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Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the After Party. This is the show after the show. The party after the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard. To dig into the dirt on this bonus episode, we are talking about Prince Part 2. We're also previewing our coming Basquiat episode, Talking Slap Heard Round the World in the Hollywoodland minute, along with a Music and True Crime Trial of the Century update. And we get into your voicemails, text, DMs, emails, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. All right, discos, let's get into it. So a big part of The Prince Part 2 episode that we released this week deals with the time the Prince was creating making music in the 1980s, specifically the mid-80s, specifically the time around the release of Prince's album signed of the Times, which I believe came out in 1987. This is Prince's social commentary on that era. Sign of the Times is thematically, Prince took a cue here from Curtis Mayfield, from Marvin Gaye, and he's addressing societal ills from that era, the 80s, crack epidemic, poverty, AIDS, and like I said, just in general, societal ills. Okay, now I found a great quote about Sign of the Times from Writer and I apologize if I'm butchering this guy's name. I couldn't find the pronunciation for it. Writer's name is Hanif Abdurraqweeb. I believe that's how you say his name. And Hanif, if I'm getting it wrong, I apologize, but I'm going to spell his last name. You guys want to look this up? A B D U R R A Q U I B okay, so this quote from Hanif says on the politics of Sign of the Times that they quote are not those of solutions but those of survival in the face of which you might not survive for much longer. The politics of survival say that we may dance in the face of a coming apocalypse. We may, in the face of a coming apocalypse, go to bed with someone or love someone we didn't know right before it started. We may play in the streets or fantasize about a new world to run into. On Sign of the Times. After laying out a terrifying landscape, Prince pushes the landscape aside, lays out all of our options for survival and tells us to take our pick again. That's Hanif Abduraqwib for MTV News. Actually on Prince's Sign of the Times, the purple one's commentary on the era that he was creating in at the time in the mid-1980s. Now this era, the era that we are in right now in 2025, needs some attention in today's after party. Survival, as you just heard in that quote, was a theme of Sign of the Times. And I can't help but be reminded of Cassi Ventura, who testified this week in this era's trial of the century in the Sean Diddy Combs case. Okay, I'm not sure what Cassie Ventura feared the most before she went to bed with Sean Combs for the first time. I'm not sure what she perceived to be her quote, unquote, coming apocalypse or if she had one at all. But if the prosecution and this trial that started this week is telling the truth, then it's being made clear to all of us right now in that courtroom that Diddy himself was Cassie's apocalypse. The details revealed in the first few days of this trial, including of course, Cassie's recounting of their relationship up there on the stand. These details are shocking. Never mind the sordid sex stuff, of which there is plenty. The more benign details about how Cassie and Diddy first got together play out like a cautionary after school special for young beautiful women trying to make it in the music business. Cassie testified on Tuesday of this week for six hours. You can hear from the prosecutors questioning the building blocks for the racketeering case that they're trying to make. And the prosecution, I think based on the legal analysis that I've read so far, did pretty well in this area. Okay. Now it remains to be seen how this is going to play out. Cassie has not yet had to stand up there and take questions from the defense. But as for the Prosecution, like I mentioned, they had a lot of questions regarding who worked for who, who did what, what their roles were, and that's that that's gonna speak to the racketeering part of this. But they also got, and this is what you're gonna read a lot about, you're gonna hear a lot about in the coming days. They also got into the freak off details. Now, it's important to note that these details were discussed in a courtroom, ok? Under the penalty of perjury. This is much, much different than sordid celebrity sexual conjecture on TikTok. Okay? This is where things get real, guys. These details are being brought out into the public by prosecutors because prosecutors that they have enough evidence to prove that these details are true and that they're going to help them win their case. Now, that is a much different paradigm than some TikTok creator blasting out whatever their cousin, stepfather's, uncle's mechanic heard at the cookout over the weekend. It doesn't mean that these details that we just heard in court this week are true. Not yet anyway. But it does mean that their veracity is a lot more likely to than anything that we've heard in public prior to the start of this trial. This is why when I did that last episode on Sean Combs, I based the entire thing on the indictments, the actual legal documents, okay? Because with so much noise out there, who the hell knows what is real and what is not? But when prosecutors approach the details, the facts, the accusations, when they approach them with legality, you know, you are erring closer to the truth than anything else. Okay? And I want to take a little victory lap here and note that a lot of the details that Cassie gave on the stand corroborate the details from our last episode on Sean Combs. Specifically, one little bit here is the bit about the color of her fingernails, that specificity that Combs made her paint her nails with before engaging in a freak off that came out in court. And there's more. There's a ton more. The details are. Honestly, Prince would blush, okay? Perhaps Prince would even gag, maybe throw open his mouth. The details are fucking disgusting. They are gnarly. And every legal analyst that I've heard from thus far who was in the courtroom has said the same thing that they were hard to hear, okay? This isn't some hardcore true crime murder with disgusting, violent details. This is all about sex. And every legal analyst that I've heard so far has said the same thing that they just wanted the testimony to stop. Masks, stripper heels, as you can guess. Lots and lots of baby oil. Even more baby oil than you can imagine. I know that sounds ridiculous, but it's true. Cassie testified about unwanted sex acts that she was forced into by Sean Combs. How he would urinate onto her, into her mouth at one point, choking her in that act. Okay. It's. There's also. There's so much more. Okay. She testified to more disgusting behavior that I'm gonna get into here. It's worse than what I just detailed. Okay. So that should tell you how bad it is. I'm not gonna get into it here. It's that bad. It's important to note, I guess this is as good a place as any, that Sean Combs denies any wrongdoing here. Okay. Maintains his innocence. But in the first few days of this trial, my. I'm just. On the one hand, I'm shocked that. I'm shocked after everything I know about this, about all the details that I already understand, I'm already well versed in. I'm shocked that I am shocked. But here I am. Now, by the time you've heard this episode, Cassie will have had another session on the standard. Who knows what other details are gonna be divulged. The defense is gonna get a shot here approving to the jury that Cassie was a willing participant in this activity. That's gonna be what their claim is, that she was just as freaky as he was. We're gonna see if they're successful in making that case or not. This trial's gonna be going on for about another eight weeks or so. The first week is proving to be explosive, and it's so explosive that I'm spending a little more time here in the afterparty on it than I thought I would. And just so you guys know, as the trial develops, I'm gonna be bringing you my point of view on the facts, on the details, on what we're getting in court, when I think it's relevant. I'm not saying we're going to be doing it every week, but who knows? Maybe that. Maybe the details will just be. You won't be able to ignore them. Maybe this will be a true trial of the century, and maybe we'll have cause to discuss every week. But like I said, when something pops off and I feel like my voice and my opinion is going to add something, I'm going to talk to you about it here in the after party. And then when this trial wraps, like I said, in about eight weeks, we will have our third and final Sean Diddy Combs episode on Disgraceland for you guys. All right. Before all of that, we have a rewind episode of Disgraceland coming your way tomorrow. Next in your feed, right after this bonus episode, we're revisiting our episodes on the grateful dead. Part one on the dead's origins, which is a ride through mid-60s Americana, weird Americana, I should say, with Ron Pigpen, McKernan. And then part two, which is more of a complete career span of the Grateful Dead. Deadheads, Dead curious, you fish heads, you jam band aficionados. These episodes are for you. They're for everybody, really, but they're really for you guys. This wasn't my world. I brought myself into your world, and I hope that I held a mirror up to it in a way that you appreciate. So check out these episodes. Incidentally, we're in the middle of planning right now a pretty incredible, super crimy episode on Fish that we're going to be bringing to you later in this year. But that's another story. All right. Following the Dead coming Tuesday, our episode on Basquiat. We cover not only Basquiat's art in this episode, but also his musicianship. Okay, so when you're listening to this episode, be thinking about what musicians, what rock stars excelled at, a second art or a second sport. It could be a visual art like Basquiat. Lots of rock stars are or were great painters. George Harrison comes to mind, Bob Dylan. But it can be anything. It can be a sport. Rod Stewart, supposedly a great soccer player. I think Lars from Metallica almost went pro as a tennis player. I know that Bruce from Iron Maiden, pretty serious fencer. So I'm interested in this because I think the same sort of tenacity that you have to bring to one medium, one art, one piece of subject matter, one area of your life that you commit yourself to. I think it's transferable in a lot of ways for a lot of people. And I'm interested to know who's done it in sort of two arenas, so to speak, which rock star was just as good at another art or sport as he or she was at music? That's going to be the question of the week next week. 617906-6638. Give me a call. Let me know. Send me a text with your answers. I'll be hanging on the telephone with you guys on the other side of this break with your voicemails and texts from last week's Question of the week.
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All right, we are back. Apple podcast listeners, make sure you have auto downloads turned on so you don't miss any episodes. All right, guys, listen. 617-906-6638. You know where I'm at? I'm in the phone booth. It's the one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone. You want to send me a voicemail or text 617-906-6638 to do so? You know, in light of this Prince episode this week we asked the question, which artist best seized their moment? Their moment in time? Was it Stevie Wonder? I think I threw Stevie out there. Marvin Gaye, perhaps? I talked about Curtis Mayfield a little bit earlier. In this episode, 609 calls in with this answer.
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Jake, you're a badass. It's Wal hoffson from the 609 country. Listen, the person who sees the moment most was Elvis Presley. 1956. Come on. Forget about it, bro.
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609. Great answer. Obvious, obvious one. Elvis Presley. I can't believe I didn't think of that. Appreciate you. Thanks for calling in. Let's get the same question answered from the 91 6.
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Hey, Jake. This is Mr. Taylor from Raleigh, North Carolina, by way of the 916, responding to your question about a band that captured a moment in time. And this is one that is definitely not great music, but I think they hit the mark. LMFAO Party Band comes out in 2008, 2009, 2010. We're in the midst of a recession. We're in two different wars. The country was divided politically and myself, as an older millennial, was struggling, as do our many others were, to deal with an economy that was not providing options and opportunities that we were promised. And here comes a band that comes out and has a simple message which is essentially, fuck it, man. We might as well have a good time. We might as well party. Around that time, I was in my late 20s, early 30s. You could not go into a bar or a club or anywhere else and not hear lmfao, the rest of that crew, Dirk, Nasty, Mickey Avalon, Little John. It was just party music. It was designed to distract from the fact that none of us were going to get the opportunities we thought we were going to have. You're not going to have a house, you're not going to have much money. You might as well have a good time. So that's what we did. We partied, we had fun. We were probably too old to still be partying, but there was little else that we could do with a little money that we still had. So I think that's an interesting example. Love to hear your thoughts on that. Love the show.
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Rock a roll up 916. Incredible answer. I love it. Super thoughtful. I love the way you laid it out. And I can attest I was there during that time. You are absolutely right. Ele fao. That song was everywhere. And it did capture the feeling of that moment that you just. That you just so well articulated. It's interesting. You said, you know, as a millennial. I'm not a millennial. I'm Gen X. But I do remember that moment. And I wasn't a sort of a, at that time in my life, a sort of prolonged adolescence and, you know, kind of acting like a. Like a dirtbag and doing things I probably was too old to be doing at that time. And it's funny you say as a millennial, you weren't Going to have the opportunities to do the things that you were promised. And I just had this thought, you know, in Gen X, we weren't promised shit. We just came at it like we weren't going to get anything. Excuse me. And I think millennials had a much different upbringing with their parents where they were sort of, you guys kind of grew up on padded playgrounds and, you know, that sort of thing. But hey, I'm not judging. I love you. I'm married to one of you. So there we go. Love the call. Thank you. 916. Sort of on point with that. Same sort of on theme with that. With that answer of mine there and that voicemail we just heard from the caller. I want to go to this voicemail from the 917 from Martha, and she's talking about Winona from a couple weeks back, but it's still apropos of the discussion we're having right here. This is the 917. Martha.
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Nick, this is Martha calling from the 404. Even though my phone starts with a 917 saying New York City, I love your podcast. I actually have to tell you that I started listening to it because of some collaboration that you did with paying Lindsay. I am a huge fan of both of you and I hope to soon also run into you the same way that I ran into pain in one of the places that I frequent the most. Airport. I have a bone to pick with you. I'm an example generation and I love writing a writer. And I cannot believe that you did not mention Reality Bites, the movie that made us all rethink our choices of going to college and get a degree. I have plenty of those, but keep it up. I love and thank you. You have taught me so much. I believe that one of your best episodes is the Hillsborough acc, which made me go back to the entire history of it. I love it. Thank you. Keep it up. Bye. Bye.
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Martha, thank you so much for the call. Yeah, I can't believe. Are you sure I didn't mention Reality Bites? I mean, I do kind of whiff sometimes, so, you know, it's possible. But that movie's incredible and it might be. It might be Winona's most. Definitely her most Gen X. God, if I didn't mention that, I'm sorry, You're right to call me out on that, Martha. And you mentioned rethinking the choices in college, and that's why I wanted to play that, because it goes directly to the caller. Previously you mentioned Payne, my good friend Payne, Lindsay Payne's TV show. I think wraps this week. If you don't know about this, he has a Fox television show. Or it's not his show, but he's part of the America's Most Wanted team now as it pertains to television. And it's been great to see Payne on tv. Killing it. Give him a search. You wanna check that out? Payne, of course, owns True crime. He's the guy if you're into true crime. And Payne and I collaborated back in the day on a series called Dead and Gone about missing Grateful Dead fans. And that concept came out of the research I did for the upcoming Grateful Dead episodes that we're about to rewind in your feed. It's all connected. 617-906-6638. You guys want to call? Leave me a message. The question of the week that we're posing about artists and their sort of secondary skill sets. Musicians who are great at one thing and then also great at another. 617-906-6638 voicemail and text 617 writes in simply being mutually passionate about the subject matter is what makes all of this worth it. Love the podcast and the interaction. 61 7, you got it. Thank you.
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57 0, I dig the link. Thank you. I'm gonna check that out. Questlove, Prince, Criterion Heather writes in from the 501 just wanted to say how surprised I am that no one mentioned John 5 or Joe Bonamassa for greatest guitar players and maybe even Buckethead. These guys are all virtuoso guitar players and should definitely be in the running. Yes they should. And people have mentioned Buckethead. I got some messages about Buckethead. I got an argument with a friend. Listener. Excuse me? Well, listener slash friend over Instagram on Buckethead. I just can't take a guy with a fucking bucket on his head. Seriously. I'm sorry. 412 writes in hey Jay. Currently live in Pittsburgh and had Pirate season tickets for many years. When I was married he got custody of those. We loved going to the games, but really it was more about the game itself, not the Pirates. With that said, here's a pic of the view from my apartment. That's PNC park where the Pirates play. What did I say about the Pirates? It's. It's kicked off all this sort of Pirates engagement from you guys. 412 sent in just a couple of beautiful photos taken from her apartment of PNC Park. Nice digs. I think I mentioned that I like the Pirates hat. I'm a bit Pirates curious I think I might have mentioned that I relate to Pittsburgh fans. I have a lot of respect for Pittsburgh fans. That's more directed at Steelers fans, I guess, given that they have the same amount of NFL championships that the New England Patriots have had a chance to go see Terry Bradshaw speak the other night, by the way, and I didn't go. I had no excuse. I was just tired. That's not cool. I regret it. I should have went. Got some book recommendations here from the 803. Historical fiction is a nice blend of genres and there are some great authors out there. Caleb Carr, Eric Larson and Dennis Lehane are my faves. I'm actually reading a Dennis Lehane book right now and I am just. It's staggering how great it is. It is incredible. Live by Night, it might be his ninth novel. I can't remember where it is in the succession of. In. In the. Yeah, succession.
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Yeah. Of his. Of the books that he's released. But I don't remember. I've read a bunch. I read mystic river, read Gone Baby Gone. I read Shutter Island. I've read more. I can't remember what they are. I've read a lot of Dennis Lehane books, but I haven't read one probably in about 10 years. And I'm shocked at how good this one is. I am constantly putting the book down and just shaking my head. The writing is incredible. I saw the movie. I liked the movie. The movie did not do well, but I don't remember much of it and I'm looking forward to watching it again after I finish the book. Nine zero seven writes in. Hey, Jake, you mentioned you like murder mysteries. I recommend author Ruth Ware. Her first book In a Dark Dark Wood was fantastic and I now read anything she writes. It's worth its time. Hope you like it. Lisa from the 907. Thank you, Lisa. Appreciate you. Do this final one here from the 641. Hey, Jake, love the show as always and it wouldn't be a comment for me if I didn't shout out how much I love your mentions and interview with Lok. Connie, you know,641, I blew it. Not only did I not go see Terry Bradshaw speak the couple nights ago, low cut Connie was playing a couple hours away and I did not make the trip and I just. I. I have no excuse. I was made aware of it and then a couple days later I just completely forgot. You know, I blame last week and my missed opportunities here on the fact that I was traveling the week before. So I was catching up on a lot and I was just happy to be home. I'm at that point in my life now where I get home from being away and I'm happy about being home. Used to be the opposite.
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Get me out of here. Not that way anymore. Anyways,641 goes on to say, but what I'm really here for this time is to suggest a band that I've been aware of for many years but have been re listening to a huge amount lately. The Replacements. I'm an Iowa gal, but listen to a lot of Minnesota Public Radio and therefore Minnesota music. Headed to St. Paul for a show this weekend. So Minnesota music in the Twin Cities, heavily on the brain and the mention of Prince again made me look back to see if you've done a Replacements episode and I can't find one. I would love one. Keep up the great work. 64 1. You are in luck because if you are jonesing for a Replacements episode from Disgraceand you can listen to one right now. All you gotta do is become an All Access Member. $5 a month you get that exclusive episode steez. Okay, once a month you're gonna get a new episode and then a year later that episode will populate in the public feed. And that is actually going to happen to the Replacements episode fairly soon. But if you're a Replacement head, I would say not soon enough. And you should fork over that five bucks and get in on this All Access action. You can hear that Replacements episode today. Just go to disgraceandpod.com membership 617-906-6638. You want to leave me a voicemail? You want to send me a text? That's how you do it. Hit me @gracelandpod on Instagram, on X and on Facebook. It is now time for our sports rant. This is a quick little 30 second just whatever I get on my mind sports wise. I think that's what kicked off this Pittsburgh Pirates conversation with you guys. But I got to say, how many others of you have a baseball that is nearly on the edge of extinction and it is not even June? That's where my Red Sox are right now. And I worry more about this than I do the Boston Celtics, who, depending on when you listen to this episode, maybe bounced out of the NBA playoffs. It is not looking good. It is not looking good for either team right now, nor is it looking good for our prospects next year with the Bruins. And I gotta say, there's a lot of hope. A lot of A lot of hope springs eternal around the Patriots right now. Mike Vrabel is responsible for that. But I don't know, man. I don't know. Feels like a different league. Gonna have to see. Are you guys, are you guys feeling confident about your sports teams right now? Are you, Are you? I'm not. And I don't like the feeling. I'll be back in a flash with your emails in the Hollywoodland minute. All right, we are back. And you know what time it is. It's time for the Hollywoodland minute. Brought to you by the Hollywoodland Podcast. Don't know what the Hollywoodland Podcast is? Well, the Hollywoodland podcast is hosted by yours truly, where every week I tell you a story from the annex of Hollywood and true crime. And right now there are over 40 episodes waiting for you to binge episodes on James Dean, Charlie Sheen, Danny Trejo, Marilyn Monroe, Sean Pence, Steve McQueen, Drew Barrymore, Jane Fonda, David Lynch. David Lynch. And most recently on a dude who. Well, let's just say I don't have a lot of love for Will Smith. Play the clip.
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March 27, 2022, the Dolby Theater, Los Angeles. Will Smith was ready. Ready for the applause, ready for the recognition. He was ready to feel the overwhelming sense of pride and the respect that came with being an Academy Award winning actor. Four months had passed since the release of King Richard, the biopic that starred Will Smith as Richard Williams, father to tennis icons Venus and Serena. The buzz around Will's portrayal of the Williams patriarch was indeed Oscar worthy. The real Venus and Serena weren't just advocates, they were damn near evangelists. Richard himself wasn't present during the film's promotional rollout, but he gave his blessing. The stars had a line here tonight. After decades of hip hop records and blockbuster action flicks and everything else in between, Will Smith was going to finally take home that coveted golden statuette. But first, he had to go through this.
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All right, we are back. Listen, we're climbing the vault here. We talked about in this episode Marvin Gaye. We mentioned Marvin Gaye. We mentioned the Replacements. Marvin Gaye is in the archive. Replacements is in the All Access archive if you want to check that out. We had a lot of talk here relative to Prince on which artists best spoke for their generation. Someone mentioned Elvis. There's a great Elvis Johnny Ace episode. It's not from 1956, which was the time period that the caller mentioned Elvis in. It's a little bit later. But hey, Elvis is Elvis. Check that out. And I would like to just add here there is a Ramones episode in our archive and for my money, the Ramones nailed their era just as well as anyone else has done in the history of pop music. So check out that Ramones episode, all of our archive 230 episodes, all available for you to listen to right now. Matt will have the show info for the episodes I just mentioned in the show notes for you to help you find things a little bit more easily. Okay, let's recap, shall we? Number one My other podcast, Hollywoodland, is alive and kicking over in the Hollywoodland feed. So make sure you're subscribed and following Hollywoodland on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. And check out the currently available Will Smith episode that we have for you. Get ready for our Jack Nicholson episode coming up next on Monday. Number two Right now in your Disgraceland feed, our episode on Prince Part two on Prince. Number three Coming tomorrow, our rewind episodes on the Grateful Dead four Merch winners. Get in touch. You know who you are. Number five Remember, no one cares about preserving the the true spirit of rock
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Well, that's a disgrace. All right, in honor of this week's subject, Prince, this is me reading you the Billboard charts from the day Prince released Sign of the Times on March 30, 1987. Number 1 Lean on Me Club Nouveau
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Last Week 1 Peak Position 1 Weeks
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on Chart 7 Number 2 Nothing's Gonna
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Stop Us Now Starship Last Week 3
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Peak Position 2 Weeks on Chart 9
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Number 3 let's Wait a While Janet Jackson Last Week 2 Peak Position 2
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Weeks on Chart 11 Number 4 Tonight
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Position 4 Weeks on Chart 7 Last Week Number 5 Mandolin Range Bruce Hornsby
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Date: May 15, 2025
Host: Jake Brennan (Double Elvis Productions)
This After Party bonus episode of DISGRACELAND bridges listeners between full episodes and delves into the cultural impact of Prince’s Sign o’ the Times, previews upcoming content, initiates listener participation, and—most notably—provides a candid, unsparing update on the high-profile Diddy trial. Jake Brennan brings his trademark irreverent, conversational style to topics that touch on music’s grittiest, most dramatic intersections with true crime and society.
[03:33–06:43]
"The politics of Sign o’ the Times…are not those of solutions but those of survival, in the face of which you might not survive for much longer. The politics of survival say that we may dance in the face of a coming apocalypse."
— Hanif Abdurraqib (quoted by Jake, 05:47)
[06:44–15:07]
"Cassie testified…for six hours. You can hear from the prosecutors questioning the building blocks for the racketeering case they’re trying to make." (07:50)
"These details are shocking… Even Prince would blush—perhaps Prince would even gag, maybe throw up in his mouth. The details are fucking disgusting. They are gnarly." (09:41)
"This is much, much different than sordid celebrity sexual conjecture on TikTok… Prosecutors think they have enough evidence… This is where things get real, guys." (08:46)
[15:50–16:10 | 28:28–29:51 | 43:13–44:40]
[19:26–28:28]
[29:51–32:44]
"Will Smith was ready… to feel the overwhelming sense of pride… but first, he had to go through this." (32:44)
[33:48–38:48]
"The look on Danny's face as Prince enters the ethereal zone and absolutely rips the fuck out of that solo… must be one of the greatest moments in the history of recorded live music." (36:28)
[44:40–45:46]
On Prince’s Social Commentary:
"After laying out a terrifying landscape, Prince pushes the landscape aside, lays out all of our options for survival, and tells us to take our pick."
(Jake quoting Hanif Abdurraqib, 06:15)
On the Diddy Trial:
"It's important to note that these details were discussed in a courtroom, ok? Under the penalty of perjury. This is much, much different than sordid celebrity sexual conjecture on TikTok. This is where things get real, guys."
(Jake, 08:46)
Listener Reflection on Music Capturing an Era:
"It was designed to distract from the fact that none of us were going to get the opportunities we thought we were going to have. You’re not going to have a house, you’re not going to have much money. You might as well have a good time."
(Mr. Taylor, 916, 21:13)
Candid Jake:
"Even Prince would blush, okay? Perhaps Prince would even gag, maybe throw up in his mouth. The details are fucking disgusting. They are gnarly."
(Jake, 09:41)
Next Week's Question:
"Which rock star was just as good at another art or sport as at music?"
(Jake, 14:56)
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Jake’s episode deftly transitions between in-depth topical discussion (Prince, Diddy trial), interactive community engagement, show business updates, candid personal asides, listener correspondence, and pop culture commentary—all while maintaining the edgy, passionate, and sometimes unfiltered tone that is the hallmark of DISGRACELAND.
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