Bonus Episode: The Mount Rushmore of Guitarists

Summary

Disgraceland Bonus Episode: The Mount Rushmore of Guitarists

Release Date: May 8, 2025

In this engaging bonus episode of Disgraceland, hosted by Jake Brennan and his co-host from Double Elvis Productions, the focus shifts to celebrating the legends of guitar playing. Titled “The Mount Rushmore of Guitarists,” the episode delves deep into the legacies of iconic guitarists, listener opinions, and upcoming discussions on music legends like Prince. Below is a detailed summary capturing all key points, discussions, insights, and conclusions from the episode.

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1. Introduction to the Afterparty Segment ([02:49])

Jake Brennan kicks off the bonus episode by introducing the “afterparty” concept—a bridge between full-length Disgraceland episodes. This segment aims to provide additional content, including previews, listener interactions, and behind-the-scenes insights.

Jake Brennan:
"Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the afterparty... we're talking about Van Halen Part Two, previewing our coming part two episode on Prince, talking Rat Fink Blues in the Hollywoodland minute, and we get into your voicemails, texts DMs, emails, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie."

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2. Van Halen Part Two Discussion ([03:30] - [09:32])

The conversation primarily revolves around Van Halen, especially following the passing of Eddie Van Halen in October 2020. Jake emphasizes Eddie's irreplaceable talent and reflects on recent performances by former bandmate David Lee Roth.

Key Points:

• Eddie Van Halen’s Legacy:
  Jake asserts that Eddie’s unique guitar prowess cannot be replicated.
  "There's no replacing Eddie Van Halen. There was no one like him before we took the stage. And there will never be another like him now that he's gone." ([04:00])

• David Lee Roth’s Recent Performance:
  Roth performed Van Halen songs with a new lineup, which Jake found surprisingly impressive despite lacking Eddie’s signature magic.
  "Roth Van Halen sold 57 million. Hagar Van Halen with 27 million... I love Van Halen." ([09:32])

• Fan Reception and Future Reunions:
  Jake discusses the challenges and potential backlash of any future Van Halen reunions, emphasizing that Eddie’s absence leaves a void that cannot be filled.

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3. Previewing the Upcoming Prince Episode ([10:00] - [13:00])

Jake introduces the next major topic—Prince—in a two-part episode format. He encourages listeners to consider which artists best encapsulated their era’s musical spirit.

Discussion Points:

• Greatest Musicians of All Time:
  Questions posed include, "Was Prince the greatest musician of all time?" and comparisons with legends like Stevie Wonder and Nirvana.
  "Whether it was Prince with 'Sign of the Times' or Public Enemy with 'Fight the Power,' which artists best represented their times?" ([13:00])

• Listener Engagement:
  Jake invites listeners to submit their thoughts via calls, texts, and voicemails, fostering an interactive community.

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4. Listener Voicemails: Mount Rushmore Selections ([16:56] - [19:32])

Several listeners share their picks for the “Mount Rushmore of Guitarists,” providing diverse perspectives and highlighting the show's community engagement.

Highlighted Voicemails:

• Clint from 573 ([16:56] - [17:21]):
  "Prince, Dimebag Darrell, Eddie Van Halen, and Randy Rhodes."
  Jake’s Response: Appreciates the inclusion of Prince and Randy Rhodes, noting the absence of Jimi Hendrix.

• Clint from 724 ([17:54] - [18:22]):
  "Eddie Van Halen, Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, and Roy Clark."
  Jake’s Response: Expresses interest in Roy Clark and his influence, acknowledging he wasn't previously familiar.

• Caller from 904 ([18:42] - [19:32]):
  "Eddie Van Halen, Jimmy Page, Jimi Hendrix, and Angus Young."
  Jake’s Response: Reminisces about Angus Young’s impact and discusses the importance of Malcolm Young's role in ACDC.

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5. Listener Email: The Cars and Little Richard Censorship ([30:10] - [36:19])

Jake addresses an email from Paul C., a listener from near Boston, who inquires about potential episodes on The Cars and questions the censorship in the Little Richard episode.

Key Responses:

• The Cars Episode:
  Jake acknowledges the oversight and commits to future episodes focusing on Boston bands like The Cars and possibly Journey.

• Censorship of Little Richard:
  Explains that the decision to censor certain parts was an editorial choice due to the disturbing nature of the content.
  "It was an editorial decision, creative decision, and that's why we did it." ([36:19])

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6. Hollywoodland Minute and Archive Highlights ([31:44] - [33:45])

Jake promotes his other podcast, Hollywoodland, featuring true crime stories related to Hollywood figures. He highlights upcoming episodes on Will Smith and Tim Allen, encouraging listeners to explore over 40 archived episodes.

Jake Brennan:
"Before we get out of here, see what archive episodes we've got waiting for you. Stuff that we discussed or referenced or hinted at in this bonus episode..."

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7. Sports Rant and Final Thoughts ([33:45] - [41:24])

In a brief segment, Jake shifts to a personal rant about the Red Sox, expressing frustration over team decisions and the need for immediate success.

Key Points:

• Red Sox Performance:
  Criticizes the team's handling of player Tristan Cassis and the management of promising minor players like Roman Anthony.
  "The Red Sox need to get off their ass and they need to actually start to think about their audience, their fans. We want to see winning now, okay?"

• General Sports Commentary:
  Jake shares his thoughts on the competitive nature of baseball and the importance of field performance over future planning.

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8. Closing and Recap ([41:07] - End)

Jake concludes the episode by summarizing key takeaways and reminding listeners about upcoming content, including the next Prince episode and the continuation of series on hip-hop legends.

Final Remarks:

• Subscription and Membership Encouragement:
  Urges listeners to subscribe, leave reviews, and consider becoming All Access members for exclusive content.

• Upcoming Content Preview:
  Highlights future episodes on Slick Rick, Prince Part Two, and various archived topics related to legendary guitarists and hip-hop icons.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• On Replacing Eddie Van Halen:
  "There's no replacing Eddie Van Halen. There was no one like him before we took the stage. And there will never be another like him now that he's gone." ([04:00])

• On David Lee Roth’s Performance:
  "David Lee Roth can put on a classic show, and that was fully on display the other night." ([05:30])

• Listener Clint from 573’s Mount Rushmore Picks:
  "Prince, Dimebag Darrell, Eddie Van Halen, and Randy Rhodes." ([16:56])

• Jake on David Lee Roth’s Authenticity:
  "Dave, go out there, be your authentic schlocky self. Entertain the hell out of us with those incredible songs." ([19:32])

• Responding to Paul’s Email on Censorship:
  "It was an editorial decision, creative decision, and that's why we did it." ([36:19])

• On the Red Sox’s Need for Immediate Success:
  "We want to see winning now, okay? They have the money, they have the talent. They need to stop playing everything for the future." ([37:30])

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Conclusion

This bonus episode of Disgraceland enriches the listener experience by blending in-depth discussions on legendary guitarists with active audience participation. Through heartfelt analysis, engaging listener voicemails, and candid responses to feedback, Jake Brennan and his co-host create a dynamic and interactive environment that celebrates the enduring spirit of rock and its icons. As they navigate through the legacies of musicians like Eddie Van Halen and Prince, the hosts also emphasize the unique contributions each artist has made to the ever-evolving landscape of music history.

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For those who haven't listened yet, "The Mount Rushmore of Guitarists" offers a captivating exploration of guitar legends, their indelible marks on music, and the passionate community that keeps their memories alive. Whether you're a die-hard fan or new to the true crime and music history blend, this episode promises insightful and entertaining content that will leave you eager for more.

Transcript

[Jake Brennan]

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[Co-host]

Yeah, me too.

[Jake Brennan]

This is the podcast that comes after the podcast.

[Co-host]

Welcome to Disgraceland.

[Jake Brennan]

The afterparty. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the afterparty. This is the show after the show, the party after the party, the bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt on this bonus episode, we are talking about Van Halen Part two. We are previewing our coming part two episode on Prince. We're talking Rat Fink Blues in the Hollywoodland minute and we get into your voicemails, text DMs, emails, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. All right, discos, let's get into it. All right, so back on March 26, 2024, we released our first episode on Van Halen. Eddie had been dead for a while at that point. He passed back in October 2020. There is, of course, no continuation of Van Halen. There were rumors that somehow the band was going to continue with Eddie's son Wolfgang, and Dave was going to be back in the frontman slot, or that Sammy was coming back, or that Nuno Betancourt from Extreme was stepping in to replace Eddie and that that meant that Gary was going to join. I don't, I don't know. Here's what I do know. There's no replacing Eddie Van Halen. There was no one like him before we took the stage. And there will never be another like him now that he's gone. So we released our two part episode on Van Halen this week, on Tuesday. But this past weekend, something remarkable happened. Eddie Van Halen's former foil and bandmate and sometime enemy, David Lee Roth took the stage. Not with Van Halen and not to perform hits from his solo career, but with an entirely different group of musicians to perform a set of only Van Halen songs, Bangers. And in typical David Lee Roth fashion, it rocked. Surprisingly, I guess. I mean, I said it's typical, but I shouldn't have said that because there's been some really uneven David Lee Roth stuff over the past few years. Now, the band that he was fronting, it of course, didn't have the Van Halen magic, but the songs that were performed in the Cradle Will Rock, Jamie's Crying, Running with the Devil, Atomic Punk, Drop Dead Legs, Ain't Talking About Love, Hot For Teacher, and Of course, Jump. They were so great. I mean, I watched a bunch of this. It was awesome. Okay? These songs are incredible songs. They can survive without the magic, I think, is what I'm saying. The magic is, of course, gone. With no Eddie, with no Van Halen. And it's been gone since the mid-80s. Those Van Halen reunions were abominations. And yet again, this was not Van Halen, but it was a group of more than competent musicians giving David Lee Roth just enough of what he needed to go out there and entertain the hell out of a pavilion full of people in Maryland or Delaware or wherever the hell they were. And after seeing Dave do this on these videos over the Internet all weekend, I gotta admit, I kind of wished that I was one of those people in the crowd. Unlike the Van Halen reunion shows that I've seen in these videos, David Lee Roth looks stoked. He looks happy to be there. He doesn't look like he's putting it on. He doesn't look like he's faking it, you know, and of course, he's super old. It doesn't matter. His natural and abundant charisma. It's contagious. And yeah, it's super schlocky and probably has more to do with Las Vegas than it does with Van Halen, but that doesn't mean it isn't entertaining. And, oh, by the way, David Lee Roth always seemed like a dude who was going to end up in Las Vegas anyway. He always had that old school Rat Pack entertainer vibe. It was. It was hard to see underneath all that hair and it, you know, got obscured, I guess, by the pecs and the splits. But David Lee Roth can put on a classic show, and that was fully on display the other night. And I hope that he keeps on doing it. You know, I'm using this opportunity this week because of our van Halen Part 2 episode to just say that I hope that this continues. And I have no illusions that it's going to be Van Halen or it's going to be as good as Van Halen or it's going to be as magical as Van Halen. It's not going to be any of those things, but that doesn't mean it can't be fucking cool. That doesn't mean it can't be fun. And I honestly hope that I'm more interested in this happening. David Lee Roth playing Van Halen songs without Van Halen than I am with David Lee Roth reuniting with Alex Van Halen and Michael Anthony and. And Without Eddie. Because of course, if you'll excuse me, that would be a disgrace. It just would not be cool. No matter who they get to replace again, you can't replace Eddie Van Halen, okay? Just Dave, go out there, be your authentic schlocky self. Entertain the hell out of us with those incredible songs. Make us all feel like we're in an 80s teen movie, ripping the strip in a convertible, got a heater in the ashtray, a road soda between our legs, a babe riding shotgun or something like that. You know, I can get with that. You know, I was going to talk about Sammy Hagar in this episode because that's what our full episode deals with this week. It deals with the Sammy era, I guess you could call it more than it does the Dave era. And I was going to talk about my newfound appreciation for Sammy Hagar, my late onset Sammy Hagar appreciation. Speaking of old dudes, I saw Sammy Hagar on a video this morning with Alice Cooper, ripping it up over the weekend and it did not suck. It's hysterical. And in some weird way, Sammy Hagar has got me interested in Jimmy Buffett. I know, I know. Hold your fire. I think I'm going to do a Jimmy Buffett episode at some point. But anyhow, I got distracted by this David Lee Roth news. Okay. In this two part episode on Van Halen Part two, I should say it's been well received so far. I got a lot of great comments on the Spotify app, got a lot of great DMs emails. Thank you guys who have checked it out. For those of you who have not already, go ahead. It's there for you. It's waiting for you. And our rewind episode that's coming up right after this, we have our episode on another legend, a hip hop legend, Slick Rick. What's Rick doing these days? I don't know. Maybe we can, maybe we can get Rick to head out to Vegas with David Lee Roth, put together a little, a little legend show for us. I'd go see a show with Slick Rick and David Lee Roth. All right, next week, next week. What do we got next week? Next week we have another two parter, another two part episode or a part two episode coming that is new. It's the follow up to our part one episode on Prince. All right, There was way too much Prince to cover in one episode. So we get the whole story for you here coming next week and when you're listening to Prince. Okay, I think last time we talked about Prince, we got into this conversation about who the greatest dumb fucking question, but it's a good one. Just greatest musician of all time. I think that's what we were talking about. Or greatest pop star of all time or musician, technically gifted pop star. So I forget how we qualified it. Prince obviously came up. Stevie. Stevie Wonder came up. We've talked about before, you know, speaking of Van Halen, we've talked about, you know, is Prince one of the greatest guitar players of all time? We're going to get into that later here, that greatest guitar player conversation. We'll get into that later in the episode with your DMs and your texts and your voicemails. But this time, for this Part 2 Prince episode, when you're listening to it, I want you guys to be thinking about which artists best nailed their moment. Okay? Was it Prince with Sign of the Times? All right, you know what I'm talking about here. Was it Stevie Wonder with Living for the City? Marvin Gaye with what's Going On? Public Enemy with Bring the Noise or Fight the Power? Hell, everything Public Enemy did. How about Nirvana? I mean, Nirvana, Kurt Cobain nailed the time. I'd throw the strokes into this conversation. So many artists hold a mirror up to the era that they're creating in. And I want to know from you guys who did it best. Give me a call at 617-906-6638. Which artist best represented their times? Send me a text. Send me a Voice, 617-906-6638. You may hear your answer on next week's afterparty. All right, I'm going to take a quick break. I'll be hanging on the telephone with you guys. Your voicemails. 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[Malcolm Gladwell]

Hello, Hello, Malcolm Gladwell here on this season of Revisionist History. We're going where no podcast has ever gone before. In combination with my 3 year old, we defend the show that everyone else hates. I'm talking, of course, about Paw Patrol.

[Co-host]

There's some things that really piss me off when it comes to Paw Patrol.

[Jake Brennan]

It's pretty simple. It sucks. My son watches Paw Patrol. I hate it.

[Malcolm Gladwell]

Everyone hates it except for me. Plus, we investigate everything from why American sirens are so unbearably loud, to the impact of face blindness on social connection, to the secret behind Thomas English Muffins, Perfect Nooks and Crannies. And also, we go after Joe Rogan. Are you ready, Joe? I'm coming for you. You won't want to miss it. Listen to Revisionist history on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Co-host]

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[Jake Brennan]

All right, Apple podcast listeners, we are back. Make sure that you have your auto downloads turned on so you don't miss any episodes of Disgraceland. Guys, I gotta. I gotta be real with you here. I'm back at the desk talking to you guys. I've been pumped about this. I record these on Wednesdays. They come out on Thursdays. I've been pumped about this for the last few days because even though we had after parties last week and the week before, I had to record those episodes way early because last week I was traveling and the week before that, Matt, who produces our stuff for us, he was away. He was off. And when I record these things in advance, I just don't feel like I'm connecting enough with you guys. I don't know, there's something about the. The immediacy of recording them on one day, they come out the next day. You guys are up in it with me on the socials, on Patreon. We got this conversation. We're locked in. I'm pumped for that. To start anew this week because the last few weeks have been crazy and there's a lot to talk about, but I'm trying to keep these episodes tight. Trying to keep them tight for you guys, trying to keep them tight for me. But I gotta just mention this Diddy trial, it kicked off. All right, I'm gonna do this quick because there's really not much to talk about, but I'm gonna give you little updates here. Here's my plan. There will be another Diddy episode at some point. I'm not doing that until the trial's done, until we know what the hell actually happened. Okay? I'm not gonna chase this in real time. That's not what we do here. Other people do it. You may have heard some of these podcasts that I've been talking about in our feed. I'm gonna continue doing that, gonna continue bringing you sort of news ditty content that you guys might be interested in, and I'll talk about things. All that's gone on right now, if you're interested, is they're selecting the jury. That's it. It's boring. You're not missing much. There was some reference to some celebrities while they're in jury selection. See if there was any bias there. They talked about Kid Cudi. They talked about Michael P. Jordan. Michael B. Jordan, Albie Shore. Not Albie Shore, you know. You know, not. Not the basketball player Michael Jordan. The actor Michael Jordan. And strangely enough, they asked if the jury was biased against Mike Myers. Not the Halloween guy, of course, the Canadian actor from snl, which I don't understand what that's all about. Probably nothing. None of this means that any of these guys are guilty in any way. Just means that their names may come up in this trial. All right, we get any news, I'll bring it to you guys right now. There's no news, but no, in the future, there will be an epic Sean Combs Diddy episode of Disgraceland that nails the rest of this story. All right. 617-906-6638. You know where I'm at? I'm in the phone booth. It's one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone. You want to send me a voicemail or a text? That's how you do it. 617-906-6638. All right, let's hear from the 573 coming at us with their answer on who deserves to be on the Mount Rushmore of guitar players. Obviously, in reference to our Van Halen episode this week, Here we go from the 573. Hey, what's going on?

[Clint]

Disgraceland people. And Jake and the whole crew. Keep up the excellent work for your Mount Rushmore. Let's go ahead with this top four. Are there four or five presidents on Rushmore Gate? Okay, she says four. Let's go with Prince, Eddie Van Halen, Dimebag Darrell. No, wait, do that again. Prince, Dimebag Darrell, Eddie Van Halen, and then Randy Rhodes. All right, love everybody. Do it up.

[Jake Brennan]

573. I love this list. I love it even though there's no Jimi Hendrix. I feel like my list is too obvious. It's Eddie, it's Jimmy, it's Stevie Ray Vaughan, and it's probably Jimmy Page. But I love the inclusion of Prince here. I love the inclusion of Randy Rhodes. Ray Rhodes doesn't get enough sway. I don't think. I don't think he does. Anyways. 573, thanks to you and thanks to whoever you had in the background there, who you went to for your million dollar question. What does that show? I don't know, Whatever. Here we go. All right, let's hear from the 724.

[Caller]

Hey, Jake, this is Clint. I'm currently in the 724-western-PA. I got to go with Eddie Van Halen, Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page and Roy Clark. He's kind of an odd addition, but if you go back through guitar players, a lot of them reference him. And that son of a gun sure could pick a guitar. That's my list, brother. Thank you very much for what you do. Have a good weekend.

[Jake Brennan]

724. Thanks for the call. Roy Clark. I gotta admit, man, I'm not up on my Roy Clark. But now you have given me the impetus, the inciting incident to send me on my quest, my hero's journey to discover Roy Clark. Appreciate you. Thank you. 724. Let's do one more of these. This one from the 904.

[Caller]

What's up? Jake Barry from the 904. My Mount Rushmore. Eddie Van Halen, Jimmy Page, Jimi Hendrix. And drumroll please. Angus Young. Let me explain Angus. It's the image and the outfit. And he just still at his advanced age, he still brings it. And he was involved in the greatest selling rock and roll or one of the greatest selling albums of all time. Back in Black. So the three pretty, pretty much down the middle. But I think my Angus Young is a wild card. Might be a little controversy behind that, but all of those things that Angus stands for and what other band you know, usually it's the lead singer is kind of the face of the band. Angus Young is the face of ACDC and so for that I include him on my Mount Rushmore.

[Jake Brennan]

Yo 904 love this one. Angus Young was my favorite guitar player growing up. He was my guy. I rode hard for him. I got in many of many, many fights f the cuffs. Even in the park with my friends arguing over the greatest guitar player. Hugo, if you're out there, I know you know what I'm talking about. And yes, I still think Angus Young is better than Jimmy Page. But you know, Angus gets. You kind of get to this a little bit. Angus gets, I don't want to say maligned, but left off these lists because he was such a simple guitar player and I think that was part of his magic. The one thing however that I did not really embrace or think about when I was a kid and just loving acdc, even the Bon Scott era stuff when I got into that was just how important. Of course Angus's brother Malcolm was not only to the band but to Angus's guitar playing. I mean Malcolm did things that allowed Angus to do what he did and that's a very over simplified version of what was going on there. But it's almost. I guess what I'm getting at is like if you're going to put Angus up there, you need to put Malcolm looking over his shoulder perhaps. 617-90-66638 voicemail and text 304 writes in listening to part two of Van Halen I love when you get excited about a band. I'm sure you're interested in all of them but when you really are into a band, it comes through. Part one was like a prayer to your God. Nice work. Well, I mean, you know, I don't think Eddie Van Halen was a God. I love Eddie Van Halen. I truly do loved him. A guitar God perhaps. 612 writes in hey Jake, great episode on van Halen Part 2. Eddie is the king in my opinion. Although I have to disagree with Hagar being more successful and bigger than Roth Van Halen. Four number one albums are great but Roth Van Halen sold 57 million. Hagar Van Halen with 27 million. Roth Van Halen had more competition with Michael Jackson's Thriller and Def Leppard's Pyromania. I like Van Hager, but I love Van Halen. Thanks Nathan in Minneapolis. Great point, Nathan. I never consider the competition when I'm. When I'm considering album sales. Appreciate that Tony with an I write saying hey Jake, regarding your what are you into? Et cetera. Ask. Well I'm 53, I'm a female, I'm married since 1999. Decided on that date after we saw Prince Live. I turned my husband onto your show. He's a big fan. I'm going to weave this okay just because we are both very into a wide variety of music and are proud that our 22 year old daughter is as well Eileen Alt grunge, classic rock he likes the harder stuff, I don't like all the screaming corn, rage, etc. I'm more 21 pilots, panic at the Disco, Harry Styles. We love live music, we both like the boom and our car stereo is as important a feature as the brakes. He has a custom mini truck that he takes to shows. I like to hike more nature walk than mountain climbing. We both love to just hang out and binge our favorite shows and of course discuss Disgraceland episodes. Been listening since 2018, maybe 19. Who can remember? I look forward to forward to listening for years to come. Rocka Rolla from Tony in Sacramento. Tony, say hi to your man for us. Thank you so much for getting in touch telling us about yourself. Appreciate that. Sounds like you guys have a great relationship. Karen from the646 writes in She's a female photographer living in Brooklyn with an 11 year old son. Originally from the Bay Area where she was raised on raves, skateboarding, gays and Good times. My favorite things to do are work, dance, travel, check out art in museums, drink wine and party with my friends. And the biggest category of music I've been into throughout my life is alternative followed closely by Techno, house, Old School. Thank you very much. Hip hop, trip hop, 70s Funkin soul and classical. You guys have great tastes as exemplified by Karen here. Karen goes on to say that some of her favorite movies are Blade Runner, Alien, Heather's Party Girl. Party Girl's great. Parker Posey. Good choice, good choice Karen. She lists a bunch of other ones here. Favorite books and authors. The Bell Jar, the History of Junk, Annihilation, Sherlock Holmes, Margaret Atwood, Raymond Chandler. Awesome. William Gibson. Never read any Gibson. I say Gibson like I know who the hell she's talking about. I don't even know who William Gibson is, but I never read him so much more. But that's quite enough question for you. What does Whole Lotta Rosie mean? Well, thanks for asking Karen. Whole Lotta Rosie is in reference to one of my favorite songs of all time by acdc. I don't know, just a whole lot of Rosie. I just felt like saying it one day and it stuck. So there it is. You know, Bon Scott's taste as demonstrated in that song, partially aligned with my taste. So, you know, it makes sense. 617-906-6638. You guys want to get at me with next week's question of the week? We're going to be talking about which artists best represented their time in their music. Was it Prince with Sign of the Times? Was it somebody else? Get at us and let us know. And look, I'm looking to get to know all you guys, okay? Not just Karen, not just Tony. Hit me up. Let me know what you're into. I want to know what books you're reading especially. That's something that I, you know, Karen mentioned that I've been on a reading kick, a fiction kick lately and my tastes are very much. They're in the thrill crime thriller, I guess is how you would describe my tastes. James Ellroy, Richard Price. I'm reading a Richard Price book right now called Lazarus Man. It's really good. Last year I talked to you guys about this. I got on this mystery kick, kind of a whodunit kick. And I was looking at the charts. A friend of mine just released her book this week and it's going gangbusters. And it brought me to look at the charts and see how it was doing. And I realized that the only books that really sell these days are sort of in the. The murder mystery vein, you know, and the majority of people who read those books are women. It's just a fact. If you look it up, it's just a fact. Demographically, more women read those books than men. So I started asking myself, well, what do men read? And I looked it up and men read mostly history, like non fiction history. And to the extent that they're reading fiction, if there's any sort of category that correlates with women in their, their obsession with murder mystery novels, it's sort of this action thriller, Jack Reacher type of book. That ain't my thing. I like, I like this crime thriller thing that I thought was much bigger than it is. Turns out it's not that big at all. Not that big of a genre when it comes to books. So, dudes, I want to know what you like to read. Okay, let me know what types of books you like to read. And ladies, I ask the same of you as well, beyond the murder mystery or this murder mystery and what authors? Because I like that stuff and I like reading it as well. I think I'm in the minority of men who read that stuff. I could be wrong. Anyhow, this is just on my mind lately. And you know, as I get to know you guys, this is one thing I'm curious about. What are you reading? What are you guys into? All right, let me know. Disgracelandpod. You wanna hit me up there? On Instagram, on X, on Facebook, any of those places? Just like Kentucky Colonel hitting us up on X saying, hey, did not know about Tim Allen's life before comedy. Remarkable that he was able to use his talents to find funny in the middle of all that. Kentucky Colonel is of course talking about our Tim Allen episode of Hollywoodland, which we released this week and that I totally screwed up in regards to the after party. You'll hear about that in a minute. And by a minute, I mean a second right now. So we do these Easter eggs in the Hollywoodland episodes where I ask you guys a question that is specific to that episode. You go find the question, you let me know about it and then I award you in some way. However I fucked it up, I'm not even going to get into how I fucked it up. I just fucked it up. It's a ice cream headache of a problem and it has to do with me recording the episodes too early. I apologize. And so there. We have no Hollywoodland Easter egg for you this week. We will be back with it next week. Just know. Listen to Hollywoodland, okay? It's taken off over there in its own feed. We got big plans for this feed going forward. It's not just going to be an archive going forward, but in the meantime you can catch up on all of these episodes and if you have not heard any of them and you're craving for more double Elvis storytelling with me on the mic, this is your chance. Got over 40 episodes over there in the Hollywoodland feed. We got the Tim Allen one that was just referenced and we have one coming next week on Will Smith and the Slap heard round the World. It was really hard for me to bite my tongue on this episode. I don't think I really bit it at all actually. And it was when we originally produced it, I was in partnership with a media company who was at that very moment in a big time partnership with Will Smith. So it was tricky terrain to navigate, but I think we did a good job and I think I expressed how I felt and I hope you guys dig it. That's coming your way next week in the Hollywoodland feed. Listen, you know what else I hope is coming your way soon? A fucking red Sox win. All right, this is the sports rant. This is me giving you 30 seconds of my thoughts on sports. For those of you. A lot of people from Pennsylvania, by the way, and I'm wondering how many Pirates fans are out there. My kid wants a Pirates hat. We've been talking about it. Best hat in the game. Anyhow, even though the Celtics are in the playoffs right now, I'm going to take a beat on that. I'm not going to talk about the Celtics. I'm going to talk about the Red Sox because Tristan Cassis went down and there is a big, big, big hole in the lineup. Not that he was actually hitting. He wasn't, but he was supposed to bring it around. The Red Sox, they got this stud in the minors that could just, you know, everyone's saying, bring the dude up. Roman Anthony. What a name, too. Roman Anthony. Guy looks like he's about to invade the hinterland and he can swing. And they. They're not bringing him up. And they need to bring him up. The Red Sox need to get off their ass and they need to actually start to think about their audience, their fans. We want to see winning now, okay? They have the money, they have the talent. They need to stop playing everything for the future, small ball future. We need to win now. Baseball is highly competitive right now. There are some incredible teams right now, the Giants, the Mets, the Yankees, hitting the tar off the ball. And if we want to compete with those teams, we got to put our best out there on the field. Bring it. Bring the kid up. Let's fucking go. All right. That was my sports rant. I'll be back in a flash with your emails in the Hollywoodland minute.

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[Jake Brennan]

All right, we are back and you know what time it is. It's time for the Hollywoodland Minute. Brought to you by the Hollywoodland Podcast. Don't know what the Hollywoodland Podcast is? Well, the Hollywoodland Podcast is hosted by yours truly, where every week I tell you a story from the Annex of Hollywood and true crime. And right now there are over 40 episodes waiting for you to binge episodes on Robin Williams, Sean Penn, Andy Warhol, David Lynch, John Waters, Danny Trejo, Marilyn Monroe, Steve McQueen, Paris Hilton, Jane Fonda, and most recently, the very talented dude from over on the other side of the fence, Tim Allen. Here's a clip.

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The car crossed two lanes of traffic before it flipped over. The other car, traveling in the opposite direction didn't have time to get out of the way. There was no warning, no way out. Brakes squealed. Tires gnawed the pavement. The shriek of metal on metal was ear splitting and soul rally. Timothy Allen Dick didn't go with his parents and a few of his siblings to the University of Colorado football game that day. So he wasn't in the car with them when a drunk driver's car literally flopped on top of their car. His mother and siblings survived. His father, however, wasn't so lucky. He was killed in the crash. It was November 23, 1964. The Dick family of eight had suddenly become a family of seven. Tim was 11 years old. He was angry. He was angry that his father had been taken away from him. He was angry that a drunk man could crash into a sober man and that the drunk man wasn't the one to die. Life was fucking unfair like that. So what do you do when life is patently unfair? When your anger about one thing metastasizes into anger about everything? You game life. You don't listen to anyone else, especially adults, but you don't let the adults know you're not listening. You smile. You say Please, you say thank you. You sit politely at the dinner table with perfect posture, with your napkin folded neatly in your lap. You demonstrate manners that would make Emily fucking Post proud. And what the manners are just for.

[Jake Brennan]

Show because when the adults turn their backs, you take them for all they're worth.

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You Nick hooch from the liquor cabinet. You grab the keys off the kitchen counter and take the station wagon for the ride of your life. You give off the illusion that you are paying attention, following rules, listening, and being respectful. But in reality, you aren't doing anything of the sort because there's pain and anger gnawing away at your insides, and this is how you deal with it.

[Jake Brennan]

All right, guys, make sure you are subscribed to the Hollywoodland podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts next week. Like I mentioned earlier, we have our episode coming on Will Smith, and you are not going to want to miss that. All right, guys, I want to do a couple of your emails. You want to hit me up on email about anything? Disgracelandpodmail.com this one comes from Paul. Paul's subject is the Cars and Little Richard. Hey, Jake. Just wanted to write and tell you how much I love your show. I stumbled on it at work and now I'm hooked on it. Like Tyrone Biggums is hooked on crack. I don't know who Tyrone Biggums is. I'm not gonna look it up. Tyrone, if you're listening, I apologize. I also wanted to inquire why a Worcester guy, being so close to Boston, hasn't done an episode about the greatest band that ever came out of Beantown. The Cars. Aerosmith. Meh. Journey. Question mark. Maybe, but the Cars has such an awesome history that I think that it would make for some interesting material. Secondly, I'm curious as to why the Little Richard episode was so heavily censored. Redacted. You usually let it all fly on your other episodes, so why hold back on that particular one? So thanks for putting on such a great show and keep up the great work. Respectfully, Paul C. Paul. Appreciate the email. Paul. I am not from Worcester. I'm from Clinton. There's a big difference. Okay? Big, big, big, big, big. No disrespect to Worcester, but I got to give it up to my Clinton folks. All right? I got the Cars coming. Okay. Got another Boston band coming before that, though. Sort of the Pixies. Sort of from Boston. We'll do a Cars episode. I don't know the right angle yet. You mentioned Journey. I think you meant to Say Boston. I want to do a Boston episode. There's some really bad stuff there. I don't know how to handle it, to be perfectly honest. Now, on your question of Little Richard and the censoring, the bleeping, that story was so depraved. That particular part of the story was so disgusting that when I actually voiced what happened, I just. I couldn't. I couldn't. It just sounded. It sounded too gross coming back at me and the speakers. So we bleeped it and, yeah, that's really the only answer. No one made me do it. I did it on my own. It was an editorial decision, creative decision, and that's why we did it.

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So there you go.

[Jake Brennan]

Appreciate you, Paul. Thanks for listening. Thanks for writing. All right, guys, you want to help out the show, you can do so by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Just go to either and look for Disgraceland. Leave a review. Let the folks know what you think. It helps with the discovery of the show. We appreciate it. If I read your review here, hit me up on the old email machine or disgracelandpod on either of the social platforms. We'll get some merch out to you. This one comes from Anthony Bourdain. No, this one comes from Tuddy. Tuddy writes in Anthony Bourdain award winning. That's on Apple Podcasts. Well, thank you. Appreciate that. Tutty, get a really nice review here from someone named Kid0000000001 regarding Winona Ryder. Not gonna read that, but thank you so much. Jonathan Hollis on Spotify writes great pair of episodes in reference to our Van Halen episodes. I can tell that you guys really love Van Halen. Might I suggest you guys do an episode on another group? I love Death Grips. They've got insane stories and even more insane conspiracy theories surrounding them. I'm very intrigued. What's up with Death Grips? I know next to nothing. Hit us back, Jonathan. Let me know. Thanks for the reviews, guys. Another way you guys can support the show, as always, is by becoming an exclusive All Access Disgraceland member. Okay? Your membership is only $5 a month. That'll get you like half a hot dog at a ballpark. And you're gonna get substantially more if you become a Disgraceland All Access member. Okay? You're gonna get more of these bonus episodes. You get a little extended version of the after Party. You're gonna get an exclusive episode per month in your feed on other Apple podcasts or on Patreon. And you're gonna get A.D. free listening. Okay. Huge. All that is huge. And only for five bucks. Appreciate you guys who are members. Like the conversation we got going on in Patreon. Excited to be back at it this week. Excited to be talking to you guys in the chat, digging the extended Rock and Roll hall of Fame conversation we're carrying on over there. A lot of folks in the Patreon chat today talking about. I'm looking here, talking about genres of music that they're surprised that they're listening to. Started with Kimberly, talking about how she's surprised that she's into metal. Coco's in there. She's a country fan, much to her surprise. Anyways, we're all in there pretty much every day talking, talking to each other, talking about music, talking about movies, talking about the things we talk about in Disgraceland. You want to become a member? It's five bucks Disgracelandpod.com membership All right, we are back. Let's climb into the vault here. Before we get out of here, see what archive episodes we've got waiting for you. Stuff that we discussed or referenced or hinted at in this bonus episode. We didn't talk about Pantera, but we did talk about Eddie Van Halen. And Eddie Van Halen shows up in that Pantera episode, which is one of my favorites. You're gonna want to check that out, especially to hear how Eddie was an integral of the Abbott Brothers and just the sound of Pantera. We mentioned Hendrix. We mentioned Jimmy Page, obviously. Hendrix and Led Zeppelin episodes in the Disgraceand Archive. A lot of people ride hard for Clapton. I'm not one of them. We got a Clapton episode. You guys know that we re release it every Christmas. And of course, Slick Rick coming in the rewind slot this week had me thinking about our Public Enemy episode. Another great Def Jam artist. Also NWA episode solo Easy E episode re released our Snoop episode a couple months back. Just did the big episodes. Got a lot of great hip hop in the archive for you guys, if that's your thing. Matt's gonna have the episode information in the show notes make it easy for you guys to comb through those 230 plus episodes. All right, let's recap, shall we? Number one, my other podcast, Hollywoodland, is alive and kicking over in the Hollywoodland feed. So make sure you're subscribed and following Hollywoodland on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcast. And get ready for our upcoming Hollywoodland episode on Will Smith, but only after you're caught up on our recent episod on Tim Allen. Number two, right now in your Disgraceland feed our part two episode on Van Halen. Number three Coming tomorrow, our rewind episode on Slick Rick and next week, our part two episode on Prince. So make sure you are subscribed to Disgraceland. Number four Merch winners. Get in touch. You know who you are. Number five Remember, no one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do. And, well, that's a disgrace. All right, in honor of this week's subject, Van Halen, the Billboard charts from October 6, 2020 the day Eddie Van Halen died. Number 1 Franchise Travis Scott featuring Young Thug and Mia Peak position 1 Weeks on chart 1 Number 2 Dynamite BTS last week 1 Peak position 1 Weeks on chart 6 Number 3 WAP Cardi.

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B featuring Megan Thee Stallion last week.

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2 People Peak position 1 Weeks on charts 8 Number 4 Laugh Now Cry Later Drake featuring Lil Durk T.O.

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Last week 4 Peak position 2 Weeks.

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On trend 7 Number 5 Moon 24 Karat Gold featuring Ian Dior last week 5 Weeks on charge Quit talking and start mixing it.