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Jake Brennan
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Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life? Just a touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland. The after party Foreign welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show, the party after the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission, to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, we're talking about this week's full episode subject, Part two of our Temptation story in the Tammy Terrell saga. We're rewind back to our David Bowie episode previewing our upcoming story on Motorhead. And we get into your voicemails, texts, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end up telling to someone else. All right, discos, let's get into it. The small town I grew up in had a typical downtown with a lot of different shops. If you needed clothes, hardware, greeting cards, groceries, whatever, you could get it downtown in one of the shops on High street in Clinton, Massachusetts. This was before big box stores and malls, before malls were as prevalent, but definitely before big box stores. And if you didn't want to go to Big Boston or, God forbid, Worcester, you went, as we said, downtown to get what you needed. And if you needed something you couldn't buy in stores, you went to the bad end of High street, where Papacolas Market was located. It was a little Greek grocery where for some reason all the druggies hung out. About 50ft to the left of Paps, as Papacolus's was referred to, was City hall music. Now, this is where we went to get our records, or cassettes, to be more accurate and to get a little bit of our music history education. Now, much later in the year 2000, when the movie High Fidelity came out, the adaptation of Nick Hornby's excellent novel of the same name, starring John Cusack, about a couple of Chicago record store nerds whose musical tastes are unquestionable but whose ethics have something to be desired, I felt, as I'm sure a lot of the dudes who I grew up with felt like I knew those record store nerds that were in the movie because in a way I grew up with my own small town version. Not in a way I did. I grew up with my own small town version of the record Store Nerds in High Fidelity downtown at City Hall Music in Clinton, Mass. The dudes who worked there were older, stoned, and they didn't care much about selling records. They did care about talking shit and demonstrating their knowledge of music history and occasionally dunking on a heavy metal, curious fourth grader and inspiring him at the same time. Now that's the grade, fourth grade that I was in, I think. I think. Anyways, I think that's the grade I was in the first time I visited City hall, back right around the time when it opened. I was with my stepfather, who wasn't much older than the dudes who worked there and he was only a little less burnt out. That's not to say that he related to them in any way. He didn't. In fact, I can still remember the tension between Joe, my stepdad in the City hall guys. I was pretty sure then that our visit wasn't going to end with me getting the ACDC record that I wanted, but instead with Joe, with Joe putting one of those dudes in the hospital like he nearly did. That guy at the Jay Giles concert who popped my balloon with the lit end of his cigarette. But that's another story. There was no violence, just the threat of it made tangible by the weird mix of music snobbery and small town testosterone floating in the air. Why do you want Back in Black? The dude working there asked me, but what his tone really said was, what kind of asshole wants to buy that record? I'm not sure I gave the dude an answer, but I was then asked if I'd heard Highway to Hell and I had. Well, why didn't I want that record? I don't fucking know, man, Because I'm in the fourth grade and I just heard you shook me all night long and maybe I want to know about fast machines and keeping the motor clean. I didn't say any of that. I probably just looked at the dude with the stupid grin on my face while secretly praying that my stepdad didn't grab him by his T shirt collar, drag him over the counter and beat the dank smell of pot off of him. But the dude then asked me, and I remember this clearly, he asked me which AC DC singer I liked best. Which singer? The fuck was this dude talking about? Which singer? There was only one singer, the dude who looked like he worked construction with Joe, my stepdad. Wait a minute, There was another singer in AC DC before the Back In Black guy. I'll never forget how shocking this realization was to me, even at that young age. How had I not known? And hold up. The dude died. The first singer from ACDC died. Tell me more. And the record store dude obliged and told me about Von Scott and his premature death. And I'm certain he hinted at the whispers behind the mystery of Bond's death, because the whole story gripped me. I was in. Give me all the fucking rock and roll stories. Oh,'80s record store sage. The dude must have picked up on my sincere interest because now he was on the other side of the counter, personally escorting me to the ACDC section. I didn't want Back In Black, he told me. And sure, you know better than what I want. You're older. You have a leather jacket with cutoff sleeves that you wear over your denim jacket. That's two whole jackets. Well, almost. So you're absolutely the authority here. I was informed that I didn't want highway to Hell either. I wanted Let There Be Rock. And hot damn, did I ever want Let There Be Rock. Of course I want Let There Be Rock, dude. Whatever you say. Give it to me. At that moment, I'm convinced my stepdad was even closer to wrecking my new stoned Obi Wan Kenobi record store dude even more than he was before now, out of spite or jealousy or whatever, because I'm sure my stepdad thought that he was bringing me to the record store to bond with me. And here I am bonding with this burnout and not him. And what kind of influence was this burnout going to have on me? An inordinate amount of influence is the answer. An AC DC sized riff amount of influence. Nearly all the fucking influence. I basically lived at City Hall Music after that, and so did a handful of my friends. It's where I first heard the new record by that guy who, quote unquote, ripped off Jim Morrison. And that would be the Cult's Ian Attsbury on the Cult's debut album, Love. It's where I caught my first glimpse of Metallica without Cliff Burton, when the Garage Days EP promo poster went up on the wall at City hall before the record was even in stock. I'm pretty sure it's where I bought Bret Easton Ellis's Less Than Zero book, or at least where I borrowed it off of someone. And it's where I most definitely bought the soundtrack for Less Than Zero. Slayer and LL Cool J on one album, of course. Give it to me right now. City hall music is literally where I saw my first compact disc. But more important than all of that, City hall music is where I caught a whiff of my first rock and roll myth, the death of ACDC singer Bon Scott and the whispers of what really happened. I never figured out if Bond died the way they officially said he did, in the backseat of a Renault 5, choked to death on his puke after a night of partying with the dudes from ufo, or if it was something more nefarious. Drug dealers? Contract killers. Frankly, I'm still trying to figure out this story decades later. I'm nearly done writing our second ACDC episode, and I'm no closer to a determination on Bond's death than I was before I even started this podcast. But I'm heavily leaning toward the official cause of death on this one, despite the suspicions that have been raised. That said, after two rounds of research on the band, I still haven't done enough research around Bond's death. So maybe a third episode? I don't know. What I do know is that suspicious rockstar deaths fascinate me. That was one of the questions we asked last week in light of the Tammy Tyrell story that we told in this week's Temptations Part 2 episode. Which musician's death is most suspicious to you? The details and theories around these suspicious deaths are often too controversial to talk about here in the wide feed, and I'm going to use today's exclusive bonus After Party section to dig a little bit deeper into some of these cases. The super sketchy official narrative around the death of Elliot Smith, and the mystery surrounding the murder of Al Jackson Jr. Drummer for Booker T. And the MG guy who played on all Otis Redding's hits, basically, and a bunch of other incredible music. And maybe I'll even hit on a couple other mysterious deaths. Big stars Chris Bell comes to mind. Rock and roll pioneer Bobby Fuller. I want to figure out which of these will make for great Disgraceland episodes, or if in fact they're just too wild and crazy to even get into in the wide feed. Some stories are too strange, too sensitive, too unresolved for a big public forum, like the wide version of this podcast. But they still matter. And like I said, a couple of them are gonna be waiting for you in today's exclusive bonus section of this afterparty. Go to disgraceandpod.com membership to become an All Access member today and get this type of extra content for just five bucks a month, less if you sign up for a year. And pro tip okay, don't sleep on this. A little birdie at Double Elvis told me that that $5 a month price, it might be going up shortly when new subscription offerings are announced. But for those who are already in at five bucks, you will be grandfathered in at that price forever. So if you've been on the fence about becoming an All Access member, now's the time to sign up. Saving money aside, you're gonna get those Elliott Smith and Al Jackson mysterious death facts in today's bonus section coming up shortly. Again, that's Disgracelandpod.com membership to unlock more and ad free listening. I'll be back in a flash with your voicemails, texts and your answers to last week's question of the week. 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All right, we are back and if you don't know what's up, here's what's happening in Disgraceland this week. We just released our new episode on the Temptations. That's part two, which is really a Tammy Terrell story. Coming up next in your feed right after this after party episode, we're rewinding to our David Bowie episode where if you listen closely, you'll hear me lose my mind in the E block. And next week we are hitting all you hell bent for leather rocka rollers with our Motorhead episode. Okay, but right now you know where I'm at. I'm in the phone booth, it's the one across the hall and I'm hanging on the telephone getting answers to our most pressing questions from music history, like which musician died most mysteriously, most suspiciously. What do you guys think? Who do you want to talk about? Let's hear from ricardo in the 5 10.
Ricardo
Hey Jake, my name is Ricardo. I love your show. Thanks for everything. I've always thought that Donny Hathaway's death was really suspicious. He was considered the other genius at Atlantic Records other than Aretha. And he had a history of mental health issues and, and then also going on and off his his meds. I think lithium was one of them. And yeah, he fell out of the 7 3rd floor of the Hotel Essex in New York. And yeah, there's just Something doesn't fit well with me about that. He was a definitely a musical genius who found peace in his music. And he's like my favorite singer and he died too young. So love to hear more about that. Take care. Thanks.
Jake Brennan
Yes, Ricardo, you are right. Donny Hathaway, absolute genius. Some mystery around his death, but just such a tragedy, man. Just a. It's a sad story and a huge talent. And we do have an episode on Donny Hathaway. It's back in the archive. You can check that out. Appreciate your call, Ricardo. Hope you're doing okay, man. You sound like you're still grieving the death of Donny Hathaway. Give us a call back anytime. 617-906-6638. That goes for all y'. All. You want to be part of the show. 617-906-6638. You can chime in on our question of the week. Next week's question of the week as we get into the Motorhead episode is a little bit different. Motorhead was one of the first real concerts I saw. Not the first, I saw a handful before, but Motorhead was one of the first concerts where I felt truly in danger, even though I was with my dad as Motorhead and Slayer in 1986, I believe, at the Orpheum in Boston. And I want to know from you guys, question of the week is going to be what was the first concert you attended? That's it. The first one that had. It doesn't have to be that. The very first. It just has to be the first one that had a real impact on you. I mentioned the Jay Giles concert I was at earlier when my stepdad nearly, nearly beat down the dude who popped my balloon. That was Jay Giles and ZZ Top, I think. And I think I was probably about 5 years old. Westboro Speedway, perhaps. I don't remember it. I don't remember it at all. But I remember that Motorhead concert very clearly. So question of the week for next week. What was your first concert that had a huge impact on you? 617-906-6638. In light of our Motorhead story, hit us up, call us, leave us a voicemail like Ricardo, or send us a text. Let's check out this voicemail here from the 6, 7, 8.
Ricardo
Hey, Jake, this is Adrienne, as in Rocky. Call in from the 678. I actually just calling to leave you kind of like a recommendation. One of my favorite bands, all time favorite bands, which I think you might already be familiar with. But if not, they're from Massachusetts and they're around in the 90s. And they are, to me, like, top favorite. One of my favorite, top favorite bands. And to me, again, they're like the epitome of punk rock, and they are the kings of nothing. So if you're not familiar with them, check them out. I don't think you'd be disappointed. All right, later.
Jake Brennan
Adrian, I am resisting doing my Sylvester Stallone impersonation. I'm not gonna do that for you. Okay. Ruins my voice. I love the recommendations. Thank you very much. Always come at me with whatever you got. And you're gonna be very surprised to hear what I'm about to tell you right now. Adrian. Not only have I heard of Kings of Nothing, I was in Kings of Nothing, okay? I was literally in. In the band. Here's the story. Prior to being called Kings of Nothing, they were the Boston Blackouts. Tor, Liam Necro, myself, Justin, who I christened justice, which he didn't like, and a couple others I don't even remember. It was a huge fucking band. Anyways. I sang in that band and played guitar. We did two gigs, two shows. They were epic. Guy got knifed and thrown out the window of the causeway for the first show we played. The second show we played was Downstairs at the Middle East, I believe, with the shots. Great, great Boston punk band, Lowell. Punk band, I should say, to be more accurate. And I quit after those two shows. It was way, way too intense. That's not why I quit. I quit. Cause I. I wanted to go back to school. And I wanted to focus more on that and less on punk rock and rock and roll. And when I quit, Tor moved from upright bass to being the frontman. And they went on to have a real career. Prior to that, again, we were called the Boston Blackouts. And then they changed the name. And, yeah, that's what happened. We never recorded, but we did do those two gigs, and they were. They were insane. I think there was fire involved. I'm not even joking. And again, guy got stabbed and thrown out the Window Causeway. Chet's Last call. That's what it was called prior to that. So there you go, Adrian. Great call. I often forget about that band, and I shouldn't, because it was a real moment in my life. It was wild. I have tons of wild stories, as I'm sure you do as well. All right, let's move on here. Let's go do some texts from the 919 texts in. I listened to your pod on the stagnant culture. This Is last week we talked about how culture has sort of stopped resetting every 10 years like it used to do. And I'm not going to go into the whole thing again, but if you want to listen to it, it's there for you in the last after party. And the text you hear919 says, Hey, I listened to your pod on the stagnant culture, and I thought I was just old and out of touch with the culture until I moved my son out of his freshman college dorm a year ago. We are taking down Alice in Chains and south park posters when I realized my son was having the exact same college experience I did. I attended college from 1992 to 1997 when the last relevant culture shift was happening. My daughter and I love to find good new music and have been saved by bands like Mount Joy, Backseat Lovers, and Big Something. The first time I saw Backseat Lovers live, I said, this is their generation's Kurt Cobain. And the difference is that these great bands play in front of 2000 people and seem to make enough money from streaming to stay together. I like that I can watch these bands in small venues, but they won't be changing culture until music and media corporations deem it profitable to back them. And919, you're spot on. I would add that it's kind of. Yeah, I don't know if it's that they're. I mean, part of it is they're not getting the big mainstream push that certainly Nirvana got back in the day. But again, for all the reasons I said last week, culture and media are just so different nowadays than they were back then. And, yeah, there's a corporate stranglehold that just. It deincentivizes artists to create the way that artists in the past were incentivized to create. That's part of it. There's a lot of stuff going on. But I wanted to read that text and I believe this mess. This guy emailed us as well. I wanted to read this because. 91 9, I just. You really perfectly summed up the whole issue here. You're taking down posters from your. Your son's dorm, and they're the same posters you had in your dorm on the same artists, same TV shows. It's wild. Just wild. All right, let's check out same subject. This one from the 724 who writes in. Hey, I got to disagree with you, Jake. I think Swift, that be Taylor Swift, is changing the culture. You see the way young women are coming up and being social media managers for sports teams and Pulling the teen girl longing. I think Taylor speaks to that. She's certainly changing the industry with her wrestling control from the labels and doing what they can to limit that control. I don't think there's another person who is. But I do think Taylor is having a cultural influence, even if the culture is her harking back to the 90s when she grew up. Just in my opinion. Well, you know, I don't entirely agree with you here and I gotta say I'm kind of wrestling with this, this, this text and not knowing what to do with it. Like on the one hand, I like that I'm being challenged and I want to acknowledge that. I don't want to pretend to you guys that this is just a big chorus of approval here where I say something and you guys just power it back. What I say. Oftentimes people disagree or have different takes and I like that. I encourage that. I think that's great. I want to think through these things critically with you, but at the same time I don't want to sit here and be arguing into the void when this person doesn't have a forum right now to defend their argument. But I'll just say I don't think Taylor Swift is changing the culture. She's certainly influential when it comes to the business side of it and record sales. I don't see a lot of people beyond her, her sort of immediate demographic of, of young women behaving any differently because of Taylor Swift. And as far as, as far as her getting her, her songs back from the labels and, and ownership, that's, that's not anything new. And it really only happens to major artists, huge artists like this. Bruce Springsteen went through something very similar once he became super successful. But it's not like in Taylor's resting back control of her music that it has created a sort of watershed moment for, for other artists to do so. It hasn't. She's able to do it because she is a, she's an anomaly. She's an aberration. She's. She's bigger than anyone else. That said, I, you know, you know, hit me back here. 7, 724. I do take a lot of what you're saying here. I do think she is influential on women coming up like you say. But I don't entirely agree with your point any y' all want to argue with me or just talk about whatever you want to talk about. 617-906-6638 Voicemail and text. And of course you can, you can always DM me I might hit you back on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, Disgracelandpod. You can email me disgracelandpodgmail.com Surefire way to get my attention and get a response immediately. Hit me up on Patreon in the chat. Don't direct message me on Patreon. Their messaging app sucks and takes forever to load and I seldom use it. So if you have messaged me there and I haven't responded, that's why. But just publicly call me out in the chat and ask me whatever you want and I'll get in there with you. We'll chop it up. All right? Gonna chop it up with you on the other side of this break right now. Back in a flash.
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All right my peoples, we are back. Listen, Disgraceland isn't the only place we play every week, okay? We also play over in Hollywoodland. Tons of episodes from the Annex of Hollywood in True Crime on your favorite actresses and actors and directors and in addition to the fully scripted episodes that we're releasing over there that are going to feel and sound a Lot like Disgraceland episodes, just with slightly different subject matter. We also do these wrap party bonus episodes, but it's not just me on the mic like it is here in the afterparty. It's me and Zeth Lundy, and people are loving it. We're getting a lot of great feedback. The show is growing every week. Zeth is really crushing it over there. Seth is more of a movie head than I am. He knows more about movie history than I do. I think he was a film school nerd. I could be wrong about that. There's a lot of mystery in Seth's background. I don't ask. You know, things get said and I just kind of go, okay, you know, there's some weird run in with John Mayer from his past. You know, you can ask him. I'm not gonna. I'm dead. It's not for me. Anyhow, Matt, let's give the people a little. A little taste of the wrap party. Show those who have not yet subscribed to Hollywoodland what they're missing in addition to the full episodes. Like I said, you get these wrap party episodes. And then, guys, after you listen to this clip, I want you to go to Hollywoodland and Apple podcasts or Spotify or Iheart or the Iheart app or wherever you get your podcasts. And I want you to subscribe to Hollywoodland. All right, Matt, give him that clip.
Adrienne
Seth Lundy here with Jake Brennan coming at you with the part of the show we call for your consideration. This is where Jake and I give you music and movie recommendations. But the twist is that they are recommendations inspired by the subject from our full episode of Hollywoodland this week. So, look, I could easily recommend three great Harrison Ford movies right off the top of my head, but, like, what's the point? Because you've all seen them. You're just gonna nod your heads and be like, yep, that's great. That's great. What I want to recommend and what I want to talk about are three great movies that Harrison Ford turned down. Three great roles that movies he was not in. And Jake, I want to litigate with you right here in real time whether or not those movies would have been better with Harrison Ford in them.
Jake Brennan
Okay, Love this.
Adrienne
All right, so number one, JFK, 1991, directed by Oliver Stone. So Harrison Ford was up for the role of Jim Garrison, which of course went to Kevin Costner. What do you think about this movie with Harrison Ford as Jim Garrison?
Jake Brennan
I can't stop thinking of Harrison Ford in Kevin bacon's role as JFK you a fine looking piece of meat, Mr. Garrison. Yeah. Damn, I love Kevin Costner in this role. Yeah, it's a defining role for Kevin Costner.
Adrienne
Agreed.
Jake Brennan
I think it's his best role, actually. I think it's better than Field of Dreams, better than the Untouchables. But Harrison Ford, wow, he would have. He would have brought a kind of like, like a meanness to it almost, you know, like, like a pissiness. Yeah, yeah.
Adrienne
He would have been much more cynical. I think what works for Kevin Costner is that there's something so like green and aw, shucks about him. Yeah, you know what I mean? That I think really works as his character is sort of plunged into this world of conspiracies and stuff. And yeah, it would have just would have been different with Harrison Ford.
Jake Brennan
I think Harrison Ford would have been too cynical and it wouldn't have. It wouldn't have scanned right and it probably wouldn't have had the impact it had. So for that, even though I may have enjoyed Harrison Ford in it more than Kevin Costner, I think the role in the movie is better with Costner.
Adrienne
Yep, agreed.
Jake Brennan
That's Hollywoodland. You heard it here. You know, you know the drill. Go to Hollywoodland on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast and subscribe so you do not miss any of that hot Hollywood and true crime action that Zeth Lundy and myself are giving to you every week. All right, that's Hollywoodland. On whatever podcast app you use, make sure you are subscribed. Alrighty then. It's time. Now you know what time it is. It's time for the 60 second sports rant in under 30 seconds brought to you again by our friends at 5 Hour Energy in their new confetti craze. Flavor tastes just like birthday cake with a vanilla and buttery flavor to let you be unapologetically extra and unstoppably energized. Head to your local retailer www.fivehourenergy.com or amaz to order yours today. Listen, speaking of today, Matt, give me the buzzer. Go ahead. The NFL season is upon us. It's coming. The season opens on September 4th with the super bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles hosting the Dallas Cowboys. Those of you who don't know Cowboys are my other team. Okay, I'm a Pats fan. Always been a Cowboys fan as well, but Pats fan first. Anyways, it doesn't matter. This also means with the start of the NFL season that in the next few weeks I'll have two fantasy football drafts that I'll have to prepare for. And I have to say, I'm not happy about it. Who else plays fantasy football like I do? Strictly out of social fomo. Okay, who else plays out of fomo? I don't like fantasy football. I love it, but I also hate it. I don't like playing it until I do. I don't like talking about it unless I'm on a tear that week. And I don't like thinking about it. Yet here I am thinking about it and talking to you guys about it. Understand this. I'm a dude who doesn't even like looking at his phone. If it weren't for me making my living in digital media, I would be totally off the grid. But. But, dude, what pick am I going to get in my Snake draft? All right? Fantasy football will eat you alive is what I'm saying. If you're naturally competitive like I am, it'll ruin your fall and your early winter. And I can't let my sisters beat me. And in my other league, I can't let my father in law think I'm an asshat. Homer who, yeah, maybe once drafted a Patriots kicker in the third round. I can't lose, man, that's what I'm saying. Yet I couldn't give a shit either. That's the other part of this. I like the games as they were meant to be played. I don't like watching for fantasy points on Sunday. I like defense over offense. I like pounding ground games in illegal hits that were legal in every decade except for this one. But still, I play fantasy football because I'm a sucker, man. Any other suckers out there? Who else feels like fantasy football is a blessing and a curse? I don't know. But I do know I'll be playing this fall for what will be my 13th season in one league and fourth or fifth in the other. I can't even keep track. I started that other league. I don't even want to be in it. But I can't not be in it. I want to be in it. I don't want to miss anything. Okay? What the hell is wrong with me, Matt? How'd I do?
Adrienne
Well, Jake, I gotta say, you didn't make it in under 30 seconds, but.
Jake Brennan
I really think we should put that aside.
Adrienne
This week's rant really seemed like a cry for help and I think we should, you know, put our focus on getting you the help that you need.
Jake Brennan
So maybe we can, you know, sit down with a couple five hour energies and talk about that after the show. Okay, buddy. I knew I went too long. I knew it. I knew it. I couldn't help myself. I'll try harder next week. All right, that was the sports rant sponsored by Five Hour Energy's new confetti craze flavor. Unleash your party vibes with as much caffeine as your favorite 12 ounce fancy coffee, but with zero sugar and zero crash. Available in stores on Amazon or at www.fivehourenergy.com. so speaking of the football, last year we did a banger episode on the super suspicious death of NFL owner Carol Rosenblum. But this week we're talking about the suspicious deaths of rock stars in the bonus section of the after party. As I mentioned earlier, I'm dipping into Elliot Smith and Al Jackson Jr. Two musicians whose deaths are steeped in mystery and conflicting narratives. These are stories I wanted to tell for years, guys, but they've always felt too sketchy, too unresolved, too controversial to fully dive into in the main feed. But here's the thing. We don't need to wait for Chasm or whoever the fuck else to give us the studio algorithm approved lame ass versions of these stories. We can start digging in now. Because you're as interested in this stuff as I am. You're as interested in separating the noise from the truth as I am. You're obsessed. Like me. And so this bonus section is for you. It's not a full deep dive. We're dipping our toes into these stories for now. Maybe more later. Probably more later. I don't know. I haven't figured it out. But right now you can get some of this hot Elliott Smith weirdness, some of this Al Jackson Jr. Conspiracy or curiosity, I should say. Go to Disgracelandpod.com membership to become an all Access member and unlock this bonus episode. Plus ad free episodes, extra full episodes, and a direct line to this mission that we are all on. All for just five bucks a month. Less if you sign up for the year. And like I said, that price, guys, like I said, it's going up soon. But if you join now, you're locked in for life at just five bucks a month. We reward the early diggers, the early discos. All right, all right, we are back. Thanks for joining me on another wild ride here in the after party. Mentioned a ton of artists in this episode. Donny Hathaway, Taylor Swift, Metallica even. Not an artist. But we mentioned that NFL story. We have episodes on all of these stories and Matt is going to provide the episode notes in the show notes section of the afterparty for you to easily find these stories in our massive archive of over 235 episodes. Full episodes. I don't even know how many we have anymore. How's that for crazy? We may have had some weird milestone. We passed and I'm not even aware. We just keep making shit for you guys. So let's recap. All right, number one, this week's full episode, the Temptations Part two. That's available for you right now. Number two, coming up next is our rewind episode on David Bowie and My Freak out in a Moon Age Daydream. Oh yeah. Number three, up next week, our episode on Motorhead. Number number four, out in Hollywoodland right now is our story on Harrison Ford. Number 561-790-66638. Voicemail and text. Get at me. You can DM me @gracelandpod on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook and x disgracelandpodgmail.com to email me. Your voice helps uncover what got buried. Your takes propel me into the dark corners of music history. So keep em coming. Dig baby, dig now that the night is over. As the man once said. Number six do not forget discos. This isn't just content, it's a community. A community of the obsessed. No one cares about music, books, records and the crime and grime that ties them all together like you do. And well, that's a disgrace. All right. Tammy Terrell, featured in this week's Part 2 episode on the Temptations, died on March 16, 1970. Here's what America was listening to that week according to the billboard charts. Number 1 Bridge Over Troubled Water Simon & Garfunkel Last Week 1 Peak Position 1 Weeks on Chart 62 Traveling Band who'll Stop the Rain? Credence Clearwater Revival Last Week 2 Peak Position 2 Weeks on Chart 7 Number 3 the Rapper the Jaggers Last Week 7 Peak Position 3 Weeks on Chart 7 Number 4 Rainy Night in Georgia Rubbernecking Brookbench Last Year Week 4 Peak Position 4 Weeks on Chart 10 Number 5 Quit Talking and start mixing.
DISGRACELAND - Bonus Episode: Suspicious Deaths, Small-Town Myths, and the Record Store That Helped Make Me
Release Date: August 14, 2025
In this bonus episode of DISGRACELAND, host Jake Brennan invites listeners to the "After Party," an exclusive segment designed to delve deeper into the intriguing stories featured in the main episodes. This space serves as a bridge between full episodes, offering additional insights and behind-the-scenes discussions for the musically obsessed and curious minds eager to uncover the untold narratives of legendary musicians.
“This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party.”
— Jake Brennan [02:31]
Jake shares a nostalgic and personal story about his formative years in Clinton, Massachusetts, where the local record store, City Hall Music, played a pivotal role in his burgeoning love for music. He recounts his early encounters with music aficionados and the legendary tales that fueled his passion for rock and roll.
“City hall music is literally where I saw my first compact disc. But more important than all of that, City hall music is where I caught a whiff of my first rock and roll myth, the death of ACDC singer Bon Scott and the whispers of what really happened.”
— Jake Brennan [05:15]
At City Hall Music, Jake interacted with knowledgeable yet abrasive record store employees who not only sold music but also shared captivating stories about the artists. His quest for an AC/DC record led to an unexpected discovery about Bon Scott's mysterious death, sparking a lifelong fascination with the dark and enigmatic aspects of music history.
“I didn't know if Bond died the way they officially said he did... or if it was something more nefarious. Frankly, I'm still trying to figure out this story decades later.”
— Jake Brennan [10:45]
Transitioning from personal anecdotes, Jake delves into the broader theme of suspicious deaths among musicians, a recurring subject in DISGRACELAND. He highlights his ongoing research into the untimely and often enigmatic deaths of various artists, expressing a deep-seated curiosity about the truths that lie beneath the surface narratives.
“Suspicious rockstar deaths fascinate me. That was one of the questions we asked last week in light of the Tammy Tyrell story...”
— Jake Brennan [13:20]
Jake mentions specific cases such as Elliott Smith and Al Jackson Jr., acknowledging the complexities and controversies that surround their untimely departures from the music world. He emphasizes the importance of exploring these stories beyond mainstream media portrayals, seeking to uncover the nuanced and often hidden aspects of these legends' lives.
“These are stories I wanted to tell for years, guys, but they've always felt too sketchy, too unresolved, too controversial to fully dive into in the main feed.”
— Jake Brennan [25:10]
Engaging with his audience, Jake reads and responds to listener voicemails and texts, fostering a sense of community and shared passion among DISGRACELAND fans. He addresses topics ranging from personal experiences with music and culture to debates about an artist’s influence on society.
Listener Ricardo shares his thoughts on Donny Hathaway's suspicious death, sparking a heartfelt response from Jake.
"Donny Hathaway, absolute genius. Some mystery around his death, but just such a tragedy, man. Just a. It's a sad story and a huge talent."
— Jake Brennan [17:43]
Another listener, Adrienne, recommends the punk band Kings of Nothing, leading Jake to reveal his own brief stint in the band, adding a personal touch to the interaction.
“I was in Kings of Nothing... We did two gigs, two shows. They were epic.”
— Jake Brennan [20:17]
These interactions not only provide diverse perspectives but also enrich the narrative by incorporating real-life connections and experiences from the audience.
Jake wraps up the episode by encouraging listeners to become Disgraceland All Access members to access exclusive bonus content, including deeper dives into the mysterious deaths of musicians like Elliott Smith and Al Jackson Jr. He teases upcoming episodes, such as a rewind to the David Bowie story and an exploration of Motorhead, highlighting the continuous stream of engaging content available to dedicated fans.
“Go to Disgracelandpod.com membership to become an all Access member and unlock this bonus episode... unlocking bonus content for just five bucks a month.”
— Jake Brennan [35:00]
Jake emphasizes the importance of community and shared obsession, inviting listeners to contribute their own stories and theories to further enrich the DISGRACELAND narrative.
“Your voice helps uncover what got buried. Your takes propel me into the dark corners of music history. So keep em coming. Dig baby, dig.”
— Jake Brennan [40:50]
Key Takeaways:
Personal Narratives: Jake Brennan's early experiences at City Hall Music in Clinton, MA, significantly influenced his passion for music history and uncovering the hidden stories of musicians.
Mysterious Deaths: The episode delves into the enigmatic deaths of musicians like Bon Scott, Elliott Smith, and Al Jackson Jr., reflecting Jake's ongoing quest to uncover the truths behind these tragedies.
Community Engagement: Listener voicemails and texts play a crucial role in shaping the narrative, providing diverse perspectives and fostering a sense of community among DISGRACELAND fans.
Exclusive Content: Disgraceland All Access membership offers listeners deeper insights and bonus episodes, enhancing the overall experience for dedicated fans.
This bonus episode of DISGRACELAND offers a captivating blend of personal anecdotes, deep dives into unresolved mysteries, and interactive listener engagement, making it a must-listen for anyone passionate about the untold stories of music legends.