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Jake Brennan
Hey, discos. Need a little more Disgrace Land in your life? Just a touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome to Disgraceland. The after party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the after party. This is the show after the show. The party. After the party. The bridge to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard. To dig into the dirt on this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's full episode subject, George Michael. We also discuss those amazing music videos that were directed by future A list filmmakers, as well as a special announcement that we get into that is going to make your ears very happy. And of course, we get into your voicemails, text DMs, emails, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie. All right, discos, let's get into it. Aerosmith, Billy Idol and George Michael. All three of those artists were part of the late 80s early 90s heavy rotation on MTV. Now if I asked you which of those artists was the more criminal minded, which of those artists was the batter of the three? Hell, Aerosmith called themselves the Bad Boys of Boston. If I asked you which of those artists were arrested the most, I doubt you'd answer George Michael. I wouldn't. Yet that's the truth. George Michael was arrested seven times in 12 years. Seven times in just 12 years. Now, Billy Idol had his fair share of run ins with the law and we're going to cover all of them in an upcoming episode on Billy Idol in about a month from now. And we of course got into all of Aerosmith's transgressions, or most of them anyway, in a previous episode of Disgraceland. But in this week's full episode, George Michael seemed just designed to get arrested. At least it seemed that way in the second half of his career. I uncovered another strange connection about George Michael, Aerosmith and Billy Idol when I was thinking about putting together this bonus episode and talking to you guys. And that connection extends to other great 80s MTV era stars. Madonna, Iggy Pop, Don Henley, Michael Jackson in the Rolling Stones. Despite all of those. Well, with the exception of Michael Jackson, despite all those artists being covered in Disgraceland, they all share something else in common with each other and with George Michael. And that's the fact that they all made great videos directed by the great David Fincher. We know David Fincher now for his incredible film Seven Fight Club, Zodiac, which is my favorite of Fincher's movies. The Social Network, the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, Gone Girl and a lot more. But we don't really think of David Fincher. At least I didn't. I'm sure some of you do because you're just more inclined to know this stuff than I am. We don't think of David Fincher as a video director yet. He directed a ton of videos in the 1980s and the 1990s. And for those artists, I just Mentioned Billy Idol's Cradle of Love, which is a great video. Aerosmith's Janey's Got a Gun, another great video. Great song too by the way. For all the shit I give Aerosmith, I love that song. Iggy Pop song Home. Madonna's Vogue. A ton of Madonna videos, but Vogue is probably her most iconic of the ones that Fincher has directed. And just too many more great videos to list. Too many, but probably none better than George Michael's Freedom 90, better known as Just Freedom. A video George Michael doesn't even appear in, but instead features five, count them, five smoking hot next level beautiful supermodels. Linda Evangelista, Christy Turlington, Naomi Campbell, Tatiana Patit. Am I saying that correctly? And probably the most beautiful woman my teenage eyes had ever seen on screen up to that point. Cindy Crawford. Now this video comes out. Of course, in an era where the supermodel is being defined, is coming into national prominence, is becoming iconic. This video exploded off of the screen. George Michael completely outdoes himself. This video is a fuck off to George Michael's record label, Sony. George was in a sort of soft war with the label and the executives over there for around his image. And the over saturation of his image to the public via the record label is just non stop promotion and the demands they put on him. And thus this video for his hit song, he refused to be in it. Which is pretty incredible. You know, major pop star, major songwriter, major performer, doesn't want to be in a major video. But the video is still a huge success. None of us cared because it had fucking Cindy Crawford in it. Not to mention Linda Evangelista and all the others I mentioned. Now knowing what I now know, it's no surprise to me that this video succeeded without featuring George Michael. And it's not just because of the supermodel hotness that I was just joking about. It's also because we now know that David Fincher, who directed Freedom, is a genius behind the camera that wasn't, you know, he was known as a music video during that music video director during that time. But yeah, I mean there's, there's quite a difference between directing great videos and great movies. It's a huge difference. And we got into what it takes to make a movie in the Scorsese episode a couple, couple episodes ago. So this got me thinking about what other now famous directors directed huge music videos from back in the day. And I looked into it. It's a pretty incredible list. I kind of always, I got this is always in the back of My mind, but I never fully looked into it. And again, when I was watching these videos as a kid, when most of us were, I didn't care who directed them. I had no concept of that sort of thing. So for now, to me, it's completely compelling. So anyways, in addition to David Fincher, you, of course, the obvious one, you have Spike Jones, director of the films, being John Malkovich and her with Joaquin Phoenix. Spike, however, famously directed those incredible Beastie Boys videos from the 1990s, sabotage and sure Shot. But also videos for Weezer, the Breeders. His Fat Boy Slim video is incredible. And there's a ton of others by Spike Jonze. Zack Snyder, okay, massive director who recently helmed the DC Comics Batman franchise way back in the day, directed Soul Asylum, Somebody to Shove Video, which is a great song. He's directed others as well, but none worth mentioning from my estimation. In that Soul Asylum video. Brian De Palma, one of the greatest directors to come out of the 1970s, would later direct a Bruce Springsteen video, and a pretty iconic one, Bruce's Dancing in the Dark, featuring an unknown actress at the time by the name of Courtney Cox. A guy named Gore Verbinski, the dude who directed the massively successful Pirates of the Caribbean, also directed the Ring, the American version of the Ring. He directed Gore. He directed Bad Religion videos back in the day along with some others. He was even in a band with Brett from Bad Religion for a moment. Michael Bay, okay, this is the guy. If you don't know Michael Bay. He's got. Makes huge, huge action movies. Transformers being, I think, the. The top of his IMDb. Michael Bay got his start on MTV making videos from Meatloaf. Brittany Fox, if you remember, Brittney Fox. Hair metal, which just kind of makes sense. I don't care about Transformers and I didn't care about Britney Fox. Finally, we got to mention Brett Ratner, who, before being canceled, made massive Hollywood films like Rush Hour and X Men. He of course, got to start directing music videos. Hip hop videos, Public Enemy, Wu Tang, Diddy, Michael Jackson as well, a ton of others. I think he even did a Madonna video, A Love Courtney Love video, a whole video, or maybe a Courtney Love solo, I can't remember. Anyways, I found this all to be super interesting. And I'm talking about it here this week specifically for this reason that I'm going to get into here. I'm of course interested in the history of Hollywood, just as I'm interested in music. I'm especially interested in the intersection of Hollywood and true crime, just as I'm interested in the intersection of music history and true crime. Which is why a couple years ago I launched a show called Badlands. Now, Badlands looked into the crimes of actors and actresses. For the most part, we did do some episodes that looked into the crimes committed by famous athletes. Badlands was supposed to be a fictional place like Disgraceland for us to discuss any non music related true crimes. But what we ended up doing is focusing mostly on Hollywood and again some on sports. Now, hosting that show, hosting Badlands and Disgraceland, it became too much for me to do. Pumping out new episodes every week, doing these bonus episodes for two podcasts, and growing both the shows plus everything else I got going on. It was just a lot in Badlands was being neglected. So we stopped producing new Badlands episodes. Anyways, what happened to those episodes? Those episodes went away, okay? They went out of the feed. They're gone. I get asked all the time from you guys, hey, where'd the Badlands episodes go? Well, we pulled them down for reasons that I'm not gonna get into here, but basically we stopped producing episodes of the show, new episodes, and we didn't have any plan at that time to start producing new ones. So that's one of the reasons. Having that archive of almost 100 plus episodes on on Hollywood actors and actresses having those Badlands episodes up, it didn't make sense. We took them down and for some other reasons. Again, not going to go into those here, but I am here to tell you right now that a large swath of those Badlands episodes are coming back and they are available for you to listen to right now in the same Badlands feed, but now titled simply Hollywoodland. Okay? In the Hollywoodland feed right now, you'll be able to hear me talking about the wild lives and true crimes of people like James Dean, Charlie Sheen, Sean Penn, Drew Barrymore, Danny Trejo, Patty Hearst, Mel Gibson, so many more. And all these Hollywoodland episodes are produced by Double Elvis in the exact same way as Disgraceland. If you're new to Disgraceland, if you've joined this Disgraceland community in the last year or so, these Hollywoodland episodes are produced exactly like Disgraceland. Me at the helm on the mic, Double Elvis production, all the sound design, all the edge of your seat storytelling you've grown to love, it's all in Hollywoodland. It's just a different subject, okay? It's just, it's just Hollywood and not music. And right now there's almost 40 episodes available for you to listen to. Like I said, in the Hollywoodland feed, formerly Badlands feed right now. And every week we're going to drop another episode from the archive. Episodes on David Lynch, Bruce Lee, John Waters, John Belushi, Lindsay Lohan, Robert Downey Jr. So many others, all of them, they're all going to be released in the Hollywoodland feed until eventually nearly all of the hundred previously titled Badlands episodes will be available as Hollywoodland. You're going to get another episode every week right now. There's a ton of them available for you. There's like 40 or so available for you to binge. And every week for the rest of the year you're going to get another episode in the feed until eventually we begin releasing new episodes of Hollywoodland, but with a slight modification, more on that in the future. But for now, all you got to know is at beginning this week right now, you can listen to a whole bunch of archive episodes of Badlands now titled Hollywoodland. And then in two weeks time, after you've had some time to binge those Hollywoodland episodes, we will begin dropping other Hollywoodland episodes in the feed once a week for you to listen to. I'm going to be talking about them here in the afterparty and do a little Hollywoodland segment for you. I'm looking at this whole thing is like a video archive of sorts. You know, like a 1980s sort of like cable access TV show where some dude has a bunch of VHS is stacked up in his, in his basement and he goes in there and he pulls out one story per week and he, and he talks to his community about them and he tees up that story. That's, that's how I'm going to be approaching this in these Hollywoodland episodes here in the afterparty. I'll be highlighting one per week and we can talk about them if you want here on social media or wherever. And they'll be there for you as we unleash, unleash this entire archive for you, make it all available and then get into producing new episodes of Hollywoodland. And then eventually our sports episodes that were previously produced and released into the Badlands moniker will eventually be released in their own Sportsland feed. And in a couple weeks, our Icon series that we've been doing for the last year, as I mentioned before, will end in the Disgraceland feed and Disgraceland will once again be solely music subjects. So to hear me tell stories about music and true crime, follow Disgraceland. If you're not already, get in here. Follow Disgraceland. To hear me tell stories about Hollywood and true crime, follow Hollywoodland. And to hear me tell stories about sports and true crime. Keep an eye out for Sportsland. But right now, and I mean right now, pick up your phone and go into whatever podcast player you're currently listening to this episode in and search Hollywoodland. Then hit that Follow or Subscribe button. Turn on all auto downloads if you're an Apple podcast listener. And now, after you're done listening to this after party, you'll have 40 or so Hollywoodland episodes to binge, and you'll be primed for the David lynch one coming your way, along with others every week beginning March 31st and every Monday after that. All right, announcement complete. Back to Disgraceland. Here in Disgraceland, we've got a rewind episode coming up right after this on Sam Cook. And next week, we have an Alice in Chains episode for you. Okay, when you're listening to the Alice in Chains episode, I want you guys to be thinking about your record collection. And which Seattle artists, which grunge artists do you find yourself listening to the most? Now, I know we all love Alice in Chains. We all love Nirvana. We all love Pearl Jam. I'll say it. I love Pearl Jam. I don't know why I have a hard time admitting that. I don't know. Maybe because my wife hates them and she gives me so much shit. I love Soundgarden, Melvins, Mud Honey. So many great Seattle bands. Anyhow, of those great Seattle artists, songwriters. Now think of your record collection. Which one do you go to the most? Are you more of a Pearl Jam person? Are you more of a Soundgarden person? Are you more of an Alice in Chains person? Nirvana. Who. Who are you still listening to? I, for one, probably think Nirvana is the most important Seattle band to come out of that area, out of the grunge era. Kurt Cobain was obviously an incredible songwriter for some reason. However, even though I give them more importance historically than any of these other artists, and they're sort of bigger in my head, Nirvana is and Kurt is. As a songwriter, I don't listen to them nearly as much as I listen to Soundgarden. For me, of all these artists, it's Soundgarden that I listen to the most. And just by the way, side note, I saw a little clip of the Melvins on X the other night playing a Black sabbath song from 1994, and it just remind. Reminded me of how incredible that band is. Anyhow, I want to know which Seattle band. That's going to be the question of the week next. Next week. Which Seattle band do you go back to? And listen to the most still to to now to right now. Okay, we had a great caller a couple weeks ago talking about she's from Seattle. Talking about how the Seattle artist didn't speak to her at all. She. She was listening to you too back in the day. I thought that was fantastic. But the question of the week, when you get that Alice in Chains episode coming your way is going to be which Seattle artist do you find yourself still listening to the most of all? Is it all right, I'll take a quick break. Back in a flash.
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Hey Disco's. If you want more Disgraceland, be sure to listen every Thursday to our weekly After Party Bonus episode where we dig deeper into the stories we tell in our full weekly episodes. In these After Party Bonus episodes, we dive into your voicemails and texts, emails and DMs and discuss your thoughts on the wild lives and behavior of the artists and entertainers that we're all obsessed with. So leave me a message at 617-906-6638, disgracelandpodmail.com or disgracelandpod on the socials and join the conversation every Thursday in our After Party Bonus episode.
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All right, we are back. And just a quick reminder to make sure you Apple podcast listeners have auto downloads turned on so you're not missing any episodes. All right, 617-90-666638 to leave me a voicemail or send me a text or DM me at disgracelandpod last week, the question of the week was in anticipation of this George Michael episode that we were releasing, we asked which of those 80s MTV icons resonated with you the most? Which did you like the most? Which hit you the most as A kid. And let's listen to this voicemail from Johnny in the 617.
Johnny Vinyl
Hey, what's up, Jake? Johnny Vinyl here. Responding to my favorite video stars of the early 80s MTV era. Easily Duran Duran. Their first album, they had those like, you know, weird, dark, gloomy videos. Except for Girls on Film, which was very sexual. So sexual in fact, that it actually got banned from MTV and replaced by another video, another version that was much lighter. And then of course them having the three big hits off of the Rio album, which is Rio Save Like a Prayer and Hungry like the Wolf. All filmed in Sri Lanka on the really, really hot, you know, the hot. The hot surface of the sand. And all the guys were, you know, getting close to having heat stroke and whatnot. Made those incredible videos. And then of course the next album, Seven and the Ragged Tiger, very James Bond vibe videos. They were very good at being thematic with their videos, depending upon which album. But yes, definitely Duran Duran in the early 80s. That's my. Take it easy, buddy.
Jake Brennan
Johnny, it's funny you mentioned Duran Duran for two reasons. One, I was watching White Lotus last night. I noticed that there's a actress on White Lotus named Charlen Lebon. And I said to myself, I wonder if that's Simon Le Bon's daughter. How many labans are there? I've never heard of a Le Bon besides Simon Le Bon. And I completely forgot about it until got into recording this, this episode this morning, which I'm recording early because I'm traveling to New York this week. But anyhow, Duran Duran. What I gotta say, probably, yeah, for me, definitely one of the first. I actually bought Rio on vinyl as a little kid. I was so into those videos, they freaked me out. Something about the animalism of it all. The rock and roll animal thing. Maybe that's it. But yeah, I hear you. Duran Duran. And now that I'm older, I was into them as a kid, like a real little kid and then just completely never gave them any thought as an adolescent or a young adult. But when I hear Duran Duran song now, man, I bump that shit. I love it. Those classic 80s Duran Duran songs are fantastic. And I think there's actually great Duran Duran Disgraceland episode somewhere. So somewhere to be told at some point. So, Johnny, appreciate you. Let's check in with Heidi in the 838.
Heidi
Hey Jay, it's Heidi Philadelphia. I was just listening to your, your bonus episodes and you mentioned about the 80s favorite. I have to say, Cindy Offer, she is still one of my all time favorites. She was the real fantastic Then, and she's fantastic now. She even doesn't do it with Henry Rollins. It's beautiful. So, yeah, just wanted to leave that message and have a great day. Rocka Rolla.
Jake Brennan
Okay. Cyndi Lauper and Henry Rollins. Thank you for reminding me of that. Also. Cyndi Lauper, of course. I mean, you. You just mentioned 80s MTV, and she's probably the first one that. That springs to mind. Cyndi Lauper, of course, known as the mainstream pop video artist. Was. But, you know, she came from New York. She came sort of from that punk scene, that avant garde scene in New York in the early 80s, late 70s, early 80s. Her covering rise above by Black Flag with Henry Rollins is surprising on the surface, but not if you know the history of Cyndi Lauper. We get into Cyndi Lauper a little bit in our Cramps episode. You guys should check that out. If you haven't. I just want to say I've been seeing these Henry Rollins clips, interview clips from the 90s pop up in my feeds. And there's one. I think I might have mentioned this before. There's one with Kennedy from the 90s. And the sexual tension between Henry Rollins and Kennedy is. Is. You can. You can see it, you can feel it. It is so prevalent. There's no way they didn't have sex. After watching this. This interview, you're just like, wow, they fucked. It's incredible. I just sort of like filed that away as, wow, that was interesting. You'd probably never see that nowadays. Then the other day, another interview came up. I'm not sure if it was mtv. It looked like an MTV set. It was definitely from the 90s. It's Henry Rollins talking largely about Green Day and their massive success at the time. It's right around the time of their first album. When was that? 94, 93, something like that. Their first major label album. And that's what the interview's about. I don't recognize the interviewers, but that doesn't mean it's not mtv. It could be, like, much music or something. I'm not sure. Anyhow, they talk about the artist, they talk about, like, young pop starlets, and they talk about Brandy, and someone mentions that she's too young. And Henry Rollins almost says she's not too young. For me, it's really, really, like, on the Edge. It's really. It's really something. And if you know Rollins, he's super charismatic in these interviews, and you can tell he's relishing in just how the interview's going and the hold he has on the folks who are interviewing him. And almost that feeling of like he can say anything, you know, like it's just the chemistry between the interviewer and the interviewee is so there. It's like just boom, boom, boom, snapping. Now, I don't mean to insinuate that Rollins was suggesting that, that he likes sex with underage girls or anything like that. I think his wit perhaps, and his quickness, verbal quickness, was getting ahead of his brain. My point however, is that that would never happen today. It would never fly today, of course, and for good reason. But it was just interesting to see how dated the 90s now are becoming. It was really interesting. Check that interview out if you can. Or just, I don't know, Google Rollins and and comments on Green Day. Maybe that interview will come up. I love Rollins by the way. I'm not judging Rollins, I'm just saying I'm judging the time more than anything else. Anyhow, didn't mean to go down that Henry Rollins tangent there. Thanks Heidi. Appreciate you. Play the 41 0, Matt. Let's listen to this this one on YouTube.
Craig
Hey Jake, it's Craig from Baltimore. My favorite Irish band. Has to be YouTube is my first formal concert experience. August 16, 199116 year old kid in the middle of field at RFK Stadium. Imagine getting to see you too. The hype probably their popularity touring the Zoo TV tour after their Octagon Baby album which was kind of their experimental album but it really grew in me and I was a 16 year old kid in the crowd of 50,000 people on the field at RFK Stadium so couldn't start off with a better show than that. Finlizzy has grown on me though because my favorite current band the Hold Steady plays them as their walkout song Boys are back in Town or Jailbreak for their massive nights Brooklyn residencies they do every year. So great show. Love it. Thanks a lot.
Jake Brennan
410 thanks for the message. Thanks for the voicemail, Craig. Of course we're playing this one to you guys because we just like I think I mentioned earlier in this episode, we had a rewind episode recently on YouTube. If you haven't heard it, go check that out. Craig. Seeing you two in 91, my God, that's. That's huge. There's a lot of great eras to see you two in. You know you could earlier they did that club run in the beginning. We were all too young for that. But seeing them in 91 would be that's prime era. Like you said with Zoo Zoo Tour which I didn't love. I didn't love that sort of imagery and all that octung baby. Of course I love it all more now that seems to be a familiar theme. I think I'm mentioning that almost every every episode now of how I I like things I used to dislike. But yeah, at RFK Stadium as well. Amazing. And I love the Hold Steady Thin Lizzie connection as well. Very cool. All right guys, you want to leave me a voicemail? You want to send me a text on anything? Question of the Week Next week is going to be on your favorite Seattle grunge songwriter artist. 617-906-6638 that's how you text me as well. Let's do some text right now. This one comes from the 614 hey Jake, Sammy from the 614. Huge fan of the podcast. Have been listening for years. In light of the holiday weekend he' referencing St. Patrick's Day one of my favorite bands from Ireland is Gaelic Storm from Galway. They're a fun combination of traditional fiddle pub tunes and modern esque pop and they come every year to our Irish festival in August. Fortunately, unfortunately they are getting so popular it's hard to get close to the tent to see them, so I try to catch their shows at the Newport whenever they are in town. Again, love the show and can't wait to hear what stories you have in store for the loyal fans. Thanks for everything Rocka Rolla. That's from the 614. All right, I gotta check out Gaelic Storm. I love that. I love when I get a recommendation I have no idea about. And that's I've never heard of Gaelic Storm. I'm stoked to hear it. 304 writes in hey, requesting a Hazel Atkins episode. Crazy stories. There you are. Requesting 304 and you shall receive. We will do a Hazel Atkins episode at some point, I promise you. 253 writes in Old Mandez from Washington State. My favorite Irish band, House of Pain. Jump around baby. Yes, I realize they aren't a rock band, but an influential group nonetheless. They are not a rock band man. They are influential and they are Irish though they're not from Ireland. I don't believe. Unless I'm missing something and I don't know much about House of Pain. Saw him on that first tour though with Rage against the Machine opening up. How about that? At the ICA in Boston. Tiny little place. It's awesome. 573 writes in some kind words. Thank you. 573 I'm blushing so I'm not going to Read your text, but I appreciate it. 617-906-6638 if you want to leave me a voicemail, you can DM me as well at DisgraceLandPod on X on Instag On Facebook, Miranda G. Gilliam writes in Pussy Riot. You need to do an episode on Pussy Riot. They dared to stand up to Putin and they lost. Yet they have stories to tell about prisons, rebellion and female advocacy and the spirit of rock and roll rebellion. They definitely check that metaphorical box. Just a thought. Love the podcast, Miranda. Love your suggestion. We'll do an episode on Pussy Riot at some point. Linda Nolan writes in a little note that I should be reading the Rick Rubin book and that he narrates it on Spotify. And I haven't read this book yet and I need to I, I, I think I own it. I think someone gave it to me. I think it's in a box of books that I haven't unpacked yet. And I'm also fascinated by Rick Rubin. Sort of every time a quote of his flashes across the feed, I'm interested in what that guy's got to say. So thank you Linda, for reminding me that over on Facebook. And I apologize in advance if I mess up the pronunciation of this last name. Anthony. I don't know Anthony. I'm sorry, but Anthony writes an Irish blues Man, rocker, unsung 70s guitar God, Rory Gallagher from Anthony D in Cambridge. You know, I gotta admit, I got a blind spot. I got blind ears when it comes to Rory Gallagher and I gotta get into it. Where do I start? Anthony, hit me back. Give me a good recommendation, a place to start with Rory Gallagher. Okay, I want to know. Derek Sterk. Derek Sturkey on Facebook writes, hey Jake, caught the comments about Peter Frampton playing for David Bowie. I didn't realize that it was not general knowledge. I saw the LA stop on Glass Spiders tour and was thrilled to see Frampton alongside Bowie. Here's one Light article on the tour. Thanks Derek. Appreciate that. We were talking about that a couple episodes back. You guys don't miss anything. I like that about you. Among many other things, this is something that caught my eye on X from Hair Metal Messiah. It has nothing to do with Disgraceland other than the fact that we talked about this, that we didn't have episode on this artist. And I just want to read this. It's from last week and it says it's about acdc and it sums up ACDC in a way that I wish I had summed this up in my episode again this is from hair metal messiah. ACDC's highway to Hell isn't just an album. It's a goddamn prophecy. In 1979, while the rest of the world was fumbling around with disco and soft rock, these maniacs were writing the blueprint for every hard rock and metal band today. Bon Scott sounds like he gargled glass, lit a cigarette, and chased it with a warm six pack while Angus Young shreds beating around the bush and walk all over you like a possessed madman cranking out riffs Hotter than hell itself, Every song is a fist to the face, a boot to the teeth, and a middle finger to convention. This record was decades ahead of its time. And if you don't feel it, go buy a Bee Gees album, light a lavender candle, and cry yourself to sleep. You know, aside from all the sort of, like, tough guy boasting in that tweet, the thing that I like about it is that it talks about highway to Hell in its place in time. And it's true, it was ahead of its time. And I don't think of it that way because highway to Hell had become. It's so huge. It's such a huge classic rock song now. And I also don't think of that album as the great banger that it is, where they're like the person who tweeted that says there's not a bad song on it. Every song on that album just crushes it. And yeah, I just, I saw that. I thought it was interesting. I wanted to read it to you guys. And again, we got that ACDC episode in our archive if you are interested. All right, I'm gonna take a quick break. I'll be back in a flash. You guys. You can hit me up, you can text me, you can, you can send me a voicemail. 617-90-66638. You can direct message me at Disgracelandpod on Instagram x or Facebook. Back in Flash Today at T Mobile, I'm joined by a special co anchor.
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All right, we are back at Disgraceland pod on the DM 617-906-6638 voicemail next reminding you guys. Search out Hollywoodland in your podcast player, follow that podcast and start binging. Our Hollywoodland podcast hosted by me, produced by Double Elvis. We're getting our whole archive out there for you. You can email me disgracelandpodmail.com and let me know what you think of those episodes. Or you can email me and talk about whatever else you want to talk about. This Rory Gallagher thing is really, really picked up. Got a lot of emails on it got a lot of DMs. Greg Plass writes in hey Jake, Fantastic show. Greg Plass also answers the question I asked in the Last Block. My number one Irish musician is Rory Gallagher, possibly my favorite guitar player of all time, depending on what mood I'm in that day. Irish tour 74 well, I'm Irish and 74 was a damn good year. If you're Me is an absolute classic. Keep up the great work, my friend. Greg. Greg. I appreciate it, Greg. I'm gonna I'm gonna bump that today when I'm working out. I'm gonna go for Irish tourist 74 Rory Gallagher discretesandpodmail.com you guys want to get in touch about any Knox Bronson writes in hey, loved your episode on Zeppelin, especially the part about David Bowie. I didn't realize that White Stains was an Aleister Crowley book as Name checked in Station to station. In a 1975 interview, Bowie said something to the effect of I'm not evil. Alice Cooper isn't evil, Lou isn't evil, but there are evil bands. Just look at Led Zeppelin. This is a fascinating topic to me. Thank you. Knox Bronson. David Bowie's fear of Jimmy Page and the power, the dark evil power that he felt that Led Zeppelin possessed. That story never gets old to me and not a lot has been has been has been said about it. Not enough, I should say, has been said about it. I certainly said my piece, but I wasn't there. I can only say what others have said and I can only contextualize it in the larger story as I see it now. I did not see any of this evil evident in the recent Led Zeppelin documentary, which I loved, but which, you know, I think I mentioned here. I did have my. I did have issues with it. I wanted it to be so much more and this was not represented in any way. And I don't mean I get why Jimmy Page doesn't want people talking about him and Alistair Crowley living in his house and the Black Dog and all that stuff. We're doing cocaine and scaring the shit out of Jimmy Page. But you know, we're completely missing the point of Led Zeppelin. If we gloss past the the part of their history that is that darkness and what it represented and how somebody like David Bowie was legitimately scared of Jimmy Page. Fascinating stuff. Thank you Knox Bronson for reminding me of that. Disgracelandpodgmail.com this one comes from Shane Schmidt Subject we need the anti flag story message. I'm a longtime listener and a huge fan of the show and up until now I never really had a reason to write in. Much like Jake, I'm an old punk from the 90s with a true love for all forms of music and am fascinated by its history, as ugly as the stories may be at times. So imagine the surprise I felt a few weeks ago when I was reading up on one of my favorite bands and discovered they had broken up due to the horrible actions of and allegations against Justin Sane and to a lesser degree, his band Anti Flag, a band whose genre is meant to be a safe haven and who always claimed to stand for equality, human rights, and claim to be feminists forced to disband and see their frontman flee the country due to allegations of sexual assault, grooming and statutory rape. Now that's a true disgrace and we need this story to be told. Anyways, please keep up the great work and forgive my rambling. I do that when I'm nervous. Thank you, Shane Schmidt Shane, you know, this story crossed my view and I thought about it and I'm still thinking about it and I looked into it a teensy, teensy bit. I'll look into it more, but my first inclination is that this story hasn't yet resolved. There's still more to come out. It's tough for me to get into the middle of an ongoing story as I'm experiencing now with this whole Diddy thing, which has turned out to be a huge pain in my ass, if I'm being perfectly honest with you. Trying to keep up with everything that's all the truth, truth, all the conjecture, the transgressions that are real, the transgressions that are fiction. I can't wait for this Diddy trial to actually start so there can be a punctuation point at the end of this story and I can cover it for in some finality and tell you exactly what happened and all the drama behind it. Anti Flag, I feel like it's not completely told yet, but I will get into it once I feel like more of the story has settled. I promise you that. Thisgraceandpodmail.com if you guys have any other suggestions on stories or just want to rant about anything else, Dane Zerbe writes in from last week. Hey Jake, longtime listener, I thoroughly enjoyed your Badlands feed. Is there a way that I can access all of the episodes? Listen, Dan, listen. Yes, there is a way. Go to your podcast player right now, Dan, and search Hollywoodland, okay? And you're gonna get, I believe it's 39, perhaps 40 episodes of Hollywoodland, which were formerly Badlands episodes right there. You can access them, you can check them out, and then make sure you're following Hollywoodland. And every week, okay, you're gonna get a new. A new piece of Hollywoodland content, a new episode from that archive. And eventually, eventually, Dan, you will get new Hollywoodland episodes, okay? That goes for everybody. Search and follow Hollywoodland. And, you know, leave a review for the show as well. If you like it, if you like what you're hearing, leave a review for Hollywoodland, okay? Let the people know. Help us out with the discovery just like you do with Disgraceland. It's important. It's why I talk about it every single week. It's why I feature one reviewer of Disgraceland. I read your review here on the show and if you hear me read your review and you hit me up disgracelandpodmail.com or you hit me up on the socials, you hit me up anywhere. Get in touch. I'll get your address from you and I'll send you some free merch. This one comes from Molite sound. Thin Lizzy Ultra 5 stars. Thin Lizzy Episode is everything that is great about Disgraceland. Everything that is great about rock and rol. The kids know it's dangerous. Ha. We always knew. Great show, amigo. You got it. Molight sound. Molight sound. Get in touch. We'll get you some free merch. I'm going to read this other one here, too. One is not Enough. That's. I'm not making this shit up. That's what the title of this. Of this review is. One is not enough. Five stars. Jake Mama 94 from the 225. My husband and I love your show. We could listen to you all day. And some days I do just that. I tell everyone about the super cat with all the tea. I like to let a few of these episodes pile up and then listen. Because one is not enough. Well, listen, Mama 94, I may have read this review before, but Mama 94, listen, I'm reading it again because we have a whole bunch of episodes who that have piled up now in the Hollywood Land feed. And those are for you to listen to. All right? Over on Spotify, Troy Tripp. This is not a review, but it's a comment. And I like it because I don't understand it. And I'm going to read it anyways. Troy Tripp writes in in response to the din Lizzy episode. St. Patty's Day episode. More like an April Fool's Day episode. We all know Jake Hay hates Thin Lizzy. I don't Hate Thin Lizzy. Never hated Thin Lizzy. Love Thin Lizzy pretty much. I've always loved Thin Lizzy. I don't. I still to this day don't know where this notion comes from, from you guys that I dislike Thin Lizzy. I thought producing this episode on Thin Lizzy will put that to bed, but it has not. Talk about misinformation. Talk about conspiracy theories. Sheesh. All right. You know it's not a conspiracy. You know it's not misinformation. The fact that this episode is unfortunately nearing its end, but the after party continues for you guys. If you're an All Access member, you're gonna get more. You're gonna get a little bit more of this bonus episode just for you. You're also gonna get ad free listening. We're selling a lot of ads lately. Just telling you. A lot of ads. We're selling a lot of ads. You're gonna get ad free listening. If you sign up to become an All Access member, it's only five bucks a month and you're going to get an extra episode like the Stevie Ray Vaughan episode that we just released. Get a Slipknot episode coming up this month, you're going to get those extra episodes in your all access feed. Go to Disgracelandpod.com membership to become an All Access member today. And like I said, it's just $5 a month. $5 a month. That's it. Ad free listening. Damn right. Extra episode. It's pretty good. Disgracelandpod.com membership all right, we are back. I didn't really mention YouTube that much in this episode. We did have a rewind episode on YouTube. A lot of great comments from you guys. Really appreciate it. Thank you for reaching out. As always. We discussed a ton of artists in this bonus episode who are featured in archives episodes of Disgraceland, ac, dc, David Bowie, Arrowsmith, Madonna, Beastie Boys, Wu Tang. We did a whole season on Wu Tang. Matt will have episode information in the show notes of this bonus episode. If you guys want to seek out any of those subjects who are in our archive, we have over, I think, 225 plus episodes right now. If you're new to the show, I'm telling you, man, lots of episodes in the archive. Get in there. Get listening. Hit me up. 617-90-66638 voicemail. Text Disgracelandpod on gracelandpodmail.com on email. Let me know what you think of these archive episodes. And guys, as always, I want your requests, I want your suggestions, I want your recommendations on the subjects I should be covering. Okay. All right, let's recap. Number one, Badlands is now Hollywoodland. And archive episodes on the subject of Hollywood and true crime are now available in the Hollywoodland feed. Search and follow Hollywoodland on the Odyssey app or wherever you listen to podcasts, Iheart, Apple podcasts, Spotify. Please just search Hollywoodland, give it a follow and get a binging. Number two right now in your Disgraceland episode, our new episode on George Michael. Number three. Coming tomorrow, our rewind episode on Sam Cooke. And number four, merch. Winners. Get in touch. You know who you are. Number five. Remember, no one cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll more than you do. And, well, that's a disgrace. All right. In honor of this week's subject, George Michael, I give to you the Billboard charts From Christmas Day 2016, the day the Greek God of careless whispers passed away. Number one one black beatles ray sremov featuring gucci mane. Last week one peak position one weeks on chart 13. Number two starboy the weekend featuring daft punk. Last week two peak position two weeks on chart 12. Number three closer the chain smokers featuring halsey. Last week three peak position one weeks on chart 19. Number four 24k magic bruno mars. Last week five peak position four weeks on chart 9. Number five side to side ariana grande featuring nicki minaj. Last week four peak position four weeks on chart 15. Number six juju on that beat.
Johnny Vinyl
Quit talking and start mixing.
Jake Brennan
Cut it.
DISGRACELAND: Bonus Episode - Video Directors, MTV Stars, and Big News From Hollywood
Release Date: March 20, 2025
Host: Double Elvis Productions
In this engaging bonus episode of DISGRACELAND, hosted by Jake Brennan, listeners are treated to an insightful exploration of the intricate relationship between iconic music artists and renowned film directors from the MTV era. Additionally, significant announcements regarding the podcast’s archival content and future directions are unveiled, making this episode a must-listen for both long-time fans and newcomers.
Jake delves into the tumultuous later years of George Michael's career, highlighting his notable seven arrests over twelve years. This discussion places Michael alongside other MTV heavyweights like Aerosmith and Billy Idol, emphasizing the prevalence of legal issues among these stars.
Jake Brennan (00:17): “George Michael seemed just designed to get arrested. At least it seemed that way in the second half of his career.”
Jake Brennan (01:37): “George Michael was arrested seven times in just 12 years.”
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to uncovering the unexpected links between famous music video directors and their transition to acclaimed film directors. David Fincher's pivotal role is highlighted, detailing his direction of seminal music videos for artists like Billy Idol, Aerosmith, Madonna, and more.
Notable music videos discussed include:
Jake announces the transformation of their previous podcast segment, Badlands, into Hollywoodland, which will now focus exclusively on true crime stories related to Hollywood actors and actresses. This shift allows DISGRACELAND to streamline their content, dedicating Hollywoodland to Hollywood-centric true crime narratives while maintaining DISGRACELAND for music-related true crime.
Listeners are encouraged to follow the new Hollywoodland feed to access nearly 40 archived episodes immediately, with weekly releases continuing for the rest of the year.
The episode features an array of listener messages, providing personal anecdotes and reviews:
Johnny Vinyl (20:47) praises Duran Duran, recounting their impactful MTV-era music videos and live performances.
“Duran Duran in the early 80s. Definitely. ... The music videos freaked me out. Something about the animalism of it all.”
Heidi from Philadelphia (23:08) shares her admiration for Cyndi Lauper and references Henry Rollins.
“Cyndi Lauper, she is still one of my all-time favorites. ... Cyndi Lauper and Henry Rollins.”
Craig from Baltimore (27:05) reminisces about seeing U2 live in 1991, highlighting the band's evolution and iconic performances.
“16-year-old kid in the middle of the field at RFK Stadium ... I love Thin Lizzy pretty much.”
Jake responds personally to each message, illustrating his deep connection with the listener community and his passion for music history.
Jake Brennan (01:17): “Groons can help you create lasting habits that are going to set you up for success and keep you healthy.”
Jake Brennan (14:22): “Cyndi Lauper, known as the mainstream pop video artist, came from that punk scene in New York in the early 80s.”
Jake Brennan (34:41): Introduced a special co-anchor segment with Snoop Dogg, promoting T-Mobile deals.
Hollywoodland Launch: Transition of Badlands to Hollywoodland, with immediate access to archived episodes and ongoing weekly releases.
Merchandise and All Access Membership: Encouragement for listeners to join the All Access membership for ad-free listening, exclusive content, and free merchandise.
“If you sign up to become an All Access member, it's only five bucks a month and you're going to get an extra episode like the Stevie Ray Vaughan episode that we just released.”
Upcoming Episodes:
Jake wraps up the episode by reinforcing the significance of Hollywoodland and DISGRACELAND in preserving the intertwined histories of music, Hollywood, and true crime. He expresses excitement about the upcoming content and invites listeners to stay engaged through voicemails, texts, and social media interactions.
This bonus episode not only enriches the listener's understanding of the dark intersections in entertainment history but also strengthens the community through interactive segments and future content planning.
Stay tuned to DISGRACELAND for more gripping true stories from the dark side of entertainment history. Follow us on your preferred podcast platform and join the conversation today!