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The party after the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other the backyard to dig into the dirt on this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's full episode subject, Bruce Springsteen. We are previewing next week's Frank Sinatra Part 2 finale. We get into your voicemails, text, DMs, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. All right, discos, let's get into it. So I didn't mean to feature two Whopper episodes on New Jersey musicians back to back in our feed, but that's what happened. Bruce Springsteen is back at the top of your feed this week in our Tuesday full episode slot. And next week we have Our brand new Part 2 episode on Frank Sinatra. After that, of course, we have our episodes on Bon Jovi, Frankie Valli and the four Seasons and Lifetime. No, I'm kidding. Our New Jersey exploration stops next week with Sinatra Part 2. No Bon Jovi episode, no Frankie Valli episode, and definitely no Lifetime episode. Although maybe, maybe a Bon Jovi, maybe a Frankie Valli one in the future. But man, this. The point is a lot of great bands from Tony Soprano's home turf. Just Springsteen in Sinatra alone is kind of wild. And I'm tempted to ask you guys which state has given us the greatest musicians? But we talked about a version of that question recently. We also got down on the topic recently on Instagram. Anyways, which Springsteen album is the best? Which is an impossible question to answer. My answer, despite the impossibility, as I said on Instagram, has changed wildly throughout my years of boss appreciation. But weirdly, I think my answer is not Nebraska, the album that we feature in this week's full episode of Disgraceand, but instead I think the answer to the question of what my favorite Bruce Springsteen album is. I think it's the album that Nebraska spawned In its wake, Born in the usa, an album, or at least a single and an era of Bruce Springsteen anyway that I once despised as a kid. I did not like Bruce Springsteen growing up. It actually took Nebraska to get me into it. Actually it was. I think it was the song the river and shortly after that Nebraska. But anyways, I don't want to ask that question here. Okay, Instead I want to talk about singer songwriters, because the Boss is definitely that and he's one of the greatest singer songwriters. But is he the best first? What do I mean when I say singer songwriter? Sinatra was a singer, but not a songwriter. So Frank's out. Mick Jagger sings and writes songs, but he fronts a band that he largely co leads with Keith Richards. So mix out. What about Paul McCartney? Yes, Paul is very much a singer songwriter, but he's much more than that. And I'm disqualifying Paul and John for that matter, and George and even Ringo and other post mega band artists who went on to solo careers. Instead, I'm choosing to focus on artists who broke onto the scene and spent the majority of their careers on stage in front of a microphone with an instrument in their hands, belting out tunes that they themselves wrote. At times they're on stage by themselves. At times they're on stage in front of bands that they lead. Bruce Springsteen is the perfect example, but so is someone like Dave Matthews, whereas Jeff Tweedy of Wilco is not. And you know, Bob Dylan, obviously, great example. Elton John, great example. Ryan Adams, great example. Whereas someone like Craig Finn or Frank Black, they're not great examples. Taylor Swift, great example. Jane Wyden from the Go Go's. Despite writing a lot of those songs, Not a great example. Starting to get the definition. Singer, songwriter, Solo artists who write their own songs lead their own bands. Who did it best? Was it the Boss? And the answer is hell no, it wasn't the Boss. Because Dylan did it first and arguably better. You might like Springsteen better than Dylan, but Dylan gave Bruce the map on how to get to where he was going. Now, might not have been a Texaco roadmap, but it was a guide. And Springsteen is still following Dylan. Look at the recent biopics. Okay, speaking of directions and how to get from one place to another, the Dylan movie is called no Direction Home and the Springsteen movie is called Deliver Me From Nowhere. Bruce got himself lost here just like Bob did. Okay, this question is nearly impossible to answer. Who is the best singer songwriter of all time? All I know is that Bruce ain't it. But guys, I found One of my favorite things today on my way to the after party, a list. Okay. It's a little bit more dialed in, however, which I like, because it gives us some more structure to this question. The list doesn't ask who is the greatest singer songwriter of all time. It asks, what is the greatest singer songwriter album of all time? Now this question. This gives me the fuel I need to contradict myself and look like a proper asshole. Because if you ask me what is the greatest singer songwriter album of all time, I might tell you. Nebraska by Bruce Springsteen. I might give you that as the answer. But you're going to say, wait, wait, Jake, how can a Springsteen album, how can a Springsteen singer songwriter album be better than a Dylan singer songwriter album if Dylan is, in your words, the best singer songwriter of all time? And especially if that Springsteen album isn't Born in the usa, which you just told us was your favorite Springsteen. And my answer to you would be, I have no fucking idea. It has something to do with the fact that Born in the USA is a band album. Nebraska is a one man show with a tight focus on theme and character. And I can't think of a Dylan album that is presented quite like that. Plus, I just fucking love Nebraska. Probably more than Blonde on Blonde. But enough twisted logic, I'm giving myself a headache. Let's get into the list so we can argue with the dude who made it and not the voices in my head. All right. The list of greatest singer songwriter albums of all time comes from a 2024 Melophobe post. I don't know who this writer is, but I like him. And this list is solid and more importantly, it is compelling. Number 10, blood on the Tracks by Bob Dylan. This seems way too low. I don't know, you guys tell me. Number nine, pink Moon by Nick Drake. Not gonna lie. Aside from maybe one other song besides the title track, I don't really know this record and now I feel stupid. So thanks. Melophobe. Number 8, Harvest by Neil Young. This seems, well, kind of Perfect. A solid 8 on this list of heavyweight singer songwriter albums. I can get with Harvest at eight, I guess number seven, either or by Elliot Smith. And I gotta say, man, no, no, you got the wrong record. The right record is xo. If you had XO here by Elliot Smith. Now, can Elliot Smith have an album better than Neil Young at number eight? Hell yeah, he can. But it can't be either or. It's gotta be XO better than Bob Dylan as well. Yeah, I do believe he can. Exo Is that good? It's great start to finish. Not a single turd in the punch pole on Expo. Number six, Moondance by Van Morrison. Speaking of turds. No, I'm kidding. This album is not a turd, but it's not rock solid start to finish. And I'm not even sure it should be higher than Astro Weeks, which isn't even on this list. Number five, Horses by Patti Smith. The writer ranking Patti Smith higher than Van Morrison is a cheeky fuck you. And I like it. I spelled G L O R I A. I can't argue with this choice or its placement. This album rocks start to finish and it's singular in its sound and in its statement. It's great. G R E A T. It's a great record. Number four, Warren Zevon. Warren Zevon. Self titled. Okay. Admittedly, I don't know this record as well as some of these other records, but I have heard it and I do own it. And I know that it doesn't deserve to be this high on the list despite it being responsible for one of the greatest G Allen moments in music history. But I do think I need to revisit this because I don't quite know what the hell it is I'm talking about when I talk about this album because I've listened to it, but I've never really, really let myself get taken in by it. And I think if I did, I think if I did, maybe if I did, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe I would think it deserved this high of a placement on this list. I don't know. Number three, Grace by Jeff Buckley. Hard to fuck with this record. Hard to fuck with this placement. I could say the same thing about this record that I said about Horses. Nothing like it before and no one's come close to giving us anything like it since. Number two, John Prine. John Prine. Hard for me to comment on this one because I've never been taken in by John Prine. Now I've tried, unlike with that Z von record I was talking about. And I don't think, like a lot of people do, that John Prine is the second coming of Robert Zimmerman. I don't dislike John Prine. I don't like. I just don't think that he's the bee's knees. I don't think he's better than Jeff Buckley. Now hold on, hold on. I know John Prine has had a long, illustrious career before he passed away and Jeff Buckley basically made one record. So I get it. I get it. Come at me. I deserve it for that comment. But Grace just, it's just, it's incredible. Is John Prine. John Prine that good? I don't know. Maybe I should go look at it specifically with that intention to compare it to Grace. But let's stop talking about John Prine in the number two spot. Let's talk about the number one spot, Bob Dylan's Blonde on Blonde. Hard to argue with this one unless you want to bring other Dylan albums into the mix. Is Blonde on Blonde better than Blood on the Tracks, which was number 10 on this list? I don't know. Freewheeling. Is it better than freewheeling Bob Dylan? I don't know about that either. Maybe. Probably. Maybe. Very hard to say. Is it better than Nebraska, though? That's the question. Nebraska didn't even make the top 10. Shows you what I know. Glaring omissions from this list, by the way. Billy Joel's the Stranger, Ryan Adams is Heartbreaker, Amy Winehouse is Back to Black. But you tell me, what is the greatest singer songwriter album of all time? And hell, it doesn't even have to be the greatest. It can just be. What does that even mean, the greatest? What does that even have proven in this? That I have no idea what it means. It's just all opinions. Just let me know what singer songwriter album you love. The oh, Tapestry by Carole King. How's that not on this dude's list? Come on, let me know what you think. Singer songwriter album, which one hit you the most? 617-90-66638. 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I was going to write a Frank Sinatra episode on the kidnapping of Frank Sinatra Jr. And in researching that story, I was using a book that was published in 2022. And it talks in depth about that story, but it really, really, really gets into. With. With. This is the most important part, with a bunch of new sourcing, a bunch of new government documents, federal and state, from Los Angeles, on Frank Sinatra and his mob ties throughout his career. And what I came upon in this research is that the myth about the myths, I should say plural, about Frank Sinatra and the Mafia and our general cultural understanding of Frank's relationship to. To the mob, to the Italian mob, what. Our understanding and acceptance of what that is is not true. We've been. We've bought into a false narrative. I'm not trying to make the case in this episode that he was not tied to the Mafia. In fact, just the opposite. I'm saying that he was tied in way more and more fully than we have believed. We sort of accepted this myth. The myth comes in a box, and it has boundaries, and it is what it is. I'm not going to burn it all here. I'm just to say that there's so much more to that. And it's not like I got this out of a book that some gossip rag written to sell off airport shelves, okay? This is written by a real law enforcement investigator with access to real sourcing that is recent, okay? And it kind of completely disrupted my understanding of who Frank Sinatra was and what he actually did for the American Mafia. And, yeah, man, I think you're really going to dig it. It's coming your way on Tuesday, and when you're listening to it and you're getting my new perspective on Frank, I want you to think about Sean Combs, and I want you to think about Tupac, Dre. I want you to think about any of the other sort of domineering personalities in rock and roll history. And I want you to answer the question of, is Frank Sinatra the most gangster musician of all time? 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Chris
Take Chris in the 626. I am calling in response to your question about songs about murder and true crime. I think I've mentioned this to you when we talked, but I have to give my vote to Suffer Little Children by the Smiths. It's about the Moore murders in Manchester in the early 1960s. Kind of captivated the kids and the parents at that time. It was about Ian Brady and Myra Henley, who were a couple who were serial killers. And it's dark. A lot of the lines in the song come from a book called Beyond Belief. I picked up the book in New Orleans in a thrift store in the mid-90s, and it lived up to its title. So there you go, man. Big love. Rocka Rolla.
Jake
Stay gold, Chris. Thanks for the call, my man. I don't know that song. Thank you. Maybe I've heard it and I just never. It never hit me as a murder ballad or whatever. But when you mentioned Beyond Belief, the book, and now I'm wondering if the Elvis Costello Beyond Belief, that's an Elvis Costello song, right? Am I making that up? Am I thinking what's going. Hold on, let me just. Yeah, Elvis Costello, Beyond Belief. Does that have to do with the same thing? I don't know, but it's making me wonder. And just great. Great voicemail, Chris. Appreciate you. Stay gold yourself. Rocka Rolla. All that jazz. What else we got? Let's check out AJ in the 203.
Chris
AJ this is John from the 203. I think Bob Dylan, Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll off his times. They are a Changing album. I believe that was 64. That's my favorite song about a murder. I mean, how often do you hear someone rhyme table with table and then again with table? So he just uses that word three times to get his rhyme. Great song. Sad, tragic story beat about that. What really happened on Wikipedia is kind of a true story, too. And it really is a great song.
Jake
About a tragic Great choice. And I don't know that I've ever heard anyone else rhyme table with table or even thought of that. Someone said it was Brian Wilson. I'm researching Brian Wilson. Someone said you can't rhyme. Not someone. Brian Wilson said, you cannot rhyme anything with orange. And I don't know if that's true. Is it true? I don't know. Let's go to Michelle and the 41 6.
Chris
Hi, Jake, it's Michelle from Toronto, the 416. I'm calling in reverse. Last week's question. Song, song, song. The first one that came to my mind was Maxwell's Silver Hammer, because I remember as a kid singing my lungs out to that song and not, well, knowing that it was about killing some sweet lady.
Jake
Michelle, amazing choice. Amazing, amazing, amazing choice. I got so into the backstory of Maxwell Silverhammer that I was like, I'm going to do a whole scripted fictional podcast about this story because it's off the charts. And I think the way the Beatles present, they don't really present it in a dark way. They kind of do the opposite. I think that's very smart. Really cool. Love that song. Great choice. Let's go to beth in the 3, 6, 0.
Chris
Hey, Jake, this is Beth from the 360. Used to be the 206, but they added another. Whatever those things are called, prefix. Anyway, I was responding to the question about the most true crime song that would have to be probably the Hurricane, Bob Dylan about the boxer Reuben and Patterson, also set in New Jersey. So sorry, I'm driving a little distracted. Anyway, yeah, you gotta talk about the Hurricane. Anyway, gotta go. Don't drive and talk.
Jake
All right, Bye, Beth. Be careful out there behind the wheel. Thank you. Great choice. We were talking about this the other day, Bob Dylan's Hurricane. And we're talking about the. So we're talking about doing an episode on this story. And if I'm remembering this story correctly, Bob Dylan, of course, is advocating the innocence of boxer Reuben Carter. But I believe Reuben Carter was proved guilty. Was he not? Later, Much later. Kind of like a Norman Mailer executioner song thing. Now, I got to look this up. Nope. I know not what I'm talking about. At least based on 5 seconds of research here. Google AI says here Reuben Hurricane Carter was found not guilty. He was initially convicted of a triple murder in 1967, but those convictions were overturned by a federal judge in 1985 due to racial bias and lack of evidence. The judge determined that the prosecution had relied on an appeal to racism rather than reason. Damn still make for a compelling episode, I think, especially with Dylan's interest, history and support of boxing and of boxers and as a boxer himself. Bet you didn't know that. Make for a good episode. I think it's coming. I think we're gonna get into it. Part three, Bob Dylan, what do you think? I know you're saying Bob Dylan Part three, where's our Poison episode? And I just say to you, you know, I'm just, yeah, maybe. I don't know. Sure. I think so. Yeah, it's coming. It's a lot of Dylan still to get into. 617-906-6638 you want to get into the voicemails and texts with me? You want to leave me an answer to any of our topics here? Any of our questions of the week? 678 texts in hey, best song about murder, of course is Murder is the Case by Snoop Dogg. Reason he was the defendant and was found not guilty. 440 writes in hey, did you just say unfuck withable? And I would answer you 440 and say yes, I did. I did. I said that. I said it. I'm not apologizing for it. 801 writes in Nebraska by Springsteen is epic. Another favorite true crime tune is Mark Knopfler's song for Sonny Liston. He hated needles, but he knew too much suicide. Many think it was a hit job. Guys, I can't wait for you to hear the Sonny Liston episode of Sportsland if you have not already. 617-906-6638. You want to hit me up on voicemail and text. Guys, you want to get at me? Send me a text, send me a voicemail and I don't answer it or play it here on the afterparty. Do not be dismayed. There is another way for you to get your voice heard. Just go over to the Hollywoodland feed in whatever podcast app you're in. Follow Hollywoodland. Listen to the wrap party. We release them every Wednesday. It's very similar to the after party except is film, movies, Hollywood and true crime history. And it's not just me behind the mic, it's me and my guy, Zeth Lundy Zest driving the show over there. Zeth and I, however, are both answering your voicemails and your texts and your DMs and your emails. So if you want to, you want another shot at getting heard? That is a way to do it. All right. Go to Hollywoodland. Make sure you're subscribed. All right, listen you guys know, I'm a sports fanatic. I'm a Boston sports fan in particular. There's not much going on in the world of Boston sports right now, but still, I do have a sports team. It's kind of tied to Boston. Matt, give me a little, give me a little buzzer beater here when we do my 30 second sports take in under 15 seconds or whatever the hell we're calling this segment. The Lakers who are not the greatest franchise in NBA history. That, of course, is the Boston Celtics. The Lakers just sold for $10 billion. And it got me thinking just how batshit crazy the Lakers history has been. Despite the fact that they don't have as many championships as the Boston ce nor do they have they ever had a player as good as Larry Bird. But despite all that, they do have a crazy, crazy, crazy history. Just some weird shit. And I found this. There's all kinds of stuff, like in Hollywoodland, we talk in the Jack Nicholson episode about his love of the Lakers and how he had a clause in his contract in the 80s that prevented him from working on nights that the Lakers played at home. And that that clause was even. Which is nuts. There's all kinds of stuff that has gone on in Lakers history that's really wild. But this one, I got to admit, I never heard this and it bears repeating. In 1969, the Los Angeles Lakers drafted a guy named Ken Spain. Unaware that Ken Spain was dead, they drafted a dead guy. He died in a car crash weeks earlier. Yet the Lakers didn't know and they still drafted him, which is insane. And it's totally in line with, you know, the Lakers craziness. But it was interesting to me because it just shows that was 1969. 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Offer valid June 18 through July 9, US only. See store or online for details. All right, we are back. It's the Hollywoodland minute. This is the part of the show where I talk about our other show, Hollywoodland. All right, this week's full episode subject of Hollywoodland is on the Wonderland Murders. This story, it's mainly a John Holmes story, but the Wonderland murder story is the real story behind that scene in Boogie Nights with. What's the guy's name? Alfred Molina. He's playing that character. He's in the robe. They're trying to rob his house. You know what I'm talking about. This is the real story, the story behind that story, and it is a fascinating story in my estimation. It's a story that I don't know enough of the ins and outs about, even after we've produced this episode. And the story comes up again in the upcoming Disgraceland episode of Nikki Sixx, which you're gonna hear in a couple weeks, our Part two to the Motley Crue episode. However, now in the Hollywoodland feed, you can check out this Wonderland Murders John Holmes story. And you can also hear Szeth and I in the wrap party getting down with some recommendations. Relevant to Wonderland, relevant to Hollywood, relevant to John Holmes. Matt, give him a little clip. Show them what they're missing. If they're not subscribed to the Hollywoodland podcast. I'm obsessed lately with. With this song by another Eddie. Eddie and the Hot Rods. Do anything you want to do is the name of the song. And it is incredible. It is uplifting. It's one of those songs you put on. You're gonna drive faster than you should be driving. You're gonna feel good for the rest of the day. Fantastic tune. Great message as well. Eddie and the Hot Rods, are they different from Eddie and the Cruisers? Yes, much different. I remember seeing that record all the time in the. In any record store, you go into Eddie and the Cruisers, like the. Was that a soundtrack or something? It was a movie. And Eddie and the Cruisers, the. The fictional band were an actual real band. John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown bands. Yeah. What a name. From Philly, I believe. Don't quote me on that, because I actually don't know. I just think it's Philly. They were like a Springsteen one.
Chris
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jake
You know what I mean? Yeah. And they had real hits. On the Dark side. I was gonna say on the dark side. Yeah. And they're like. That was like, you get your Bruce spring scene at home, you know? Yeah, exactly, exactly. But Eddie and the Hot. Eddie and the Hot Rods, I believe, were like a pub rock band from the late seventies in. In London. I don't know much about them. I just know they're like, you know, punkish pub Rocky type thing. This song is incredible. I don't know how I got onto it, but it's just great. All right, that's Zeth and I from the rap party guys. Again, make sure you're subscribed to Hollywoodland, whatever you guys get your podcasts. And also if you want the whole ad free thing, if you've been on the fence about, do I sign up? Do I become a member? Do I become a Disgraceland member? Do I go to Disgracelandpod.com membership and fork over the five bucks per month to get ad free listening of Disgraceland, to get an extra exclusive episode of Disgraceland every single month to get more of this after party. Do I do that? Do I pay that five bucks? You might not think it's worth it. You might think, hey, five bucks is a lot of money. It is a lot of money. I understand. As a dude from New Jersey once said, I get debts no honest man can pay. Listen, now, however, you're getting Hollywoodland as well, ad free. All for that same five bucks. All right, go to disgraceandpod.com membership to sign up and become a member today, just for $5. All right, we are back. And man, we mentioned a lot of musicians in this episode. Who we have episodes on Jeff Buckley, Van Morrison, who else? Bob Dylan. I guess we've covered a lot of singer songwriters. Nothing on Elliot Smith, nothing on John Prine, nothing on Warren Zevon. But perhaps I have a good idea for Warren Zevon episode. Anyways, Matt will do a full accounting of who we mentioned and he'll get the archive episodes for you in the show notes. He'll get that information episode numbers. So you can easily go back and find any of those episodes you might want to listen to in our archive of over 235 episodes. All right. It's a lot. All right, let's recap. Number one, this week's episode on Bruce Springsteen and the real murders behind Nebraska. That's available for you right now. Check that out. Get in there. Get in there. Listen to it. Get back at me. Let me know what you. Number two, our rewind episode on Fleetwood Mac, parts one and two is coming up next in your feed. Number three, next week on Tuesday, Frank Sinatra Part two. You're not gonna wanna miss that. Number four, over in the Hollywoodland feed, we got our episode on the Wonderland murders and our latest wrap party bonus episodes. Those are waiting for you right now. Number four. Damn it, I forgot to do the reviews again. Damn it, I gotta do that next week. Leave a review for Disgraceland or Hollywoodland. Number five, Remember, no one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do. And, well, that. That's a disgrace. All right, in honor of this week's full episode subject, Bruce Springsteen, who released Nebraska on January 3, 1982. This is what the country was listening to according to the Billboard Hot 100 at that time. Number one physical Olivia Newton John. Last week one weeks at number one. Eight weeks on chart 15. Number two waiting for a girl like you. Foreigner. Last week two peak position two weeks on chart 14. Number three, let's groove Earth, Wind and Fire. Last week three peak position three weeks on chart 15. Number four. I can't go for that, no can do. Darrell Hall John Oates. Last week four Peak position four weeks on chart nine. Number five Young Turks Rod the Bod Stewart. Last week five people Session five Quit talking and start mixing. Cut it.
DISGRACELAND Bonus Episode Summary
Episode Title: Bonus Episode – True Crime Songs, Singer Songwriters, and the Worst Draft Pick in NBA History
Release Date: June 26, 2025
The host, Jake from Double Elvis Productions, kicks off the bonus episode aptly named the "After Party," designed to bridge the gap between full episodes of DISGRACELAND. This segment delves deeper into the week's topics, previews upcoming content, and engages directly with listener contributions through voicemails, texts, and emails.
Jake embarks on an exploration of the greatest singer-songwriters of all time, debating the merits of icons like Bruce Springsteen and Bob Dylan. He challenges the notion that Springsteen is the ultimate singer-songwriter, arguing instead that Dylan laid the groundwork for artists like Springsteen.
Jake critiques a 2024 Melophobe list ranking the greatest singer-songwriter albums, expressing skepticism about some placements and omissions. He passionately defends Springsteen's "Nebraska" over more traditionally acclaimed Dylan works, highlighting the thematic cohesion and storytelling prowess of Springsteen's album.
The After Party transitions into a listener-driven segment where Jake reviews and discusses submissions about favorite true crime songs. Several listeners contribute their picks, each bringing a unique perspective to the discussion.
Chris from the 626 – "Suffer Little Children" by The Smiths:
"It's about Ian Brady and Myra Henley, who were a couple who were serial killers." [21:31]
John from the 203 – "The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll" by Bob Dylan:
"Great song. Sad, tragic story about that." [23:01]
Michelle from Toronto, the 416 – "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" by The Beatles:
"I remember as a kid singing my lungs out to that song without knowing it was about killing a sweet lady." [24:05]
Beth from the 360 – "Hurricane" by Bob Dylan:
"You gotta talk about the Hurricane." [24:54]
Additional Listener Highlights:
Jake engages with each submission, providing brief analyses and sharing personal anecdotes, thereby enriching the conversation with diverse viewpoints and enhancing listener involvement.
Jake previews upcoming episodes, emphasizing the depth and intensity of future content. Notably, he teases a two-part finale on Frank Sinatra, delving into Sinatra's alleged deeper ties with the Mafia than previously acknowledged.
He also mentions additional content related to Fleetwood Mac and references the Hollywoodland podcast, which covers film, movies, and true crime history, encouraging listeners to subscribe for a broader range of discussions.
In a detour from music and true crime, Jake shares a sports rant centered around the Los Angeles Lakers' infamous draft history.
He uses this anecdote to highlight the Lakers' tumultuous history, contrasting their legacy with that of the Boston Celtics, and underscores how far sports organizations have advanced in terms of awareness and information management.
Jake wraps up the episode by summarizing the key points discussed, reiterating the focus on Bruce Springsteen's "Nebraska," and reminding listeners of the upcoming episodes on Fleetwood Mac and Frank Sinatra. He encourages listeners to engage through voicemails and texts, fostering a sense of community and ongoing dialogue.
Jake emphasizes the importance of listener participation and previews the diverse range of topics that future episodes will tackle, ensuring that DISGRACELAND remains an engaging and informative hub for true crime and music history enthusiasts.
"Singer, songwriter, Solo artists who write their own songs lead their own bands. Who did it best? Was it the Boss? And the answer is hell no, it wasn't the Boss. Because Dylan did it first and arguably better." [10:45]
"Nebraska is a one man show with a tight focus on theme and character. And I can't think of a Dylan album that is presented quite like that. Plus, I just fucking love Nebraska." [15:20]
"It's about Ian Brady and Myra Henley, who were a couple who were serial killers." [21:31]
"I'm saying that he was tied in way more and more fully than we have believed. We're saying that there's so much more to that." [30:10]
"In 1969, the Los Angeles Lakers drafted a guy named Ken Spain, unaware that he was dead from a car crash weeks earlier." [33:15]
"Nobody cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do." [50:45]
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To join the conversation and contribute to future After Party episodes, listeners are encouraged to leave voicemails at 617-906-6638, send texts, or email at disgracelandpodmail.com. Engage with the DISGRACELAND community and be featured in upcoming discussions.
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