Bonus Episode: The Definition of Cool, Influence Over Success, and FIDLAR

Summary

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DISGRACELAND – Bonus Episode: The Definition of Cool, Influence Over Success, and FIDLAR

Release Date: August 10, 2023
Host: Jake Brennan (Double Elvis Productions)

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Episode Overview

This interactive afterparty episode bridges full-length DISGRACELAND releases, diving deep into music history’s messy underbelly, listener calls, and host banter. This week’s theme centers on The Velvet Underground—their lasting influence versus their lack of commercial success, the elusive definition of “cool,” and the lineage of alternative, guitar-driven music. In true DISGRACELAND fashion, Jake Brennan weaves in new music (FIDLAR’s cover of Tom Petty's "Free Fallin’"), jazz recommendations, passionate listener voicemails, and signature irreverence.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Velvet Underground: Cool Over Success

• Velvet Underground’s Legacy

  • Jake opens by asking: Is there a more influential band than the Velvet Underground for guitar-driven, alternative-ish music? (04:13)
  • “Ask your average music fan to name three Velvet Underground songs and they’d be hard pressed to do so. ... The Velvet Underground [was] way more influential than they were successful.” (06:40)
  • Brennan traces a line through decades of alternative music: FIDLAR → Black Keys → White Stripes → The Strokes → Wilco → Radiohead → Flaming Lips → Nirvana → GNR → Pixies/Smiths/Cure/Clash/Ramones/Velvet Underground. (04:45)

• The Definition of “Cool”

  • Jake argues Velvet Underground’s cultural power was in their “cool”—not just sounding different but being different, mysterious, alluring, and slightly dangerous.
  • “When I think cool, the image that comes to mind is Lou Reed. Frozen in black and white with that short hair, those wrap-around black sunglasses... statuesque, grotesque, androgynous, beautiful—all at the same time. It's rock and roll, but it's also art.” (07:18)
  • “If I could define it, it wouldn’t actually be cool.” (09:40)

• Influence vs. Mainstream Success

  • Jake makes clear that influence isn’t the same as popularity or chart performance. The Velvet Underground’s impact runs through bands much more famous than they ever were.

Notable Quote

“All of those bands were directly influenced by the Velvet Underground. To say nothing of David Bowie, the Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen, Bob Dylan... all took inspiration from the Velvet Underground.”
— Jake Brennan (05:59)

Memorable Moment

Jake describes first hearing The Velvet Underground in a college dorm, wandering into a haze-filled room, instantly hooked by the music’s cool danger:

“I walk in, introduce myself, I smoke some hash, we listen to that whole Velvet Underground record. Just blew my mind. And I've been hooked ever since. And there's that danger to it, right?” (08:55)

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2. Listener Interactions & Community

Jake welcomes voicemails, texts, and DMs, creating a collaborative, crowd-driven conversation about music history.

Listener Jazz Recommendations (15:46)

• Anne from the 303 gives jazz and documentary recs:
  • Dave Brubeck (especially “Take Five”)
  • Vince Guaraldi (not just “Charlie Brown”)
  • Wes Montgomery, Stan Getz
  • Film: Jazz on a Summer’s Day (Newport Jazz Festival doc)

Jake responds with anecdotes (the Bill Clinton/Brubeck story), and gratitude:

“I love Dave Brubeck… Brubeck goes, yeah, name three records. That just fucking killed me.” (17:50)

Country & Biopics

• Roger from Dry Ridge, KY requests Waylon Jennings content. Jake promises it’s coming and references his YouTube “Cocaine Bear” story. (20:33–21:02)
• Dean from 810 mentions the impact of Jake's Johnny Cash episode on how he now sees the film Walk the Line. (21:50)
  • Jake: “You've only got 90 minutes or two hours to tell the story of these artists. … I kind of feel for the filmmakers in a lot of ways.” (22:32)

Taylor Swift’s Appeal

• Wendy from the 415 shares insights into Swift’s “female cult” fandom:
  • “She's strong but vulnerable... she's saying things that girls feel and they can't say.” (24:17–25:41)
  • Jake: “Wendy, thanks for the call. I hear you. It's powerful stuff.” (25:41)

Hip-Hop Shoutouts

• Curtis from Connecticut pushes for a Gang Starr episode; Jake flips it back, seeking sources and angles. (30:04–30:29)
• Johnny from NH reflects on the show’s true community:
  • “The word ‘inclusive’ is thrown around so much it’s lost its meaning, but … it just creates such a sense of community for me.” (30:51)

Text Session Highlights (31:55–39:57)

• Suggestions range from a Milli Vanilli April Fool’s episode to praise for Jack White’s project with Loretta Lynn.
• Thin Lizzy and Flogging Molly get shout-outs; Jake admits Flogging Molly isn’t in his regular rotation but is game to explore.
• “In my opinion, Stevie Wonder's impact culturally supersedes Prince’s.” (646, cited at 37:32)
• Best duets, guitarists, and “after-work, crack-a-beer” songs are debated.
• Jazz essentials recommended: Lee Morgan, Benny Golson, Charlie Christian, Return to Forever, Billy Cobham.

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3. Current Listening & Recommendations

Jake’s unique, relatable recommendations close out the episode, revealing both taste and persona.

Jazz Focus

• “For me, it’s all about [Keith Jarrett’s] album Treasure Island right now… specifically the leadoff track, ‘The Rich and the Poor.’ Quite possibly… the greatest end-of-the-workday songs I’ve ever heard.” (39:57)
• Invites listeners’ favorite after-work songs to “crack a cold one to.” “I have a feeling we’re going to get a lot more classic country incoming on this one.” (40:52)

FIDLAR & Covers

• “I've been listening to FIDLAR’s new single, a cover of Tom Petty’s ‘Free Fallin’’. This is on the heels of the band’s recent cover of Limp Bizkit’s ‘Nookie.’ I am HERE for it. … Keep the fucked up covers coming, guys.” (41:13)

Best Non-Biopic Music Movies

• Jake and listeners weigh in—his pick: Fast Times at Ridgemont High:
  • “This movie is one of those great movies where it doesn’t matter what the song is. ... This movie made me give a [shit] about Jackson Browne.” (42:09)

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Notable Quotes

• On The Velvet Underground’s Cool:

  “It's all some sort of contrived put-on that seems utterly effortless and totally New York... not to take your wife and kids into town for the weekend to see a show version of New York, but in that dangerous downtown, take your life into your own hands to cop some dope kind of New York. The shit is compelling, all right.”
  — Jake Brennan (07:50)

• On Influence vs. Success:

  “Influence is not the same as popularity or success, and the Velvet Underground might be the best example of that ever.”
  — Jake Brennan (04:50)

• On the Podcast’s Community:

  “Community. That's what we're building. That's what we're doing here. … Keep listening, keep calling, keep texting. … I am here for it.”
  — Jake Brennan (31:55)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:33] Main discussion begins: Velvet Underground’s true influence, the “definition of cool,” Jake’s personal story
• [15:46] Listener voicemails: jazz recommendations, Brubeck/Clinton story
• [20:33] Listener requests: Waylon Jennings episode, country music chat
• [21:50] Biopics discussion (Johnny Cash, Walk the Line)
• [24:17] Taylor Swift fandom voicemail and commentary
• [30:04] Gang Starr episode shoutout
• [31:55] Community & inclusive spirit, text messages (music gossip, recommendations, debates)
• [39:57] Jake’s listening recommendations (Keith Jarrett, FIDLAR, after-work songs)
• [42:09] Best non-biopic music movies (Fast Times at Ridgemont High)

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Overall Tone & Style

Jake’s approach is irreverent, conversational, and self-aware—equal parts insider expertise, fandom, and willingness to go wherever listeners guide the show. The humorous edge never overshadows his genuine love for musical deep dives. DISGRACELAND’s community-oriented, “afterparty” vibe shines through in every segment.

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For Listeners New and Old

If you’re fascinated by the secret history, overlooked influences, and wild personalities behind your favorite musicians—and you love a host who threads together riotous music geekery and a true-crime edge, this episode offers a smorgasbord of banter, recommendations, and listener-driven conversation. Expect more than facts: here, atmosphere, attitude, and audience matter just as much.

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To get involved:

• Call/text: 617-906-6638
• Social: @disgracelandpod

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[Jake Brennan (Disgraceland Host)]

Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show. The party after the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard. To dig into the dirt on this episode, we are talking about Velvet Underground, Fiddler's new Tom Petty cover. Jazz, jazz and more jazz. But especially Keith Jarrett's the Rich and the Poor. And of course your voicemails, text, DMs and more. And as always, a whole lot of Rosie. All right, discos, let's get into it. Yes, yes, yes. Run, run, run. I am waiting for my man and you are here with me in the afterparty in this, our Velvet Underground week. Ladies and gentlemen, is there a more influential band than the Velvet Underground? I'm asking because this is the week where we release our full episode on the Velvet Undergr. We did two episodes on Lou Reed before a couple seasons ago, last season, but we're giving a whole episode to the full band right here, right now. And you know, I ask. I gotta ask, I gotta ask because I just, I literally don't know the answer. Is the Velvet Underground the most influential band of all time when it comes to guitar driven, alternative ish sounding music? Okay. At least in the latter part of the 20th century. So we're gonna get into that. But I just wanna say off the top here, if you're hearing something that' sounds a little bit different, we're recording in a new space. We are building this new mobile studio here for a hot minute as I build a bigger, newer studio. So we're getting out the kinks here a little bit. So if it sounds Different. That's what you're hearing. But let's get right into it. All right, I'm back. I'm psyched to be back. I took a week off from writing, from recording, from talking to you guys. I was traveling. Did a huge road trip with my family about a week long. Stoked to be diving back into it here. So let's go back. All right, let's hit this question of the Velvet Underground Underground's influence. Let's go back in time, beginning now in 2023, and tracing back the most impactful guitar driven rock and roll bands, beginning with. I don't know. Who's the new young guitar rock band that's impacting youth culture? I would argue that there isn't one. But that's a whole other can of words and probably a whole other episode. But let's say fiddler. Fiddler. Fiddler. How the hell you pronounce it? A band I can't shut up about. I should know how to pronounce the. The name of their band, this youngish, guitar driven. They're. They're making and releasing music as we spe. Start with them. And then let's go back a couple more years. Let's go to the Black Keys. They're still releasing music. Black Keys are still selling out stadiums. And then let's keep driving in reverse. Jack White, the White Stripes, the Strokes. All right, we just tore our ass backward in time to 2001, to the release of the first Strokes record, to a time when rock and roll still mattered. But let's not stop there. Let's keep going, okay? Let's keep going back in time from the Strokes, Wilco to Radiohead, to Flaming Lips, to Nirvana, Guns N Roses, the Cult. Who else? The Pixies, the Jesus, Mary Chain, the Smiths, the Cure. Can't forget about our English friends. And now. Now we're back into the latter half of the 70s. The clash, the Ramones, the New York Dolls, all the way back to the Velvet Underground. Again, let's list those bands in reverse order. Fiddler, Black Keys, White Stripes, the Strokes, Wilco, Radiohead, Flaming Lips, Nirvana, gnr, the Cult, the Pixies, the Jesus and Mary Chain, the Smiths. Secure. The Clash, the Ramones, New York Doll. Shit. Might as well. The Doors in. Because the Doors, along with the rest of these bands went on to be majorly influential in their own right. And not only on the bands that came after them, but on their peers and on each other. And all of those bands were directly influenced by the Velvet Underground. To Say nothing of David Bowie, the Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen, Bob Dylan, and a handful of other heavies that in some ways both big and small, all took inspiration from the Velvet Underground. But here's the thing. Ask your average music fan to name three Velvet Underground songs and they'd be hard pressed to do so. I'm not judging. I'm just pointing out that the Velvet Underground, one of those bands that was way more influential than they were successful, I take it for granted. I think of them as being these huge icons of music history. And they are. They certainly are, but they're not. Like, you know, ask the layperson, like I said, off the street, who? The Velvet Underground. Or at least name three songs or a couple albums. And they can't do that. So what is it, what is it about the Velvet Underground that made that band so influential but did not make them successful? To me, it boils down to one cool. When I think cool, the image that most comes to mind, and this is so true, this is the God's honest truth, when I think of cool, the image that comes to mind is Lou Reed. Frozen in black and white with that short hair, those wraparound black sunglasses, the rest of the Velvet standing around him on stage, statuesque, grotesque, grotesque, androgynous, beautiful, all, all at the same time. It's rock and roll, but it's also art. It's all some sort of contrived put on that seems utterly effortless in totally New York. And not to take your wife and kids into town for the weekend to see a show version of New York, but in that dangerous downtown, take your life into your own hands to cop some dope kind of New York, the shit is compelling, all right. Even Jim Morrison, who in the late 60s was cool incarnate to middle America and the rest of the mainstream rock world, fell hard for the Velvet Underground. Andy Warhol, of course, had a lot to do with this, and we get into that in the full episode. But most of this influence, most of this cool, it's due to the members of the band themselves. Even though Warhol was a Svengali, to be all Svengalis. The members of the band, Lou Reed, John Cale, Sterling Morrison, Mo Tucker, even Nico, they were all naturally cool beyond compare. You can see it in the images of the band, sure, like I mentioned. But more important, you can hear it in their playing, depending on the members. Sometimes it's virtuoso, like, as is the case with John Cale, and sometimes completely amateur, as is the case with Nico and sometimes Mo Tucker. But it's never alienating. It's always perfect. Pitch perfect. Even when it's not pitch perfect, it's pitch perfect. It's always right on. It's always instinctually cool. The first time I heard the Velvet Underground, I was walking down the floor of my dorm on the first day, my first day at Northeastern University, and I heard Rock and roll, the song Rock and Roll. And I knew it was the Velvet Underground because I knew the Jane's Addiction version, and I knew that was a Velvet Underground cover, but I didn't actually know the Velvet Underground version. So I heard it. I was like, oh, this is cool. This must be the Velvet Underground. So I go to the go to the room where this is coming out of. There's two dudes in there smoking hash, of course. So I walk in, introduce myself, I smoke some hash, we listen to that whole Velvet Underground record. Just blew my mind. And I've been hooked ever since. And there's that danger to it, right? I hate to sound juvenile, adolescent and cheesy, but there's just something, the culture of it, that I'm in on. Something special. I'm in on something unique. I'm in on something that that person over there is not in on. That is cool. And I cannot define it. If I could define it, it wouldn't actually be cool. So stupid Question of the Week. Who is the most influential rock band of all time? Is it the Velvet Underground? I can already hear people screaming back at me into their speaker. No, you idiot, it's the Stooges. It's the Stooges. So if so, if that's true, why? Why is it Iggy? Why is it Iggy Pop and the Stooges and not Lou and the Velvets? Or is it the Stones? Is it Come at me with the Beatles? If you think so. The Pixies? Nirvana? Who is the most influential rock band of all time and why? Let me know. 690-66638 Leave a voicemail, send me a text with your answers or hit me on the socials. Disgracelandpod I'm back after this with your voicemails and your texts and your DMs.

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Alrighty then, let's get into your voicemails. Let's get into your text Hot on the heels of last week's Sonny Rollins episode, we got this voicemail from ann

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in the 303 hey Jake, this is

[Podcast Guest or Listener (Anne)]

Anne, also known as Redhead1 from Instagram. I am your New York Scorsese and Bjork connection. I've connected with you a few times. I wanted to leave you a voicemail after listening to your episode yesterday and I'm excited for the Sonny Rollins episode today. Most definitely a jazz head and I have some suggestions for you. Start with some Dave Brubeck, particularly Take Five. That's a great album. You'll dig Vince Guaraldi. No, he did not just do the Charlie Brown Christmas special. He had a trio in the early 60s that is really great. Straight ahead, jazz. Wes Montgomery, jazz guitarist, also from the 60s. Very, very good. Very chill. And finally, Stan Getz. Incredible saxophonist. Very weird dude. He might be worth looking into for an episode. Very strange guy, but incredible saxophonist and he's responsible for bringing bossa nova to the US from Brazil in the 60s. Also, to tie into a Badlands question, which is favorite summer movie, I'm gonna go with a music. So I'm tying into two questions. Jazz on a summer's Day. If you've never seen it man, check it out. I know you did a performance at the Newport Folk Festival. This is the Newport jazz festival from 1958. Everybody is in it. Louis Armstrong, etc. Etc. Check it out. Jazz on a summer's day. Love everything you do. I have had a nice interactions with you previously and just want to say keep doing what you're doing and check out some jazz. Have a wonderful Day Rocka rolla.

[Jake Brennan (Disgraceland Host)]

All right. And I appreciate the call. Psyched to hear from you again. I love Dave Brubeck, Okay. I think he's great. And you'll appreciate this. I heard this really funny story about Dave Brubeck recently. I can't remember where I heard it. Some documentary or something. I think it might have been the Tom Petty doc. I'm not sure. But basically, Dave Brubeck ends up meeting President Bill Clinton. Okay. And Bill Clinton, while he's president, I believe. I believe this is while he was president, says to Dave Brubeck, oh, I'm a huge fan. I love your music. And Brubeck goes, yeah, name three records that just fucking killed me. Just imagine you're meeting the President, and the President is like, I love you. And you call him out, you challenge him, and apparently Clinton did it. Apparently Bill Clinton could do it, you know, so the story goes. Who the hell knows if that's true or not? But whatever, I love it. I also love Vince Giraldi, A friend of mine from Noble Records, this record shop in North Carolina sent me a. Sent me a bunch of records, and he sent me this. This Vince Geraldi record called Black Orpheus. Jazz Impressions of Black Orpheus. That's the full title. I love it. I'm sure you know, and I'm sure you know about the. The Vince Geraldi, Grateful Dead connection. San Francisco guys. I once saw this cool picture of Vince with some of the guys. Jerry and the rest of the Dead, they're just hanging out. Very cool. Yeah. West Montgomery. I got to get into it. Hit me up with a. With an album. Where do I start? There's so much. I hear it on mixes. I always love it. I always remind myself to go back to it. I never go back to him. So just let me know what full length to check out. And speaking of jazz. Oh, yeah, I also have not seen jazz on a summer's. Despite playing at the Newport Folk Festival last year and attending the jazz festival many times, I still haven't seen that. Thanks for reminding me. Jazz on a summer's day is what Anne is talking about. It's a great documentary about jazz musicians. Newport Folk, excuse me, Newport Jazz Fest in particular. And speaking of jazz and New York City, where you're from, your hometown. Looks like I will be at a famous jazz venue in New York in September doing an event. It's not my event. It's a musician friend of mine that will be announced shortly. I'm almost 100% confirmed there's gonna be some Heavy hitters involved, too. Should be a lot of fun. I'll let you know about that. I'll let everyone know about that when it comes up. All right, and thanks for the call. Okay, prior to our Sonny Rollins episode, we released a full episode on Merle Haggard, and that prompted a bunch of country conversations. So let's hear this voicemail from the 8, 5, 9.

[Podcast Listener/Caller]

Hey, Jake, this is Roger from Dry Ridge, Kentucky. I've listened to pretty much all your episodes, love most of them, but I feel that you're long overdue for a Waylon Jennings episode. When it comes to outlaw, badass country music, you don't get more outlaw, badass country than Waylon Jennings. And I would love to hear one on Lane Staley from Alison Chainsaw. Keep up the great work. Peace out.

[Jake Brennan (Disgraceland Host)]

I hear you, man. Roger, there, there will be a Waylon Jennings episode. This has now become. Waylon has become one of the most requested subjects for Disgraceland. I did do a YouTube story on him. You can check that out. That's at our YouTube YouTube.com Disgraceland pod. And that was his whole connection to the cocaine bear. You can check that story out there, I think. I think the episode that I do, however, will be much more far reaching than what we did on YouTube. But that's not going to be anytime soon in the future. Just not in the near future. All right, so we get the YouTube thing to tide over your whaling. Excuse me, Waylon Jennings Jones. All right, still on the country tip. Let's check out this voicemail from the 810.

[Podcast Listener/Caller]

Hey, Jake, it's Dean from the 810. Just calling about your topic of good, like biopics and stuff like that on music artists and stuff like that. I still think it's probably one of my favorites, Walk the Line. But I gotta say, like, your Johnny Cash episode kind of changes the perspective a little bit when you watch that movie and makes you think a little differently. And then on top of that, when we brought this up, it got me thinking. And I'm just doing some Google searching around and I stumbled upon a documentary called My Darling Vivian that came out a few years ago about Johnny Cash's first wife. And that also just like totally changes your perspective and outlook on Johnny Cash and stuff like that. So keep it real, man. Rock and roll. Bye, Dave.

[Jake Brennan (Disgraceland Host)]

I love the Johnny Cash Walk the Line biopic. I think it's, it's one of the better ones. And I, I go into it with a open mind. Went into it with an open mind when I watched it and when it's on and I, I rewatch it, I do the same thing. The bottom line is you've only got 90 minutes or at most two hours to tell the story of these artists. It's why I love what I do in Disgraceland, because I am not, I mean I have 30 minutes or sometimes I can do double episodes or whatever, but I'm not stuck to the sort of three act screenwriting format and I don't have to hit the same beats that you have to hit in a multimillion dollar budgeted film. And so I kind of feel for the filmmakers in a lot of way. But I think, I think the Johnny Cash one in particular, they did a really good job. There's been some really bad ones. I don't want to shit talk any of them, but we know what they are. The bottom line is these artists, especially an artist like Johnny Cash, there's so much to cover. There's so much, these lives that they live, his life in particular, he lives such a full life. And when you're talking about our side of the street here, what we do, you, me, the sort of music and true crime stuff, stuff, there's so much to cover when it comes to Johnny Cash. When I first started researching Johnny Cash for that episode you were talking about, Dave, my initial thought was, and I almost did it. I got into pre production with it. I was like, this is a 10 episode series. This is far more than one episode. And I ended up only doing one for reasons that I won't go into. But I do think down the line there's a larger Johnny Cash story for me to tell. But yeah, thanks for the call, Dave. Appreciate that. Let's, let's check out Wendy from the 41 5.

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Hey there. I'm kind of new listener but I love the show and I know it's a little late, but I've been concentrating on Taylor Swift. My name is Wendy from 415 and yeah, I'm the same generation as you, but I've been doing some deep diving and I totally realized why she has a female like cult. Mostly female because she's strong but vulnerable and like just women have such low self esteem and she's saying things that girls feel and they can't say. And I don't know, I just, I kind of, I really get it. It's like a voice for girls and women and to not be ashamed of it or be like, oh this is stupid, this is weak or whatever. It's like she has issues with her self esteem but then goes out there like a rock star and as a businesswoman, as a songwriter in pop, yeah, it's just a tornado like and then with social media. So I just want to give my 2 cents on there because I kind of didn't understand it at first. I mean I understood her, but not like this completely nuttiness. But yeah, the little girls are growing up I guess. So take care. Love the show and yeah, congrats.

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Wendy, thanks for the call. I hear you. It's powerful stuff. I appreciate your insight into Ms. Swift and her fans. Thank you for listening. Appreciate the new listeners. All right, let's check out a couple more here. This one from the 808 hey, it's

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Number one I want to know how many takes it took to get that fast beast down at the end. But beyond that, I didn't realize it. Curtis from Connecticut, dude, you have to just do Gangstar. Gangstar has one of the coolest stories for up and coming and being a legend that's not spoken highly of or highly regarded by a lot of people, very underrated. Hands down, one of the best. Gangstar, one of the best yet.

[Jake Brennan (Disgraceland Host)]

Curtis, my man, where do I start with Gangstar? Where? What's the book? What's the doc? What's the music? What's the magazine article? Where's the angle? Let me know, hit me back. 617-906-6638. Appreciate the message. Johnny, from the 207. Let's hear from you, Jake.

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It's your buddy Johnny from New Hampshire, man. Hey, thanks for the. Thanks for the play and, you know, honestly, thank you for giving a shit who we are. Like, that's pretty cool. Like, I. It would be so easy for you to just be like, ah, whatever the listeners, fuck them all. I need, you know, just listen to my thing and shut up. But it's really, really. I don't know, the word inclusive is thrown around so much that it's lost its meaning, but it's really. It just creates such a sense of community for me. Like, I really look forward to this and I feel like. I feel like we're all part of it. So it's cool. Like we're. For lack of a better term, I feel like when the Tasmanian double just kind of turns into a whirling dervish, like this whole show is just like a crazy musical whirling dervish of people and listening and different. I'm into it, so good job. All right, brother. Love you. Rock and roll. Keep up the good work, my man. I gotta go get on this roof and fix this chimney. Cha cha.

[Jake Brennan (Disgraceland Host)]

That's right, man. Community. That's what we're building. That's what we're doing here. I don't know what else to say. Keep listening, keep calling, keep texting. Keep telling me what you guys want. Keep telling me what you like, what you dislike, what you want to hear, what you want me to create. I am here for it. 617-906-6638. Voicemail and text. Speaking of text, let's get into some text right now, all right? From the 707. The 707 writes in, please make an April Fool's episode about Milli Vanilli. I can't think of a crime to tie them to, but that's what researchers are for on a more serious note, I would love a White Stripes Jack White episode. His album with Loretta Lynn is excellent. If you haven't heard it, 707. I have heard it. I have heard that record. I think it's real good. Good. I think an episode. I've always thought there was a Jack White episode there. He's so prickly, though. I just worry, you know, I don't want that dude freaking out or whatever. All right, let's see what else we got here from the 706. I just heard your rant on YouTube. The undertones and Thin Lizzy. I totally groove on Thin Lizzy with you. And U2 has always kind of sucked, but that's a big statement. But I wonder why you completely forgot Flogging Molly. Well, I completely forgot flogging Molly because I forget, man, Dave King put some amazing together. You should give them a try. And if I'm being honest, I'm not that familiar with Vlogging Molly's catalog, but I appreciate the prompt and I'm gonna go check that out. Let's see what else we got here from the 802. Jeff from the 802. Awesome duet to check out. Iggy Pop and Kate Pearson. Candy. I agree with you. 802. It is great. 260 writes in. Hey, Jake, Rob from the 260. You were asking about times that Pop monsters shared the mic. I got a recent one that I'm sure you probably heard about. July 15th. That's real recent, Rob. July 15th. Rob says 2023. Rob says Ford Field in Detroit says Rob Michigan says Rob. I was one of the lucky 70,000 plus that night that saw Eminem, freaking Eminem pop up under Ed Sheering's Mathematics stage. The place absolutely erupted. You couldn't even hear Marshall spitting until the chorus came back around. After we all lost ourselves, the duo hit us with a killer rendition of Stan before Em left the stage with a giant middle finger to the entire arena. It was legendary. Now that's my kind of text. Love that. Love that. Also, I've worked my way around on Eminem. Old school Disgraceland fans will know what I'm talking about. Okay. Hey, Jake, Matthew here from the 71 7. I was able to snag a copy. He's got a picture here. Fishbones Truth and Soul on vinyl. Damn, I need that. I need that. I need that record on vinyl. Where'd you get that? 928. Where'd you get that? Matthew, why does your number say 928 but you're saying you're from the 717. I don't understand. Anyways, more importantly, nice grab. 6, 4, 6. In my opinion, Stevie winner's impact culturally supersedes princes. You talk about a brother from another planet. That is from my buddy from the 646. Does Stevie wonder impact culture? Did he more than Prince? It's a good question. I don't know the answer. Six, one, two. Eric from Minneapolis, top duet. I go straight to Nick Cave and Kylie Minogue. Eric says a lot. I'm going to skim through this. He also says today you asked for the best musician in the Talent vs. Craft episode. It's not possible. Best guitarist Andrew Ballou. No question of his impact and creativity. But is he as good as Jimmy Page, Django Reinhardt, Stanley Jordan or Fox freaking Michael Hedges? This is what led me to my favorite slash greatest system, which is number one, my all time overarching favorite. Number two, my favorite as shown by who I listen to the most. Three, who am I into right now? Example in the best favorite band category all time is the residents. Whoa. Number two, most listened to is ween damn. Number three, right now I'm super digging vistas from Scotland. Sorry for going on. I was going to call, but I'm sick as heck and can't talk. So swell. Keep making the quality you do it is appreciated. You got it, Eric. Thanks for that message. Yeah, man, I don't know. I don't know. I'm gonna keep going. There's a lot there. All right, one more here. Here we go. Hey, Jake, it's from Lance Vallis. Not sure if my Facebook messenger message got through. Thought I'd send you the same one via text by request. Some essential jazz listening. Lee Morgan, the Sidewinder. I have it. It's awesome. Benny Golson, the Philadelphians. Never heard of it. We'll check it out. Dave Brubeck, Time out. Have it. Listen to it. Awesome. Wes Montgomery smoking at the half note. Well, I asked earlier what the Wes Montgomery album to get into and I guess I have my answer here. Charlie Christian, genius of the electric guitar. I got the impression you were looking for acoustic jazz, but a couple of excellent electric jazz fusion records are light as a feather. Return to Forever Spectrum. Billy Cor Corbin very eagerly awaiting an Elliot Smith episode. I used to live in the Boston area and I might be totally misremembering this, but did you used to host an open mic or something like that at the Brendan Bean and jamaica plane like 20, 25 years ago? No, I did not. Did not. Host an open mic. Give me some fucking credit man. But my dad did have a residency, not an open mic at the Brendan Bean about 30 years ago and I talked about that on one of the recent afterparty episodes. You must have just missed it. All right, so that was. The text is okay. 617-906-6638 Leave me a text. Send me a voicemail at this Graceland pod with the DMs. I will get to you on direct message shortly. Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. This bonus episode is turning out to be super long, so we're gonna do the DMs next week. Take one quick break. Back in a flash. The Recommendations Part this is the recommendations part. The part where we recommend the things that need recommending. The Recommendations part what I've been Listening to so as you can tell, I've been listening to a lot of jazz. I mentioned the Vince Giraldi album above. Also been listening to Keith Jarrett. Dude has a massive discography. But for me it's all about the album Treasure island right now. Now specifically the leadoff track, the Rich and the Poor. Quite possibly one if not the greatest end of the workday songs that I've ever heard. It screams Take a load off and crack a cold can of beer. Makes me instantly feel like I'm like some fucking hard boiled detective in a suit that I haven't taken off in three weeks and I'm in some 70s crime thriller. I just walked into my shitty studio apartment in the village and I'm on the hunt for something weird, wet and cold to drown my day. I love this song. Check it out. Keith Jarrett the Rich and the Poor and for Keith Jarrett heads out there. And I know you're out there. I know there's some heavy jazz dudes out there, some major dudes. Let me know where to go next with Keith Jarrett. There's so much of it. Okay, 617-906-6638 also, one of your Holy shit, work is finally done and I need a beer songs. What song do you reach for? When work is done and you're reaching for a cold one, let me know. 617906 is that specific enough for you? I have a feeling we're going to get a lot more classic country incoming on this one. Let me know your favorite afterwork songs. I'm also listening to Fiddler's new single cover of Tom Petty's Free Fallen. This is on the heels of the band's recent cover of Limp Bizkit's Nookie not sure what these guys are up to, but I am here for it. Keep the fucked up covers coming, guys. Anyone knows this band, let them know how much I love them. We love, love to talk to them. I love this band so much I wish I was in it. And that's saying something because I really have zero desire to ever be in a band again. It's a hard life. You guys know this. But as the kids say, fuck it, dude. Life is rad. We asked a couple bonus episodes ago what were the best non music biopic music movies and a lot of you wrote In Fast Times of Ridgemont High and I gotta say this might be my top choice as well. Was on TCM recently. I think it was TCM and I can't not watch this when it's on. I can't skip through it. It, I can't change the channel. So I watched it and it was the beginning. It was great. Bradley, you know, he's in the cruising vessel cruising into the parking lot in that opening scene or one of the opening scenes. It just this movie is one of those great movies where it doesn't matter what the song is. The photography is so good, the visuals are so great that you know, this is like I didn't give a about Jackson Brown when I was a kid, but this movie made me give a about Jackson Brown. That's how good good this movie is. I'm not telling you anything you don't know, but if by chance there's any young kids listening to this and you're just like, you've heard of this movie but you have not seen it, go watch it run. Watch Fast Times of Ridgemont High 617-906-6638 if you have any more non biopic music movies to recommend, also let me know what your favorite after work tune is to crack a cold one too. Let me know. And check out the Rich and the Poor by Keith Jarrett at Disgraceland pod on the social 617-9066 I'm back in a flash with some Zen. All right, let's recap, shall we? Number one, Velvet Underground is the latest episode of Disgraceland. It is in your feeds right now. Number two, we've got a new season of Badlands just launched with an episode on Johnny Depp that is available in the Badlands feed this week. We are dropping this episode. It's a season launch episode so we're dropping it into the Disgraceland feed as well. But guys, this show, the show, the show. 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