Bonus Episode: The Culture Changed Every Ten Years… Until It Didn’t

Summary

DISGRACELAND: Bonus Episode Summary Episode Title: Bonus Episode: The Culture Changed Every Ten Years… Until It Didn’t
Release Date: August 7, 2025
Host: Double Elvis Productions

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Introduction to the Bonus Episode

In this special bonus episode of DISGRACELAND, the host delves into a thought-provoking examination of cultural evolution over the past several decades. Titled "The Culture Changed Every Ten Years… Until It Didn’t," the episode explores why the once vibrant and distinct cultural shifts that defined each decade have seemingly stagnated in recent years.

Main Discussion: Decade-Based Cultural Shifts

The host begins by reflecting on personal experiences spanning from the 1980s to the 1990s, highlighting the stark contrasts between these decades. He emphasizes how each decade brought about significant changes in fashion, music, literature, and overall cultural norms. For instance, he contrasts the vibrant energy and distinctive styles of the '80s with the grunge and alternative movements of the '90s.

[02:30] Host: "The art we consumed... changed how we looked, how we talked, how we thought."

The Role of the Internet and Corporatization

A central theme of the discussion is the impact of the Internet and corporatization on cultural dynamics. The host argues that the Internet has fragmented the once unified cultural landscape into niche communities, fostering both positive and negative outcomes. While this fragmentation allows for diverse and specialized interests to flourish, it also leads to a lack of overarching cultural momentum.

[07:45] Host: "The Internet killed the monoculture... but the downside is a vast sameness on a big mainstream cultural level."

Further, he critiques the corporatization of the entertainment industry, noting that increased efficiency and consolidation have resulted in fewer opportunities for artists to experiment and take creative risks. This corporatization, according to the host, stifles innovation and leads to cultural mediocrity.

[11:20] Host: "Corporatization has gutted the power of great culture-defining film and television and just narrative in general."

Impact on Art and Storytelling

The host laments the decline in transformative art and storytelling, drawing comparisons to iconic figures like The Beatles, David Bowie, and Nirvana, who each left an indelible mark on culture through their bold and innovative approaches. He contrasts this with contemporary artists who, under corporate pressure, often replicate existing successful formulas rather than pushing creative boundaries.

[15:10] Host: "The Beatles didn't ask permission to make a day in the life... When's the last time we saw anything like that?"

He highlights the importance of storytelling in maintaining cultural vibrancy, suggesting that the current subscription-based consumption model encourages artists to produce repetitive content to satisfy returning subscribers rather than exploring new and risky creative endeavors.

Listener Interactions and Comments

The episode features engaging interactions with listeners, including voicemails and text messages that reflect diverse perspectives on the topic. Notably, a listener named Ratchet advocates for Public Enemy as the most influential hip hop group of all time, emphasizing their role in shaping consciousness and cultural awareness.

[18:11] Ratchet: "Public Enemy changed the entire consciousness of a generation of young white hip hop kids like myself."

The host acknowledges and builds upon these listener insights, fostering a sense of community and collective reflection on the state of contemporary culture.

Future Directions and Solutions

Looking ahead, the host promises to explore potential solutions to the cultural stagnation issue. He hints at uncovering strategies to reclaim and rejuvenate cultural storytelling, ensuring that future generations experience the dynamic and transformative cultural shifts reminiscent of past decades.

[22:00] Host: "There's a solution, and I'm gonna get to that later in the bonus section of this episode. And I'm gonna bring receipts, okay? I'm gonna bring numbers, I'm gonna bring proof."

Conclusion and Next Steps

In conclusion, the bonus episode serves as a critical analysis of the current cultural landscape, questioning why the vibrant cultural evolutions of previous decades have plateaued. By examining the roles of the Internet and corporatization, the host underscores the need for a reinvigoration of creative risks and storytelling to foster meaningful cultural progress.

Listeners are encouraged to join the Disgraceland All Access membership for exclusive content and to participate in ongoing discussions about buried stories and neglected aspects of music history.

[30:00] Host: "We don't need the corporations to tell our stories. We can do it ourselves."

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Key Takeaways

• Cultural Shifts: Each decade historically brought significant cultural changes, but recent years have seen a stagnation in this trend.

• Internet's Dual Role: While the Internet facilitates niche communities and diverse interests, it also contributes to a lack of unified cultural momentum.

• Corporatization's Impact: Increased efficiency and consolidation in the entertainment industry have reduced opportunities for artistic innovation and risk-taking.

• Importance of Storytelling: Effective storytelling is crucial for maintaining cultural vibrancy and should be encouraged to explore new and transformative narratives.

• Community Engagement: Listener interactions highlight the ongoing relevance and impact of influential artists like Public Enemy in shaping cultural consciousness.

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For those intrigued by this exploration of cultural evolution and eager to dive deeper, subscribing to Disgraceland All Access offers a wealth of additional insights and exclusive content. Visit www.disgracelandpod.com/membership to join the community today.

Transcript

[Jake Brennan]

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We're rewinding back to our Britney Spears episodes, previewing our upcoming episode on the Temptations and the Suspicious Death of Tammy Terrell. And we get into your voicemails, text DMs, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told. The kind you'll end up telling to someone else. All right, discos, let's get into it. So I went to grade school in the 1980s. My high school career started in the late 80s and ended in the early 90s. I went to college in the 90s as well. So I'm kind of. I'm both an 80s and a 90s kid. These are two different things. Anyone who grew up when I did, anyone who is Gen X knows this. The 80s were vastly different from the 90s. We went from Simple Minds to, oh well, whatever, nevermind, from dayglo to flannel, from clever raps by sitcom dads to drive by shootings, from Pretty in Pink to Pulp Fiction, from Bill Cosby to Jerry Seinfeld, from Less Than Zero to High Fidelity. And I'm just talking about the books there, not the movies. Less Than Zero book to the High Fidelity book. Now, the fashion, the music, the films, the books, the television that drove culture, defined culture, literally changed how we looked, how we talked, how we thought. Think about what the 80s looked like and sounded like compared to what things looked and sounded like in the 90s. It was an entirely different world. And you can run the same experiment with the 50s and the 60s, from Rockabilly Rebel James Dean vibes to the Summer of love in just 10 short years. It's a wild, wild difference, wild jump in culture. And then you can do the same thing, from the hippie dippy boomers to the punk nihilists and disco hedonists. You know, if you go from the 60s to the 70s and then from the 70s to the 80s, you've got, you know, Miami Vice, neon and Gordon Gekko, greed and Michael Jackson and Madonna. And then, like I said, the 90s were nothing like the 80s. So you see where I'm coming from here, what I'm getting at? From the 1950s to the 1990s, each decade was wildly different than the last in culture. I grew up in a time like most of you did, when there was a cultural reset every decade. The art we consumed, it caused us, like I said earlier, to look at things differently, to think differently, to act differently. And then, for some reason, all that stopped 10 years after Nirvana debuted on 120 minutes, an event that me and my friends watched live, breathless, like it was our own moon landing. Just 10 years after that, we got Outkast. We got P Nk, we got Britney Spears. The rise of commercial hip hop. So different. Yes, but then what? What did we get in the next decade? What's so different about 2011 from 2001? Not much. Especially when you compare it to the difference between 1991 and 1981. And here in 2025, it doesn't feel all that much different from 2015. So what happened? Why do we have seismic cultural shifts every 10 years for half a century? And now we don't. The obvious answer is the Internet. But that's only part of it. Assure. The Internet killed the monoculture, okay? We all consume our content in these little neat and tidy niche communities like this one. And in many ways, that's great. It's how Music and true crime podcast, which is its own niche. It's why we can exist and thrive. But the downside of this niche, ification, if you will, is a vast sameness on a big mainstream cultural level. We've got this sort of cultural mediocrity. There's a lack of risk that you can feel with our artists, and it has resulted in this lack of change from decade to decade. The real villain here, it's not the artists. It's not even the Internet. It's corporatization. Okay? After the year 2000, American business hit a new level of maturity, especially in the entertainment world, the entertainment business. Capitalism became more efficient, and with that efficiency came consolidation. Fewer record labels, fewer movie studios, fewer gatekeepers with tastes, and more gatekeepers with spreadsheets. And that means fewer opportunities for artists. And even when artists break through, when they break these gates down, they're pressured to keep delivering what works and to not take creative risks. What happens when artists stop taking risks? The art suffers. Culture suffers. We suffer. Suffer. This is, in part why storytelling, sort of the theme we've been discussing over the last few after parties. This is a big reason why storytelling feels so stale while music, film, TV feels stuck. We now live in a subscription world. We don't live in a broadcast world anymore. We live in a subscription world. When people subscribe and they want what they signed up for, they want it over and over again. So artists double down on what's already working. I know. I'm one of them. I get. I know. I understand exactly how this works. But remember, the Beatles didn't ask permission to make a day in the life. David Bowie didn't ask permission to be David Bowie. And Nirvana didn't ask if they could scream their way into oblivion. When's the last time we saw anything like that? When's the last time we all saw something like that? And we were all affected by that. Maybe Jay Z and Kanye. Maybe. I don't. Just don't. I don't know. I honestly think it goes back to Kurt. Some of you are right now thinking Taylor Swift, obviously massive success, huge. But her influence is something like cultural decoration compared to cultural definition. It's not transformative. It hasn't turned us collectively into something else. I'm not throwing Shade Taylor Swift's way, but she's not changing how people dress or how they talk or how they think the way that Kurt Cobain did, or even how a character like Chandler Bing did. I don't know what this means, but I dropped my son off at School of Rock camp this morning. Every kid. Every kid had a 1990s band T shirt on Nirvana, Green Day, Pearl Jam in 1985. When I was my son's age, I wasn't wearing a John Denver shirt from 1974, okay? I was wearing Van Halen and Def Leppard pins on my jean jacket and riding my BMX around. I could give a fuck what my parents were listening to 11 years prior. Where are the Nirvanas for the kids my son's age? You know, what are we doing? What are we doing? And for us here in Disgraceland, this isn't just about music. This is about storytelling. It's my belief that this increased corporate atmosphere that we now live in, whatever you wanna call it, the increased corporatization, it's gutted the power of great culture defining film and television and just narrative in general. Not just music, however, and this is the good part, there's a solution. I'm gonna get to that. I'm gonna get to that later in the bonus section of this episode. And I'm gonna bring receipts, okay? I'm gonna bring numbers, I'm gonna bring proof. So if you've ever felt like I feel right now, okay, like culture is sort of like putting you on the pain o mind list, right? Like it' you that the broader mainstream culture no longer reflects what you care about, then you're going to want to hear this bonus section, all right? And this isn't about aging out of what's cool. I don't want any of you thinking that you people are beyond cool. You know how I know? Because we talk about some rando, esoteric music history shit here, and you've been here for it for years, okay? And the artists that we trade on and the subject matter that we trade in every week is far cooler than what is being traded in in mainstream culture right now. Now, can you. Can you make that claim about the artists and the culture that you grew up with? No. That shit was fantastic. I know, I know, I know. I know what I sound like. I know I'm sounding like the old guy on the lawn telling the young kids to get off it, but I'm not. I'm not. And again, like I said, I'm going to bring receipts, okay? I'm gonna bring them to the bonus section, all right? You know, but you gotta be a member, okay? Cause I'm not trying to be totally controlled by the corporate overlords here. Or maybe because I am just a little. I don't know. But to hear the bonus Section. You gotta be an all access member of Disgraceland, okay? You gotta subscribe to our little niche part of the culture, okay? You know how to do it? Go to Disgracelandpod.com membership sign up for five bucks a month, less than the cost of Kurt Cobain's Bar of Teen Spirit. You can become a member on Apple Podcasts or Patreon. Patreon. You're gonna get a little bit more. You're gonna get a little bit more of me in the community chat and a content per month again in the bonus section. I'm digging into the real numbers here, okay? Record sales, TV ratings, box office hauls, banned books, how Pulp Fiction changed everything. I'm gonna prove that, yes, this is the important part. I'm gonna prove that, yes, the shit that you love back then was better because it had the power to actually change things, unlike what is passing for culture these days. So if there's one thing to take away from all of this, it's a we don't need the corporations to tell our stories. We can do it ourselves. I'll be back in a flash with your voicemails and your texts. Ready for a new way to play? 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All right, this week in Disgraceland we brought you our part two story, our part two episode on Run dmc, which is really an update episode. It's an update on the Jam Master J murder. And then this weekend we are running back our Britney Spears parts one and two episodes in our rewind slots. And next week we've got our Part 2 episode on the Temptations, which is really a deeper dive into the Tammy Terrell death and the travesty that was her early, some would say suspicious demise. That's going to be our question of the week next week. Which musician's death is most suspicious? Which cause of death are you calling bullshit on? 617-906-6638. To let me know, send me a voicemail Send me a text, hit me up with your answers, and as you know, we'll play what you got to say right here in the after party with some of you anyways, and that's what we're going to do right now. All right, you know where I'm at? I'm in the phone booth. It's the one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone. [phone]. If you want to chime in on anything related to Disgraceland, this week's question of the week spawned from our Run DMC episode was which hip hop group is the greatest of all time? Let's check in with the 865 on this very question.

[Ratchet]

Hey, Jake, it's ratchet from the 865 most influential hip hop group all time. Run DMC is up there, but I've got to go with Public Enemy, because when Public Enemy came out, I believe 1988, and I forgot the name of the album, but the first couple of Public Enemy albums, I was. I was in middle school, and all of a sudden, as a little white kid in St. Pete, Florida, I'm looking up Malcolm X, I'm looking up all the stuff that Public Enemy was rapping about. And so as far as influential hip hop groups, I'd say Public Enemy because they changed the entire consciousness of a generation of young white hip hop kids like myself. So, yeah, Public Enemy, most influential hip hop group of all time. And they're still doing it.

[Jake Brennan]

All right, 865. I hear you, Ratchet. First Public Enemy album was Yo, Bum Rush the Show. That's number one. Number two, you and I are of the same cloth, my man. Same thing for me. Not as early as yo bomb rushed the show. For me, though. It was nation of millions to hold us back. That was the record that did it for me with Public Enemy. When that came out or when I got my hands on it, which was probably 88. Would it come out in 1987? 88, dude. I literally dressed like Chuck D purposefully. Like exactly like exactly like Chuck D. Black Adidas high tops, 501 jeans, Champion sweatshirt. I didn't rock the Pittsburgh Pirates hat. I rocked a Mets hat instead. Was and still am a Mets fan despite my fandom for the Boston Red Sox. That's a whole other thing. I'm not going to go into that here, but. But yeah, I hear you, man. Huge influence. And you're right, I wasn't the only one. There were a bunch of white kids in the suburbs Taking their cues from Public Enemy and Chuck D. Glorious. Love it. Let's check in here with where are we going amy in the 716 who just text in. Very plainly put, Public Enemy, period. Yeah, Amy, you're absolutely right, Amy. Amy's got an earlier text here that I missed. She says, I know I said this in the Patreon, but I just wanted to text and say truly how much I've missed the podcast. In your storytelling, in your voice. Lol. Why are you lolling my voice? What does that mean? And our little Patreon community while I took a break from whatever the fuck is going on in the world right now. But man, what a joy to come back. Yeah. Welcome back, Amy. Happy to have you. Sorry I missed this back when you sent it in. Yikes. May apology apologies for that, guys. We're working on a way here at Double Elvis headquarters to engage with you further on the voicemails and the text. So we've come up with something that I think you're gonna like. I think you're gonna like it. We're not quite ready to roll it out yet. We haven't fully decided, but we're close and that may be most likely coming your way soon. If not, I'll just pretend we never had this conversation. 617-90-66638. You want to send me a voicemail? You want to send me a text? Question of the week coming up, I want your answers on is going to be what musician's death is the most suspicious. Okay, hit me up. 617-90-66638 voicemail and text. You can also hit me up. Disgracelandpod on Instagram TikTok x Facebook. Speaking of Instagram, Madame Das M A D A M E Das D A s writes in relationship to the Run DMC episode that we just released, Madam Das writes this update was a masterclass in storytelling. Unfortunately, it's a common tale from what I've observed growing up, and I absolutely hate all caps that it happened to Jay. Thank you for being his voice and also the voice of the witnesses slash victims. Appreciate this message, Madam. Madam Das. This story was a tricky one. It was a tough one. Jam Master Jay was obviously already dead when we released our first episode on Run DMC about four years ago now, something like that. And we didn't have a lot of the details on his death at that time. There's a lot of smoke. A lot of smoke. And I had suspicions, but I didn't want to fully go there. And it took a while for all that information to become publicly available for us to get. Once it did, we decided we're going to do part two and I'm happy that people responded to it. So if you haven't heard the Run DMC episode, go check that out. It is pretty much a Jam Master J episode, just like the upcoming Temptations episode is pretty much a Tammy Terrell episode. Motown fans will know what I'm talking about. This is a fantastic story. I can't wait for you guys to hear it. 617-90-66638 voicemail and text me after you do listen and let me know your thoughts. Also, I want to know from you, as always, what stories have been buried that need to be told. Dig, baby, dig. All right. Your voice helps uncover what gets buried. And your voice, your takes, your messages, they push me to propel me into the dark corners of music history. So keep them coming, all right? It's an important part of the show. It's an important part of what we do here. Quickest way to get my attention these days is the telephone. [phone] voicemail text. I'll be back in a flash.

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[Jake Brennan]

All right, we are back. Apple podcast listeners, make sure you have auto downloads turned on so Disgraceland finds you wherever you are at every single morning so you don't miss a beat. Listen, it's the Sports Rant section here. Going to make this one quick, okay, Because I don't have enough to. I don't have enough to rant about. The Red Sox are on a freaking tear. Seven in a row. Seven wins in a row. We're in second place. We're coming up strong behind Toronto. I don't believe in Toronto. I'm not worried about Toronto. We're ahead of the Yankees. That's all that matters. I don't know that this is going to last. I don't think the Yankees. The Yankees don't feel like a third place team to me. Okay, so we shall see. We shall see. But there's been a vibe shift in the AL East. At least you have to admit that. And maybe that's because there's been a shift in our sponsorship here for this Sports Rant segment. Okay, we got five Hour Energy as our sponsor as always, and we are super grateful. But this week I've got a new five Hour Energy product to tell you about. The Sports Rant is Sponsored by Five Hour Energy's new Confetti Craze flavor. It tastes just like birthday cake with a vanilla and buttery flavor. To let you be unapologetically extra and unstoppably energized. Head to your local retailer, www.fivehourenergy.com or Amazon to order yours today. Listen, I know a bunch of you are out there on the highway right now driving, listening to this great. I know I got a bunch of truckers who are Disgraceland fans. I know you drink the Five Hour Energy, get that new Confetti Craze flavor now. Matt.

[Matt]

Yes, Jake.

[Jake Brennan]

Give me the buzzer beater for the rant here. All right. Okay. I have a lot of people in my life, not going to name any names, but there's one old head in particular who is way down on baseball for reasons that I believe are nonsensical and sort of outdated. Okay? Baseball is exciting as hell right now, and it's been that way this year. Last year, when did they put the new rules in? Beginning of last year. Was that it? The new rules, you cannot deny, have made the game more watchable, more exciting. But I gotta say, I. You know, I teach my kids to never say the word hate, but I hate the extra innings rule, okay? With the dude at the start of the top of the 10th inning on second base. It reminds me of, like, kickball in seventh grade gym class when Mr. Boncy knows that he's only got, like, five minutes before he's going to get you showered and changed, and then before the bell rings and you got to go back to class so he sticks some rando at second just so someone can win the game. I hate it. I hate that that's professional sports right now. It drives me crazy. I do not like it. I like most of the other rules, most of them anyway. Pitch clock especially. But this one can't abide. The dude does not abide. That said, if it helps the Red Sox win in October, I'll be celebrating with a Five Hour Energy Confetti Craze flavor. Matt, how did I do?

[Matt]

Well, Jake, those new rules have certainly sped things up in baseball, but unfortunately, they slowed you down a little bit.

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Today.

[Matt]

We were at 116. So we got. We got some work to do.

[Jake Brennan]

All right, well, you know, better luck next week.

[Matt]

And I just want to go on the record here that I agree with you on the extra innings rule. Not a fan.

[Jake Brennan]

And that was the sports rant sponsored by Five Hour Energy's new Confetti craze. Flavor. Unleash your party vibes with as much caffeine as your your favorite 12 ounce fancy coffee, but with zero sugar and zero crash. Available in stores on Amazon or at www.fivehourenergy.com. all right, discos. Great Hollywoodland episode, if I do say so myself. For all y' all this week. This one on the inimitable Joan Crawford. I was super caffeinated during the taping of the wrap party. Matt, give us a little taste.

[Unknown]

Espresso was never been appealing to me because I like to enjoy. Part of the coffee experience for me is the length of time that it takes to drink the coffee right? And espresso. I look at it, I'm like, that's gonna be over in like 30 seconds and that's no fun.

[Jake Brennan]

Here's, here's what I'm learning about me. I'm a caffeine fan, not just a coffee fan. Because I go nowadays, first thing, tea, second thing, americano, third espresso. I reverse the, the intensity throughout the morning and then it's like by the time I sit down in front of the mic with you, I'm fucking a rocket ship looking to blast off.

[Unknown]

Okay, here's our highly caffeinated look at this week in Hollywood land. Jake, what music recs inspired by Joan Crawford do you have for us today?

[Jake Brennan]

This one is testing the limits of my what's how the hot hop, skip and jump referential treatment that we give these things. Okay, so Joan Craw. Craw. I thought crawfish. All right. Then I thought of the great Louisiana rock and roll artist CC Adcock. Ever hear of CC Adcock?

[Unknown]

I feel like I've seen the name before in my life, but I don't know.

[Jake Brennan]

Incredible. This is one of those dudes. Put out this record in 1994, self titled on Island Records, produced I believe by Denny Cordell, who did the early Petty stuff and Leon Russell. That record, I had that record when it came out. It is amazing. I still have it on CD somewhere. You can't it, it's not on Spotify. It's phenomenal. Later in my career as a musician, I ended up touring in Europe with CC AD Cock in about 10 years later in 2004. And he was, he was one of the most American characters of I ever met. We kind of became friends a little bit. But he's, he's, he's a, he's a recluse. He's, he's off the grid. I don't know what the dude's doing. But for those who are interested. In 2004, he put out a record on Yep Rock, which is the label I was signed to. And the record is called Lafayette Marquis. And it is amazing. It is incredible. Not as good as this debut album, but it is incredible. So check out C.C. adcock. Lafayette Marquis. The only time I've ever eaten Crawfish was with C.C. adcock in. In Lafayette, actually. Lafayette, Louisiana. The funnest day of my life might have been with him in Louisiana. One of them pre marriage, pre kids.

[Unknown]

I was gonna say careful there.

[Jake Brennan]

Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, for real. But it was like, I. I wouldn't have fun doing that. Now is also my point, given the amount of alcohol that was involved. But it was just. It was just a blast. In Louisiana, they do. I don't know if it's a Southern thing, but it was explained to me that, like, the big party day down there was Sundays because it's so church oriented and everybody parties together. There's no generation gap. You go to church and then after church the party starts and you party throughout the night and there's zydeco music and the whole thing, and it's just. And he took us to one of these, like, dance halls and where we cry. It was just unbelievable. I'm pretty sure he slept with my girlfriend at the time that night, but I don't blame him for it. Anyways, the next thing go from Joe Crawford. All right, discos. Make sure you are subscribed to Hollywoodland. So you're getting our swing at Hollywood in True Crime every week. 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Matt's going to have the episode notes for those those stories in the show notes of this here episode. So you can easily find that you want to hear that Matthew Perry episode. For instance, you might be like, why? Why is Matthew Perry episode a disgrace? Well, once upon a time, if you're new here, we experimented with doing some non musical subjects in Disgraceland and Matthew Perry was one of them. Still in the feed will eventually be in Hollywoodland, but for now, he's one of the only ones left in Disgraceland along with Anthony Bourdain. So yeah, and that Matthew Perry one's a banger. You're gonna want to hear it. Anyways, I gotta get going. It's late. Matt is waiting patiently for me to finish this so he can finalize it. Get it in the feed to all y'. All. I get a shot up. I'm gonna recap real quick. Number one, this week's full episode on Run dmc. Part two on Run dmc, I should say, is live and waiting for you right now. Number two, rewind episodes this week, Britney Spears Part one and part two. Number three. Coming up at the top of next week, Our new Part 2 episode on the Temptations and the suspicious death of Tammy Terrell. Number four over in Hollywoodland right now, our episode on Joan Crawford. And that one is a banger. Number 561-790-66638. Voicemail, text, get at me that way or hit me up. Disgracelandpod on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, Disgracelandpodmail.com to email me. Your voice helps uncover what gets gets buried. Your takes propel me into the dark corners of music history. So keep them coming. Dig, baby, dig now that the night is over Number six Don't forget discos. Like I said, this ain't just content. It's community. A community of the obsessed. And no one cares about music, books, records and the crime and grime that ties them all together like you do. And, well, that's a disgrace. All right, this week's new episode subject Jam Master J from Run DMC passed away back on October 30, 2002. And here is what America was listening to on that day According to the Billboard charts number one dilemma Nelly featuring Kelly Rolland last week one peak position one weeks on chart 16 number two gangst 11 Eve featuring Alicia Keys last week three peak position two weeks on 16 number three a moment like this Kelly Clarkson Last Week Peak Position 1 Weeks on Chart 6 Number 4 Hema Cameron featuring Jules Santana Freaky Ziki and toya Last week 4 Peak position 4 Weeks on chart Working Missing Missing Quit talking and start mixing Cut it.