser]

Well, Robert Plant probably lifted it from some old bluesman.

[Jake Brennan]

Well, hold on, it gets better. So I'm like, oh, damn, they stole this from. He stole this from Led Zeppelin and he didn't. Didn't credit them. What balls.

[Hollywoodland Host]

So then like, I don't know, 10

[Jake Brennan]

years later or whatever. I'm a little more curious.

[Hollywoodland Host]

I'm a little more well read.

[Jake Brennan]

Of course. Now, of course, we could talk for

[Hollywoodland Host]

days about Led Zeppelin stealing music from what people would call obscure blues musicians. Some of them aren't obscure at all. But that's just sort of the rap, you know what I mean? The Search Engine Rap and Stairway to Heaven being. It's not a blues musician where they borrow from, but the most famous of these sort of indictments of Led Zeppelin,

[Jake Brennan]

but this one in particular is. Is particularly egregious because Led Zeppelin stole that.

[Hollywoodland Host]

The Hunter, that riff inside. How many more times they stole those that the melody and the riff on the lyrics from an Albert King song.

[Jake Brennan]

All right, guys, subscribe to Hollywood Land on Apple Podcasts, the iHeartRadio at wherever

[Zeth Lundy]

you get your podcasts.

[Jake Brennan]

We're about to get into this exclusive

[Zeth Lundy]

behind the scenes conversation here of some the stupidest things.

[Jake Brennan]

Stupid, Stupid Rock star tricks, I think

[Zeth Lundy]

is what I'm calling this.

[Jake Brennan]

The dumbest things that musicians have done

[Zeth Lundy]

and this is coming off the heels of the masked criminal mastermind, alleged criminal mastermind David, and the ongoing saga that's unfolding out in the LA courtrooms right now.

[Jake Brennan]

So if you want in on that conversation Disgracelandpod.com to sign up, become a

[Zeth Lundy]

Disgraceland All Access member today day.

[Jake Brennan]

All right, guys, welcome back. In this week we talked about a

[Zeth Lundy]

ton of artists, obviously because of our Mount Rushmore conversation.

[Jake Brennan]

We got a Van Halen episode I was hot on the Cramps, Poison Ivy.

[Zeth Lundy]

Check out that Cramps episode if you haven't already. AC dc, Jimi Hendrix, all kinds stuff of and stuff. Matt will have the episode information in the show notes section of this here after party. Let's recap.

[Jake Brennan]

Number one, this week, Stevie Ray Vaughan.

[Zeth Lundy]

So new episodes available for you right now. Number two, our rewind episode on Ariana Grande that's coming for you on Sunday.

[Jake Brennan]

Number three, next week, our brand new

[Zeth Lundy]

episode on Christina Grimmie. Number four, Zest's gonna give you those

[Jake Brennan]

Hollywood and crime vibes in Hollywoodland.

[Zeth Lundy]

So make sure you're subscribed and I'm gonna give you my music Rex in the wrap party.

[Jake Brennan]

Number five, this film should be played loud. Our video podcast, last episode on High Fidelity.

[Zeth Lundy]

That's the latest one. We got a new one coming on the Royal Tenenbaums and the music of that film that'll be coming soon. Make sure you are an All Access member to get that content.

[Jake Brennan]

617-906-6638 guys, your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history. So keep calling, keep texting with your answers to this week's question of the week or with whatever else you want to talk about. Number seven, do not forget discos. This isn't just content. It's a community. A community of the obsessed. No one cares about music, books, records

[Zeth Lundy]

and the crime and grime that ties them all together like you do. And well, that's a disgrace.

[Jake Brennan]

All right, Stevie Ray Vaughan died back on August 27, 1990, and this is

[Zeth Lundy]

what America was listening to on that day, according to the billboard charts. Number 1 Vision of Love Mariah Carey. Last Week 1 Peak Position 1 Weeks on Chart 13 Number 2 Come Back to Janet Jackson Last Week 2 Peak Position 2 Weeks on Chart 9 Number

[Jake Brennan]

3 if Wishes Came True Sweet Sensation

[Zeth Lundy]

Last Week 3 Peak Position 3 Weeks on Charts 11 Number 4 UN Skinny Poison Last Week 5 Peak Position 4

[Jake Brennan]

Weeks on Check Chart 8 Number 5

[Zeth Lundy]

Blaze of Glory Young Gods Too last.

[Jake Brennan]

Quit talking and start mixing. Cut it.