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Karen Reed
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Jake Brennan
Welcome to the Disgraceland Bonus episode A Little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show. The party after the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard. To dig into the dirt on this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's full episode subject on Frank Sinatra. A part two episode on Frank Sinatra. Actually, we're rewinding Back to Studio 54 previewing our upcoming episod episode on the Replacements. We get into Your voicemails, texts, DMs, thoughts on the books we're reading, the music we're listening to, the film and television we're watching. And, and, and we dig into the Diddy verdict fallout. And as always, a whole lot of Rosie. All right, discos, let's get into it. It's not often that a jury in a federal trial for racketeering answers our Disgraceland question of the week for us. But, guys, that's what happened. By now, you know that Sean Diddy Combs was deemed not guilty of racketeering conspiracy and not guilty of sex trafficking by force, fraud, or coercion. He was found guilty of two lesser counts of transportation to engage in prostitution. So in light of Our recent Part 2 episode on Frank Sinatra, we asked, was Frank Sinatra the most gangster musician of all time? And according to the jury in the Sean Combs trial, Sean Combs, at least, is not the most gangster musician of all time. At least if we're going by the book. Now, I don't know. Just because he got off on the more serious charges, I cannot unsee Sean Diddy Combs viciously beating on Cassie Ventura and, yeah, impossible to accept. But does that make him guilty of racketeering? No, it does not. And as our recent Sinatra episode points out, Frank got violent with the opposite sex, too. At least if we're to believe Peter Lawford's story about Frank putting that woman through the plate glass window. Now, like most of you guys, I read a ton of books. I read more than I spend. I spend more time reading, I should say more than I spend my time on TikTok. And I gotta say, I. I'm pretty annoyed by the Sean Diddy Combs corner of TikTok, the Jaguar rights, the wild claims about a list celebrities involved in Diddy's worst crimes. Now, of course, none of that came out in trial, and I'll admit there was a moment there where I thought it might, but I was never convinced. Which is why in the recent Diddy episode that we released, I based it entirely on the indictments in the publicly available legal documents at the time. Almost everything in that episode that came out in the trial, as I expected it would. Everything in Our Disgraceland Part 2 Sean Combs episode. Most of that was touched upon in the recent Sean Combs trial. And of course, the trial gave us more details, stuff that I didn't have proof, stuff that none of us had beforehand. But the trial did not give us anything that the TikTok gossip merchants were peddling like gospel. Okay, the new Sinatra episode, it's based on real information, information that I found in a recent book called Frank Sinatra and the Mafia Murders. It was released just two years ago, and it's based on sourcing from recently released Los Angeles Police intelligence files and a whole cache of new FBI documents that the authors got their hands on. Now, none of it was taken from X wise guys with YouTube channels or TikTok accounts. And as you've likely heard by now, Sinatra's involvement with the Mafia is pretty damn disgraceful and more gangster than what Sean Combs was officially found guilty of, at least as far as the official record is concerned. Now, speaking of records, switching gears here a little bit, Nirvana's Unplugged. It's getting its 30th anniversary remaster and re release. And that reminded me that I bought this album on vinyl when it came out. I still have it and I still listen to it. And I kind of want to get this remaster and a B the quality to see if there's actually any difference between the original that I have and the new remaster. How's your record collection doing? Okay, let me know. Let me know if you got anything you're excited about recently. I'm super excited on the reading front. I talked about this, I believe, in the All Access portion of last week's After Party episode, but I'm super excited about the Chris Whitaker book that I'm reading called We Begin at the End. It reads, I've got Nebraska from Bruce Springsteen on my mind. It's been a theme the last couple of weeks here, but it reads like Nebraska sounds. The book is sparse, it's poetic, it's thrilling. It's filled with characters that are barely hanging onto a world that's trying to shake them loose. Chris Whitaker has a new book out right now that a ton of people are freaking out over. It's number three on the New York Times Bestseller list at the moment, I believe I haven't read that yet, but I'm psyched, too. That one's called all the Colors of the Dark. You're probably gonna hear about that. But when you do know that the book, his first book called We Begin at the End is tremendous. This guy's a serious, serious author. And I can't wait to read all this stuff, but especially this new one, all the Colors of the Dark. Also just finished reading Brian Wilson's autobiography called I Am Brian Wilson. And I'm here to say that I am Jake Brennan. And this book broke my heart. I'm having a hard time writing this Brian Wilson episode this week. It's hard to find something original to say about a guy who so much has already been said about. But I think I found a unique way into Brian's incredible story. And I'll have this episode ready for you guys shortly. I can't wait to bring it to you. But before that, coming up next in your feed, we've got our rewind into our Studio 54 episode. Of course, lots of sex, lots of drugs, dead dude trapped in the walls, federal agents crashing the whole party. It's a whole thing, man. That's coming up next in your feed right after the bonus episode. Then after that, next Tuesday, we're bringing you our episode on the Replacements, a punk rock, rock and roll cautionary tale of self destruction, if there ever was one. Okay, when you're listening to this Replacements episode, guys, I want you to be thinking about which band or artist never made it big, but should have. Not that the Replacements weren't big. They're, they're legends in their own right. But you got to, you got to understand people who were around then expected the Replacements to be Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, okay, to be the 1980s version of the Rolling Stones, okay? That didn't happen. They weren't as big as most believe they should have been. And we all know bands like this. We all have even friends who are in bands who, who are great bands, great musicians that never got the due that they deserve. So let me know, are the Replacements the best example of that, or are there other bands, perhaps other artists that we should know about that you might want to turn on other Disgraceland listeners, the other discos onto these artists, onto these bands that are, that are more unknown, that never really broke through, that should have. Okay, call us 617-906-6638. DM US Disgracelandpod and your answers next week's After Party. That's it from my world this week. Okay? I could have spent, of course, an hour at least talking about Sean Combs. I've been on, I've been doing Radio interviews all day across the country. Maybe you're driving around Wichita, Kansas, Chicago, Detroit. Those are the ones I've done so far today. And you might hear me. I don't know. We'll see. Got more lined up for tomorrow, but right now I got your voicemails, your texts, and your DMs lined up right on the other side of this break.
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Jake Brennan
Yes. Evil maniacal.
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Jake Brennan
All right, we are back. Apple Podcast listeners, you know the drill. Turn on auto downloads. Okay? Turn on your auto downloads in your Apple podcast app. That way you don't miss any of our Graceland episodes. Okay? 617-906-6638. You know where I'm at? I'm in the phone booth. It's the one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone. You want to send me a voicemail? You want to send me a text? Hit me up. Voicemail and text. This week's question of the week in relation to Frank Sinatra, who's the most gangster musician of all time? Karen Reed. Karen Reed writes in. Hey, Jake. Karen reed from the 281, Sugarland, Texas. Not a Karen, and not that Karen Reed. I'm responding to your question of the week. Frank Sinatra is definitely the most gangster actor, celebrity musician. I'm re listening to the Frank Sinatra episodes right now. When you listen, I mean really listen, you need a string board to connect all the characters, historical places, events, times and romantic liaisons. You got me started down so many rabbit holes with the new episode two Judas Campbell Exner, Elora Gooding AKA Dorothy Lima, the Cal Neva Casino, CIA conspiracies, and I need to know more. She goes on to say, not having your podcast on my commute or anytime would be a disgrace. P.S. diddy is gangsta, less class, unfortunately charismatic for those he befriended and brought into his web of perversion, ruthless and sexual depravity. I hope he gets what's coming. If he doesn't, that's a disgrace. Happy 4th to you and the team at double levels. Happy happy 4th of July to you as well Karen Reid. Happy to hear you beat the rap. I'm just kidding. I know nothing about the Karen Reid case and I know you're not the real Karen Reid. We had a pretty extensive conversation last week about great singer songwriters, greatest singer songwriters of all time. If you remember, we went through that list and I heard from a lot of you and there were some serious singer songwriters who were left off of that list. You guys have Reminded Me of a Ton 727 writes in hey Jake, two singer songwriter albums that would definitely be on my list are Graham Parsons, Grievous angel and Tom Waits. Frank's Art Wild Years. Love the show, so keep doing what you do. Erica, it's interesting to hear you put Grievous angel ahead of gp. They're both fantastic. I think GP is a smidge better and really hard for me to pick a favorite Tom Waits album. I don't know if I did though. I don't know that I love Frank's Wild Years. I don't know if that would be it. Maybe swordfish trombone. I love Bone Machine too, even though it's later kind of messed up that both those artists weren't on the list. Leonard Cohen was also left off the list. Someone else pointed out Billy Joel, Elton John 302 writes in Warren Zevon and John Prine are for sure among the best singer songwriters of all time. But the Wind is a far better album than Zevon's self titled second album. He does a haunting cover of Knocking on Heaven's Door as he is in fact dying. Oh, I need to hear that. That's gonna make me sad though. 4:1:5 writes in. Hey, Joni Mitchell. How can she be left off the list? That's a really good, really good point. That's Glenn in the 415617 writes in. Favorite singer songwriter album is Living With Ghosts by Patty Griffin. That's a bold statement. 617. I would expect nothing less from somebody back in my hometown. 72 4. Hey, Jake, just listened to your after party episode and you asked about great singer songwriters. I gotta say my favorites that you didn't mention were Gordon Lightfoot and Marty Robbins. And both can be seen as some of the most successful, especially for the genre. Marty Robbins, I get. Oh, Devil Woman. Gordon Lightfoot, on the other hand, I mean, I get it. I get the love for Gordon Lightfoot. Not one of my faves. Maybe it should be. I love Beck's Sea Change and people often say that Sea Change by Beck is a Gordon Lightfoot ripoff. I think it's more of a Serge Gainsborough ripoff, but I don't know. Get back at me. 72 4. Let me know where to start with Gordon Lightfoot. God. These messages on the singer songwriter stuff are quite. They're pretty endless here. Five four zero writes in. Brings up Steve Earle. 540. Stephen in the five four zero. Steve Earl, one of the all time greats. I have a couple funny stories about Steve Earl. I've probably shared them with you guys before. I won't belabor it. All right, let's check out this voicemail here. Again on the same subject. Here's the 414.
Karen Reed
Hey Jake, this is Rain. I am calling to respond to your after show the other night, actually last night and you were talking about singer songwriters and I do not understand why no one mentions Tom Waits as an incredible singer songwriter. He is beyond amazing. And also Nick Cave. I know that he sometimes writes with his band, but I think believe that he writes a lot of stuff himself. So I was hoping that maybe you guys could think about doing episodes on them. That would be amazing. Yeah. And oh. Oh damn. There was another thing that I thought of. But I'm gonna have to call you back. All right, you take care.
Jake Brennan
All right. Rain, call us back when you remember what you wanted to say. I just talked about Tom Waits and you know, I can add a little bit here. When I was just starting out as an adult and making music, if you. If you asked me which artist's career would I want to replicate, would have. The answer would have been Tom Waits for sure. Of course I wasn't doing anything even close to approaching the greatness that Tom Waits was doing. Nor was I really trying that hard. Nick Cave, tremendous as well. This is really hard. There's no way you can come up with 10. A list of 10 of the greatest singer songwriters. There's just. There's too many. You have to leave off. You're gonna leave Nick Cave off that list. P.J. harvey. P.J. harvey. Leonard Cohen. No, you can't.
Tony
Hey, Jake. This is Clint from the 724 tryout. Jim Carroll, Catholic Boy, for Singer Songwriter album. I think he wrote most of the songs on that album. And the production and everything on it's killer. It's just a good one from like the late 70s, bro. Keep it up. You do a good job. Thanks, man. Bye, Clinton.
Jake Brennan
The 724. I actually don't know that record that well. I mean, I've heard. I think that's the one that has people who died and whatever the other song single was that got some traction. I know those tunes, of course, even though I can't think of the other one's name right now. But I don't know that as an album. So great recommendation and I'm pumped to be reminded to check out Jim Carroll. Jim Carroll should be an episode of Disgraceland. I've never seen the Basketball Diaries, by the way. Have you guys? I have not. 617-906-6638. You want to hit me up? Leave a voicemail or a text. Disgracelandpod on Instagram, TikTok X and Facebook if you want to get in touch with me over there. Kelly Van Violet, Sibling. I believe I'm pronouncing that correctly, but I'm probably not right saying, hey, I just happen to listen to the podcast, your podcast for the Beach Boys, in the last two days on Disgraceland. I finished it up this morning on my way to work. And I can tell you what the Beach Boys meant to me growing up. As somebody whose mother grew up in the 60s, somebody who was heavily influenced on this music, I am deeply saddened to hear the news about Brian Wilson. Thank you for sharing your stuff. You know, I gotta say here, Kelly and everybody else, when the news about Brian Wilson's death hit, you know, it didn't really affect me one way or another. Old rock stars die all the time. Oftentimes rock stars die, and you can immediately feel the hole. And we felt that. I felt that with other people. I didn't feel it myself. But now that I've been in this research and writing for the last week and a half on Brian Wilson, I do feel a tremendous amount of sadness, this guy, and I knew all this before, but when you get into his head, especially in the autobiography, he was not only a genius, not only a hugely important cultural figure in our culture, he was also a man who was largely a child. And I don't mean that in a negative way. I mean that in kind of the best way. And his mental illness certainly had something to do with that. He was taken advantage of. He. God, it's really rough because there's so much innocence in his songs. Innocence and beauty. And I've listened to that sort of 90s, late or early 90s, I believe. I think it's 1991, the love and Mercy track, that album. But that the song Love and Mercy, I should say, I don't think that's the name of the album, but the song Love and Mercy, it's just been on repeat the last few days and it's wrecked me. It's so simple, it's so beautiful. It's such a fantastic representation, I think, of who Brian Wilson was as a person, as a character. And I'm a bit wrecked by it. And I'm looking forward for all of you, you especially Kelly, hearing this Brian Wilson episod episode. Thanks for writing. You guys want to hit me up at Disgraceland? Pod on the socials. Go for it. Wicked Wanda writes in. In relation to Sean Diddy Combs. He is guilty. Like oj, Wicked, Wanda and everybody else. I feel your pain. You know, I just. Circling back to the Diddy thing here, I have this one thought and I've been talking about this all day. We can't unsee what Sean Combs did to Cassie Ventura, but he wasn't on trial for that. And I do think he's guilty of things if they weren't proven. Two things can be true at once. I can't exactly say what those things are. I don't know. I don't think really anyone truly knows who's on the outside like we are. But I think it's also possible that the government overreached here and that's why we ended up where we ended up. Shocking. I don't think the guy's gonna do any time. I mean, he'll do sometime, but not real time. So, yeah, your O.J. comp. It might be entirely accurate. Wicked Wanda, thanks for checking in. All right, let's switch gears here. Let's get into our little sports section of the song. This is a 60 second sports rant. In under 30 seconds or whatever, we're calling this segment for the discos who are also sports geeks like me. All right, Matt, give me the buzzer. Give me the little buzzer beater thingy. All right, listen, sports world kind of dead right now, okay? Not a lot going on. I don't care about tennis or the WNBA beating the piss out of Caitlin Clark. What the hell is that all about? By the way, I did, like I said, not a lot going on. So I did a quick Google of the five greatest sports movies of all time and Vulture gave me the following. Number five, Foxcatcher. Never seen it. Number four, Bull Durham. Great. Might be too high on this list. Number three, Rocky. Wrong answer. This should be number two. Two they have here in Vulture on the list. Number two, Raging Bull. That also the wrong answer. That should be number three. Number one, hoop Dreams. Great, great, great movie. But wrong. The correct answer is to the question of what is the greatest sports movie of all time? Well, that is of course slap shot from 1977 featuring Paul Newman, the Hanson brothers and Eddie Shore's old time hockey. Tell me I'm wrong. 617-906-6638 I'll be back in.
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Jake Brennan
All right, guys, welcome back. Welcome back to the show. We are back, back, back, back. This week, the Hollywoodland minute is brought to you by Roman Polanski sort of. That doesn't really make sense. But you know what I'm talking about. The Hollywoodland episode that we're featuring this week is on Roman Polanski, okay. From Chinatown to exile, Oscar acclaim to extradition battles and all kinds of other disgraceful things that I'm not going to get into here. You need to subscribe to Hollywoodland to hear this episode, okay? And of course, in addition to this episode, this week, Zeth and I, my guy Seth, guy who writes most of the Hollywoodland episodes, he and I, every week we're doing a whole other bonus thing over there. It's called the wrap party right in the Hollywoodland feed. All right. Complete with our recommendations, our movies, music, even. All right, Matt, give him a little taste. Give him a little bit of the wrap party.
Tony
Jake, what's going on, brother? It's Tony from the 206. Just listening to the Roman Polanski episode and thought about the question you ask about are you able to, you know, separate the artists from their art, the creator from their art? And honestly, it's more easier for me do in movies than it is, say music, for example. Like, I know a lot of people that will still watch a John Wayne film and can totally separate that from who John Wayne was, the person, you know. Google the 1971 Playboy article versus music. Like, for me, I can't listen to any of R. Kelly's music anymore because a lot of his music is him telling on himself, you know, And I guess with Roman Polanski, it's kind of like with some of his work telling on himself in a way. I don't know. But that's just my take on it, man. Much love to you. Much love from the 206. Hope you're having a good summer. Stay hydrated, brother.
Jake Brennan
Tony in the 206. Great to hear from you. Great way to frame this question when you're comparing the transgressions of film directors and musicians. I think maybe put the telling on yourself aside piece aside for a second. But the. I don't know, is music just more personal? Is that what it is, Seth? Is that what makes it harder?
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I think it could be. I think there's a big part of what the music that you listen to being such a part of your identity in a way that the movies that you watch aren't part of your identity. I don't have a fast, clear answer for why that is the case, but music has always been such a part of who you are.
Jake Brennan
Yeah, certainly for me. But movies too, to Some degree. I don't know. I mean, Woody Allen is certainly in Manhattan telling on himself to use Tony's phrase, but I still love that movie. And I guess, I don't know, I don't know if it's different between musicians and directors for me. All right, guys, that's Hollywoodland. That is available wherever you get your podcast. That's our little, you know, our corner of the. Of the. Of the movies and true crime annex from history. All right, you got to subscribe and follow on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcast. Search for Hollywoodland. You're going to get one of those archive episodes per week. Plus you're going to get the Rap Party bonus episode. Lots of new listeners appreciate you guys. Real quick, if you're new, this is how we do it. Tuesdays, new full episode of Disgraceland Thursday, this after party bonus episode of Disgraceland. Fridays, we rewind an episode from our massive archive. I always say with over 230 full episodes, but that's gotta be pushing 250 at this point. Any of you new listeners have questions about previous artists that we've covered, and we've covered so many of them, get in touch 617-906-6638. Voicemail and text. Hit me up on the DMs. Disgracelandpod. I can answer most questions for you. One of the questions I get often is, Jake, how can I support the show? How can I help out? How can I pitch in? How can I do my part? I really like what you're doing over there. I want you to do more of it. And I always answer, well, hey, there's a couple ways you can leave a review, all right. On Apple Podcasts or Spotify or you can support the show on Patreon or in Apple Podcasts. Just go to Disgracelandpod.com membership and when you're there, it's basically going to tell you what I'm going to tell you right now. Five bucks a month, you're gonna get ad free listening. You're gonna get an extra portion of this bonus episode where I talk to you and you alone. Well, you and you alone in the sort of universal members sense. And you're also going to get one additional full episode per month. Just for five bucks. I say just for five bucks. Like five bucks doesn't mean anything. It does. I get it. It's hard to buy anything with five bucks these days. Cause shit is expensive, okay? But I like to think what we're providing for five bucks is worth it. So again, Disgracelandpod.com membership to become a member. And if you do so right now, in the bonus part of this here bonus episode, you're gonna hear me give my full take on the Sean Diddy Combs case. All right, we are back. Thanks for hanging with me for another after party here, guys. We talked about a bunch of artists in this episode that we've covered in our previous episodes of Disgrace and of course, Sean Diddy Combs. Two episodes on Sean Combs. You want to hear those? The second one gets explicitly into the Cassie Ventura indictment. Check that out. We also mentioned Nirvana. I'm not sure who else. Matt. Matt will figure it out and he'll put it all in the show notes for you. He'll make it easy for you. All right? It'll be right in there. You can find where these episodes are in our archive. But for now, let's recap. All right, number one, this week's full episode of Disgraceland on Frank Sinatra. Part two on Frank Sinatra. That's available for you right now, top of your feed. Number two, coming up next in your feed is our rewind episode, our Studio 54 episode. Number three, coming next week, new episode on the Replacements. Number four, over in the Hollywoodland feed, Roman Polanski. Plus our wrap party bonus episode where Zeth and I are unpack the story and giving you our recommendations. Number 561-7906, 6638. Voicemail and text DM me@gracelandpod on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook and xdisgracelandpodgmail.com to email. Number six, don't forget, no one cares about music, books, records and the crime and grime that ties it all together like you do. And well, that is a disgrace. On December 8, however, 1963, Frank Sinatra's son was kidnapped and a mafia enforcer's phone call set off a chain of really, really bad things. Here is what America was listening to at that time. Number one on the Billboard charts, Dominique the Singing Nun. Last week two peak position one weeks on chart five. Number two. I'm leaving it up to you, Dale and Grace. Last week, one peak position one weeks on chart 10. Number three, everybody, Tommy Rowe. Last week seven peak position three weeks on chart nine. Number four, Louie Louie the Kingsman. Last week 23 peak position four weeks on chart five. Number five, she's a fool. Leslie Gould. Last week six peak position five weeks on train 11. Quit talking and start mixing. Cut it.
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DISGRACELAND Bonus Episode – "The Verdict is in" Summary
Release Date: July 3, 2025
Host: Jake Brennan
Podcast: DISGRACELAND by Double Elvis Productions
In this special bonus episode titled "The Verdict is in," host Jake Brennan bridges the gap between regular episodes by delving into updates, listener interactions, and reflections on recent full episodes. This episode serves as an after-party, offering deeper insights and personal anecdotes that enrich the DISGRACELAND narrative.
The centerpiece of this episode revolves around the recent verdict in Sean "Diddy" Combs' federal trial. Jake discusses the outcomes and their impact on public perception.
Jake reflects on the jury's decision, juxtaposing it with public sentiment and past episodes:
"Sean Combs, at least, is not the most gangster musician of all time. At least if we're going by the book." [04:15]
Despite the acquittal on major charges, Jake expresses discomfort with Combs' aggressive behavior toward Cassie Ventura, emphasizing the complexity of guilt beyond legal verdicts:
"I cannot unsee Sean Diddy Combs viciously beating on Cassie Ventura and, yeah, impossible to accept. But does that make him guilty of racketeering? No, it does not." [07:45]
Drawing parallels to a previous episode on Frank Sinatra, Jake highlights Sinatra's more severe associations with organized crime:
"Frank got violent with the opposite sex, too... Sinatra's involvement with the Mafia is pretty damn disgraceful and more gangster than what Sean Combs was officially found guilty of." [09:10]
He references Peter Lawford's accounts of Sinatra's violent tendencies, underscoring the historical depth of gangster influences in the music industry.
Jake addresses the rampant misinformation surrounding high-profile cases on platforms like TikTok. He emphasizes the importance of relying on credible sources:
"The trial did not give us anything that the TikTok gossip merchants were peddling like gospel." [06:30]
This segment serves as a caution against the spread of unverified claims and the importance of evidence-based discussions.
Shifting gears, Jake shares his enthusiasm for music and literature, connecting personal interests to the podcast's themes.
Nirvana's "Unplugged" Remaster:
Literary Pursuits:
"This book broke my heart... it's a fantastic representation of who Brian Wilson was as a person." [13:15]
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to listener contributions, where fans share their thoughts on singer-songwriters and suggest topics for future episodes.
"Frank Sinatra is definitely the most gangster actor, celebrity musician... I need to know more." [16:10]
Jake acknowledges these suggestions, expressing enthusiasm to explore these artists in future episodes.
Jake shares a heartfelt recount of Brian Wilson's impact on him personally and culturally. He discusses Wilson's genius, struggles, and the profound sadness surrounding his death:
"He was not only a genius... he was also a man who was largely a child... there's so much innocence in his songs." [19:30]
This segment underscores the human side of music legends, highlighting their vulnerabilities and enduring legacies.
In the "60 Second Sports Rant," Jake provides a rapid-fire opinion on premier sports films, challenging commonly held rankings:
"The correct answer is, of course, 'Slap Shot' from 1977... Tell me I'm wrong." [22:45]
This lighthearted segment offers a breather from the intense true crime discussions, catering to the sports enthusiasts among the listeners.
Transitioning to the Hollywoodland feed, Jake explores the contentious topic of separating art from the artist, using Roman Polanski as a case study.
Jake and his co-host Seth discuss the complexities of this dilemma, particularly in the music industry where personal identity is closely intertwined with artistic output.
"Is music just more personal? Is that what it is... I don't know if it's different between musicians and directors for me." [27:00]
Jake outlines the content pipeline for DISGRACELAND, highlighting upcoming episodes and encouraging listener support through memberships and reviews.
Upcoming Content:
Support Channels:
"Five bucks a month... I like to think what we're providing for five bucks is worth it." [30:45]
Jake wraps up the episode by summarizing key points, thanking listeners, and reinforcing the podcast's commitment to unraveling the intertwined narratives of music history and true crime.
"No one cares about music, books, records and the crime and grime that ties it all together like you do. And well, that is a disgrace." [32:15]
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This bonus episode of DISGRACELAND offers a multifaceted exploration of recent events in the true crime and music world, enriched by listener interactions and personal reflections from the host. It maintains DISGRACELAND's signature blend of entertainment and storytelling, making it a compelling listen for fans of music history and true crime alike.