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Bonus Episode – True Crime Songs, Singer Songwriters, and the Worst Draft Pick in NBA History
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Ryan Seacrest
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Jake Brennan (Disgraceland Host)
Hey Discos, need a little more Disgrace Land in your life? Just a touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgrace Land. The afterparty.
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Voicemail Callers
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Jake Brennan (Disgraceland Host)
Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the After Party. This is the show after the show. The party after the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard to dig into the dirt on this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's full episode subject, Bruce Springsteen. We are previewing next week's Frank Sinatra Part 2 finale. We get into your voicemails, text DMs, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. All right, discos, let's get into it. So I didn't mean to feature two Whopper episodes on New Jersey musicians back to back in our feed, but that's what happened. Bruce Springsteen is back at the top of your feed this week in our Tuesday full episode slot. And next week we have Our brand new Part 2 episode on Frank Sinatra. After that, of course, we have our episodes on Bon Jovi, Frankie Valli and the four seasons in Lifetime. No, I'm kidding. Our New Jersey exploration stops next week with Sinatra Part 2. No Bon Jovi episode, no Frankie Valli episode, and definitely no Lifetime episode. Although maybe, maybe a Bon Jovi, maybe a Frankie Valley one in the future. But man, this. The point is a lot of great bands from Tony Soprano's home turf. Just Springsteen in Sinatra alone is kind of wild. And I'm tempted to ask you guys which state has given us the greatest musicians? But we talked about a version of that question recently. We also got down on the topic recently on Instagram. Anyways, which Springsteen album is the best? Which is an impossible question to answer. My answer, despite the impossibility, as I said on Instagram, has changed wildly throughout My years of boss appreciation. But weirdly, I think my answer is not Nebraska, the album that we feature in this week's full episode of Disgrace Hand. But instead I think the answer to the question of what my favorite Bruce Springsteen album is, I think it's the album that Nebraska spawned in its wake. Born in the usa an album, or at least a single in an era of Bruce Springsteen anyway, that I once despised as a kid. I did not like Bruce Springsteen growing up. It actually took Nebraska to get me into it. Actually it was. I think it was the song the river and shortly after that, Nebraska. But anyways, I don't want to ask that question here. Okay? Instead I want to talk about singer songwriters, because the Boss is definitely that and he's one of the greatest singer songwriters. But is he the best first? What do I mean when I say singer songwriter? Sinatra was a singer, but not a songwriter. So Frank's out. Mick Jagger sings and writes songs, but he fronts a band that he largely co leads with Keith Richards. So Mick's out. What about Paul McCartney? Yes, Paul is very much a singer songwriter, but he's much more than that. And I'm disqualifying Paul and John for that matter, and George and even Ringo and other post mega band artists who went on to solo careers. Instead, I'm choosing to focus on artists who broke onto the scene and spent the majority of their careers on stage in front of a microphone with an instrument in their hands belting out tunes that they themselves wrote. At times they're on stage by themselves. At times they're on stage in front of bands that they lead. Bruce Springsteen is the perfect example, but so is someone like Dave Matthews, whereas Jeff Tweedy of Wilco is not. And you know, Bob Dylan, obviously, great example. Elton John, Great example. Ryan Adams, great example. Whereas someone like Craig Finn or Frank Black, they are not great examples. Taylor Swift, Great example. Jane Wyden from the Go Go's. Despite writing a lot of those songs, not a great example. Starting to get the definition. Singer, songwriter, Solo artists who write their own songs, lead their own bands. Who did it best? Was it the Boss? And the answer is hell no, it wasn't the Boss. Because Dylan did it first and arguably better. You might like Springsteen better than Dylan, but Dylan gave Bruce the map on how to get to where he was going. Now might not have been a Texaco roadmap, but it was a guide in Springsteen is still following Dylan. Look at the recent biopics. Okay, speaking of directions and how to get from one place to another. The Dylan movie is called no Direction Home and the Springsteen movie is called Deliver Me From Nowhere. Bruce got himself lost here just like Bob did. Okay, this question is nearly impossible to answer. Who is the best singer songwriter of all time? All I know is that Bruce ain't it. But guys, I found one of my favorite things today on my way to the after party. A list. Okay. It's a little bit more dialed in, however, which I like, because it gives us some more structure to this question. The list doesn't ask who is the greatest singer songwriter of all time. It asks what is the greatest singer songwriter album of all time? Now this question, this gives me the fuel I need to contradict myself and look like a proper asshole. Because if you ask me what is the greatest singer songwriter album of all time, I might tell you. Nebraska by Bruce Springsteen. I might give you that as the answer. But you're going to say, wait, Jake, how can a Springsteen album, how can a Springsteen singer songwriter album be better than a Dylan singer songwriter album? If Dylan is, in your words, the best singer songwriter of all time, and especially if that Springsteen album isn't Born in the usa, which you just told us was your favorite Springsteen album. And my answer to you would be, I have no fucking idea. It has something to do with the fact that Born in the USA is a band album. Nebraska is a one man show with a tight focus on theme and character. And I can't think of a Dylan album that is presented quite like that. Plus, I just fucking love Nebraska. Probably more than Blonde on Blonde. But enough twisted logic, I'm giving myself a headache. Let's get into the list so we can argue with the dude who made it and not the voices in my head. All right, the list of greatest singer songwriter albums of all time comes from a 2024 melophobe. I don't know who this writer is, but I like him. And this list is solid. And more importantly, it is compelling. Number 10, blood on the tracks by Bob Dylan. This seems way too low. I don't know, you guys. Tell me. Number nine, Pink Moon by Nick Drake. Not gonna lie. Aside from maybe one other song besides the title track, I don't really know this record and now I feel stupid. So thanks. Melophobe. Number 8, Harvest by Neil Young. This seems, well, kind of Perfect. A solid 8 on this list of heavyweight singer songwriter albums. I can get with harvest at 8. I gu number 7, either or by Elliot Smith. And I gotta say, man, no, no, you got the wrong record. The right record is XO if you had XO Here by Elliot Smith. Now, can Elliot Smith have an album better than Neil Young at number eight? Hell yeah, he can. But it can't be either or. It's gotta be exo better than Bob Dylan as well. Yeah, I do believe he can. Exo Is that good. It's great start to finish. Not a single turd in the punch pole on Expo. Number six, Moondance by Van Morrison. Speaking of turds. No, I'm kidding. This album is not a tur heard, but it's not rock solid start to finish. And I'm not even sure it should be higher than Astro Weeks, which isn't even on this list. Number five, Horses by Patti Smith. The writer ranking Patti Smith higher than Van Morrison is a cheeky fuck you. And I like it. I spelled G L O R I A. I can't argue with this choice or its placement. This album rocks start to finish and it's singular in its sound and in its statement. It's great. G R E A T. It's a great record. Number four, Warren Zon. Warren Zon. Self titled. Okay. Admittedly, I don't know this record as well as some of these other records, but I have heard it and I do own it. And I know that it doesn't deserve to be this high on the list, despite it being responsible for one of the greatest Gigi Allen moments in music history. But I do think I need to revisit this because I don't quite know what the hell it is I'm talking about when I talk about this album because I've listened to it, but I've never really, really let myself get taken in by it. And I think if I did, I think if I did, maybe if I could, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe maybe I would think it deserved this high of a placement on this list. I don't know. Number three, Grace by Jeff Buckley. Hard to fuck with this record. Hard to fuck with this placement. I could say the same thing about this record that I said about Horses. Nothing like it before and no one's come close to giving us anything like it since. Number two, John Prine. John Prine. Hard for me to comment on this one because I've never been taken in by John Prine. Now I've tried, unlike with that Z von record I was talking about. And I don't think, like a lot of people do, that John Prine is the second coming of Robert Zimmerman. I don't dislike John Prine. I just don't think that he's the Bee's knees. I don't think he's better than Jeff Buckley. Now, hold on, hold on. I know John Prine has had a long, illustrious career before he passed away and Jeff Buckley basically made one record. So I get it, I get it. Come at me. I deserve it for that comment. But Grace just, it's just, it's incredible. Is John Prine. John Prine that good? I don't know. Maybe I should go look at it specifically with that intention to compare it to Grace. But let's stop talking about John Prine in the number two spot. Let's talk about the number one spot, Bob Dylan's Blonde on Blonde. Hard to argue with this one unless you want to bring other Dylan albums into the mix. Is Blonde on Blonde better than Blood on the Tracks, which was number 10 on this list? I don't know. Freewheeling? Is it better than freewheeling Bob Dylan? I don't know about that either. Maybe.
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Ryan Seacrest
Probably.
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Jake Brennan (Disgraceland Host)
Maybe. Very hard to say. Is it better than Nebraska, though? That's the question. Nebraska didn't even make the top 10. Shows you what I know. Glaring omissions from this list, by the way. Billy Joel's the Stranger, Ryan Adams is Heartbreaker, Amy Winehouse is Back to Black. But you tell me, what is the greatest singer songwriter album of all time? And hell, it doesn't even have to be the greatest. It can just be. What does that even mean, the greatest? What does that even have proven in this? That I have no idea what it means. It's just all opinions. Just let me know what singer songwriter album you love. The oh, Tapestry by Carole King. How's that not on this dude's list? Come on, let me know what you think. Singer songwriter album, which one hit you the most? 617-90-66638 Leave me a voicemail, send me a text. You might hear your answer on next week's afterparty. But before that, speaking of great albums, we have two episodes coming at you after this bonus episode here with me talking into the microphone, into your ears right now. We have two more episodes in the rewind spot that are coming up right after this. Two episodes, Part one and part two on Fleetwood Mac, the Peter Green Years and the Lindsay and Stevie Years. And you're not going to want to miss all that drama because if you do, you will never know what it's like to. Okay, next Tuesday, like I mentioned, our next full episode coming your way is our two part episode of the Frank Sinatra Story. This is one of those stories where I fully Went into the research thinking it was going to be on one thing, and I came out of the research going, nope, it's on something else. I was going to write a Frank Sinatra episode on the kidnapping of Frank Sinatra Jr. And in researching that story, I was using a book that was published in 2022, and it talks in depth about that story, but it really, really, really gets into. With. With. This is the most important part, with a bunch of new sourcing, a bunch of new government documents, federal and state, from Los Angeles, on Frank Sinatra and his mob ties throughout his career. And what I came upon in this research is that the myths, I should say plural, about Frank Sinatra and the Mafia and our general cultural understanding of Frank's relationship to the mob, to the Italian mob, what our understanding and acceptance of what that is is not true. We've bought into a false narrative. I'm not trying to make the case in this episode that he was not tied to the Mafia. In fact, just the opposite. I'm saying that he was tied in way more and more fully than we have believed. We sort of accepted this myth. The myth comes in a box, and it has boundaries, and. And it is what it is. I'm not going to burn it all here. I'm just to say that there's so much more to that. And it's not like I got this out of a book that some gossip rag written to sell off airport shelves, okay? This is written by a real law enforcement investigator with access to real sourcing that is recent, okay. And it kind of completely disrupted my understanding of who Frank Sinatra was and what he actually did for the American Mafia. And, yeah, man, I think you're really going to dig it. It's coming your way on Tuesday. And when you're listening to it and you're getting my new perspective on Frank, I want you to think about Sean Combs, and I want you to think about Tupac. Dre, I want you to think about any of the other sort of domineering personalities in rock and roll history. And I want you to answer the question of, is Frank Sinatra the most gangster musician of all time? And if he is not, in your estimation, then who is? So next week, the two questions we're going to get into in the afterparty are going to be, number one, is Frank Sinatra the most gangster musician of all time? Number two, which singer, songwriter album is your favorite? Hit Me Up. 617-906-6638 or DM me@gracelandpod or get at me on the old email box disgraceandpodmail.com youm may hear yourself in the next episode of the Afterparty coming next week. All right, I got more music coming your way. I got even a little bit of some movie talk, touch of sports as well. But more important, we have you coming up after this short break as your voicemails and texts and DMs take over the show. Foreign.
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Ryan Seacrest
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Voicemail Callers
Foreign.
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Jake Brennan (Disgraceland Host)
We are back. Apple podcast listeners. Make sure you get auto downloads turned on so you're not missing any Disgraceland episodes. All right? You're not gonna miss anything. Not gonna miss us hanging on the telephone here in the phone booth, the one across the hall. 617-906-6638. Voicemail and text. Last week's question of the week was about songs that are about murder. How that related to the Bruce Springsteen Nebraska record. Let's check in with our guy Chris.
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Voicemail Callers
Jake. Chris in the 626. I am calling in response to your question about songs about murder and true crime. I think I've mentioned this to you when we talked, but I have to give my vote to Suffer Little Children by the Smiths. It's about the Moore murders in Manchester in the early 1960s. Kind of captivated the kids and the parents at that time. It was about Ian Brady and Myra Henley, who were a couple who were serial killers and it's dark. A lot of the lines in the song come from a book called Beyond Belief. I picked up the book in New Orleans in a thrift store in the mid-90s, and it lived up to its title. So there you go, man. Big love. Rocka rolla. Stay gold, Chris.
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Jake Brennan (Disgraceland Host)
Thanks for the call, my man. I don't know that song. Thank you. Maybe I've heard it and I just never. It never hit me as a murder ballad or whatever, but when you mentioned Beyond Belief, the book. And now I'm wondering if the Elvis Costello Beyond Belief, that's an Elvis Costello song, right? Am I making that up? Am I thinking what's going on? Let me just. Yeah, Elvis Costello, Beyond Belief. Does that have to do with the same thing? I don't know, but it's making me wonder and just. Great, great voicemail, Chris. Appreciate you. Stay Gold yourself. Rocka rolla. All that jazz. What else we got? Let's check out AJ in the 203.
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Voicemail Callers
AJ this is John from the 203. I think Bob Dylan's Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll off his Times They Are a Changing Album. I believe that was 64. That's my favorite song about a murder. I mean, how often do you hear someone rhyme table with table and then again with table? So he just uses that word three times to get his rhyme. Great song. Sad, tragic story. Read about. What really happened on Wikipedia is kind of a true story, too. And it really is a great song about a tragic.
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Jake Brennan (Disgraceland Host)
Great choice. And I don't know that I've ever heard anyone else rhyme table with table or even thought of that. Someone said it was Brian Wilson. I'm researching Brian Wilson. Someone said you can't rhyme. Not someone. Brian Wilson said, you cannot rhyme anything with orange. And I don't know if that's true. Is it true? I don't know. Let's go to Michelle on the 41 6.
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Voicemail Callers
Hi, Jake, it's Michelle from Toronto, the 416. I'm calling in reverse. Last week's question. Song, song, song. The first one that came to my mind was Maxwell's Silver Hammer, because I remember as a kid singing my lungs out to that song and not, well, knowing that it was about killing some sweet lady.
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Jake Brennan (Disgraceland Host)
Michelle, amazing choice. Amazing, amazing, amazing choice. I got so into the backstory of Maxwell Silverhammer that I was like, I'm gonna do a whole scripted fictional podcast about this story because it's off the charts. And I think the way the Beatles present it, they don't really present it in a Dark way. They kind of do the opposite. I think that's very smart. Really cool. Love that song. Great choice. Let's go to beth in the three six zero.
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Voicemail Callers
Hey, Jake, this is Beth from the 360. Used to be a 206, but they added another. Whatever those things are called, prefix. Anyway, I was responding to the question about the most true crime song. And that would have to be probably the Hurricane. Bob Dylan about the boxer Reuben and Patterson, also set in New Jersey. So sorry, I'm driving a little distracted. Anyway, yeah, you gotta talk about the Hurricane. Anyway, gotta go. Don't drive and talk. All right. Bye, Beth.
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Jake Brennan (Disgraceland Host)
Be careful out there behind the wheel. Thank you. Great choice. We were talking about this the other day, Bob Dylan's Hurricane. And we're talking about the song. We're talking about doing an episode on this story. And if I'm remembering this story correctly, Bob Dylan, of course, is advocating the innocence of boxer Reuben Carter. But I believe Reuben Carter was proved guilty. Was he not? Later. Much later. Kind of like a Norman Mailer executioner song thing. Now I gotta look this up. Nope, I know not what I'm talking about. At least based on 5 seconds of research here. Google AI says here Reuben Hurricane Carter was found not guilty. He was initially convicted of a triple murder in 1967. But those convictions were overturned by a federal judge in 1985. Due to racial bias and lack of evidence. The judge determined that the prosecution had relied on an appeal to racism rather than reason. Damn. Still make for a compelling episode, I think. Especially with Dylan's interest, history and support of boxing and of boxers and as a boxer himself. Bet you didn't know that. Make for a good episode. I think it's coming. I think we're going to get into it. Part three, Bob Dylan. What do you think? I know you're saying Bob Dylan, Part three. Where's our Poison episode? And I just say to you, you know, I'm just. Yeah, maybe. I don't know.
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Jake Brennan (Disgraceland Host)
I think so. Yeah, it's coming. It's a lot of Dylan still to get into. 617-906-6638. You want to get into the voicemails and texts with me? You want to leave me an answer to any of our topics here? Any of our Questions of the week? 678 texts in. Hey, best song about murder, of course, is Murder is the Case by Snoop Dogg. Reason he was the defendant and was found not guilty. 440 writes in. Hey, did you just say Unfuck Withable? And I would answer you 440 and say yes, I did. I did. I said that. I said it. I'm not apolog. 801 writes in Nebraska by Springsteen is epic. Another favorite true crime tune is Mark Knopfler's song for Sonny Liston. He hated needles, but he knew too much suicide. Many think it was a hit job. Guys, I can't wait for you to hear the Sonny Liston episode of Sportsland. If you have not already. 617-906-6638. You want to hit me up on voicemail and text guys, you want to get at me? You send me a text, send me a voicemail and I don't answer it or play it here on the afterparty. Do not be dismayed. There is another way for you to get your voice heard. Just go over to the Hollywoodland feed in whatever podcast app you're in. Follow Hollywoodland. Listen to the wrap party. We release them every Wednesday. It's very similar to the after party, except the topic is film, movies, Hollywood and true crime history. And it's not just me behind the mic. It's me and my guy, Zeth Lundy Zest driving the show over there. Zeth and I, however, are both answering your voicemails and your texts and your DMs and your emails. So if you want another shot getting heard, that is a way to do it.
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Ryan Seacrest
All right?
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Jake Brennan (Disgraceland Host)
Go to Hollywoodland. Make sure you're subscribed. All right, listen, you guys know I'm a, I'm a sports fanatic. I'm a Boston sports fan in particular. There's not much going on in the world of Boston sports right now, but still, I, I do, I do have a sports take. Okay, because it's kind of tied to the Boston. Matt, give me a little, give me a little buzzer beater here. Let me do my 30 second sports take in under under 15 seconds or whatever the hell we're calling this segment. The Lakers, who are not the greatest franchise in NBA history. That, of course, is the Boston Celtics. The Lakers just sold for $10 billion. And it got me thinking just how batshit crazy the Lakers history has been. Despite the fact that they don't have as many championships as the Boston Celtics, nor do they have they ever had a player as good as Larry Bird. But despite all that, they do have a crazy, crazy, crazy history. Just some weird shit. And I found this. There's all kinds of stuff. Like in Hollywoodland, we talk in the Jack Nicholson episode about his love of the Lakers and how he had a clause in his contract in the 80s that prevented him from working on nights that the Lakers played at home and that that clause was even honored, which is nuts. There's all kinds of stuff that has gone on in Lakers history that's, that's really wild. But this one, I got to admit, I never heard this. And it's, it bears repeating. In 1969, the Los Angeles Lakers drafted a guy named Ken Spain. Unaware that Ken Spain was dead, they drafted a dead guy. He died in a car crash weeks earlier. Yet the Lakers didn't, didn't know and they still drafted him, which is insane. And it's totally in line with, you know, the Lakers craziness. But it was interesting to me because it just shows that was 1969. It just shows you how far we've come as a culture, as a society where of course, that would never happen. Now, the way the news travels and the way that we get our information, I just thought that to be hysterical and I just wanted a way to point out that the Lakers are not as good as the Boston Celtics. So there you have it. That's my sports rant for this week. Thanks for hanging in there with me. We will be back in just a minute.
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Ryan Seacrest
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Jake Brennan (Disgraceland Host)
All right, we are back. It's the Hollywoodland minute. This is the part of the show where I talk about our other show, Hollywoodland. All right, this week's full episode subject of Hollywoodland is on the Wonderland Murders. This story, it's mainly a John Holmes story, but the Wonderland murder story is the real story behind that scene in Boogie Nights with. What's the guy's name? Alfred Molina. He's playing that character. He's in the robe. They're trying to rob his house. You know what I'm talking about. This is the real story, the story behind that story, and it is a fascinating story in my estimation. It's a story that I don't know enough of the ins and outs about, even after we've produced this episode. And the story comes up again in the upcoming Disgraceland episode of Nikki six, which you're going to hear in a couple weeks, our part two to the Motley Crue episode. However, now in the Hollywoodland feed, you can check out this Wonderland Murders John Holmes story. And you can also hear Zeth and I in the wrap party getting down with some recommendations. Relevant to Wonderland, relevant to Hollywood, relevant to John Holmes. Matt, give a little clip. Show them what they're missing if they're not subscribed to the Hollywoodland podcast. I'm obsessed lately with with this song by another Eddie, Eddie and the Hot Rods. Do anything you want to do is the name of the song, and it is incredible. It is uplifting. It's one of those songs you put on. You're going to drive faster than you should be driving. You're going to feel good for the rest of the day. Fantastic tune. Great message as well. Eddie and the Hot Rods, are they different from Eddie and the Cruisers? Yes, much different. I remember seeing that record all the time in any record store. You go into Eddie and the Cruisers, like the. Was that a soundtrack or something? It was the movie. And Eddie and the Cruisers, the fictional band, were an actual real band. John Cafferty and the Beatles. Oh, the Beat and Brown bands. Yeah. What a name. From Philly, I believe. Don't quote me on that, because I actually don't know. I just think it's Philly. They were like a Springsteen one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. And they had real hits on the Dogs.
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Jake Brennan (Disgraceland Host)
Yeah. And they're like. That was like. You get your Bruce Springsteen at home, you know? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But Eddie and the Hot Rod, Eddie and the Hot Rods, I believe, were like a pub rock band from the late 70s in, in London. I don't know much about them. I just know they're like, you know, punk, punkish, pub, rocky type thing. This song is incredible. I don't know how I got onto it, but it's just fucking great. All right, that's Zeth and I from the wrap party guys. Again, make sure you subscribe to Hollywoodland wherever you get your podcasts. And also, you know, if you want, if you want the whole ad free thing, you know, if you've been on the fence about, you know, do I sign up? Do I become a member to become a Disgraceland member? Do I go to Disgracelandpod.com membership and fork over the five bucks per month to get ad free listening of Disgraceland, to get an extra exclusive episode of Disgraceland every single month to get more of this after party? Do I do that? Do I pay that five bucks? You might not think it's worth it. You might think, hey, five bucks is a lot of money. It is a lot of money. I understand. As a dude from New Jersey once said, I get debts no honest man can pay. Listen now, however, you're getting Hollywoodland as well, ad free, all for that same five bucks. All right, go to disgraceandpod.com membership to sign up and become a member today, just for $5. All right, we are back. And man, we mentioned a lot of musicians in this episode who we have episodes on. Jeff Buckley, Van Morrison, who else? Bob Dylan, I guess we've covered a lot of singer songwriters. Nothing on Elliott Smith, nothing on John Prine, nothing on Warren Zevon. But perhaps I have a good idea for a Warren Zevon episode. Anyways, Matt will do a full accounting of who we mentioned and he'll get the archive episodes for you in the show notes. He'll get that information episode numbers so you can easily go back and find any of those episodes you might want to listen to in our archive of over 235 episodes. All right. It's a lot. All right, let's recap. Number one, this week's episode on Bruce Springsteen in the Real Murders behind Nebraska. That's available for you right now. Check that out. Get in there. Get in there. Listen to it. Get back at me. Let me know what you think. Number two, our rewind episode on Fleetwood Mac, parts one and two is coming up next in your feed. Number three, next week on Tuesday, Frank Sinatra Part two. You're not going to want to miss that. Number four, over in the Hollywoodland feed, we got our episode on the Wonderland Murders and our latest Wrap Party bonus episodes. Those are waiting for you right now. Number four Damn it, I forgot to do the reviews again. Damn it, I got to do that next week. Leave a review for Disgrace Land or Hollywoodland. Number five Remember, no one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do. And, well, that's a disgrace. All right. In honor of this week's full episode subject, Bruce Springsteen, who released Nebraska on January 3, 1982, this is what the country was listening to according to the Billboard Hot 100 at that time. Number 1 Physical Olivia Newton John Last week 1 Weeks at number 1 Eight weeks on chart 15 Number 2 Waiting for a girl like you Foreigner Last week 2 Peak position Two weeks on chart 14 Number 3 Earth, wind and fire Last rule 3 Peak position Three weeks on chart 15 Number 4 I can't go for that. No can Do Daryl Hall John Oates Last week 4 Peak position 4 Weeks on chart 9 Number 5 Young Turks Rod the Bod Stewart Last week 5 Peak position 5. Quit talking and start mixing. Cut it.
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