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Bonus Episode: The Grateful Dead Psyop Theory and the Laurel Canyon Pop Star Military Industrial Complex
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Jake Brennan
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Jake Brennan
Hey, discos. Need a little more Disgraceland in your life? Just a touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland. The after party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show. The party. After the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard to dig into the dirt. Our mission, to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode. We're disrupting the Grateful Dead CIA PSYOP theory. Previewing next week's new episode, Part two of our In Excess tale. And in the exclusive section, we dive into Laurel Canyon pop stars and their military industrial complex parents. Plus we get into your emails, comments, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know that the best history is the history that gets buried. Disgrace Land is where I tell the stories I didn't want told. The kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, discos, let's get into it. So apparently you can't spell Jerry Garcia without CIA G A R CIA. Now there are some that will have you believe that Jerry Garcia was a knowing participant in the federal government's covert manipulation of American youth. And that the Grateful Dead's iconic de facto leader was a working spy along with the band sound man Augustus, Stanley Bear Owsley and the rest of the Deads band members, including Bob Weird. They were compromised supposedly as well. And this all proves that Weir's and Mickey Hart's membership at Bohemian Grove was nothing but a malevolent extension of the band's CIA affiliation. Wackadoo. No shade to anyone who believes this. But I'm going to tell you why you're wrong. I don't believe this, obviously. And if you listen to my recent episode on Bob Weir, you you'll learn exactly what I think about Bob Weir's affiliation with Bohemian Grove. However, at the end of that episode, I put the question to you guys, what do you think of my assessment of Bobby's affiliation with Bohemian Grove? And some of you do indeed believe that the Grateful Dead was far more involved with the CIA's efforts than I do. And that the Dead were in fact knowing participants in MK Ultra, the CIA's PSYOP to counter and discredit the impact of the hippie movement. As a quick refresher, MKUltra was a top secret illegal human experimentation program conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency from 1953 through the early 1970s. It is a documented fact, guys, that the CIA, through its MK Ultra program used willing, and I repeat the word willing participants Americans to experiment on with LSD and other drugs to test the drug's effectiveness when it came to mind control. Basically. And many now notable Americans signed up to be guinea pigs for this project. Okay? Whitey Bulger when he was at Alcatraz. The Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski, author Ken Kesey and Grateful Dead lyricist Robert Hunter, those are facts. But what's less proven but believable is that the CIA used Americans on the fringe of society, sex workers, homeless and transient men, for their drug tests as well, supposedly discarding these individuals once their brains were properly scrambled by the drugs and their usefulness had run its course. Okay, and then there's the nearly proven but not totally locked down theory that the CIA had roped in ex con Charles Manson, roped him into their MK Ultra program, and that they weren't only experimenting on him, but we're using him and his wackadoo hippie dippy bullshit to discredit the hippie movement. I happen to believe this Manson theory, or at least part of it. But what I don't believe is that the Grateful Dead's band members were willing and active participants with the CIA. And the CIA's, the agency's efforts in the 60s, whatever those efforts may have been, and that the band was, or is, as some have claimed, a quote, unquote, psyop. Now, you can go on Reddit, you can read extensively about this. You can read about it elsewhere, okay? There are lots of elements of this theory, but the least batshit crazy, believable version of this theory is that Robert Hunter, again the Dead's lyricist, his participation in the acid tests, which you can hear about in our Grateful Dead Part 1 episode, proves that the band were CIA affiliated. I can kind of see that. Okay, and again, this is the least batshit version of this Grateful Dead as a psyop theory, which I don't believe, by the way. I'm just giving it to you, okay? The theory also states that as the band matured and their troubles with the law progress, arrests on the road, fans who went missing, deaths at their shows in the 1970s and the 80s, that Grateful Dead band members became compromised and in an attempt to keep themselves out of jail, began working for the federal government. The CIA using their music to affect mind control on the masses. Some sort of mass hypnosis to dumb down liberal American youth. I find this theory to be funny as shit. Okay, wait, I forgot the best part. That Bob Weir and Mickey Hart's affiliation with Bohemian Grove supposedly ends up proving this conspiracy in the end. Okay, forget about that. That's important. And also so does the lyric from the Dead song, US Blues. It goes, uncle Sam, that's who I am. Been hanging out in a rock and roll band. These are some of the. This is all some of the so called truth that the theorists, conspiracy theorists believe. The more I learn about this conspiracy Theory, the more I love it, okay? And also the more I hate it. I love it because it's so absurd that it's actually comical. Because once you get to know the character of the individual band members from researching them or, you know, from diving deep into their music, being a fan, whatever, it becomes obvious that the Grateful Dead were physically, mentally, intellectually, and spiritually unable to work on any level with authority figures of any kind. Jerry Garcia would have marched himself off to the gallows smiling before he'd work with the federal government on any effort to harm anyone. Never mind Deadheads. On the other hand, I hate this theory because it totally discredits the actual Grateful Dead CIA conspiracy theory that I believe is true. And that's that the Dead unknowingly. That the Grateful Dead unknowingly was used and manipulated by the CIA into influencing American youth through LSD proliferation. And in a lot of ways, the result of this was that a benevolent counterculture was created that otherwise wouldn't have existed without the CIA's malevolent efforts. Okay, how's that for irony? Again, more on that in episode one. And this is the problem with conspiracy theorists. They go so far that they discredit themselves. The less juicy version of this theory is actually supported by the facts. The theory that I just stated and that I believe will one day be proven. But to make this case, you got to work your way through a sea of eye rolls that stem from the ludicrous claims of the juicier version of the theory. Okay, Isn't it enough to believe that the Grateful Dead soundman Bear Ousley was a likely CIA asset or a pawn of the CIA and that his efforts directly influenced the ban on behalf of the agency? Do we have to go all the way to Jerry and Bob? We're using LSD to implant false memories into deadheads, man. Cornell77 never happened, man. Scarlet Pagoni is never get played, dude. You let the CIA stash trick you and everyone else into thinking that they were at a show that never took place. That's a good one. Look that one up. There's literally a theory that claims that the Dead live album in the show, the actual show, Cornell from 1977. Cornell 77. There's a theory that. That the show never took place and that the Grateful Dead, along with the CIA, wanted to. What's the term? Memory hole their fans into believing that they actually attended an event that didn't happen as a. As a means to test out the mind control capabilities of lsd. It's a Good one. It's a good one. Worth looking up again, like I said. But this, this, this offends me on a, on a personal level because Cornell 77 is my favorite, favorite recording of, of any recording of the Grateful Dead. Now, what doesn't offend me are the rays of truth shining through all of this conspiracy muck. My cynicism around the Grateful Dead MK Ultra theory does not extend to Charles Manson. Manson's relationship with the federal government and the absolute bogus pile of lies that we were fed about Helter Skelter is, for many reasons, much more plausible to me. And it's occurring to me now as I write this, that for as much as I've written about Charles Manson here in Disgraceland, I've never fully explored the MK Ultra angle. And that maybe that's, that's something we should dive into somehow in an episode or something. Another story connected to MK ULTRA in music history and the Grateful Dead that I'm super interested in is about the musicians from Laurel canyon in the 1960s who were supposedly linked to military intelligence and used by the CIA to discredit and control, supposedly control the hippie movement. These musicians, these pop stars, they were the sons and daughters of military men. Again, big time rock stars. Frank Zappa, Stephen Stills, Jackson Brown. More. This theory is one that has always, always fascinated me. I have never looked into it. I should. I am. I will. Seth and I are gonna gonna dig into the story in more detail in the exclusive all access section of this after party. Go to discretesandpod.com to sign up. Five bucks will unlock this exclusive content and more. Plus ad free listening. All right, this whole conversation about MK Ultra, the CIA and the dead were OB. Obviously talking about this because of the Bob Weir episode in the feed this week. Check that out if you have not already. Along with our two other episodes on the Grateful Dead. And for more on the subject of the CIA mucking up the lies of our rock stars, we've got our Bob Marley episode coming at you in our rewind slot right after this after party next week on Tuesday, part two of our In Excess story hits. And look In Excess. They're not the band that we thought they were. Or at least their origins. Their origins. You know, for a band that sort of personified this sort of like pretty pop star 80s thing, they come from just, you know, ultra violence. It's incredible. The world, the scene, the Australian music scene that these guys came from and what they became. You kind of get it with acdc. You're like, oh, I get how these guys were part of a tough scene back home. It's more counterintuitive with inxs, obviously some incredible bands from down under. Inxs, ac, DC to just name a few. And it occurred to me that we often limit our view of consequential rock bands to just the United States and England. But obviously there are great bands from all over. So when you're listening to the INXS episode, be thinking about great groups from elsewhere and get at me and let me know what which international artists bands not from the United States or from England? Let me know which international group or musical artists you think has had the most impact on popular culture. Is it In Excess? Is it acdc? Is it Bad Bunny? Is it? I don't know, Is it? I was going to say the Undertones, but it's not the Undertones. Who is it Neil Young from Canada who? Let me know which international artist has influenced us the most. Let me know your thoughts. 617-906-6638 voicemail and text Disgracelandpod on the socials I'm gonna take a quick break. I'll be back after this with your voicemails, text, DMs and more. New Year, New Me. Cute, but how about New Year, New Money? With Experian, you can actually take control of your finances. Check your FICO score, find ways to save and get matched with credit card offers, giving you time to power through those New Year's goals you know you're going to crush. Start the year off right. Download the Experian app based on FICO scoring model offers an approval not guaranteed. Eligibility requirements and terms apply subject to credit check, which may impact your credit scores. Offers not available in all states. See experian.com for details.
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Jake Brennan
Feel, feel, feel, feel my he. I've been walking around all week singing that to the annoyance of my wife and kids Because I got Boogie Nights on the brain, guys. Because you know what today is today or this week, I should say is the release of our newest episode of our new video podcast. This Film should be Played Loud, our show that looks at the convergence of music and film. Great soundtracks from the greatest movies. And we've got a doozy of a release this week. Our new episode is on the great Paul Thomas Anderson movie Boogie Nights. This was a blast to record. I learned that Zeth takes performance enhancing drugs and that Walter Egan wasn't in Steely Dan, which begs the question, who the hell was Walter Egan? And Zeth learned all about the connection between Reed Rothschild and the Rothschild's Eyes Wide Shut conspiracy theory. All right, you're not going to want to miss this. Here's a clip.
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Zeth Lundy
PTA worked with this music supervisor on this movie.
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Jake Brennan
Yes.
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Zeth Lundy
In order to get this the way that it is. Her name's Karen Rackman and she. She kind of has a fascinating backstory. I just wanted to get into this for a second here. Her credits before this included she did Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Reality Bites, some other movies before she gets in here. And her sort of origin is that Tarantino was making Reservoir Dogs and he wrote that scene with the Steelers Wheel song in it. Stuck in the middle with you. He wrote that with that song in mind. And he was having a really hard time getting Jerry Rafferty and the other guy to let him use the song because one of them was. Was hardcore Christian. Didn't want it. In this scene with all this violence and stuff. He meets this woman, Karen Rackman, and she's like, hang on, I'll deal with it. And she goes and she sweet talks to those guys, gets them to green light the song. And Quentin Tarantino was like, you're gonna supervise my whole movie. And then brings her on board for Pulp Fiction. And then she goes on to this.
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Jake Brennan
Where did Quentin Tarantino meet Karen Rackman? Do we have any idea?
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Zeth Lundy
I don't have an idea. I don't have that. That level of information because I just
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Jake Brennan
did a little snooping on the Internet in the interwebs here. And you know who Karen Rackman's brother is who? Ricky Rackman, Headbangers Ball. No way. Yes. Ricky Rackman back on the Headbangers Ball. It's my birthday show of Headbangers Ball tonight.
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Zeth Lundy
I. I don't know why I always thought Ricky Rackman's last name was actually fake.
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Jake Brennan
Just.
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Zeth Lundy
It sounds like a stage name.
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Jake Brennan
I always thought Ricky Rackman was Casey Kasum's kid, and I'm still. I'm still not convinced otherwise because they're kind of the same. He's a younger version of him. I thought that way anyways. I love that. But yeah, Ricky Rackman's sister. So pretty legendary. I mean, come on. Like, what? List those movies again that she's a music supervisor for. Those who don't know what a music supervisor is, they're essentially. The buck stops with them on music in the film, aside from the director, because the buck stops with the director on everything in a film. But the music supervisor is in charge of not only getting the. The soundtrack figured out and the lice, the songs license for the movie, for the needle drops, but also handling the composer, basically everything. I mean, it didn't really start as that, but that's what it's kind of become, right? And. And it sounds like she just kind of got pulled into this by. By Tarantino and this career just. She made this happen for herself with Reservoir Dogs. And then what was the next one she did?
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Zeth Lundy
Pulp Fiction, Reality Bites, Clueless, Get Shorty, Basketball Diaries, Romeo and Juliet, Office Space. She essentially. I think you guys argue that she. Yeah, Boogie Nights. Of course. I think you could argue that she kind of changed movie soundtracks forever. I feel like there's a before and after these 90s soundtracks, don't you think?
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Jake Brennan
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. Office Space. Damn, it feels good to be a gang. Exactly. We got to do that one. All right, Karen Rackman. Got a pour one out for Karen Rackman. I feel. I feel. I'm ashamed that I haven't ever come across this name before. All right, guys, you want to watch or listen to this film should be played loud. You can do so through patreon. Go to disgraceandpod.com, become an all access member at the Sound in Fury level, and then jump into the chat with the rest of us discos and let us know what you think. Or you can just call me at 617-906-6638. Just like this voicemail from the 727.
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Alex
Hey, Jake, this is Alex from the 727. I've become a fan of Manic Street Preachers the past few years, and I was wondering if you've ever done an episode on the member of Manic Street Preachers that disappeared years. Think it would be a really fascinating episode. Anyway, keep it up. You're my favorite podcast. Peace.
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Jake Brennan
Alex, thanks for the call, man. I have not. Richie Edwards is who you're talking about from Manic Spree Preachers. We got close to doing a whole season paying, Lindsay and I. That was going to be the season we did of Dead and Gone, but it ended up being the Grateful Dead. And then we're thinking about it for season two. And then I actually had talks with some studios about a limited television series, but it never went anywhere. So it's kind of been on the burner here for a while. Something we're absolutely going to get into at some point. It's a fascinating and sad story. I should really dive into Manic Street Preachers musically as a band. I never really have. Maybe that'll inspire, motivate me, I should say, to get into telling this story. Thanks for the call. Appreciate you, Alex. All right, let's check out this voicemail from the916.
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Alex
Jake, this is Mr. Taylor from Raleigh, North Carolina, and I just finished the Mia Zapata episode, and it was great. But I was struck by the fact that on multiple occasions you referenced Mia's privileged upbringing growing up in a penthouse overlooking Central Park. And it reminds me of growing up in the 90s, when authenticity was often weaponized against musicians. Hip hop artists were criticized for not being real gangsters, Right? Which is absurd. The idea that largely suburban white kids would regularly criticize black artists for not being gangster enough. I remember people slamming Nirvana's unplugged performance because Kurt used an electric guitar on the man who Stole the World to get that haunting Nick Ronson sound. And to this day, I still hear people hate on the Strokes because Julian Casablanca's father was a rich and powerful fashion executive, as though that had any impact on the incredible music they wrote. So what is it about music fans that we demand authenticity? Are we asking too much of our musicians that they continue destructive behavior? I mean, I'm sure many of us have said some version of the old line, they were better before they got clean. As if being a junkie makes you a better guitarist. So I mean, this idea that trauma and destructive behavior are the key themes behind this podcast, we know that without it, we wouldn't have this amazing show and these stories. But why are music fans so critical of musicians who aren't harnessing real Trauma. Is the music better if it comes from people who are self destructive? I'm just curious to hear your take on this. Appreciate all the hard work. Rock and roll, though.
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Jake Brennan
Hey, fantastic call. Thank you. Lot to lot to get into on Mia Zapata and on our mentioning of her privileged background. I hope that wasn't. I don't think you were. I don't think you took that as we're being critical of her or claiming that she was inauthentic because of her privileged background. I just think it was mentioned as a point of fact because it obviously is a contrast between the life she lived as a musician and was living as a musician and the themes and some of the. Some of the themes in her music, et cetera. You would not expect that somebody from privilege would have that point of view. And I think you can say the same thing about a lot of artists. And I wasn't. We weren't discrediting her in any way because of that. Not that I necessarily think that was your point, but after playing the Message, I could see some people hearing it and taking that as your point. So I just wanted to clarify that, you know, I don't know. I don't. To answer your question about why there's such a fervor, such why fans are so demanding that their artists be authentic. I think in a lot of ways rock and roll is born of feral authenticity. And all the great movements in popular music, whether it's blues, country, punk, grunge, hip hop, there, there's. There's always this hardcore authenticity at the center of it in ways that isn't necessarily represented in other elements of society in Hollywood, in. In politics, in sports and rock and roll. In a lot of ways, popular music, I should say in a lot of ways kind of cornered the market culturally on authenticity. And I think that leads. That has led to the demand. I have never been one of these people. I loved the Strokes when they came out, excuse me. And I was smart enough to know that a lot of the. A lot of the DC hardcore bands. I'm going to name any names that I. That I was into growing up or even some of the New York hardcore bands or like the Beastie Boys or whomever like that these guys came from families that were, you know, of a different class and the family that I came from. And that was part of the reason. I mean, certainly the Beast, Beastie Boys, for example, you know, if. If their parents weren't who they were. And I'm not saying that, you know, their parents were Julian Casablancas parents. But, you know, I didn't. I, you know, Mike D's mom was like a famous art dealer. You know what I mean? Like who their parents were directly impacted, who the Beastie Boys became. I'm not going to besmirch them for that in any way, but I don't know. I hope I answered your question on the authenticity piece. I hope I did. I just think that historically we have looked to rock and roll with a higher standard when it comes to the concept of authenticity than we do other elements of our culture. And that's why fans are so demanding of it. Hope that answered your question. Thanks for calling. Appreciate it. Keep calling back 480-writes in. I received my T shirt today. It's perfect. Thanks so much. You got it. See, guys? I told you I was going to send those T shirts out. The Merchant merch. Not everybody got T shirts. Some people got merch stickers, pins. But yeah, everything went out. I think I got one to mail that I have not mailed. For some reason I can't actually remember. Oh, I know why. Because I had the wrong size and I gotta get the right size and send that out. What are these? What's, what's up with this merch you're sending Jake? That's what some of you might be asking. Well, listen, you know, leave a review of the show on Apple Podcasts or Spotify and, you know, you might get some free merch if I happen to read your review here on the show. We want the reviews because the reviews help power the show. They help with discovery. I've been saying this for years. You all know what I'm talking about. Meek and me over on Apple Podcasts. Meek and me. Text me 617-906-6638. We'll figure out your issue, okay? Promise. WhiskeyMe000 over on Spotify writes great podcasts. What I hear, it's like a picture that happened. Like a dark cartoon. Dark and great storytelling. Like a dark cartoon. I love that. I love that. Like a dark cartoon. WhiskeyMe000, you're a poet. Get in touch. We'll get you some merch. 617-906-6638 got this text from Flo and the 317 who says, I would like to first thank you sincerely for the time and research it takes to run all your podcasts. They're enthusiastically composed, well read and thorough. Two things. When can we expect Amarissey or the Smith's pod? Also, you mentioned bourbons quite often. I was merely Curious if there were a few bourbons you enjoy more than others. As a chef, I can't help but pair stuff together. And when I listen to Disgraceland in particular, I like pairing a bourbon with mood of whichever pod I'm sinking my ears teeth into. Thanks for all that. You do rock a Rola. Yeah, there's a lot of bourbons that I like, I think. You know, it depends on what shape my bank account's in. But I do enjoy some Blanton's. And I try to keep at least one bottle of Blanton's in my bar here at home for when I, you know, when I'm gonna have just one bourbon. Just, just me alone with one drink that night. I'll go for a Blanton's. I like the Knob Creek rye. Not exactly bourbon, but I like their rye a lot. Can't go wrong with Woodford Reserve. I know some snobs will say otherwise. And Buffalo Trace. Buffalo Trace is a good, affordable, mid, mid level affordable bourbon. And you know, I've had some Van Winkles in my time too, and Tasty damn tasty. So there you go. I'd love to talk more bourbon. Anyone else want to talk about bourbon? Hit me up. I don't want to pretend that I know a lot about it. I don't. I basically just gave you my whole all of my knowledge as somebody who's been done a bourbon tour before, not a lot of it stuck and you can probably guess why. But if anyone, any of you are bourbon connoisseurs, get in touch. I'd love to learn more from talking to you all about it. 617-906-6638 Voicemail and text to get in touch. Disgracelandpod on the socials Colton over on Spotify says let's hear about the Doors. Well, we do have a Doors episode for you, Colton. You can check that out over on Instagram. Too Weird to Live, Too Rare to Die Comments that hey, Laurel Canyon, it's pretty straightforward and that's in reference to our Bob Weir episode. And you can hear more about Laurel Canyon in our exclusive section of this after party. As I mentioned before, Moose Falcon over on Instagram as well also writes in relationship to Bob Weir's Bohemian Grove Affiliation. This ticked me off like no other. Never could stomach this dude. After finding this out and I had hundreds of hours by this band on record, the whole I'm Uncle Sam, that's who I am. Hiding out in a rock and roll band in plain sight. Jerry talks about working with the government and new clippings in the insert CD of Dick's pick 72 from Maryland with the crab on the front. And it just blew me away. I love Jerry and Phil, but something about Bobby just pisses me off and I have no control over it. Hey, what, what. What is this? What is this about Jerry talking about working with the government? Get back at me, Moose Falcon. Let me know. Marlo Stanfield 420 writes, Bobby was a great man that did positive things to help the world. Why are you trying to bash him? Well, you see, Marlowe Stanfield four two zero, despite your. Your wire reference in your. In your title. Dude, I'm not bashing Bob Weir even in the slightest. I'm asking questions. I'm curious, dude. Curious. All right, guys, at Disgraceland Pod on the socials. You want to have a conversation there, I guess we can do it there, but it's better to just hit me up on the cell. 617-906-6638. Voicemail and text. Talk about anything you want. I'll be back after this with your emails. Freddie Glover emails us saying, hey, died too young. I've been listening to you since you started. Appreciate all the time you and the crew behind the scenes do. But anyways, how about a Cliff Burton from Metallica episode? Appreciate, y'. All. Freddy, my man. Freddy. Freddy. We've got a Cliff Burton from Metallica episode. It's in the archive. Go check that out. You're gonna dig it. Dan Kearns writes in with a hall of fame tease. Here in the email Jake says, hey Dan from the 818 and OG disco from Drop One even through the Amazon era. Google Brian Harvey slash House of Freaks and check out what happened to him and his wife and two daughters. I was at the Freaks debut LP release party in LA where they played a scorching set and I was hooked. They were from Richmond, Virginia and came to la like so many before and after to make it. And they achieved a modicum of success and returned to Richmond, which was their goal all along. And after some years there playing locally, it happened. This should spurn you to check out what happened. Fucking brutal. B R U T A L all caps. The only aspect of this story that might keep it from Disgraceland is that HOF were fairly obscure, but believe me, in LA they were hot. DK Dan, obscurity does not scare me. If. If this is truly a compelling story, I will dig into it. Does anyone else know about House of Freaks? Let me know. I'm gonna dig into this. I'm Gonna make a note right now because this sounds very interesting. Appreciate you, Dan. 617-906-6638 voicemail and text. Or you can email me disgraceandpodmail.com Send in your recommendations for future episodes, or hit me with anything you gu about. All right, Matt, you know what? I want to talk about this. Get ready. All right, listen. This. This is the 60 second sports rant in under 30 seconds sponsored by 5 Hour Energy and the return of their Confetti Craze flavor. Bring big birthday energy wherever you go with this plan. Your Confetti craze party at www.fivehourenergy.com or Amazon. Available now. Listen, I heard this the other day and it upset me to no end. Do you realize that the Boston Red Sox that their lineup going in to spring training in the 2026 season could, could, could include the following Roman Anthony, Alex Bregman, Rafael Devers. Right? All the Red Sox had to do is basically nothing except spend a little bit of money. And I'm not talking about Dodgers money. I'm not talking about Mets, Mets money, Yankees money. I'm not even talking about Blue Jays money. Just a, don't trade Raffy Devers for basically nothing in return. Maybe instead try applying a little humility to the relationship that you messed up and B, give Alex Bregman the no trade clause that he wanted in a competitive offer instead. The Red Sox have to be too clever by half. You can't win championships in the MLB by being too clever by half without stacked stars in your lineup. That means you have to spend money. You can't even compete in the postseason without spending money. This isn't the NFL. Parody does not play into it. This is gross is what it is. It's depressing. Roman Anthony, Alex Bregman, Rafi Devers. Imagine that. That's Manny Ramirez, David Ortiz, Johnny Damon level. It's a bum out, man. It's a bum out. Matt. How'd I do? A minute and a half, Jake.
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Zeth Lundy
And since we're talking baseball, just want to say RIP To Bill Mazeroski, who
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Jake Brennan
brought us one of the greatest World Series moments ever in 1960.
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Zeth Lundy
The Yinzers know who I'm talking about.
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Jake Brennan
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Zeth Lundy
8th, and you do need to be
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Jake Brennan
a member of Patreon, but you can even be a free member. So come over to Patreon, check out what we're doing, start a free membership and vote on the Oscars. All right, speaking of Patreon, speaking of the all access portion of Disgraceland, we are going to get into our Laurel Canyon military industrial complex pop star disinformation music history campaign in the exclusive section of this afterparty where Zeth and I will break this all down. Go to disgraceandpod.com to sign up to become an all Access member now. So you can hear that. All right, welcome. Welcome, guys. As always mentioned, a bunch of Disgraceand episodes here in this episode. A couple that come to mind. The Doors, Metallica. Matt will have the episode information in the show notes so you can easily navigate your way to those episodes should you want to listen to them. Gonna recap real quick. All right, number one, this week, our new episode on Bob Weir, part three of our Grateful Dead saga. That's available for you right now. Number two, got a rewind episode coming up right after this on Bob Marley. Next week, our part two episode on In Excess. Number four, Zeth gives you those Hollywoodland and crime vibes over in Hollywoodland, so make sure you're subs. Listen our. Our new episode on this film should be played loud. It's available for you right now. We're discussing Boogie Nights. You're not going to want to miss that. Go to disgraceandpod.com to sign up to become an All Access member so you can. You can watch and listen to. This film should be played loud. Number 661-7906, 6638. Your voice keeps us digging into the dark corners of music history. So keep calling texting with your answers to this week's question of the week or whatever else you want to talk about. Number seven, don't forget discos. This isn't just content, it's a community. A community of the obsessed. And no one cares about music, books, records, and the crime and grime. It ties them all together like you do, and, well, that's a disgrace. All right. The CIA's favorite PSYOP. I'm kidding. Jerry Garcia from the Grateful dead died on August 9, 1995. And this was what America was listening to on that day. According to the billboard charts. Number one, Waterfalls by TLC last week, one peak position one weeks on chart 11th. Number two, Kiss from a Rose Seal last week two peak position two weeks on chart nine. Number three, Bombastic in the Summertime. Shaggy last week four peak position three weeks on chart 14. Number four, One More Chance. Stay with Me, the Notorious VIG last week five peak position two weeks on chart nine. Number five, Colors of the Wind from Pocahontas. Vanessa Williams Last week position five weeks on sharp nine. Number six, Quit talking and start mixing. Cut it.
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